Cautiously Optimistic February 12, 2026

[SPEAKER_02]: It's political. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, radical. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't think it's the far way that you are. [SPEAKER_02]: The politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Shotsmith, Pearson, Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_09]: Hello, Jodie. [SPEAKER_09]: Hello, Sean. [SPEAKER_09]: How you doing on this Thursday? [SPEAKER_11]: I'm doing all right. [SPEAKER_11]: How you doing? [SPEAKER_11]: You know what, honestly? [SPEAKER_09]: Not bad. [SPEAKER_09]: It was sunny earlier today.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, obviously now it's evening here. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sure it's sunny there. [SPEAKER_09]: It was sunny back. [SPEAKER_09]: You had rain. [SPEAKER_09]: I believe last night. [SPEAKER_11]: We did. [SPEAKER_11]: It was no, it's Tuesday. [SPEAKER_11]: We had rain and it was supposed to rain yesterday, but it blew through really quickly. [SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, the weather is getting better. [SPEAKER_09]: I know spring is coming.

[SPEAKER_09]: especially for those of you who are in the northeast spring is coming there I mean after all it's been ever well so eventually it'll get to you too but the way thank you no matter where you are listening from whether you are listening in the northeast or whether you are listening on one of our great radio stations like for example wcpta m820 in Chicago maybe you are listening in the detour talk in Tennessee maybe you are listening down and plan in Georgia now radio area or maybe you are listening up in Minneapolis Saint Paul in a m950 or

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know, maybe you're the Olympics. [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe you're an Italy listening to us remotely. [SPEAKER_09]: It's entirely possible and progress is what's his radio. [SPEAKER_09]: Mungiorno, we're definitely going to be talking a little bit more Italian today. [SPEAKER_09]: For those of you who are subscribed to the drink of the day, you know exactly, you know what?

[SPEAKER_09]: If you're subscribed to the drink of the day, we're going to give you a cookie, just, just... [SPEAKER_09]: I am in a pretty decent mood, um, it's one of those things. [SPEAKER_09]: So, when you're going up when you're competing in anything, um, art sports, whatever, monopoly, and you're competing against somebody's really good.

[SPEAKER_09]: Sometimes you're like, hey, at least I can battle through a draw right now, which relatively speaking is kind of where we're at with, for example, [SPEAKER_09]: Donald Trump and his whole half-ashist regime. [SPEAKER_09]: There's a lot of half-ashism today. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry, there've been a lot more people who've been talking about panties, little half-fashists, performative bull crap yesterday up on Capitol Hill. [SPEAKER_09]: But there's all kinds of half-ashism.

[SPEAKER_09]: If you guys don't remember, half-ashism is when you combine half-assed with fascism, which pretty much is exactly what is going on with the Trump regime. [SPEAKER_09]: In the first round of a news on tap today under Trump's immigration wars, so borders are Tom Hobag. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a home in, there we go, never mind. [SPEAKER_09]: He came out this morning, claimed that the federal immigration operation in Minnesota is now ending supposedly.

[SPEAKER_11]: I believe that when people in Minnesota tell me, [SPEAKER_05]: I agree with you on that, but at least eight, this is what he said. [SPEAKER_05]: Some public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began, as well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have obtained from state officials and local law. [SPEAKER_05]: As Marbles in his mouth, I have proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude.

[SPEAKER_11]: Well, that's only because they don't like the optics. [SPEAKER_11]: It's not because they don't like what they were doing. [SPEAKER_11]: They just don't like they were found out. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, and here's the other thing. [SPEAKER_09]: So supposedly, they have claimed now that they have withdrawn of national guard forces from LA, Chicago, Portland, and a few other places. [SPEAKER_09]: And they said that they were done back in January.

[SPEAKER_03]: Almost a month ago now. [SPEAKER_09]: Except, you know, I've reached out to a couple of people. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you, I mean, have do you know of people in L.A. That's that they're still seeing them. [SPEAKER_11]: We're still here in National Guard aren't here anymore. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, so the National Guard is not there. [SPEAKER_11]: But I still hear. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: That's just it. [SPEAKER_09]: And there are ice monsters all over the place.

[SPEAKER_09]: So ice monsters in Portland, they're still all over the place. [SPEAKER_09]: We're still seeing reports every day of them doing stupid crap. [SPEAKER_09]: And so maybe they're maybe they're getting rid of some of the extra forces. [SPEAKER_09]: Remember, I think, I think the normal force contingent for Minneapolis, St. Paul was blood around 150, and they had it up to around 4,000 at one point to think, so including National Guard, I think so. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: So even if they draw it down to 1,000, that's still almost 10 times as many as they normally need. [SPEAKER_11]: As they need. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: So the fact of matter is, maybe they're doing it to a draw. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I like to malls obviously, Nebraska, I mean, you know, even though he's the governor of Minnesota, but he's from Nebraska, originally, and he kind of, I won't say clap to back, but he did answer home in today.

[SPEAKER_01]: We are cautiously optimistic, as we've said, and good phrase that this surge of untrained, aggressive federal agents are going to leave Minnesota. [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess they'll go wherever they're going to go. [SPEAKER_01]: But the fact the matter is, they left us with deep damage, generational trauma. [SPEAKER_01]: They left with economic ruin in some cases. [SPEAKER_01]: They left us with many unanswered questions. [SPEAKER_01]: Where are our children?

[SPEAKER_07]: Big question needs to be answered. [SPEAKER_01]: Where and what is the process of the investigation can do those that were responsible for the deaths of Renee and Alex? [SPEAKER_01]: So while the federal government may move on to whatever next thing they want to do, the state of Minnesota and our administration is waveringly focused on the recovery of what they did. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, gotta get him some props. [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, you know.

[SPEAKER_09]: Keep even hand in and keep things going. [SPEAKER_09]: He is not being thankless. [SPEAKER_09]: He is saying, look, [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, if they're gonna leave, that's fine. [SPEAKER_09]: But we got a whole big mess to clean up here.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: As there are in a lot of other places, as there is going to be, in a lot of this country, basically for the next, just assume for the next 20 years, we're gonna have to clean up the mess from these half-ashes and these monsters. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: That is where you should start everything as far as assuming stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: But part of the reason that I'm cheered, we ain't jump around a little bit in here.

[SPEAKER_09]: Because of the fact that, well, I mean, if you go down to the fourth round, where there's pole positions, it's pretty obvious. [SPEAKER_09]: Multiple poles are confirming that voters now agree, Biden did a better job as president than Trump. [SPEAKER_10]: Now, warning you. [SPEAKER_10]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_10]: Now you're right, Jody's right. [SPEAKER_10]: Look, duh. [SPEAKER_10]: We told them, they were warned. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm not surprised at that.

[SPEAKER_09]: There's an NBC news poll that came out today as well. [SPEAKER_09]: Trump's ratings and immigration have just fallen through the floor. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not surprised. [SPEAKER_09]: Again, duh. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: But there is also another piece of polling. [SPEAKER_09]: It's up under the affordability matters section.

[SPEAKER_09]: that confirms rank and file Democrats, regular voters, people who maybe aren't even registered Democratic, but are registered independents, are demanding Democratic leaders take off the gloves against the old garks, the great piece from Emily Cook and the new Republican, and TNR did their own polling, and look 91% of people who vote Democratic.

[SPEAKER_09]: That includes Democrats, [SPEAKER_09]: What Democrats who are elected to raise taxes on corporations, 93% feel it's important to raise taxes on the rich.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, in fact Bernie Sanders is coming in to town this week or next this weekend or next I forget when Because there is a ballot measure going on the ballot in November It's a one-time literally it's a one-time 5% tax of people who earn over a billion dollars and I assume it's the billion in plus Well, and and there are a number of economists who have been saying [SPEAKER_09]: That's, this is, I mean, this is going to be good and it will be good for California's budget.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but a lot of the tech pros are saying, oh, we're going to leave. [SPEAKER_11]: They're not going to leave. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: They're not. [SPEAKER_09]: They, they raise taxes in Boston. [SPEAKER_09]: None of the rich people left. [SPEAKER_09]: They all stayed in fact, Boston is doing better.

[SPEAKER_09]: Everywhere they have raised taxes like that because among other things, you know, it's, it's, it would be like the, the local grocery store this here in my neighborhood. [SPEAKER_09]: And they suddenly decided to stop carrying, you know, my favorite orange juice. [SPEAKER_09]: In fact, they did actually one point. [SPEAKER_09]: And I just went, okay, and I just put that on my list by somewhere else during the week. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not a big deal.

[SPEAKER_09]: Am I going to move forwards? [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, OJ is pretty important, at least to me. [SPEAKER_09]: That's just one thing. [SPEAKER_09]: But am I going to, no, no, I'm not going to move forward. [SPEAKER_09]: Jack asks this. [SPEAKER_11]: And I mean, this, this billionaire tax, it's literally like a one-time tax. [SPEAKER_11]: It's not like it's constant, though it should be.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, and that's what I was saying, the economists are saying is that we need to be taxing billionaires and corporations a lot more. [SPEAKER_09]: A lot more. [SPEAKER_09]: So they can't go about their happy horse crap and messing around in elections and doing the things that they're doing thinking that, you know, this Trump Epstein class getting thinking they're getting away with stuff.

[SPEAKER_09]: No. [SPEAKER_09]: There's a there's a piece I noticed I didn't put it in the news on tap today, but I [SPEAKER_09]: He said that affordability is important. [SPEAKER_09]: And we're like, yeah, and then he's like, well, and he kind of danced around accountability. [SPEAKER_09]: But the fact of matter is, these two are extremely important. [SPEAKER_09]: And we've been saying this now for about what six months? [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, at least, yeah.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's nice to see the mainstream media finally catch up. [SPEAKER_09]: Congratulations, guys. [SPEAKER_09]: Wonderful. [SPEAKER_09]: We're so glad we're glad that you subscribed and are now stealing our work. [SPEAKER_09]: Fan, testing. [SPEAKER_09]: Congratulations. [SPEAKER_09]: Now you can do your job. [SPEAKER_09]: Now that someone else is actually done it for you.

[SPEAKER_11]: I just the thing that that would help with especially corporate taxes is because AI is going to ruin us. [SPEAKER_09]: If it's not regulated properly, that's what we were talking about somewhat with Bob yesterday. [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know if you and Bob and David we did talk about it a little bit because now apparently according to what Bob read AI grocery stores and other like online shops, especially you're going to start pricing based on your personal stuff.

[SPEAKER_11]: there's been there's a lot of argument and in some states they're already laws against it it's because it's price gouging right exactly hundred percent and delta airlines has already been busted for that but i said to bob i said so if i'm in a grocery store and i don't have anything on my phone i never buy anything with my phone i use cash or credit card but i don't use my phone so how would because you say they're going to have digital price changes you walk buying it changes to the price level that you're willing to pay

[SPEAKER_09]: So this is stuff that isn't even in the news on tap today, but it ties into multiple stories that actually are kind of in the news, including the Nancy Guthrie story. [SPEAKER_09]: And the, you remember how they said that that Nancy Guthrie did not subscribe to the, the service for the camera on her front door. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: And people are like, well, if you don't subscribe, they don't have it. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not recording, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: No. [SPEAKER_09]: still recording. [SPEAKER_09]: They all are recording. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, I mean, we are cameras. [SPEAKER_11]: We don't even pay for the service. [SPEAKER_11]: It's strange. [SPEAKER_11]: We just bought the cameras and they have yet to charge us a monthly fee, which is awesome. [SPEAKER_11]: And it goes up and we decide. [SPEAKER_11]: It'll stay for 30 days. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: And then we can download anything.

[SPEAKER_11]: that we desire to download. [SPEAKER_09]: But the way that the software folks say that virtually all of those types of cameras, the same way with your phones, that signal is always on. [SPEAKER_09]: It's like a radio. [SPEAKER_09]: It's like a little radio transmitter. [SPEAKER_11]: Unless you have a fair day bag and then you're safe. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, exactly. [SPEAKER_11]: So a lot of people are going to start buying those. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but here's the thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: There are lots and lots of pools of data piles. [SPEAKER_09]: And I actually, I figured this one out. [SPEAKER_09]: When I joined the 2000 in 2008, I joined the Obama Biden campaign. [SPEAKER_09]: I suggested some things that it first made people very uncomfortable with me. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_09]: The Trump campaign in 2016 had absolutely no compunctions about. [SPEAKER_09]: And I did a mining. [SPEAKER_11]: I would imagine.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, and it goes to exactly what you're talking about with your grocery store and how some some retailers have said that they may want to try to do these price things. [SPEAKER_09]: We can talk about that too. [SPEAKER_09]: I know it's not necessarily in the news on top. [SPEAKER_09]: There is a lot in the news on tap today, including Trump's flying F up. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we'll talk about that. [SPEAKER_09]: The bridge you want to sell you.

[SPEAKER_09]: No, that's not gonna work. [SPEAKER_09]: More on Trump's war over democracy. [SPEAKER_09]: Some potential scary news there. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk about some of that, too. [SPEAKER_09]: Of course, John Fughalsang is gonna be in because after all, it is Thursdays with Fughalsang. [SPEAKER_09]: I know, say that five times fast. [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, we also have a great drink of the day. [SPEAKER_09]: And if you understand what the drink of the day is, already, congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_09]: As I've said before, you are at the politics bar right now, and we thank you very much for being here with us. [SPEAKER_09]: Joe, do you and I were talking about taxes and regulation during the break because, you know, that's, look, this is how you get more of the things you, or actually say less of the things you don't want. [SPEAKER_09]: that that's what that's part of how tax is work.

[SPEAKER_11]: Well, like you give a tax break to people that want to manufacture back in the United States and you tax the hell out of them if they want to manufacture outside the United States. [SPEAKER_11]: So it brings jobs back and brings prices to it level that's a horrible and yet it's the whole thing with tariffs. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: which by the way for those of you who missed it. [SPEAKER_09]: Yesterday in case you in case you like how to that whole thing happens.

[SPEAKER_09]: Six House Republicans joined the Democrats to block Trump's tariffs on Canada. [SPEAKER_09]: However, it is a largely symbolic review. [SPEAKER_09]: And here's why. [SPEAKER_09]: So in order to actually take back tariff power, Congress, they could basically do it through a couple of different ways. [SPEAKER_09]: But first, they have to have veto proof votes, which last night's was not a veto proof vote.

[SPEAKER_09]: But if they pass it, they go through the Senate, it passes again, it'll end up on Trump's desk, and then he will veto it. [SPEAKER_09]: That's why you have to have a veto proof majority. [SPEAKER_09]: But what we're looking at is the National Emergencies Act. [SPEAKER_09]: Yo remember our last march when Tiny Johnson whipped his little thing out, and I'm not [SPEAKER_09]: to find out of the gutter.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm looking at the, he, with this little bill out that says today is one great big legislative day for the next year, which, but only on this one subject, that is ending March 31st at that point members of the house can once again bring up resolutions. [SPEAKER_09]: to vote on ending the tariffs. [SPEAKER_09]: And those won't necessarily have to be two-thirds. [SPEAKER_09]: Basically, it's a procedural mechanism to screw things up.

[SPEAKER_09]: To monkey things up, plus the Supreme Court still has their decision to come down on tariffs. [SPEAKER_09]: There are other ways to get rid of these tariffs. [SPEAKER_09]: But as we said before, blank tariffs don't really work. [SPEAKER_09]: Focus tariffs work. [SPEAKER_09]: But what you're looking at with the pricing is we were discussing for the break of retail places potentially going to individualized pricing is one of the phrases they use it it's wrong.

[SPEAKER_09]: You're right, it's price gouging. [SPEAKER_11]: It's price gouging. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it's like, okay, you wanted to know about this for this person in twenty dollars for that person. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, the twenty dollar person is getting gouged if they can afford to sell it for you. [SPEAKER_09]: You want to have it out? [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: All sorts of ways. [SPEAKER_09]: 2008, I, very first day, I arrived in Des Moines and go to the downtown campaign office.

[SPEAKER_09]: And immediately, people are like, oh, hey, you're media guy, and we have some media issues and I'm like, okay, there are things that we talked about. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm trying to remember, do we talk about it with BDD? [SPEAKER_09]: I know we talked about it with Bob before too, about how media organizations have been collecting data. [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah, I mean, we give it to them. [SPEAKER_09]: for 25 years. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, right, but especially like radio stations.

[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, guys. [SPEAKER_09]: I know, you know, the most of ours I don't think are, but there are some out there. [SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, your big ones, your your Odyssey. [SPEAKER_09]: I heard. [SPEAKER_09]: I heard right exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: I hard, especially because I had experience when they were clear channel and yes, they've been collecting data for a very long time. [SPEAKER_09]: They haven't been doing anything with it.

[SPEAKER_09]: They have monstrous piles of data that they would have to pay somebody to actually handle. [SPEAKER_09]: But that's just one organization, one business that has been taking data, lots of them. [SPEAKER_09]: Corporations, private groups, labor organizations, social media. [SPEAKER_09]: big times social media. [SPEAKER_09]: They've all been gathered, but they're individual piles.

[SPEAKER_09]: So I get into this Obama campaign office and they're like, okay, well, God, we really would like to target these people better. [SPEAKER_09]: And of course, I bring my media skills. [SPEAKER_09]: And they're like, well, hey, we have these, these voter lists, these lists of people. [SPEAKER_09]: Now, have you ever done, um, door knocking for campaigns, [SPEAKER_11]: I don't like my door being knocked on, so I don't want to knock on anybody else's door.

[SPEAKER_11]: I understand, I understand. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, it's still a very common thing for most political campaigns. [SPEAKER_09]: And you can get a voter list as a campaign. [SPEAKER_09]: And it tells you some basic facts. [SPEAKER_09]: Not necessarily, they don't tell you names. [SPEAKER_09]: They don't give you information that way. [SPEAKER_09]: But they tell you obviously the address.

[SPEAKER_09]: And it tells you how many people are in the house and what they're registered and what they voted for like the last two or three elections. [UNKNOWN]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: And I immediately took bring my minuscales and I said, wait a minute, you have the address, right? [SPEAKER_09]: And they're like, yeah, and I said, and you have some knowledge of who's in the house, you know, two males over 18 and one female.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, okay, well, we know in that house, by other data that's out there, like the data at your grocery store, like the data at your target store, your Walmart, or your online purchases from wherever. [SPEAKER_09]: And I said, why don't we take this pile of data? [SPEAKER_09]: We can play with this pile of data. [SPEAKER_09]: And then get the pile of data over here from the median. [SPEAKER_09]: We can play it all of these.

[SPEAKER_09]: And then we're going to have a whole bunch of data. [SPEAKER_09]: And then we can take this and we can push people in directions because we know what makes them happy and what makes them sad. [SPEAKER_09]: That was the reaction that I got. [SPEAKER_09]: It was a, you can't do that. [SPEAKER_09]: And we don't do that. [SPEAKER_09]: And we don't talk about it that way from it. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, sorry.

[SPEAKER_09]: The mind, which as we all know, that's exactly what the Donald Trump campaign and the Russians did. [SPEAKER_11]: And they used meta to do it. [SPEAKER_09]: What they are doing with your phone doesn't have to be, have apps for it. [SPEAKER_09]: Your phone is constantly broadcasting a signal, just like a radio signal. [SPEAKER_09]: And its signal is identified by a specific identifier number, which you may or may not know how to get.

[SPEAKER_09]: Those little, [SPEAKER_09]: digital price things that are in the stores, many of them also have Bluetooth in them, and when you come within range, they have this nifty little way of reaching out to just kind of see who's out there, not necessarily connecting, but just see, oh well, I can see your phone.

[SPEAKER_09]: and it reads your phone's number and as soon as it reads your phone's number, they've connected to another database and that database has connected that number elsewhere and they've conflated those databases and now they know who you are and they know you like ice cream or they know you like cereal or they know you like people go oh crap I go now what if what if you're like me and you don't do anything you don't buy anything on your phone you just use it as a phone does like phone numbers and photographs and that's it.

[SPEAKER_09]: your phone numbers attached to you and you are attached to your home address. [SPEAKER_09]: True. [SPEAKER_09]: You've ever bought anything online anywhere. [SPEAKER_09]: Of course, but congratulations. [SPEAKER_09]: They will conflate all of these and now they have all the other information. [SPEAKER_11]: Now what if your phone it doesn't have the Bluetooth turn on or you have it off? [SPEAKER_09]: If you have your phone off, it's like a radio station that's not broadcasting.

[SPEAKER_11]: So there you go. [SPEAKER_11]: So is that problem? [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: But the long and short of it is we don't have the privacy. [SPEAKER_09]: laws. [SPEAKER_09]: We don't have the regulations just like we were talking about with AI. [SPEAKER_09]: We're just talking basic privacy laws. [SPEAKER_09]: We don't have the basic. [SPEAKER_09]: There's a ton of not more regulation, but proper regulation.

[SPEAKER_09]: I always hate the right-wing argument about, well, there needs to be more regulation, less regulation. [SPEAKER_09]: It needs to be correct regulation. [SPEAKER_09]: It needs to be the right things. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, look, in the affordability matter section of the news on tap, there's new data from the Census Bureau. [SPEAKER_09]: The Census Bureau collects data on Americans constantly.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So that members of Congress and nominally the executive branch. [SPEAKER_09]: are supposed to be able to say, this is what people need, and this is what they want, so we're trying to do what's best for them. [SPEAKER_09]: The current regime who doesn't give a damn about anybody else but themselves, but that's, we'll deal with that in a bit.

[SPEAKER_09]: But that is why this sense, the Census Bureau says right now that the data they have, the new data says that there are growing financial struggles for the lots of people, especially seniors and renters and rural [SPEAKER_09]: Realtors are reporting, uh, new housing crisis, January home sales tanked more than eight percent. [SPEAKER_09]: Not surprised. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, and the Trump DOJ, by the way, they're going to step in for ticket master.

[SPEAKER_09]: Say, well, we're going to protect your ability to gouge the hell out of people. [SPEAKER_11]: Remember when Connelly said she's going to go after them and said her to Elizabeth Warren. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no. [SPEAKER_09]: Trump and his regime are like, let's protect these fat cats.

[SPEAKER_09]: all of this is data folks and all of this ties to each one of us and we don't have the privacy regulations so that's I mean the closest thing we got was when you sign on to a new website your cookie preferences. [SPEAKER_09]: which I like cookies, just not those kind. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: Now, but I mean, they literally go, and I always say, no, nothing that's not necessary. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: But even with that, they still, because they're collecting your information, even the stuff that's interact. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's, look, it's it's, uh, remember the old dial-up modems. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm, green, uh, yeah, uh, yeah, everybody said, you know, and if you knew any of the lingo was always called a handshake. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: because the outgoing in the end coming have to virtually meet virtually agree on a communication style.

[SPEAKER_09]: Think of it as a language. [SPEAKER_09]: Like when you talk to that girl and you bought that thing in Europe, you guys have to agree on a language. [SPEAKER_09]: So you meet, you agree on a language, then you can communicate. [SPEAKER_09]: even though we're not hearing that high pitch screech on a modem, that's still exactly how every directional bidirectional connection on the internet works.

[SPEAKER_09]: So if you're getting information from somewhere, you're giving them information by the fact that you're there. [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, you know, showing up outside of McDonald's. [SPEAKER_09]: they have security cameras in theory if they want to, and that's part of how they're trying to find this person who kidnapped Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy Guthrie, is they're finding, that's some of the things that they're finding with the cameras.

[SPEAKER_09]: When you can play all these data piles together, the things you can do if you have them conflated are enormous. [SPEAKER_09]: and they are a lot of dangers to the economy. [SPEAKER_09]: Outside of the dangers that Donald Trump and his idiots have been creating with respect to the tariffs and all of those issues with respect to the fact that the Trump regime and the Republicans in Congress got rid of so many things with the green energy.

[SPEAKER_09]: And so of course, companies say, well, it doesn't benefit me anymore because I'm getting taxed over here and I'm getting less benefit over here. [SPEAKER_09]: So now I'm shifting my business [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, oh my god, I go, there's a lot that we should be doing that we haven't done as a country. [SPEAKER_09]: So we're going to have a lot to clean up out there, folks. [SPEAKER_09]: It's just the way it is.

[SPEAKER_09]: And if you're wondering about how that pertains to things like, for example, the immigration moors. [SPEAKER_09]: That's how they know that they have some of their systems that are designed to find people. [SPEAKER_09]: That's how the ICs and the CVP people are tracking some of the protesters, is those same kinds of data piles have been conflated to track folks that way.

[SPEAKER_09]: So, look, there's a lot of stuff, but I remain cautiously optimistic not to borrow a phrase from Governor Walls [SPEAKER_09]: There are still great people fighting all kinds of great things today. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm in a sort of attorney general, Keith Ellison was here in DC in a Senate hearing. [SPEAKER_09]: I still hear tonight. [SPEAKER_09]: I think he's on with Jen Sockie now.

[SPEAKER_09]: He confirmed that the Trump administration is still not cooperating on the pretty and good investigation. [SPEAKER_09]: First, they're not. [SPEAKER_09]: I both know that. [SPEAKER_09]: You knew they weren't going to do that. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, we just need a tampondie yesterday told me that. [SPEAKER_09]: exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: They all think they're above the law in the Trump regime. [SPEAKER_09]: And yet they do things half-assed as hell for example.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I agree with you on that, but there was a test vote in the Senate today, procedural vote on the Senate about the trying to get the DHS funded, Department of Homeland Security. [SPEAKER_09]: Senate Democrats are holding firm on their demand for significant changes to ICE. [SPEAKER_09]: And if you guys want them to continue, [SPEAKER_09]: You know what to do. [SPEAKER_09]: You know the number 20223121. [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_11]: Just give them your zip code and they will tell you your Senators and your Congressperson. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Here's the other thing. [SPEAKER_09]: You also need to call them about the vote because in the second round, the war over democracies. [SPEAKER_09]: So House Republicans rammed through the save act last night. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, that election restriction bill is on the doorstep. [SPEAKER_11]: Quite a lot of money for that, right?

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, unfortunately one Democrat did who is well, I mean, he's he's a very right-wing Democrat he is but Here's the thing The Senate it would need 60 votes to get through that [SPEAKER_09]: But you still need to call your member of Congress. [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely two, two, four, three, one, two, one. [SPEAKER_09]: Call them and say, no, you cannot vote on that.

[SPEAKER_09]: I actually have a piece that I put in in the second round today in the war over democracy that talks about. [SPEAKER_09]: There is real fear and there are scarecows. [SPEAKER_09]: But look, we got a lot of people fighting on a lot of paths. [SPEAKER_09]: And we are basically fighting these monsters to a draw right now in a whole lot of places. [SPEAKER_09]: That doesn't mean that we're winning.

[SPEAKER_09]: but contrary to what a lot of the mainstream media wants you to think we're also not losing. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: We're at an in-pass which is better than getting your ass kicked. [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: And it still means we have plenty of chances to win. [SPEAKER_09]: So everybody got to do their part. [SPEAKER_09]: That's just how it goes. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So. [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, speak up doing their part.

[SPEAKER_09]: We've got to talk about we, you know, it's Jody and I, right guys, you, you, you, you, you and I, we talk about this because it's just you and I most of the time here doing stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: Occasionally, Jared will come help out, whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: We were, we were looking for help. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, so somebody kind of audition, um, she did not do so well. [SPEAKER_11]: No, she was, I mean, [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, she's not great is that's a good way to play it not not great.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, well, well, we'll play her audition for you here. [SPEAKER_09]: So you guys can tell that also obviously John Figuo saying coming up. [SPEAKER_09]: We have the drink of the day as well. [SPEAKER_09]: And we've been hinting at it. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I know we kind of stumbled onto this yesterday actually a little bit during the drink of the day because you know yesterday's was the Irish latte It was [SPEAKER_09]: which I actually had two giant coffees. [SPEAKER_09]: You, for those of you who have seen on our YouTube channel, I have this giant Nebraska corn huskers mug back from when I was the executive producer or the Huskers Sports Radiant Network.

[SPEAKER_09]: It is a typical radio station DJ mug, which basically means it's about two of your regular coffee mug. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, because it's not like we don't drink coffee or anything. [SPEAKER_09]: I, too, those today. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, woohoo, but you know, I, I do like my coffee. [SPEAKER_09]: That's just, it's just a thing. [SPEAKER_09]: But I do also like occasionally to have something with it. [SPEAKER_09]: And my go-to for that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: If I'm going for sweet, my go-to is a biscotti. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Because among other things, well, okay, some kinds of biscotti have more crumbs than others. [SPEAKER_09]: True. [SPEAKER_09]: But if you get a good one, and it's not super crummy, it doesn't leave the control board a mess. [SPEAKER_09]: So you don't leave everything now, and you're like, it's not bad. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, counter-tops are not a mess, it's a good thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, that you have a coffee, you're doing pretty well. [SPEAKER_09]: And that, of course, leads us to the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_09]: Which, Jody, what is the drink of the day? [SPEAKER_11]: It is a Venetian cocktail, which is inspired by the first national Biscotti day this year. [SPEAKER_11]: Apparently there is another one in September, I don't know why.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I was like when I when I saw that initially when I saw it yesterday before yesterday's drink that I was Wait a minute. [SPEAKER_09]: There's two there's two. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, maybe maybe one's an American based maybe I mean whatever it's I don't know I like the little a tell them Italian almond biscuits. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_09]: They're pretty good Of course we have some some Italian in there as well and people are hearing more Italian obviously because of the Olympics right which is pretty good [SPEAKER_09]: did you see that series on CNN with Stanley Tucci? [SPEAKER_11]: No, when he goes around like eating food everywhere or something, I love him and I did not watch that.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's not like well they're they've they've NBC has has brought him on like they brought on a snoop they brought on a Tucci in as well to do little things and it's it's interesting [SPEAKER_09]: But I still get this idea that he's like, almost like, yeah, okay, I'm here. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just collecting a paycheck because NBC's paying. [SPEAKER_11]: I hope he's getting paid well because he's deserving of any and all my needs. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, he can't test the task.

[SPEAKER_09]: The new devil worst product, too, is gonna be very interesting. [SPEAKER_11]: He's so good. [SPEAKER_11]: I love him so much. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know anybody who isn't good in that. [SPEAKER_11]: Did you have the first time I discovered him was on a TV series called Murder One in the early morning? [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I remember that. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: He tears up anything, this is so good. [SPEAKER_09]: But obviously, we like the Italian.

[SPEAKER_09]: We like all of the history of Miss Scotty. [SPEAKER_09]: I think you put a great one together on that. [SPEAKER_09]: But, you know, Miss Scotty, some places it goes with coffee. [SPEAKER_09]: Here in the United States, I've had it with Hachoklin before, and I know that Italians look at that and they cringe. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh my God, with Hachoklin, but then again, most Europeans look at and go seriously. [SPEAKER_09]: You guys need to get off the sugar, that's.

[SPEAKER_09]: whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_11]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_11]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: But we do have a different drink today. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not a coffee or tea. [SPEAKER_09]: No. [SPEAKER_11]: It's a cocktail, kids. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Because you're in a bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: What is what is in a Venetian cocktail today, Joe? [SPEAKER_11]: Well, you're going to need a missing glass, some ice, a bar spoon.

[SPEAKER_11]: That's for your stirring. [SPEAKER_11]: A strainer. [SPEAKER_11]: It says a jewelip strainer, but any strainer will do.

[SPEAKER_11]: uh... a pre-chilled neck and nori glass and out that's a smaller one announced it we use a lot of neck and nori glasses because it's it's it's a cute little glass it's not a heavy it's not a big good for cocktails yeah it's a perfect little glass for that uh... one ounce of gin a half ounce of driver mooth so now we're getting into martini territory right and a half ounce of amaretto that's absolutely a flavor comes from exactly and a half ounce of compara for that's worth the other flavor and the look of it to what it's like

[SPEAKER_11]: And you garnish with a lemon twist, and so what you do is you add all of the ingredients to your mixing glass, add ice and stir it to chill, strain it into the Nick and Nora glass and express the lemon twist over the drink and throw it on in there. [SPEAKER_09]: But enjoy your biscotti. [SPEAKER_09]: It's good, you know? [SPEAKER_09]: And look, to be honest, I think this drink would go well with it. [SPEAKER_09]: If you prefer coffee, that's fine.

[SPEAKER_09]: Just however you want to celebrate National Biscotti Day, that's on you, man. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: You know? [SPEAKER_09]: There's another one on September. [SPEAKER_09]: So if you miss it, don't worry. [SPEAKER_09]: If you did miss anything in the drink of the day, though, the best thing you could do is subscribe at thepoliticsbar.com.

[SPEAKER_09]: Since we are in the idly corner of the bar here, uh, why don't we zip down to the fifth round and be the entertainment and more the Olympic recap Americans Madison chalk and Evan Bates got that did you did you see there there now I did I heard it's just so close. [SPEAKER_09]: like one and a half points way. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, Eliana, how he beat the Japanese guy was only like two points. [SPEAKER_11]: You know, I mean, it's, it's, it's razor.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, some of the most amazing skaters that the Canadian couple was freaking amazing. [SPEAKER_09]: The French couple was okay, but not. [SPEAKER_09]: I looked at nine, like I saw at least two errors they made. [SPEAKER_11]: That's why I think that they fell during his long. [SPEAKER_11]: But he did the back flip and they're like, now he used to be illegal to do a back flip. [SPEAKER_11]: Meals and females were not allowed to do it.

[SPEAKER_11]: And there was a French athlete in the 90s that did it. [SPEAKER_11]: And she did it. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah, yeah, she was great. [SPEAKER_11]: She was amazing skater and she wasn't. [SPEAKER_11]: She was the first one to do it in competition, knowing full well that they would take it off the first score. [SPEAKER_07]: And she went screwed. [SPEAKER_09]: I want to do anyway. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, because it's, and she could land on one leg.

[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it was amazing, you know. [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, no, the Madison Chuck and Evan Bates did really well in the ice. [SPEAKER_09]: They got one more chance. [SPEAKER_09]: Cross-country skier, Jesse Diggins collapsed in pain, but she did win a bronze. [SPEAKER_09]: Cross the, cross the finish line one. [SPEAKER_09]: And she did a news conference.

[SPEAKER_09]: uh... where she was talking about how i guess she used to have an eating disorder and she said she didn't think that she would you know that she was going to live that long when she was eighteen she now so this is her fourth Olympics she is one lot of metal she's a lot of stuff so how what was the injury that she had [SPEAKER_09]: It's just the fact that she was so burnt. [SPEAKER_09]: She was so toasted because she just was pushing herself.

[SPEAKER_11]: So probably cramping and pain and things like that. [SPEAKER_09]: But look, I mean, Olympic stuff is not easy. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, you're breezy Johnson wiped out on the hill today. [SPEAKER_09]: Actually, they had a bunch of them in the super gee about 17 people wipe out on the super gee today.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh. [SPEAKER_09]: is not that it's dangerous that's really dangerous to true but she also had something else happen breezy Johnson we talked about this yesterday her boyfriend proposed to her right after the finish line which what do we say about this yesterday [SPEAKER_11]: I'm not for it. [SPEAKER_11]: I think it's it's a personal thing. [SPEAKER_11]: That's not for it. [SPEAKER_11]: It's probably consumption. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, whatever.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'll get in say, you know, that's up to them to judge, but it's still. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a little weird. [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, whatever. [SPEAKER_11]: So I'm not a fan. [SPEAKER_11]: I will never be a fan. [SPEAKER_11]: I just don't. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, unless you unless the woman's going, you're going to take me here and you're going to propose to me on the jumbo tron. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not for it. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Or the other way around.

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_09]: But I mean, you know, um, the uh, the skeleton register we've talking about from Ukraine. [SPEAKER_09]: But he was told that if he wore his training helmet, the one that honors the athletes who were killed by the Russians, that the rules say you can't do personal stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: on your uniform. [SPEAKER_09]: And he did it anyway. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, you know what? [SPEAKER_09]: Good for him.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, you know what, I feel bad, but at the same time, he made a statement. [SPEAKER_11]: And he knew what he was got. [SPEAKER_11]: He knew that he would get to qualify. [SPEAKER_11]: So it's not like he didn't know about the flip. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: There is one more story in the Olympic recap. [SPEAKER_09]: Remember that cheating Olympian we talked about yesterday's girlfriend.

[SPEAKER_09]: We have the story about that cheating Olympian's girlfriend speaks out after his confession to the world.

[SPEAKER_09]: that that is another thing if you're going to just that that is very definitely something you should be private and personal that's yeah any who yeah all those stories and more they are in the news on tap uh... quick couple of notes here in the rest in peace section but court star of Harold and mom died at seventy seven which i mean you know he had a number you're seventy seven that old but still [SPEAKER_11]: But still, he was, I mean, come on, Harold and Mod.

[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, that's just it. [SPEAKER_11]: And now he's back with Ruth Gordon. [SPEAKER_09]: So there you go. [SPEAKER_09]: James Vanderbeak, he was only 48. [SPEAKER_09]: That's, I really liked, you know, I didn't get in Dawson's Creek. [SPEAKER_09]: But I liked some of the other stuff he did. [SPEAKER_09]: And I really liked his, his performance in varsity blues. [SPEAKER_11]: He it's just he was so young and you don't even get tested.

[SPEAKER_11]: Well now they're saying get tested at 45. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: You should be 50. [SPEAKER_11]: 50 was that now they're saying I mean a friend of mine's wife got it at 39. [SPEAKER_11]: Wow. [SPEAKER_11]: And died like a year or two later. [SPEAKER_11]: She was a baby. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean we saw her because they came down to visit. [SPEAKER_11]: years ago, people I went to college with, and I remember when she died.

[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, her birthday is January 3rd, so every year, I say something to her widower, because I think he's finally dating. [SPEAKER_11]: Good, good. [SPEAKER_11]: She's been gone a while, I mean. [SPEAKER_09]: It takes to take different people different times to do that, but I am also glad for people helping. [SPEAKER_09]: So the fundraiser for James Vanderbeaks family has now surpassed a million. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, they need that money too. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they have six kids.

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know the whole life insurance situation at all. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, I mean, because he was, I believe he was working on, um, found. [SPEAKER_11]: So he was making a little bit of money before he got to sick. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_11]: Um, and, but still, I mean, unless his wife was working and his residuals for Dawson Creek, you know, have gone way down. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: Um, and I'm sure he got well paid for anything he was doing.

[SPEAKER_11]: But, uh, and, and the pension is great for sag, but it's not going to, [SPEAKER_09]: So it's, I mean, there's going to have to be some change there. [SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, and I'm sure that they had talked about it and planned for it. [SPEAKER_11]: But I feel terrible for his whole family. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, obviously they were prepared for it, which sucks. [SPEAKER_11]: But it just sucks all the way around. [SPEAKER_11]: I really feel bad for them.

[SPEAKER_09]: death is not exactly enjoyable to say the least there is one other death that not exactly human death and this is more of a an ethical death so Gallup has decided that they are going to stop tracking presidential approval ratings after 88 years I don't understand that you know who actually figured it out bill crystal [SPEAKER_09]: This is one of the reasons why we have people, like we had Sherry in here yesterday.

[SPEAKER_09]: Why we're trying to get Bruce Bruce is like, I don't know if it's coming. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not going to answer that anyway, but you know why we have Joe Walsh, because the right understands where some of these holes in the system are. [SPEAKER_09]: So Bill Crystal, like me, was like, that doesn't make any sense. [SPEAKER_09]: Gallup has been the gold standard publishing presidential approval ratings.

[SPEAKER_09]: And then he went and looked elsewhere, dinked around on their website, guess what he found on the Gallup website? [SPEAKER_09]: They're bragging about their federal contracts. [SPEAKER_11]: That's it. [SPEAKER_09]: I was wondering if it was White House related, and it obviously is obviously is it's like you gotless turds. [SPEAKER_09]: So the thing the thing bothers me too, one of the things, Gallup started in Nebraska.

[SPEAKER_09]: I used to be able to walk over to the Gallup headquarters and what was in Lincoln. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, the building was not that hard to get into to say in anyway, but

[SPEAKER_09]: right now not exactly a fan of gallop um y'all bend them knee you're all going to learn that's not the way to do it actually we have some polling we're going to talk more about that because it's telling democrats you guys need to go you need to stand up and you need to fight and uh we definitely want to talk about that coming up next hour john fugle saying we'll be coming in as well we're going to talk about uh Donald Trump's flying f-up

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[SPEAKER_09]: And while the polling is scattered throughout the news on tap today, the long and short makes it clear, Democrats should be going a lot more. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to say aggressive, but they need to be assertive. [SPEAKER_11]: That's a good word. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_09]: There is a difference, by the way. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yes, there is. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, a lot of people don't quite understand the difference. [SPEAKER_09]: I know you do.

[SPEAKER_09]: How would you describe [SPEAKER_11]: Aggressive is Pam Bondi. [SPEAKER_11]: Sort of a tent loop. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: No. [SPEAKER_11]: I like tent loop. [SPEAKER_09]: That's great. [SPEAKER_09]: Tense followed me on different social media. [SPEAKER_11]: I met him twice. [SPEAKER_11]: He's a lovely man. [SPEAKER_09]: Congress will lose a very nice guy. [SPEAKER_09]: We should maybe ask him to see if we can get him in the bar. [SPEAKER_11]: I'll see what I can do.

[SPEAKER_09]: Hmm, be great. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, the thing is, aggressive is you go up and punch somebody in the face. [SPEAKER_09]: So it is, you stand there and you say you're not going to punch me in the face. [SPEAKER_09]: And if somebody tries, you punch him back, stop him from doing it. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Assertive is you holding your ground. [SPEAKER_09]: Aggressive is you going on as somebody else's ground. [SPEAKER_09]: Democrats do need to be assertive.

[SPEAKER_09]: And they need to be assertive in the right ways. [SPEAKER_09]: We need to do better regulation. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not that we need more, it's that we need things fixed, we need things better, and we need to not be afraid to go after the people who have the money. [SPEAKER_10]: To go after the people who are screwing things up for the rest of us. [SPEAKER_10]: The Epstein class.

[SPEAKER_09]: Trump Epstein class well there is that's what it's starting to be called is the Trump Epstein elite it's that's getting into the vernacular right now we should we should keep calling of the Trump Epstein class because that is honestly who they are they are people who they have so much money.

[SPEAKER_09]: and they are so arrogant think they can do whatever the damn full hell they want to do and they simply can't in fact actually so one of the things that's come out yesterday good old panty in her little burn book among other things she had snapshots snap shots of members of congress and what they were looking up in the Epstein files [SPEAKER_09]: Remember how we were talking about tracking earlier?

[SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, they only have four computers, so it's a little bit easier because each one of these members of Congress has to log in with a login and password that Pam and the Trump DOJ gave them. [SPEAKER_09]: So obviously, clearly easy to track them that way. [SPEAKER_09]: Also against separation of powers. [SPEAKER_09]: So [SPEAKER_09]: bit wrong, Pammy, and yet you're like, hey, well, obviously, she's like, who's going to rest me for it?

[SPEAKER_09]: I, I want to be there on the day when somebody wipes that smirk offer face. [SPEAKER_11]: She's just, I mean, listening to when I, I'm with you. [SPEAKER_11]: was it Ted Lou or Dan Goldman? [SPEAKER_11]: I forget who it was that said, did you hire? [SPEAKER_11]: It was Ted Lou. [SPEAKER_11]: I think did you hire this person from January 6th? [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: And she's like who? [SPEAKER_11]: And then, you know, she finally figures out who it isn't.

[SPEAKER_11]: He's she's like, yes, we did. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the person gets up in her ear. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: And so she figures out who it is. [SPEAKER_11]: And then he asks, well, ish, you know, that he wanted to kill the police in blah, blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_11]: And you know, hit that he pled guilty, and he was imprisoned in blah, blah, blah, blah.

[SPEAKER_09]: She goes, well, he was pardoned by Donald Trump, and he's like, oh, so it's okay if they mess with it's like, I wish I wish he'd gone once to further though and said and said, so you hire criminals,

[SPEAKER_09]: Just because he's pardon doesn't mean he's not a felon you have to agree to the crime that you committed in order to accept a pardon which is why Michael Cohen didn't do that right exactly a pardon is an admission of guilt you are admitting that you did something hi congratulations you're a criminal the pardon is saying pardon you you're you're it's only pardon me pardon me but no but you are you are getting them off of the punishment but they are still admitting the crime

[SPEAKER_09]: whether or not Pam, he realized that she admitted that the Trump DOJ hires criminals. [SPEAKER_11]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I'm sure most of ICE is Jay Sixers. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Some type of monsters that way. [SPEAKER_09]: We know the ICE monsters are, you know, they are involved that way. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, but Pam Bonnie, [SPEAKER_09]: not the genius she thinks she is.

[SPEAKER_09]: Um, accidentally out in an undercut of undercover FBI agent during the Epstein files blunder yesterday. [SPEAKER_11]: I saw the video, but CNN had blocked his face. [SPEAKER_09]: right still we've got a link to the story in the news on tap you guys can check that out.

[SPEAKER_09]: And the biggest thing that I'm seeing in some of the chatter online is is something Julie Kay Brown obviously the great reporter for the Miami-Herald has her own uh sub-stack and she has a piece on that today that Bonnie Shreddenhouse obscured for a lot of people the fact that Pam Bonnie's the one who dropped the ball in the Epstein case originally. [SPEAKER_11]: She is in Florida. [SPEAKER_11]: along with Alex Acosta. [SPEAKER_11]: They both did.

[SPEAKER_09]: But Alex Acosta was the Fed above her. [SPEAKER_09]: She was the attorney general of Florida and the crimes that were being committed are crimes under Florida law. [SPEAKER_09]: the Republican was going after her and she's like, oh, well, Garland did this and he's like, this goes all the way back to the Bush years. [SPEAKER_09]: But the fact of the matter is, this is the piece that you're responsible for, Panny.

[SPEAKER_11]: Well, that's a thing when she was like, what about Marick Garland? [SPEAKER_11]: We'll talk to him. [SPEAKER_11]: We're talking to you right now. [SPEAKER_09]: exactly what about my sister well talk we'll talk to your sister later exactly something I'm sure you heard in your house from your folks I was the good kid [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, being, being that we are both middle children, I know how that one works. [SPEAKER_11]: Hey, they, they ganged up on me.

[SPEAKER_09]: No, I'm with you, I'm, look, I was always the one who, you know, ended up being responsible. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, how the hell did that work out? [SPEAKER_09]: How the hell am I stuck with this? [SPEAKER_09]: What the hell is this crap? [SPEAKER_09]: That's a nice thing. [SPEAKER_09]: But the fact of the matter is, Pam needs to answer for what you didn't do.

[SPEAKER_09]: Not necessarily now, as attorney general, there's stuff, I mean, we could go after for that, but she needs to answer for her initial failure to deal with Epstein when she was the attorney general of Florida. [SPEAKER_09]: And that is 100% fair game. [SPEAKER_09]: And I know she doesn't think it is. [SPEAKER_09]: but it absolutely totally is. [SPEAKER_11]: What people are referring to her as Donald Trump's Gillian Maxwell. [SPEAKER_09]: Ooh, I like that.

[SPEAKER_11]: Look, she's protecting the pedophiles. [SPEAKER_09]: She is that, and she, it was her job to go after them. [SPEAKER_09]: It was her job to get a conviction. [SPEAKER_09]: 2006 we now know that Donald Trump at least told somebody in law enforcement all the way back in 2006. [SPEAKER_09]: So we know that Donald at least knew that there was something hanky going on. [SPEAKER_09]: Clearly, that is also fair game.

[SPEAKER_09]: Even if you say, well, you know, Donald Trump is present now. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but you know, the stuff that the Supreme Court ruled on. [SPEAKER_09]: That stuff, while he's president, anything that happened before that, or if he survives, anything that happens after that is 100% fair game. [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: Presidency only protects you while you're in office.

[SPEAKER_09]: And clearly, all the way back to 2006, Donald Trump knew that there was something going on with Jeffrey Epstein that was not on the up and up. [SPEAKER_09]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: So. [SPEAKER_09]: Folks, y'all can dig in. [SPEAKER_09]: First person I would go talk to if you all are looking forward, especially if you're any one of the members of Congress, you're happening one of the staffers, congratulations. [SPEAKER_09]: Go talk to Julie K. Brown.

[SPEAKER_09]: Go read everything that she's done. [SPEAKER_09]: because she will point you in the right direction of the information that you need to be looking for. [SPEAKER_09]: It is out there. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's some of the stuff that I don't even think the Trump regime has figured out. [SPEAKER_09]: They are too busy causing crimes and causing problems today. [SPEAKER_09]: Like, Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: So this stupid ass thing down in El Paso.

[SPEAKER_09]: The flying F up is what I call it. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: There are multiple conflicting reports. [SPEAKER_09]: Now, some now say that the Department of Defense was testing a laser. [SPEAKER_09]: They have drone shooting lasers. [SPEAKER_11]: They're using the Ukraine. [SPEAKER_11]: Sharks, you know, on the shark's heads? [SPEAKER_09]: They're not freaking shark's lasers. [SPEAKER_09]: They are. [SPEAKER_09]: They actually do have them.

[SPEAKER_09]: Ukraine is being used to it. [SPEAKER_11]: Are they ill-tempered bass, though? [SPEAKER_09]: Well, not in LA, because there's a great bass in LA. [SPEAKER_09]: That's true. [SPEAKER_09]: That's true. [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway. [SPEAKER_09]: No, there actually is drone shooting lasers. [SPEAKER_09]: Ukraine has been using them against the Russians. [SPEAKER_09]: I think unfortunately, the Russians have been using them. [SPEAKER_09]: The other reaction too.

[SPEAKER_09]: But so our Department of Defense was using one of these multiple stories says that DOD was testing a laser and didn't tell the FAA. [SPEAKER_09]: Now there's another story where CVP is saying they were given a laser by DOD and they were trying to shoot down a Mexican cartel drill. [SPEAKER_09]: Then there's a third story that says CBP was was trying to shoot down something. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what in up shooting now, party balloons.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, the party city guys in a lot of trouble for sending that balloon up. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, damn party city guys. [SPEAKER_11]: Was it a gender reveal party? [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, actually depending on Texas, yeah, given that so many of those gender reveals go wrong in Texas, you could be right on that.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'll give you the [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it's just like, guys, talk to each other and I was telling you earlier about the, I heard a Delta Airlines pilot talking to, yeah, I missed this. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, talking to the bar and talking to control down on the ground at the, right, so the pilot was talking to control tower. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: And so she says, you know, you can't land, you've gotta, you gotta find it.

[SPEAKER_11]: You gotta, we have to divert all flights. [SPEAKER_11]: And he's like, what, when did you find this out? [SPEAKER_11]: She goes, I don't know, 30 minutes an hour ago. [SPEAKER_11]: And he's like, uh, for how long she goes, uh, I'm not sure at this point. [SPEAKER_11]: He goes, you open to Mars. [SPEAKER_11]: She goes, I don't know. [SPEAKER_11]: He goes, well, you be there. [SPEAKER_11]: She goes, maybe, but we're not expecting you guys to be here. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_11]: And he just went, oh, Mike, you know. [SPEAKER_09]: She's like, she's like, we'll be here because we have to, because they can open it up any time. [SPEAKER_09]: But, uh, yeah, uh, the lack of communication between all of these is just insane. [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, look. [SPEAKER_09]: It could just pop into the bar here. [SPEAKER_09]: The one the only John Field was saying, coming in the bar from the LA Bureau. [SPEAKER_09]: How are you doing today, man?

[SPEAKER_06]: I never know when this is part of the actual show where we're in a commercial break and just having real banter. [SPEAKER_09]: We're in the show. [SPEAKER_08]: We're in the show. [SPEAKER_09]: We're in the show. [SPEAKER_09]: And people are still here. [SPEAKER_09]: They're here. [SPEAKER_06]: Because I arrived ready to be fake. [SPEAKER_06]: So this is good. [SPEAKER_06]: Thanks so much. [SPEAKER_06]: Hi everybody. [SPEAKER_09]: Hi. [SPEAKER_09]: Wait a minute.

[SPEAKER_09]: You said you were arrived to be fake. [SPEAKER_09]: Are you pretending to be Pam Bondi? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, pad body was anything but fake my friend. [SPEAKER_06]: The NAS came off and we just got hours of cr... you mean future law school case study, pad body? [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, the crazy was on display, my friend. [SPEAKER_06]: The crazy brought notes and charts and a wagerboard it screamed at. [UNKNOWN]: Oh. [SPEAKER_09]: I am so we've got to talk about Pam body.

[SPEAKER_09]: We've got it. [SPEAKER_09]: We were just talking about the flying F up in El Paso and how the FAA and the DOD and the CBP weren't giving any information to each other. [SPEAKER_06]: I can't wait for Michael Wolf to write seven books to explain what really happened there by the end of next week. [SPEAKER_06]: We won't know for a while. [SPEAKER_09]: No, no, you won't get into the internet's week. [SPEAKER_09]: He'll do like Jake Tapper.

[SPEAKER_09]: He'll wait another like three years. [SPEAKER_09]: And then you can have the book. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Michael Wolf doesn't wait to publish lots of books about this. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_06]: No, you're right. [SPEAKER_06]: That's true. [SPEAKER_06]: He's Michael. [SPEAKER_06]: He's published two since this banter began. [SPEAKER_09]: So John Fuckel saying is here after all, it is Thursday night here at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_09]: We will talk with him about all of the stuff that is in the news on tap will draw a few rounds from that. [SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, we got to talk about your new piece about the the cure because you are happy. [SPEAKER_09]: Even though you don't think you should. [SPEAKER_09]: I look, if the cure makes you happy, I got no issues with that. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk with you about that obviously. [SPEAKER_09]: So look, it's Thursday night.

[SPEAKER_09]: We got to pay the bills, freshing your drink, come right back. [SPEAKER_12]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Thursday night at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: You guys know what that means. [SPEAKER_09]: The one the only. [SPEAKER_09]: John Fugelsang is here. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, yes, we know. [SPEAKER_09]: You know him. [SPEAKER_09]: You love him. [SPEAKER_09]: You have bought his book. [SPEAKER_09]: Separation of church and hate.

[SPEAKER_09]: And if you haven't, what the hell's wrong with you? [SPEAKER_09]: Seriously. [SPEAKER_09]: Go by the book. [SPEAKER_09]: Come on. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: Listen, that lifts me up, Sean. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_09]: Because you do a lot of good stuff, John, honestly, it is, it's fun that we're going to hang out with you that you're our friend, but it's also kind of fun to occasionally tell people that you're one of our friends. [SPEAKER_09]: That's was, oh, guys, this was, I don't know, January, early January, and I was at the little low bodega in my neighborhood, and somebody had that in her bag.

[SPEAKER_09]: I was like, oh, hey, you bought that book from John Fugel, saying, oh, yeah, listen to [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I know him. [SPEAKER_09]: She's really nice. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so no, it's great. [SPEAKER_09]: So you got it. [SPEAKER_09]: You got us another subscriber here at the marge. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that brightens my day. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for saying because it's been a hard week emotionally, you know, for me Sean.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we we found out this week that in 2012 RFK Jr went fossil hunting.

[SPEAKER_06]: with Jeffrey Epstein in the Dakotas years after the conviction that RFK Junior and Jeffrey Epstein went fossil hunting together and I got to tell you it's been a rough week because this is really damaged my whole opinion of Jeffrey Epstein the fact that the fact that that guy would spend time with RFK Junior it just chatters everything I believed about Epstein and now he's now he's really bad I mean before I was on the fence but whoa this is just oh

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, and then of course, I mean, you'll hard to believe that Howard, not like I mean, luck next. [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, Jody. [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, but, but I, you had the best take of the week on the Joe joke. [SPEAKER_09]: I still say you had the best take of the week on Howard, luck next. [SPEAKER_09]: testimony, the Congress. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if John if you heard this yet. [SPEAKER_09]: Did you hear Jenny tell you about this?

[SPEAKER_11]: I found out about it. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm like, if I were to question him, I'm like, you brought your children and their nanny and your wife to a pedophiles, you brought your children to his own pedophiles children to the island.

[SPEAKER_06]: seven years after he was a convicted child sex offenders seven years after he solicited children for prosecution for prostitution he did this yes yeah and it's happened happens all the time by the way yeah no no no not that I know uh oh come on how many times have you packed up the family and gotten on a boat and said kids put your dead phones away we're going to pedophile Nirvana for sandwiches come on now we've all been there

[SPEAKER_09]: So easy to judge huh, I just I'm sitting there going are you kidding me just just blows me away That and he didn't even seem to realize that he was saying it you're like dude any lie that he cut ties in 2005 He's again, it's so easy for all we've only this mistake of lying [SPEAKER_06]: about convicted child rapists we've spent time with we've all we've all made this mistake before but letting it with a straight face is like I barely had anything to do with that person you know

[SPEAKER_09]: We beat you know arrangement that I did and the launch I had where about my kids to pedophile And I live next door or live next door in the thousands of emails. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean I guess you don't Accidentally vacation with a convicted sex trafficker. [SPEAKER_06]: You know like whole calendar error, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Like and then and the best part was Senator Van Hollen asked him whether the nanny on the trip

[SPEAKER_06]: was the same that he abstained in that email expressed an interest in meeting and how it looked like this oligarch billionaire scumbag just says no idea never crossed by mind and that was wild to me because i don't know about you guys but i think from most parents when i'm thinking my top three concerns uh is this convicted sex offender interested in my kids or their caregiver like right after does he have sunscreen on the island and where's the bathroom

[SPEAKER_06]: By third question is usually is the convicted child sex offender into my kids or the baby Why does Howard London still have a job guys? [SPEAKER_06]: I know exactly that's that's that should be the next question that somebody well Nobody will ever ask Trump that because we all know the answer it's a couple of culture Pamboni exactly cover up culture that perfect that that protects crime and even proximity Um, and it's going to be harder and harder for them to get away.

[SPEAKER_06]: This is the hill. [SPEAKER_06]: These guys are going to die [SPEAKER_09]: Well, and here's the thing, it's all part of the Trump Epstein class. [SPEAKER_09]: You and I were just talking about that, Charlie. [SPEAKER_09]: We're talking about Bob yesterday too. [SPEAKER_06]: John Ossoff had the line of the week, the Epstein class. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, yes, our conservative brothers and sisters about their heads filled for years that there was these people out there.

[SPEAKER_06]: And they're not like you and me. [SPEAKER_06]: And they want to destroy your way of life, and we have to stop them.

[SPEAKER_06]: and the billionaires have had their media tell the people it's poor brown people when in reality it's the billionaires who are the other people not like you and me who are coming here to destroy your way of life and when we can get these hard working conservative white people to realize that they have more in common with immigrants than they do with billionaires.

[SPEAKER_06]: You might start to see some economic justice in this country but it's going to take a long time to get there. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And Pam body sped it up though man. [SPEAKER_06]: Highlight of the week for me. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean whoa.

[SPEAKER_09]: which one there were bad bonding bad bonding with the but the half time show the week well yeah i'm just saying there were so many highlights from her being such a look when we talk about half-ashism everything from the you know flying f up in alpazzo to pan bonding is a perfect example if they had their poop in a group they would be really dangerous

[SPEAKER_09]: clearly, they just half-ass everything, they're like, oh, I'm not here to kink-shame bro, but poop in a group is something I don't need to learn more about. [SPEAKER_06]: I gotta say, I'm not here to judge anybody's way of getting through this life. [SPEAKER_09]: It's an FCC compliant phrase. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I, I like that, you know, we need to start viewing Pam Bondi not as the Attorney General, but as a future law school case study.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And, and, I mean, this was a public nervous breakdown of a person with extremely poor professional judgments. [SPEAKER_06]: She walked into there. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you saw it like a person who has no idea that history will exist in the future. [SPEAKER_06]: No, no awareness that someday they'll be books or documentaries or little children saying, hey, grandma, why were you ignoring the rape victims while screaming about the Dow?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, holy crap. [SPEAKER_06]: She talked about the Dow so much. [SPEAKER_06]: I thought she was Buddhist. [SPEAKER_06]: The Dow is like, oh, that's so comforting to the rate victims sitting behind you that you refuse to acknowledge and look at. [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing says justice. [SPEAKER_06]: But the Nasdaq was good. [SPEAKER_06]: The Nasdaq's good. [SPEAKER_06]: The rate victims, they can wait. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, and that was the tell guys.

[SPEAKER_06]: Don't you think that like, that's the moment to told us everything, [SPEAKER_06]: Who did the stock market doing well help? [SPEAKER_06]: Not the victim. [SPEAKER_07]: The oligarchs, right? [SPEAKER_06]: The oligarchs and child rape us. [SPEAKER_06]: She's covering for the men. [SPEAKER_06]: She's covering for our thrill about the stock market. [SPEAKER_06]: The victims weren't. [SPEAKER_06]: And panty just comes in there. [SPEAKER_06]: This is what made me nervous about it.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like I laughed about it. [SPEAKER_06]: We played a lot of clips on Syria sex and but she acts like there is Absolutely no consequences legally or politically or historically. [SPEAKER_06]: She acts like she knows that power will never change hands again [SPEAKER_06]: And it was that authoritarian certainty, that was the creepiest thing about all of it.

[SPEAKER_09]: The thing that made me look and say that she's not being certain, though, there were a couple instances where a couple of the Democratic and even when Massey, Tom Massey.

[SPEAKER_09]: uh... hitter you and i were talking about this earlier jodie uh... about how uh... mass he hits on the fact and she's like well garland garland garland he's like uh... this time all those all we're back to bush he's like i'm talking about your role and what we talked about the biggest thing that people are forgetting is pambani was the attorney general of florida

[SPEAKER_09]: When all of this stuff when Jeffrey Epstein first got exposed and all of this type of stuff, Pam Bondi was the first major law enforcement authority who should have nailed Epstein to the wall. [SPEAKER_09]: And conveniently, she just let him go. [SPEAKER_06]: not until she left. [SPEAKER_06]: They went after her success or went after him.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: We also need to remember that she has this job because she was investigating Trump University, which Trump paid 26 million in fines for because he committed education fraud ripped off Americans. [SPEAKER_06]: And Trump gave him 25 grand. [SPEAKER_06]: I believe as a campaign donation and she dropped the investigation, that's why she got hired after the other child rapist wasn't free to take America's top-cop job.

[SPEAKER_06]: Bride Meepondi, because the whole world knows that she is per sale. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, yes she is. [SPEAKER_09]: Although I will not, I will not call her a whore because I have more respect for sex workers. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we can't do that. [SPEAKER_06]: Can't do that.

[SPEAKER_06]: But like when Ted's work hard and they're honest on when Ted Loo and when Ted Loo's like I believe you just lie down to wrote and she don't you ever accuse me of a crime Jodie that's exactly what it said people react right always right very just scream very calm very normal. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah [SPEAKER_09]: That's just what you were talking about, Jody Ted Lou. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he was great. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: They were all great.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I was even, I was even kind of cheering on Massey, too. [SPEAKER_06]: Because she, she, Massey's the only Republican you can trust on this issue. [SPEAKER_06]: The only Republican we can trust on this issue. [SPEAKER_06]: I agree. [SPEAKER_09]: Thomas Massey is, I think. [SPEAKER_09]: I've said this a bit, and I'm feeling more confident about her. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to say it more often.

[SPEAKER_09]: Thomas Massey is the only Republican I think, [SPEAKER_09]: is somewhat safe in the 26 election. [SPEAKER_09]: And the reason that he's somewhat safe is that even though I don't agree with his policies, I don't agree with a lot of his beliefs. [SPEAKER_09]: He is coming out and saying, these are the things I do not believe in child rape. [SPEAKER_06]: I do not believe in. [SPEAKER_09]: But he's going to be standing straight forward about it like that.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but the state Republican party is cutting him loose for this. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's going to be really interesting to see if the will of the people is more child rape adjacent or more just, I mean, I look either way. [SPEAKER_06]: He gets a one way ticket to lose Janey Island, which is also known as being on the right side of history, high Jeff Lake. [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: But it's going to be fascinating to see if he's rewarded for honesty because traditionally Americans haven't done that. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, he's in an area. [SPEAKER_09]: He's in a very, very red district. [SPEAKER_09]: And last time I looked at anything like that that still said that he's probably favored to win his primary. [SPEAKER_09]: I would agree. [SPEAKER_09]: He's going to win.

[SPEAKER_06]: I would agree with you on that but I think it'll become more so as we get closer to the midterms because that's less than nine months and it ain't gonna look good for the Trumpies by the time because they're they're you're gonna see more and more of these guys putting space between them and that's why they're backing down they're backing down from Greenland they're backing down from

[SPEAKER_09]: some of them last night of a tear of thing with cancer of their kind of a show and they're back and down on on Minnesota. [SPEAKER_06]: They're pulling the troops out. [SPEAKER_06]: It's like you punch a bully in the face and sometimes the bully will back down. [SPEAKER_06]: But we've have bonded yesterday. [SPEAKER_06]: Did you notice this the creepiest part of it all? [SPEAKER_06]: We learned and CNN had good reporting on this. [SPEAKER_06]: The DOJ is tracking.

[SPEAKER_06]: which apps and files, members of Congress or research, the executive branch is spying on con legislatures. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep, we have not bodies. [SPEAKER_06]: No, they zoomed in and it showed pictures of the committee members, there's search histories, what they've been reading, and it's all intimidation. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, after years of saying we were spied on Trump is spying on Congress.

[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_06]: And I thought, Pam Bondi, [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they're going to be studying this in law school for decades or her client is not the constitution of the American people.

[SPEAKER_06]: Her client is Trump and she lied for him on the road, she screamed from, she humiliated herself in history books for him, and it's like these people, they're so in the right-wing media bubble, they don't understand it like some day when the cameras are off and Trump is dead, they're going to learn temporary power. [SPEAKER_06]: is really not worth permanent disgrace and she just signed up for yesterday.

[SPEAKER_09]: I am hoping that the Democrats are starting to learn because we've got polling in multiple places in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_09]: And the polling is all saying the same thing, which is Democrats have zero reason to be afraid about

[SPEAKER_09]: being assertive going strong going for example what they've been doing on the DHS funding they had a a a a vote today a test vote in the Senate that absolutely fails because the Democrats are saying look at a minimum and they figured this out from the the shutdown last fall they're acting like Republicans finally they're slowing it down they can't stop it so they will come up the works they're doing the exact kind of obnoxious things that the Republicans have always done.

[SPEAKER_09]: And they're also using the communication strategies. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, they have a list of 10, but they've, they're at three. [SPEAKER_09]: They said, look, we want body cams and name tags. [SPEAKER_09]: No masks. [SPEAKER_09]: And we want a judicial warrants. [SPEAKER_09]: Really simple. [SPEAKER_06]: And really simple.

[SPEAKER_06]: even the maga folks on order yeah maga folks are like dude I can get behind that yeah watch them yet concessions and I hope they break it out for months because again Epstein it's it's it's not going away I mean and there's Republicans like they have a three step plan step one hide the names of the powerful men who rape children step two publish the names of the victims yeah who are promises wouldn't happen and step three screen clinton's and then run off stage and like the message that Democrats need to keep putting out is that Trump is mentioned in the Bible

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files one million times more than abortion is mentioned in the Bible You know and that they broke in the law Trump and Bondi to protect child rapists every single day Consequently since December 19th of 2025 and they got you wife folks mad about some manys and gardeners

[SPEAKER_09]: right now look that's that there is there is it is interesting watching some of the Magifokes start to I don't know if it's if it's too woke of me to say for them to wake up. [SPEAKER_09]: They are, they are starting some of them and they're like, um, maybe I was on a wrong side of this. [SPEAKER_06]: Some of them, I mean, like my new favorite genre of video, I think, or people calling it to see Span on the weekends to look at the bad choices they've made. [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[SPEAKER_06]: Wow. [SPEAKER_06]: Like last year, my favorite video was Israeli families screening it as really politicians and as really hospitals.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you know, I mean, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, [SPEAKER_06]: It's not going to happen fast enough, but they're cooked because they know what happened in 2018, what happened in 2022. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not that Democrats are going to get more popular, although they will.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's that conservatives just don't show up. [SPEAKER_06]: And when Mr. Trump from the TV isn't on the ballot, they really don't show up. [SPEAKER_06]: And these Republicans are going to have to start deciding what they want more Donald Trump tolerating them or keeping their jobs. [SPEAKER_06]: after this year. [SPEAKER_06]: And I've said it on your show before, but the Democrats who promise investigations, hands-on, bibles, independent prosecutors.

[SPEAKER_06]: I want a Democrat saying that we're going to scour that island to find Bonnie's buried. [SPEAKER_06]: Those guys are going to keep the story alive. [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to remind us of what we agree on in terms of basic decency. [SPEAKER_06]: And that's going to drive the election more than common ground than reaching across the island this time. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, look, I I'm 100% with you on all of that John.

[SPEAKER_09]: We know you've got to go over here for Series X M pretty soon. [SPEAKER_09]: Do you have a little more time hang out with us? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I'd love to come back and talk about the Tindrocco White Trash Fantasable. [SPEAKER_09]: We will definitely do that. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, we're going to go take up some glasses here and do a few things that way.

[SPEAKER_09]: We'll come back with more with John Feeble saying is a Thursday night here at the politics bar fresh in your drink and come right back hang on. [SPEAKER_12]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Let's go on a Thursday night here at politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So we were talking here in the break about the Super Bowl, which we haven't seen you since it happened. [SPEAKER_09]: And we know you're not necessarily fan of the football, but the halftime show was great. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm more of the guy who hits on the wives in the kitchen during the Super Bowl. [SPEAKER_06]: That's sort of what I get out of the day every year. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, this was just amazing. [SPEAKER_06]: It's such a good thing.

[SPEAKER_06]: it's very rare that a bunch of racists trying to make a moment of cultural progress all about themselves once being the feel good story of the month but like you know what happens when another culture getting a little bit of representation really feels like something's been taken away from you you you invent this alternative half time show with Kid Rock at which point Satan is like whoa guys told it down this was so evil what I mean

[SPEAKER_06]: This is for people who think that Puerto Rico isn't really American, but the Confederate flag is. [SPEAKER_06]: And Chitrock is beloved among Christians. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you know this because he's the only all American half-time show performer who's also in a sex tape with that singer from the band, Creed. [SPEAKER_06]: So it really means a lot.

[SPEAKER_09]: Also, by the way, he sings about pedophilia, so he actually does make perfect sense to be slaughtered in under Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_06]: So on the amazing thing is when he sings about pedophilia, he could hold the mic to entire feet away from his mouth and he's still here and perfectly. [SPEAKER_06]: That's how powerful this man's vocal cords are. [SPEAKER_06]: And I do love my coworker Megan Kelly fired from fired from NBC for being racist.

[SPEAKER_06]: You love that Megan Kelly felt very threatened that 40 plus million people are getting representation. [SPEAKER_06]: First off, the thing is they hate capitalism, okay? [SPEAKER_06]: It's capitalism that they don't like because Roger Goodell is not a good man. [SPEAKER_06]: He is not a woke trailblazer. [SPEAKER_06]: Roger Goodell looks at the numbers and realizes we want to expand the NFL's appeal. [SPEAKER_06]: beyond the United States.

[SPEAKER_06]: We want to get international people, and would you look at the biggest artists in the world, Bad Bunny? [SPEAKER_06]: You guys got to see the footage of Roger Gdell hugging. [SPEAKER_06]: I saw that, and it's incredible, because for Roger Gdell, again, not a good guy morally, but he knows that this is the way forward, and that we are a pluralistic society, and pretending we're not is really bad for business. [SPEAKER_06]: So they actually hate capitalism.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_06]: Same with war on Christmas, right? [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: You say happy holidays to sell more products that appealed to war people and not be mean to non-Christians. [SPEAKER_06]: But they hate capitalism. [SPEAKER_06]: It's maybe me, me, me. [SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be all about my group. [SPEAKER_06]: Again, the opposite of everything Jesus ever said. [SPEAKER_06]: He's about humility.

[SPEAKER_06]: So what you saw was these white dress xenophobes talking about the gospel. [SPEAKER_06]: And then you saw a bad bunny. [SPEAKER_06]: Modeling the gospel.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, you don't need to speak a word of Espanol to understand every beat of that performance The race is said there's no white people where there's Lady Gaga singing an English damn you all So they're like oh that don't want to see this gay gay Prevert there's a literally I had a sexual couple getting married on the field during half time It was the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life and so Catholic and bringing you there because he cut it off I mean just beautiful ending

[SPEAKER_06]: And that love is stronger than hate and then meanwhile you flip over and you got kidrock lip syncing and grabbing his crotch in front of a Confederate flag and the Christians are like Oh finally the gospel. [SPEAKER_06]: Megan Kelly Megan Kelly is a person who goes to see Westside story and then leaves the theater in protest every time the port of recon characters get a song like I'm going to the restroom if I need a singing again.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's got to be hard and what happened as a result of it? [SPEAKER_06]: They marginalized themselves. [SPEAKER_06]: Nobody watched. [SPEAKER_06]: They look old, out-of-touch, racist, stupid grifters, and just like Westboro Baptist Church freaked out the homophobes after, well, I might not be ready for game marriage, but I don't want to be with these douche bags. [SPEAKER_06]: This is exactly what this white supremacy halftime show did.

[SPEAKER_06]: It showed how pathetic and weak they all are, how false their gospel is, and how their movement is shrinking. [SPEAKER_06]: And the future is full of love and people who don't look and talk the same get along just fine Yeah, that's the future there. [SPEAKER_09]: There were America's going to choose there were more people watching the puppy Bull right watched that idiot lip sync in jords. [SPEAKER_06]: It was just yeah It's all a grift.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's all a grift and again [SPEAKER_06]: You know, they're they're they're just trying and and this is white supremacy and it's getting smaller and smaller. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: And these people believe they own football like Megan Kelly said football is ours because that's how they feel about America. [SPEAKER_06]: That's how they feel about Christianity. [SPEAKER_06]: It's ours not yours.

[SPEAKER_06]: And that is the toxic white supremacy that has always been the curse on this nation from the beginning of its founding. [SPEAKER_09]: It's ours in rid ourselves of [SPEAKER_09]: It's in the most part, I mean, obviously, I think there's always going to be some nastiness hiding under the refrigerator as the phrase goes, but you know, always, but it's not like to say, you know, America's an old couch and Donald Trump's a black light.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And nastiness was there a long time. [SPEAKER_06]: He's just making it shine. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, well, look, we know, John, you've got to go do a couple of got to run for Lisa's exam because you've got to stuff for president today. [SPEAKER_09]: Come on up, I believe you guys are doing some stuff on that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, president, stay my favorite drinking holiday of the calendar. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, have a good drink of the day for that, Joe. [SPEAKER_09]: Are you all right? [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: See you guys are the best. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for having me, sorry. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you so much. [SPEAKER_09]: No worries. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll see you next week, brother. [SPEAKER_06]: Take care, friends. [SPEAKER_06]: Peace, bye, bye. [SPEAKER_09]: John is absolutely fantastic. [SPEAKER_09]: We always love having him here in the bar.

[SPEAKER_09]: Everybody give him a round of applause. [SPEAKER_09]: As he heads for the door. [SPEAKER_09]: I love it. [SPEAKER_09]: He is so sharp on his social commentary. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, he is. [SPEAKER_09]: It's very good. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, John's right about the oligarchy, though, and in fact, the bridge issue, we have yet to talk about that. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I forgot that.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Even more, there's some great pieces that we've got today in our news on tap that literally point out how much of a... [SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to overuse the pun, but bridged to know where maybe that is, I mean, it's just it is absolutely stupid. [SPEAKER_09]: There's a piece there for Jonathan Chates, not bad from the Atlantic. [SPEAKER_09]: Talking about the bridge closure and how it's actually going to help a billionaire and hurt regular people.

[SPEAKER_09]: And Greg Sargent is noting that because of the way that they did this, the Donald Trump is basically leaning over to help a billionaire who called Howard Lutnic, [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, that's uh, it's going to give it is already given Democrats in swing state Michigan some serious ammunition. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh God. [SPEAKER_11]: During an election year. [SPEAKER_11]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_11]: It's the dumbest thing you could do is screw that up because it's helps everybody. [SPEAKER_11]: It helps the Canadians and it helps the U.S. get over it. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And it's as you noted. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not like there's not going to be two bridges. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Like you're not going to get something. [SPEAKER_08]: But it's just the guy who has the crew. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I'm not going to get everything I want.

[SPEAKER_11]: It's like that's like the GW bridge and the Brooklyn Bridge, I'll be mad at each other. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: It's just stupid. [SPEAKER_09]: It's, you know, I wanted 99% of the pie. [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, there's more pie. [SPEAKER_09]: And be, share, you infantile to it you. [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_11]: It's ridiculous. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's the biggest problem with the oligarchy, that they can't share.

[SPEAKER_09]: They, something inside them is so broken that they can't share. [SPEAKER_09]: They refuse to share, which, you know, a lot to talk with John next week when he comes back in about this, because I'm sure the topic will still be floating there. [SPEAKER_09]: But it might kind of one of the whole Jesusy things, you know, you share the whole fishes and loaves, you always kind of, you know, yeah, you're welcome to strange things like that part of the Bible.

[SPEAKER_09]: They're not exactly the best about, actually modeling the things that they claim. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, they like certain parts, they like the old testament a lot. [SPEAKER_09]: And especially smiting people, they'll big on that. [SPEAKER_11]: But they don't like the parts of the new testament that represent geniuses. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the loving, yeah, not big on that. [SPEAKER_11]: So they need to decide, are you Jewish or are you Christian?

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, because all testimonies decide if they're actually Christian, then maybe they should act like it. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, and I know there's other parts of the Jewish religion besides the Old Testament. [SPEAKER_11]: I understand that. [SPEAKER_11]: But I mean, the Christian part is the New Testament kids. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: Jody's right. [SPEAKER_09]: And it is.

[SPEAKER_09]: The thing that the through line that runs through all of this, whether it is the half-ashes of the immigration wars, [SPEAKER_09]: whether it's the half-ass way they're trying to attack democracy, the half-ass way that they do the flying f-up in El Paso or the bridge they want to sell you up in Michigan or the affordability issues that they're ignoring like we talked about today with the let's let's change the prices on you when you go to the store.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's all just to get a tiny little bit more for people who already have [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, if they were hoarding cats. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: Newspapers or cardboard boxes or whatever it is, we'd be like, you need to go to an institution and there's something wrong with you, you need medication. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: You look at Jeff Bezos' ex-wife. [SPEAKER_11]: A lot of ex-wives of very wealthy people are not doing the same things.

[SPEAKER_09]: You have noticed that by the way, the he did great with the Washington Post as long as he was involved with McKenzie, but when he got divorced and then, and there's somebody else I noticed who was writing about it, and they said, you know what, when he got divorced, he started hanging out with these basically loser Trumpers. [SPEAKER_09]: who also have been oftentimes, I mean, you know, that that goes along with the, the inself thing. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I can't get a date.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, nobody would date you anyway. [SPEAKER_09]: You're not, you're, you're being such a selfish pig. [SPEAKER_09]: Who would want to date you? [SPEAKER_11]: I just, it's, it's, it's, there are some women that are very wealthy that are like these guys, but in general, it's men. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, but it's, it's a certain level of wealth. [SPEAKER_11]: I want to be overtaxed. [SPEAKER_11]: I want to be at that level where I'm getting taxed at 90%.

[SPEAKER_11]: I would love to live at that level.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'd love to be able to be that rich and be taxed like I'd be fine with same I mean he won't must post something the other day about how many how many dollars he pays in taxes oh I saw uh who was the girl who she she like nailed it down firm and said basically percentage wise you ain't paying squad you're not paying anything compared to the person down the street or the person who works for you right I mean you know sales taxes are regressive [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_11]: In general, because I need to go buy food. [SPEAKER_11]: I need to go, you know, I need to do this. [SPEAKER_09]: Taxes are not as progressive as they should be. [SPEAKER_09]: And we can do better with that. [SPEAKER_11]: No, it's, it's, it used to be better. [SPEAKER_11]: And Reagan was the start of that. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: But the fact is, is that Democrats can do better and they should. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not about more regulation.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's about better. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's not about half measures. [SPEAKER_09]: I, you know, when I say to people, I say, I want you to sell the idea. [SPEAKER_09]: For example, replace ice instead of a bullish ice. [SPEAKER_09]: A bullish ice is aggressive. [SPEAKER_09]: A bullish ice is I'm going to take this idea and punch you in the face with it. [SPEAKER_09]: Replace ice is the same idea only I just come right up to your nose and stare at you.

[SPEAKER_09]: It is just as much in your face the difference is I'm not punching you in the face and the person who you go up to when you say this is how it's gonna be get it that's assertive if you punch him in the face it's aggressive if you're assertive they might listen to you so if you're aggressive you've turned them into an enemy

[SPEAKER_09]: but do I believe you should go absolutely as far as you can absolutely and if you go and you get some of the things we want what's Elizabeth Warren always say go get what you can come back for the rest exactly and that is what democrats that's the attitude democrats need to have right now

[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm I'm glad that Senator Sanders is coming out there and helping you guys with the the push on them to billionaire tax Absolutely governor newsom is against it because he's worried that people are going to leave and companies are going to leave and it's like you know what we're fine

[SPEAKER_09]: right and they're not going to any if they do you know what congratulations they're still going to have business in California because of the size of California's economy so stop being afraid y'all push hard do the right thing yeah no all right it is the end of the night jote uh tomorrow by the way uh it's Friday which is hard for me to believe the week is flown by like that course Karen and Anita from True Blue politics will be in next week Brooklyn dad to find a Monday and then joker do you see jote from chair is going to be here on

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