American Burdens, December 8, 2025

[SPEAKER_00]: But let it go, thank you, let it go. [SPEAKER_00]: You think it's the far, wherever you are, the politics march. [SPEAKER_02]: Shotsmith, Harrison, Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Jody, hey, Sean. [SPEAKER_05]: Man, some days are harder than the others, guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: For us and for you. [SPEAKER_05]: We got to talk about all of that today, folks.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're definitely going to talk about that, because I know it is a tough time of here, [SPEAKER_05]: It's stuff we don't talk about, but we need to, so we're going to talk about some of that stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: We do of course have the news on tap. [SPEAKER_05]: We have a couple of great guests as well.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Utah State Senator, Nate Blue and he's going to be here, and of course are for him Brooklyn, Dad, Define's going to be in, and we're going to talk about all that stuff by the way, Charlie Pierce going by tomorrow is Malcolm coming in as well. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm still waiting confirmation from both of them. [SPEAKER_05]: Alrighty, we will hopefully Charlie and Malcolm be joining us tomorrow here in the bar.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, uh, if you've seen the post on social media or uh, in our news on tap today, um, got to start with some little tough. [SPEAKER_05]: And I understand that's, you know, a lot of you folks out there in all of our great radio affiliates. [SPEAKER_05]: By the way, thank you to all of our great radio affiliates.

[SPEAKER_05]: Whether you were listening on WCPT, AMA 20 Chicago, or AM950, manyapolis, Saint Paul, the great Georgia now and Atlanta or D2 or talk in Tennessee, or progressive voices radio worldwide, wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you if you're one of our future people as well. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_05]: you guys reach out to us on all of our socials and we are so fantastically thankful for that.

[SPEAKER_05]: We'll talk about what you had to say a little bit later, Liz, so thank you. [SPEAKER_05]: She's the blue sky corner of the body. [SPEAKER_05]: So, one of the things about the affordability crisis, any accountability crisis that we have, [SPEAKER_05]: The folks who are listening right now, you might be one of those people who you're looking at the holidays and it's going to be hard.

[SPEAKER_05]: Somebody in your family died, some of your family sick, maybe you're looking at your bank account and you're going, you know, I know it's bad, but anybody know how bad it is right now. [SPEAKER_05]: Ain't nobody know how bad it is for me. [SPEAKER_05]: You are skipping meals, maybe? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And like I said, some of the most basic stuff, people that you love in your life, that you ain't going to get to see this year for the holidays or the two haven't seen.

[SPEAKER_05]: I went 10 years, did you know this journey? [SPEAKER_05]: I went 10 years between times I had the money and had the time to be able to get back to Nebraska to see my family. [SPEAKER_05]: When I had the money, I didn't have the time. [SPEAKER_05]: When I had the time, I didn't have the money. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, for everybody here, this is not [SPEAKER_05]: Y'all look at us and you're like, hey, we love coming to an hanging out your barn.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're very glad that you guys do. [SPEAKER_05]: Man, we are super thankful. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: But do you get freaked out when people think that your fame is joody? [SPEAKER_05]: When people were like, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: It's weird. [SPEAKER_05]: And yet, you've been famous for my fame is your whole life because you're folks.

[SPEAKER_05]: When you're dad died, do you have that weird feeling where somebody's like, oh, you're Jody Hamilton and you're like, yeah, but my dad died, man. [SPEAKER_05]: Famous people are just people that everybody knows. [SPEAKER_05]: Some of them are rich, some of them were not, we are not. [SPEAKER_05]: I think definitely not. [SPEAKER_07]: We are rich. [SPEAKER_05]: Y'all know us, but we ain't got a ton of money. [SPEAKER_05]: And things happened to us, too, of the weekend.

[SPEAKER_05]: My pup, he died. [SPEAKER_05]: That sucks. [SPEAKER_05]: That's medical thing. [SPEAKER_05]: Nothing could be done. [SPEAKER_05]: We did everything we could. [SPEAKER_05]: 24 hour vets, the other vets, the other vets, race and around. [SPEAKER_05]: We're lucky enough to have insurance for them. [SPEAKER_05]: And I do recommend you get pet insurance if you have a pet. [SPEAKER_05]: I recommend you have health insurance.

[SPEAKER_05]: But some of you out there are staring down the barrel not being able to have health insurance thanks to art. [SPEAKER_05]: Wonderful Republicans in Congress in the idiot Donald Trump and the White House. [SPEAKER_05]: But famous people just like you. [SPEAKER_05]: die for medical conditions, they're in a damn thing you can do about.

[SPEAKER_05]: Doesn't matter how experience doctors are, doesn't matter what you have insurance, there's just stuff that they can't do what they have about. [SPEAKER_05]: Now's me this weekend, me my wife, having her boy, passed away. [SPEAKER_05]: And it sucks. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It sucks. [SPEAKER_05]: You had to happen, um, a couple of years ago. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, with your cap, when you're working for staff, thankfully having a weekend, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: So you got one day, one day, yeah, got to go to work. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: When I was working for Randy, my dad died back in in early 2021. [SPEAKER_05]: Pandemics still going on couldn't afford to go to Lincoln where he was. [SPEAKER_05]: So, day after he died, I'm back. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm doing the show. [SPEAKER_05]: In fact, that very night. [SPEAKER_05]: Prep him for the next day. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And this is something that happens.

[SPEAKER_05]: millions of Americans millions of folks out there listen wherever you listen whether you listen like Paul Paul and Seattle or whether you listen up in Alaska like Shannon or whether you're down in Florida or up in Maine or out in California or in Hawaii. [SPEAKER_05]: There are somewhere else around the world. [SPEAKER_05]: Are you folks who are elsewhere around the world? [SPEAKER_05]: Please put out the word that America now is not what it used to be. [SPEAKER_05]: It's just not.

[SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: We got a ton of problems here. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And the people, there are a whole lot of people out there who, you know, I heard somebody today, um, things came to her. [SPEAKER_05]: She was, she was interviewing a farmer. [SPEAKER_05]: Trump supposedly rolling out a farm plan. [SPEAKER_05]: Only there's no details and no actual plan. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, the, the soybeans that they were supposed to be buying back from China, uh, there's no actual deal yet. [SPEAKER_09]: Nobody. [SPEAKER_05]: No, nothing on paper. [SPEAKER_09]: Of course not. [SPEAKER_05]: And as Farmer, she asked him, she says, why do some of these farmers keep voting for Donald Trump and Republicans? [SPEAKER_05]: Right, yeah, Joey surprised at it, too.

[SPEAKER_05]: And he says, these people are putting their personal morals and beliefs where their business ends should be. [SPEAKER_05]: And I had to flash back to Air America that left leaning liberal radio network to popped up back in the early 2000s. [SPEAKER_05]: That's where Randy came from, Randy Rhodes. [SPEAKER_05]: That's where Stephanie and Tom got a lot more of their fame through that as well. [SPEAKER_05]: Rachel Maddo came up because of that. [SPEAKER_05]: Al Franken too.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And their problem with their America was that they put their business sense where their personal moral should have been in vice versa. [SPEAKER_05]: So the decisions that they made in trying to run a business [SPEAKER_05]: It made very poorly, and their decisions in how they dealt with personnel issues and personal issues as well were completely criss-crossed. [SPEAKER_05]: It was awful.

[SPEAKER_05]: And this farm was saying that there are millions of people in America who were doing the same thing when it comes to voting for Maga and voting for Republicans, Maga Republicans and voting for Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_05]: And now everybody's having to pay the price. [SPEAKER_05]: And I just wanted everybody to understand that the prices that we pay are not just those of the gas pump or the grocery store.

[SPEAKER_05]: The prices that we pay are the fact that when somebody you love dies, you don't get a single goddamn day off. [SPEAKER_09]: Most people don't mean if you're at an upper echelon, of course you do, but if you're just a regular worker, no, of course not. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's most of us. [SPEAKER_05]: It's most of us here in the bar that's most people across the country.

[SPEAKER_05]: So when you go to elect somebody or when you are talking with your neighbors about who you elect, you need to remind them of the stakes involved. [SPEAKER_05]: These are the stakes. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not just the fact that you can't get stake. [SPEAKER_05]: It's the fact that you can't get a day off. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, a new thing with with with companies is you get paid time off, but that includes sick days. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: That includes days where you're not having a vacation, you're just sick. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's ridiculous. [SPEAKER_05]: They do it all as one big lump group. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you can say me three weeks in a year off. [SPEAKER_09]: And you don't get to accumulate them and hold them over in a lot of situations. [SPEAKER_09]: Some companies will let you hold them over. [SPEAKER_09]: My cousin works for a company that does a lot of them.

[SPEAKER_05]: But most don't, you're right. [SPEAKER_09]: Most don't. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's wrong. [SPEAKER_09]: If I don't take my weeks off, I should be able to get next year, six weeks off. [SPEAKER_09]: Should I desire? [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's.

[SPEAKER_05]: We get a lot of things screwed up and that is part of the affordability crisis and that is part of the accountability crisis as well because for those folks who are at the upper echelons including virtually every damn member of Congress on all sides of the aisle.

[SPEAKER_05]: Republicans, independents, and Democrats, they get time off, and they can afford to eat whatever they want, they can afford to go back and forth to whatever they need, and a lot of, a lot of state legislators don't necessarily have this, because the state legislators are not paid nearly as well. [SPEAKER_05]: There are some states that pay, but... [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, the average state legislature legislator or doesn't get almost $200,000 a year.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, they get some of them are lucky if they get $2,000. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I know that like city councils, it's half of it is volunteer. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I mean, there's a lot of places where, I mean, Los Angeles pays, but I don't think it pays that well for city council, but it pays probably better than other towns. [SPEAKER_05]: The city of Los Angeles. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you know, it's one of the biggest cities in the country.

[SPEAKER_09]: But I know that our city council people don't make as much money as they probably should. [SPEAKER_05]: And in part because of that, you don't get the kind of people on the city council who would be great at being on the city council. [SPEAKER_05]: Because they can't afford to, right? [SPEAKER_05]: Because they got to rush their ass out, they got to have a this job and that job and the third job and maybe they're volunteering on their local city council order, whatever they have.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, a lot of people do that. [SPEAKER_09]: They're the city council people and then they have day jobs. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: So we know there's a lot of news on tap today. [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of subjects in there. [SPEAKER_05]: And you guys definitely should get that. [SPEAKER_05]: And for those of you who are subscribed, we appreciate greatly. [SPEAKER_05]: They use subscribe to that.

[SPEAKER_05]: Of course, we appreciate even more greatly those people who pay that $6 a month and subscribe to the politicsbar.com because that helps out too. [SPEAKER_05]: But something so simple as having a member of your family pass. [SPEAKER_05]: In a method where I went a damn thing they could do, Jody, they he had a couple of seizures and then they were and he was just screaming and pain and they couldn't figure it out and just that was. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I'm so sorry.

[SPEAKER_08]: That's just yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry, man. [SPEAKER_05]: Me too. [SPEAKER_05]: Me too. [SPEAKER_05]: But that's so I hope folks understand that we do understand what you guys go through on a lot of this stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: We [SPEAKER_05]: So you may think of us as your favorite bar owners and God bless, if you do, we really appreciate that. [SPEAKER_05]: But we are human, just like you are.

[SPEAKER_05]: And right now, for all us humans and everybody not human, you're your pups and your kiddies and your birds and everybody else, it's tough road home because some folks put their priorities in the wrong place.

[SPEAKER_05]: They did City Council, the act of like a high school, high school, [SPEAKER_05]: counsel and I like the popular kid he's made an abusive but I like him because of it yeah and in the meantime when somebody in your family gets sick or somebody in your family dies you got to pick yourself up and work the next day yeah we know who that goes just [SPEAKER_05]: All right, we're going to change things. [SPEAKER_05]: A little bit more in the different direction.

[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, we want to change things in a different direction, which is one of the reasons why we were very glad when Utah State Senator Nate Bluen reached out and said, hey, can I come to the politics, why we're like, everybody can come to the politics bars. [SPEAKER_05]: Like you don't throw chairs, we don't care. [SPEAKER_05]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: But he said, I want to come and I want to talk about how I want to run for that new democratic leaning seat. [SPEAKER_05]: That's going to be in the U.S. House from Salt Lake City. [SPEAKER_05]: He said, all right, sure. [SPEAKER_05]: Nate Blun, he's gonna be here next. [SPEAKER_05]: We got questions for him and hopefully you do too. [SPEAKER_05]: So get your drink fresh enough. [SPEAKER_05]: It's Monday night take a breath. [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get into the news in the politics.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be right back after we'd pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_05]: Monday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much for joining us hanging out with us from wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_05]: Remember you guys can get out to us on any of our social media platforms. [SPEAKER_05]: What do you happen to be coming to us from the blue sky corner of the bar or threads?

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[SPEAKER_05]: State Sunday, make the way of Utah who has decided to throw his hat into the ring for that seat looks like it's opening up there in Salt Lake City Wow, how you doing man? [SPEAKER_04]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a fun day and things are good out here We got this really exciting opportunity for a progressive seat in Utah, which is not something that people think about when they hear about Utah So things are good not [SPEAKER_05]: Generally, I mean, you know, I've had some friends that you've had some friends in some woman friends that moved to Utah. [SPEAKER_05]: And also, I had a friend back in the day who was involved in the ex games.

[SPEAKER_05]: Love to, you know, skiing and snowboarding and all that stuff out of you. [SPEAKER_04]: That is, that's why I moved to Utah was to ski and be near the mountains and our public lands. [SPEAKER_05]: Where, where'd you go up originally? [SPEAKER_04]: I was from, I'm from New Hampshire. [SPEAKER_04]: I grew up [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so who has better skiing Utah or the hamster? [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, no question.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's Utah. [SPEAKER_04]: Utah's got maybe the best skiing in the world, like legitimately. [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm? [SPEAKER_05]: See, that's, I had to ask, I mean, I figured you'd tell Utah. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you're from Utah. [SPEAKER_05]: You're running for the state city.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, we love this. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you know, the good thing of the bars that we have, you know, we have a few button bars here behind the bar, and you know, we got good drinks as well. [SPEAKER_05]: So I've got my, my drink, my corn husker cup, by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we, you know, we are, my, my corn huskers are playing your eutes on December 3rd. [SPEAKER_05]: You have at least two eutes. [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, bad joke, but there's a bunch of eutes.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I know you'll be rooting for them so yeah exactly so okay, you know from from the front of the funny stuff there is more serious stuff obviously You you've had a lot of experience there in Utah Working with among other things a lot of green energy type of stuff

[SPEAKER_05]: uh... solar and wind uh... big problem there for a lot of people around the country in other areas of our may not know uh... Salt Lake City and moisture not as well as it used to be in there some problems with a wind blown off the did the lake the these are these are things that are

[SPEAKER_05]: local problems are my correct and yet there are solutions that could be expanded and go to other places in the country and would work maybe for things that need to be moved forward in the house. [SPEAKER_05]: Am I in my office on this or [SPEAKER_04]: No, water certainly, an absolutely gigantic concern here in Utah. [SPEAKER_04]: The great Salt Lake is something I've spent a lot of time thinking about and working on your ride. [SPEAKER_04]: It's in a pretty bad place.

[SPEAKER_04]: We hit a record low on the great Salt Lake a couple of years ago. [SPEAKER_04]: If we don't have a really, really good winter this year, we'll probably hit on [SPEAKER_04]: another record low despite the work that's been done, which I think there's good intentions, but a lot of a lack of urgency on that. [SPEAKER_04]: And so the problem is you get that thing dry and out.

[SPEAKER_04]: It impacts the bird migration, it impacts the brine shrimp industry, and there's nasty stuff in the dust, and in the lake bed that blows over the city, and I point three million people in Salt Lake County, and it really raises asthma issues and other public health concerns.

[SPEAKER_04]: funding from the federal level there's regulations with the endangered species act we could look at but the state's not going to be on those regulations with farming and things that are involved with that to supposedly Donald Trump said today. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we're going to do this farming thing. [SPEAKER_05]: Only no details. [SPEAKER_05]: He said, oh, well, you know, the China was going to buy soybeans. [SPEAKER_05]: No details. [SPEAKER_05]: No plan.

[SPEAKER_05]: And now there's details today that say no China's not going to buy soybeans. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Our big one's alfalfa here and alfalfa uses something like 70% of the water that would otherwise go into the Great Salt Lake and so that's a problem.

[SPEAKER_05]: So you're saying that there are other things that you guys could grow in Utah that might be a little bit more beneficial to the state maybe crop wise, maybe money wise for the farmers in Utah and also would help the water in the lake which helps everybody in Salt Lake City and the other cities that are in Utah. [SPEAKER_04]: Totally. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: There's there's some work that needs to be done to find.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's been some, you know, work on like hydroponic growing and some other, I haven't been other ideas to work around that. [SPEAKER_04]: But to their credit, the farmers are like some of the most hardworking people out there. [SPEAKER_04]: And they just want to do their job and regardless of anything else, like we've tried to subsidize them to say, hey, maybe you don't grow that last crop of alpha of the year. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll pay you not to do that.

[SPEAKER_05]: True. [SPEAKER_05]: True. [SPEAKER_05]: There is credit to go for that as well. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's, we're, we're here after some hard stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: My, uh, my pup died yesterday, which is. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It sucked. [SPEAKER_05]: It's hard. [SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's hard. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's nothing big. [SPEAKER_05]: It done is it was a health issue.

[SPEAKER_05]: And we didn't know about it. [SPEAKER_05]: There are a lot of hard working people. [SPEAKER_05]: And then that's one of the things, Jordi, and I was, we're, we're talking about in the, in that, that first segment. [SPEAKER_05]: She's, she's taking a drink. [SPEAKER_05]: Otherwise, she'd ask this question. [UNKNOWN]: So [SPEAKER_05]: Well here go ahead. [SPEAKER_05]: Now you're done.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, well with with with regard to what happened to Sean and like, I mean, I lost my dad years ago and I was working at the time. [SPEAKER_09]: Luckily, I did get a week off, but that's all I got. [SPEAKER_09]: But when my cat died, I had a day off because it was on a Sunday. [SPEAKER_09]: She died on a Saturday. [SPEAKER_09]: It was a Sunday and then Monday. [SPEAKER_09]: I was at work.

[SPEAKER_09]: You know, Sean, you know, luckily he it's just the two of us that do this show. [SPEAKER_09]: So [SPEAKER_09]: So it's just in the bar. [SPEAKER_05]: Other than the people hanging out with her from all over the country. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so I mean, if he's out, it's like, you know, and so I mean, with regard to say paid time leave and things like that, a lot of companies right now.

[SPEAKER_09]: If you want to get a new job, they say, oh, your PTO is three weeks a year, but that includes sick days. [SPEAKER_09]: That includes anything at all, not just vacation. [SPEAKER_09]: So to me, that doesn't seem fair to the average worker, I think if you're sick, you should get that time off and it shouldn't be taken out of your vacation time. [SPEAKER_09]: Does that make sense to you? [SPEAKER_04]: Totally.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think yeah, there's a whole lot of problems with the way that corporate America is able to dictate the terms and so many of these places. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's that's why I've been a long term supporter of organized labor because they have the power to come together and negotiate and we've we've had some real problems with the legislature and Utah trying to take some of those powers away. [SPEAKER_04]: So I think whether it's paid time off sick leave paid family leave.

[SPEAKER_04]: We don't even have I think the state only has a [SPEAKER_04]: maybe it's a six-week policy in Utah, but there's no requirement for private industry to even provide that. [SPEAKER_04]: One policy I'm going to propose this year in the legislative session actually is pay transparency so that at least companies [SPEAKER_04]: need to put a salary range on their position because people just underbid themselves. [SPEAKER_04]: They don't realize what their value is.

[SPEAKER_04]: They put in a lower number and then that sets them up for lower earnings throughout their entire career. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's especially true for women and folks who are just not in the habit of over selling themselves. [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's really sad that that's a thing that happens. [SPEAKER_09]: No, that's a great idea because I have when it before we started doing the shows trying to get a new job and I would only apply to jobs where I knew what the salary range was.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: It's, yeah, it makes good. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's important to know. [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, oh, that's a great job. [SPEAKER_09]: I could do that, but I don't know how much they're going to pay. [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm not even going to bother. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: And oftentimes, if you do find out, and then, of course, there's the whole thing about people applying and applying and applying and applying for jobs and getting nothing back, there are so many things that our government could be doing.

[SPEAKER_05]: And especially as as a Democrat in Utah, you seem to, you know, looked up a little of your history there, Nate, and you seem to be somebody who understands that just because you're in the minority doesn't mean that you have to give up. [SPEAKER_05]: that you're still trying to get things done, even if you're in the minority. [SPEAKER_05]: You might correct all that? [SPEAKER_04]: I think my philosophy has been like, look, I represent a district that is 75% or so progressive.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I won with a large majority of the vote. [SPEAKER_04]: People asked for someone who's gonna stand up on things like workers' rights and passing a higher minimum wage because we still have the 725. [SPEAKER_04]: minimum wage here in Utah, which is crazy, Medicare and all. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, just like common sense stuff that like would help people's lives.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if you are focused on compromising to get, you know, minor legislation across the board and there are Democrats in Utah, we'll take a fence to that. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's okay. [SPEAKER_04]: I think they're doing a good job with the approach they've taken.

[SPEAKER_04]: But it's a different approach than mine, and I think we need folks who are going to move the overton window or whatever you want to call it to push the needle a little bit and show that if we had the power here are the things that we would work on, we would put forward to help out our constituents and a C Democrats shine away from that a lot of the time.

[SPEAKER_05]: So you're you're okay with the the pragmatic kind of more of a list of the foreign approach where you get what you can But you also want to go a little bit more with the Bernie Sanders approach of why don't we do a little bit more or more like AOC who says hey, let's go for it. [SPEAKER_05]: If we don't get it, that's fine, but then against Elizabeth Warren does that, too. [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you don't get what you don't fight for.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah, you ask for more and What do you get what the bare minimum is that you want that's a good idea. [SPEAKER_09]: That's negotiations 101 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Bernie Sanders endorsed me super excited about that. [SPEAKER_04]: Nice. [SPEAKER_04]: Congrats.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, watching that fight over the shutdown and the Obamacare subsidies last month, whatever that was, was still going on, they got what, like two and a half weeks, left three weeks, left something like that, and we gave up and like we were fighting for something that people cared about. [SPEAKER_04]: The people were on our side and

[SPEAKER_05]: eight Democrats in the Senate gave up on it and I think that is that compromise approach like we should have held out because they would have either had to give in or like kill the filibuster and I think there's a lot of other there's a lot of other Democrats who are still pushing forward on it and still saying look you'll have to come up with something because you can't you can't beat something with nothing and nothing is what Republicans have so they're saying

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there are some of the Republicans centers who are now going, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, we may have to actually do this because Holy crap, we got to run for a luncheon. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, one of the Republicans here in Utah has been pushing higher premiums as the solution. [SPEAKER_04]: So the people take more responsibility over their health care decisions and like, come on, like, higher health savings accounts, like, come on.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: How does that actually help anybody, you know, you're granted gets sick and you still have to to your your primary caretaker and you have to go to your other job and your other job, and you can't then how does that help? [SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't help but working people there in Utah. [SPEAKER_09]: No, it doesn't. [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't. [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't. [SPEAKER_04]: It's got the doctor, by the way, that that representative.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, guys, let me guess. [SPEAKER_05]: He is a nice car, Mercedes, maybe a nice SUV there. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, probably.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's funny, a friend of mine is a dentist and he really would like that Medicare covers dentistry because that will help his older patients a lot, you know, because a lot of dentists find cancer, by the way, my dad, his dentist found his cancer because it was around one of his nerves and his teeth, and so that's how he discovered he had cancer because his dentist found it, you know, and so I don't understand why a doctor wouldn't want to say Medicare for all [SPEAKER_07]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know, come on. [SPEAKER_09]: It's so much. [SPEAKER_09]: The overhead is nothing. [SPEAKER_09]: I know a lot of corporations would like it because it would save them a small fortune. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Just an hiring people. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: So you have to go out and look for expensive healthcare. [SPEAKER_04]: You can have the flexibility to go and fail.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, business ideas and moving them forward. [SPEAKER_04]: You not have to worry about. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, if I if I mess it up, I'm not going to be without with with healthcare. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: the fall back on and I guess some people would think that's too much help from the government but I think that's a proper role. [SPEAKER_08]: I agree completely.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's just, some of the ideas it sounds like that you've got are not unusual that a lot of independence and Republicans probably actually support if they knew, if they didn't know that they came from a Democrat, they'd be like, hey, that's pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: When you've gone out and you've been canvassing, because I'm sure obviously for your state send a seat you have to, and now obviously if you're running for the house, when you talk to somebody who's an independent or Republican, [SPEAKER_05]: Um, do you find that they are, you know, I mean, you toss generally polite state in it. [SPEAKER_05]: You find their polite or do you find that they listen to some of your ideas and go, well, that's not bad.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't understand disagree. [SPEAKER_04]: I have found a few, I've found a bookways, you know, I remember early in my state Senate campaign, actually was out camp of seeing and met with a delegate from the Republican Party. [SPEAKER_04]: So someone who is actually quite involved, who shows up to the community meetings and votes on their candidates and that sort of thing. [SPEAKER_04]: And a nice conversation invited me in, I, you know, we sat down, we chatted about stuff.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think you actually signed my petition to help you give me on the ballot, [SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, there is there is respectful stuff like that when you keep it to the issues and then sometimes I know one of my family members my enlaz who is LDS somewhat conservative but like very principled and agrees with me on a lot of things someone [SPEAKER_04]: You know, lifted his shirt up and like showed off his gun tour and said, oh, I don't want you here.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, you kind of find some of both. [SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, the vast majority are either like, yeah, just don't really want to talk or you have a nice conversation and then you go your different direction. [SPEAKER_05]: But if you don't run for something which by the way, you're an alumni of if you don't run, then you don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that's got to get up there. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what you're doing. [SPEAKER_05]: I believe.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: We're not canvassing yet for this race, but we will. [SPEAKER_04]: And I knocked a lot of doors in. [SPEAKER_05]: I do know the state Republicans are in Utah. [SPEAKER_05]: Some of them are still trying to get this map knocked back. [SPEAKER_05]: And I know you guys have got some efforts that you're trying to fight to keep the map and make it fair and make sure that the folks in Salt Lake have some representation in Congress.

[SPEAKER_04]: correct yes we will have a special session tomorrow evening actually which I think we just got the [SPEAKER_04]: maps are the nothing match with the bills for commentator A and so that will be an interesting proceeding we'll see how it goes but yeah they're trying to overturn these decisions because they're not used to losing a new toss so we're going to push back hard and at least speak up for our constituents.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well we wish you so much luck if I were in Utah I would vote for you sir. [SPEAKER_05]: Nate feel free to come on back as the race comes around and we will have you back here at the politics [SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate you guys. [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, good luck tomorrow. [SPEAKER_05]: Good luck. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_05]: They say something. [SPEAKER_05]: They blow in from Utah. [SPEAKER_05]: Check out his website, Nate for Utah.com.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I did mention earlier that you know, we have one of our friends here in the bar list from blue sky, she's over in the blue sky corner of the bar hanging out with Scano and she says, I'm wanting to future people. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't hear your shows till later, but I have a question. [SPEAKER_05]: If the admiral who ordered the second strike gets convicted by the military court could orange moosellini pardon him.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: He was a committed war crimes in Iraq or in Iraq right. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, he did that in his during his first regime. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, so yes, he can so you know that you're you're busy. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe right. [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll double check. [SPEAKER_05]: We will check with some of our members of our legal bar. [SPEAKER_05]: You know, all the different ones that we have a scandal was hanging out over there with Liz.

[SPEAKER_05]: He says what Kegbrett is doing is a legend war crimes war is the alleged part. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the war is the electric car. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, the crimes are the actual part of that. [SPEAKER_05]: You can check that out in the first round at the news on Tap today.

[SPEAKER_05]: The interesting thing about that is that it really looks like from what we know, obviously because we haven't seen the tape, but the Congressional Democrats are still pushing to see the tape and the boat strike video itself seems to contradict the Trump and Magistories and also Admiral Bradley's story seemed to align with the video evidence that

[SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm thinking, well, and remember, we said that Cagbreath is there are some people in that Trump administration who are looking to get rid of him because he's causing too many problems. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And also now, no. [SPEAKER_05]: And remember, this was what? [SPEAKER_05]: Earlier, this summer was August here in the bar.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was telling you that I was hearing from some people downtown here at this end of the bar, that they were saying that those two that know and Cagbreath were causing problems, and there were people in the White House. [SPEAKER_05]: And now it sounds like the leaks are getting out that even those people are like, they're not keeping it quiet anymore, so. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, Cash Patels on the ropes, too.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, we've got at least three high cabinet members that are on the ropes right now for good reason, mind you. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: Plenty of legitimate reasons to get rid of all of them in competence being the biggest one among them. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, apparently with Chrissy no people don't like Corey Lewandowski's influence.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, they don't like the fact that Corey is basically poppin' her and that he is effectively running DHS, which, well, I don't like the fact that Stephen Miller is effectively running the country. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, Johnny's right, and also it's wrong that Stephen Miller is affected by the enemy country. [SPEAKER_05]: Stephen Miller should not be running anything. [SPEAKER_09]: No, there was a picture. [SPEAKER_09]: There was a meme that went out.

[SPEAKER_09]: He had Stephen Miller, Pete Hegg Seth, and I forget who else walking in there said, this is why you cover your drinks in a bar. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, out. [SPEAKER_05]: No, not wrong, not wrong, not wrong. [SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of drinks and bars we are here we are in a bar and we do have the drink of the day today which you know what [SPEAKER_05]: We can use that phrase on any one of those people we were just on. [SPEAKER_05]: Keg Brath, there no more cash for tell.

[SPEAKER_05]: They're doing a heck of a job, Brownie. [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: Jody, what is the drink of the day today? [SPEAKER_09]: The drink of the day is a Brownie cocktail, but it's not inspired by that. [SPEAKER_09]: It's inspired by National Brownie Day. [SPEAKER_09]: So go get yourself some Brownies. [SPEAKER_05]: Yay. [SPEAKER_05]: We like National Brownie Day. [SPEAKER_05]: We love Brownie.

[SPEAKER_05]: You can actually, [SPEAKER_05]: You can have your brownie, whatever way you want, THC or not, just saying. [SPEAKER_05]: You want to do brownie that way? [SPEAKER_05]: That is up to you. [SPEAKER_05]: But I do like you have to make cookies. [SPEAKER_09]: Don't even get me started on that. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I love brownies and cookies and all that good stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: But I got to watch myself on that kind of thing, you know?

[SPEAKER_05]: And I got to get walking because now I have to go to myself. [SPEAKER_05]: I know, but just isn't as easy. [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll figure that out. [SPEAKER_05]: I do like the history that you included. [SPEAKER_05]: And I dropped in a video because it was gifted. [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't realize that the Hilton Hotel Company actually bought the Palmer Hotel, which is in Chicago.

[SPEAKER_05]: For those of you folks listening on WCPT, you know, the Palmer, and that's where Brownies, at least the modern version of the Brownies started. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, the legend has it. [SPEAKER_09]: The first branding was created at the Palmer House in 1893. [SPEAKER_05]: Damn, it's been a while. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm sure that that batch is long since gone. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sure it is. [SPEAKER_09]: Birth of Palmer was the wife of the hotel magnet, Potter Palmer.

[SPEAKER_09]: I like birth of and Potter, the Palmer's. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's kind of a fun couple's name. [SPEAKER_05]: I also love the fact that you stack some nice facts in here. [SPEAKER_05]: Americans consume almost 1.5 billion brownies every year. [SPEAKER_05]: Like it's a puddle or not.

[SPEAKER_09]: I like the world's largest brownie was made from 210 packs of Betty Crocker brownie mix, 504 eggs, 6.1 gallons of vegetable oil, 2.5 gallons of water, and it was baked in Saudi Arabia in September of 2022, and it weighed 335.1 pounds. [SPEAKER_05]: That was no add some weight at the holidays, just saying that's not add some weight. [SPEAKER_09]: How do you add these on? [SPEAKER_09]: How do you add these on?

[SPEAKER_05]: What kind of fork do you realize you know exactly what they said to the bankers and then the cooks who were making that thing heck of a job, brownie And most people if you add stuff it's wall nuts or the most popular at and not for me. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not a big one I found but Well, that's how like the counter to the peanut butter. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm good with that, too. [SPEAKER_05]: Those are all good.

[SPEAKER_05]: Of course You know, we can't mention they they they they the brownies without mentioning the heck of a job brownie thing [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, the phrase that President George W. Bush said, then FEMA director Michael Brown during the botch response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005, to realize that Michael Brown went on to have a radio show in Denver, with a guy that we know, David Sarota, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And he resigned 10 days after the comment.

[SPEAKER_09]: Unfortunately after Donald said you're doing a great job. [SPEAKER_09]: Peter, whatever he said, you have a great job, Ronnie. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: The Pete Hegseth has yet to resign after the stupidity of Donald. [SPEAKER_05]: He would be nice if he did, but will. [SPEAKER_05]: We can't always have what we want, but we can't have a good drink of the day today. [SPEAKER_05]: So what is in this brownie cocktail, Jodie? [SPEAKER_09]: All right.

[SPEAKER_09]: You're going to need a shaker. [SPEAKER_09]: Some ice, a pre-chilled coupe glass, an ounce of cognac or other brandy. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: An ounce of dark creme de pecco, which is your chocolate flavored liqueur, a single, one ounce of single cream or half and half. [UNKNOWN]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: A six ounce of Kirchwasser, Cherry, Odevieve. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: And your garnish is grated nutmeg. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, so yummy.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I'm Marishina, Cherry. [SPEAKER_09]: I love nutmeg. [SPEAKER_05]: Do you like, do you like egg nong? [SPEAKER_05]: We'll have to get one. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I love egg nong. [SPEAKER_05]: See, we'll have to do one of those. [SPEAKER_05]: Love that, too. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I was going to do it for the Christmas, but there are so many other drinks. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, so what you do is you pour all your ingredients into the shaker. [SPEAKER_09]: You shake it until it's cold.

[SPEAKER_09]: You strain it into the coop glass and you float the grated nutmeg and skewer the cherry for garnish. [SPEAKER_05]: Just a little light nutmeg across the top for having to do. [SPEAKER_09]: How much it has as much as you want. [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, you float it on top of the drink and obviously you'll get mixed in at some point. [SPEAKER_09]: And then you skewer the cherry for garnish and it's a pretty drink and it sounds very yummy. [SPEAKER_05]: it's a dessert drink.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's a chicken drink and a dessert drink. [SPEAKER_05]: It's the kind of brownie that we'll lead you a recipe list of dessert drinks going forward. [SPEAKER_05]: And of course, if you want that recipe or any of the recipes in the drink of the day, yes, no, what to do. [SPEAKER_05]: Check it out. [SPEAKER_05]: Subscribe at the politics bar dot com. [SPEAKER_05]: All right, back to the news on tap for the day.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so Trump's boss of Latamir has made his [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if you saw this, we had it in Fridays news on tap as well, but the official national security strategy for the U.S. has been released and it is so pro-Russia and so white nationalist, it isn't even funny. [SPEAKER_05]: It's gross. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's absolutely disgusting, and this is as Paul Krugman says, we have his piece in the news on tap as well.

[SPEAKER_05]: The Trump regime's plan to modify Europe. [SPEAKER_05]: Thing is, is that Europe is in many ways pulling away from us here in the United States. [SPEAKER_09]: For good reason, I don't blame them. [SPEAKER_05]: Although it's interesting.

[SPEAKER_05]: I talked to a friend over the weekend who said that, [SPEAKER_09]: That the personally they still like the United States, but they're like we just can't deal with your government right now And I don't blame them and I wouldn't either I mean if I were running any other country outside of the United States and we were an ally So speak I'd be like now we're not sharing intel with them because it's gonna go to Putin I mean I would just be like hey, I like your people.

[SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: Don't like you guys [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and that's, that's the thing is they're like, why don't you people just get rid of this? [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, my God, your Americans come on. [SPEAKER_09]: If we could, if the rest of us could, we would. [SPEAKER_05]: We just, they're, they're an awful lot of people who are pissed and they should be. [SPEAKER_05]: And I think there's going to be even more people who are pissed on.

[SPEAKER_05]: And the second round and I, of the news on tab, the affordability crisis is here. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what? [SPEAKER_05]: not a hoax at all. [SPEAKER_05]: This is what some people in economics are calling a k-shaped Christmas. [SPEAKER_05]: The wealthy few are driving pretty much all of the spending surges, but everybody else is struggling to get by.

[SPEAKER_05]: And in fact, things are going to get a little bit worse after holidays, unless things can be taken care of and Trump can be kicked out of with all of his tariffs.

[SPEAKER_05]: Which [SPEAKER_05]: The constitution is pretty clear that he does not have the power to do what he's doing with tariffs, but if he doesn't, all those companies that bought all that stuff earlier in the year, they've run out of supply, especially they bought through the holidays, but that's about all they could do. [SPEAKER_05]: They run out of stuff, they have been eating about 50% of the tariff costs, and that's all they could do on that, too. [UNKNOWN]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: When the holidays are done, they're gonna have to push probably 60, 70, 80% of the turf costs on a consumer's. [SPEAKER_09]: Of course, because they have to operate. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: They have to pay their people live. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you walk into, I mean, Lonnie does go to Walmart on occasion, and even before the stupid tariffs, I mean, you could hardly find anybody in the store. [SPEAKER_09]: Because Walmart is, number are you crazy?

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they spend on paying people, and they spend on hiring people. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a lot of things back that they used to have at those stores. [SPEAKER_05]: You can shoot a cannonball through most home depots and not anybody.

[SPEAKER_09]: Unless you're there to buy something and then return it to... [SPEAKER_05]: Like there was wonderful folks did with their little ice graper's which Fantastic, you know, that's that's that's why I always a friend of mine in radio back in the day We used to joke about home depot.

[SPEAKER_05]: He would say that He would have his little accent if he would say it is the home that spot you will have Shag carpeting on the walls because this is the home that spot [SPEAKER_05]: And I was always, you know, laughing, he would do this whole routine about it. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, I can imagine, you know, a little old German guy going, you know, you know, they'll have pink with the green and give it. [SPEAKER_05]: And you're like, okay, you get to a home Despawn.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's a Despawn in your home. [SPEAKER_05]: Why would you, you know, why would you allow that? [SPEAKER_05]: Why would you vote for that? [SPEAKER_05]: This is America, but obviously some people did. [SPEAKER_05]: So. [SPEAKER_05]: We do not recommend having a despot in your home or outside your home or pretty much anywhere. [SPEAKER_05]: Despots are not good things, just say, there you go. [SPEAKER_05]: We do have somebody coming in who is not a despot.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's actually a good friend of ours. [SPEAKER_05]: Brooklyn Dad Define is coming in tonight and he happens to have a really good piece over at his sub stack, at Define Dispatches. [SPEAKER_05]: It's called the price of a protest vote, Dearborn and the return of fear politics. [SPEAKER_05]: If you haven't read it, you can go to our news on to have go to the guest section at the bottom and check out under his picture there.

[SPEAKER_05]: You can check out on the profile and click over to define dispatches or if you're subscribed on Substack, just go to your Substack and find his Substack and read it because I think it's important but understanding there are costs to all kinds of things. [SPEAKER_05]: Protest votes included. [SPEAKER_05]: And people need to be looking at those costs as we go towards elections. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, there is some elections tomorrow. [SPEAKER_05]: We will have to talk about it.

[SPEAKER_05]: You folks in Miami, we got to talk to you guys about that. [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody is taking around including you folks at WCPT for our next hour. [SPEAKER_05]: So we will, yeah, I love that. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, thank you. [SPEAKER_05]: No, thank you. [SPEAKER_05]: We will talk to all of our friends around the country coming up. [SPEAKER_05]: And of course, we'll have Brooklyn Dad to find it.

[SPEAKER_05]: So look, do what you got to do. [SPEAKER_05]: You got to go down the hall, left, right, center, whatever. [SPEAKER_05]: It is the top of the hour, and that's how we do it around here. [SPEAKER_05]: Go get yourself taken care of, maybe go to the store, check out politicsbar.com, and then come back here, and we'll have more of the news on top for you, all right? [SPEAKER_05]: All right, do your thing, dance people, it's a Monday night! [SPEAKER_06]: Well, let it go!

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, ready to come! [SPEAKER_00]: You think it's a part where we want the politics part! [SPEAKER_02]: Shotsmith, Pearson, Jodie, Helton! [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Jodie! [SPEAKER_09]: Hello, Sean! [SPEAKER_05]: It is Monday evening! [SPEAKER_05]: Been kind of a... Melancholy? [SPEAKER_05]: Huh? [SPEAKER_05]: Melancholy? [SPEAKER_05]: Melancholy is a good word for it, yeah, little bit of melancholy today, but things are getting better.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's getting better in part because I'm hanging out with you, and we're hanging out with all these wonderful people in the bar. [SPEAKER_05]: So we're extremely glad you guys are hanging out with us from wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_05]: Whether that happens to be the George and now radio folks down in the ATL with the AM950 folks at Minneapolis St. Paul.

[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe you were listening on DJ or talk in Tennessee or AM820 Chicago WCPT or maybe you were listening on progressive voices worldwide. [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe you're one of those future people, like we talked to earlier, you know, Liz and Scano hanging out. [SPEAKER_05]: You guys caught some trouble over there. [SPEAKER_05]: Kind of out, but it's more a pain to each other. [SPEAKER_09]: That's enough of that. [SPEAKER_05]: We'll do peanuts tomorrow. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, we will.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It is totally worth it to subscribe. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_05]: So, we do have some of the news of the day news on tap and we went through the first round and the second round and then the third round. [SPEAKER_05]: notice, remember we talked about this here a couple weeks back, Jody. [SPEAKER_05]: We said Greg Bavina was afraid of snow and ice, but snow. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he loves ice. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was wrong about the ice, but he does love at the warm places like New Orleans as well. [SPEAKER_05]: That's where he's at actually doing plenty of attacks down there, which is just absolutely stupid. [SPEAKER_05]: We've got the update on that. [SPEAKER_05]: They also attacked Representative Garhalla at an event in Tucson. [SPEAKER_05]: Why am I not surprised at that? [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, the fact of the matter is she identified herself as a representative.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I mean, man handled her and yelled at her and then her operator. [SPEAKER_05]: Christy, the Nome's people actually uh, man handled your senator. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, they did, they threw it to the ground. [SPEAKER_05]: Wait a minute, wait a minute, what's what is the thing that's Senator Padilla and Representative Gralva have in common? [SPEAKER_09]: They're heritage. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Kristi Nome and ice and Greg Vivino and all those people are racist is hell.

[SPEAKER_05]: I got no problem saying it. [SPEAKER_05]: And for those people who are listening in places like the cities, where you're dealing with Trump's racist hatred of the Somali's or in Chicago, God, you guys know about it too. [SPEAKER_05]: We're pretty much ending around the country. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't understand. [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody seems to know how racist and how evil ice is right now.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's just, I mean, Obama got a lot of crap because he deported a lot of people, but [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: The difference, there are a lot of differences. [SPEAKER_05]: One of the big differences was that they were not deporting people in general. [SPEAKER_05]: In fact, both Obama and Biden, as I recall, deprioritized, they prioritized people who were criminals and deprioritized those who were not. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: And they didn't go, I don't know, to say hearings where people are about to be sworn in and take people. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, and also the fact that they have been they tried there has been in the 25 last 25 years there have been at least four major immigration bills all by Democrats as I recall and to to fix our immigration systems. [SPEAKER_05]: and every single time they've been killed by Republicans.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, Donald even said it out right with the one that could have passed that and could have passed the Senate and Biden would have signed it into law and Donald said don't do it. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: So, I understand the Democrats do need to continue pushing forward. [SPEAKER_05]: But there are people who still say, Democrats haven't done anything and I would say that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I would say that because I'm like, what do you think is that they're laying their ass on the line for you man? [SPEAKER_05]: Who do you think is trying to get this stuff done? [SPEAKER_05]: There are people who actually, you know, yes, there are some some squish Democrats who are, they want more a deal than they care about the quality deal. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's important to quality the deal. [SPEAKER_05]: It's important to quality whatever legislation it goes through.

[SPEAKER_05]: But at the same time, [SPEAKER_05]: You know, sometimes you just kind of move forward. [SPEAKER_05]: You got to get some stuff done. [SPEAKER_05]: That immigration deal that Biden and a lot of Democrats were ruling the back, it wasn't great, but it would have fixed a number of problems in the system. [SPEAKER_09]: It would have, it never happened. [SPEAKER_09]: I can speak. [SPEAKER_09]: There were Republicans that were for it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, until Donald Trump told them, no, absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: There's such a challenge. [SPEAKER_05]: Joe is 100% right on that one. [SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of quality, looks like you've got a quality candidate down in Miami, down on the fourth round in the election land section. [SPEAKER_05]: Miami tomorrow, if you are listening down there, there's a mayoral election.

[SPEAKER_05]: Miami has done Democratic mayor in almost 30 years, that's like buddy buddy die up in Orlando has been there since, you know, the broader source is rolled here But that's but look Miami you guys have a chance to elect a Democratic mayor tomorrow. [SPEAKER_05]: You should absolutely Representative Colin already has dropped out of the Senate race in Texas [SPEAKER_05]: He's actually moving into one of the house races that has been created.

[SPEAKER_05]: And he, you know, he used to be a house representative. [SPEAKER_05]: So chances are pretty good. [SPEAKER_05]: He could win. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm excited about that. [SPEAKER_05]: Jasmine Crocket. [SPEAKER_05]: I hadn't heard anything by the time we got into the bar here. [SPEAKER_09]: I hope you're going to announce.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's a room where that she's she may have already announced, especially if you're one of those future people by the time you listen to this so there you go and of course we talked to a democratic state senator Nate blue and earlier in Utah he's looking to get into that where he's in fact he is in that race for that district and I think it's actually seven I'm not 100% [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I think, well, he's been in 13. [SPEAKER_05]: I think the new one is seven.

[SPEAKER_05]: Something like that. [SPEAKER_05]: The details. [SPEAKER_05]: We've got them there in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of deals, um, there is one that's that it's kind of important. [SPEAKER_05]: So Paramount has launched a hostile take over bid for Warner Brothers discovery, trying to derail Netflix's deal. [SPEAKER_05]: And what they keep forgetting is a lot of these deals that they any of these deals.

[SPEAKER_05]: They still have to go through a bunch of different regulatory agencies. [SPEAKER_05]: Some of the regulatory agencies are not even here in the United States because these are worldwide corporations.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, if they wanted to, in theory, they could carve off, and, oh, this is the European thing, and then the American thing, and there are companies that have done that, but this is going to be, and it seems like there are a lot of people on all sides who are against [SPEAKER_05]: against Netflix buying Warner Bros. [SPEAKER_05]: Discovery and against Paramount buying Warner Bros. [SPEAKER_05]: Discovery.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, do we know I don't think I've ever read anything about why Warner Bros. is wanting to sell? [SPEAKER_05]: It's all about some of it. [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say it's all about, but some of it is about burying debt. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: So, Warner Bros. and Discovery merged. [SPEAKER_08]: I remember. [SPEAKER_08]: A few years ago. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: No, no. [SPEAKER_05]: Dirty's right.

[SPEAKER_05]: But when you get to merge, you have, you know, oh, we find synergies, we call them. [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_05]: Some of it is about just cutting people. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: But some of it is about, they can bury and hide dead. [SPEAKER_05]: When they do mergers and acquisitions. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what they want to do. [SPEAKER_05]: They want to bury and hide dead.

[SPEAKER_09]: So basically, what are you telling me is that Warner Bros. doesn't have very good accountants? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I would say they're good accounts because they're not in jail. [SPEAKER_05]: There you go. [SPEAKER_09]: We're very good money managers. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's like, you know, it's a multi-billion dollar business. [SPEAKER_09]: What? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, but it's, it's the people, the top trying to scrape off. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and pocket stuff for themselves.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, at the entertainment business, it's notorious for not paying people.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, absolutely four scum is a perfect example when the guy that wrote the book sold the rights to I guess it was universal He didn't have an entertainment lawyer because he didn't know any entertainment lawyers So his deal was I think they paid him like a hundred grand for the rights plus a percentage of the net There is never a net [SPEAKER_09]: Never, there will never be a net profit scene from anything ever. [SPEAKER_05]: But percentage of gross now percentage of this.

[SPEAKER_09]: And because that movie grossed over a billion dollars and he was like, where's my money? [SPEAKER_09]: And they're like, oh, it still hasn't netted a profit. [SPEAKER_09]: And he was only going to get like 3% or something. [SPEAKER_09]: It wasn't like a huge amount. [SPEAKER_09]: Should they have netted anything? [SPEAKER_09]: Because basically, we've got to pay Tom Hanks. [SPEAKER_09]: His bit, we've got to pay Barry his bit.

[SPEAKER_09]: We've got to pay the producers there stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: And then, oh, he got screwed. [SPEAKER_09]: He got screwed. [SPEAKER_03]: He got screwed. [SPEAKER_09]: Before we got the distribution, we've got to pay for him a little, a little, a little, a little. [SPEAKER_09]: And so luckily, he did finally get a good lawyer. [SPEAKER_09]: And I think he finally got his money.

[SPEAKER_09]: the way that the fuzzy accounting is in the entertainment industry, nobody technically nets a profit.

[SPEAKER_05]: some of those kinds of things like entertainment like you know anywhere you work in media uh you know I I always say don't trust any of the executives and definitely don't trust lawyers it's just one of those things get your own I mean you know it's like nuclear bombs they have there so you have to have yours as soon as anybody uses them it just asks everything up by the way to give credit that that line from other people's money great play great to say

[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, look who just popped in. [SPEAKER_05]: Here he is. [SPEAKER_05]: Playing around while I'm talking about theater and we're talking about entertainment. [SPEAKER_05]: Be the neighborhood and that defined. [SPEAKER_05]: Mr. Majeed. [SPEAKER_01]: How you doing? [SPEAKER_01]: How's your weekend? [SPEAKER_01]: Yay. [SPEAKER_01]: It was good. [SPEAKER_05]: It was good. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, good. [SPEAKER_05]: Good. [SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully, I hope it was a little better than mine.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if you saw that in the news on Tap today that my pup died over the weekend. [SPEAKER_05]: So that was good. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm so sorry. [SPEAKER_05]: It was very sudden. [SPEAKER_05]: Really sucks. [SPEAKER_05]: We talked about it earlier in the show. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to bring things to a screaming screeching halt, but it was his heart. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a man dude. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry, man.

[SPEAKER_01]: My heart goes out to you because I mean, I'm totally totally a pet guy. [SPEAKER_01]: I've got the dog that I adore and you know, how was your pup? [SPEAKER_01]: She's 10. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And how are the kittens doing? [SPEAKER_01]: There you go. [SPEAKER_01]: They're adorable. [SPEAKER_01]: You can totally adorable.

[SPEAKER_05]: Look, our pets are a member of our family just as much as humans, and in fact, sometimes we like them a lot more than the humans in our family. [SPEAKER_01]: Can I tell you, like, in my entire life, I've always had cats ever since I was a kid, right? [SPEAKER_01]: But where I am now, I had never dawned on me that I would be bringing cats to the vet, to the, like, when I was little.

[SPEAKER_01]: This was not something that my mom was doing the only time we went, which was cats anywhere was like, well, cats old and we can't do anything sick and we can't, we can't save her, and, you know, so many times my, [SPEAKER_01]: my sister and I would be there tearful as we were, you know, handing the cat off. [SPEAKER_01]: But it never dawned on me that I would be taking the dog and cats to vet on a regular basis. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mean like once a year.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, you know, something is a miss like there's a rash. [SPEAKER_05]: Somebody ate something. [SPEAKER_05]: There's right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: You know. [SPEAKER_05]: Look, they are for a lot of people, including us, they are extra kids for you, BDD. [SPEAKER_05]: They are kids for people like Jody and I, I mean, they are small, smaller members of the family that can't necessarily fend for themselves.

[SPEAKER_05]: So you take them to the doctors and you do whatever and you make this sacrifices for them.

[SPEAKER_05]: that's kind of where we were talking earlier today is is that a lot of people that don't understand they they may see you here at the bar they may see you hanging out over Joe Joe's place they may see what their place is online and they're like bdd he's he's semi-famous I know him he's always got a nice set up and you know he sounds good to get that snazzy suit he's got the picture that the guest page man he's making it he's he's made it already he made a

[SPEAKER_07]: No, I wouldn't say that. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_05]: And we're reminding folks that, you know, we all make sacrifices for the beings that we love, whether they be human or whether they be small and furry. [SPEAKER_05]: And the way our systems are set up right now, economic, social, everything. [SPEAKER_05]: They are not set up to help us take care of some of these little people as much as they should be. [SPEAKER_05]: And we need to fix that.

[SPEAKER_05]: BDD is like, I get you, but I'm dancing because I want to make you smile. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what he's doing. [SPEAKER_05]: He succeeds at that. [SPEAKER_05]: He always succeeds at making all of us smile. [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to talk with you, BDD about your piece that you wrote at Defy Dispatches. [SPEAKER_05]: And of course, we got to talk about some of the other news on tap for the evening. [SPEAKER_05]: So, here's what you do.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I know we're going to the break. [SPEAKER_05]: If you missed it earlier, he know where it is down Hall, left-right center, whatever. [SPEAKER_05]: But, uh, BDD is coming back. [SPEAKER_05]: We will have more Mondays with Machide freshener drink. [SPEAKER_05]: Come on back. [SPEAKER_05]: It's Chotty Hamilton. [SPEAKER_05]: Me? [SPEAKER_05]: A Brooklyn dad to find. [SPEAKER_05]: Hanging out with you on a Monday. [SPEAKER_03]: Come right back, hang on.

[SPEAKER_05]: Monday night, Monday's with Masjid. [SPEAKER_05]: That's what it means around here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you very much for hanging out with us. [SPEAKER_05]: And hanging out with Mr. Masjid, Brooklyn Dad Defiant. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, he's still dancing and making faces. [SPEAKER_05]: And no, I'm not going to break. [SPEAKER_05]: Joe, he's trying to get pictures up on the video.

[SPEAKER_05]: Which, at least we will get a little bit of video up there a little bit later this evening. [SPEAKER_05]: You got the confetti, somebody threw confetti at you, and fireworks. [SPEAKER_05]: All right, I love that. [SPEAKER_05]: No fireworks in here. [SPEAKER_05]: No throwing chairs either.

[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, by the way, to everybody who reached out to us on all of our great social media platforms, whether you are on Blue Sky, Threads, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Substack, or any on YouTube, or get all those places at the politics park. [SPEAKER_05]: Which is actually where you guys are at right now. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we're pretty glad about that. [SPEAKER_05]: BDD, what did you do this weekend? [SPEAKER_05]: Entertainment was.

[SPEAKER_05]: You go see any movies, any TV, listening albums? [SPEAKER_01]: What I was supposed to do was get my Christmas decorations up. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm totally behind. [SPEAKER_01]: I will be doing that tonight. [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, you still haven't gotten your decorations up yet? [SPEAKER_01]: Look, we have the tree up in the house, but it's the neighborhood I have to represent. [SPEAKER_01]: And I am the second to last house [SPEAKER_01]: Um, put up the decoration.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I get the flannel. [SPEAKER_01]: Tis the season to wear flannel. [SPEAKER_01]: Follow a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Austin butler is in this. [SPEAKER_01]: Love how. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And it touches on a whole lot of different topics that were like, I think it was about like a based on a real thing like a mega sheriff and like the rest of town and yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was it was wild and even even kind of dealt with the [SPEAKER_01]: the communities resistance to data centers for AI.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's an Arizona absolutely right we had a lot of that to here in in the Virginia corner of the bar there is there There were some some people who would run in some of the Virginia races here with the elections is here and they're like because that there there is so between me and Where I would get my haircut They're used to be like all these trees just tons and tons of trees

[SPEAKER_05]: and in the last two years they have cut down almost all the trees and they put up data centers and said oh that's awful. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's I'm like this is really dumb. [SPEAKER_05]: It used to be really nice in the summertime because it was you go through the hills and it was cool 12 trees and now it's how to tell.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, data centers are, data centers are a scourge, and my whole thing is there needs to be more and more regulation that says, look, we've already got these crappy places in plenty of downtown areas, they're concrete blocks already. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, why, why build more?

[SPEAKER_05]: Right, put them there, keep the green stuff or the green stuff is, keep the concrete stuff and the other thing that I keep thinking of is that more or more cities need to actually put efforts into greening the tops building. [SPEAKER_05]: All that all that all that all that all that all that all that all that all that all about.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was behind the curve on the whole data center thing and just in AI in general just like learning about like there's a lot of opposition to them because the water, you know, ordered that these centers use and I wasn't even aware of that either so yeah I'm also in power because we don't have the power regulations in the United States have sorely need to be updated.

[SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of times what they do is basically the data centers pop up along big ass like right next to the big power lines that you see. [SPEAKER_05]: And then they could just suck right off of those and they're like, oh, I'm taking whatever I want. [SPEAKER_05]: Because the regulations allow them to do that. [SPEAKER_05]: And by doing that, it actually ends up driving up the cost of power for everybody else in the area where it could be.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And it could be, look, if you're going to do that and you're going to put these data centers out there. [SPEAKER_05]: What you could do also be required to do is put up solar cells on top of the buildings and put up with a windmills along with the buildings Well, and that way you are generating your own power and not screw in the rest of us in the neighborhood [SPEAKER_05]: So, there's a lot of, there's a lot of things like that out there.

[SPEAKER_05]: The people, they do not, they have not thought of, it's one of the reasons why some of this regulations have to be so freaking important, it's important to have good regulation. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, there's many billions of dollars going into this AI. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to blow. [SPEAKER_09]: It's about, it's about bubbles about to burst. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just full.

[SPEAKER_01]: But why are they charging us for it, you know, I'm saying, I don't think the average person [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even want to use it. [SPEAKER_05]: I was perfectly fine with search engines, the way that they worked here five and ten years ago, because search engines are like, it's fine. [SPEAKER_05]: This is what it helped me find what I wanted. [SPEAKER_05]: Not what somebody else wants to sell to me.

[SPEAKER_05]: unlike yet that's and that's the perfect example of another good example of bad regulation so the uh... the college football playoff so we got that in the fifth round we were talking about that before you came in here bdd so indiana grab the top seat and they defeated a higher state which uh... uh... our friend who came in here uh... from Ukraine here jodie couple weeks ago uh... he you you he will be thrilled with because he was uh... not hey a high-oste if he's not

[SPEAKER_05]: But Indiana grab the top seats, Alabama and Miami made the play of Notre Dame. [SPEAKER_05]: Have I ever told you guys the nickname that in college sports, a lot of college sports people. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if they still do it, but they did when I was doing college sports. [SPEAKER_01]: So to fight in Irish? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's normally what it is, yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right, there are official nicknames, but for those people who work in a business, you have nicknames for different people or different groups all the time. [SPEAKER_05]: Like for example, Kansas State, you know, when I was working for the Huskers, we [SPEAKER_05]: which of course occasionally when the case day people heard us.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, you know, whatever, but at the same time, if you talk to other people, they will know, you'll say like if you're talking to somebody who's in the big 12 and you say mild cats and they'll know exactly what you're talking about, you know? [SPEAKER_05]: There are different people, different groups, like for example, some people forget that it's the Purdue Boyle makers.

[SPEAKER_05]: But they'll be like plumber guy you're like right the plumber guy people right It's not a plumber guy. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a pipe fitter, but whatever my step there was a pipe fitter But I get it. [SPEAKER_05]: I get it. [SPEAKER_05]: I get it. [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever right Well, the nickname that you toss around in the back you go. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, how the Huskers do. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's kind of how the mild cats it It's fine.

[SPEAKER_05]: You talk about Notre Dame a lot of college sports people will go. [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, had it overrated do [SPEAKER_05]: And the reason is is because Notre Dame can be the absolute worst team. [SPEAKER_05]: They're not this time, but they could be the absolute worst team. [SPEAKER_05]: And Notre Dame fans are like maggots. [SPEAKER_05]: In the sense, the mega always says, Donald Trump is the best thing from Slythera's plan. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, that's true.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's I got I got a friend who's a Raiders fan and this is what he is. [SPEAKER_05]: I get it this but but that's that's the whole thing is that everybody's got, you know, Ohio State fans always were like, we're fine. [SPEAKER_05]: And then they do the big over their head and then the handcuffs get stuck. [SPEAKER_05]: And I know I know you Ohio State fans don't yell at me. [SPEAKER_09]: No, is that Ohio State or the Ohio State?

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you know, I don't use the V because I'm like every guy when I see him in the NFL if they come from that school They say from the field Ohio state [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: No, you bet the other one. [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's anyway, but, but now when it comes to note a name, though, Notre Dame is often because, I mean, think about it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Notre Dame is they are not really a school that is aligned with anyone particular chapter in part because they have access to the Catholic Church's bank role. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they do. [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, they don't have to be aligned with any particular conference because they say, my conference is God. [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, they, and you go, well, I'm kind of okay, you know, who's the Pope's team? [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, besides the Chicago White Sex.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, today. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, come on. [SPEAKER_09]: It's, it's Pope Bob, anything in Chicago.

[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly, it's Pope Bomb the idea of a Pope Bob like whoa He'll be your Wednesday anyway So I wish But but The whole thing that that when it comes to Notre Dame is like I said in in sports talk it used to be that we was joking referred to as overrated This year, I don't think so they did actually really pretty good this year, but they still got screwed

[SPEAKER_05]: And because they got screwed out of the the conference championship, they're trying to do all this playoff and yet there's still so many parts about it that are not set up in the regulations. [SPEAKER_05]: It's still very much somebody's version of what something should be as opposed to a set of rules hard and fast. [SPEAKER_05]: So Notre Dame didn't get picked. [SPEAKER_05]: And what they said this year is fine. [SPEAKER_05]: We don't need it.

[SPEAKER_05]: We don't need a bowl game if you were done. [SPEAKER_05]: And that has set off a bunch of because they did that then a couple other teams Iowa State and Kansas State didn't have great years.

[SPEAKER_05]: they got new coaches and or they are looking whatever and they're like you know what their players I think was Iowa State where their players themselves voted and said we don't want to go to a bowl game and they're like get put but but you you you you you want to make up no no no we're not interested we want to focus on ourselves we got hurt a lot this year

[SPEAKER_05]: we want to we're not going to and so everyone's up in arms and now they're like all the regulations and I have been warning about this for a long time because the regulations and college sports have been so lags have been so bad that eventually if they didn't get their crap together Congress is going to be poking around to turn off it it failed last week there was something called the

[SPEAKER_05]: We're basically Congress would have set down rules for how the national football championship and other things would have been. [SPEAKER_05]: And it was not a great piece of legislation and I'm glad it failed. [SPEAKER_05]: but it doesn't mean that they aren't going to go back to that well. [SPEAKER_05]: They're going to keep crying trying to go back to it because they're like, this is really bad and also there are bajillions and bajillions of dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: So many dollars. [SPEAKER_01]: Did you guys already discuss how Donald Trump now wants to change the name of football to something else? [SPEAKER_01]: No, hand-aeg or something. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, when the FIFA game and the fake, the fake award, [SPEAKER_09]: he said well that's football we call it soccer we have football here but it's not really football. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god part of that whole FIFA piece prize. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah he's a piece of population prize.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah it's participation trophy. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly yeah look it is it is well known around the world that whether you are in private business or whether you are a government [SPEAKER_05]: He'll be nice to you and give you what you want. [SPEAKER_09]: And of course, Qatar is going, wait, we give him a plane. [SPEAKER_09]: All we had to do is give him a stupid, dumb award. [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, the whole Paramount thing. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a big thing there.

[SPEAKER_09]: We had six million dollars while we had to do is give him a trophy. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, but not only that, so that we've got both of those stories in the news on Tapio and I hit on this little bit earlier. [SPEAKER_05]: So the Netflix, you know, Ted Serando's met with Trump. [SPEAKER_07]: He did. [SPEAKER_05]: A head of Netflix is winning bid for Warner Bros.

[SPEAKER_05]: And this is after the elicens basically gave a crap ton of money to Donald Trump and I've been doing his bidding gave Malania her own freaking movie. [SPEAKER_05]: And yet, well, but this is this, this is why you have rules and regulations that are set up, probably this way of laws that are set up so that it's not a government of some guy going, I don't know. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't like you. [SPEAKER_05]: I like you. [SPEAKER_05]: That's not how it works.

[SPEAKER_05]: We didn't even put it in the news on tap because it was so disgusting to me. [SPEAKER_05]: The Kennedy Center honors and people asking Donald Trump are you going to rename the Kennedy Center. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, he wants to. [SPEAKER_09]: And and I mean, he even changed the look of the award. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah, they changed it because remember it always used to be the rainbow ribbon rainbow ribbon rainbow ribbon and then this this medallion that's underneath it's beautiful.

[SPEAKER_09]: Right now I know it's anything you can barely see it and it's stupid. [SPEAKER_05]: And hopefully they will hopefully they will change it back that that is something that we have to make sure to press for and for One of the issues obviously is accountability one of his affordability and as accountability goes We're going to if they change the name of the Kennedy Center when it gets done we need to change it back to the police and we need to take the same off the piece thing and

[SPEAKER_05]: erase every single trace of Trump except for in the history books when they look up failure and mistake and criminal. [SPEAKER_01]: You said that's the name of the name. [SPEAKER_01]: The center is not up to him. [SPEAKER_05]: It's up to the board, which he's hand-pitched because he fired everybody. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_05]: A point. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a lot of.

[SPEAKER_09]: He's removed now four, but two important holidays so you can't get into parks that charge for free, which is okay. [SPEAKER_09]: But hey, his birthday, you can get in for free. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, because his birthday is also flagged. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's his excuse. [SPEAKER_05]: How convenient. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: There was a crazy thing that happened on the internet that I literally just saw on TikTok and I'll give you the readest digest version.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right. [SPEAKER_01]: A woman was commenting about that very thing you just mentioned about the MLK and Juneteenth. [SPEAKER_01]: It's somebody commented negatively. [SPEAKER_01]: under her post. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And she found out where this person worked. [SPEAKER_05]: I saw that. [SPEAKER_01]: Topped in a car drove three hours to his place of work, confronted him. [SPEAKER_01]: And like she wasn't like, you know, rabbit. [SPEAKER_01]: She was actually smiling.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was the most bizarre thing. [SPEAKER_01]: She's, you know, she's only got the camera on herself. [SPEAKER_01]: And she says, I need you to read this apology that I wrote. [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, I will share your grinder information with your wife.

[SPEAKER_05]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha [SPEAKER_05]: You and me both were high school for a little learning. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we'll talk about all that coming up.

[SPEAKER_05]: We've got more news on tap. [SPEAKER_05]: We've got one more round with Brooklyn Dad to fight. [SPEAKER_05]: At least one more round, so fresh in your drinks. [SPEAKER_05]: It is a Monday night. [SPEAKER_05]: That's if you want to, like, be the deers. [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks for hanging out with us here. [SPEAKER_05]: At the politics bill. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go all for a Monday night.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, it's my, [SPEAKER_09]: Oh absolutely.

[SPEAKER_05]: I have said this many times you know you're at the grocery line or whatever and the computers give and hell and you just saved the first mind the counter who's obviously frustrated too and you say, I don't have to fix this. [SPEAKER_05]: I say really, how do you fix it? [SPEAKER_05]: You sell them. [SPEAKER_05]: Look, you use the universal computer repair tool and I say, what's that? [SPEAKER_05]: You say, let's do 12 pound sled chamber and they kind of check them.

[SPEAKER_05]: They go, no really. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, what would that do? [SPEAKER_05]: When you go with simple, look, right now your computer is causing hell. [SPEAKER_05]: See you or maybe your manager got on the line. [SPEAKER_05]: You guys called your IT people. [SPEAKER_05]: You call [SPEAKER_05]: And they say, yep, I haven't probably computer or what do you do? [SPEAKER_05]: And they don't know what to do. [SPEAKER_05]: You don't know what to do. [SPEAKER_05]: The computer screwed up.

[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's pissed off. [SPEAKER_05]: Doesn't work at all. [SPEAKER_05]: Now you use the universal computer repair tool. [SPEAKER_05]: So computer acts up, bam, you put a 12 pound sledge hammer through it. [SPEAKER_05]: Then you call up the IT line. [SPEAKER_05]: They say, hey, what's your problem? [SPEAKER_05]: You say, well, you got a 12 pound sledge hammer through the computer. [SPEAKER_05]: They go, well, hell, we'll just send you a new computer.

[SPEAKER_05]: You go like very much. [SPEAKER_05]: you're happy they're happy the computer isn't happy but who cared it was messed up anyway so computer if you'd like to be happy no mess things up there you go every happy universal computer repair tool club hands-led camera works every time half the time just and here I was silly me thinking that the solution was to hire a guy a local guy who knows computers to fix my [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you want to do something.

[SPEAKER_05]: What the hell are you on? [SPEAKER_05]: Democrat, come on. [SPEAKER_05]: You actually don't want to get things done. [SPEAKER_05]: And fix things? [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I felt good supporting my, you know, the local service people, you know? [SPEAKER_05]: No, I think you should. [SPEAKER_05]: You absolutely, I do recommend, you know, knowing a good local service person.

[SPEAKER_05]: One of my best friends for about 30 years before he got sick of it was an appliance repair technician, you know, solve almost any appliance problem. [SPEAKER_05]: Still does, even though he's doing the other things these days. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there guys know that every once in a while your laptop you should get the dust you should have it dusted Yeah, it's not that my dust my laptop all of them dust it and you know why draw from whatever Like no, no, not the outside the inside.

[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's that's something else you can do I mean it's [SPEAKER_09]: Part of it, you can't, like, my, the one that I'm using for this, yeah, the keyboard, you can get through it, but my other one, you can't, I mean, it's interesting because I have all different ears of computers in my house. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, yeah, me too. [SPEAKER_05]: I've started an old tower. [SPEAKER_05]: You can take the side off and you can blow it out that way too.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And no, I didn't mean it like, you over there. [SPEAKER_05]: Stop laughing and I saw I blew it out. [SPEAKER_05]: It was not like that. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not like that. [SPEAKER_05]: You got to watch your worms around some people Speaking of which we were talking about that in the break by the way, so there is there was this other internet thing The one internet thing you were talking about the woman who confirmed of the guy who made the comment.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah [SPEAKER_05]: I do have to admit a she was a black woman and this just for the proves to me do not ask with black woman. [SPEAKER_05]: They would walk your ass telling you it's truth we asked friends low they will they will agree be like hmm which we should get them in here sometime man you know this month or or first of the year something like that definitely for a little back here in the mark but um second thing is if some people say stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I get the people listening to us. [SPEAKER_05]: They're in all corners of the US and around the world when there wasn't us here in the bar talking. [SPEAKER_05]: Same thing, when you're on Substack, hangin' out with whoever, people are like, hey, BDD says something, and I didn't necessarily like it, and I get that, that's fine. [SPEAKER_05]: But there are certain people on certain ways.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's an old phrase in my dad used to say, I tell somebody to go to hell in such a way they look forward to the trip. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to hell, you know. [SPEAKER_05]: You can tell somebody that. [SPEAKER_05]: You can be that nice and that's fine. [SPEAKER_05]: Or you can say you and use the N word and the R word and whatever other slurs and things that you want to use.

[SPEAKER_05]: But it's also the fact that you've used that out of the public and people can track you down and Like that woman did and said, you know, you need to learn to apologize and you need to learn to behave and I I am I'm somewhat okay with it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want you know, I think it's it's risking a dangerous confrontation But I also am okay with the fact that it's now out there and the idea that these people who go oh, yeah Well, I can go up and call your mom [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't have anything that's done to me about it. [SPEAKER_05]: And then you go, well, you know, where was this black one the other day, where somebody did that half of the thing? [SPEAKER_05]: And she had to find this guy and his account there.

[SPEAKER_05]: So you may want to just, you know, curb your fingers back and put your sharp tongue back in your mouth a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: Be a little bit of a little bit of my initial reaction to that was I laughed. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a thought it was funny, especially since when she when she embarked on that mission, she only had 16,000 followers. [SPEAKER_01]: But after she posted the video of her confrontation, she quickly gained 100,000 followers.

[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, we didn't gaze. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, who do I need to bother? [SPEAKER_01]: No, you're too nice for that, Jody. [SPEAKER_01]: The drawback to that is, A, you know, that could have turned out very recently. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, her. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm saying. [SPEAKER_01]: And number two, what kind of precedent does this sort of thing set?

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, now is our people looking to make, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: make a celebrity, a minus celebrity of themselves, and now go and find out where someone else lives. [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I say plenty of things online that people disagree with and don't like. [SPEAKER_01]: How many people are gonna come and pay me a visit and want me to read some apology on you? [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's, it's how you say it, though.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not just putting the right emphasis on the rights of the law, another phrase, my dad always used to use. [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's, it's how you say it. [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously the the comment that he made to that woman was out of line. [SPEAKER_05]: Otherwise, she wouldn't have gotten pissed off and driven three hours. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's that's the idea of there. [SPEAKER_05]: There are certain things online.

[SPEAKER_05]: I know that there are people, especially in the mainstream media. [SPEAKER_05]: The old guard media, who liked to kind of be able to diss and ignore this. [SPEAKER_05]: None of this crap or new media matters. [SPEAKER_05]: None of the social media stuff matters. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not real. [SPEAKER_05]: know it's real. [SPEAKER_05]: It is just as real of any other thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's as real as the old party lines on your phones or back in the day the broad sheets that we used in this country. [SPEAKER_05]: It's just as real as any of those. [SPEAKER_05]: But you need to know how to behave and there are a lot of people out there who think that because we happen to have somebody in the White House who is a monster And a racist and a rapist. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you can you replace the pee in the sea. [SPEAKER_05]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_05]: And a bigot and Classists and a general a whole that that it allows them to also be given that you know [SPEAKER_01]: Don't, don't be talking to her too! [SPEAKER_01]: Permission to be there worse selves. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And guess what? [SPEAKER_01]: Ain't no permission for that. [SPEAKER_09]: Now you were talking about the cinnabon person. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know that story. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that was a whole other thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, tell, tell Jodie this one. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there was a Somalian couple. [SPEAKER_01]: And suddenly now, Somalians are all over the news, ever since Donald Trump targeted them last week during his cabinet meeting and made it seem as though they're the second coming of the, they're eating the cats and the dogs, et cetera. [SPEAKER_01]: They walked into a cinema and the worker at the cinema made a comment about the woman's hijab.

[SPEAKER_01]: She was wearing a Muslim garb and it was negative. [SPEAKER_01]: So they turned on their video recorder on their phone and this is where you know, this woman decided to go off and start calling them. [SPEAKER_01]: and word and the way she said it, it was like she was so comfortable. [SPEAKER_01]: You can you can see some people kind of say that and they blurred it out and you know like they said it because they were angry and probably they don't.

[SPEAKER_01]: She said it like, you know, she says past assault, you know, it rolled off her tongue so easily and she said, Yeah, that's right. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a racist and you are both inwards and then she, [SPEAKER_01]: gave them a double middle finger. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: It's cold and invited them to suck her blank. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. [SPEAKER_01]: And of course in a course in a bond with Ieleda. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But then the arm pit of America decided to not give this woman $90,000 on a give send go fundraiser, which for those people who don't know give send go is basically the Nazi right wing version of go fund me. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Because they have to have their whole alternative. [SPEAKER_05]: They have their own alternative donation platforms.

[SPEAKER_05]: They have their whole alternative campaign funding platforms, some of them are public insider. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they have a whole other world. [SPEAKER_05]: Literally, if you are a nut job on the right, you can live in your entire world and never have to deal with a normal person.

[SPEAKER_05]: give your own banks, you have your own social media, you have your own quantum quote, mainstream media, you have your own funding mechanism because the government isn't helping you out as they should be, you have all of these things at the rest of us go, okay, most of us and most of us are on these other platforms. [SPEAKER_05]: Don't know, they literally have been able to wall themselves off.

[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of right wing billionaires, and speaking of right wing billionaires, Elon Musk is amplifying a narrative that people on the right are trying to frame, and this is narrative is that white people are under attack. [SPEAKER_01]: by black people. [SPEAKER_01]: What? [SPEAKER_01]: He's. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's me. [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. [SPEAKER_05]: He's South Africa.

[SPEAKER_05]: We all know that Elon is, you know, racist because that's Elon. [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's I see it. [SPEAKER_01]: I personally I see it as a distraction. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys have you probably have already seen that meme where there's billionaire sitting at a table and he's got a plate of [SPEAKER_01]: pile of cookies in front of him, he tells the white, blue collar worker be careful mate that immigrant wants your cookie. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: The worker only has one cookie, the billionaire has a ton of cookies and the immigrant has none. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: See you in that one before and have his vitreal. [SPEAKER_01]: That's true. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, it basically just trying to deflect attention from what the real problem is. [SPEAKER_01]: And the real problem is the billion, the millionaires and the billionaires.

[SPEAKER_02]: Nice. [SPEAKER_05]: That was well-plated. [SPEAKER_05]: That was a nice, uh, um, mimic, uh, set of the same thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: But now that, look, you know, we all, all of this kind of goes back to the fact that we need to be, we need to get a government in here that works for all of us, that works for everybody. [SPEAKER_05]: And set down rules and make sure the things are going the way they're supposed to be.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, by the way, along ones, the things not going to be supposed to be. [SPEAKER_05]: There's another instructor removed in Oklahoma. [SPEAKER_05]: We've got to see if I've still went to a reach parker yet. [SPEAKER_05]: But I get a reach part reach out to Parker and see that whole ridiculous story. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we'll tell you about it in the after hours. [SPEAKER_05]: You want to hang out about that because it's okay. [SPEAKER_05]: And we will tell you.

[SPEAKER_05]: We will tell you about this. [SPEAKER_05]: For those of you who you remember, we had it last week here in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_05]: We talked about it.

[SPEAKER_05]: you know if you're subscribed you get it every day you just go look and read it and be like hey wait you had it last week so there you go for those of you who haven't heard it yet we will talk to BDD here in the after hours so thank you to everybody on our great radio affiliates who have been hanging out with us here for two hours we will be hanging out tomorrow hopefully and make sure if they get their their phones and everything in gear we will have Charlie Pierce and Malcolm Man's hanging out with us tomorrow so uh

[SPEAKER_05]: Look, dude, you got to do is Monday nights it is cold out there. [SPEAKER_05]: So for God's sake, most of the country, about two thirds of the country, Monday, I asked up as you had at the door. [SPEAKER_09]: So you don't want to know how warm it is here. [SPEAKER_05]: I know the California end of the bar is nice, which is one of the most of the children. [SPEAKER_09]: It's 80 degrees right now. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, for the rest of you, come on over to the after hours.

[SPEAKER_05]: We'll see you tomorrow night here at the politics bar.