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Do What You Can January 27, 2026

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Shawn and Jody had the wonderful Jared Rizzi on the show...and well, Jody and Jared got on Shawn's case about stuff...take a listen!!



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[SPEAKER_10]: It's political Pinky, redical Pinky, redical Pinky, redical Wherever you are The politics bar Shotsmith, Pearson, Jody Hamilton

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look, look, look, I have no problem with people who have some some height issues like that. [SPEAKER_03]: I have not currently, but I did use to have a friend who is a little person. [SPEAKER_03]: I got no problem with that. [SPEAKER_03]: Hight does not necessarily determine if you are a small person. [SPEAKER_03]: True. [SPEAKER_03]: But Greg Livino is definitely a small person. [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, we weren't going to be talking about him a whole lot after today.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll tell you. [SPEAKER_06]: We will never have to talk about him after today. [SPEAKER_03]: Show these, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Big thanks by the way to everybody joining us coming in the door from all of our great radio affiliates.

[SPEAKER_03]: Whether you are coming in from our friends in Chicago at WCPTAM-820, or maybe you are joining us from the folks in the Tri-City area of Tennessee, D2 or talk, or maybe you are joining us from AM-950, Minneapolis Saint Paul, or maybe you're listening on Georgia now, ready when Atlanta, or maybe you are coming to us from progressive voices radio somewhere else on the planet. [SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe you're on this base station listening if you are. [SPEAKER_03]: That'd be cool.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we appreciate you listening from wherever you happen to be and also, you know, maybe you're one of those future people hang it out It's tomorrow. [SPEAKER_03]: You're like everything settled. [SPEAKER_03]: Trust me everything is not settled, but you know, we we appreciate your Kind thoughts sending him back to us in this. [SPEAKER_03]: There you go [SPEAKER_03]: All right, Jody. [SPEAKER_03]: It is Tuesday and we have Jared coming in. [SPEAKER_03]: We do.

[SPEAKER_06]: I love Jared. [SPEAKER_06]: It's fun. [SPEAKER_06]: I love Jared too. [SPEAKER_03]: He's great. [SPEAKER_03]: He's always fun. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's actually going to help us a little bit with this today. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a good bit today. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the because of the fact that so for those who missed it, [SPEAKER_03]: Last night, we were out of the bar. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, must have been his late. [SPEAKER_03]: And it came down from the Atlantic.

[SPEAKER_03]: We have the piece right there at the top of the news on Tap today. [SPEAKER_03]: The first round, a show of accountability under the Minnesota Murder Fallout. [SPEAKER_03]: Bye, Bavino. [SPEAKER_03]: The now former board of the troll commander, Greg, short stack with you know, has been removed from his job and he's expected to quote unquote retired. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's coming back to El Centro, which is here in Southern California.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but then he will basically he'll be there temporarily and then he'll which basically just means that they're they're saying to him. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's when you're a certain kind of person at a certain level and a certain kind of a job. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't usually just, you know, escort you to the door with your box. [SPEAKER_06]: I know I've had that. [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, I mean too. [SPEAKER_03]: That's never fun.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's that's that's the entire office had to do it. [SPEAKER_06]: It was hilarious. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's at least at least that way other people are doing it, too. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, it was, and they sent us in one at a time with security. [SPEAKER_03]: That's just stupid. [SPEAKER_06]: It was, it was a computer thing, and so I think they were worried about people stealing code, but I'm like, I'm here for, I'm just do content.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how to code. [SPEAKER_03]: That's just dumb. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but not at all. [SPEAKER_03]: If you're at the level that Bavino is, they say that you're retiring. [SPEAKER_03]: And then they send you back down to where you were so that you can clean out your office there, maybe on a weekend or something, and there will still probably be a security person there.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just somebody that you know, hanging out with, whatever, and they, yeah, I mean, but it's, yeah, he's, he's getting kind. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah, and he should. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they're throwing him under the bus, and it looks like no might be next. [SPEAKER_06]: We'll see. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I do know that, uh, I came Jeffries was on MS now earlier today.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I just, I got an alert and I was like, OK, and I flipped over and I saw it. [SPEAKER_03]: And he was talking to the annoying Christianity. [SPEAKER_06]: She doesn't bother me as much as Katie Tertas, but [SPEAKER_03]: You know, look, what bothers me is that I know they both can do better. [SPEAKER_03]: Something that bothers me with Jake Tappers, that I'm like, you can do better. [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen you do better. [SPEAKER_03]: I know you can do better.

[SPEAKER_03]: Quit trying to couch this to the people who are never going to watch you and never going to love you.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree and I I do also blame their producers for that because oh God yes, they have been 100% But the producers and of course the executives who know that they can lean on producers I'm gonna spend you with a little message, but don't tell the talent Sorry that annoys the living hell out of me when people do that that's [SPEAKER_03]: I have always prided myself when I, as I've been a producer over, you know, more traditional shows.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, this is just you and I. [SPEAKER_03]: We, we produce, we produce, we produce for each other and it works. [SPEAKER_03]: It's great, you know, we take notes occasionally from each other and that's fine too. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's, that's how, you know, producers and talent, you know, when you're both.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, when it's a more traditional show, you're the producer and everybody's technically under you even if your name isn't on the show, which is most of the time. [SPEAKER_03]: you know, you have executives oftentimes above you. [SPEAKER_03]: And the executives say, even though I'm not on the show, this is what I really, you know, I think this is, or people are saying, yeah, meaning their friends at the club, the club.

[SPEAKER_06]: And that's the other thing is it's like, if we're I to be talent and a producer is not allowed to talk to me about something that's wrong, that's not right. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, but they'll say, if I find out, I'll fire you and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

[SPEAKER_03]: But it's also to act as a shield from the idiots, the A-holes, the executives, the advertisers, anybody else who says, well, I think I want to stick a finger in this. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm sorry, if you want to do this, you come under this side of the umbrella. [SPEAKER_03]: You come here, you do the work, you face the things that we face. [SPEAKER_03]: You face the collars, the e-mailers, you face other people in your industry.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you said this instead of that, you face scorn and industry publications. [SPEAKER_03]: If you mess up, you face all that type of stuff on this side of it. [SPEAKER_03]: On the other side of that umbrella. [SPEAKER_03]: You all sit your fat asses and then sweet ass nice seats. [SPEAKER_03]: You get the nice pay and you don't have to do a damn lick of real work. [SPEAKER_03]: So I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_03]: But you shut up and go get me the money and I'll stay here with the people who actually do the real work. [SPEAKER_03]: and I've told them that before and they're like, you're a jerk, I said no, my job is to make sure these people can do their jobs. [SPEAKER_03]: Your job is to make the money. [SPEAKER_03]: Go do the thing and I'll do mine. [SPEAKER_06]: When I first produced the first movie that I did, I said to another producer, friend of, he's actually in my family.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's my cousin's husband. [SPEAKER_06]: I said, I kind of knew what producing was. [SPEAKER_06]: And what I've learned is, when you're doing it right, nobody notices.

[SPEAKER_03]: right exactly when you're doing it right no because I mean it just works the way it's supposed to work it actually is that way in a lot of businesses it's that way in a lot of government too and we can see this obviously with the way that Bavino some of the other CBP ice folks are supposed to be leaving they may have obviously left it's evening now so they probably left it Minnesota Minneapolis earlier today so they were replacing Bavino [SPEAKER_03]: Coleman.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I don't always get that wrong. [SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Mumbles. [SPEAKER_03]: Look what I think of him and bag. [SPEAKER_03]: I think of Kava. [SPEAKER_03]: I know He's gonna ruin that corruption. [SPEAKER_06]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, that's for reading a corrupt. [SPEAKER_03]: He knows he's not anyway anyway, but [SPEAKER_03]: Look, so I guess home and met with Mayor Fry and Governor Walls today in Minnesota and supposedly they had good meetings, so we'll see.

[SPEAKER_03]: Trump had a meeting of his own, actually. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Christy known. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the big kicker. [SPEAKER_03]: Trump had a meeting with Christy known for two hours to talk about all this stuff, but they met without Stephen Miller. [SPEAKER_06]: They did, which is interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: In Trump's past.

[SPEAKER_03]: When this type of thing, similar things have happened, this is a sign that he's realized somebody else is trying to use his power, and there are very few red lines that Trump has, and that's one of them. [SPEAKER_03]: He is the only big dog in his corner, according to him. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's really pissed off. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, maybe Donald listens to the show and we call him, you know, president Miller. [SPEAKER_03]: President Miller?

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's possible we could call him president Miller. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's what we call him just as long as we don't mention Jonathan Ross's name, but other than that. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but wait a minute. [SPEAKER_03]: Did Jonathan Ross work for president Miller? [SPEAKER_06]: Not yet. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, sort of like, I mean, I'm gonna do it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: For president Miller.

[SPEAKER_06]: So maybe, maybe Donald will say that. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: It's possible. [SPEAKER_03]: But in the past, that has been a red line for Trump with certain people and he doesn't he doesn't cut them off right away. [SPEAKER_03]: He can't lead them on. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he did that with Elon. [SPEAKER_03]: Waits for them to hang themselves, basically.

[SPEAKER_03]: We have all of these stories right there, that in the first round of the news on tap under a show of accountability, a lot of this is under the Minnesota murder fallout. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, some of the Republicans are looking for this stuff, but there is still some accountability. [SPEAKER_03]: A federal judge has ordered the acting ice chief to appear in courts. [SPEAKER_03]: I know that's supposed to happen this afternoon.

[SPEAKER_03]: I never heard what the outcome was, did you? [SPEAKER_06]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, he's threatening a contempt ruling because there's been repeated failures of ice to comply with court order. [SPEAKER_03]: Shocker. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Big surprise. [SPEAKER_03]: No, not though. [SPEAKER_03]: But there's also a piece in the news on Tapin that first round of day for me called Scouts and The Attrics. [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you remember this or not, but I have a link in my piece there. [SPEAKER_03]: When? [SPEAKER_03]: signal gate was first popping up and we were talking about signal gate. [SPEAKER_03]: A little more than, about a year, a little more than a year ago, it was made very clear. [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, by Miller and a few others, that Donald Trump, one of the things he thought that he did wrong during his first regime was that he let Democrats take a scalp.

[SPEAKER_03]: Or two or three or four the first one they took was Michael Flynn and he said when after that It just they just kept taking people. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that we've taken people.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just his people were doing illegal things and They kept getting caught So Trump says no more scouts no scouts [SPEAKER_03]: Remember he he let them do just about anything they want to kick breath could be as drunk as he wanted and you know Christie the gnome couldn't you know do whatever stupid ass thing shooting another dog whatever cuz he doesn't want any scouts right but Greg Bavino is a scout absolutely

[SPEAKER_03]: And whether anybody likes it or not, I'm not saying we should throw a goddamn street parade. [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody was mentioning that to me last night on the air and I'm like, they're on social media and I was like, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not like, we don't need to throw a gigantic ticker tape parade like they have in Chicago and no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: But it is something to celebrate because he is bad. [SPEAKER_03]: He's going away.

[SPEAKER_03]: And yes, maybe he'll pop up somewhere else. [SPEAKER_03]: But he's not in the same position he was. [SPEAKER_03]: It is a scalp and the correct attitude is great. [SPEAKER_03]: We got one. [SPEAKER_03]: Now there's much other, you know, crap folks, let's go get another and unfortunately I don't know how dedicated to going to get scalps into stopping some of the damage, some of the damage that I can see VP can do. [SPEAKER_03]: That's some of the Democrats in the house are doing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some seem a lot more committed to it than others. [SPEAKER_03]: So I [SPEAKER_03]: We got to talk about a game. [SPEAKER_03]: We got to talk about Chuck. [SPEAKER_03]: We got to talk about some of the Democrats doing their work and some of them not. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course the ice folks, yeah, there's still monsters. [SPEAKER_03]: They're just doing things in other places now that are not quite as bad as killing innocent citizens, but there's no monsters.

[SPEAKER_06]: There's another, another person was shot this afternoon and we weren't able to get to be in Arizona, so we're still waiting on that because it's [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about all of that. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, we have a great drink of the day today and one that you should remember. [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, Jared, as we said, he's coming in. [SPEAKER_03]: So look, fresh in your drink, do what you got to do.

[SPEAKER_03]: It is a Tuesday night with Jody and me and you here at politics bar, hang on. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Tuesday night. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's politics, Mark. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much for joining us from wherever you are, whether you are listening live or on the podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: We appreciate you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, you guys can always join us on the social media, postations wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_03]: Whether you are on Blue Sky or Substack, Facebook, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, YouTube, we're in all of those in the same place. [SPEAKER_03]: We are at the politics bar, literally, at sign the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: in all of those places.

[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're in one of those places, you can find us there, well, you know, you guys are listening, so you're already here, which is cool. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, if you're not here, you can call us on the bark line 2136777258. [SPEAKER_03]: That's 21367777258 or 213677 salt, like in your Margarita. [SPEAKER_03]: which is always good. [SPEAKER_03]: Jody, let's see here, uh, Scano over in the blue sky corner. [SPEAKER_03]: Scano. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey Scano.

[SPEAKER_03]: He says, he says, uh, uh, so Bavina says that by calling Ice Agents Nazis, they have no choice but to act like Nazis. [SPEAKER_03]: So Scano says, hey, I say, let's call Ice Agents drag queens. [SPEAKER_03]: And that way, they'll have no choice, but to dress up like drag queens. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what? [SPEAKER_03]: That deserves some applause, Scano. [SPEAKER_03]: That is a great idea. [SPEAKER_06]: I love that idea.

[SPEAKER_03]: We should start calling ICE agents drag queens because, you know, if you're going by short stack the Vino's logic, then you just, that's just that. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what they have to do by not exactly course. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that's going to work with Republicans as a whole because then then we would be like we'll call them sane and with good judgment and that's entertaining looks good in the dress. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because I saw Julie on me, not good in a dress.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, not good in a dress. [SPEAKER_03]: Also, you know, Nancy Mason, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_06]: She's help. [SPEAKER_03]: She really does. [SPEAKER_06]: Whatever is going on with this woman, she's, she needs good mental help. [SPEAKER_06]: She's not right in the head. [SPEAKER_06]: Whatever PTSD she might have from being raped. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you think Lauren, Bobrick is crazy, so I'll maybe Bobrick could give her a hand. [SPEAKER_03]: saying it's possible.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to judge. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't judge. [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all have fun. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't judge. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, we will get back to the news on tap here. [SPEAKER_03]: So in that first round, a show of accountability. [SPEAKER_03]: We do think it is a show of accountability. [SPEAKER_03]: And one of the reasons why, as you mentioned, Jody, there was that shooting, Ice Agent shots. [SPEAKER_03]: Was it an immigrant in Arizona?

[SPEAKER_06]: I, it's still just coming through. [SPEAKER_03]: It's still kind of pending, it's kind of vague as we saw earlier this afternoon. [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard sometimes, as we've said before, when it comes to shootings, you've got to kind of wait sometimes easily a day for stuff to come in. [SPEAKER_03]: But in the meantime, can I say it was part of patrol, not nice to let you know. [SPEAKER_03]: I support a patrol.

[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people are conflating the two, and the way they're being used and abused, right? [SPEAKER_06]: They are conflated by how they're being, I mean, nobody's near the border in Minneapolis.

[SPEAKER_06]: right Minneapolis is not it's far from the Canadian border let alone the Mexican border Minneapolis is actually really close to the border of Saint Paul yeah and Saint Paul is really close to the border of Minneapolis but as far as like the northern border they're not that close to the Canadian border and they're certainly not close to the Mexican border which is the only border anybody seems to care about.

[SPEAKER_03]: right exactly looks good jolly's right cash retail by the way admitted that the FBI investigating it is investigating the Minnesota signal groups so if you guys are you know have some of those remember there are other similar apps to signal since jackass might be listening i won't even tell you what they are but you guys know talk amongst yourselves and you know put make sure if you have signal groups just

[SPEAKER_06]: uh... sauce out who you've had everybody before you let them in uh... because apparently there are some right wingers that are joining these signals we said we said that trump said that all there's provocateurs [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're right. [SPEAKER_06]: They're right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're right. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: So just make sure you guys are taken care of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I also, by the way, says it's a rest of more than 200 people since they started their invasion of Maine last week. [SPEAKER_03]: And sure enough, some of the ice watchers in Maine say they were threatened by federal agents. [SPEAKER_03]: Why am I not surprised at all? [SPEAKER_03]: You've been to Maine, Jodie. [SPEAKER_06]: I have never been to Maine. [SPEAKER_06]: My old roommate, though, she lived there for a while.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So you knew somebody who was a Maineer. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Mainers can spot outsiders. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, of course. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because main is not exactly the most populated state in the Union, just a little homogenous. [SPEAKER_06]: It's, you know, look, it's nothing wrong with that, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: It's beautiful. [SPEAKER_03]: There's there's some great people, you know, got some good latte.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, really, but, and obviously lobster. [SPEAKER_03]: Last look, lobster. [SPEAKER_03]: But, [SPEAKER_03]: Manors very much because it is somewhat out of the way and somewhat lower population. [SPEAKER_03]: They have a very unique way of doing it, but I've seen a similar reaction in certain places in Western Nebraska that are far earlier away from the interstate. [SPEAKER_03]: If it is off the beaten path and it's not it's not really near an interstate or a highway.

[SPEAKER_03]: And all of a sudden, somebody, or a bunch of somebody's come in, everybody in that little town knows it. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, of course. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody does. [SPEAKER_03]: Because that don't happen. [SPEAKER_03]: People don't just show up. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: For no reason. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're there for something. [SPEAKER_03]: A man or no, I was like, all right, okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: So they've been, you folks in Maine who are listening, you guys know, and we appreciate you guys looking out and you know, learning your friends and neighbors, too, that the ice monsters are there. [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact that ice is just picked up and now there's shooting people in Arizona and beating people up in Maine and I'm like, and yet we have another story to the news on tap today.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're morale among ice agents because they have long hours unrealistic quotas and everybody hates their guts. [SPEAKER_09]: baby. [SPEAKER_03]: And the funny thing is that the the piece that's right below that is talking about how experience ice agents are basically pissed off. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think a bunch of them talked to journalist Ken Clip and Stein and he basically was like, they're going, okay, look, there's a bunch of these 19 year old untrained ignorant jackasses.

[SPEAKER_03]: who are coming in, they don't know the rules, they don't care about the paperwork, they're effin' everything up, they're leaving a mess for those of us who are experiencing a clean up. [SPEAKER_03]: This is pain in the ass. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, and I mean, what, they're not being trained. [SPEAKER_06]: We, I know, in my heart of hearts that a lot of these people that are doing all this are pardon Jay, Jay-Sixers. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of them are, I know that some of them are.

[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have confirmation of that yet, but- Because they were masks. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and that's, so that gets to the other thing. [SPEAKER_03]: In the second round, we'll skip to the part about Minnesota winning, because we will talk a little bit about that with Jared. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure some great pieces from Adam Sirwer and honorary cocks. [SPEAKER_03]: They are both available. [SPEAKER_03]: You can go and check them out there.

[SPEAKER_03]: But in the second round of the news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: So the ice battle on Capitol Hill. [SPEAKER_03]: Senate Republicans are being jackasses. [SPEAKER_03]: No surprise. [SPEAKER_03]: John Thunes always been a jackass. [SPEAKER_03]: And they were refusing to split the funding bill. [SPEAKER_03]: The DHS funding bill away from the other funding bills. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know why it's gonna fail.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, and Senate Democrats are ready to shut down the government over it. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, there's going to be probably a partial shutdown. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what Democrats and people who vote for Democrats, whether you're a Democratic independent, or for some reason, you're a non-Trump Republican, but you still, you want to vote Democratic, but you still, well, I don't care, you're registered, that's fine.

[SPEAKER_03]: But if you're voting for Democrats, you probably want some things to change. [SPEAKER_03]: You want DHS? [SPEAKER_03]: Ice, CBP, to be held accountable. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: and they could. [SPEAKER_03]: This isn't this bill is not going to stop all of the money that was in the big ugly bill.

[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, it was taken from your health care that you may be looking at the bill and freaking out about, you have the money for all of these beating people up and grabbing people, breaking the houses, killing innocent USA. [SPEAKER_03]: That's all from your health care, by the way, that's that's it. [SPEAKER_06]: And they didn't need another 20 million.

[SPEAKER_06]: They are the more funded than [SPEAKER_03]: military there way overfunded in some of our branches of our military absolutely um like if if you're a if you're a co-steer you know somebody's a co-steer co-scard mm-hmm DHS is now way more funded than them which is a close so but [SPEAKER_03]: Democrats can still do some things. [SPEAKER_03]: They can put some writers on this. [SPEAKER_03]: They can put some behavioral writers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Greg Sargent, who's over the new Republic these days, Greg's a good guy. [SPEAKER_03]: I've enjoyed Greg's work for a long time. [SPEAKER_03]: Can interview with the Senator Chris Murphy on his podcast?

[SPEAKER_03]: And Murphy was talking for the caucus was allowed to and said basically Democrats have coalesced around five restrictions on ice that they're willing to go with that they could get the entire Senate Democratic caucus to go with and maybe some Republicans we'll see these five things are DHS would be required to cooperate with state investigations say probes that's a huge thing right the second one CBP would stay at the border. [SPEAKER_05]: That's where they're supposed to be.

[SPEAKER_05]: They're called lunar patrol. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, water, wet, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Third thing, judicial warrants, if you required for arrests, which, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: CBP and ICE must wear IDs, body cams, and have no masks. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: And the fifth thing that ICE would stop going into churches and schools.

[SPEAKER_03]: which is what it was under Obama and under Biden and the reason that they did no churches, mosques, temples, schools, any religious institution. [SPEAKER_03]: Any religious institution and schools, that includes university campuses, is because of the high level of endangering things. [SPEAKER_03]: You got a kid or you got a dog or a cat for that matter. [SPEAKER_03]: That's your kid. [SPEAKER_03]: It is for us. [SPEAKER_03]: You'll be almost anything for him.

[SPEAKER_03]: You'll run through brick walls for the course. [SPEAKER_03]: So you see these ice monsters run through your schools. [SPEAKER_03]: You go get, you want to get up and go and get involved. [SPEAKER_04]: Of course. [SPEAKER_03]: Which then just makes a situation even more volatile and bad. [SPEAKER_03]: Which is one of the reasons why Obama and Biden did that and said, not in schools or religious places.

[SPEAKER_03]: keep them out of stand outside and be a jackass that way if you want on the public property outside but not inside because you're endangering other people kind of like a lot more police departments because the statistics have proven this have said they they no longer do high speed chases for the most part I lost Angela's hello exactly and why do they not do the high [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Joe is right.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's so much more dangerous than the benefit that they could get by trying to chase them down and catch them. [SPEAKER_03]: The damage that they do to police department stuff, to public stuff, which also comes from our tax dollars. [SPEAKER_03]: And more times than they, you know, more times than you hear about the person either gets away or they themselves get damaged and then there's issues there and in some states they can soon for liability.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, you were, you know, you're a thief, but we were trying to chase you and yeah, but you know, you were trying to chase me and you caused the accident. [SPEAKER_03]: It's really stupid, but so they just go no, it's not worth it. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's understandable stay out of freaking schools and churches. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, we'll see what the Republicans do. [SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, the thing is he's not the smartest.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's not the prize bowl in the box. [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see. [SPEAKER_03]: But uh, and even if even if ifthoon and some of the Republicans did agree to it, the house is out this week. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's still almost certain that we're going to have a some type of a partial shutdown here at the end of the week. [SPEAKER_03]: And just think. [SPEAKER_03]: They get until September if they pass this, and then we'll do it again. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and that fun.

[SPEAKER_06]: Ugh, anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, a lot of issues with all of this stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: I want to go back up to that first round, though. [SPEAKER_03]: The people of Minnesota are actually, they have really been showing the way to do things. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And you should really read the pieces by Adam's work, sir, we're in an honorary Cox because man, I just got to give applause. [SPEAKER_03]: Do you folks in the cities throughout Minnesota?

[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Teller good people anyway, so, you know, and some of you can't take compliments. [SPEAKER_03]: So take this as it were, I know some of you ain't gonna like that, but y'all doing a really good job of showing everybody else in a country and learning, taking lessons from every other place where the ice monsters have been. [SPEAKER_03]: Incorporating them, doing your own thing. [SPEAKER_03]: I know you love the traffic thing, the car horror.

[SPEAKER_06]: Car alarms, that is my favorite thing because what are CBP or I supposed to do about that. [SPEAKER_06]: Car alarms go off for no reason all the time. [SPEAKER_03]: for lots of reasons and no reason and they don't know where to come from. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's the whoever thought you y'all thought whoever thought of that. [SPEAKER_06]: You guys that was just that was hands down brilliant. [SPEAKER_03]: Chef's kiss.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's it's the idea that Minnesota has really stood up and shown people how to organize in a non centralized format. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, Bob brought up the fact that they keep saying, oh, they're paid. [SPEAKER_06]: So what? [SPEAKER_06]: Well, even if they were paid to protest, who cares? [SPEAKER_06]: You're allowed to do that. [SPEAKER_06]: Citizens united. [SPEAKER_06]: Hi. [SPEAKER_06]: Hey. [SPEAKER_06]: Money is speech people.

[SPEAKER_03]: So as long as those are the rules, as long as those are the rules. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you guys do it on the right. [SPEAKER_03]: We can do it on left too. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, hi, Tea Party protests. [SPEAKER_06]: Remember those were all ostrichers. [SPEAKER_03]: Those were all ostrichers. [SPEAKER_03]: We have all kinds of receipts on that. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the other thing. [SPEAKER_06]: They're not even providing receipts.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like, this person got paid $10,000. [SPEAKER_06]: That person got paid $100,000, whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: Things they have to provide receipts because for them, the accusation is enough. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like when Donald Trump tries to sue somebody. [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't necessarily want to get him convicted. [SPEAKER_03]: He just wants to be able to say, well, see, they did something wrong.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, today's not a funny, it's a serious day today. [SPEAKER_03]: It is a serious place. [SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned it in the news on tap today in the Foreign Affairs section that the world has paused to commemorate international Holocaust remembrance day. [SPEAKER_03]: And that is the reason for the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: What is the drink of the day today, Jody? [SPEAKER_06]: It's called a Fallen Leaves cocktail. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a serious day.

[SPEAKER_06]: Very much so that picture that the kids, I just thought was just heartbreaking that I didn't know. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm glad you included it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good picture. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's hard for people to remember. [SPEAKER_06]: I do think aren't we housing more people right now in camps than they ever did? [SPEAKER_03]: there's there's a question it's unknown, but we're having more than we should, which is we should be having none. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then of course there's the there's all the stuff that goes along with with with Gaza and with Israel and folks do have to remember that that is it is not our direct conflict. [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, it was horrifying and there's a lot that the world should have done more to stop that. [SPEAKER_03]: There has been some genocidal acts in Africa, different nations there. [SPEAKER_03]: I won't go and do all the details there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, China trying to eliminate all the U-gers, U-gers, however, how do you pronounce it? [SPEAKER_06]: When it's U-gers and I think they want Taiwan, too, don't they? [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, eventually, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, there's a, there are a lot of potential Holocaust and some, their disastrous. [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously, the one that most of us know is from World War II, which was horrific.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's important for people to understand what you're doing today, if you are, if you're protesting somewhere around the country, if you've been protesting, if you've been taking local actions, whistles, you've been helping people, getting groceries, you've been, you know, anything that you've been doing like this, you are [SPEAKER_03]: doing what you can, right? [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not asking you to do a whole lot more. [SPEAKER_03]: Joe, he's not asking you to do more.

[SPEAKER_06]: But what can stay say, do what you can. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And by doing the things that you can, you are helping to prevent another such thing here. [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't mean that it's not a binary. [SPEAKER_03]: It always drives me nuts when people say it's a binary. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, well, we save them all or save none of them. [SPEAKER_06]: That's a bad logic problem. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like the train has this and there's a sky over here, but you're going to save the people on the train and what do you do? [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: You save however many you can. [SPEAKER_03]: You save. [SPEAKER_03]: You do what you can as much as you can for as long as you can for all the people you can. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you do. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it doesn't, it doesn't mean that it doesn't count if you don't save everybody. [SPEAKER_03]: It sucks. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Schindler's list. [SPEAKER_06]: He saved how many. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: He did what he could. [SPEAKER_06]: He was awful. [SPEAKER_03]: He was the guy that we had the drink of the day last week, the French mayor. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And he got like 5,000 people out.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, every single person, [SPEAKER_03]: To you, maybe sitting there reading in a book, you're sitting there going into number. [SPEAKER_03]: But to somebody else, it's a family member. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, somebody, I know people, I know there's a girl that I went to high school within Hawaii, her parents, French mom, Spanish father. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_06]: were kids during World War II.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: And actually, I'm Spanish mother, French father, because her dad was 13 years old when Hitler came through his town when they came through and he's Jewish. [SPEAKER_06]: And he was 13 and his family put him out on their like, windowsill. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_06]: And he heard his entire family get taken away. [SPEAKER_06]: And he was able to survive the French underground and then he ended up emigrating to Spain.

[SPEAKER_06]: Change just last name to a catholic or Christian sounding last name. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: And married his wife and they were married forever. [SPEAKER_06]: He passed away not too long ago. [SPEAKER_06]: And but yeah, I mean, he escaped. [SPEAKER_06]: And when my friend was, I don't know, 16 or 17, they all went to Poland and they saw the names of his family. [SPEAKER_06]: Of their family. [SPEAKER_03]: It's important to somebody.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it's important to remember that you do what you can. [SPEAKER_03]: Holocaust remembrance day is obviously about the victims. [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously a reminder of the dangers of hatred, bigotry, anti-Semitism, but it's also a good reminder that there are monsters, there are always monsters like that.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like the people that helped my friends got, you know, I mean, he was the 13 year old Jew in France when the Nazis came through and they got him out, you know, and he was able to survive that Mary his wife and have three children. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, those three kids matter to hell of a lot, and to a lot of other people, I'm sure Israel. [SPEAKER_06]: And his grandchildren are here because he got out because people helped him get out.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: So you do what you can. [SPEAKER_03]: You don't beat yourself up about it. [SPEAKER_03]: You do what you can. [SPEAKER_03]: You help out. [SPEAKER_03]: And today is a day to remind yourself. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's some awful stuff going on. [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, sometimes we let our imaginations get away with us. [SPEAKER_03]: And we, you know, think about how things could be so much worse here.

[SPEAKER_03]: And how things are way too close to how things have been in the past [SPEAKER_03]: but at the same time, there are more of us than there are of them. [SPEAKER_03]: There are more of a good people on the planet, I believe, and we have a whole lot of tools that they never had back then. [SPEAKER_06]: True. [SPEAKER_06]: There shall be that history. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I was going for. [SPEAKER_03]: You and I hit that same time. [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I think it's important, you know, people look at that and go, all right. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: No, give us a lead to the good people and make sure that you remember, with the drink of the day today. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, you're going to need a mixing glass, some ice, a pre-chilled Nick and Nora glass. [SPEAKER_03]: Following leaves cocktail, by the way, that's what we're making.

[SPEAKER_06]: Right, three quarters of an ounce of calivados, apple brandy, or straight apple jack. [SPEAKER_06]: Three quarters of an ounce of strucci, rosso vermouth, a quarter ounce of strucci driver mouth, so it's a they're fighting with each other. [SPEAKER_06]: I want you sweet, I want you this sweet, I want you dry.

[SPEAKER_06]: A sixth of an ounce, which is a very small amount of cognac, like Hennessier, Remy Martin, and then you garnish with a lemon twist, and this is a very simple drink to make you stir all the ingredients with the ice and you're mixing glass. [SPEAKER_06]: You find straight into the Nick Norg glass and you express the lemon twist around it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's got a kick to it, I'm sure.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, when you got, yeah, when you got the brandy and the cognac in there, and there's a lot of booze. [SPEAKER_06]: So be careful. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good drink just to, you know, remember that's that's the important thing to do when you Absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: Today is a day of remembrance and God rest all their souls. [SPEAKER_03]: Amen to that. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, if you missed any part of the drink of the day, you know what to do.

[SPEAKER_03]: You can subscribe at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_03]: All right here in the news on tap we usually jump down the entertainment section around this time and there is some stuff actually in the media section as well You'll start to hear this week meta tech talk and YouTube among others facing landmark trial this week about youth addiction to social media platforms

[SPEAKER_03]: For the record, if you remember some of the Facebook trials and that were with the Facebook hearings in Congress a few years ago, we already know that they've done stuff to try to make people addicted to it. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it's the algorithm. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, anybody that works in that industry, their children don't have access to their on platforms because they know a lot of them and look.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have said I said this is the end of the day we I think the algorithms should be out there They need to be plainly labeled as to what it is if you want to do that. [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine Look they got they got uh, what is it red light districts? [SPEAKER_03]: Certain countries haven't you want to go and you want to go and you want to go and you do want to do certain things That's fine.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's on you [SPEAKER_03]: But it's labeling it and knowing it, and then because if it's legal, it can be regulated. [SPEAKER_03]: And if it can be regulated, then they can make sure you don't kill yourself and do something really stupid with it. [SPEAKER_03]: it needs to be out there. [SPEAKER_03]: If you decide, you know, that you're fine with getting 18 times of awful ads because they give you whatever free. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you should be able to pick that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's stupid, but whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the fact that the algorithm that you want to choose, congratulations, you should be able to. [SPEAKER_03]: We can't choose any of our algorithms on any of those social media stuff right now. [SPEAKER_06]: Now, blue sky is the only one that I think has very little or no algorithm going on because it has some kind of a way and you can, you can kind of tweak your own algorithm. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: You have to be, it's not easy. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that should be something that should also be regulated and saying, you know, not only do you, these are the algorithms you can pick from, but it also has to be turnkey, has to be easy. [SPEAKER_03]: So, that's the one I want. [SPEAKER_03]: As opposed to, I got to know code and no, no, she doesn't have to do that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, blue sky is better for that though. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's one of the reasons I like it.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the reasons a lot of journalists like it. [SPEAKER_03]: So TikTok, by the way, igniting a reigniting these censorship debate because some of Trump's friends just bought it and conveniently some people are saying they were trying to post videos of some of the protests from this weekend and other things and anti-Trump things. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they couldn't post them and [SPEAKER_06]: Well, didn't they crash the other night?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I am just looking at it and saying, if it is a censorship problem, it will continue a long past the time when their servers should have been fixed. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So we we will know about that. [SPEAKER_03]: We will find out. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, also another media note. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry Wise has a new plan at CBS news. [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me, think this is a good plan, Judy. [SPEAKER_03]: It's supposed to be a news organization yet.

[SPEAKER_03]: She wants to cut experience journalists and add right wing opinion columnists. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a bad plan. [SPEAKER_06]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Joe, you're correct. [SPEAKER_06]: Barry. [SPEAKER_06]: Barry. [SPEAKER_06]: Barry. [SPEAKER_06]: Barry. [SPEAKER_06]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_05]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry. [SPEAKER_03]: Barry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: DHS kind of parses people out in different things, but yeah, and basically the mayor of Malon is like, yeah, we've heard about your ice guys. [SPEAKER_03]: You can take them and shove them. [SPEAKER_03]: They are not welcome here for the Olympics. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait, I'm like, good. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I understand sending like security for our teams. [SPEAKER_06]: But, not ice. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, but they're, you know, they're like, remember, this is the Trump regime.

[SPEAKER_03]: So you have guys going, you know, hey, man, I want to go there. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll volunteer for it. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, the stories are all there. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys can read them. [SPEAKER_03]: That's in the entertainment section of the news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of entertaining, you know, who's coming in next? [SPEAKER_06]: I know, I love him. [SPEAKER_03]: Ha, Jared Rizzi is coming in.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have some fun with him. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk and actually find out if what we're thinking is true. [SPEAKER_03]: If this is all just a show and there's no real accountability going on. [SPEAKER_03]: We got that coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously more from the news on tap as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Freshing your drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Go down the hall. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what we say. [SPEAKER_03]: Left right in center.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, look, I don't want to disrupt the thing that we, you know, the, can I say he did rivalry that we've got between us. [SPEAKER_00]: But I do, but I, I, I, I do hate you a little bit. [SPEAKER_00]: I understand. [SPEAKER_00]: I am reminded. [SPEAKER_05]: I am against it. [SPEAKER_05]: This is winter. [SPEAKER_05]: I should be wearing furry coats. [SPEAKER_05]: I am against what's happening.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a part of your wardrobe that you have just kind of stocked away and you're like, oh, when I get to go, like, I'm, I get excited about getting to wear those things. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, I have these giant, like, I have a giant purple one and a giant red one and it's not real fur. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't do that, but they're furry and they're so nice and cozy, weren't, but it's going to be a bazillion degrees on Saturday. [SPEAKER_03]: It's helpful.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you wear it. [SPEAKER_03]: It makes you have money. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I did kill Barney. [SPEAKER_06]: I've killed a couch. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the most of the most upsetting thing is that Sean and I went to the exact same place. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's me rubbing off on him, him rubbing on him. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's again a heated brawl over here, my friends. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, I have a friend here. [SPEAKER_03]: Still, he's still not here anymore.

[SPEAKER_03]: He used to be here in DC. [SPEAKER_03]: He used to be over at DC 101 and big 100 here in the DC era. [SPEAKER_05]: I already have a friend. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a radio voice doesn't mean well he's he's the program director of burning man radio and he actually he's actually does some other radio stuff now, too. [SPEAKER_03]: But he had this this coat that looked like he killed Cookie Monster. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's to wear that in the wintertime.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just he come in, it is big, flowing blue thing and you're like, all right, where did you get that? [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, when he put on his glasses and a hat, you'd be like, oh, you're going pimping tonight. [SPEAKER_03]: I see, firm. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, my- And then you watch him eat giant cookies and then you don't hire that. [SPEAKER_00]: And he scrubs everywhere. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that I really, exactly.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, I have a pair of pants that are kind of velvety that my sister had. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's just so 70s. [SPEAKER_06]: And I was wearing that one day with my purple coat and the front of my goes, would the couch ever do to you? [SPEAKER_00]: J.D. [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't mean it. [SPEAKER_00]: The record 10 buzzers before we even started talking about a real compact bag.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard of this one of the reasons we love having you in a bar man is you are always yeah it's always fun having you here and obviously you know a little bit I mean you worked you covered the Trump part of the first regime I'm sure you're you used to be in the east wing sometimes occasionally I remember it well I miss it yeah they can't even screen a good movie around [SPEAKER_06]: I kind of want to see it, just to see how bad it is once it's for free.

[SPEAKER_00]: The Mulani movie. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, once it's free, I'm going to totally watch it. [SPEAKER_00]: I am. [SPEAKER_00]: Can we all agree on a date, a time, and a substance? [SPEAKER_00]: And just decide to talk to the other. [SPEAKER_00]: Because I do not V substance, but A substance. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: and different movie complete commentary about it like a mystery science theater there we go we can get great connifin exactly we get frank here i mean it really this is okay i'm just frank and trace you guys this is a this is a subscriber only kind of thing [SPEAKER_05]: It's a little late. [SPEAKER_00]: We deliver. [SPEAKER_00]: We deliver a box of whatever to Frank. [SPEAKER_03]: Frank drinks Coke. [SPEAKER_03]: Frank drinks Coca-Cola just like Joe he does you know, there we go.

[SPEAKER_00]: There we go. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's gonna be a very. [SPEAKER_06]: I got gummy some good. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there we go. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, they're legal here, too. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're, uh, love it. [SPEAKER_03]: But look, I'm a Lonnie movie is garbage, but one of the reasons honestly, I mean, you know, it's a budget matter.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's, you know, but we wanted to ask you about because, obviously, this is, we think all of this with, uh, Bavino leaving and, oh, yeah, and Hoback, I mean, home and sorry, uh, taking over and president Miller. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, because, yeah, I was a very good cut out of that meeting with Christy Nome, and that is the thing that Trump has done before when he is, when he realizes somebody else has tried to grab some of his power and use it without his authority is instead of keeping them constantly looped in, he suddenly all of a sentences, yeah, no, you don't get to go to the meeting. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say a couple of things about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: One, I don't think Steven Miller is going anywhere because if he did, who's going to apply the makeup to Trump's hand every morning? [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say a trail, but in a serious way, I really think that Steven Miller is the animating force of a administration that very much needs a weekend at Bernie's animator.

[SPEAKER_00]: to keep things moving we have seen that this policy when we're talking about immigration and a lot of other things directly goes in line with everything Stephen Miller has said and written in public since he was in college. [SPEAKER_00]: college. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.

[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine, yeah, college in high school, and imagine the crazy things that you thought and said then, and imagine if the coolest, dumbest, biggest jerk that you knew in college in high school was now. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's not going anywhere. [SPEAKER_00]: He is exactly where he wants to be. [SPEAKER_00]: I do. [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, I do. [SPEAKER_03]: I would love, I would love it. [SPEAKER_03]: I know some people are calling for his head.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would love it if they got rid of him. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he's not a cabinet position, so he can't be impeached. [SPEAKER_06]: So he's just at the pleasure of the president kind of thing. [SPEAKER_00]: I do think that, and this is something that was reported on today, that the statements about Alex Predi and about the specifically that he wanted to massacre agents, right, and he was a domestic terrorist, they are now being [SPEAKER_00]: This is a big deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is big. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: If you remember, if you remember, we literally had an entire day of the 2016 RNC devoted to Benghazi. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll fund him a quote unquote scandal that was about a memo about a tragedy that occurred and her message around it. [SPEAKER_00]: That's quite that bear centella of guilt and scandal was enough to do an entire day of the three or four days of programming.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe that they've given us a foothold here. [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to use it. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd like to see Democrats, elected Democrats willing to use it, [SPEAKER_00]: to if not take him down then at least grow a spine in the next couple of days so that we're not funding more of this domestic the actual domestic terrorism that's happening against regular people all over the country especially in places like Minnesota right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: I do think and especially because I hadn't, you know, getting stuff ready for the bar today and everything. [SPEAKER_03]: I hadn't heard that it had actually been sourced to him, but to me, that lens credence to the idea that he did cut Miller out of that meeting and Lewandowski, by the way, is also what they're reporting it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I knew that I knew that they cut Lewandowski out of me. [SPEAKER_05]: He's just there to have sex with her.

[SPEAKER_03]: disgusting the true home because with Lewandowski specificity is required that is also true yeah that's disgusting but also true sadly yes but but but the fact of the matter is I think he did that on purpose then because [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I think I think that Trump cut Miller out on purpose because that just because he's done it once doesn't mean he's going to drop the hammer, but occasionally those kinds of of small things that oftentimes get overlooked if you look at the past.

[SPEAKER_03]: when other AIDS and things have been on the outs with Trump, that's the kind of way that he signals his displeasure, and basically saying, you put a big turn in my path and made me step on it, and now you made me look bad. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not completely throwing you under the bus, but I'm at least pushing you towards the curb saying, don't do it again. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've talked a lot about how this administration is a verse to accountability.

[SPEAKER_00]: They don't tolerate accountability and like this Republican dominated Congress. [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't yet had to. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I do think that even though the basis of accountability that we're starting to see is an indication of a bigger kind of glacial change happening. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd like to write that all the way to wherever it's going, Canada, I hope.

[SPEAKER_00]: The opposite direction of wherever Greg Bavilla was going to farm up state. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's going to run free. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to chase all the rubbish. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but he just not want Chris you know of. [SPEAKER_06]: Because he can't run free with her.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and that's the thing is that we have seen there has been a lot of discord among the kind of big operators on this image right you know quote even calling it immigration policy Yeah, is nonsense because it's not immigration policy.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the way the government has decided to terrorize its citizens who didn't vote for Donald Trump exactly anyone who's even calling it immigration policy is carrying water for an administration that would like you very much to do as much water carrying as much [SPEAKER_00]: possible. [SPEAKER_00]: Understandable. [SPEAKER_00]: Understandable, but they have an entire whisky Friday's with Tony Dokeple to do that. [SPEAKER_03]: Damn, bastard. [SPEAKER_03]: Try to copy us.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sheep skates. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we know that Donald listens to the show because we keep referring to Steven Miller as president Miller and so now he's upset about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you tell me you're a president, Miller? [SPEAKER_06]: President Miller and Jonathan Ross. [SPEAKER_06]: These are the two things we're not supposed to talk about. [SPEAKER_03]: The guy who happened to kill is good. [SPEAKER_03]: Great. [SPEAKER_06]: That's Jonathan Ross.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan Ross, are you sure? [SPEAKER_00]: And we don't yet know the name of the person who killed Alex Craig. [SPEAKER_00]: Now yet, what we do know Jonathan Ross. [SPEAKER_06]: Jonathan Ross, it's Jonathan Ross. [SPEAKER_06]: Jonathan Ross. [SPEAKER_03]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: I believe, as Paula Pantston said, it's Jonathan Ross. [SPEAKER_03]: You have to, did, did, did, did, did. [SPEAKER_03]: And then, right. [SPEAKER_03]: And then, of course, they're boss president, Miller.

[SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: I think the other challenges, we're seeing the accountability and the way this is shifting, you know, public opinions the other side of this. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's just, it's a show of accountability, it's not actual accountability. [SPEAKER_03]: If you want the numbers actually, I did put in the, in today's news on tap actually, strengthened numbers, polling, that the polling is off the charts. [SPEAKER_03]: It is, what is it?

[SPEAKER_03]: 50 points now from what it was back in the, I mean, it is, it's way off the chart. [SPEAKER_00]: when we're talking about immigration, an issue that was a big winner for Trump in 2024. [SPEAKER_06]: Republicans, just a big winner for Republicans in general. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the message that a lot of Republicans on the Hill, and maybe because of some of your sources you've heard this, have basically been kind of sliding towards the Trump White House is saying, dude, [SPEAKER_03]: we didn't have any else to run this year. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: And we were they wanted it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: We were going to run it and you have now taken the one the only thing that we had an absolutely dipped it in dog crap. [SPEAKER_03]: And we can't run on this now. [SPEAKER_03]: You bastard.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I think it's important to say, especially because, you know, we're looking around the bar right now, and it's, it's three white people talking, you know, it's a big difference for the face of quote unquote immigration enforcement in this country, if the two people that have been very publicly killed are, you know, a white mom and a white VA nurse, I see you know, right, this, you know, poets and nurses who are also white is not the faces they wanted and we have to ex, I mean,

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to, this is pretty good. [SPEAKER_03]: No, you're talking to the two of you. [SPEAKER_03]: But you take your wins where you can. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's something that we can talk about that too a little bit. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I think that some of the further left people have been, you know what I say? [SPEAKER_03]: Look, credit we're doing criticism too. [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, got a little of both for her came.

[SPEAKER_03]: Got a little of both, obviously, for Chuck.

[SPEAKER_03]: And a little of both for some of the folks who are screaming, [SPEAKER_03]: well we must abolish ice and i get the position but i also get the reality um you know you ain't got the numbers and uh oh i'd love to talk to you about that yeah we disagree wrongly oh let's gang up on them shooting let's do it we don't know we don't know we don't mind but remember we don't have congress i wish we did well somebody better be recording this because we're gonna get all over you it's soft

[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll do that here. [SPEAKER_00]: Come and have a look. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk more about this. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got glory, Jared Rizzy. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a Tuesday night.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're hanging with Jared and Jody and me, and of course you fresh new drink and come all back Yeah, we'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar [SPEAKER_03]: And I hear it's politics bar, oh man, we have so much fun, we are so glad you guys come and join and hang us and hang out with Jared Rizzi, who we always love having at the bar. [SPEAKER_03]: We have way too much fun sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't disagree that things are moving in that way. [SPEAKER_03]: What I disagree with, and it is, and you're wrong. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: It's my, it's my, it is my typical thing of, this is, this is why I really hated when the liberals tried to steal the term progressive. [SPEAKER_03]: Because the key is, progressives actually make progress. [SPEAKER_03]: Liberals make noise.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's fine, because we need people to be making noise at times, but if you want to make progress, you have to realize that you're not the only one in the room, Jack asks, so I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely, if it were up to me, we would abolish ice, we wouldn't have done it already. [SPEAKER_03]: You would have been gone. [SPEAKER_03]: DHS would not be there. [SPEAKER_03]: We would have reorganized things completely.

[SPEAKER_03]: If it was up to me, [SPEAKER_03]: And there are a lot of people out there who go, well, I'm gonna scream and yell and I'm gonna yell, and I'm gonna yell at Schumer, I'm gonna yell at Jeffries and I'm gonna yell you suck, you suck if you don't do what I want. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, okay, Jack is, this is where I remind you. [SPEAKER_03]: This is a two-car race, a whole.

[SPEAKER_03]: The one-car has Nazis and they wanna put people and they are putting people in concentration camps. [SPEAKER_03]: The other-car has Democrats. [SPEAKER_03]: which basically right now it comes as the broad left, which is everybody from Bruce Bartlett. [SPEAKER_03]: All the way over past AOC. [SPEAKER_03]: You got everybody in there. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm sorry that that's the way it is right now. [SPEAKER_03]: I prefer it not to be that way either.

[SPEAKER_03]: But this is not Burger King. [SPEAKER_03]: You don't get a bitch because this isn't what I wanted. [SPEAKER_03]: You have to deal with what we have. [SPEAKER_03]: What we have is [SPEAKER_03]: You got to push the Democrats in Congress first things first. [SPEAKER_03]: You got to push them here the rest of this week. [SPEAKER_03]: You got to call the number 202-243-121. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's it.

[SPEAKER_03]: got to call us which board you got to call you remember Congress I don't care if they're d r i call them and tell them to vote no on the d h s funding bill that's what you got to do that is the very first thing you got to do then you got to look at the next thing you can do how many democrats can I get on my side I don't I didn't like the immigration bill [SPEAKER_03]: That's Murphy, and what the hell's his name from Oklahoma came up with. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a terrible bill.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really, it's a terrible, and you know what the, the Murphy's been bad as a Democrat Murphy's been bad on immigration for a long time. [SPEAKER_03]: But you know what's worse than the bill that that the Biden bill that put through what Donald Trump and the Republicans are doing now. [SPEAKER_03]: So let's the eye this on this, but this is, this is where a lot of liberals go, but that sucks.

[SPEAKER_03]: I go I didn't vote I voted for the black woman and the guy from Minnesota, but if you sat on your ass cuz you didn't f off [SPEAKER_03]: And I know there are people here like that's not fair, I go, what Murphy is saying right now is there are five things that he thinks that he can get every Democrat in some Republicans on board with.

[SPEAKER_03]: These five things are, DHS would be required to cooperate with state investigations, CBP stays at the border, judicial warrants for every arrest, CBP and ICE must wear IDs, body cams, and no masks, and ICE cannot be in churches and schools. [SPEAKER_03]: All of those are things I think that we can all go, okay. [SPEAKER_03]: this sucks right now, but if we have to have something like this right now, because here's the thing, they were funded through the Big Ugly Bill.

[SPEAKER_03]: We could put conditions on money going forward, but we cannot go in and cut it all out, and we can't just abolish ice, because Donald Trump is the jackass who has to sign the final bill. [SPEAKER_03]: I wish it was not the way it was, but that's the ugly reality we're living with. [SPEAKER_03]: So now you guys give me your agreements as to, you're arguments as to why I'm missing. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna go back with one thing. [SPEAKER_06]: Sure, liberal.

[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_06]: John Kennedy was a liberal. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing wrong with that. [SPEAKER_06]: The reason why liberal, and then there's... No, the reason that it changed to progressive was because of Rush Limbaugh, because he made liberal a bad word. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: So that's why liberals took on progressive. [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. [SPEAKER_06]: So liberal is not a bad thing. [SPEAKER_05]: I am a liberal.

[SPEAKER_03]: I, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a, as a broad term, I am a liberal. [SPEAKER_03]: But when you break it down to the subcamps that are in there. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, they do that with the conservatives. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's just me, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, exactly, but that's where you get the, that's, that's where you, that's what we're talking about right now, because we're not talking about the Republicans on this, because every one of them just goes, whatever Donald Trump says and Donald Trump says, let's take ice and beat up round people, because that's what Stephen Miller is telling in the middle of his hands, exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: All right, Jared. [SPEAKER_03]: We're not talking about the Republicans.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about the Democrats here. [SPEAKER_03]: And when you talk about Democrats, yes, you're going to have to talk about your central Democrats and your pragmatic ones, your Elizabeth Warren style, and your further left liberal ones who, by God, I want to abolish ICE right now. [SPEAKER_03]: And my thought is, OK, tell me how we do it. [SPEAKER_03]: If we could, if you've got the idea on how to do it, tell me how we do it, because I'll support it.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you can come up with legitimate plan for it, I'm back in the on this. [SPEAKER_00]: Great. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're on board because the plan that we've seen from elected Democrats so far is somewhere between full capitulation and giant pile, you know, like, like, Jurassic parks. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what anybody, okay, full capitulation is just let the Republicans do whatever they want to get.

[SPEAKER_00]: Full capitulation would be voting for what exists already and moving and. [SPEAKER_00]: Very Neville Chamberlain. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the House Democrats did that. [SPEAKER_03]: We saw the seven of them did that. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and a lot of them, we've already seen Swatzi in New York, Swatzi in New York saying, oh, I didn't know what it was. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Already seen people, it is moving so quickly. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think one of the things you correctly put in both the comments a minute ago, and in the email this afternoon, the news app, was, hey, this is moving quick, right. [SPEAKER_00]: And what I would like to remind you, as we're talking about what's next is, [SPEAKER_00]: This is moving quick because I think you forgot in the two minutes. [SPEAKER_00]: We're not done yet. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I do.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think for a lot of reasons, I don't think that the Trump administration is going to back down. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: You have said, and again, as we talked about earlier, I wish they would. [SPEAKER_03]: I wish they put their head over their ass on it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: they they're instinct is to continually double down even these shows of accountability don't really move the needle as you said a lot of that is to the miller and that's his mode he never gets down and that means that as bad as the numbers are for Trump today they are going to get worse I think as I've said a couple times I think he already seen the high water mark of Donald Trump's popularity in his second term I don't think we're going

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm proud of what we do it. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm getting there. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, let him speak. [SPEAKER_00]: And what I think you can do is you can demand a lot more than what Chris Murphy has done because if you say no church in schools, they'll do what they're already doing, which is getting people at bus stops. [SPEAKER_00]: And there are houses. [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

[SPEAKER_00]: There is no [SPEAKER_00]: There is no filing around the edges of this, Sean. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think people need to accept the blue no matter who cool aid when we are looking at a thing that is not done moving drastically. [SPEAKER_00]: So here's what we can do. [SPEAKER_00]: We can stop the funding until there's drastic, actual changes made to the restrictions for ICE and DHS.

[SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying ask for more than what [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely way mask for the world. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to be a little bit and let's do that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's here's when I think having a lot of history knowing your enemy seeing what they've done in the past and occasionally taking stock of some of their tactics. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look at what Republicans did.

[SPEAKER_00]: I made this joke in the in the break. [SPEAKER_00]: I said I'm going to talk to you about the mail. [SPEAKER_00]: I think what they did to the USPS is a great example of how you can completely hamstrang hamstring a government agency or what a government agency is now a, you know, semi-private service, which is make their money useless, say, okay, you've got to fund your stuff for 75 years. [SPEAKER_00]: You've got to do some things, nobody's ever done.

[SPEAKER_00]: Make ice and DHS and the intake, make the CBP, make the entire apparatus so hamstrung. [SPEAKER_00]: I want these [SPEAKER_03]: What Republicans have done to good pieces of government, but do a creative buckoes? [SPEAKER_00]: I would like to see a little bit more gumption from people who are watching the tsunami build and saying let's just make the smallest, most polite fancastle we can make. [SPEAKER_00]: And hope that it misses us somehow.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's the plan, guys. [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't. [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that kind of capitulating in advance, whether it's elected Democrats saying we're going to take whatever we can get, because Donald Trump still president.

[SPEAKER_00]: And [SPEAKER_00]: professional Democrats and I did include you in that business for for the time being Sean I'm saying well, you know, I mean saying we got it we got a we got to accept this I think that is the wrong [SPEAKER_03]: You still have an answer to the question, which is I said you say abolish ice. [SPEAKER_03]: How do you get to abolish ice? [SPEAKER_03]: What you said is great, and what you're saying is push for more than what Murphy is saying.

[SPEAKER_03]: Am I 100% agree? [SPEAKER_03]: Great. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's push for more than Murphy's saying. [SPEAKER_03]: However, how do you get to abolish ice? [SPEAKER_00]: And the example I think there is start doing what they did after the civil war.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have to go back about 150 years to get the example which I want, which is I want, I want Democrats now, and especially after they take the House and probably the Senate to be having hearing after hearing, after hearing about every single person who has been delayed for five seconds. [SPEAKER_03]: And I want every how do you abolish ice now? [SPEAKER_03]: How do you do it now? [SPEAKER_03]: Because the people I'm talking about Sean people are out there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He wouldn't. [SPEAKER_05]: No, he wouldn't. [SPEAKER_00]: He'd still have to sign the bill. [SPEAKER_00]: He'd still have to sign the bill. [SPEAKER_05]: He'd still have to sign the bill. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, you let him name the the length thing, of course, that he's shut down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't disagree. [SPEAKER_00]: I do think about messing with everything that that actually matters in this history. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I did it hundreds of Democrats have to play it exactly perfect. [SPEAKER_00]: Every time it rolls, we get nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: I am tired of it. [SPEAKER_00]: I am tired of it. [SPEAKER_00]: I am tired of it. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I am tired of it. [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I get you on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: you're saying we should push for more, push for more of what we want, and that's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: And I say, by God, absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: The house should have done that. [SPEAKER_03]: I was pissed that house Democrats didn't do that. [SPEAKER_03]: I was pissed that house. [SPEAKER_03]: Seven. [SPEAKER_06]: Nine. [SPEAKER_06]: All of them, just seven. [SPEAKER_06]: And what is backtracking on that?

[SPEAKER_03]: I was pissed that house Democrats as a whole when they were, you know, working on that kind of a thing that they didn't push for more saying that they weren't out there, talking about it more. [SPEAKER_06]: That was where the extra killing. [SPEAKER_03]: exactly, but they could have been doing more about this through what in November, December, and these kinds of things. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm saying, there's more they could have done.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's definitely more that Senate Democrats could do. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot that we can do to push the Senate Democrats, because that's where it's sitting now. [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, obviously it's probably giving them back to the house, one of the house gets back. [SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be a little bit of a delay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I get all of [SPEAKER_00]: as if to remind Republicans that we are going to have your nads in a vise very soon and swallowed by he's that you mess around the tighter it's going to get I really like to see an aggressive posture that doesn't want to make me throw up every morning and I get that I might have a governor swallel soon.

[SPEAKER_03]: uh... but you can you can do that um... i still i still like uh... uh... governor pritzker and uh... because he doesn't mess around with that type of stuff either uh... you know it look we absolutely should be we should be doing something that share jacobus is talked about for out in a how long now which is making like a yellow uh... what is it uh... campaign twenty twenty nine bill or whatever where we sit down and do a plan and be very aggressive about

[SPEAKER_00]: Everything about 20 new stuff that we need to think and you know what I think is gonna be a thing that's going to be the Linchpin of this and I'd love to talk about it in the next chapter. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, please Duns a thing I rarely want to talk about but I think we've got a big opening here I'm gonna drive one of those M-wraps. [SPEAKER_00]: They've got lying around my tree [SPEAKER_00]: We were talking about both of those.

[SPEAKER_00]: Although, look, it'll make it to keep beating you up, Sean.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_01]: Tuesday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: We have a ton of fun. [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't the last call already? [SPEAKER_03]: It is. [SPEAKER_03]: Good Lord. [SPEAKER_00]: Like a couple of people know that I'm just like this, okay? [SPEAKER_00]: There's this. [SPEAKER_00]: This is just how I am slow sober.

[SPEAKER_03]: We used to have animated discussions sometimes in the pit at Sirius XM, you and I, and some people would be like, [SPEAKER_03]: Are you guys okay? [SPEAKER_03]: We're fine. [SPEAKER_03]: We're good, but you know what we look like when we're good It's a huge action. [SPEAKER_05]: This is what democracy looks like. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: If you missed any of this show tonight, look the best thing you can do is subscribe to the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This... [SPEAKER_03]: I have to I have to say I know where we were we were talking off air about some of the the stuff that's been involved with how the Republicans really screwed the pooch on the way they've they've dealt with a second memo on this But I have to tip I didn't know if you saw in the news on tap Jared that the piece from Adon sir were and the other one from onemorecox I about how the people of Minnesota are just They have been they met the moment

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: They did. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: The right word shouting. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the two. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the behind the scenes look is, you know, I've always got all the tabs open. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the two that I've got open because I think those two, I mean, first of all, I don't think anyone other than maybe Jamel Bowie for me has captured the last 10 years, like Adam Server has.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So we're fantastic. [SPEAKER_00]: And Marie Cox's piece is just so. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's so damn funny because of just some of the light moments that it like the idea of, you know, these guys trying to disguise their cars by putting like queer bumper sticks like the just the word queer on it. [SPEAKER_00]: I love it so much because I was also wondering why I've seen a lot of student driver stickers and these guys are driving just fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: What's that about? [SPEAKER_00]: And then I read this piece and I was like, damn it! [SPEAKER_00]: I'm supposed to notice these things, also, together. [SPEAKER_03]: Also, honorary coaxies to live in the cities. [SPEAKER_03]: So she also, she went to high school and Lincoln, she was one of the competing high school. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's how I've noticed in high school.

[SPEAKER_03]: So she is the very first time that I saw her, my teenage boy brain, a couple of guys who were introducing me. [SPEAKER_03]: So the first, first thing I said was, [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, in my head was holy crap, she's hot and the second thing is I said because I just recognize Just seeing her and I'm like she is so blindingly intelligent. [SPEAKER_03]: She is going to kill you.

[SPEAKER_03]: She will cut your head off and eat the rest Sean was a cartoon wolf for about 30 years I kept that I kept that in because I knew that you say you show anything like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: She would have been like that's nice [SPEAKER_03]: you're down here that you were recording this oh she's well aware she's well aware of the the reactions of a lot of teenage guys back then and and I saw a lot and don't men now apparently oh god yeah and they still they still they try their hand and it's like just be nice to her she's great she's smart yes she's attractive but just be kind to her and you know she'll cut you

[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'd love she is she is she is the she we especially with words, but you get her hot with words and she will just cut somebody if you've ever seen anybody in person cut somebody down to size with words.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen her do it and yeah, the blood drain from somebody's face and I'm like [SPEAKER_03]: that's one of the reasons that I've always liked her and I was so glad later in life when I found out that she was doing the right professional writing and things because I'm like, oh, this is fun. [SPEAKER_03]: She's going to kill so many people metaphorically speaking.

[SPEAKER_00]: And she was, to move it out of the realm of metaphor, I'll just read one sentence from her piece that really stuck with me, which was, [SPEAKER_00]: Ask any survivor of domestic abuse. [SPEAKER_00]: Physical violence is the punctuation at the end of the sentence. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: I think what what she's able to write there and what we've all been feeling for the last 10 years.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean anyone who's dealt with childhood trauma, sex trauma, physical violence, trauma, financial trauma from anyone in your life. [SPEAKER_00]: you recognize, you've been able to pattern recognize what Donald Trump and everyone he surrounds himself with is from the very beginning. [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody had to put the connect the dots for you, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that details into the other point that I really want to make today, which is [SPEAKER_00]: I think they screwed up on guns. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans. [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans. [SPEAKER_00]: Republicans. [SPEAKER_00]: The Trump regime specific.

[SPEAKER_00]: Trump, cash-patel, the director of the FBI, everybody who is sounding the alarm and saying that Alex pretty deserved to die because he brought a gun to a protest have screwed up so badly because and they were all following Stephen Miller's direction on that. [SPEAKER_00]: which we've now known, Lou and Dowsky and Miller, and so what I think is, I think, I don't know which Democrat needs to do this, and I certainly would not vote for a Democrat who is going to do this.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think someone like Gavin Newsom should fall on this grenade in addition to all the other grenades, and then maybe eventually we can forgive him for his any sins. [SPEAKER_00]: But I think, [SPEAKER_00]: But I think the rhetorical point needs to be made, which is that if Republicans are saying that bringing a gun to a protest is enough, and if Republicans are also saying that the president of the United States can declare an emergency for any damn reason he pleases, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: guess who's going to get shot in their heads very quickly and often in the next administration i don't want to make that point and i don't know vote for someone who's going to make that point no do want a real piece of garbage democrat maybe your governor jodie

[SPEAKER_00]: To make that point to drive it to drive it into their skulls that something else could get driven into their skulls very quickly Because that's the point we need to make we need them to know that they're precious little Airsets, penises are online and I'd really like to know I think a lot of the second men that people Especially over the last few days [SPEAKER_03]: have finally figured it out. [SPEAKER_03]: There are, we've seen this. [SPEAKER_03]: I think we've all seen this.

[SPEAKER_03]: I know, Jody, you've seen this in Hollywood way too many times, where people who think they're in the end group, and then certain people get cut out and they go, you're cut out and then another kid and then all of a sudden. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is, it is, except [SPEAKER_03]: But when it comes to legislation, when it comes to governing, this is part of the Maga Coalition, and part of the reason the Maga Coalition is falling apart.

[SPEAKER_03]: is because Stephen Miller really in many ways, the driving force behind this, he's doing to everybody else where he feels was done to him in high school and he is cutting people out and he's now to the point where he's cutting people out of the Magda Coalition and he's cutting out those and this is not my term, because I don't care, but he's cutting out those obnoxious gun users, they're the

[SPEAKER_03]: People who always come in, they're always scruffy, and you've got to wear their damn t-shirts and not even clean ones, and they've got their guns sticking out of their belt, like a big old penis, and this is my perception of Miller's perception of gun owners. [SPEAKER_03]: I reasoned by why they wanted gender studies.

[SPEAKER_00]: The reason they've wanted gender studies eliminated from every curriculum by the way is because it would have cut to the core of exactly what this nonsense is so quickly and they don't want anyone else to know the truth. [SPEAKER_03]: That they're small and I don't just mean in height size, I mean they're just small people. [SPEAKER_03]: internally. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that with that way too, Johnny. [SPEAKER_03]: But he's holding your fingers up.

[SPEAKER_03]: He'll be close together. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, for those of you can. [SPEAKER_06]: I learned a friend of mine years ago was having sex with a guy and he was like, does that feel good? [SPEAKER_06]: She goes, it's in. [SPEAKER_03]: No buzz, because that's a true story. [SPEAKER_00]: I believe we're still talking about Sean and high school.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not the case, sir, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, no the guy same was Jerry, so we're just gonna go with poor Jerry Jerry, not Jerry, not Jerry, not Jerry, not Jerry, but now that the whole thing is even though you can tell is is he's picking off people that he doesn't like [SPEAKER_03]: And he doesn't like the second amendment folks. [SPEAKER_03]: He never has. [SPEAKER_03]: There are people within the core who are driving this and they're letting people go.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're letting people get run over by the bus as it were. [SPEAKER_03]: And this is where some of those people, this is the point in time where it's becoming more obvious, especially in this case, with the second amendment folks, who are like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I was a core person of Maga. [SPEAKER_03]: And now they're suddenly realizing that no, no, no, Alex Pretty was a gun owner too, and he wasn't Margaret.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they forget that liberals also have guns. [SPEAKER_03]: and independence of guns. [SPEAKER_03]: You got a lot of people. [SPEAKER_03]: We have we are the by by per capita. [SPEAKER_03]: We are the second most gun-owning nation in the world. [SPEAKER_06]: Which is ridiculous and I'm all about taking them all away, but that's a me thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: No, get rid of all of them. [SPEAKER_03]: But as far as I'm concerned, melt them down.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I know I know you agree with that, Jerry. [SPEAKER_03]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: But here's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: We also believe in the rule of law. [SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about this yesterday.

[SPEAKER_03]: it is weird for us on our side to be saying that you know what we find common cause with people like the second amendment folks because it is the rule you can have your guns and you know what whether we believe they should be at rallies or not and I personally don't think I don't think so but the law says you can have it great if you were responsible gun owner and you bring it great God bless people who are responsible gun owner that got murdered

[SPEAKER_03]: for having responsible members of the government with guns. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And all I can say is, let Kyle Rittenhouse come back out. [SPEAKER_00]: He did. [SPEAKER_00]: He did. [SPEAKER_00]: He's under in the next administration. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd love to find out. [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I just think that Democrats need to put. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that the, the, the, the, the the insinuation is there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want some national Democrats to really put it in sharply for people that this is a Republican administration who, who was, [SPEAKER_00]: not only by endorsed by the NRA, but by every law enforcement group that mattered a damn, and he's the one who is saying, has his FBI director saying, actually you shouldn't really bring your guns and if you do, it's we can kill you. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh no, Kyle Rittenhouse did come out apparently with a tweet or something saying nope.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, the guy we have to write against Trump now saying, you know, right, but this is, and I think it's even more, I think it's more important even that we make this point of it clear, which is, as you said, all the gun supporting groups, all the pro gun groups and most of the pro law enforcement groups, hey, back's Trump.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if you notice, he's going to sacrifice you like he sacrificed everybody else because when they come for one of us, they come for all of us, and if you don't think so, just look at what, what, what, what, what do you, what do you catch, but I'll just say, Jared, yeah, oh, if you bring your gun, yeah, they have a right to kill you. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, so did Chrissy know.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, and, and lots of other people in the administration, I do imagine, I really do imagine that in a couple of weeks or maybe a couple of months they're going to walk that back in a public area, but the damage will have been done, and there will be, there will be some really smart people who are in the libertarian and even conservative camps who look around and say, you know, we never had it this bad under Barack Obama.

[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Biden, and it's just it's crazy to me, but if your message is getting through to those crazies, yeah, and that's how it read it enough to know what it is. [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's saying something because those people do live in a different world they do a world of their own making that's why they have so many guns.

[SPEAKER_03]: You are not wrong, but yeah, it is a reminder that when it comes to the thing of we want to live in a nation of laws, we may not always agree with the folks next to us, but we want to make sure that they're taken care of, we're taken care of, and that nobody's out there just randomly from the government, especially killing us and getting away with it. [SPEAKER_03]: We want to talk to you. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we don't want to, here's my tax dollars, please kill me.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's no. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there have definitely been days when I felt it, but you know. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, we've all felt that right there again. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's your tags in there anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: Can you hang around for a little in the after hours? [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, fine, but only if I get to beat you up one more time. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah! [SPEAKER_00]: No beating me up. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we'll do a drinking contest. [SPEAKER_03]: You'll have some.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look at those feet. [SPEAKER_09]: Look at those feet. [SPEAKER_03]: And out. [SPEAKER_03]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get you some art. [SPEAKER_03]: For those of you who are listening on our great radio affiliates, look, join us over at the politics bar.com. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll do a little bit of after hours with Jared. [SPEAKER_03]: Tomorrow, I believe Bob Cesska's back in house. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, sir. [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see if we got a few other guests that can come in. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, join us tomorrow night. [SPEAKER_03]: In the Wednesday, Lee Hump Day. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you then. [SPEAKER_03]: The politics bar.

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