EPISODE 174 - BUBBA HO-TEP AND ARMY OF DARKNESS

The Podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing.

I am the devil, and I am here to do the devil's work. I saw this when I come. And be one of us.

Hello and welcome to The Podcast on Haunted Hill, episode 174, my name is Gav.

My name is Dan. We are 174, we know you wanted more.

Four to the floor, hardcore.

You know the score.

Yeah, anyway, me and Dan's rave podcast, 90s rave, is kicking off today. We're starting with the prodigy, we're gonna talk about the prodigy.

Get your whistles out.

Get some hardcore going, some white gloves.

Take some ecstasy.

I was never into rave, actually. I never went to a rave or a free party or any of that sort of stuff. Did you?

I'm from Bristol.

I'm sure there's many a warehouse party.

We invented free parties in Bristol under the Suspension Bridge in Random Fields. I've been to a few. Obviously, as our listeners will know, I'm a hip hop head, much like you. But I did dabble in rave, certainly between sort of 16 and 18 when I left school. Because you couldn't go to a hip hop event really back then, but you could go to a rave. And I think some of the rave music was alright back then as well.

Oh, I don't mind. I don't mind to.

But we're not here to talk about rave, are we Gav?

No, not at all. I used to go to the Sausage Fest hip hop. Basically, there'd be a little hip hop event somewhere in a side room of a pub. That's always where it was. It was just full of men with one token woman. And you just feel so sorry for that poor lady. And it's just all men, Sausage Fest, because that's all hip hop was. That was it.

Yeah. Well, the last time I went to a hip hop gig with you was House Of Pain.

That was amazing.

And Danny Boy got the shits, so he didn't perform. So it was just Everlast and DJ Lethal, which is fine.

I was happy with that because he did a lot of his solo stuff.

And talking of hip hop, just very quickly, Onyx were in Bristol last month.

Oh, yeah.

And KRS-One is in Bristol in the next month or so. And The Wutane Clan, they're all coming to my city.

Yeah. I actually saw Onyx. Oh, Deadbolts that you see this weekend as well. They're a comic festival. I actually thought I'm going to listen to Onyx back the fuck up. So I put the album on Spotify while I was driving along. But no, I listened and I was like, next track, next track, the first, Slam, that's all right.

Slam is the best song on the album.

And when it comes out, you're like, it's not really, they're just.

I really like that album, and it's one of the few I kept because I'm going through my hip hop albums and been in anything that. Yeah. I don't.

It's all right. There's a few, OK, but it's nothing.

It's a lot of N words and a lot of women hating.

Well, unfortunately, it's a day in the era we live in now. We can't just go back and listen to those songs. You're like, oh, because my kids have been in the car going, don't like the songs that you listen to, especially the like.

Yeah, I just imagine my kids picking up some CDs and going, Dad, what's what's this NWA? Dad, what's this onyx back the fuck up?

NWA, NWA. Oh, no, I was going to say the fuck the police stuff. So absolutely fine. I don't mind my kids hearing that shit. There's a lot of other rapist stuff, but it is the other stuff.

Anyway, anyway, enough of that.

We're a horror podcast. I hope everyone's safe in the world and everybody's dandy and happy and gay.

And if this is your if you're a regular listener, welcome back. If you're new to the podcast, welcome friend. Welcome friend. And if you just pop along now and again, side side up down, just pop in the side entrance. Um, yes, this episode is.

Groovy, baby.

It is groovy. We don't do it. It's not an Austin Powers special. That would be good. We're doing the Austin Powers trilogy.

What if Mike Myers, actually, we could see now with the AI, what if we could actually put Mike Myers in as Ash and Evil Dead movies?

What if we could put Mike Myers as Michael Myers?

No, no, no, I just want him doing groovy, baby. That's the only line to it.

Yeah, we're not doing Austin Powers. We are doing something we don't do very often, an actor special.

Yeah.

And as you'll know from groovy, it's the horror icon himself, Mr. Big Old Chin, Mr. Bruce Campbell, Bruce Lorne Campbell. That's the full name.

Yeah, Bruce Campbell. Bruce is an ambassador to B-movie horror. He really is, isn't he? It's really funny, though, because I watched him in Army Of Darkness. He's quite a chiseled, handsome, traditionally handsome character. And you can see how he could lead a movie, but I guess not enough to lead an A-movie, because he never did the big movie. I was really disappointed when they did that. Hi, my name is Bruce. I was like, great. This could be JVCD, where it's the actor playing themselves.

I really enjoyed it.

Really? Oh, God. It was just like...

It's been years since I watched it.

It was just almost like a parody of himself. It was just him just doing that. It's like, oh, I just wanted you to break that mold.

Well, we'll talk about Bruce in more depth. We'll get in deep with Bruce later when we go through into his back catalogue. We'll get deep into him then.

It's a new section, deep with Bruce.

But before we talk about Bruce Campbell, oh, I should also mention we picked two of his movies to watch and review. We're going to be covering the classic and the only original Evil Dead movie we haven't covered in 11 years. We're going to be covering Army Of Darkness from 1992. Possibly his comic masterpiece, some might say. Certainly the first sort of leading man film, probably his only leading man film really, where he's really sort of leading a big budget movie.

It's quite epic, though, in scale, and it comes across as quite a big film.

Yeah, Harry Housen all the way through. And we'll be also covering, oh, thank you very much, Bubba Holtep.

Yeah, Bubba Holtep, which is really interesting. I think he fits the role really well.

I went to see that in the cinema and I was like, you telling me Bruce Campbell plays Elvis in a horror film? I'm there. It was years since I watched it.

Yeah, but and not just that, it's the concept as well.

Yeah.

It's brilliant. It's such a great concept. I watched it again this time, though. I know we're not starting a review now, but watched it again this time. I didn't feel it was as good as when I first watched it.

Certainly a very unique movie, though, and showcases Bruce's range. Yeah. And the fact that he just quite literally, unfortunately, throws himself or Sam Raimi, throws him into everything and anything that he does. But we'll get into Bruce, like we said, but that's what we're covering. Bubba Ho Tap, Army Of Darkness, aka The Evil Dead 3. In the meantime, let's talk about what we've been watching, what we've been doing, what we haven't been doing. What the fuck's going on, Gav?

I saw on Facebook, you know, because for a while I was feeding Hungry with Blu-rays.

Oh, yeah. You might need to explain that to our listeners.

Sounds weird. For a little while, I was just picking up, ridiculously, like, at a time, like 300 or so Blu-rays at a time in a box for, like, next to nothing, like next to no money at all, just randomly. I'll go along and buy these. And this woman's like, yes, my husband died here. Take all these movies for 25 pound, like boxes and boxes and boxes of like HD, still books and just all this massive collection. What the fuck? You know, I felt so bad.

But it goes to a good home.

Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. I've, you know, I've absorbed quite a few of them. And yeah, so I did that for a little while. And then of some reason, some guy was the ones I didn't want. Some guy in from Hungary would be buying the movies off me in bulk, Blu-rays in bulk, and then take them, drive them over the border to Hungary and stuff to distribute. And we did it a couple of times. So I was distributing Hungary of Blu-rays. It's really fucking weird.

But that's Windsor.

Seems to be the case. Not all of them though. I'm not just going to talk about that. But I'm going to talk about the films. So I took Sarah just bags and bags of DVDs. I was like, choose your films you want to watch this weekend. So we started the day off early, I think, with The Tower Of Evil. Do you know The Tower Of Evil?

I've heard of it.

It's a British movie. It's got a dude on it. You know the dude from The Confessions Of A Baby-Sitter? No, Confessions Of A Plumber.

A driver, window cleaner, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's in it, but his voice was dubbed over. But this is about witchcraft, but on an island. It's a British movie from the 70s. Decent, worth watching, I'm going to say. I feel like I'm doing a YouTube channel right now.

Weird connection there, because when I was younger, I recorded American Werewolf in London off of Channel 4. And I just went to bed, pressed record. I didn't set it up to stop. And in the morning, when I was watching the movie, watched it, and then afterwards, it had recorded the next thing that was on.

Hang on, sorry to interrupt. Wasn't that the worst, though, when you're like, oh cool, wonder what this is, and you start watching something, then the tape stops because it ran out. That's the worst.

I had about an hour of Confessions Of A Window Cleaner. So I've only ever seen the first hour of it.

So you just had like boobs, 70s boobs.

It's like a Cario movie, but with a little bit more boobs.

It's a little bit more raunchy. It's more of a late night thing. Anyway, after that, we did this, which was fucking brilliant.

Yeah, I love slugs.

You've seen slugs?

Yeah, I love slugs.

Loads of gore. That was really good. We did do that, Emanuel and The Last Cannibals.

Which I, off count, off hour, I told you that I really, for the first time ever, watched myself about three or four weeks ago. Loads of sex, loads of cannibals.

It's just bonking, bonking, bonking. Then there's just loads of gore.

What more do you want?

I know, I know. Did also did, that one I told you I was watching as well, New York Ripper. I started watching that again with the Donald Duck quacking away killer. Did do this.

Isn't that Tom Savini? Is he something to do with that? Maybe not.

No, you're thinking of the other film he did. He blows a girl's head off.

Prowler, I'm thinking of Prowler.

He did Prowler as well. There's another one. No, there's another one he did as well. Anyway, no, but it was Lucio Fulci as loads, of course, slicing the razor blades, slicing through the nipple.

Yeah.

Which is, you know, that sort of stuff. Did another movie. This is a really interesting movie with Udo Kier. Love Udo. And Linda Hayden, who was Angel From Blood On Satan's Claw. This is the only British movie, it's called Expose. The only British film which was in the UK BBFC band list of the 1980s. Everything else was European and American. And this is kind of like straw dogs in a way. Udo Kier is a writer and he's in a, and he basically needs someone to narrate to.

Yep, fantastic.

And it's just loads of that. And then she does get raped in the field by a couple of farmers. Don't we see it? But all of a sudden, somehow, she managed to pull a shotgun around and shoot them and kill them. But we don't see that either. And the guy who was shot, they just must have been in the field for days, just bleeding out. But right at the end of it, he somehow manages to come along and kill her because she's having a fight right at the end of the film in the same field.

No, no, I probably never would watch that.

No, I was just at a chariot shop one time and just picked it up. So I was like, yeah, fuck it, definitely. And it was worth a watch. It's the same film, but yeah, you know.

Izzy Boy, you've been watching a lot.

Yeah. Funny enough, I got married to get away to see Sarah, which is very rare to see my girlfriend, but I'm married to get away to see her. And when we get together, we have a little holiday of just watching films. So we spent Saturday and Sunday just banging out some movies. And you, what have you been up to?

Well, before we talk about that, we should all take three seconds of silence for Val Kilmer. There we go, because sadly, Val Kilmer passed away a few days ago as we record. A legend, you know, he's been in. He's been in a lot. He's a very, very versatile actor. You know, whether you like the doors. I personally, I love Willow. That's one of my favorite roles for him, but also Top Gun, you know, he was Batman. He's done it all, really.

Funny enough, I liked him. I liked his kind of way of Jim Morrison, but I didn't actually like the movie because all of a sudden, Jim Morrison just made Jim Morrison look like and Kilmer did make Jim Morrison look like a dick and he wasn't. So, yeah, apart from that. But yeah, I'll tell you what I liked him in recently, which I watched him in, is Heat.

Yeah, he was in Heat as well. He was he was in The Island Of Doctor Moreau as well. Very strange story around that. And in fact, I watched, I think, last year or the year before, I watched the documentary he's made on his own life because he had cancer. He's battling cancer for a few years. Yeah. And he made a documentary called Vow, where he just he shot it all himself. And his son Jack edited it together and stuff. And yeah, so I might actually rewatch that now that he's passed.

It's more sci-fi, I suppose.

He's probably done a few bits and bobs along the way, but.

I'll have a look.

He's a very he's just one of those actors, Vow, Kilmer and the name, you know, just sort of it's a Hollywood name.

It was. Yeah, Vow, Kilmer was just like. He's just the same as your Brad Pitt or whatever, isn't it? So that sort of name and you associate with Hollywood movies.

He was a star as well because he was so weird and there was loads of strange stories connected to him. And obviously he's battled different addictions over the years and stuff. But yeah, so rest in peace to Vow Kilmer. We may end up covering one of his movies or a couple of his movies at some point in the future. You never know. Talking of his son, Jack, is a quick story about my son, Jack.

His first film was Top Secret.

Yeah, that's right.

How did you go for that as your first film?

A lot of people like that.

Yeah, but your first film was quite like, you know.

Yeah.

So I didn't have any other parts before, just went bang, straight in there. Sounds pretty good. Must have seen something in him because like, you know, sorry, but like two years after his first film, he's in Top Gun with Tom Cruise. So he did well.

And then he was in Top Gun again with Tom Cruise.

Because I expect, because, you know, you're not expect, but quite often you see with actors that start up doing stuff, a lot of TV, whatever. And then that's when they do like, Brad Pitt did a horror movie, high school, whatever it's called, high school horror or something.

Well, he was also in it. Brad Pitt was also in an episode of Freddy's Nightmares.

Well, exactly. That's what you sort of say. You know, work the way up, but it fell pretty much bang straight in there. So, yeah, didn't do that route and it's got no horror, really.

But as I mentioned to Son Jack, and I just want to segue, my son Jack is three years old. And I was playing bingo with him the other day. They've got a little insect bingo card game that I play with them, helps them with their numbers. Yeah, both of them. This is Jack and Edith, obviously, for anyone who doesn't know, I've got twins. And all of a sudden, Jack said to me, I said, you won that round, well done. He went, yeah, I did, you fucking poop.

Wow.

I said, I was stunned in silence for a few seconds.

And I said, it's weird when it comes out your kids' mouth.

What did you just say? He said, you fucking poop. And I just looked at him, gave him a look. Edith started crying. It must have been a stern look. And I said, you didn't, you never say that word. I don't, where did you hear that? And he said, he didn't tell me initially. And he obviously didn't know even it was a swear word.

Yeah, of course.

And then anyway, I said, right, well, let's move on, Jack. You rolled the dice because you won that last round. So you go first. He goes, yeah, fucking sake. And went straight into another one. And I said, whoa, right, we need to talk now. And he told me it was a boy at nursery who said it. So I told nursery and they said, all right, we'll keep an eye out for that. And he's not said it since. And he's really upset, actually, now. You know, he always says, I've been a good boy.

So he's got it drilled into him now.

He's got it drilled into him now, that there's certain words he cannot say.

Charlie came back from the playground when they were jamsming a long time ago and they were all over the road from us, where all the bad kids were, if you remember. Came back and just said, Where's your fucking daddy? To me.

Wow. The funny thing about what Jack said is, the first thing he said was he called me a fucking poop. It could have been anything, but he just chucked in a three year old word straight at the end of it.

Yeah, I like that.

Which is cute. So I just thought I'd mention that story because it's quite funny. There's a bit of other news as well, but we'll get into that after. I'll tell you quickly what I've watched. I had insomnia, so I watched a couple of movies at like 2 a.m. Yeah. I have had insomnia on and off over the last 20 years, but it's normally my body does this weird reset where one night a month, usually, I just won't sleep for 24 hours, and then the next night I sleep and I'm fine, it's all back to normal.

I've never seen it, actually.

Really good. And again, bear with me, because I watched this at like 2am. I'm like a Tuesday night, but it was really good fun, really gory. Steven Yeun is incredible in it. And it's just like a really fun black comedy. It's a little bit 28 days later in that there's a virus. Okay. That gives people red eyes. Yeah, I should watch stuff like that. It makes them want to just like get angry, but it's really cool. Really fun. So I watched Mayhem.

Yeah, great movie.

Yeah, I've been wanting to watch this for a while. It wasn't quite as good as I again, these things get overhyped if you don't jump on them immediately. Sometimes you're like for me anyway, I'm like, it wasn't quite but I still enjoyed it. It just wasn't I wanted a bit more from it, but that's not a bad thing. But it was very good, very gory and who doesn't love Nazis getting exploded, stabbed, beaten up. It's fucking great.

I enjoyed watching it again recently. Yeah, I found it in a charity shop on DVD randomly. Yeah, it's great. Great.

I'll definitely watch it again. The guy and it was great. Everything about it was good. It was great film. I just wanted a little bit more, but it's fun. And the only other movie I really want to talk about is taking you all the way back now to 1984, Linda Blair, when she was in her Coke, you know, frenzy phase. And they tried to pass her off as an action heroine, action hero in the film Savage Streets.

Okay. I've seen the cover, I've not seen it.

So it's a fun movie. I was talking to our buddy RJ about this. You've got to go into it with that 80s mindset of, this is going to be a bit mental. It's going to have a pretty synthy rock soundtrack. All the kids at the high school are 40 year olds playing 18 year olds. We've seen all that before. Basically, Linda Blair is like a girl who's on the cusp of being a bad girl, but she's a good girl. She's got a deaf sister and this gang of guys rape her deaf sister. It's quite a graph.

Oh, I thought she was saying, it's a shame you're not double jointed. Why do you say that? Because then this wouldn't hurt. And then, you know.

There is also a lot of naked Linda Blair in it, which is very odd. She's in the bath for about 10 minutes just with her boobs floating on the water while she's smoking a cigarette, thinking about how she's going to take these guys out. But I had a lot of fun with it. It's a really fun film, Savage Streets from 1984.

Boob fun for Dan. It was like me at the weekend with Sarah, got to point with her and I was like, I'm no, I got to this point with her and I was like, I've just seen so many boobs this weekend. It's just been ridiculous. It's just been so many in these films. I don't, I promise you, I didn't intend bringing so many tits with me, but seems to be the case. Yeah, with Insomnia, yeah, it's a bastard.

Which I must say for our listeners, I recommend till I've been taking for two months now, and it calms your mind. Yeah, I just feel it's hard to explain why I feel different and better, but I do.

Yeah, like I said, I don't have anxiety anymore. Really, it tries to creep through, funny enough, but it just doesn't go. It's like a blocker. It's really weird. Anyway, but I had it recently. It got to the point by the third day, I was coming back from Serra. The last time I was at Serra, I just couldn't sleep. I was there for whatever reason. By the third day, I came back and I was just shopping. I was in that state of like, it's not when you got a kid and you're up, but that's not tired.

Yes. Well, very quickly, let's talk about two more things. Very exciting news related to one of our movies, Bubba Ho Tap, which is about an Egyptian spirit. There's been a lot of exciting news in Egypt.

What's that?

Very quickly to talk on it. Have you not seen what they found under the Great Pyramid, Gav?

No, I should do, because I fucking love pyramids. This must be very, very, very recent.

This is the last two, three weeks, and more news is coming out every day about it. Oh my God, this is a rabbit hole you need to get down, my friend.

Before we get into this, because the theory has always been a certain thing, then you got Graham Hancock comes along with a lot of other theories about certain chambers and things. Are you telling me that they've discovered something which puts those original fuckers and just will not have it? I will not have it.

So they've used a very advanced form of sonar.

Excellent.

To see what's underneath the Great Pyramid.

Because stop stopping you again very quickly. They were a lot of times you're not allowed to do that stuff and they weren't before because they're like, no, you're not going to let you do that because it's against religious beliefs. Using things like that.

Okay, they have found what looks like. Changes to eight, eight tunnels. Yeah, going down. Each of them is two Eiffel Towers tall. Going down, going around each of these is a spiral structure that is some kind of staircase underneath. Yeah, or pipe system. And then at the bottom of that, there are, I believe, there was four big rooms, giant rooms, which they believe might be this library, this ancient library of ancient technology and stuff. This stuff they've talked about.

This blows everything.

And then, hang on, gets better. And those four giant rooms, which I don't forget, two Eiffel Towers deep, underneath the Great Pyramid. Those four rooms, then, leading off of them, is a series, a network of tunnels, which is two kilometers long, which connects all of the pyramids and the Sphinx. So we're talking, hundreds of hundreds of feet and meters below the earth.

They've dug down.

And obviously, they haven't dug down. They've used sonar.

No, no, no, no, no. When they originally built. The Egyptians either dug down or if they were like that and the sand and everything. And the planet is just, you know what I'm saying?

So they're trying to figure out, A, if this is legit, because they're only using one type of sonar and people are going nuts. Egyptian tourist board are going crazy about it because people are now wanting to go there and be Indiana Jones. But there's a couple of theories. There's a couple of theories.

Because, of course, then it goes away. All your bloody theories of, well, they used, obviously, sticks to put these blocks up here. No, they've built all that down there. It's not possible. You're not getting the fucking people to do it.

The tip of the iceberg, the pyramid is the tip of the iceberg.

I hope this isn't, this is real. I hope it gets more sonar too.

The general people have been chatting about it.

Oh, I see. Yeah, I'm not getting political. I don't stop listening to Joe Rogan. Didn't want to, because there's a lot of stuff when he talks about fitness and when he talks about aliens and pyramids. I like his theories, but unfortunately, he's just gone to right wing and too many people are telling me to stop listening to him, who are more intelligent than me.

He loves Donald Trump.

Yeah, I don't want to get into it.

I know, I feel the same. But anyway, that was Egypt. And then the last thing to talk about is our very own Deadbolt Films. Couple of bits of news.

Loads.

Yeah, a few bits of news. Firstly, Amanda is going to be dropping in May.

So I think it's 18. You can actually go to our YouTube channel now, deadboltfilms.com and-

Is it April or May? Did I get that wrong?

No, April, April. So in the next couple of weeks, it's out. So you can go there now and just do a thing. So you're waiting for it to come on. That'd be great. That makes us look better.

I was very pleased to watch it two weeks ago. Thoroughly enjoyed it, considering I am somewhat involved in it and been involved in the process over the many, many years it's taken and evolved. I was really impressed and pleased with it and proud of everything that we've done.

I'm quite happy with how random the films come out. And I could definitely say now because he's in it. Nicholas Vince, who's a teeth checker from the original Hellraiser movie and obviously plays a demon in the Hellraiser movie, is actually playing a demonologist in this, Amanda. So do check that out because he has a great little performance.

Yeah. And can we link him in to another bit of news? Are we allowed to talk about that?

Yeah, it hasn't been done yet, but he's going to hopefully be writing for our division of comics, writing one for Eldritch. No, not Eldritch, he's going to be writing one for Abyssal Albion, one of those series of comics. He's going to start writing some stories for us.

So we've got the Teeth Chatterer involved.

Yeah, because he's fantastic. Yeah, he's written some of the Hillraiser comics for Marvel.

He's really into it.

So he's doing average really good. Speaking of which, in the next couple of weeks, the date, the weekend we premiere Amanda, we're also at Horrified, which is a convention in Farnborough in England, in Hampshire. If you're around, come down to it. Loads of people are going, loads of people from Hillraiser. Robert England's there. Lance Henriksen, I think, is there. Today I saw, you know, Sam from Trick or Treat with a little bag of his head in his lolly.

Oh, great. No one's going to know who he is.

So we're going there. It's Deadbolt Films. So we're actually there with a table and we're just pimping ourselves, basically. It's a filmmaking group and selling comics as well. So do come down and check us out because there'll be loads of horror shit there. There's loads of like 140 or so stalls. That's really fucking cool. And there's talks and panels and we're there all weekend. So please come down. That's in less than two weeks time in Farnborough in Hampshire. So come down horrified.

You never know. Even if you just get a hug and a kiss.

Exactly. And Mark's going to be wearing a Stormtrooper costume from Sanctuary Moon. Walk around like that, photo opportunities, etc. Yeah, so we're really busy at Devolt Films. We've got loads of shit on the go. And there's no point, I can't say it too much, but we're prepping something major big for next year, possibly if it happens, but there's no point saying this shit because it doesn't want to happen. And then we're prepping another thing for this year, which we can make happen.

Devolt Films, baby.

But you never know. Next year, there's a chance I might become a professional filmmaker and have to give everything else up.

Everything.

I'll try and do the podcast still, apart from when I'm making films.

Please. Anyway, there we go. So that's what we've been up to, what we've been watching, who's died and what's below Egypt. Al Kilmer is not below Egypt.

And I saw massive amounts of boobs this weekend with Sarah. Sarah watched them too. It wasn't just me. It wasn't me being weird and creepy.

I saw a lot of erect penises, which I wasn't expecting in Brandon Cronenberg's Possessor, which I didn't mention because I only watched an hour of it. I've got half an hour left to watch of it. But that guy manages to get erect penises in a lot of his films. If I remember rightly, there was one in Infinity Pool as well. I think I was saying this to you before we recorded. I don't know how he gets away with it, but you must just say, do you know who my dad is? Come on, let me put this.

I guess, I don't know.

Because his dad never put hardcocks in his films.

I did see quite a lot of fingering in the movies over the weekend as well. I said, Sarah, that's actually quite graphic. I'm just sitting there watching a movie thinking, I didn't know this was going to be in there.

Apologies.

Bruce Campbell.

Bruce Campbell.

The Chin.

The Chin. I've got about three of his books.

Yeah, that's right. Because one of them is The Chin, I think. Actually, I've got one of his books.

Yeah. If Chins Could Kill is his main one. And then I've got The Man With Screaming Brain, which is a story of one of his movies. And I've got another one of his. Oh, Make Love The Bruce Campbell Way. That's the other one I've got as well. He is a funny guy. Anyone who knows horror films is a big Bruce Campbell fan. I don't know anybody who isn't a Bruce Campbell fan.

He can't not be. He's such a lovable, likable person for screen, especially throwing himself around in a slapstick humor.

And he is definitely in everybody's top five horror icons. You know, you've got your Robert Englunds, your Tony George, but you've got to chuck Bruce Campbell in there.

You have to. He's an ambassador. Yeah, absolutely.

But like you said, Gav, he's an ambassador for a certain type of horror, like that low budget.

It's B-movie, slapstick almost.

Throw yourself down the stairs without a stunt man. Just get it done. Yeah. And he's still doing it now, you know, still doing that now. Even with his Evil Dead series that finished a few years back on Netflix. You know, he's still getting beaten up by Sam Raimi. Any time Sam Raimi makes a movie, even in the most recent Doctor Strange movie, he turned up in that and had to punch himself in the face repeatedly.

It's funny, I saw a little video clip of him actually earlier on. And he's just on stage talking about the three Superman films where he had a cameo and he said, Tobey Maguire.

Spider-Man films.

Spider-Man, what did I say? Superman. Spider-Man. And it's like, oh, so you're doing a da-da-da this. And he's like, yeah, then he appears in the second role. And he's like, oh, I guess we can't do a movie without Bruce Campbell. Then he's like, yep, that's it, kid. And then the third one is like, oh, you're here again. Because he didn't know he was turned up on set to do the things. And it's just Bruce Campbell again.

Toby Maguire.

And he said to him, well, that's acting, kid. You know, being different characters.

And he was he was so he played three different small cameos in each of the Sam Raimi slash Toby Maguire Spider-Man films. And he was actually going to be in the fourth one as the villain Mysterio, which Jake Gyllenhaal played in the newer Spider-Man movies. He was going to play Mysterio, and that was going to explain how he'd been in all these other characters, because Mysterio can be anyone he wants because he uses illusions. This is some power like sleeping gas and all this kind of stuff.

And Burn Notice.

Burn Notice.

I've never seen these things.

And a few other bits as well, which we'll get into when we sort of talk through his bio, which we might as well get into now really. So Bruce Campbell, or Bruce Lawn Campbell, as I mentioned. He's born in 1958. He's directed quite a few things. He's produced a hell of a lot of things, and he starred in over 170 movies. Well, he's appeared in, let's not say he's starred, bless him.

Have you seen it?

Yes, I have. It's on my special edition DVD of Evil Dead. And that then got turned into a feature, Evil Dead.

With a few dentists giving them some money.

Yeah, family, friends, dentists and others helped them fund that. It took them about two and a half years to film it. Not quite as long as it took to make Bad Taste, but similarly, you know, a lot of hard work and weekends. But they made Evil Dead, which is what got Sam Raimi put on the map. Bruce Campbell, not only did he star in it, but he had a production credit and is very good at producing, actually. He really knows his stuff.

Endorsed it, definitely.

And it became the most popular movie in the UK four years after it was released. And this is on VHS. So in 1985, it was the most popular rented film in the UK.

It did though. Sam Raimi had to come to court in England about Evil Dead because it got on the BBFC list, the band list, which is the second time we've spoken about that this evening. But and he had to come to court over flight all the way over to just be, yes, that's me on the director's and leave. That was it. So something like that is really ridiculous. It's such a pathetic time. Yeah, it was. Um, not like now is any better.

Two years later, they had so much money from Evil Dead that they made Evil Dead 2, which is kind of a remake almost.

It's got a remake, but they managed to get KMB effects involved. They managed to get the budget to build a cabin in a school gymnasium.

Yeah. And they just did what, you know, what they wanted to really do. On the first one, they just redid it pretty much. And a lot of people prefer Evil Dead 2.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't seen it for a little while. It used to be that film which would come on telling you, but I'd just sit down and watch it wherever it was at, you know.

I think I prefer Evil Dead 2 just because it's funnier, but Evil Dead is still obviously a classic.

Well, the original I look at as a filmmaker, I look at the asphetics and how it was put together, how it was made, taking the camera on a plank of wood just above the water and just skimming it across stuff like that. It's just really cool.

And when you've got Bruce Campbell, who will honestly throw himself into a puddle or do whatever it takes.

You know, it's a great combo, him and him and Bruce, Sam Raimi and Bruce is what it is. If it had been Sam Raimi and another, he'd have made another horror movie, but I think Bruce actually helps it become better as well.

And I do think in some ways, Jim Carrey stole some of his comic facial expressions from, maybe not stole, but there's a similarity because sometimes he's very slapstick in the faces he pulls.

Yeah, Jim Carrey has been doing it since he was a teenager and stuff, but it might be in the movies that he was watching around that time and you get inspiration from everywhere. So yeah, definitely.

And just on a quick side note, Ash Williams, the character from the Evil Dead Trilogy, is now his own thing. He's in Marvel Zombies.

Ash is up there with Freddy and stuff as well.

You've got comic books, which is Ash versus Freddy versus Jason.

Again, another thing for that, though, is the chainsaw on the arm.

Yeah, wow.

Just that, a shotgun in one arm and a chainsaw in the other arm is just, yeah.

And I remember we've talked about this when we covered Evil Dead too many years ago, but it's one of those things on the playground where people say, I saw a film where a guy chops his own hand off and replaces it with a chainsaw, and you're like, yeah, okay, I need to see this immediately. He was also in Dark Man with Liam Neeson. It's just a very small cameo because Rayme directed that.

Maniac Cop is such a great movie. I need to see the second one. I don't remember it at all.

Obviously, he was in My Name Is Bruce, as you mentioned, where he plays a weird version of himself, which is cool. He was in, weirdly enough, in a Jim Carrey movie called The Majestic, which is one of my favorite Jim Carrey movies. Have you seen that?

No, I've never seen it.

Where he bangs his head and he forgets who he is, and Jim Carrey, and he finds himself in this very small town, where it's a bit like The Truman Show, where everybody's very, very sweet and kind and nice, and he just fits nicely into this town. He buys a cinema called The Majestic, does it up and starts playing old films. And one of the films he plays stars Bruce Campbell as like a bit of a sort of Errol Flynn's washbuckler.

It's funny you said that. Literally last night I was with Daisy and I typed in Jim Carrey on Amazon. I said, these are all my shows. I love Jim Carrey. And I was like, right, let's watch Jim Carrey. And I was going through different films. That's so funny to tell you that.

Yeah. He showed up in Escape From LA, John Garbage's sequel. He was in Sky High with Kurt Russell, another link there where they played superhero teachers in a school for superhero kids, which is a fun movie. And he's done a lot of voiceover work. Cloudy With The Chance Of The Meatballs, Cars, Cars 2. And he did a weird cameo at the end of Evil Dead, the sort of remake or the reboot. Do you remember at the very after the credits, he just says groovy.

Yeah.

And then television. He's got a huge television career as well. He was in The Adventures Of Briscoe County Junior, which a lot of people absolutely love. Didn't really get shown in the UK much.

No, a lot of us, a lot of this stuff didn't know.

He was on that. He also had a really, you might have watched this, I don't know. I loved the Superman show with Dean Cain and Terry Hatcher. He was in that as a recurring character in that as well. As mentioned earlier, he played Autocluss in Hercules, the TV show which was huge. And Xena, this is a spinoff of that as well.

I've never seen any of these TV shows.

Well, Sam Raimi and Robert Tapper, or Taper and Bruce Campbell were all heavily involved in those two shows. And obviously Bruce Campbell showed up in both of those shows a lot as well. So he's done loads and loads of TV work. Burn Notice, which you mentioned as well. Oh, was he in Fargo as well? Or am I getting that wrong?

No, he's not in Fargo.

I think he was in... Maybe I got that wrong. And then obviously recently, everybody probably will remember that he did three seasons of Ash vs Evil Dead for Netflix or Stars, but it got shown on Netflix, which was a really lovely send off for his character.

How did it end? Because again, I started watching recently and then it kind of dipped out halfway through. For whatever reason, I just kind of lose interest. How does it end in season three?

I cannot remember and I only watched it about two months ago.

See, that's probably why I've never carried on watching the rest of it, because I really enjoy it. I was like, first, this is brilliant right at the beginning, when he's just trying to get laid in the bar and he's just like that sort of character. I was like, this is fucking amazing. And then it just kind of.

It did get a bit boring. Just but it's still a lot of fun and better than a lot of stuff that's out there.

Maybe they should have just done one season of it. Yeah.

Should also mention video games.

Oh god, yes.

I used to have Evil Dead Hail To The King, which was a PlayStation 1 game.

There's a new Evil Dead, like an 8-bit type game for the PlayStation 5, out now. Yeah. And Halloween, I think it is. You buy them both together.

Well, he did Evil Dead Hail To The King for the PlayStation 1. I've got a funny story about that because I've still got that. I took it on my stag do, but we never played it. And the funny story about that is back in the day with the internet was really quite new to a lot of people. My friend Rob that I lived with at the time at work, he prints out the walkthrough for the website. And it was like 200 pages of A4.

Wow.

And over a weekend, we completed it using this walkthrough. It was quite a complex game.

Oh, my God.

He was also, it was all his voice and all his likeness. And he also did Evil Dead, a festival of Boomstick, Evil Dead Regeneration, Evil Dead The Game. So there's a bunch of Evil Dead games as well that he was in, as well as other other stuff that he lends his voice to.

If he didn't have Ash and Evil Dead, probably his bank account would be a little less.

Yeah. Yeah. And then his books, you know, we mentioned If Chins Could Kill, Make Love To Bruce Campbell Way. And then a bunch of other books he's done as well. Yeah. And now there's the Bruce Campbell Horror Film Festival, which started in 2014.

He turned up one year as well.

Yeah. Where they sort of they show Bruce Campbell movies and talk about him. And yeah, he showed up. He showed up a couple of times.

Weird though. He turned up. Oh, it's the Dan Festival. You're like, oh, hi.

Weird. Sam Raimi's been there a few times. Robert Tapper has been there as well. A few other people as well. So yeah, really interesting, weird stuff. He's been married twice and he is an absolute legend. And I guess we'll just talk about some of his more standout films, really. But other than that, then we'll jump straight into Bubba Ho Tep. So we've talked about a lot of these, really, but obviously Evil Dead. I think he was was he in Blood Simple as well, that Coen Brothers movie briefly.

I've had a slight cameo, maybe, I don't know.

Evil Dead 2, Maniac Cop, Intruder, which is a great movie about people stuck in a shop and someone comes in and starts trying to kill them all. It's a great movie. It's a real 80s movie. Might cover it one day. He was in Maniac Cop 2, Dark Man, Wax Work 2, which I'm a big fan of the Wax Work movies. Hutsucker Proxy, which is a more serious role for him. Congo, which is a really underrated movie about giant monkeys with Ron Perlman. The Quick And The Dead, Escape From LA, which is an awful film.

I got it on VHS.

I've got it on the trilogy because they made three of those films, everybody. I've got them on DVD. Obviously, The Majestic, we've mentioned Spider-Man 1, 2, and 3. Bubba Ho-Tet, which we're going to be covering in this episode. Man With Screaming Brain, because he made a lot of really bad B movies, which are enjoyable if you just watch them for Bruce Campbell. My name is Bruce, which we've talked about as well. He showed up at the end of that Evil Dead movie in 2013.

Yeah, I've heard this.

So what we mean by that, dear listeners, is a lot of the times for to create an effect or something in a movie, they'll shoot it backwards and then play it forwards. And that's how they do that. You know, like an arrow going into somebody's chest or whatever it might be. They pull it out and then they'll obviously reverse the footage.

You have to, just very quickly on that, as an editor standpoint, yeah, sometimes you have to go, oh fuck, I'm going to have to cheat this, because it didn't work. So you go, right, I'll go to it going in, like you said, for example, now we're going in, it looks bad going in, okay, so I have to cheat it after coming out and reverse it.

There's a video, a hip hop music video by The Far Side.

Spike Jonze, isn't it?

Called Drop. Yeah, directed by Spike Jonze, which is done backwards. And the group, The Far Side, actually learned their song backwards. So they could mime the words to it, which is incredible. And it's one of my favorite hip hop songs, actually, of all time, but also videos, definitely, because it's so original and strange and gives this crazy effect where their clothes are just flying on to them and stuff like that. Yeah, really cool.

No, he's obviously a very hard working man. Yeah, yeah.

He once officiated a zombie wedding. Of course he did. Yeah, a couple had a zombie themed wedding and he showed up in a red suit and married the couple who were dressed as zombies.

Oh, I'd happily have Bruce Campbell marry me.

His role he's ever had is Army Of Darkness. He got paid $93,000, which is was very big for him in 92.

Yeah, it's not bad money for 92.

It was quite a large chunk of the budget. But the rest of it went on effects.

That's good though, it was fun watching it for this again.

And my last little bit of trivia really about him is, and you might not know this film, but there was a movie in the 90s with Billy Zane called The Phantom.

Yeah.

Yeah, he really tried to get that role. He thought that was going to be his breakout role as a superhero. And Billy Zane got the role over here.

And it doesn't matter if you said someone called Phantom, like what? What you're on about? So yeah, it doesn't matter.

It's got a soft spot in my heart.

Of course it is for you guys.

But yeah, Bruce Campbell, ladies and gentlemen.

Bruce Campbell. All right. Trailer.

Trailer for Bubba Ho Tab.

Let's do it.

How could I have gone from the king of rock and roll to this, old guy in a rest home? You were an Elvis impersonator. You fell off a stage and broke your heel? Who was it? Twenty years ago. That's where they took a piece of my brain. I got a little bag of sand up there now. Jack, President Kennedy was a white man. They dyed me this color. What we have here at Shady Rest is an Egyptian soul sucker of some sort. Some kind of Bubba Ho-tep. You know, a mummy hiding out, feeding on the sleeping.

That sounds as mental as it is. Elvis Presley, still alive in a mental home, teams up with a guy who claims to be a body swapped JFK. Yeah. And throw in the fact that this is directed by none other than Don Coscarelli.

Indeed, it actually sounds like a sort of movie I would take to Sarah's.

For anyone who doesn't know Don Coscarelli, he directed the Phantasm series. I believe he directed all five movies. We covered them all in our Phantasm special many years ago.

Beast Master.

Beast Master as well. John Dies At The End.

He doesn't like Beast Master though.

No, I don't mind it, but again, it was a childhood movie. It's not very good, but it was one I watched when I was a kid. I'd rent it out. Yeah. John Dies At The End was really good. He directed that.

I saw it once. I can't remember the ending though.

Yeah.

That's a joke, Dan.

Well, I'll tell you what happens at the end, Gav. John Dies. A little side note there. When I used to work for a company that dealt with people, I won't say the name of the company, but many years ago, I worked for a company where people would call in with requests for businesses. And one of those businesses was cinemas. And somebody actually said to me, Oh, can you tell me what's showing at my local cinema? And I said, Yeah, I said all the films. I said, I want Titanic. Yeah, they said Titanic.

So what do you mean? What's the synopsis for Titanic? Come on, what do you think happens?

It's ridiculous. Anyway, yeah, this film is everything I wanted it to be. Yeah. And I think it holds up fairly well. It's very, it's unique enough that it holds up fairly well. And it's part horror film, part comedy, but also like very tragic comedy. Do you know what I mean? Because it's like it really takes a close up under the microscope look at old age. Yeah, Tony, what happens to you as you're getting old, particularly to men's genitals as you get old.

Is Flickering Pecker.

I felt a little flicker in the old pecker. I thought, is life in the old boy yet? Thank you very much. It's very strange, but let's get into it.

Do it, do it.

Did you see this in the cinema? I did.

No, no, no, no, I didn't even know it was in the cinema.

Oh, right, okay. I saw this at the cinema. It was probably only really out for a week or something where I live, but yeah, really weird. Really good, good stuff. And a good one to look at for Bruce Campbell because he's under heavy, heavy makeup for the whole movie. Yeah.

He does a great job.

Playing Elvis. Yeah, he does a really good job. They weren't allowed to use any official Elvis Presley songs in this.

That's funny when he's worked with Kurt Russell in because Kurt Russell also played Elvis.

Yeah, and so did Val Kilmer. Don't forget.

Yeah, true, I meant.

Yeah. It's been a few classic actors that have played Elvis. I haven't seen the movie, the Elvis movie. I know you and your mom watched it, didn't you? Yeah, it's good. It's now on Netflix and I keep meaning to watch it because I've heard it's really good. I'm not a massive Elvis fan, but I appreciate, you know, he was a bit of a legend. Also loved his drugs, his women and his triple cheeseburgers as well, apparently. So there we go. So we start off this movie with a description of the title.

Yeah, if you think of The Exorcist at the beginning, obviously it's an actual archaeological side, but that sort of thing. But we're looking at old black and white footage of like an old news report of something. And obviously it's what we're about to get into with the Bubba Ho tip.

Yeah, they found a mummy. They're very excited. And this mummy is going to be studied and brought to America and put in a museum, blah, blah, blah. All of this will tie into poor old Elvis and JFK's adventure. The JFK thing in this just came out of nowhere for me. I absolutely love that. I think it's crazy and brilliant. But we'll get into that. And yeah, we're in an old people's home in a place called Mud Creek in Texas.

And there's quite a lot of the old sort of shining corridor dollies in this.

A lot of good corridor work.

Corridor dollies where you get like in the substance of recent, very popular and like shining. We're at Lord's Asylum. Rob Zombie does it in that too.

And we should probably talk about, I've always thought old people's homes are quite creepy. No offence to many old people, but they are, they are, because people go there to die, sadly.

And is that why you feel like it's creepy?

No, but what I mean by that is in real life, I've been to a few in real life and they're not creepy in real life, but they could be made out to be really creepy. Yeah, easily. And this is a really good premise that there's something going around in old people's homes.

We watched that movie, didn't we, for the patron of that foreign movie?

Oh yeah, old. Yeah, we did.

That was your concept really there, isn't it?

Yeah, because that's similar to this. Sadly, old people do die, especially old people in old people's homes.

Old people die?

Well, you know what I mean. But what's funny is we get a reoccurring scene of these two guys that turn up there every other day to pick up the next dead body and put it in the hearse. And it's just part and parcel for them because it's an old people's home.

It's just a job, isn't it?

But it's a really good way for a serial killer or a Bubba Ho tab to not really get caught out on killing off loads of old people.

Yeah, well, it's like killers of, you know, 1900s and before then, they had field days, didn't they? So I'll just move to this state to this day and get away with it. What are you going to do?

What are you going to do?

Well, then, you know, who gives a shit?

No DNA, no internet.

Yeah, totally.

Crack on.

Yeah.

But we're not condoning that and you will get caught if you try and do that these days.

So yeah, go back in time if you want to be a mass murderer or serial killer.

So we tracked down some corridors and we are shown our hero, Elvis Presley, lying in his bed in the old people's home with another man in the same room in a bed next to him. And he's there's a lot of narration in this, a lot of voiceover and he's talking.

I like a film which gives narration. I do massively appreciate it. And this is really good because you got to think of it as well. Elvis is my voice, you know, it's having that slur, that sort of way, that draw of the voice has Elvis had. So having that as narration just cements it more that it's Elvis. Do you know what I mean?

And he's saying, look at me lying here in this bed, you know. No one would believe I used to be the king of rock and roll. And then he starts talking straight away, starts talking about old age, and then he starts talking about the growth on his dick. And he's got this little growth which he thinks might be cancer.

He's got some dick pus.

Yeah, a bit of pus. And he keeps getting his dick creamed up by a lady, which is just degrading for him. And he says, there's a line, he says, I haven't even had a hard on in years. Nothing works for him. He's very old. He uses a zimmer frame to get around.

And as he's sort of saying, you know, we're getting an idea of his life and there's no sex. Obviously, back in the day, he had been fine. Panties been thrown at him and staged continuously.

He was the king of shwing.

We have a king of shwing for a hostel. But we have a little flashback ready to him describing that and him on stage. And he's like, yeah, yeah, till my hip went out and he sort of just kicks forward and thrusts to his hip and goes and just falls to the floor. And unfortunately, if you don't have muscle, you're not strong. If you only get things like hip injuries and you can't get yourself better, you come into a vicious cycle of being weaker and weaker in hospital. And this is him.

And it's a very dark comedy because while he's talking about the heyday and you see some flashbacks, is the guy in the bed next to him starts having this terrible coughing fit. And he just looks and says, look at this guy, this is my roommate, coughing away. And he's just coughing and coughing and coughing. He says, how did I end up like this? What am I doing here? And then his roommate just dies, sort of falls out and dies.

And he thinks he sees something, though.

He does. He sees little glimpses of there's like a sidewall. I've seen. What was that?

That is the audio recorder falling over. Sorry. I don't know how that happened.

Just check we're still recording.

We're all good, though. So I'm just going to keep that in the show. It's live, ladies and gentlemen.

And that is our first glimpse into these two guys, picking up these two guys who drive the hearse and they come and pick up the old people and pop them in and they've got no respect for them.

Well, it's just a job, though, you can't, you know. Obviously, you should have respect, of course, but I mean, if they're a bit like there, it's just their job.

So they pop that guy in the hearse and that's the first person to die. And it's nighttime.

Well, we have a lot of days flashing past really quickly and it's all symbolizing, obviously, times going on and nothing's happening. It's just a lot of people coming and going real fast.

And there's an old lady in the corridor, one of the old residents, another resident. And she wanders down and she sees her friend in an iron lung. She goes up to her and obviously her friends in the iron lung can't move. She sees that she's got loads and loads of candy and a nice pair of glasses as well. So she steals her glasses.

Oh, yeah.

She steals her candy and goes back to her room to eat all the sweets.

F***ing bully.

I know. It makes in an iron lung.

But she gets it though, doesn't she?

She does because while she's in her room scoffing all this stolen candy, she sees a giant scarab beetle. Now we all know, listeners, scarab beetle is an ancient symbol of the Egyptians and the pharaohs. We've watched the Brendan Fraser Mummy movies. We know that those things, when you see those, there's never a far behind the mummy. But she doesn't know that. She just thinks it's a big cockroach or something. It crawls under a sheet. It bites her. She falls out of bed and Bubba Ho Tapp appears.

He puts his lips on your asshole.

And he sucks your soul out of your bottom, doesn't he?

I love that bit. For days I've been saying it. You know, the old guy, and it was, asshole, asshole. I've been going around at work just going, asshole. It's fucking funny.

Now, while she is being killed by Bubba.

In my head, by the way. I'm not saying, asshole. It's in my head, I'm saying it. It's funny.

While she's having her soul sucked out of her bottom, Elvis is in his bed, and he gets a little flash, an image of the lady who's just been killed. He sees her being dragged past his bedroom door.

Yeah, that's what he thinks he sees.

And he sort of, am I hallucinating? Is it the drugs I'm on? I don't know. And he just goes back to sleep, and that's that, really. And the next day, another hearse is filled. So we're on to it now as an audience. It's more than just old people dying. Somebody's sucking on assholes in this old people's home.

Asshole sucker.

And it's not Elvis. Elvis wakes up in his room. Obviously, he's on his own now, because his roommate died the other day, and there's a young lady in the room. And she's rifling through the chest of drawers. And it turns out, next to him, that was her dad, who died. But he's like, I've never seen you here before. She's like, oh, I brought him in once when I dropped him off years ago.

She has no remorse of this, though. Like, he's like, oh, you should have come a bit more. She's like, oh, whatever.

Yeah, she's like, why?

The thing is, though, he can't at any point be judging that. He has no idea how their relationship was. That bloke might have been a fucking dickhead.

Well, in The Flashback Girler, he even says, because we find out later how he did this whole switcheroo, where he is in this old people's home and the real Elvis died, vice versa, switcheroo. But he says even Priscilla doesn't know I'm alive. None of my kids, my wife, nobody knows I'm still alive. So he's got a terrible relationship with his family as well.

But you'd think, though, when the Elvis impersonator took his place, dies, he could have then been like, right, gone to the family and said, I am your real father. But I know you're going to hate me.

But no one believes him because he's an old man.

But he would know stuff that only he would know.

That's true. He could do it.

I think he should.

Well, he gets an upskirt shot because this lady...

That would make a movie itself, not the upskirt shot. Not that. I get arrested for that nowadays. Um, um, not saying that it was good to do this, not saying it was good up until the beginning. Digging a hole. Um, what would make a good movie that hit this, that's the synopsis, but the movie is his journey to the family house to Telomeres. That would be well good.

Well, it's not. He sees this lady's bottom and he says, look at her. She's wiggling it around.

It is like she just don't really give a shit. She doesn't think about me in this life. She just doesn't care that I'm here. So she doesn't care that she bends over. And if I say it, she's like, I don't care if he sees my ass.

I can see the whole thing. She don't even care.

It's true.

Um, she throws everything in the bin that belonged to her dad's pretty much. Even his purple heart from the war.

That probably made his day though, seeing that bottom.

Oh, yeah. But he says, weak. Well, when she bends over, he says, Oh, I thought that was the first time I felt a flutter. And he feels a flutter. Just a little flutter, but nothing else.

But yeah, she wants to throw away his purple heart. And he's like, Oh, I'll take the purple heart, because I think he's kind of proud of that.

Yeah. So he's got a picture of this guy and the purple heart. And she says, My name's Callie. Um, and, you know, I was his daughter. And he says, Oh, my own daughter doesn't even know I'm alive.

Where'd she come visit me is what he says. Yeah.

She just walks off. The nurse walks in and she uses his real name, which isn't Elvis. And he says, he sort of has a word with her. He says, All right, OK, if you really want me to call you Elvis, I will. So everybody just thinks he's a senile old man who dresses as Elvis and thinks he's Elvis. And he gives a bit of a back story to us, the audience now, that he was an Elvis impersonator. Well, he wasn't an Elvis impersonator.

Such a good idea, isn't it?

It's brilliant, isn't it? That's what really drew me in with this, because it's a theory, you know, that a lot of celebrities who die, there's the theory that they've been swapped out. There's the whole Paul McCartney thing, you know, all that kind of stuff.

And to cement that this has happened, he comes out, he licks his lips, where we saw just a moment ago, he had cherry pie all over his lips.

Yep, cherry pie. Unfortunately, a few years later, while he's living the life of an Elvis impersonator.

He's just like, I'm a trader trash, happily.

Just barbecuing some food.

He's just chilling out with his ladies, telling about cool stuff. I'm an Elvis impersonator and I'm barbecuing, might get laid with one of these guys, or both later in my trailer.

Unfortunately, his caravan explodes with all of his contracts. So he now has no proof at all that he was ever the real Elvis.

Yeah.

And he's fucked. And then obviously then, not long after that, he popped his hip on stage, broke it, fell off stage.

Yeah, because he said he said it was fine. I didn't really care because I was having a good time anyway, which is the best thing about this is the sweetness of the fact that a musical artist, the father, sometimes they don't like the fame or the fortune. They just want to just do the thing that they enjoy doing. And it's so nice. It's like, I was just enjoying doing what I was doing. It's like no pressure. I was just an impersonator, but I was the real thing.

And a lot of celebrity impersonators make tons of money. Elvis impersonators out there, there's Michael Jackson impersonators, you know, you name it. There's people out there that are making so much money, you know, you go and watch the back of these bands that are tribute bands, and they're making a huge amount of money, some of them, you know, I'm trying to think of some of them now, but there's like, I don't know, there's like Ozzy Osbourne tribute bands.

There's Cypress Hill tribute band. I can't remember what they're called, are still looking for a DJ to tour around England with them.

I always wanted to set up.

I can't do it, I'm busy.

I had a fantasy when I was in my early 20s that I would set up a Beastie Boys tribute band. I'd love to do that, Gav, we can still do it.

I can actually do the Mix Master Mike stuff. Well, not to his ability, but I could do a basic version of it.

I'd need two other people.

Rob and Dave.

Now, don't you tell me to smile. Well, what's a good name for-

Team you Beastie Boys.

What's a good name for a Beastie Boys tribute band? Hello, Nasty?

I don't know.

Skills To Pay The Bills, it'd have to be one of their songs.

I guess.

Or the Beast, Beastly Boys, you've got to change the wording sometimes slightly, haven't you, as well?

Yeah, or License To Ill or something.

Yeah.

Anyway, carry on.

There we go. Anyway, he's told this whole story to Kali, and she just walks out of the room. Pretty much.

We do get to meet his mate.

Well, hang on. Before that, the nurse comes in and she says, Oh, it's his hand job time. I'm coming back in a moment to.

Oh, not yet.

To take care of that thing.

Yeah.

And you're like, what thing? Yeah. We'll find out about that later.

But we meet his mate.

So we meet an African American fella.

Cool Jack, just Jack.

But, you know, he says, I'm actually JFK. I've got a scar on the back of my ear. And he has got that scar where I got a shot in the head.

He says he wasn't assassinated and they just dyed me black.

They dyed me black. And Elvis is like. Now, Elvis, this guy, but what's he supposed to do?

He's telling people he's Elvis. They're like, what are you talking about? So he understands how real this is. But the fact that he's been dyed black does make it a little bit more unrealistic, though.

So what you've got a picture now, listeners, and I know a lot of you will have seen this, but what you've got a picture now is for the rest of this movie, we've got JFK, who is now an old black man in a wheelchair.

Who I love.

He's brilliant. Ozzy Davis plays his character. He's fantastic. And then you've got an elderly Elvis who's still rocking like the sunglasses in the hair, but he's got a mirror frame.

So I don't know Ozzy Davis that well. Apparently he's quite well known actor in some films, a beloved American actor. I didn't really know him that well. But apparently his wife said that he said, because he passed, he is his favorite role.

Well, I can imagine they had a lot of fun.

As an actor, that is a playground. Basically you're playing JFK, but you'd be like, but I'm black. And they'd be like, yeah, but JFK, and you think you were died by the government black. And he's like, brilliant.

More fun. Apparently him and Bruce got on quite well.

Yeah, I bet they did.

You know, I can imagine most people say that about Bruce Campbell.

I can imagine, yeah.

Yeah, I imagine Bruce had a lot of fun to work with.

I'm just going to check out Ozzy Davis, actually.

Yeah. So yeah, so he gives his backstory to Elvis. And so these two start forming this friendship. And we're back to night time now. And this time Elvis is having a dream. He's having a dream of cruising in his car when he was younger, performing on stage as an impersonator. And then he sort of has the PTSD of breaking his hip. And that kind of wakes him up. And he says, he wakes up, he says, Oh, damn it, I need I need to piss.

But when he does, yeah, because... James, oh, I don't know.

Bruce Lee did teach Elvis a little bit.

That's what I was going to say, but it was a very small amount of hair.

I doubt he's a black belt.

Yeah. But I love the fact he goes to do his stance and goes, ah, well, he does the stance and he goes, let's go. But yeah, then he goes to do a kick and it's really pathetic and he's got like, oh, yeah.

Then the scarab beetle, he realizes it can fly.

It's very comic book style here. It's very Sam Raimi.

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's real Bruce Campbell scene. It flies around the room. It's buzzing at his face. You've got the camera. You can imagine the other camera just flying at Bruce Campbell's face. He tries to catch it using a bedpan, which is what he was determined to not use.

Yeah.

The irony. Apparently, one scene, Bruce Campbell was in bed for hours, and he needed a wee so badly, but he didn't want to move out of the bed because they were setting up and get everything ready. We used that bedpan to do a real wee at one point, Bruce Campbell.

Nice. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, fair enough.

Anyway, he catches the bug in a bedpan. And again, this is almost quite phantasm-y as well now. Obviously, the same director. He thinks it's got away, and we, the audience, see that it's still inside the bedpan, but he can't see that. And then it flies out, and he manages to stab it with a fork, and it gets electrocuted into a little heating unit. And then, when this thing is sort of frying on the floor, he just looks at it and goes, never fuck with the king. It's just brilliant stuff, really.

It's brilliant.

Absolutely love it. He calls for help.

Help me!

And then he hears some whispers, and he thinks, well, I better go investigate, because something's happening out in the corridors, linking into his visions that he's had. He walks out and he sees someone on the floor, and it's his buddy Jack, aka JFK. Yeah. And he sees a scar on the back of his head, so he thinks, okay, maybe he really is JFK that was not assassinated and in fact was died by the government. It's just ridiculous. But and he says, so first of all, he's going, Jack.

Yeah, it's always good to have a bit of Reggie.

He doesn't have his ponytail, sadly.

Did Reggie pass recently?

I'm not sure, did he? I'll be really sad if he did. Can you check that out?

Yeah, I'll check now.

Reggie Bannister. For anyone who doesn't know, Reggie Bannister is the sidekick in the Phantasm movies.

No, I'm really sorry. Reggie's not passed.

He's fine.

Sorry, sorry.

So for anyone who doesn't know, he drove the ice cream van in the Phantasm movies and helped take on the Tall Man in all of those. He's probably the only actor that was in every single Phantasm movie, because they swapped out the main actors a couple of times. And Reggie Bannister comes in and he's obviously one of the heads of like the nurses. And they say, well, we heard a scuttling, Elvis says, I heard a scuttling sound, you got bugs in here, big bugs.

Penis cream time.

Here comes the nurse, she comes in. And this is where he sort of in his narration says, yep, so this growth on my pecker head, I think it's cancer. They're not telling me if it's cancer or not, but I'm sure it's cancer. And he thinks this is the reason why he can't get it up anymore. Not the fact he's like an 80 year old man.

Yeah.

Just the fact that he's got this growth. So the nurse comes in and the sound, the audio now is gross because she slaps all this cream onto her hands and you get like a real like sound. And then she reaches down and she just starts applying cream all over his penis.

She doesn't do it.

And she says, this should stop the pus, Mr. Presley. And while that's going on, because he's now got something exciting going on, this potential investigation with his buddy, he suddenly gets a woody.

He does, which surprises him. He looks at it and he's quite pleasantly surprised, though.

She says, Mr. Presley, you old rascal, you. And he says, why don't you pull on it a couple of times? And she said, oh, no. And you think for a second, she's thinking, no, she won't. And she said, it would be abuse. But she walks off and he sort of just folds his hands behind his head and he's nice and proud with a big smile on his face. And he looks down at it.

He's super proud of himself.

He's like, this is the first hard one I've had in 10 years. This is brilliant. Yeah.

Well, it's one of those things that we're not there yet, Dan. And I imagine, like, when you lose your boner, that's quite a shit thing.

Oh, God.

I know.

Oh, dear.

I know.

Well, he's happy. He's proud. He's got his boner. And the reason he's got his boner is because, like I said, him and JFK got a cause, got a reason to live and to investigate what's going on now. So we have a meal time now and we see all the crazy old people living in this old people's home. There's an old man dressed as a cowboy and he says, this is my buddy Kim Osabi thinks he's a cowboy. And he's just an old man who just shouts at everybody with fake guns and a cowboy hat. It's brilliant.

Asshole.

And he just keeps thinking about the bug and the fight with his scarab that he had. And that's all he can think about all the time. So it's back to night time and he wakes up again and he sees some more visions of a woman being dragged away. And JFK appears at his door. And it's like these are the dream team now. They're the Scooby Gang now.

It is good.

And so they hear a scuttling sound and he says, by the way, I do believe that you're the real Elvis. I've heard all the rumors and I know they're to be true. As president, I was privy to all of that paperwork. So I know that you are the real Elvis. And this really cements their friendship now, because Elvis is like, at last somebody believes me. So he must be JFK. So they really like bite into each other's stories now at this point. And they go hunting.

He says it's an assassin. I love the fact that he says an assassin.

Well, he takes him in the toilets first of all, doesn't he?

Oh, and he says, look, like George Michael.

Oh, God, rest in peace. You throw me that I wasn't expecting that. He takes him in, so JFK takes him into the bathroom and there's some graffiti on the wall and it's hieroglyphics on the bathroom wall. And he says, I've translated this. It means Ho-Tep, which means a pharaoh. And Elvis is like, OK, this is weird. How do you know this? Why have you translated this? Why would he write something on the bathroom wall?

Asshole.

You came in and he scared him off. So now they know that there's a blood sucking, a soul sucking demon that's sucking all people's buttholes in the old people's home.

Yeah.

I love this podcast because there's sentences in life that you never thought you're just going to say really.

But it happens.

That was one just then. Yeah, it happens. We see the nurse, the hand job nurse taking a cigarette break.

Is that her name now? Is it?

Hand job nurse.

Hand job nurse.

Either that or penis cream nurse. Hand job nurse. It just flows better.

The hand job nurse. Send for the hand job nurse.

Have you ever seen hand job cabin in the woods or whatever it's called?

No, no, no, I haven't.

Yeah, I haven't seen that either. I can't imagine it's very good. I'm sure it's probably an Amityville film as well, Amityville hand job.

Amityville hand job. Love it.

Oh, there's Amityville vibrator, isn't there? So there's got to be Amityville hand job.

I guess.

Anyway, she takes a cigarette break. She hears some noises and sees some flashing lights coming from the garden shed. And Bubba steps out of the shadows in front of her. He's quite good prosthetic.

It's OK. I think they're wise to not actually show him that much. I think that's more. Yeah, I think so for this case.

When he steps out of the shadows, he's watching. And we go back to Elvis and JFK. This is great. Elvis and JFK are doing some research about reincarnation and soul sucking. Again, a sentence you wouldn't really.

It's pretty cool, isn't it?

Yeah. And they start, they're both in their pajamas, by the way, just to paint the picture, because it's late at night and they should really be in their beds. And he says, yeah, it looks like he's an ancient mummy, soul sucker. And this is what I think this is where Elvis says, kind of like a Bubba Ho tab.

Yeah.

And they're like trying to figure out how he got to Texas and what he's doing there. Well, that's happening. Kimo Sabe, the old man in the cowboy outfit is sort of wandering around and he gets his soul sucked, doesn't he?

He gets it sucked good and proper.

Kimo Sabe! So Elvis starts asking, why is he here? How is he here? And they hear some noises. Elvis says, I'll be brave.

Yeah.

I'll go out and see what it is. Joke, he grabs a stick.

I love them. They're such a dynamic duo, aren't they? They're like the nighttime Batman and Robin. They're just of the OAP parlor. They're just at nighttime though.

Like Adam West and Dick Ward back in the day. Amazing. And Elvis sees Bubba walking towards him, Bubba Ho top. And the lights flicker. It's that classic walking up the corridor and the lights flickering. So you can kind of half make out what it is.

Yeah.

And then all of a sudden you get, I don't know why Elvis is in tune. So much with this, but he gets flashes of ancient Egypt. I guess Elvis is quite a spiritual person. That's why he gets all these visions and stuff like that. I don't know, but Bubba vanishes. The Cowboys collapsed dead to the floor. But they say his soul is intact. We saved this one. He may be dead, but his soul is intact. And yeah, this is where he says so. It really is some kind of Bubba Ho tip.

Have you heard a bit where they found the hieroglyphics?

Yeah, we've done that.

Yeah, I love the fact where he says Cleopatra does the nasty, is all he could figure out was what they came up with.

What do you think it means?

Cleopatra does the nasty, not what?

Well, they're simple men. So Elvis is in the garden, and he's out there thinking about what they do next and their investigation, and the nurse comes over just to ruin it and says, Mr. Presley, it's time for your nap and your penis cream again. And he just looks at her and goes, fuck off. Yeah. And he feels really good saying that.

Yeah.

He's told to what to do all the time, being in this old people's home. He's actually, this is giving him life again, this whole adventure.

Yeah, absolutely.

So they're then trying to figure out how this mummy can pass through walls. So they go and they head down to the river. He heads down to the river on a Zimmer frame. And he says, Where did you come from? Bubba, how did you get here? And he finds a piece of a bus under water.

Yeah, that's it.

There was a bus crash. And we'll cut forward to that, rather than explain it later. So basically, they were transporting this mummy to a museum in Texas a while back. And the bus crashed off a bridge. The sarcophagus landed in the river. And the mummy somehow sprung to life. And it now feeds off the souls from the bottoms of people to keep alive. But it keeps, it needs to feed every few days to keep alive. And that's what it's doing in this old people's home.

It's like predator. If we know it bleeds, we can kill it. So once they start figuring out why it is, maybe they can, excuse me, maybe they can try and work out how to get rid of it. It's good though for them, because they're bored. It's such a fun thing for them to do in the evenings when everyone else is asleep. Nah, fuck it, let's just go do this.

Yeah, and they also said that it's naughty because they should be in their beds. So they're feeling really like kids again. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, absolutely.

Getting out and running around. Back in his room, he's thinking about his penis. And he's thinking, you know, I'm really pleased I got that hard on the other day. But what is that growth on the tip of it? Is it dick cancer? Not sure what it is. And then he puts his own cream on this time, doesn't he? He does. And I just signed effects again. They're just awful, really. But it's great. It really sells it.

I know. It's so funny. Full blessing. 24 hour Elvis movie fun.

Just to rub it in and remind him of the glory days.

Like the nurse does with the ointment, rubs it in.

Oh, very good. Very good. He thinks about his wife, his daughter, his life regrets. Was it the right thing to do to give it all up and pretend to be an Elvis impersonator? Who knows? But that's all halted when JFK comes in and says, I've done some research. And this is where they find out about the mummy, the bus, the whole thing.

Yeah.

And Elvis says, I saw it. I saw it down by the river. We need to finally, we need to destroy them once and for all. So what we need to do is sleep in the day so that we can, so we can wake up at night.

Such fun little ventures for them.

And Elvis says, you know what? He says this to us, the audience. I played movies and heroes in all my movies. Because Elvis was a film star, don't forget guys, you know, he was in loads of movies. And he says, I've always been a hero in the movies, but never in real life. This is my chance to be a real hero. So him and JFK, he calls him up on this phone from this one room to the other. And he says, it's time to take care of business, or we're going to kill some mummy.

Nothing at all, but it's just for the crack of it, yeah.

So Elvis in his Zimmer frame, JFK in a wheelchair, slow motion time. Let me just get this beautiful shot of them slowly, really aching.

It's really not, it was really good though, because they come out with like all the in uniform, all dressed up and stuff, and they're all ready. And it's like a cowboy movie, like all getting ready for the final battle.

And it is a bit like a Western.

It's very much like a Western, yeah.

It's like two old cowboys.

Yeah, yeah.

Now have come back together for one final, there's a bad guy in town that they need to take out. And it's time for them to get together and do this. They have a little conversation where they reminisce about not being good dads. They both think they weren't good dads. Elvis says, you know, I haven't really seen my daughter for years. JFK says, I don't think I was ever a good dad, especially when I was president. You know, I was so busy.

Yeah, exactly.

And it's quite a sweet little moment between them.

Yeah, yeah.

It's got a homemade flamethrower as well, hasn't it?

I love the fact he pulls out a flamethrower. Wow. Okay.

He says to him, Mr. Kennedy, I've got one question before we go off on this mission and separate. He said, what's that, son? He says, how was Marilyn in the sack? And he says, I can't confirm that. That's confidential.

Yeah.

But she was crazy.

And then she stomps off. Yeah, it's very funny. It all goes off in his wheelchair.

Elvis is like, I knew it. I knew she was a hellcat in the bedroom.

Yeah, it's funny.

So they separated now to try and draw out Bubba. And Bubba does creep up on JFK in his wheelchair, but Elvis knows he's watching from the shadows. Before he can get to him, Bubba vanishes because he's a scary magic mummy that can disappear and reappear. He keeps creeping up on them. Him and Elvis sort of tussle a little bit. Elvis falls down, gets back up, strikes another Kung Fu pose. He's not going to do anything, though, is he? He can't even lift his leg off the crane.

Well, no, that's why it's quite funny. There's all of these things, so they don't need to synchronize their watches, but they do that because it's kind of funny.

JFK speeds up in his wheelchair and Bubba vanishes again and reappears and knocks JFK out of his wheelchair. So Elvis, as the wheelchair empty, flies towards Elvis. He dives into it and takes control of it, starts driving it around. He heads back to the fight, and Bubba is in the process of sucking on JFK's bottom to get the soul out. And there's a really cool thing they do here now, where when Bubba Hoteb speaks, the words sort of come out like a cartoon out of his mouth.

Yeah, hieroglyphics come rolling out. It's a strange choice, because they only kind of do that then, but it's a good one.

They do it two or three times, maybe, and that's it. But and then those hieroglyphics then turn into English, so we can see what he's saying. It's really cool. Yeah. And Elvis, Elvis lights him up and says, Sorry, man, takes him out. JFK is okay, but he's dying. And he says to him, I've got to take care of business for you, JFK, haven't I? And JFK says, take care of business. And he dies.

Yeah, he does.

So Elvis salutes him and says, Okay, Mr. President, this is for you. And then I don't know where he gets this from, but he says some magic words from this little book that they've got. They broke down some magic words. It's all a bit crazy. Bubba gets back up. He speeds up Bubba in the wheelchair. Elvis just charges him. They fight in the wheelchair. So you've got Elvis Presley in the wheelchair, fighting a mummy as it rolls down a hill. And they land at the bottom on the edge of the river.

It is a really weird ending.

And his last words, of course, being Elvis Presley are. Thank you very much. And he dies. But I've written a strange, strange ending, but quite a moving ending as well.

Yeah, it is quite powerful in a little sort of way, I guess.

And it just goes to show, and we'll give our thoughts in a moment, but it just goes to show that Don Cascarelli is a really unique director. You know, the fantasy movies are so weird and wonderful. And I think the same for this, really. It's just such a strange film.

It's quite, it's a really strange film. It's a really strange choice, but he doesn't really sort of do like straight, normal sort of films, does he?

But you've got to see it. Bruce Campbell as Elvis with a black JFK and an old people's home taken out of mummy.

Yeah, absolutely.

And it's the whole, it's not so much the mummy really or any of that. It's more the sort of friendship between those two. The microscope on growing old, especially growing old in an old people's home. But also how this little adventure, like you said, all the little things that synchronize in the watches, this is the last little bit of excitement they're going to get in their lives really. And they're really, really buying into it. I really enjoy it. It held up well for me.

No, no, not totally. It's fine. This time around, it was all right. It's such a fun concept. You can't really ignore it. You kind of need to watch it. It's not like real hard horror or anything, but it's out there enough. So I think you kind of got to watch it.

It's got heart, hasn't it?

Yeah, totally.

It's a sweet movie.

If you've not seen it, you should probably watch it, but it could be a Sunday afternoon. You don't have to rush to watch it. But if you haven't seen it, you probably should check it out for sure.

Yeah, I'm going to definitely give it a thumbs up.

I'll give it a thumbs up if you haven't seen it. I have seen it and it doesn't really do a huge amount more afterwards, I feel.

I think Bruce Campbell fans will really enjoy this the most. Yeah. And possibly Don Cusquarelli fans, in other words, Phantasm fans will really enjoy this as well.

I think, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Yeah. But yeah, that's Bubba Ho tap. Yeah, it's a weird and wonderful film.

Weird and wonderful. All right. Well, that's that one. I suppose.

Oh, who's that? Talking of weird and wonderful.

He is, isn't he?

He's born in some Elvis Presley costume in.

Weird and wonderful.

Bill, you've never played Elvis and I can imagine you doing a fantastic Elvis impression, Bill. Yep. Look at that. Shaking those hips.

Oh, God. What's he shaking there?

Oh. Thank you very much. Well, do you want to take us into World Of The Strange, Bill, please?

World? World Of The Strange.

Oh, thank you very much. It's the World Of The Strange. World Of The Strange. Strange World!

Still got some cup of tea.

Ooh.

A bit cold now, a bit.

Bill Murray, thank you for leading us in, as you do every episode. So, we've just talked about Elvis, and being swapped out with an impersonator, and all that kind of stuff. I thought we could look at some theories and conspiracies about Elvis being one of them, and many other celebrities that have died, and potentially not died, and some of those crazy conspiracies around that.

Okay.

Now, I must say, to be honest with you, I think the reason these conspiracies exist is because when someone like Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley dies, people just don't want to believe that they could be gone. So, they sort of say, I've seen Elvis working in my local chip shop.

Yeah. It's like if, because obviously, it's the odd thing here and there of Elvis and younger ladies, if these things were proven true, there will still be people like Michael Jackson not saying that anything happened there, but obviously, do you know what I mean? But as soon as someone says that, you're like, no way, even Puff Daddy. You got fans still going, no, absolutely not because they just have such fandom for them. They cannot believe it. So the same as what you're saying, they're dead.

People do believe that Elvis is alive. We'll get into this in just a moment. And actually, in Home Alone, in the scene with John Candy in Home Alone, there's a man stood behind him with a big beard, and everybody swears that it's Elvis. And to be honest, if he was going to hide out for the rest of his life, he wouldn't show up as a cameo in the back of Home Alone, would he? Let's be honest.

No, not really.

But anyway, so yeah, some of the celebrities that people believe are still alive are Michael Jackson. Now and again, someone will see someone with a sheet over them getting out of a car and saying, that was Michael Jackson. Now, there was a weird thing around, when they brought his body to the hospital, someone got out the back of the ambulance that looked just like Michael Jackson and walked in with a sheet over them and security guards. Could have been anyone though, but there we go.

I was going to say he's probably got another album.

His mum would have anyway, she's dead anyway.

But it's amazing after he died, at least seven albums came out.

Yeah, but his mum was making the money, wasn't she?

And it's like, why are you putting out this drivel? Because it's obviously didn't release it for a reason.

Yeah, I don't think even that.

I never thought of him as much a rapper, to be honest with you.

Good storyteller, really good actor.

Yeah, good actor, yeah.

I don't mind some of his songs, but.

Yeah.

So anyway, let's talk about some of these in a bit more detail. Let's talk about some of these conspiracies. Now, my wife believes this first one. Avril Lavigne.

What about her?

So the theory is that in the early 2000s, Avril Lavigne killed herself after becoming depressed that her music career was coming to hit him rock bottom. And also her grandfather, she was close to died.

I'm not laughing because of the situation. I'm laughing because I think this is ridiculous. But yeah.

They then apparently employed a woman called Melissa Vandela, who looks exactly like her, to replace her.

She wouldn't have. Like Avril Lavigne wouldn't have. Okay, I suppose you still got to get replaced, I guess.

And people say, like, you know what it's like. They compare the images next to each other. And they're like, her eyebrows are a slightly different shape and her nose has got a slight mole on it, but not on that one. And so there's this whole theory that Avril Lavigne isn't actually the real Avril Lavigne. She died in 2000 and has been replaced by Melissa.

Who replaced Melissa?

I don't know. Avril Lavigne has actually said about the theory. It's so dumb, but I've heard worse rumours about me.

Yeah, it's ridiculously dumb. I want to know who replaced Melissa.

I couldn't tell you.

I think it's Dominar Effect.

Well, another one, a more recent one, is Kate Middleton. As we all know, sadly, she had, I think, stomach cancer, it was cancer of some kind. I think it was abdominal. And there were rumours that she died, and she's now got a body double going around with the prince. I don't know about that, but...

Er, that's just nonsense.

You don't believe it? No. OK.

What next?

OK. I'm wondering if you'll buy into any of these. You might have heard of this most recent one then. And this is linked in to the P Daddy, P Diddy thing.

P Daddy.

P Daddy. Jamie Foxx.

That sounds terrible in every sort of way.

Now, as we all know, Jamie Foxx randomly had this weird accident that no one knew anything about. He went into a coma for like three months. And then no one would explain what it was. None of the press. No one could find out why he was in a coma. And when he came out of the coma, he looked slightly different. His mouth and the way his beard grows and even his hairline is slightly different.

Because he's been in a coma.

And people are saying that he was killed because he was about to link some of the stuff to do with P Diddy, because he is actually, he videoed a lot of the parties for P Diddy. Which is true, he's really into photography and videography. But the theory is he was cloned. Gav? See that?

I was watching Invasion the other day with Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig. I haven't finished it yet because I've never seen it. But that's Invasion of the Body Statues, which obviously pod people and being cloned.

It's the worst remake of all of those remakes.

I was watching it, it was OK, but I haven't finished it, so it couldn't be that good.

Well, he put out a statement, Jamie Foxx. He said, I'm not a clone. I'm not a clone. A lot of people want me to believe it, but I'm not a god damn clone. That was his statement.

What if clowns start cloning and you get cloned clowns?

Cloned clones.

Cloned clones.

That's a movie, isn't it?

Yeah, I wouldn't like that.

Attack Of The Clone.

Double getting X. Clowns.

I don't know, you wouldn't like that. But they all look the same anyway, not being racist to clowns, but they all look the same anyway. Do you know what I mean? Squeaky shoes, big red nose. Clownist. Clownist. Well, let's talk about Paul McCartney, then.

It's all clowny of day with Sarah. I'm sure it's all clowny of day. She said, you don't like that. I said, no, I don't. Don't know where it was. Gone.

Paul McCartney.

Oh, yeah.

So the rumor is that he died in 1966. And because the Beatles were so popular, they just replaced him with a body double.

Who?

Did you not hear about this?

Who do they replace him with? They just pull someone off the street. You can still go and sing songs and join the band. No problem.

Because if you play one of the songs backwards, it says Paul is dead. Paul is dead. I bet it does.

I bet it sounds maybe like it, but it doesn't say it. Paul is dead. Paul is dead. Paul is dead.

He was being interviewed recently and he said, look, this room has been going on for 50 years. More than happy for it to just kind of keep going, really. But I'm not dead. Obviously, you know, I wasn't replaced. But that is one that's an old one.

I have kind of heard of that nonsense. I just don't go, I go in, out, shake it all about.

You do the hokey-hokey.

And you turn around.

Here's another one about Keanu Reeves. Keanu Reeves apparently is either a vampire or a mortal. Now, he has aged.

He has aged.

But there are lots and lots of paintings from the Renaissance period, from 1500.

Yeah, but he's got that kind of look, though.

Well, he has got about five or six different nationalities in him.

Yeah, I can imagine.

He's got some Asian. I was going to say he's got an Asian in him.

So he's got a face that looks like a lot of people, maybe. But I have seen some of those old photographs and old paintings, and it does look like him in a lot of those, doesn't it?

Yeah.

And whenever he's asked about it, he just kind of laughs.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Fools.

But what if it's like the substance or something and he's real and he is just out there, him and Paul Rudd.

Yeah.

Just living forever.

Forever and ever.

Because there's also like, I've seen ones where it's like a photograph from the sort of 1800s and it looks just like Nicolas Cage.

Yeah, it's like the people you say about Johnny Depp and you look at Johnny Depp nowadays. He's obviously aging, so.

Yeah, that's true. Paul Walker is another one, apparently.

OK, he's passed away, though, so we should just respect his passing away, surely.

He'd had enough of the limelight and apparently staged his. But then that again links into P Diddy because he was leaving a P Diddy event in his car when his car mysteriously exploded in a ball of flames.

Oh, OK, I don't know.

Another one is Eminem. Yeah, people say that he started wrapping differently. I can't remember what year it was, and that's because Eminem died of a drug overdose.

So they just pulled someone else in. Who can wrap like Eminem.

So Dr. Dre just said, right, we need to get another white guy in who can wrap like Eminem and looks like Eminem.

Look at Frank, the cleaner. What, the janitor, the cleaner. Go get him now.

And he's everybody want to talk, let the gas at the same, but then it comes out.

Look at him, wrap about cleaning the floor. Cleaning the floor, I'm sweeping around. Perfect. All right, get him in.

Boom, shake the room when I'm sweeping with the broom. You've got it. And Dr. Dre said, oh yeah.

Let's make some janitor music.

So there are many more of these, but the biggest ones are obviously Elvis, Bruce Lee. The theory is, you know, this is ridiculous, that there's an island somewhere, a private island, where all these old celebrities have retired.

They're just going to be walking around and this is old celebrities.

Bruce Lee sat in a deck chair.

Oh no, with Elvis Presley.

Elvis chatting about the good old days.

Come on, Bruce, show me some more moves. Not now. Chillin.

Hey, look, here comes Princess Diana. Hey, hello, Lady Diana, how are you? I'm good, thanks. Have you seen Marilyn? Me and her have got a nail appointment later on down on the coast. Just imagine this crazy. But then where do you draw the line? Who else is there? Is Jimmy Savile there?

Well, you know, Bruce is like to Elvis, not now, but we could take that boat, go to that island. Hopefully, Jimmy Savile is not there.

Who would win in a fight between Elvis Presley and Bruce Lee?

I thought you were saying Elvis Presley and Jimmy Savile. But I would pay good money for Bruce Lee to kick Jimmy Savile's arse.

I'd want them gloved up properly.

Who?

Bruce and Jimmy.

Right. And I'd want to see it like a real fight, because Jimmy Savile would think he's all that.

Bruce Lee's got two... This is a very weird tangent. Bruce Lee's got two ways he could go about this. He could either toy with Jimmy Savile and just really break him down, or he could end it in one punch.

Yeah. I reckon I'd like to actually see Mr. T.

He's still alive.

Beat up Jimmy Savile really for the reason that Mr. T is actually the chain man. And he doesn't like the fact that Jimmy Savile was an awful paedophile. He doesn't like the fact that he's got the gold chains and he's trying to rep Mr. T's style, so Mr. T is going to take him out. I'm going to let Jimmy paint it. No.

And Slick Rick is the referee because he's the other chain man, isn't he?

Why not?

Love it. That went off into a weird tangent. So Gav, you do not believe that any celebrity has died and been replaced?

No, no, no, because I think I want to know who's replacing the replacee. It's just a vicious replacee loop, isn't it?

You don't believe in the Katy Perry one?

No, no, no, no, not being replaced.

So Shambani Ramsey?

Well, okay. Who's been replaced? Elvis died. We didn't have anyone. Elvis wasn't replaced. He's not there.

He's dead. But he's not dead.

But he's not dead. Okay. So we're saying then anyone that's dead, celebrities, they've been replaced just because it's an easy get out because we still love them and our fandom is so extreme. Or the ones that are still here have been replaced because we don't like the songs that they're doing now, whatever. Because they change their styles. Is that it? They've been replaced, haven't they? Such a sort of naive.

Oh, Beyonce did a country album. She must be a clone.

Ridiculous, naive go to, isn't it?

But that's social media, isn't it?

That is pretty much in the bubble, social media nowadays. Absolute, ridiculous scenario goes to that first before the normality. Anyway.

Bill, are you really Bill Murray? Or have you been cloned at all? Okay. Dan Aykroyd. He's saying Dan Aykroyd isn't really Dan Aykroyd. Apparently, Dan Aykroyd was killed on the set of Ghostbusters 2 during a freak slime accident, and they replaced him with a body double.

And Bill Murray, the real one, works now at a supermarket and on the tills. And sometimes when his till doesn't work in the mornings, he has till worry.

That wouldn't actually surprise me. If I went to my local supermarket and Bill Murray was in there, I literally wouldn't be surprised.

Bill Murray with till worry.

To turn around, excuse me, where's the bread? And it's just Bill Murray. You're like, okay.

Annoyingly, Bill Murray was on a Joe Rogan podcast recently. Bill Murray doesn't do podcasts. And I still haven't listened to it because-

Oh, it's so funny, because he doesn't know what a podcast is.

Because of Joe Rogan.

But he doesn't know what a podcast is. So he keeps getting up, walking off, and they're like, no, no, you need to be near the microphone. And he's like, is this live then? Are people listening to us now? And they're like, no, it's a podcast. And he doesn't know what a podcast is.

There's no way he doesn't. So I've explained to my dad who forgets things, who's quite old, what a podcast is. It's like a radio show, yeah? It's fairly simple. It's just ridiculous. It's almost like it's a fucking act, isn't it?

But Joe's cracking up, obviously, you know, and he's saying, well, who's listening to us now, then? How many listeners do you have? And Joe's like, I'm probably the most successful podcaster ever.

I just don't like him anymore. I'm so annoyed that I don't like him anymore.

I don't listen to his show anymore, but I listen to clips of him talking to the people I'm interested in. And his ancient Egyptian stuff.

Yeah, I do that. Anyway, let's get off this.

All right, Bill, shake your funky sequence suit and take us out of here.

Let's have a trade of Army Of Darkness as well, Bill. Can you slip that in?

Thank you very much.

That's all the time we've got for this week on World Of The Strange.

Next week, though, give me iron. In an age of darkness, May God have mercy upon your souls. Something's wrong, something's amiss. and a time of evil. You shall die! When the world needed a hero. They'll swallow our souls. I don't want them dying! What it got was him. Groovy. You know your shoe ace is untied? He's a 20th century guy. For that arrogance, I shall see you dead. Trapped. In the Middle Ages. All right, you primitive screw heads, listen up. This is my boomstick.

Army Of Darkness from 1992, rated 15, hour and 21 minutes. That's a short one, actually. When Ash Williams, Ash obviously who we know from the Evil Dead series, is accidentally transported to 1300 AD. He must retrieve the Necronomicon and battle an army of the dead in order to return home. It's a fun, it's a weird one. Well, it's a fun one. I said to you recently, well, no, last year or so, I said, this is a perfect gateway into horror for kids. Perfect, I think.

Yeah, the path to follow would be get them into the Harry Housen movies.

Yeah.

And then show them this, because it's got the skeletons, it's got the zombies, it's got the creatures. But then you've got Ash in the middle of it all swearing and shooting.

And it slaps at human stuff. It's perfect. I'll say seven, eight-year-olds get them to watch this. Even six-year-olds probably be fine.

Yeah, I mean, apart from the few F bombs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a bit like, whatever. Don't worry kids, just don't say it.

Yeah, not like my son.

Yeah.

Um, this is probably not sure if this is the first Evil Dead movie I saw. This could even be the first Bruce Campbell movie I ever really remember seeing.

Yeah, I think, I think obviously being a higher, quite a production at this point, like money wise and stuff like you got to remember at this point here, it's the fucking VHS boom at home. So there's a lot of money being thrown at films and studios at this point, we had loads of stuff come out, which you wouldn't probably come out nowadays. Um, and it's an interesting, it's really strange one as well, a fantasy type film.

Willow was 87, I think, 86, 87.

So there was quite a lot of big, major sort of fantasy films and this does fall into that sort of fantasy, action, horror film. Um, but I think it's really accessible for most ages, really. I think it's quite, it's such a weird one. It's quite a fun movie. It is quite a weird one. It's not my go-to if it comes to an Evil Dead, I want to do like pure horror or...

It is my favorite Evil Dead movie. Um, it's like a comfort blanket. I've seen it. That's probably so many times. Yeah, yeah, definitely. You know, Evil Dead 2 is like the best horror.

But a different film. This isn't this with a cabin film in the woods, a different films.

Well, it's just crazy that it still feels like an Evil Dead movie, but this one involves time travel, knights, you know, a skeleton army.

It does, but that's because you got the actor, they got the chainsaw, you've got the necronomicon.

The director.

Got the director who's obviously doing the shots of the, you know, the Evil Dead.

And by this point, Bruce Campbell knows Ash so well. He is Ash, you know, let's be honest. That you can really put Ash in any situation and it will work. And talking of which, on a quick tangent, the new Predator, there's two new Predator movies coming out this year, both secret. One of them they've announced a teaser poster for, and it's a pirate's treasure chest with the shadow of the Predator looming over it. So it looks like Predator versus, so it's a new prey movie.

Yeah, but by Dan Trakenberg, he did directed the prey.

So it looks like that one's going to be Predator versus Pirate. The other one, no one knows anything about.

Isn't this the World War Two one?

I don't know if it's that or the samurai one. There's apparently one about, there's talk of one where a samurai has to take down a Predator, but it looks like this first one that's coming out very soon is going to have pirates in it.

Well, I'd like to see the World War Two one.

The thing is, and I was talking to our buddy, RJ, about this the other day, the Predator, like Ash, you can put the Predator in some fun situations, couldn't you? Pirates, you could put him in, obviously, we've never really seen him in space.

Oh, yeah, of course.

You could do anything with the Predator.

It was fro, yeah, of course.

And similar to Ash. And Ash, there was a rumor for a long time that Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash was going to come out, or and then there was a rumor that it was going to be Ash vs. Pinhead. I'm glad they didn't do any of those crossovers. I think it would felt a bit cheap and silly. But certainly in comic books, there's been Marvel comic books where it's Ash vs. you know, Ash and the Army of Darkness vs. Freddy and Jason, that kind of thing. Yeah, a bit crazy is what it is.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Skeleton stuff. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, let's get into a lot of practical stuff in it as well.

Yeah, totally. It's good, actually. We're still in that era of not getting into CGI just yet. And if it was, it was stuff like The Lawnmower Man. And it's like, let's stay away, shall we?

Let's not talk about The Lawnmower Man. OK, so we start off with a bit like...

A narration again, yeah.

Also a bit like your Conan movie or something. We've got Ash and he's in Chains.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

He says, my name is Ash. I bet you're wondering what I'm doing here in the 1300 AD. Let me tell you, and we flash back to him obviously working it.

So it's narration again, isn't it?

It is, and he does it well.

Yeah, he does.

He always does. And he flashes back to him working in S-Mart, and he's got his girlfriend, Linda, who has... It's a cameo from... Evil Dead. No, no, no, it's...

Oh, is it Xena?

Bridget Fonda.

Oh, yeah, no, it is.

That's right.

Yeah, I told you, I was watching that with Roger Serra, and I was like, is that Bridget Fonda? This was one section, scene or shot. She looked like Bridget Fonda. And then the next shot, she didn't. And then right at the end of the credits, it's like, oh, yeah, it was.

Yeah, like Bridget Fonda, who got rogered by Robert De Niro in Jackie Brown.

That's all you remember her for?

She's been in a lot of these, but, you know.

That is a very memorable scene, because it may, as a young lad, watch it, you're like, never has this situation arisen for me.

With Bridget Fonda especially. Anyway, he, his girlfriend and him were working in Esma, and he sort of very, very loosely recaps the first two films. We went on holiday to a cabin. We found a book. I read from the book, the Book of the Dead. I had to chop off my hand, da da da da da. Then a vortex opened and I got sucked in. And here I am. And then you get this cartoony sort of thing. What I love is the official title really is Bruce Campbell versus the Army Of Darkness. Oh, is it?

Do you know what I mean? See, this should have been my name is Bruce, shouldn't it? But it's actually him. And it's like, my name's Bruce Campbell. I was an actor in Another Life. And I found it sucked into a vortex to play the character was in a movie. That'd be well cool.

Yeah, it would be. I'd love to see that.

It's kind of Schwarzenegger last action here, I suppose, in a sort of way.

And we get a scene of ash falling from the sky and the car, the Oldsmobile, that's in every movie.

Sam Raimi's car, yeah.

Lands on the ground, and they're suddenly surrounded by some knights.

Loads of knights and horses.

One of them looks very much like Ryan Gosling, the leader of the good guys. Looks like Ryan Gosling, in my opinion. And of course, we've seen this multiple times, but the old man says, it's him, the prophesied one, the one to fall from the sky and save us all.

And Ryan Gosling doesn't like that fact, does he? He's just kind of looking, Gav.

He says, it's one of Henry's men.

Come on, grab him.

Throw him in the pit.

And they're like, what a piece of armor this is. And they're just stabbing the car.

What could it be? So funny. It is really, really funny and slapstick. But Dan, like, all the guys that play the Knights.

That old straight head, straight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A straight head.

So that's what makes it so funny.

Yeah, totally. He's taken in cuffs with all the, well, Henry, this long red headed man who looks kind of vikingish in cuffs with a few of us taken away to a castle.

Yeah, a big fort, a big castle where all the good guys live. And he sees Sheila, who he'll get to know later. And he sees her and he's stoned. They throw loads of stones at him.

Not the weed type.

Not the weed type, no. And Sheila comes up to him and spits in his face because they think he's part of Henry's team.

And he doesn't even after a while, because not yet, though, he still hasn't really decided to start protesting against their, you know, saying, condemning, condemning him until they go pulled up to this pit sort of thing. And they're kind of standing there and he's like, what's going on? And they're like, yeah, all the villages are there. Throw them in. It's all like a fun game. It's entertainment for them, like beheadings were in France many years ago.

And he says to Henry the Red, why don't you tell them that I'm not with you? And he's like, no, they won't believe you anyway.

There's no point.

He says, well, who are you? And he says, I am Henry the Red leader, brave Viking. Whatever he says. And he says, well, hello, Mr. Fancy Pants, typical Bruce Campbell. And my probably one of the best lines ever. He says to him, let me tell you, buddy, you're only leading two things right now. Jack and shit. Jack just left town. It's so good.

At this point, at this point, Bruce Campbell knows Ash that well, though, doesn't he? He can play this so easily. And Sam Raimi as well, though.

Yeah, he had lived a lot of his stuff as well.

But then they're standing there and they see this guy just is thrown into his pit and all of a sudden, like the blood spurt is like some Japanese samurai movie.

Well, it's enough blood to fill about 20 human bodies. It comes out of this pit.

It's crazy. And then he's like, what the fuck? And he's like, I'm not with this guy. I'm not. You got to believe me. And then someone throws a rock at his head as he's protested. And he slowly spins around one leg, slowly back up towards the pit. And and he goes. And I love this piece like Star Wars with Luke Skywalker.

But this old lady, when he pulls in this old lady, is a real Sam Raimi close up of an old lady going, yeah.

Yeah, that's the comical stuff of it. Yeah, absolutely.

Um, one guy tries to run off, by the way. It's like they take him out with arrow cam. Do you remember they took him to Sam Raimi? There's already a shot. And that was used in Kevin Costner's Robin Hood, you know, which came out probably a little bit before this, around about the same time, where whenever Kevin Costner would fire an arrow, we would be like, as an audience, oh my God, we've never seen anything like it. It's like we're on the arrow flying through the air.

It's that camera just following along the thing which is going on. Or like basically Evil Dead, when it's shooting through the cabin doors, open up the doors and it's the camera's point of view. Just that's really good. So I like this cave that he's in, this swamp cave type dwelling that he's fallen into.

Really good tension.

Oh yeah, because it goes real quiet up above as well.

This is Sam Raimi doing some great horror tension.

It looks good as well. It's Luke Skywalker's nightmare.

And you've got Bruce Campbell spinning and looking behind him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the camera is creeping up.

He doesn't know what it is.

I've got to say, earlier on I said this, and it's a bit of a spoiler to me, a spoiler, but I think this, at the end of it, the film has quite a long fight scene, which could have been cut down by a good seven minutes, probably 10 minutes maybe even. And this film is only an hour and 24. I do wonder, obviously I reckon they've just extended that and thought maybe it's going to be longer. I reckon maybe on paper they thought this film was a lot longer, because they get into this movie so quickly.

Yeah, because this is the first time we've caught our breath.

It's weird. It's just like, go, go, go. And I feel like that might have been in the editing where they had to, where they went and did that and they just thought, oh, we don't really have an opening, maybe. I don't know.

And then we get this witch demon pop out of the water and just start punching Bruce Campbell in the face repeatedly. So he starts fighting back, which is what's called comical.

Sure, it slaps at humor again, isn't it? But the thing is, you know, I say it's a gateway for kids. This here, this monster, it's a little bit of tension, but no more than Empire Strikes Back or something. Do you know what I mean? I think it's not that scary, though. It's still quite, because it slaps at humor and the punching, it makes it not as bad.

And then one of the crow chats, they say, the spikes. So they start turning this wheel and the spike starts. So the room now starts shrinking with spikes on the walls while he's fighting this witch thing.

One thing Sam Raimi does do, which is his start as well, is using wide lenses, kind of like, I don't know, 12 millimeters, 10 minutes, almost not fisheye, but like close to that. And going really close to face. So when Bruce is fighting with the witch, he keeps cutting to like their face real close up of him, like, ah, and just doing like a real facial expression, and then her, and then the fight, and then a bit more. And that's such a Bruce Sam Raimi thing to do as well.

And I've said it before, and I will say it again, Sam Raimi is in my top three horror directors. Number three, you know, Argento and Carpenter were above him. But the reason he's in my top three is because he kind of invented his own, this style which has been copied now. But there is a Sam Raimi style, and it is a real mix of horror and slapstick that you've never seen before. The Evil Dead movies really came out. He does it so well when he does it right.

It's also obviously when you do something after a while and you do it a lot of times, you kind of know how to perfect it a lot more. Obviously, he seems from when shooting something, the editing guy, oh, I wanted this to be like the three keys, massive three Stooges fan. I want to be like three Stooges in a way, but that didn't work. So maybe if I next time put the camera closer to the face and have a wider lens, that will get the effect. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

We had this recently, we were in a gym filming some martial arts stuff and Ben was there with, and he only had anamorphic lenses and we were shooting with anamorphic lenses. And I got back and I was like, we can't shoot Jiu-Jitsu with anamorphic lenses. You need a wide lens. You got to be close ups and get the action shots. Otherwise it looks, it just looks shit. It looks dull and boring. So yeah, they're having those big close wide ups and make things look great.

Now, while Bruce is fighting this witch in the pit, there's any one person in the cast, the witch in the pit, baby, there's any one person that believes that he really is still the prophesied one. And that is the old, the wise old man.

Yeah, totally. And he- Yeah, everybody, let's listen to the wise guy.

He's called the wise man.

There's a reason. Anyway, I love the fact that- What does he say? Something man.

It's a strange one.

Strange one. And then he throws the chainsaw down and it's perfect, like-

Oh, it's just hero.

It just dives up in the chainsaw and arm connects.

This is before any Captain America movie or anything would have caught his shield or a Thor catcher's hammer. This is Bruce Campbell up in the air, clicks on to the end of his wrist and he's got a chainsaw.

And he chops the head off.

He says, Hey, she bitch, let's go. And then they just go for it and he chops her head off. And then another one pops out the wall.

It does. And then at this point, the spikes are coming loads. And we've got with this, the difference to the other movies, especially Evil Dead One. Can you tell me the score from Evil Dead One? Can you give me any idea of the music? It's all just... That's all it is, really. But this, though, we've got a massive orchestra score.

Because it's Danny Elfman. Wow.

We should talk about that.

And that's why this film feels so epic, because not only is it a real tribute to Harryhausen later on anyway, but also Elfman's score is absolutely wonderful in this. You know, and he's best known working with Tim Burton, but this is great to see him coming and working with Sam Raimi. You know, Danny Elfman is just incredible. And yeah, okay, you could say Danny Elfman, some of his scores sound similar to each other, but you could say the same with John Williams.

How does that? That's what makes them that. That's what makes them that. You're like, I want a Danny Elfman score. Let's get Danny Elfman. I want John Williams.

Yeah. So a lot of people don't realize it. Yeah, it's a Danny Elfman. That's why the score would stand out. So he manages to get out of the pit by grabbing onto a chain. All right. Who wants some?

Come on. He just spins around, scaring people. You? I love the poor guy that he picks on. You? Come on. You do want some? Yeah. He goes right. And he's there. He's like a little bull sort of guy. So they're going, no, no. He's looking at everyone. Everyone's moving away from him. And he's looking at, no, no, no. I don't want anything. You want some? Come on, you. And he says no.

Well, he frees Henry and his men because really, they weren't really anything to do with them. They're prisoners.

Yeah. Well, he says to them, like, he says, all right, let him go. And Henry's like, really? Like, amazing. He looks at one of the guys and grabs his cheek, goes, ha ha ha ha. And goes running off and like just like so happy. And they're like, no, stop there. You know, Ryan Gosling, so stop there. And he's and then he tries to do something to. Oh, yeah. He has a Ninja Jones session goes on, doesn't he? Where he basically comes out with a knife to have a sword fight with Ash.

And he says the classic, this is my boomstick.

Yeah. He just shuts each. I love the power dynamic switch there. He just shuts Ryan Gosling down in seconds just by shooting the sword in half. So, look, shut the fuck up. Don't even talk to me. You're the same as any of these people, but no matter, no different.

He says, any of you primates come near me and boom. And they all sort of like cower because they've never seen a gun before. And then while all that's going on, the demon that he thought he killed, it's climbed out of the pit.

Very quickly, though, when he's telling them about a gun, it's like he's doing a pitch for his shop because he's telling them how much it is and what oil it's on. And they're all just starting to look at it and go, oh, and then he goes, boom. It's really, really well done. It's really, Sam Raimi's done a really great job of directing this.

Yeah, he shoots the she-demon back into the pit.

Spin that gun spin.

He does an Arnie spin, puts it in his, you know, in his holster.

That's an Ash spin because he just goes, but in this wall, that's well cool.

He looks so heroic. And we said it earlier in the episode, this episode, but he is also such a leading man in this. So handsome. They made him look and he's ripped as well. Like he looks, Campbell's really worked out for this role.

It looks like he's done a bit of work.

Yeah, he looks great. And that's that shot there, you know, of him spinning the gun and putting it in the holster on his back. It's just a hero, isn't it? A hero shot. Yeah, looks so good. And then he says, let's talk how we get back home to the old man. And we cut to him then eating grapes. Girls are feeding him grapes, you know.

Oh, this is really funny.

He's loving life, you know, and there's the wise man sort of saying, well, what we need to do is get the Necronomicon and read some of these pages out. And he's like, oh, not that fucking book again. Jesus Christ. And he says, but if you can read them out, then, you know, you can get home and you're the only one that can quest to find the book.

Yeah, yeah.

And her eyes open as Ash gets close to her. And you think, oh, she's going to turn around and bite him or something. And then he stops and he goes, it's a trick. Get an axe. Because he knows he's dealt with these things before. He knows an axe is the best thing. And this is where he starts fighting her. And then he does that no look shot with a shotgun, where he puts it on his shoulder and she's coming up behind him and he blasts her head off. And he just goes, blows it off.

Yeah, totally. But the movie's shooting through here, though, isn't it?

Yeah, because the next thing we see is the blacksmith builds him a hand, a new hand out of a suit of armors with working fingers and mechanism. So that's how they get away with him not having to have a stump for the whole movie. Yeah. So he's got this hand and then while he's fixing the hand and making sure it works, Sheila comes to visit him because she's now impressed with him even though she spat in his face. But he doesn't give a shit about her. She walks in and he goes, close the door.

Yeah, he is.

She's like, Oh, I just came to give you this. I made this for you. It took me hours. And he goes, Good. I need a horse blanket. And she's made him like a nice coat. And he's like, Good. I need a horse blanket. And then she goes to leave and he grabs her and he says, Give me some sugar, baby. And they kiss and then they make love in front of the fire.

This, though, way it looks at it is so traditionally handsome, like something from the 50s or something. Do you know what I mean?

He has got a 50s Hollywood look about him, hasn't he?

Yeah, especially here, though, with the fire going and stuff. It looks very classic.

Give me some sugar, baby. What a line. Imagine saying that to somebody.

You should say it to Alice later.

Get slapped. I'd get slapped. Or she'd literally just pass me the bowl of sugar from the kitchen.

If I said to say, give me some sugar, baby, she'd give me a kiss. She'd give me some sugar.

Yeah, but she's seen this movie.

Yeah, true.

Well, morning comes and it's time for Ash to head out. So he grabs a horse and him and some other men head out. And they get as far as they can. And they say to him, right, from here on, you have to go alone now. Yeah, the wise man says to him, and when you find the book, these are the words you must say, clack to... What is it? I can't remember what it is now.

He's just like, yeah, he says it a couple of times. He says, say it again. He says, I've got it.

Because he's like, I don't have to say free times.

Which is so funny.

But those are the words from The Day The Earth Stood Still, that classic B-movie, which Keanu Reeves started the remake of. When the alien arrives, it says Clad To, Vrol To, Nick To, or whatever it is. Yeah. So Sam Raimi just stole those totally. Anyway, they, yeah, he says, all right, I'll go. And he doesn't know the words really, but it's Ash Williams, he's going to fuck it up.

We know we're going to get to that point. He's not going to know what he's supposed to say. We just know it, don't we? We can get there and it's good, but he's going to fuck that up.

So Ash gets to a place that he's been in many times, a foggy forest, a misty forest. He's climbing trees in half. He's diving over puddles, falling down hills. A branch hits him in the face. He falls off his horse. He carries on running on foot. And he heads into a windmill. Yeah. Apparently this whole windmill bit was added because the movie wasn't long enough. So they came up with this whole windmill scene.

I see. This is my issue of this. I think, because an hour and 24 minutes is really random time. I think that they really under-restorate or they didn't have time to film it all or something happened. Because I think there's definitely some issue. They just didn't film enough. I went, fuck, we haven't got enough stuff here. Which is really weird. It doesn't... I don't know. Something's gone wrong.

Well, it's good that they put this in because it does tie in to how the evil ash comes about, the bad ash, because he's in this windmill and he locks all the doors and the evil can't get in. It's battering on the door, but it can get in. And the sun goes down and we see the windmill turning and that's fine. And he lights a fire. He accidentally smashes a mirror. Because the evil is sort of lurking, he looks down at the mirror and all the little reflections of him all become real.

It looks like rear screen projection. It looks very much like rear screen.

But it's cool. He manages to kill a couple of the tiny ashes and then they tie him up like Gulliver's Travels. He sort of wakes up and he's got two of them above him holding a third one and they let him go and he dives into his mouth and he swallows.

Yeah, ace. Ace good, isn't it?

Ace cool. And he's like, ah, and he's punching himself in the stomach trying to get it out. Then he pours boiling water down his throat. And then he hears when he pours the boiling water in. But it's already in him and he feels something on his shoulder, itch, he rips his shirt and there's an eyeball. And he says, this girl is growing bigger.

Well, good, isn't it?

It's great effects because what they've done is, so basically there's another ash growing out of him. And what they've done is they've just got Bruce Campbell, then got a prosthetic of a torso of another Bruce Campbell on him. And he's sort of fighting it and running along. But then they cut to a weird, what d'you call it? Like claymation version of it, like stop motion.

Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah.

So Sam Raimi is throwing all of this stuff in.

Yeah.

And eventually they split into two ashes.

Yeah, it's really funny stuff. I imagine, though, this must have probably taken up a while to do some of this stuff. So I wonder, yeah, I wonder what happened. I do think there must have been some troubles with production. They just underestimated something.

Well, they have an argument with each other. He says, who are you? And he's like, you're the good Ash, I'm the bad Ash. You're the goody two shoes Ash. And they do a whole Three Stooges thing where they fight each other and slap each other and kick each other. And then he keeps saying, you're the good Ash, you're the good Ash. And then good Ash blasts in the face with a shotgun. And he just goes, I ain't that good. Which is great. Then he buries, he dismembers himself.

It just chops himself up and buries him, doesn't he?

He then enters the graveyard classic.

Well, he's back to the mission now of going to get the book. This is this is what his mission was. Yeah. And I do feel it's funny, though. Again, it had been an hour and 24 minutes, but it does seem like it's shooting through so quickly for such a movie. It's so short. But at the ending, it seems so long and drags. Really weird.

And this is where when he enters the graveyard, this is where Danny Hoffman's score really comes alive. Really. And you realize this is, you know, it's quite epic, really for such a small budget at the time, really. And he finds not one nook in Armageddon, Gav, but three.

Is that you didn't say three. So he's like, what do I do?

So he opens the first one. And there's just a vortex that sucks him in immediately. And the great practical effect is he's trying to get back out with his whole face is distorted. It's very loony tunes, isn't it? He's like spinning his head to get his face back to normal. He goes, okay, that's the wrong one. Let's try the next one. So the next book is alive, because obviously the Necronomicon has a face on the front. It takes off like a bat, starts flapping around, attacking him and biting him.

No, who calls he Gron? So he says, Blacktail, Marauder.

He just sort of coughs. Which basically means when he picks this book up in a second, he's going to curse their whole land with evil because he hasn't said the right words.

No.

He grabs the book. Lightning crashes down and the whole graveyard starts, all the skeletons start rising out of the graveyard. They grab him. They sort of pull at his face. Skeleton hands are poking him in the eyes. He bites one of their fingers. He manages to get out of there. Little does he know, sadly, he's also awakened Bad Ash, who is going to lead this Army Of Darkness.

I know. He's just turned completely different, hasn't he?

Just because he couldn't be bothered to remember those three words. Lazy. Half a job.

Yeah.

He gets back to the fort, and everyone's like, the hero has returned. Hero, you're here, strange one, prophesized one. And after about the fourth person sort of hugging him, he just goes, get the fuck out of my face. Just pushes them out of the way.

Yeah.

And then he starts like washing his face off with water. Did you say the words, strange one? Did you say the words? He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I said your words.

He didn't, why does he even say that?

He says, now, how do I get home? And then they realize, no, the Army Of The Dead has awoken. You didn't say the words, did you? No. Sheila says to him, so when you go back, because this is like your Han Solo moment now, he said he'd be like a hero, but once he's got what he wants, he's just going home. And Sheila says, but you said, you said things to me when we were making love. You know, I thought you'd be a real hero. And he says, that's just pillow talk, baby. Come on.

What a bastard.

But she still believes in him until the winged demon arrives and picks her up for a little spin.

Yeah.

So this horrible witchy demon thing flies down, grabs Sheila, takes her off somewhere. We're going to find out where she goes in a moment. Because Bad Ash is commanding a huge skeleton army. And he's like, come on, boys, dig him up. And we've got a really good blend now of practical effects, stop motion animation, just like Harryhausen would have done. And then like some other like puppetry thrown in. And it's just all layered in nicely.

Yeah.

All under the watchful eye of Bad Ash, who I believe Bruce Campbell played him as well, right?

I presume so.

I couldn't really see or find out, and I've never really known. But he grabbed, they bring Sheila.

Bill Moses is a dead-eye captain.

Yeah, but he's, he's not, I don't think he's Bad Ash. He's just one of the skeletons.

Right, OK.

Yeah, that's weird. We should mention Bill Mosley is in this film.

Yeah, yeah.

As is, of course, Ted Ramey in three different roles.

Yeah.

Ted Ramey shows up in a lot of Sam Ramey movies as well.

Doesn't say, so I don't know, unless it's, it's, yeah, Bill Mosley, I don't know.

Well, they bring Sheila as a hostage to Bad Ash, and he basically grabs her and forces her to kiss him. And that is going to turn her into an evil version of Sheila, a possessed version, which we'll see her in just a moment. So she's now been captured and turned. Cut back to Ash giving a speech as the army are approaching the castle. He's giving this speech. Let's fight. We can do this, guys. Who's with me? Is everyone with me? And they're like, yeah, we believe in you, chosen one.

No, but he does this move is up, down, push along sort of thing. And they do the move later on and it does seem to work.

Yeah. This is your classic Western where it's the build up.

It's Lord Of The Rings. It's like two towers.

But it's also your Western where it's like there's only a dozen people in the town and one man's going to teach them how to take down a whole army, that kind of thing, you know? And this is where it kind of just goes into this giant battle now. Yeah. Where we couldn't really talk about it now because it really is just a showcase. And yes, it does drag.

It goes on and on and on and on.

But it is a showcase of effects, gore, but also swashbuckling, stunts. It's a real... It is fun. But once you've seen this movie several times, yeah, you may get a bit bored by this point.

Yeah, because you have the classic build up stuff. The alchemists making gunpowder and them just making shit, like 18 style on the car and doing things. And it's like a build up to the fight. And how will we do it? We can get Henry's men to help personally, that sort of stuff. So it's quite good, but then it does drag for a while. After a while you're like, oh, come on, the editor must have known this. But this is what I reckon must have been a problem and they just didn't have enough footage.

They use catapults as well, with the gunpowder and them, they blow up the skeletons. And because they're skeletons, they blow to smithereens. But then some of them climb up the walls, they're chopping their heads off. But we've got some fantastic, if you're a fan of Ray Harryhausen, you'll see some fantastic work here where there's stop-motion skeletons attacking men. And they're sort of, especially with Bruce, he's doing some great choreography where there wouldn't have been anybody there.

Yeah, totally.

And then she says, she either grabs him, she says, but it's me, Ash, you love me. And he goes, honey, you got real ugly. And I think he stabs her and throws her off the top of the castle. That's that. He then fights using two swords. He fights Bad Ash, more and more skeletons, more and more stunts and explosions. Bad Ash gets his head spun around, eyes rolling back like a cartoon. Sheila wakes up in the pit. She's still alive and there's a truce between Arthur and Henry's men.

They do. And they both actually come together and you think they're both going to war, have fisty cuffs and they hug each other.

Yeah. So he's united the two clans. He's defeated the evil of the land. He's got the woman, you know, the love of his life, but he's still going to go home because he needs to go back to his own time. So they give him the time potion. They say to him, you know, you got to have six drops of this. No more, no less.

You know, he's going to fuck it up again.

So he kisses Sheila goodbye. He's escorted to a cave that he then dynamites himself in. He landslides, so he's inside there in his car. And he's putting the drops into his mouth. Yeah, and some rocks fall down and he gets distracted. And he loses count.

Oh dear.

And the years go by while he's lying in the back of the car. So I guess it's like a potion that stops you from aging. And all the years go by and his hair grows long and his beard grows long and he wakes up. And the world's ended. There's like an apocalypse. But somehow you've got like Big Ben, the Statue Of Liberty, you've got everything all piled up on top of each other. And it's a bit sort of Planet Of The Apes, isn't it? And he just says, I slept too long. Oh no.

Yeah.

And that's that's the end. But there is an alternative ending.

Yeah, I don't. So I don't know the alternative ending.

So the alternative ending is he waits. It just he takes the drops. He doesn't miscount, so I've got it on VHS. So I think one of them is a cinematic ending, and the other one is the home video ending. I don't know which way around it is, but the ending I've got, the video I've got of this, the VHS, at the end of it, at the end credits, you get the other ending, and it's also on the DVD.

Yeah.

It's the better ending, I think, in my opinion anyway.

Yeah, I prefer the one in Asmar.

But it's really strange that I love this film so much, and it's, like I've said, it's probably my favorite Bruce Campbell movie, full stop. But you're right, the last 15 minutes of this, are just so same-y, really. It's a shame. When you're watching it, listeners, you might not think that, because there is so much going on, but it is just a fight that goes on and on and on and on and on, with skeletons getting exploded and chopped up.

Yeah.

But if they'd have really nailed the ending, this would be like a 9 out of 10 film.

Yeah, I think there's a definite situation going on with this, and like I've said multiple times. So yeah, I think it could be better, which is weird because of all my money put to it. But then again, having all that money might have been the issue. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. But it's a great movie, and if you've not seen it, then I don't believe you, because I think any horror fan has probably seen this. And it's one that kind of transcends horror really. I think this is probably been seen by people who aren't necessarily into horror as well.

Yeah, this is more consumable, especially like on everyday TV. And like I said, this was on quite a lot. Like you could put the telly on of an evening on a Saturday night, late or whatever. And this would be on Raav's and the other two movies, that's for sure.

And I think what's probably good about this movie is people would have seen this, then found out it was, that's probably why it's not called Evil Dead 3. It wouldn't have done it as well.

Yeah, it's Army Of Darkness, no, it wouldn't do.

But I think people then might backtrack and go watch the first two Evil Dead movies. And that might get someone in, like you said, a gateway. It might get somebody into horror then.

Yeah, well, I think it's a good go-road horror anyway. But yeah, you're right. It could be a go-road to the Evil Dead. And yeah, maybe.

But it's a showcase for Bruce Campbell's comic that we just delivering lines, but also is a physical comedy. But also you've never seen him as heroic as you have in this movie.

No.

It's great.

Yeah.

Klaatu, Barada, Nikto.

Yeah. No, I think it's pretty good. Do check it out if you haven't seen it. That's for sure.

I'll definitely give this a thumbs up.

I'll give it a thumbs up for sure.

Yeah. Just a bit of it. That's the shit thing about reviewing films for this podcast.

You start to see the cracks.

Yeah. But I'll always go back and watch this whenever, but if it's on TV or I just feel like a bit of Bruce Campbell, I could throw this on. It's fun. I don't need to worry so much about the ending. It's more about the beginning, isn't it? The first hour of this is fantastic.

Yeah, totally.

There we go.

All right then, I guess we come for the outro.

Groovy.

And we're back again.

Back again, Groovy.

Groovy, we're back again. Thanks for coming along and listening to today's show. Got some fun things coming up this year.

We have. That was Bruce Campbell, but let's talk about what's coming up next. Episode 175, it's my birthday episode.

Oh, yes. Exciting.

Yeah, we're covering The Substance, which is my favorite horror film of the last 25 years, which I actually did over the weekend while I had a chance with Sarah because I wanted a female perspective. So we'll be covering that, which is rare for us to cover such a new film. It only came out a year ago or less than a year ago. And we are teaming that up with randomly because it's my birthday episode. Talking to Bruce Lee earlier on, we'll be looking at Enter The Dragon.

Yeah.

Wow.

I know. Well, good. Big fan of Enter The Dragon.

Possibly the greatest martial arts film ever made, and it was an American film, which is crazy because normally you think it would be a Chinese movie that was the greatest, but this just is just so good.

Yeah.

So good. John Saxon, Jim Kelly, obviously Bruce Lee.

That's just loads of good stuff.

Some great outfits in there as well. Some great sideburns. It's good. And a soundtrack. Oh, what a soundtrack. I've got that on CD.

Yeah.

Great stuff. So yeah, Enter The Dragon and The Substance for my birthday on the next episode. After that, episode 176 will be another... Patreon, pic pic pic pic pic pic pic. And our buddy RJ McCreedy has selected a couple of action movies.

Back round of RJ, nice. I do like the old Patreon pics. What have we got?

We've got Commando from 1985.

Oh, so good.

And another father trying to find his daughter, Liam Neeson. 2008's Taken.

Nice, so good.

So we'll be watching that.

What a great double bill.

I know. And Commando, especially, is going to be just ridiculous to talk about. But also Taken, I haven't watched that for years, actually. So it'll be fun to watch that. I didn't really... I think the second one was OK, but I thought the third one wasn't very good at all. But have you seen all the three Taken movies?

The third one wasn't nobody Taken.

I can't even remember it.

I feel like nobody's Taken in the third one. I think that was the issue with it.

No one's Taken.

The second one is the same again. OK, cool. The third one is like, well, who's been Taken? I don't know.

And then after that, episode 177, it's another actor special.

Special, special, special.

This time, we'll be looking at Mr. Kevin Bacon.

Mr. Kevin Bacon. What are we doing?

We're doing Tremors from 1990.

How funny?

How fun is that going to be to discuss Tremors?

Oh, yeah.

Why haven't we covered it yet in 11 years?

I have no idea.

We'll be rectifying that. And we're teaming that up because he's done quite a few horror movies. We've covered Hollow Man. We're teaming that up with Stir Of Echoes from 1999, which is a really underrated, not often talked about, but I know a lot of people love it.

Yeah, totally. Yeah, cool. Great. That's going to be fun.

Yeah. And we can also talk about Kevin Bacon, The Seven Degrees Of Bacon, that whole thing. But also, he's quite a lot of horror, like I said, but a very diverse actor. He's done a bit of everything, music, dance.

Yeah, totally.

I can do it all.

He does enjoy doing acting.

We've obviously covered him in The Friday The 13th as well, as I discussed his package in that one.

Yeah, you did mention Kevin Bacon's growing hilarious a lot.

I did. It's a sight to behold. So that's what's coming up. My birthday, Substance, Enter The Dragon, then Commander and Taken, for Patreon Pick, for RJ, and then Kevin Bacon's Tremors.

Tremors.

The stir of Bacon.

He gives you the Tremors.

He does. He gives me the stir of my echoes.

I don't know what that means.

So that's that. That's what's coming up. So before we say good night and goodbye, we should probably do some housekeeping.

Absolutely. Do your thing.

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Groovy.

And you are the kings and we hail to you. And queens. And everything in between. So that's it, Gav. Another episode in the can, episode 174.

Yep.

Get ready for my birthday now.

Yeah.

So yeah, there we go. Thanks for coming on on the chin of Bruce Campbell.

It was good. Thanks for listening for sure.

So it's a good night from Bruce Campbell's chin, of course.

It's a good night from a pussy dick.

Oh, I knew you were going to go there. I just knew it. And it's a good night from a mummy who sucks your life force out of your bottom. There we go.

That's that.

So stay safe, stay groovy. Don't go in the work shed unless you're Bruce Campbell.

Don't do it.

Good night.

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