Chicago Rules July 31, 2025

[SPEAKER_10]: It's political. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you, radical. [SPEAKER_10]: Shotsmith Pearson, Show to Hamilton. [SPEAKER_07]: It's Thursday. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, I'm glad because tomorrow was Friday. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm also glad because there are some really good news today. [SPEAKER_07]: And in fact, when we get down at the bar tonight, I am going to go watch the Cold Air Show because VP Kamal Harris is on the Cold Air Show. [SPEAKER_07]: at a girl.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Also, there's some other really good news. [SPEAKER_07]: Democrats are finally standing up. [SPEAKER_07]: Other nations are finally standing up for Gaza. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, there are some bad stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: There always is in the news, but there is some good news today as well. [SPEAKER_07]: So we are glad, Jody and I are that you are hanging out here with us in the politics bar tonight on Thursday night.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, Ben. [SPEAKER_07]: You doing okay? [SPEAKER_07]: I'm doing okay. [SPEAKER_07]: It just did Bob show. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, you did Bob show earlier today with, uh, uh, was David there today? [SPEAKER_03]: Always. [SPEAKER_03]: He's there. [SPEAKER_03]: We're both there every Tuesday and Thursday. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I know, but some days, you know, David gets sick or he has work or something like that. [SPEAKER_07]: I, I, did he talk about his, he was, he was raving online about.

[SPEAKER_07]: He wrote this really fantastic piece about something and, and I'm like, I'm curious as to what it was because he didn't post a link to the piece. [SPEAKER_03]: He did write his song list for when Donald dies. [SPEAKER_03]: He did write that. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, maybe that was what he was thinking. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll have to, I'll have to reach out to him and ask. [SPEAKER_07]: That's kind of funny. [SPEAKER_07]: We do have John Fugelsang in later tonight, which is good.

[SPEAKER_07]: I do want to thank all of our great affiliates. [SPEAKER_07]: WCPT AMA-twenty, America-one radio in Atlanta. [SPEAKER_07]: AM-Nine-Fifty, Minneapolis, Saint Paul, the D.T. [SPEAKER_07]: or Dog Radio, Tri-City's area of Tennessee, and progressive voices radio, whatever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_07]: And of course, you know, we always thank everybody who's listening on a podcast, whatever you're listening at, whatever you're doing. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you, future people.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you people of the future future. [SPEAKER_07]: Remember you can subscribe to the podcast and get the ad free version at the politics bar dot com. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, so, Jody, the news of the day, it's weird to say that there is good news with respect to Gaza, because there are still lots of kids and families starving there. [SPEAKER_07]: It is, it's a horror show. [SPEAKER_07]: There's no joke.

[SPEAKER_07]: I've, you know, I've said I'm trying to reduce their are putting up some CBS videos, but they still have some great reporters. [SPEAKER_07]: Deborah Patta is over there and it's horrific. [SPEAKER_07]: You can see the video in the news on tap section today. [SPEAKER_07]: It's, it's kind of grotesque, but, you know, look, that's starvation. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what it does. [SPEAKER_07]: But so, so here's the good news. [SPEAKER_07]: Check this out.

[SPEAKER_07]: The Arab and Muslims states all twenty two states of the Arab League. [SPEAKER_07]: These are people who, you know, oftentimes they don't get along at all. [SPEAKER_07]: They were talking Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt for the first time ever have issued a joint call for Hamas to disarm as part of a two state solution. [SPEAKER_07]: They are literally telling Hamas it's enough. [SPEAKER_07]: We got to say the people.

[SPEAKER_03]: Which is bad for Hamas, because they are supported by these people. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like when you have the entire Arab League going, that's enough. [SPEAKER_07]: We're done. [SPEAKER_07]: You're done. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'm like that's, so that was kind of cool. [SPEAKER_07]: Also, Canada is joining France and the UK in recognizing, in saying that they didn't September at the UN annual meetings that they are going to recognize Palestine.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but only Canada is getting punished for that. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, Donnie's now saying, Oh, no, no, I'm going to punish him because I don't want to have a trade deal and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_07]: Of course, you know, Taco Man struck again today. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you saw that. [SPEAKER_03]: You did, Mexico. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, of course, God president, shine bound in Mexico.

[SPEAKER_07]: If you are listening just over the border in Mexico, Ola, and also you have a very good president down there because she's amazing every single time he calls her. [SPEAKER_07]: He calls and he's always like, [SPEAKER_07]: You know, because he breathes heavy, he always does that and he's all mad and he's huffing and he talks to shinebound. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what she says to him, but she must have just the most silver tongue, gold tongue, whatever you want to talk about it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Just wraps his dumb ass around her fingers. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Donald. [SPEAKER_07]: We need to, because he put a ninety-day pause on the tariffs to Mexico. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course he did, because that's what he always does. [SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, what is David just said it today? [SPEAKER_03]: What does Mexico favor famous for? [SPEAKER_03]: Tacos. [SPEAKER_07]: David's not even here in the bar and he's still right. [SPEAKER_07]: Just because I mean, you know, let's look.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's a taco Thursday, I guess. [SPEAKER_07]: That's just, you know, that the new tariffs are supposed to start tomorrow. [SPEAKER_07]: Although we'll we'll figure it out when we wake up tomorrow and see what's been signed. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And so according to a lot of this stuff is is that basically they're going to send letters to these countries saying this is what you owe. [SPEAKER_07]: They still haven't. [SPEAKER_07]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm laughing too. [SPEAKER_07]: But look, the whole thing is they're going to send letters out. [SPEAKER_07]: And then if they still, they never think that other people are able to act. [SPEAKER_07]: They never think that other people have actions, that other people have their own ability to control how things go. [SPEAKER_07]: So they're like, well, we're going to send out these tariff letters and they're just going to pay them.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, because I'm sure that there are nations who, you know, Trump and company will say, well, this is going to be the tariff and the other nation will go get in the finger. [SPEAKER_03]: And the other thing with his tariffs is that there are blanket to the countries and not to industries. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: So which is ineffective. [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't.

[SPEAKER_07]: brain going I place it because you're right on this black at tariffs don't work no they've been proven not to work many times they don't work and yet he's he's trying to be the the world's biggest bully and everybody's just laughing at him when he's saying that that [SPEAKER_03]: If the Congress in the Senate would like to do something to help bring industry back to these United States, then you give tax breaks to those companies.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if the people at all, etc. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, right. [SPEAKER_03]: If the people in control at the moment would maybe say, hi, make America great again by giving tax breaks to companies that manufacture in this country like we use. [SPEAKER_03]: to do.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, of course, it would it would end up looking something like, I don't know, the buildback better plans that you're Biden implemented, which, you know, that's it is so stupid, just the the the way that Trump has come in and destroyed things and the the the the tariffs and all the jacking around with the economy, uh, Proctor and Gamble PNG is formally announcing price hike.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's not like they haven't been doing shrink-flation because we all know they have been, but [SPEAKER_07]: They have formerly announced strike high price hikes, uh, because of the tariffs. [SPEAKER_07]: And of course, they say cautious shoppers, which shoppers being cautious. [SPEAKER_07]: They're being cautious because they don't know where the prices are going to be because of the tariffs. [SPEAKER_07]: It's all tied to the stupid ass tariffs.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: So I, uh, there was another key inflation measure that was released today. [SPEAKER_07]: You can see that article as well in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_07]: And it was not good because the prices are going up because of the [SPEAKER_07]: Darab's again. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I walked by this one gas station that is super expensive and it's a half a mile for my house.

[SPEAKER_03]: If people just drove a half mile, they would save like a dollar a gallon, but they're creeping up to six dollars again. [SPEAKER_07]: out in where you are in California six bucks creeping up again. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, it's it got it was way worse right after we reopened everything. [SPEAKER_03]: It was at that particular gas station. [SPEAKER_03]: It was over seven dollars. [SPEAKER_07]: She's Paul from Seattle, by the way.

[SPEAKER_07]: I listen to the voice mail when I came in a little bit before you hear he had a long discussion. [SPEAKER_07]: You'll have to listen to the voice mail about your your long walks. [SPEAKER_07]: He says there's a great book. [SPEAKER_07]: He's recommending by Richard Richard Paul Evans called the walk. [SPEAKER_07]: It's all about walking, and he says, oh, he loves that. [SPEAKER_07]: He says, oh, I'll call and talk again about Paul, take some other time. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what?

[SPEAKER_03]: Walking is for me, and I only, I only walked eight miles today. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I was a little, my hip started to hurt. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so, but it, it's, there's, I mean, I'm listening usually to Richard Xu and then Stephanie, when I leave. [SPEAKER_03]: And, um, so I, you know, I walk about and sometimes I just don't realize I've walked because it's just, it's, it's amazing.

[SPEAKER_07]: an old friend who um i we've lost touch with each other which is sad but uh when i live back in Nebraska uh between you know different things i was in college and then out of college and and we used to go out and walks all the time and we would just you know walk and talk kind of like thinking you know say in the west wing which is a great show sorry drift lesson blue value wrong on that [SPEAKER_07]: But so, you know, and we would do walk a talk.

[SPEAKER_07]: Only we would do the same thing. [SPEAKER_07]: We would just we talk about all kinds of subjects. [SPEAKER_07]: We'd get into, you know, every different corner of a subject. [SPEAKER_07]: And we'd end up, you know, we'd be middle of the night like one I am. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, two, three, four miles from where we started. [SPEAKER_07]: And we're like, oh, crap.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Like that scene in Johnny Dangerously, when he meets Mary Lou Henners character in the all of a sudden are in a field. [SPEAKER_07]: Although, you know, I, I, I would be anywhere with Mary Lou Hunter. [SPEAKER_07]: That's just me. [SPEAKER_03]: She's a lovely lady. [SPEAKER_07]: I bet she is. [SPEAKER_07]: I bet she is. [SPEAKER_07]: That's, I, I store room, you know, my, my young self watching taxi and being like, hello.

[SPEAKER_03]: And she's got a weird memory. [SPEAKER_03]: She can remember everything. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, I've heard that she's got, what's it called? [SPEAKER_07]: A diedetic memory where she can literally everything. [SPEAKER_03]: Which is great if you're an actor. [SPEAKER_07]: fantastic if you're an actor, but you know also if you just in general, although I would have to admit that that could be difficult if you want to have a an argument with her because she will remember every little.

[SPEAKER_03]: I met her years ago when she worked with my mom and then I we saw Lonnie and I saw her at a nightclub here six or seven years ago. [SPEAKER_03]: She was a high jodied so nice to see you again. [SPEAKER_07]: And you're like, okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I said who I was. [SPEAKER_03]: I just knew I know who you are. [SPEAKER_03]: I met you and she told and I'm like, yes, I got a dietic memory. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I remember meeting her because she's famous, but well, right.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's cool. [SPEAKER_07]: It's cool. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's cool that she remembers you as far as that goes. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, how's your mom? [SPEAKER_03]: She could not have been nicer. [SPEAKER_03]: If you get an opportunity to see her perform, because she's a singer, she's got an amazing show, she's funny, obviously, as she can sing, and it's a great show. [SPEAKER_07]: That's awesome. [SPEAKER_07]: That is awesome.

[SPEAKER_07]: There is fun news out there, folks. [SPEAKER_07]: Like I said, we started with some of the ugly news that said news. [SPEAKER_07]: The reason I mentioned Paul and Seattle giving you a book recommendation is I have another book recommendation. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a brand new book. [SPEAKER_07]: I believe you. [SPEAKER_07]: You've probably heard of the author. [SPEAKER_07]: Her name is former vice president, Kamal Harris. [SPEAKER_07]: I've heard of her.

[SPEAKER_07]: She's got a brand new book called, uh, hundred and seven days. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to buy that and read that. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: And the good thing is it comes out September, twenty-third after John Fugal Singh's book. [SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, John is not directly competing with Kamal Harris. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would be a tough thing to compete with.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, but if the fight were Kamala Harris versus John Fugel saying, look, John, I love you. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll have you hearing, he's coming in the bar later tonight, guys, so that'd be fine. [SPEAKER_07]: But I gotta say, he may be listening on the way in and I'm telling you, John, I'm sorry, but I would put my money on Kamala, just, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that book's going to be a bestseller.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think so too and it should be it should be there and they're not going to have to do any of the cheating kind of garbage that Republicans do to get their best seller books where they are not really best seller because they're quote unquote think tanks which are just basically lobbying shops they can shove money and try to buy elections Donald think there's an actual tank with thinkers in it. [SPEAKER_07]: I wouldn't be surprised.

[SPEAKER_07]: These idiots, they cannot win unless they cheat. [SPEAKER_07]: And that is what they are trying to do. [SPEAKER_07]: But it is really good to see that Democrats are stepping up in the redistricting wars. [SPEAKER_07]: That's one of my favorite things right now because Democrats are actually, they're doing the right thing to [SPEAKER_07]: to stand up to this time.

[SPEAKER_07]: So first of all, if you didn't know that the Texas House Republicans are there having a session very shortly on how to gerrymandering and they released their new map. [SPEAKER_07]: And it's [SPEAKER_07]: Look, we've got to hit the break so we got to pay some bills here. [SPEAKER_07]: We will talk about the map. [SPEAKER_07]: We will talk about some of our Congress members actually went too Austin today.

[SPEAKER_07]: I came Jeffries went to Austin and we'll talk about this redistricting wars because it is it's time to go Chicago rules. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's see. [SPEAKER_07]: What else do we have? [SPEAKER_07]: So we have John Fuegel saying we have the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_07]: We do, which is very much like a sailor. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you know, it's like a sailor or a pirate's.

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[SPEAKER_07]: All righty, so we're going to talk about the redistricting wars, the gerrymandering wars, whatever you want to say it. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm pretty geeked up about how Democrats are starting to respond on this. [SPEAKER_07]: We were talking about this when we first came in. [SPEAKER_07]: Long and short for pollkins for the longest time. [SPEAKER_07]: Democrats have been trying to play by the rules. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's it's understandable.

[SPEAKER_07]: Look, it would be best if everybody had a nonpartisan redistricting commission that wants to be fair. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's been more Democrats get elected.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, but that's, that's just, it is, that's why Republicans don't want to do that because, you know, they think as I've said before, I don't, if Republicans are forced to fight fair, they can, I've mentioned this before when I worked for Laura Ingram, and I made sure that the audio, just the audio clips were not spun, they were not spun, they were not taken out of context, and it made it nearly impossible for her to get behind Donald Trump, which to me says,

[SPEAKER_07]: You can't get behind on Trump unless you are lying either of your audience or yourself. [SPEAKER_07]: Right, both. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: They can't. [SPEAKER_07]: They can't be who they are if they were honest. [SPEAKER_07]: True. [SPEAKER_07]: So we know they're alive just because of that. [SPEAKER_07]: And if you checked out in the news on tap today, we've got some articles.

[SPEAKER_07]: It shows there is a great map from the Texas Tribune, great great media organization. [SPEAKER_07]: And it shows how the House Republicans in Texas. [SPEAKER_07]: are basically doing Donald Trump's bidding. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you got this or not, Jody, but the US House representatives who are from Texas, who are Republicans, they're not necessarily on board with Trump doing this. [SPEAKER_03]: They know better. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, because they know right now, okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: So in Texas, the map in Texas right now, Republicans hold twenty five of Texas thirty eight house seats. [SPEAKER_03]: And they already own that. [SPEAKER_07]: So basically, yeah, Trump carried twenty seven of those districts in twenty twenty four. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: But what they want to do is change this. [SPEAKER_07]: so that it will be under the proposed new lines. [SPEAKER_07]: Thirty districts would have gone to Trump.

[SPEAKER_07]: By only about ten percentage points and and that's that's the key is they want to change it so it's basically Democrats have having eight representatives have five or something. [SPEAKER_07]: No thirteen. [SPEAKER_03]: Well they're getting rid of all the stuff that's in the urban and suburb in areas.

[SPEAKER_07]: Here's the reason that the Republicans in the U.S. [SPEAKER_07]: House from Texas do not want that is, it takes right now that the margin of victory for some of these folks, the base bias. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a smallest Donald's penis. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, no, no, no, it's the other way around. [SPEAKER_07]: We're talking about different numbers on this, but the base bias that they go in with. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: God, what's I'm trying towards called?

[SPEAKER_07]: But there is a political term for it, and I cannot remember it right now. [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know it, so I cannot help you. [SPEAKER_07]: That's okay. [SPEAKER_07]: DW score, maybe. [SPEAKER_07]: Basically, it means the average bias based on the votes of the last election. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And in most of Texas, you're looking at double digits.

[SPEAKER_07]: Fifteen, twenty, thirty, fifty percent chance of it being [SPEAKER_07]: But the new map instead of doing that would take it down to nine or ten points, which means so instead of having a safe seat where they're there ahead of every Democrat before any Democrat gets in the gets in the race by twenty points, they're looking at nine or ten points.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's that you need money to buy that and you actually have to campaign when you're up twenty five before even the other person gets their shoes on right I mean that's that's the equivalent of being if you think of a track race it's half to two thirds of the way around the track before the other person even begins absolutely and that's why Republicans like gerrymandering so they can basically steal the elections right

[SPEAKER_07]: So, Democrats today, some of the actual house Democrats went there. [SPEAKER_07]: Lizzy Fletcher is she's from Texas, and she had a few fewer words. [SPEAKER_07]: Let me put this up in the DVR here. [SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of ways to fight, but one of the most important things is that people need to know what's happening. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget that Governor Abbott just put this on the call for the special session.

[SPEAKER_00]: After he called the special session the first place after the floods in the Hill Country, he snuck it in in the dark of night, and they've taken it up and rushed through hearings. [SPEAKER_00]: The thousands of people who shut up to testify hadn't even seen a map. [SPEAKER_00]: Now they've called hearings for this Friday and they're going to take public testimony as far as we know for maybe one day and that's it and try to rush these maps through.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so the most important thing that we can do right now is let people know it's happening because people across our state hate what is happening. [SPEAKER_07]: Indeed. [SPEAKER_07]: Most most Americans hate Jerry Manor. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I want to pick my representative. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want them to pick me. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: That's exactly how it should be. [SPEAKER_07]: Voter should pick who their elected officials are.

[SPEAKER_07]: The elected officials should not pick who their voters are going to be. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: But that's what Republicans want. [SPEAKER_07]: Because they know if they have to be honest and fair, they're going to lose. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why in California, it's so democratically. [SPEAKER_03]: leaning, it's because we have an independent commission. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And, and that's how we redraw districts.

[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of people who have said that what Democrats have done is it is laudable and it is admirable, but it is not working tactically and strategically stupid. [SPEAKER_07]: I agree. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely dumb. [SPEAKER_03]: My old co-host on my old show, David Chockett said that he goes, we should Jerry Manor. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, it's bad. [SPEAKER_03]: He goes, no, but we shouldn't. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I know, but it's bad. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it is, it is now that.

[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm down with that. [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely. [SPEAKER_07]: Democrats in New York in California and in Illinois specifically have said, and they have already started running some tests. [SPEAKER_07]: They've floated some different things. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, there are different state laws that would make it difficult, including certain constitutional things. [SPEAKER_07]: But they've already started to look into it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: And Democrats who are in the know in those states have said that basically, yeah, it Democrats if they wanted to because the Democrats have an overwhelming amount of power in those dry and states could do the exact same thing that Republicans in Texas and now Florida, Governor DeSantis wants to do it too. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, DeSantis is saying, he's threatening a census redo.

[SPEAKER_07]: which is basically we're only going to count the people that we like to go for us. [SPEAKER_03]: Which he could lose a seat in the house if he does that. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, and that's not only that, this is the same argument that the Republicans who are in the U.S. [SPEAKER_07]: House in Texas, that's why they didn't want to touch this either. [SPEAKER_07]: The same thing because if you mess with it too much, it's like a pinball game. [SPEAKER_07]: You can tilt it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Once you try to cheat too much, even the system itself says, I'm sorry, but that is way too freaking far. [SPEAKER_03]: I also still have an issue with the fact that we only have four hundred and thirty-five people in the House of Representatives because California should get more. [SPEAKER_07]: Jodi is right, but not only that other states, other places we've talked about this solution before with Deb who called in. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Here a couple weeks back.

[SPEAKER_07]: Look, the solution is multi-member districts and a bigger Congress, a bigger house. [SPEAKER_07]: We can't wait. [SPEAKER_03]: Put seats in because people go there. [SPEAKER_03]: that just overlook it. [SPEAKER_03]: So there are sheets. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And it should be proportional. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, there's no kind of ways to remodel a physical building, but we should absolutely make this proportional as well.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you are in a state where there is basically, uh, forty five percent of the people vote, uh, Democratic, forty five percent of the people vote Republican and the rest vote independent, then that should be the representation for you. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's so English. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's also known as fair. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's. [SPEAKER_07]: And and and Republicans here that and go. [SPEAKER_03]: But regardless, I just think that we should expand the house.

[SPEAKER_07]: you're right to represent the rest of the because it's bigger now than it was when it started at four thirty five we don't have the right number of representatives representing us know I would imagine some of the smaller states would like to and not just one well looking and they should they should have them and you know if you're going to have in a small state like that and you've got the percentages you should have a democrat in a republic for just two [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: That represents you. [SPEAKER_03]: Like this one has just one or Wyoming. [SPEAKER_07]: One of the two, I think Wyoming just has one. [SPEAKER_07]: I think, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I think more than one. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, and we need to get rid of the territories too. [SPEAKER_07]: We need, we've got seven territories including DC that need to be made states. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: I need one of these. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you.

[SPEAKER_07]: No more secondary status that way. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you on that. [SPEAKER_07]: I, Mark Elias does some good things him and his law firm. [SPEAKER_07]: I also have some issues with certain things he does, but he was on with Brian Tyler Cohen, and he had the exact right take on this here. [SPEAKER_04]: I got this up on the DVR Republicans don't care about democracy. [SPEAKER_04]: Republicans support Donald Trump because in authoritarian.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they will abuse every norm. [SPEAKER_04]: They will violate every tradition. [SPEAKER_04]: They will seek to weaponize every law, every practice, everything that they can in order to gain power for the sake of having power. [SPEAKER_04]: And they are not going to be deterred from doing that. [SPEAKER_04]: If they turn a grotesque map into an obscene map in Texas and our responses, OK, well, we found four or five seats of our own.

[SPEAKER_04]: They will take there as a win, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Because they've done what they want. [SPEAKER_04]: And then, as you say, they will move on to Missouri. [SPEAKER_04]: They'll move on to Florida. [SPEAKER_04]: They'll move on to Ohio. [SPEAKER_04]: They will move on to Utah. [SPEAKER_04]: They will move on to, you know, wherever will be their next place. [SPEAKER_04]: And they will not be deterred.

[SPEAKER_04]: What we need to do is we need to recognize that if we want to stop the slide of democracy, we as Democrats, we as people in the pro-democracy movement need to tell them [SPEAKER_04]: that if they take five seats, we're gonna put thirty seats on the table, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Because they need to understand that they will not just be parody if things go against them, but actually if they guess wrong and this winds up escalating, they could wind up on the severe losing side.

[SPEAKER_04]: So when people say to me, don't bring a knife to a gunfight. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even wanna bring a gun to a gunfight. [SPEAKER_04]: I want to bring something more than I want to bring missiles to the gunfight. [SPEAKER_04]: I want to bring hangar days to the gunfight because I want the underside to understand that not only are we going to fight as hard as them, but we are going to fight smarter than them. [SPEAKER_04]: And we're going to fight harder than them.

[SPEAKER_04]: Look, Republicans don't care. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Joe wash said this on Stephanie show this morning. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, finally. [SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, finally. [SPEAKER_07]: It's one of the things that Joe Walsh has been saying. [SPEAKER_07]: It's one of the things that he said when we had him here in the bar initially was people like him who are joining the Democratic Party are bringing some very unique skills.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: And one of those skills is the ruthlessness. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that Republicans have. [SPEAKER_07]: And yes, we need that. [SPEAKER_07]: So for those people who were like, Joe, we don't need Joe Wells. [SPEAKER_07]: No, we actually don't. [SPEAKER_03]: We do need people like him because he knows how to fight.

[SPEAKER_07]: he knows and he knows exactly at what level of ruthlessness that the republicans will fight and he knows how to tell democrats look you know it's it's it's the untouchables quotes you and I were talked about this one to uh... you know that they said one of yours to the hospital we said one of these to the more exactly i mean it's that you want to play ball let's go let's go you'll be under the prison when we're done you know and people go oh my god and i go

[SPEAKER_07]: It is long past time to stop clutching the perils on this kind of stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: No, we, we need to throw down at this point because it's fascism versus democracy. [SPEAKER_07]: It's important. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, it is. [SPEAKER_07]: It's extreme, and it doesn't mean that look, most of the discussion that's going on in states like New York and California in Illinois, about if they have to, you know, read Jerry, if they have to Jerry Mandarin, so we do the same thing to them.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're also going to set it up so that when states like Texas put in an independent commission to set up their seats, [SPEAKER_07]: Well, then that'll automatically change in places like California, too. [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, and cool with that says when you want to put down your arms, we'll put down hours, but until then, let's mount up and let's go. [SPEAKER_07]: You feel it froggy? [SPEAKER_07]: Let's jump. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's go.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the electoral college thing that they have set up. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, the outside thing where if enough states agree to the compact. [SPEAKER_03]: And California, a bunch of blue states are like, cool, we're good with that. [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because look, I'm sorry, but the Electoral College is it is a relic of slavery that needs to be gotten rid of. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's in the Constitution, so it's difficult.

[SPEAKER_07]: Difficult but not impossible and there will be someday when we should get rid of it because you know what screw that when I first learned about it when I was a kid like in fifth or sixth grade I was like that doesn't seem right and you are correct Jody is right. [SPEAKER_03]: I was like nine or ten when I learned about that. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like that doesn't seem right [SPEAKER_07]: Look, the funny thing is is that when even kids look at it and say that and go, that ain't right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Look, it's it's simple. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a simple set of fairness and that that just ain't fair. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it ain't fair. [SPEAKER_07]: Nope, it ain't fair. [SPEAKER_07]: That's how it goes. [SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry if I sent it like a frangelo there for a second, which hopefully maybe we'll get them on maybe they're working right now. [SPEAKER_07]: So, okay. [SPEAKER_07]: We got a juggle schedules.

[SPEAKER_07]: Look, we're working to get people in. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll try to get him in this week next week. [SPEAKER_07]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: It is summertime. [SPEAKER_03]: We have Kimberly next week though. [SPEAKER_07]: Ooh, we love Kimberly. [SPEAKER_03]: This sexy, Kimberly Johnson. [SPEAKER_07]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, we also have something else that's very sexy to drink of the day. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, if you like wrong, [SPEAKER_03]: That is a gift if you really like Rome.

[SPEAKER_07]: We got that drink of the day coming up. [SPEAKER_07]: We will do that in the next segment. [SPEAKER_07]: John Figuosang coming to the bar tonight as well. [SPEAKER_07]: It's all part of your Thursday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: It's even. [SPEAKER_07]: It's Thursday. [SPEAKER_07]: We hope that you have had an excellent week so far.

[SPEAKER_07]: You got one more work day to go unless of course you're on third shift and you start a little bit later and then you've got two more work days to go, which we're really sorry about. [SPEAKER_07]: But it is heading towards the end of the week. [SPEAKER_07]: which is a very good thing because, you know, you might be tired. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, if you missed some of the show, you were tired, you were doing something else, you could always subscribe at thepoliticsbar.com.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I was mentioning this to you earlier tonight. [SPEAKER_07]: So I woke up this morning. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm pretty good about not necessarily needing an arm. [SPEAKER_07]: You were telling me that you don't, you haven't even learned years. [SPEAKER_03]: The last time an alarm woke me up, I was working for Stephanie. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And it woke me up at like one thirty in the morning.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, right, you have that that sharp intake of breath and you kind of right. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm I'm absolutely because that's the late alarm, right? [SPEAKER_03]: because I should have been up at midnight. [SPEAKER_03]: So there was a whole thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Great. [SPEAKER_03]: It's super slept in, but prior to that, the last time I had jobs where I had to get up at a certain time where I had to be at one job at seven thirty in the morning. [SPEAKER_07]: So alarm.

[SPEAKER_03]: right now it's just I wake up you got used to it you got you that's you're starting college it started in high school and it just was like okay I have to get up at six so I got up at five forty five or if I did if I did the same time enough [SPEAKER_07]: And it has been for a while now that that I have been doing a little bit different. [SPEAKER_07]: If I get it at the same time, I don't necessarily need it.

[SPEAKER_07]: If I set the alarm just at hair like five or ten minutes beyond where I should, then I'll be fine because I wake up before it, then I could shut it off and then I'll wake up my wife and whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: This morning though, my body wakes me up. [SPEAKER_07]: about twenty five minutes before the alone. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can't go back to sleep. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: You're right.

[SPEAKER_07]: My, my body was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm like, okay, kids, I have an hour. [SPEAKER_03]: I got, okay, you know, squirming my brain and everything, you know, get the cat. [SPEAKER_03]: And I keep just looking at the clock going thirty minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: Give me thirty minutes, kids. [SPEAKER_07]: Just right. [SPEAKER_03]: You know. [SPEAKER_07]: But when it's when it's twenty five minutes before the alarm goes off, you know that you can't really go back to sleep.

[SPEAKER_07]: You're not going to get anything good. [SPEAKER_07]: And I try to be respectful of my wife because I don't want to, you know, because especially on days like today, she gets to sleep in some days during the week. [SPEAKER_07]: She gets to go into her work a little bit later. [SPEAKER_07]: So I try to let her sleep in. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to be a jerk about it. [SPEAKER_07]: So, you know, whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: So I got up.

[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm a little more tired this evening just because I'm like, you know, the, the body was pup, pup, pup, let's go. [SPEAKER_07]: So we got out, you know, I walked my dog and and it was fine. [SPEAKER_07]: But it's also one of the things where you're going [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because I I was so mad that I just [SPEAKER_07]: that my body did that. [SPEAKER_07]: My brain was like, you couldn't give me like, fifteen more minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to my world.

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_07]: It was my body was being a pirate today at hijacked the rest of me. [SPEAKER_07]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: But look, we do have a good drink for pirates today. [SPEAKER_07]: If you happen to be a pirate or a sailor or former sailor like me today's drink of the day, [SPEAKER_07]: It's good. [SPEAKER_07]: We had a special grug here. [SPEAKER_07]: Was it last week? [SPEAKER_07]: That was a couple of weeks ago.

[SPEAKER_07]: Two weeks ago from one of you folks here in the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: But we did a specific, we did a different grug today. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a navy grug. [SPEAKER_07]: Do you want to tell that the history on this one? [SPEAKER_07]: Because it's kind of fun. [SPEAKER_03]: It's today's black top day. [SPEAKER_07]: Black Tott Day. [SPEAKER_07]: We're not talking like cute adorable small black child who comes up in plays and laughs because I have one of those in the building here.

[SPEAKER_07]: The apartment building. [SPEAKER_07]: He's very cute. [SPEAKER_07]: He's very adorable little man. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: There's there's a black Tott in the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_03]: He's the head. [SPEAKER_07]: He's the head.

[SPEAKER_07]: He's the head [SPEAKER_03]: it happened in nineteen seventy okay okay so in for three hundred fifteen years starting in sixteen fifty five the year that I was born or maybe Francis Calier I'm not sure Francis Calier maybe but she don't look she don't look like a day pass you know she was born in nineteen eighty five no they the joke is how old are you with her all the time

[SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, like she's magic she grew her magic stuff, you know, she's good black girl magic so but basically in starting in sixteen fifty five the royal British Navy supply their sailors with a date daily right ration of rum. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, they chose rum because it didn't grow algae [SPEAKER_07]: That makes sense. [SPEAKER_07]: You're going to be out on ships for a long period of time. [SPEAKER_03]: Water and water and yeah, yeah, one especially.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it became known as the daily taught. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I got at the daily taught the daily ration of rum exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: And so the end is marked as the black taught day because they ended it. [SPEAKER_07]: So, so for three hundred and fifteen years, if you were in the Royal British Navy, you got an allotment of Rome every single day. [SPEAKER_07]: That explains why a lot of drunks were in the Navy and the British. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what the whole, you know.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yo ho ho, and a bottle of rust. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: Wow. [SPEAKER_07]: Damn. [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: So that explains Black Todd today. [SPEAKER_07]: So what, what is the Navy grug? [SPEAKER_07]: What, how do we, how do we make that kind of thing? [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: You need a pre chilled glass of a double old fashioned glass. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's got to be a double.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of slightly bigger, not quite a high ball glass, but it's kind of in the middle. [SPEAKER_07]: Got it. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you need a shaker with ice. [SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about before ice for the drink. [SPEAKER_07]: So shaker for the ice for the shaker ice for the drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Now what you require for the rum? [SPEAKER_03]: is two ounces of navy rum, which is at least fifty four point five percent alcohol. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's the good.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's the really good. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's not eighty proof. [SPEAKER_03]: It's more than eighty proof, actually. [SPEAKER_03]: It's slightly more than eighty proof, because eighty proof means forty percent alcohol, just delaying now. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what I was thinking. [SPEAKER_07]: I was like doing the math in my head there. [SPEAKER_03]: Ever clears a hundred proof, which means it's just pure alcohol. [SPEAKER_03]: So this is like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is insane. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, those are the good stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: So two ounces of navy room. [SPEAKER_03]: That's a kid's no more of this. [SPEAKER_03]: One drink children. [SPEAKER_03]: A half an ounce of lime juice. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: We would like freshly squeezed, but whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: Got it. [SPEAKER_03]: After you have that room, you won't need the lime juice. [SPEAKER_03]: Any, I'm kidding.

[SPEAKER_03]: A half an ounce of simple syrup, basically. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: One and a half ounces of water, which is okay. [SPEAKER_07]: You got to cut rum that that's wrong with something. [SPEAKER_03]: I think two dashes of bitters and we have to link to that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very specific type of bitter and a line wedge as we know because you have to garnish a drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Having been a bartender for like ten minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: If you go on, I should drink.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, first off. [SPEAKER_03]: You got to have a rum and coke is one thing but a cube of Libre is another thing. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the same drink but a cube of Libre has a different garnish. [SPEAKER_07]: That makes sense. [SPEAKER_03]: It's exactly the same drink. [SPEAKER_07]: And also you can charge more for it. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Because it sounds fun. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So just letting you know what garnish means.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So you pour all the ingredients into a shaker and then shake until chilled. [SPEAKER_03]: We've done that before. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you strain it into the ice filled old fashion glass. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you garnish with the lime wedge. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're a pirate like I was when I got my [SPEAKER_03]: I had to wear a patch on my eye at one point. [SPEAKER_03]: Why did you have to wear a patch on your eye?

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so this is adorable. [SPEAKER_03]: We, uh, Lonnie and I were this old singer years ago, gosh. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, the singer singer for the band that he was in. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, long to different band. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, this guy Mark, we went to a party in. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say Korea time, but I'm wrong. [SPEAKER_03]: But we went far. [SPEAKER_07]: You went to a party, it was a ways away.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And so we're all this party and there was just adorable Labrador dog. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm a dog person or an animal person. [SPEAKER_03]: And so this dog, I was playing ball with the dog. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And at one point the dog went to kind of touch my face, basically, and got my eye.

[SPEAKER_03]: scratch your eye accidentally poor baby and and we're supposed to go to like another party or go to the whiskey or something it was just like yeah you went into go to like and I was like honey my I wouldn't stop tearing it was bad and so I went to we used to have a hospital not far from my house so I just walked over there and I said help and they're like oh yeah you're going to need this ointment that ointment and we're going to have to patch your eye this was two thousand one scratch cornea

[SPEAKER_03]: There's just two thousand one now, or vividly. [SPEAKER_03]: It was two thousand one. [SPEAKER_03]: That's where it happened. [SPEAKER_03]: And so I literally, I can see, so it didn't hurt me badly. [SPEAKER_03]: But I literally had to wear a patch for like two weeks. [SPEAKER_07]: Damn. [SPEAKER_03]: Just to keep the eye closed so that, you know, I could heal. [SPEAKER_03]: And I had to put this awful gel. [SPEAKER_03]: It was terrible. [SPEAKER_03]: So yes, I was a pirate.

[SPEAKER_07]: Which, you know, or at least you, you were looking like you. [SPEAKER_03]: I looked like a pirate. [SPEAKER_03]: I looked like a pirate. [SPEAKER_07]: I actually was a pirate. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, if you missed any of the drink of the day, if you missed, if you missed the story, you can get it on the podcast here, because we're telling all kinds of fun stories.

[SPEAKER_07]: But if you missed the drink of the day, remember, you could subscribe to the drink of the day at the politics bar.com. [SPEAKER_07]: So I was kind of a pirate, that's part of how my radio name story, how I got the name Sean Smith, because I started as being Sean Silver Smith, because I would burn CDs back when a lot of people, when that was kind of an early thing, whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: I've done that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but this was like, you know, I mean, this was ninety mid-ninies somewhere in there. [SPEAKER_07]: And I was, you know, Robin songs off because I already knew you could stick the CD in the computer. [SPEAKER_07]: You take the songs off and then you can put them on another CD because I just thought of it. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like a mixed tape, which is technically piracy. [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't want to know how many audio tapes I have. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I'm sure.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure, but yes. [SPEAKER_07]: So pirates, yes, pirates are among us even here in the bar, just saying. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, back to the news on tap of the day after all, this is the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: So some some good news, I think, in elections. [SPEAKER_07]: Not only is Kamala back, obviously tonight on Colbert got a new book coming out. [SPEAKER_07]: She did formally announce that she will not be running for the California governor.

[SPEAKER_07]: You mentioned that on last night show, which [SPEAKER_07]: I know people are still discussing it. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, look, I didn't think she was going to run for the governor. [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't either. [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't either. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: See, you're not in the same boat on that, because I'm like, she's not going to run for governor.

[SPEAKER_07]: When you've been vice president, when you've run for president twice, you are not going to step back and run for freaking governor. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I mean, she's tired. [SPEAKER_03]: She has to start now. [SPEAKER_07]: She was, but I think I think all of this is signaling that she's really for photos again. [SPEAKER_07]: I think she's I think she is and I think she's getting back in the fight and I'm damn glad she is because I'm a failure.

[SPEAKER_07]: So and hopefully she will have somebody nice in New York City. [SPEAKER_07]: Zoron Mamdeny and another poll comes out. [SPEAKER_07]: He has a seventeen point lead with Jewish voters in New York which is fantastic. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody thought that wasn't going to happen. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, all of all of the Pundit class and yeah, the Pundit class, a lot of these folks couldn't count their eyeballs and get the same number twice.

[SPEAKER_07]: What did they have in my patch or not? [SPEAKER_02]: True. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, just saying so you know politics news. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, we've got it. [SPEAKER_07]: No, it is not all bad. [SPEAKER_07]: There is more politics news mix some good some bad. [SPEAKER_07]: We will talk about more of that for the news on tap. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll draw a few few rounds for that coming up.

[SPEAKER_07]: And of course John Fugels saying he's coming in we got some [SPEAKER_07]: drinks for him some rounds of news, talk and drinks for John as well. [SPEAKER_07]: And for you, let go, freshen up, down the hall to the left, down the hall to the right. [SPEAKER_07]: If you need to, uh, just remember, uh, we aim to please, you aim to please. [SPEAKER_07]: Jodie shaking her head vigorously. [SPEAKER_07]: Please. [SPEAKER_07]: So, exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: Don't make us clean it up.

[SPEAKER_07]: Look, go, come back. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be here. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a politics bar in a Thursday night. [SPEAKER_07]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Good evening, Jody. [SPEAKER_07]: Or should I say good evening again? [SPEAKER_07]: Cause we're already here for hour. [SPEAKER_03]: Hello, good evening. [SPEAKER_07]: Wait, well, I had to go in the back and clean some glasses do some things.

[SPEAKER_07]: Um, I don't know what you're doing out here talking to people. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm guessing. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's getting ice back into the. [SPEAKER_03]: Ah, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Very well. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's, it is, it is a working bar here. [SPEAKER_07]: We work. [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, so we hope you do as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and we hope you are now. [SPEAKER_07]: enjoying things after work or maybe before work depends. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't care what your shift is.

[SPEAKER_07]: Look, you can listen on all kinds of great affiliates. [SPEAKER_07]: Can you can listen on the podcast any time a day? [SPEAKER_07]: If you are listening on affiliate, thank you very much. [SPEAKER_07]: If you're listening in America, one radio in Atlanta or AM-Nine-Fifty in Minneapolis, St. [SPEAKER_07]: Paul, maybe you're listening on the detour talk radio in Tennessee or WCPT AM-A-Twenty Chicago or progressive voices radio worldwide.

[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, thank you wherever you are listening. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, news on tap. [SPEAKER_07]: Like I said, some of us, we had some fun stuff and some not so great stuff in the first hour because news is that way, it's mixed. [SPEAKER_07]: Republicans are doing stupid things again. [SPEAKER_07]: They have, I remember where I said it was a comedian who did the whole Jihad on everything. [SPEAKER_07]: I finally remember who it was.

[SPEAKER_07]: It was Eddie Isard. [SPEAKER_07]: I love him so much. [SPEAKER_07]: Do you remember where he said a jot on everything? [SPEAKER_07]: A jot on him? [SPEAKER_07]: If this was, oh God, this was his first stand-up specials. [SPEAKER_07]: This is like now twenty-some years ago. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's right. [SPEAKER_07]: And they're great. [SPEAKER_07]: They're fantastic. [SPEAKER_07]: Eddie Isard is. [SPEAKER_03]: Love Eddie Isard. [SPEAKER_03]: He's right.

[SPEAKER_07]: In whatever form you can have Eddie Isard anytime. [SPEAKER_03]: Always have some Eddie Isard. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: So, but that's where the, you know, a jot on everything. [SPEAKER_07]: And it's like they have, they have war on government. [SPEAKER_07]: They're war in good government. [SPEAKER_07]: They've war in education. [SPEAKER_07]: They have war in immigration. [SPEAKER_07]: They have war on fair voting.

[SPEAKER_07]: You're like, what the hell is wrong with you people? [SPEAKER_07]: Why don't you just, you know, not be angry at everything all the time? [SPEAKER_03]: My favorite about them is they will spend money on so much stuff or tax breaks on people that don't need it. [SPEAKER_03]: But we'll spend money where we all need it. [SPEAKER_07]: like FEMA, like so much of it. [SPEAKER_07]: They're denying, they're, and it's not just, it's not blue state to you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, they, they have been denying FEMA applications from Maryland, but they've also been denying them from Arkansas and Texas and folks, it's, they're, they're hitting everybody and here's the thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Remember we said that they, they want to steal. [SPEAKER_07]: They want to steal money.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're in this to steal and then they're always like you ask him and they go, oh no, no, especially, oh God, the the biggest one of these is Scott Basin's treasury secretary. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I blow them so I don't know them as much as I do the head of OMB. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm with you on that. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but best into me is just the most smart me jackass and it was it was funny because he said the quiet part out loud here yesterday at this event.

[SPEAKER_07]: He told the truth about what they actually want to do with Social Security here. [SPEAKER_07]: I got this on the DVR too. [SPEAKER_01]: If you had these accounts, why are you investigating this way? [SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing it? [SPEAKER_01]: How can you understand the power of compound interest? [SPEAKER_01]: And also, at the end of the day, that I'm not sure when the distribution level date should be, whether it should be thirty and you can buy a house, it should be sixty.

[SPEAKER_01]: But in a way, it is a back door for privatizing so security. [SPEAKER_07]: He just said the quiet part out loud. [SPEAKER_07]: He totally did. [SPEAKER_07]: Republicans have been wanting to privatize and steal your social security for ages. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, they cut your Medicare, they cut your Medicaid, they cut your ACA, and now this jackass, who is the Secretary of the Treasury by the guy with the money?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: And now he's saying, oh, by the way, we want to steal your social security too. [SPEAKER_03]: The thing is is that the average human in this country, [SPEAKER_03]: to save ten percent or five percent or two percent or whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: It's what impossible. [SPEAKER_03]: It's what three percent of your paycheck goes to something like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Something like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Or six, I think, and then your employer should manage the other sick.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to save that on your own because you have bills to pay. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And so for them to say that that's like, no, I think that what FDR did, [SPEAKER_07]: was brilliant. [SPEAKER_07]: It's fantastic. [SPEAKER_07]: It is the way it should be that we should have Social Security. [SPEAKER_07]: In fact, we need to shore it up.

[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, one of the best ways that we could shore up Social Security is simply take off the cap. [SPEAKER_07]: Take off the cap. [SPEAKER_07]: There is a cap on Social Security.

[SPEAKER_07]: If you don't know this, where after you pay a certain amount, [SPEAKER_07]: sixty seven thousand sixty seven thousand seventy two thousand something like that after that you don't have to pay in anymore no take the cap off and not only that but judge income not based on whether it is work or investment based because that is how things are rich no base it on income is it is it money you didn't have before will then congratulations [SPEAKER_07]: That's how we're going to tax it.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm with you completely on that and having been a ten ninety nine worker. [SPEAKER_03]: We have to pay double into that. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's it's we pay more into Social Security because we're the employer and the employee.

[SPEAKER_07]: You play both sides of it, you know, which is I'm fine with that because now I'm forced to save my money, but by the same token, why, but Social Security, especially because of the fact that Social Security is something that has been promised to generation of Americans and the rich want to steal it. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, especially when you've got Republicans doing things, you know, they are doing such horrible things to screw the government up.

[SPEAKER_07]: The Center Republicans have confirmed a right-wing extremist conspiracy theorist to lead the national counterterrorism center. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, Jody is is gobsmacked right now. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, that's. [SPEAKER_07]: And remember, Doge was supposed to be about efficiency? [SPEAKER_03]: You're funny. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, we always knew that was a lie, too.

[SPEAKER_07]: The federal government is now paying more than a hundred and fifty four thousand people to not work. [SPEAKER_03]: Because if you know I wish I had one of those jobs. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, and that's not including the members of Congress. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_07]: There was something else that happened. [SPEAKER_07]: A Senate committee did vote to advance a stock trading ban and Josh Holland asked Holly.

[SPEAKER_07]: They got less coward from Missouri. [SPEAKER_07]: He joined Democrats. [SPEAKER_07]: in the Senate committee to vote for this, but he made sure that there was a carve out for Trump, and also this would only affect future administrations and future Congresses. [SPEAKER_07]: It wouldn't affect anybody who's in Congress now, for example, himself. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, he wanted a name at the Nancy Pelosi bill or something like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, because Trump told him to go after Pelosi. [SPEAKER_07]: And so they've been saying, well, Pelosi, and it's like Republicans are just as bad if not worse on this time. [SPEAKER_03]: Have you talked to Rick Scott? [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, God. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that was, that was interesting because Holly and Scott, I saw that. [SPEAKER_07]: Got into it off of a C span clip. [SPEAKER_07]: They got into it.

[SPEAKER_07]: And Holly was basically like, dude, you're one of the richest and most corrupt members of this entire Congress in either house. [SPEAKER_07]: He didn't actually say this, but it was very clearly implied. [SPEAKER_07]: And Rick Scott was like, well, but, but, but you're saying that like it's a bad thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, first off. [SPEAKER_03]: having insider information on what bills are going to be passed. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Should not enrich you.

[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: A hundred percent. [SPEAKER_07]: They shouldn't. [SPEAKER_07]: They shouldn't be able to do that. [SPEAKER_07]: But also people like Rick Scott who have been convicted of major fraud. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Medicare for example.

[SPEAKER_07]: We definitely when when we good folks get back in and it will be when not if when we good folks get back in it needs to be such that I said this a lot lately that one of the watchwords we need to make sure every democrat that we are electing everyone who are re-electing

[SPEAKER_07]: needs to have accountability needs to have accountability not just to themselves but as something that they will push through and one of the things that we should do is say if you have been convicted of any crime that in any way significantly reflects poorly or is related to especially if it's you know government crime itself [SPEAKER_07]: You don't get to run for office. [SPEAKER_07]: You don't get to run for office again.

[SPEAKER_07]: We have three hundred and fifty million people here in the United States, roughly. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, and yes, some of them can't run for Congress or town, you know, they can't mean your town council. [SPEAKER_07]: They can't be mayor. [SPEAKER_07]: They can't be governor. [SPEAKER_07]: I get that. [SPEAKER_07]: But when you get rid of, I'll give you a hundred million of those kinds of people.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's still two hundred and fifty million people hypothetically who could fill those seats. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, Rick Scott, you don't need to be one of those people. [SPEAKER_07]: Donald Trump does not need my mother. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh Jesus, Jody, my mom. [SPEAKER_07]: Every single time that we get on this and we always because she always wants to know how you're doing, how your mom is doing, how we're doing with the show, how things are going.

[SPEAKER_07]: Mom cares, that's whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: And we inevitably mentioned Trump and she's like, I just don't know how he could be like, I know but he was he was convicted. [SPEAKER_07]: He should not have been allowed to be present. [SPEAKER_07]: And I said, well, that there's a difference between what should and what is mom. [SPEAKER_07]: And that's she's like, well, he shouldn't be, but that's what I mean.

[SPEAKER_07]: When we Democrats get back into power, we need to make sure there are some accountability laws. [SPEAKER_07]: So people like Rick Scott, who is a criminal and I can say that and people like Donald Trump, who is a criminal and I can say that because they were both convicted. [SPEAKER_07]: They were of fraud. [SPEAKER_03]: They were both convicted of that. [SPEAKER_07]: They need to be barred from office. [SPEAKER_07]: They need to be barred from being able to be elected.

[SPEAKER_07]: Period. [SPEAKER_07]: It is it is to me almost as important if not more important than somebody who has committed another crime like people who say, you know, oh, they, you know, that somebody was a child molester and they shouldn't be allowed to be elected. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not disagreeing with you that day. [SPEAKER_07]: I do not want you to join Maxwell elected anything, but Donald Trump also should not be elected anything.

[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm just saying folks, you know, it's one of those where there are certain things that we need to be holding people accountable. [SPEAKER_07]: And if you're one of those people who's going, well, I'm worried because that might affect me. [SPEAKER_07]: I just have to ask what you got going on here, closet. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, what did you do that we don't know about? [SPEAKER_03]: Being convicted of a specific type of felony.

[SPEAKER_03]: right because if we just go felons like fraud yeah I mean that's especially against the government right excuse me but I mean if you because there were federally felony convictions of people in this country that just smoked pot so right and it's it shouldn't be every crime it absolutely should not be every single crime right but if it's a crime that [SPEAKER_07]: reflects on your ability to be responsible. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, honest, responsible leader.

[SPEAKER_07]: So fraud is a big one, especially if it's if it's financial fraud or if it is, you know, fraud with the government like, you know, I'm sorry, but Rick Scott's fraud was he was he's the biggest Medicare fraudster in the history of Medicaid. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_07]: as somebody who is responsible for the corporation and we need to be holding corporate executives responsible too. [SPEAKER_07]: No more of this.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's a corporation so technically okay fine. [SPEAKER_07]: So we can't necessarily throw them in prison, but we can ban them from being on corporate boards. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: people go, what will they do? [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't have to go find an honest job. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, maybe they will have to. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, end up on unemployment and maybe they will need some assistance.

[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe they'll learn to do something else where they're not such jerks. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if these people are out on the street. [SPEAKER_07]: I really don't. [SPEAKER_07]: It's accountability. [SPEAKER_07]: And that's that's why every Democrat, every Democrat, every Democrat, every independent. [SPEAKER_07]: And if you are a non-Trump Republican, yep, you too. [SPEAKER_07]: You need to be on board with accountability folks.

[SPEAKER_07]: Because that's, that's one of the reasons why we are in the mess that we are is people who are saying, well, let them do it. [SPEAKER_07]: And sorry, nope, not happening. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, John is, I think. [SPEAKER_07]: He's on his way in. [SPEAKER_07]: Is he? [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, good. [SPEAKER_07]: John, people saying is coming into the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Next, we will talk with him about some of the stuff we've been talking about already.

[SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, there is a little bit more news on tap as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Some good news with the National Guard and Los Angeles. [SPEAKER_07]: You, uh, it's a little bit empty you're out there and you're into the bar, Joe. [SPEAKER_03]: Thankfully. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll talk about that coming up with John Fugelsang. [SPEAKER_07]: It's Jonny Hamilton and me shots with Pierce on a Thursday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Come on back for another round.

[SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we'd pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Thursday night at the politics bar and John Feeblezank has found his way to the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: It's got a really cool shirt. [SPEAKER_07]: The lolliest mock shirt this evening, which the lolliest mock is fantastic. [SPEAKER_07]: That is.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: There is a radio station at the called radio paradise and they have a great jazz station played some lolliest bond here last night, night before. [SPEAKER_07]: Very good stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: John, how you doing? [SPEAKER_07]: How's your week been so far? [SPEAKER_07]: Been a little bit busy. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm guessing. [SPEAKER_06]: You know what?

[SPEAKER_06]: I've just an exhausting week of trying to block those Epstein files, which also don't exist. [SPEAKER_06]: I've so tired from blocking these files that are real. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't really exist. [SPEAKER_06]: And I've been keeping these completely fake files from coming out. [SPEAKER_06]: So it takes a toll on me. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like trying to divide by zero. [SPEAKER_06]: Holding back a lot of hoax, holding back a lot of hoaxes over here. [SPEAKER_07]: difficult.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know, look, there's one Trump is just snapping at Caitlin Collins. [SPEAKER_06]: Keep quiet. [SPEAKER_06]: I know. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly what Jeffrey Epstein used to say to those girls. [SPEAKER_07]: So it also circles out. [SPEAKER_07]: Ouch. [SPEAKER_07]: I am, you know, the family is mad. [SPEAKER_07]: The family hit on the same thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: Family of Virginia, Jeffrey, hit on the same thing that you were hitting on yesterday, Jody, about Trump's language, about the stall. [SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Like the owns. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: It is. [SPEAKER_07]: It is. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like the whole the underage girl who was working in my spa. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and also he didn't have a spa. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's the best spa ever.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, he didn't own a spa. [SPEAKER_06]: He stole someone from me that did something here, uh, stole them from me. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, and I never occurred to me what he might be stealing them for because again, he did known as spa. [SPEAKER_06]: So I never occurred to him. [SPEAKER_06]: Why would he be taking my underage? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Their language gives everything away.

[SPEAKER_07]: Did you hear what Secretary Basin said about social security? [SPEAKER_07]: They are one of these new Trump child savings account as a backdoor for privatizing so far. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, and then there he comes out today and he says no, no, no, I didn't I didn't actually mean that and I'm like, yeah, no, we all heard you. [SPEAKER_07]: We played it earlier. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like what the hell is wrong with you people?

[SPEAKER_06]: The Secretary of Kashmir is just a, of course, following in a long line of people who say the quiet part out loud. [SPEAKER_06]: That's always what it's been. [SPEAKER_06]: They want your Medicare folks. [SPEAKER_06]: They want your health security for some reason. [SPEAKER_06]: Their money got into your safety net. [SPEAKER_06]: They're trying to get it out.

[SPEAKER_06]: And by God, they'll bring up all the racism and everybody's hearts against Muslims or trans kids or Mexicans, whatever they've got to do. [SPEAKER_06]: to get their money out of your safety net. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, and they're so mad right there. [SPEAKER_07]: Religion isn't in your government.

[SPEAKER_07]: They want their religion in your government and how come they can't shove their religion in your government even though they don't want your religion shoved in their government. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, wait, we'll find out that Jesus isn't actually part of their religion. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: These people, they don't, they don't ever fight. [SPEAKER_06]: Now again, they'll, this is what's fundamentalists do of all religions, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: This is what my book is about. [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't matter how, what your religion is. [SPEAKER_07]: The more you say church and hate, by the way, out September ninth, I believe? [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, sir. [SPEAKER_06]: The more to the right, your religion is. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't care if your Hindu or Scientologist or Jewish or Christian or Muslim. [SPEAKER_06]: The more to the right, the more women are second-class citizens. [SPEAKER_06]: Sex is bad unless it's for procreation.

[SPEAKER_06]: Violence is okay. [SPEAKER_06]: If my side does it. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm on the side of God. [SPEAKER_06]: So I have a pass. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Because God approves of that. [SPEAKER_06]: Always a focus on punishment instead of healing. [SPEAKER_06]: Always for the fundamentalists of every religion. [SPEAKER_06]: It's the same religion.

[SPEAKER_06]: The extreme right wing Muslims have more in common with the extreme right wing Christians than they do their modern Jews. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly right. [SPEAKER_06]: And finally a pension for victimhood. [SPEAKER_06]: There's always got to be some history of victimhood that justifies me being a bully. [SPEAKER_06]: That's what always has been there.

[SPEAKER_06]: So these people when they're claiming their victimhood [SPEAKER_06]: It's never anything that affects conservative Christian practice. [SPEAKER_06]: It's only things that affect conservative Christian domination. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, they wouldn't let me proselytize about how, oh, they're forcing my kids to accept gay people. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, they're not letting me discriminate, not make a cake for who I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm.

[SPEAKER_06]: Again, if you believe in Jesus, you'd bake a cake for gay people and wouldn't charge them, okay? [SPEAKER_06]: These people are not actually Christian. [SPEAKER_06]: They hide behind religion. [SPEAKER_06]: Their creed is hiding behind a giant gold cross to take a dump on the gospels. [SPEAKER_06]: That's what they do. [SPEAKER_06]: They hide behind a big shiny gold cross to defecate on the Jesus parts.

[SPEAKER_06]: So Donald Trump got these people's affection, not by pronouncing to do anything Jesus talked about because that's welcoming the stranger and caring for the poor and caring for the sick. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't like actual Jesus. [SPEAKER_06]: He did it by playing into their victimhood narrative and you Christians are so persecuted. [SPEAKER_06]: So now what they're going to do is they're going to let federal workers evangelize through their car workers on the job.

[SPEAKER_06]: You now get to have awkward workplace conversations about hell folks. [SPEAKER_06]: If you thought the office birthday parties were payable before now [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be cupcakes and pamphlet on the rapture. [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be, hey, Janice, I just wanted to share with you how you're going to burn eternally in a lake of fire. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Bob, I'm trying to finish this Excel sheet over here. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's okay.

[SPEAKER_06]: I have a pamlet for that, too. [SPEAKER_06]: And not just the employees, guys, VA doctors can pray over patients now, which again, [SPEAKER_06]: Brett, you know, have you accepted Jesus as your savior? [SPEAKER_06]: No, that's too high. [SPEAKER_06]: I accepted the morphine. [SPEAKER_06]: You gave me thirty minutes ago. [SPEAKER_06]: What would park rangers can now pray with your tour group?

[SPEAKER_06]: And again, this is not about protecting all religions because you think [SPEAKER_06]: Think any Muslim federal workers are going to be inviting everyone to the break room for Friday prayers. [SPEAKER_06]: You think that'll be happening? [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_06]: We'll need the satanic temple poster going up in your cubicle. [SPEAKER_06]: This is about Christian nationalism pretending to care about religious freedom.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's some for the Jesus' state for the pyramid scheme of piety. [SPEAKER_06]: It is not to protect people of all faiths. [SPEAKER_06]: It is for evangelical supremacy, which is religion. [SPEAKER_06]: It's spiritual harassment. [SPEAKER_06]: And again, it's salvation by coercion. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not religious freedom. [SPEAKER_06]: If you're holding my time card hostage until I agree to come to a prayer group, well, that's not how Jesus wanted it.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I'll remind everybody, the Republican Party fights for nothing that the character of Jesus actually talked about, all of their talk about religion. [SPEAKER_06]: And I do mean all of it is a rose for power. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Amen. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you were, you were mentioned that, Jordi. [SPEAKER_07]: I think we had it was it earlier this week in the news on tap and we had that that was earlier and that that just it's just.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I don't understand. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't understand how they think they're going to get away with it, John, because here's my thing. [SPEAKER_07]: So they try this. [SPEAKER_07]: It's going to inevitably end up in court. [SPEAKER_07]: They're going to, it'll be the equivalent of, since we can't technically do nationwide injection. [SPEAKER_07]: They'll be a nationwide class action, which will have the same thing. [SPEAKER_07]: It'll be back to the same thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: It'll get, it'll get argued and argued. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they don't care. [SPEAKER_07]: They don't care. [SPEAKER_07]: They don't care, Sean. [SPEAKER_07]: They're going to fundraise off of it. [SPEAKER_06]: They didn't. [SPEAKER_06]: They're going to care. [SPEAKER_06]: Pain off of it. [SPEAKER_06]: Under my leadership, we thought to have federal workers be able to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the workplace is our due to a Christian campaign point.

[SPEAKER_06]: They don't care if it gets overturned. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't care if it's illegal. [SPEAKER_06]: They're going to fundraise off of it. [SPEAKER_06]: This comes a week after we finally found that pastors can just now repeat Fox News talking points for help it and it gets to still be tax-free. [SPEAKER_06]: The Johnson and then then used to say, hey, if you all want tax exemption, keep your servants on Jesus, not the political parties, [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[SPEAKER_06]: If you want to endorse the candidate, you can pay taxes like the rest of us, heathens. [SPEAKER_06]: But now Trump and the gang of evangelical local bobs have been like, no, we want to have it both ways. [SPEAKER_06]: We want our divine tax loophole. [SPEAKER_06]: And we want propaganda church. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: So now secular nonprofits, well, this is all going on. [SPEAKER_06]: The people who are actually out there do in the Lord's work.

[SPEAKER_06]: The people out there actually feeding the homeless, housing the veterans, doing actual charity. [SPEAKER_06]: They still can't endorse candidates without risking their tax exempt status. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, but a mega church can tell you who to vote for. [SPEAKER_06]: It can sell you Jesus merch. [SPEAKER_06]: It can sell you Trump merch and it can break in untax cash faster than Joel Osteen dodging flood victims.

[SPEAKER_06]: And they just put this into a random court settlement, like they're sneaking a bottle of whiskey into the movies. [SPEAKER_06]: It's just, it's theocracy. [SPEAKER_07]: All of these, all of these groups should just start their own churches legally. [SPEAKER_07]: It's fairly easy to do. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure you know, you've, you've seen them.

[SPEAKER_06]: They should, they should just start their own churches and say, look, we did, we did the man they find the name for their religion, because Jesus' name is taken. [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, but, I think it's to get it on this too. [SPEAKER_06]: Take away their spiritual camouflage. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't fight for anything, the character of Jesus, I mean anything. [SPEAKER_06]: The character Jesus talked about in the Bible, so make them find a name for their mean little club.

[SPEAKER_06]: Their clubs name after a guy who said that you have to welcome the stranger and the nation will be judged by it. [SPEAKER_06]: Your individuals and nations will be judged by how you care for the sick and the poor. [SPEAKER_06]: Pay your goddamn taxes. [SPEAKER_06]: Stop executing people. [SPEAKER_06]: Stop hating people. [SPEAKER_06]: He who lives by the sword dies by the sword. [SPEAKER_06]: They despise. [SPEAKER_06]: the Jesus of the book, whether he's real or not.

[SPEAKER_06]: So, I mean, I say, let him go ahead and claim it's religion, but what religion is it? [SPEAKER_06]: Because the Holy Book I have, Jesus didn't chase the gay wedding cakes out of the temple. [SPEAKER_03]: No, he's not. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just saying, I think that that you are offering another weapon in the arsenal that we should use. [SPEAKER_07]: They should, I mean, yes, you're right. [SPEAKER_07]: That people should absolutely say, obviously aren't Christians.

[SPEAKER_07]: But then also these, you know, other formerly non-anominational should make up their own churches and they should do it. [SPEAKER_07]: They should do like what Democrats are doing now with these redistricting wars. [SPEAKER_07]: You've been paying attention to this. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure. [SPEAKER_07]: And they've been floating these stuff and looking at it in New York, in California, in Illinois, and it's very clear that the Democrats who are in those states

[SPEAKER_07]: If they really wanted to push, they could push state rules that would change the rules that they have now that would allow them to do the same, jerrymandering garbage, the Texas is, and I say, go for it, because instead of us playing by the nice rules, which is what these non-denominational public groups are doing, playing by the nice rules with the Johnson Amendment, screw that. [SPEAKER_07]: play hardball, play Chicago rules.

[SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, I'm sorry, but you shoot one of ours. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll put one of yours in a more. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's go all the way if you want to because I guarantee if Republicans and Democrats or I should just say Democrats is Democrats independence, non-Trump Republicans, if it's the bad people versus us good people and we're playing on an even playing field, we're going to kick their ass every single day.

[SPEAKER_07]: that's what I'm saying, but but but but we've been but we've been having you you had me the whole time I was I was on your wonka train of and he ran those I was going down the top of the mission we shouldn't restrict ourselves we shouldn't say well you know we're gonna have an independent fair redistricting commission I welcome to California [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_07]: While in Texas, they're like, we're going to jerryman to this within an inch of our life so that Democrats have one representative in the House and nothing in the Senate and nothing in the State House and Democrats can pound sand forever. [SPEAKER_07]: That's stupid of us then in California to have a fair redistricting commission. [SPEAKER_07]: We should go ahead. [SPEAKER_07]: And you want to do that? [SPEAKER_07]: We'll do it the other direction.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and by the way, we'll take your one Republican out of the House to and leave you with none. [SPEAKER_07]: Eat it. [SPEAKER_07]: So, I mean, you want to go, let's go, but we got to make sure that we tell people, you know, let's not play nice anymore about this stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: Let's play it down. [SPEAKER_06]: Chuck Schumer is so angry about this. [SPEAKER_06]: I heard he actually, he rips the tassels off his lovers.

[SPEAKER_06]: He rips the tassels right off his lovers, folks. [SPEAKER_06]: And I, I'm sorry, you had a real big chuck. [SPEAKER_03]: Did he wear glasses up on his nose or were they still down? [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think Chuck is leading on that. [SPEAKER_07]: I think that I think that Cory Booker who you saw really get mad earlier this week. [SPEAKER_07]: I love the fact that he did that. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm glad that we're getting Zorn Mam Danny.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm glad that we're getting Democrats who are saying what I've been saying just here, who are saying, you know what? [SPEAKER_07]: Screw this. [SPEAKER_07]: They're taking off the gloves and they're saying, let's do things differently. [SPEAKER_07]: And it doesn't necessarily mean walking up and punching somebody in the face, but it does mean we're no longer doing something ourselves. [SPEAKER_06]: It's what they'll do.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean Kathy Hockel will do it and and Gavin Newsom will do it. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, these guys are all just doing a bunch of [SPEAKER_07]: You know, Pritzker's going to do it in Illinois. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, Pritzker is be like, you want to come to that. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's going to be awful. [SPEAKER_06]: Because again, these Texas Republicans, they treat democracy like it's an expired coupon. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_06]: Notice that none of these people are trying to win new voters. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: They're trying to move the voters. [SPEAKER_06]: They already have preferably out of their own majority brown districts. [SPEAKER_06]: So the Joel is to make Jasmine crocket.

[SPEAKER_06]: apparently now not even live in the district she represents anymore because white defeat opponents with better ideas when you can draw them out of existence so this is what they do they're cracking down on diverse urban centers like Dallas and Houston like they're gutting fish because then you want to pack black and brown voters into a handful of majority white districts dilute their power in every way and and blame wokeness a lot and it's not a Texas issue this is a trial balloon if they can redraw

[SPEAKER_06]: Jasmine Crockett out of her own district, then they can do it to your neighborhood. [SPEAKER_06]: They can do it to your vote. [SPEAKER_06]: They can do it to your voice. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Republicans did not invent Jerry Mandrig, but they have put it on performance enhancing steroids. [SPEAKER_06]: And they're not trying to win on ideas or policies or God forbid merit. [SPEAKER_06]: They're trying to win by rigging the entire chess board. [SPEAKER_06]: So, right.

[SPEAKER_06]: You got to remember one thing about it. [SPEAKER_06]: This shows that they are scared. [SPEAKER_06]: to be a year and a half away from the midterms and they're already trying to find ways to cheat in Texas. [SPEAKER_06]: This is how they are. [SPEAKER_06]: This is not going to distract people from the Epstein list nor will it distract people from all but one house republicans voting to protect the pedophiles on said list. [SPEAKER_06]: This is race based voter laundering.

[SPEAKER_06]: And it rocks a great way to put it. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: It just rocks the floorboards of democracy. [SPEAKER_06]: It's telling entire communities that your voice is conditional. [SPEAKER_06]: And that your vote is disposable and that representation is it's negotiable. [SPEAKER_06]: It could be us could be somebody else. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not going to be who you want it to be. [SPEAKER_06]: So this is something new. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's nothing new.

[SPEAKER_06]: And Democrats can respond with the same thing. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not going to make our country better. [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, you're right. [SPEAKER_07]: No, but, you know, it's, it's, um, Republicans need, the kinds of Republicans who are doing this. [SPEAKER_07]: They need to learn. [SPEAKER_07]: And the only way they're going to learn is, well, we mentioned it yesterday. [SPEAKER_07]: My father used to have a phrase for it called two by four stupid.

[SPEAKER_07]: The only way certain people learn like that is when they take a two by four to the face at about ninety miles an hour. [SPEAKER_07]: And then they, then they get real smart real quick. [SPEAKER_07]: So look John, we've got, we've got to go pay some bills here. [SPEAKER_07]: We haven't yet for another round. [SPEAKER_06]: Not only, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_07]: All right, Thursday night, the one and only John Fugel sang with Jodie Hamilton and with me Sean Smith Pierce here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Get your drink fresh enough and come back for last call. [SPEAKER_07]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Last call on a Thursday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: We're hanging out with you.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I, I mentioned it in first hour, John, I am, I have to be honest with you on this one. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, Kamala Harris has a new book coming out called a hundred and seven days and I was, when I heard it, they said, I was going to be September and my first reaction was, oh man, because John's new book. [SPEAKER_07]: It's coming out separation of church and hate. [SPEAKER_07]: It's coming out September ninth.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I was thinking, man, if John has to go up against Kamala, no offense. [SPEAKER_07]: I love you. [SPEAKER_07]: I think, I think if you as, you know, a brother and radio. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, look. [SPEAKER_07]: If I, I can handle it, I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: If I, I can handle it, I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: If I, I can handle it, I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it.

[SPEAKER_07]: If I, I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it.

[SPEAKER_07]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: I can handle it. [SPEAKER_06]: She, she does this thing. [SPEAKER_06]: Last November. [SPEAKER_06]: She'd be put. [SPEAKER_05]: She's interesting. [SPEAKER_06]: No, where she's texting me like five times a day and then I then it just stops. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, like like I mean, because I don't know about y'all.

[SPEAKER_06]: I the first time she texted me, I wrote back. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm like you were in your up. [SPEAKER_06]: And it kept on coming. [SPEAKER_06]: And I was just like, makes, you know, small talk and everything. [SPEAKER_06]: And I thought we really had something. [SPEAKER_06]: But wow, she did the same thing last time. [SPEAKER_06]: As soon as election day was over, I stopped hearing from that girl. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know where she was at.

[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm really glad she had time the right of book. [SPEAKER_06]: That's great. [SPEAKER_06]: I wrote a book too. [SPEAKER_06]: If you'll recall, Kamala, I wrote you about it a lot. [SPEAKER_06]: I shared a lot of details with you. [SPEAKER_06]: You get the PDF, I texted by the way. [SPEAKER_06]: It's all packed up with that, but yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, she might have been getting been a little busy because she's also what she was getting ready for tonight.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, well, work here and then you're going back over to Series XM. [SPEAKER_07]: She's over at the Ed Sullivan theater with Colbert. [SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, that's well, everybody, everybody should visit the Ed Sullivan theater while it's still there. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, before they put in Charlie Kirk. [SPEAKER_07]: God, oh, yeah, I'm just You laugh, but you laugh, but I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_07]: It's the elephants. [SPEAKER_07]: They could do that.

[SPEAKER_07]: I could see them doing something. [SPEAKER_06]: I could see them doing something. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, or worse, it could be my old boss, uh, Laura Ingram. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, no, that's, you don't, you don't know. [SPEAKER_07]: I could tell stories, but I won't. [SPEAKER_06]: Mainly because you're going to, and I won't. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, well, you're going to be lovely, lady. [SPEAKER_06]: Lovely, lady.

[SPEAKER_06]: By the way, if you guys haven't had a chance to watch Laura Ingram's one-on-one with Ron DeSantis, you're cheating yourself as a fan of rock. [SPEAKER_05]: Hello. [SPEAKER_05]: Hello. [SPEAKER_06]: Hello, Laura. [SPEAKER_05]: How are you doing? [SPEAKER_05]: I'm still speaking through my nasal resonator. [SPEAKER_05]: How about you? [SPEAKER_05]: I'm doing the same thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: I found it easier in my professional life and left and it's always come through my nose instead of my hot soft palate. [SPEAKER_05]: That's right. [SPEAKER_05]: But at least a million hours a day again, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Governor.

[SPEAKER_07]: send a wolf to aligator alcatrazates they both have voices for mine oh god yes you said that I love that I love that phrase I forgot you said that it's good but yeah no I mean look she's she's getting back into getting back into things and I'm I'm really glad she is because I think that [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's long past time.

[SPEAKER_07]: I would have liked to have seen her get back into things sooner, but I think it's with Democrats standing up like some of them have and look, you're right in saying that, you know, Chuck Schumer is yes, he is technically the leader of the Senate Democrats, but I don't really think he is a Democratic leader that much anymore. [SPEAKER_07]: I think there are a lot of Democratic leaders who are [SPEAKER_07]: stepping up in different places in different levels.

[SPEAKER_07]: Locals say, we're starting to see more of it. [SPEAKER_06]: We're there. [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be people who but their body in the movement at this point. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be people who are willing to get punched by a Nazi and people who are willing to get shoved by Bonnie Watson Coleman is eight years old and she got shoved. [SPEAKER_06]: She did. [SPEAKER_06]: By these thug cowards of Newark are right.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's what's going to be about. [SPEAKER_06]: Really great that Kamala Harris has got a book. [SPEAKER_06]: That's terrific. [SPEAKER_06]: I hope it sells really well. [SPEAKER_06]: And I got nothing but a respect for her. [SPEAKER_06]: I think she ran a good campaign considering everything that was going on. [SPEAKER_06]: But you know, get your hands dirty. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, like I'm sorry, but like if Jane Fonda can get arrested, yes.

[SPEAKER_06]: Next president or next vice president can get arrested as well. [SPEAKER_06]: And she will want to feel like the Democratic Party is fighting for them and going through a struggle. [SPEAKER_06]: So while I appreciate every committee to form a subcommittee to discuss writing a letter, the Chuck Schumer can come up with.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think people want to see more direct action and the Democrats who are willing to get their body in the movement to get cuffs put on the map by I said a courthouse to get shoved. [SPEAKER_06]: They're the ones who are going to win the fundraising, which is the Democratic Party cares about at the end of the day anyway. [SPEAKER_06]: So the ones who are going to generate the most excitement and the most fundraising are the ones that voters believe are willing to get in there.

[SPEAKER_06]: and get their hands dirty fighting these unholy fascists. [SPEAKER_06]: And so, I mean, let's see it. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm I'm I'm I'm cheering for a manual McCron this week more than anyone in the country. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Recognizing Palestine any suing Candace Owen and a group very good by the way for that. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: I like when the country that admitted the guillotine scares Candace Owen very good.

[SPEAKER_06]: but like let I want to see that I want to see these guys getting in there and and you know making it a mess I mean the very fact that Donald Trump is sending his personal lawyer in the hush money case down for a private one-on-one with the lady pimp like like he's Tom Hagan and the godfather said I never knew how classy watergate was [SPEAKER_06]: Watergate is a greenhouse porno. [SPEAKER_06]: He like they're so corrupt.

[SPEAKER_06]: They think visiting a convicted sex traffic or in prison will clear their name. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like trying to get it out mustard from a shirt using mustard. [SPEAKER_06]: These people are ready. [SPEAKER_06]: We want to see some fight Democrats. [SPEAKER_06]: No committees of fight. [SPEAKER_07]: And then, and then we were talking about this earlier this week with Cory Booker. [SPEAKER_07]: And you were saying that you were pissed off at Claremma Cascald. [SPEAKER_07]: Jodie.

[SPEAKER_07]: And yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Talk about it. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, because I'm, you were, you were hot about it. [SPEAKER_06]: He goes to, she goes to you as well. [SPEAKER_06]: She does it all the time. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I really listen. [SPEAKER_06]: My well-documented history with Claire and the party scene in the nineties. [SPEAKER_06]: Look, I'm not gonna brag about it. [SPEAKER_06]: It was there.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was young, it happened, but like, I thought we had something real. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what I was going to do. [SPEAKER_03]: I brought stuff to the kitchen. [SPEAKER_03]: No, she got mad at Cory Barker for getting mad at Democrats. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, well. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, she gets mad at him because he gets out there.

[SPEAKER_07]: And he's like, you're sitting here arguing about this stupid police thing, which because of some of Trump's executive orders, even if we pass it, and even if the House passes it, some of the people who are mad at me for saying this stuff aren't gonna get the money that is in this bill for their police departments, in the Twin Cities in Nevada, in Vegas, in New Jersey, in New York. [SPEAKER_07]: And he says, [SPEAKER_07]: Why are we doing this is stupid?

[SPEAKER_07]: We need to be really fighting and she gets mad at him because she's basically doing the decorum thing. [SPEAKER_07]: I was cheering for you because Democrats don't have all that much power. [SPEAKER_07]: And what they do, Schumer who we, you know, we rightfully given crap to, he, at least for at least his people, found that little loophole, the rule of five in the last five.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, which now says basically, look, if the Senate, if the Senate has enough Democrats, which they do to demand stuff from the executive, whether the executive wants it or not, whether Trump's people wanted it or not, they're going to have to give over some of these files. [SPEAKER_07]: That's if they follow the law. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, they're going to argue about it. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: But it's not what this is.

[SPEAKER_07]: But it's the point of, it's the point of saying, use whatever method you have, use whatever you have to fight. [SPEAKER_07]: God damn fight, whatever you can.

[SPEAKER_06]: The rule of five is that the federal law requires agencies to give information if any five members of Homeland Security and governmental affairs committee request it right so they're doing this right century old law to force the DOJ to release these documents now will the DOJ stop protecting these pedophiles because they're legally bound to of course they won't [SPEAKER_06]: We're never getting these names.

[SPEAKER_06]: These are the names of big money donors of both political parties. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: So this is all football. [SPEAKER_06]: Schumer knows this is not going to work. [SPEAKER_06]: Schumer knows the names are not going to get out. [SPEAKER_06]: This is Schumer saying let's try this and see if it captures the headlines for half an hour of one new cycle. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's what they're doing. [SPEAKER_07]: It's doing something.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's something that they can't do. [SPEAKER_07]: And they're doing it. [SPEAKER_06]: When the GOP was getting made fun of by us, because they were having repeal Obamacare votes every week for seventy weeks. [SPEAKER_06]: And we thought, well, these clowns has not gone anywhere. [SPEAKER_06]: Of course, they knew it wasn't going to work.

[SPEAKER_06]: But what they were doing was conveying to their audience that we are committed to this albeit stupid and evil policy that we're going to fight for you that we're going to be committed and they [SPEAKER_06]: fund raised off of it. [SPEAKER_06]: They raised money off of the futility of their pointless gestures in the Congress. [SPEAKER_06]: So when I see our green introducing impeachment articles for Trump, I want it every week.

[SPEAKER_06]: I want a different Democrat to file different articles of impeachment every single week. [SPEAKER_06]: They'll all go away, but keep on showing history that you are standing up against this and fight for it and just be on the record and let people out there see what you're doing. [SPEAKER_06]: So what Schumer's doing, it's great. [SPEAKER_06]: Pam Bonnie will ignore it. [SPEAKER_06]: It'll be forgotten. [SPEAKER_06]: So twenty five more things like this every week, please.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: That's just MS and so that the whole thing of Claire going clutching her pearls and oh, I can't believe Corey with saying that. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like Jesus Claire. [SPEAKER_07]: They're not going to take away your MSNBC spot. [SPEAKER_07]: Come on.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I mean, I'm of a mixed mind on it because I'm so tired of these Democrats and liberals and moderates and leftists and whatever you want to call anti evil people. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm so tired of, you know, screw you for only agreeing with me on eighty five percent of issues. [SPEAKER_06]: I've never been a Democrat. [SPEAKER_06]: I root for Democrats, but I am so tired.

[SPEAKER_06]: of watching Bernie's friends and Hillary's friends go through this moderate versus left thing right is so boring and talk. [SPEAKER_06]: It only works with coalitions and between moderate to midday and leftist purity tests. [SPEAKER_06]: Y'all are just getting these fascists elected over and over. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: Lee. [SPEAKER_06]: We've passed your differences liberals. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, you're perfect and you moderate their perfect too.

[SPEAKER_06]: Now work together and just beat these guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Right beat the monsters because it's we need to do what we can. [SPEAKER_07]: But it shouldn't just be performing. [SPEAKER_07]: Some of the stuff has to be performative because look, we don't have the votes in the house. [SPEAKER_07]: We don't have the votes in the Senate. [SPEAKER_07]: So some of it needs to be performative.

[SPEAKER_07]: But as you were saying, when they were voting, when the Republicans were voting against Obamacare, they were at least showing their people. [SPEAKER_07]: We're trying to do. [SPEAKER_03]: We're trying to take your health care away. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: We can't believe in that. [SPEAKER_07]: They were saying, they were saying to their voters, we're trying to do something and their voters went, see, they're trying to do something on our side.

[SPEAKER_07]: So off in the Democrats go, well, we're not going to be successful. [SPEAKER_07]: So we're not even going to bother. [SPEAKER_03]: And then, and then people who see what's it like that. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, God knows. [SPEAKER_03]: As a speaker, she was not like that. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_06]: It has to stun, get arrested, have the stun, get ready. [SPEAKER_06]: Don't want an America new Brad Lander was New York's controller until he got cuffed and then free.

[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: A household name for a couple of days. [SPEAKER_06]: Now they're the dynamic duo, the Muslim and the Jew, the Muslim and the Jew, they do everything together, the Muslim and the Jew. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, I'm going to be, I will be so jealous of you up there. [SPEAKER_07]: I am really, you know, hoping my identity just takes it and lander steps into a nice assistance spot, helps him in, you know, I'm hoping.

[SPEAKER_06]: And we're almost doing his best to make Curtis Sliwa, or the wackiest, fair and history.

[SPEAKER_06]: Lord God. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, and CNN isn't helping to see that they had did you see that they had him on like for I don't know half an hour something qualmo the other night just and I'm like I'm like isn't that isn't there a campaign finance thing against that shouldn't you guys have on man Danny for half an hour now because equal time that's gone Yeah, I know but still I just I it was it was quite discussed talking about those fairness doctor and grandma

[SPEAKER_06]: Where is the box you just woke from your suspended animation? [SPEAKER_06]: I know. [SPEAKER_03]: Seriously man, that's been gone forever. [SPEAKER_03]: We talked about eighties. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, eighties man, welcome. [SPEAKER_06]: You're going to, you're not going to like my news about the hoaxable in Hulk Hogan. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh God no. [SPEAKER_06]: I hope you're not an Aussie fan, eighties refugee because it wasn't a good week.

[SPEAKER_03]: There was so sweet in England though with Aussie. [SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't good rock and roll news. [SPEAKER_07]: A few fighters and nine inch nails are swapping drummers. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Which unlike. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Did they all look like we'll feral? [SPEAKER_07]: No, they do not. [SPEAKER_07]: You can see it. [SPEAKER_07]: That news is in the news on tap at the politics bar.com in the entertainment section.

[SPEAKER_07]: John, thank you for always being entertaining and having fun with us here on Thursday night. [SPEAKER_07]: We really appreciate it. [SPEAKER_07]: People should absolutely listen to your show on Series XM, but they should check out your Substack and they should one hundred percent pre-buy separation of church and hate. [SPEAKER_07]: We got to do it even pre-buy it. [SPEAKER_06]: You can just buy it. [SPEAKER_07]: He's going up against common.

[SPEAKER_07]: You got to help John on this. [SPEAKER_07]: Go buy the book. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks, John. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll see you next week. [SPEAKER_07]: Tomorrow is Friday. [SPEAKER_07]: We do have Karen and Anita here in the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: We're working on a few other folks here for next week as well. [SPEAKER_07]: So look, go home. [SPEAKER_07]: Get yourself home safe.

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