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EPISODE 163 - FINAL DESTINATION PART 3/4/5

Sep 12, 20243 hr 14 minEp. 163
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DON’T FEAR THE REAPER!! Episode 163 of THE PODCAST ON HAUNTED HILL is here, and we’re finishing up the FINAL DESTINATION FRANCHISE with PARTS 3, 4 and 5!!! There's lots of PARANOIA and GORE throughout, and we also rank each individual DEATH SCENE, as well as reveal our ranking of all five FINAL DESTINATION films!! So tune in, download, listen, like, comment, and share!! IT’S THE END OF THE LINE!!!!

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GavGav

The podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing.

Intro

I am the devil, and I am here to do the devil's work. I saw this when I come.

GavGav

Hello, and welcome to the podcast on Haunted Hill Episode 163. Dan tried to move his fingers quickly. He wasn't going to throw up 100 fingers in seconds, but I mean, he's in like 163.

DanDan

Wow, imagine if I did actually 163 fingers.

GavGav

What's that crazy hand thing to me? Whoa, welcome, ladies, gentlemen, non-general people, aliens, ghouls, spacemen, space cadets, anything you'd like.

DanDan

Tony Todds.

GavGav

Anything, anything. Dead people, death itself. Welcome, welcome. If it's your first time, welcome again. Welcome, welcome back.

DanDan

If it's not your first time, welcome friend. This is becoming a new catchphrase for 2024 for us.

GavGav

It kind of is, isn't it?

DanDan

For you anyway, for fuck's sake. I am Dan, you are Gav, we are Podcasts on Haunted Hill.

GavGav

I hope everyone is happy in the world and everything is dandy for you. And merry and gay. Yes. What we are doing today?

DanDan

Merry and bright.

GavGav

Well, I know what we are doing today and it's going to be a real fun one. What we are doing, Dan, explain to everyone else.

DanDan

Well, welcome. Yes, we are this year, we're either doing director specials, it's our 10th year of casting, as the cool kids say. So if we're not doing a director special or something else, we are trying to mop up some of the franchises that are outstanding. Last year, we started a franchise, the first two entries, Final destination 1 and 2. And this episode, we will be looking at 3, 4 and 5. So three movies for you in this one.

At the Final destination 3 from 2006, number 4, or as it was called, the Final destination from 2009. They tried to trick us, like they've done so many franchises in the past. Yeah. Yeah. The Final Nightmare.

GavGav

The Final Fragments, yeah.

DanDan

The Final Chapter. And then Final destination 5 from 2011.

GavGav

Is it saying final? You're like, I'm gonna have to go and watch it because they're telling me it's the last one. And if I miss this, it's a whole thing of my life that I've missed culturally.

DanDan

You did this exact skit when we did Friday the 13th 4. The Final Chapter followed by 5 A New Beginning. You said, there was an old lady who was like, Harold, we've got to go and see number 4. It's the last one. It's saying it's the final chapter. And then the following year, she's like, they bloody got us. Harold, it says 5 is out in the cinema and it's the new beginning.

GavGav

Booster. I think you should go for all the sort of humorous things I've said over the years. Put together, take back to me. I'll be like, this guy's amazing. I find him so funny.

DanDan

It was you all along. Oh, my gosh. Because we're doing three films. Yeah. It does mean that we are not. I'm afraid. Sad to say. We're not having Bill Murray here.

GavGav

Oh, no. Yes, that's.

DanDan

There's no word of the change. But that is also partly because he did call me earlier and say he's been really freaked out by all this talk of flights and, you know, death, stalking him. And he just doesn't feel like he wants to get on an aeroplane and come over and do the intro for World of the Strange. And I said, look, we'll let you off this this episode. You can have a have the time off, you know, and we'll see you on the next episode.

So he's not coming over because he's a bit worried about death and he's had a vision and all that kind of stuff. So that's fine, Bill. Not a problem. Don't worry about it. Yeah, we'll let him off. How are you, Gavin?

GavGav

I'm very well, actually. Very, very, very well. Yeah, I actually found out in February here. No, April here near me. They've got a horror convention on. And I was like, what the fuck? Just literally found this out last night. I can't remember what it's called yet. I'll find out later on to tell people.

DanDan

A certain Bobby England might be there.

GavGav

Robert England is going to be there, presumably. But some of these events sometimes don't go ahead. They happen, does happen quite often with horror ones. I've noticed. Anyway, we're hopefully going to have a stall there. Deadbolt Films. But yeah, that's quite cool. But I'm fine. Got a flat, which is quite nice because I didn't know where I was going to be living, but I figured out where I'm going to be living. That's good. So I will have a new podcast in Premises coming up.

So that does include everybody because the audio, the ambience won't be different. It won't be exactly the same. Well, I don't know.

DanDan

I have no idea. Did you manage to get the place with the glass ceiling and the stripper's pole in the corner and all that kind of stuff?

GavGav

Couldn't get it. Tried for the dungeon too. Couldn't get that one. So just got a regular.

DanDan

That dungeon was really good as well. I love those stains on the wall. We just didn't know what they were.

GavGav

It's getting nice. I'm moving to a town. I'm actually moving to the town. After Alec Baldwin was in that movie Rust, and unfortunately the director of photography was shot and died, unfortunately. He was in a town really just two weeks later, walking around filming himself. I think people will remember it because they're all like, what the fuck's he doing? He's walking around town going, I love these sort of towns. I don't know who would live in these sorts of towns. Well, it's going to be me.

That's committed because that's where I'm moving to. It's actually quite close to a film studio, which made Jeepers Creepers 3, which apparently is really bad.

DanDan

It's not great.

GavGav

Yeah, that's like the studio very close to me, but not that means anything. Just a studio.

DanDan

Well, talking about Alec Baldwin, good segue there. Slight tangent, but as anyone who knows us knows, we love our hip hop.

GavGav

Is that Alec Baldwin's hip hop album?

DanDan

Yeah, it's finally... No, I've finished listening to the new Eminem album. I'm saying new, it's been out about a month now, but I don't have a lot of spare time these days. So I finished listening to it, and even Alec Baldwin gets dissed in one of the tracks. He talks about pulling out a gun and shooting at you like Alec Baldwin. And I just thought, whoa.

GavGav

I was thinking like in hip hop, I'll get back to that in a second. Just very quickly, this note on this. When they say pop a cap in your ass, any other word apart from cap is going to be odd with that sentence, isn't it?

DanDan

Pop a sausage in your ass.

GavGav

Exactly. Pop a Mega Drive in your ass. It's just weird, but it's odd.

DanDan

Pop a finger in your ass.

GavGav

It's just anything.

DanDan

That's what the doctor does. Yeah. Talking of hip hop, the other thing I just wanted to mention.

GavGav

Exactly. If you had Dr. J say, I'm going to pop a finger in your ass. Hell yeah.

DanDan

How's my prostate? Is my prostate OK?

GavGav

Hell yeah.

DanDan

Thanks, doctor. Can I get a hell yeah? The other thing related to hip hop, very briefly, because occasionally we do talk this.

GavGav

Sorry, sorry. Hang on. The outlaw building thing, what happened?

DanDan

He just got dissed. You know, he disses everyone. Bill Cosby, everyone. Anyway, I also listened to another new album this week. LL Cool J. He's got a new hip hop album out.

GavGav

Oh, really?

DanDan

It's produced by Q-Tip, and it is fucking brilliant. Really good, because all the tracks sound like a Tribe Called Quest songs from the mid-90s. And because it's Q-Tip producing every single one of them.

GavGav

How's his voice, do you know?

DanDan

It sounds great.

GavGav

It must be aged though. Is it deeper?

DanDan

Or LL?

GavGav

Yeah, of course.

DanDan

Sounds the same, to be honest. He's got a song on there. Funny enough, the reason I said way, he's got a song on there with Eminem called Murder Graham. And they rap really fast, taking it in terms of...

GavGav

LL Cool J has always been really good at rapping.

DanDan

Well, him and Eminem really go for it.

GavGav

I think he's overshadowed his rapping with his acting.

DanDan

But the video for Murder Graham made me realize what success Eminem has had as a white guy in the hip hop game. Because he's in a video with LL Cool J and LL stood on a car, an old VW Golf, like he would have done back in the day, and he's wearing the leathers and he's rapping about, I'm the guy wearing leathers back in the day with a panther on a chain, and all the kind of stuff that he used to do. And he's rapping like he used to, but a hundred miles an hour.

And you just got Eminem with him acting like the coolest guy ever. It's not even phased that one of the lords of rap, literally the gods of rap, is you're on his song. Because normally when Eminem collabs with somebody on a song, it's always, they're a bit overshadowed by Eminem. Do you know what I mean? But this time Eminem is the guest. Because LL Cool J is LL Cool J, do you know what I'm saying? But you should check it out. It's called Murdergram.

It's a great video and a really good song, really funky, weird song.

GavGav

I've got crews to Sarah's tomorrow, so I will listen to it amongst other podcasts.

DanDan

Yeah, the new album is good. It's called Force.

GavGav

Oh, cool, man.

DanDan

LL Cool James' new album Force is on Spotify right now.

GavGav

Ladies love Cool James.

DanDan

They do. The ladies love him. Shall we talk about what we've been watching and some horror and some horror news?

GavGav

It would be better if Jimmy Savile's LL Cool James.

DanDan

Fucking hell.

GavGav

Big battle, isn't it?

DanDan

I must have knocked you out.

GavGav

Can't do rap on radio. I can't do Jimmy Savile's.

DanDan

Fucking hell, what was that? I don't know.

GavGav

I must have knocked you out. I'm a bit unprepared when Jimmy Savile comes out of your mouth and thought, Oh God, that's not good. You're unprepared for it. You don't know what's going to happen. It never meant it. It's worse when you go, I can't do it. What's going on? I've lost my Jimmy.

DanDan

Oh.

GavGav

I'm glad.

DanDan

Well, there we go. We aren't kooky. Totally thrown you off course. That reminds me to thank Kevin, our patron, who said thank you for the episode and thank you for your kookiness. Yeah. Because we are kooky. We're crazy.

GavGav

Yeah. And I don't want to talk about Jimmy's half-all either.

DanDan

Right. Right. So listen up. Before we get into what we've been watching, I'm angry. I'm cross. There's been some news that's come out.

GavGav

You told me earlier and I was like, oh, talk about this in the intro.

DanDan

They're remaking one of our favorite films of all time.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Our favorite film, probably our joint favorite sort of horror comedy of all time, Gav. Remind our listeners what it is.

GavGav

The Burbs.

DanDan

The Burbs for Tom Hanks. It's fantastic. It's got everything you want in it from a family horror comedy. And it is horror. Say what you will. It is. Well, they're remaking it. Peacock. You've heard of Peacock, the streaming series in America and the sort of production company of remaking the Burbs.

GavGav

Well, before we get into it, like the Crow recently. Oh, God.

DanDan

It's not done well, is it?

GavGav

No, no, no. It's done very, very, very badly. It's lost a lot of money and it's come out streaming very quickly because they could try and recoup what they can. But the only reason that that property has been taking a long time going through various producers, whatever, was going to be done was because the first one's beloved. So they've just looked at numbers, not actual what people say and gone, oh great, the word, the name, The Crow is going to make us money.

So let's take that, let's do this. And it's just like, no, it doesn't need to be made again or another version or whatever it is. And it's the same with the burbs. But the burbs wasn't, the burbs was, it's a cult hit now. But what was it like when it came out?

DanDan

It didn't. It did okay.

GavGav

I don't imagine it was it. Tom Hanks was doing a lot more going into the family set. He was comedy at the time. It's got, you know.

DanDan

That was his first slightly more adult because he'd done Splash and Big. And then he did the burbs. This was so he made the burbs in 88. It was released in 89 and it did okay. It made its money because people would go mainly to see Carrie Fisher was in it. And it was an ensemble cast. You know, you had your Corey Feldman as well.

GavGav

It's quite off to the side. It's quite out there, isn't it?

DanDan

Yeah, people knew the direct term.

GavGav

So why are they bothering? It's not really like it's a property where you can see why they... What I'm saying is you can see why the crow was made. Yeah, well, even though they shouldn't have done it.

DanDan

Maybe when I read to the little description of what they're going to do with it, you might understand why they're what they're going to try and do with it. I think I think they're going to try and draw in here a little bit. I think they're going to make it a racial tension or something. So the only actor that's been cast so far is Kiki Palmer, who played the sister in Nope.

GavGav

Have you ever seen Neighbours?

DanDan

Yes.

GavGav

No, no, no.

DanDan

Not that it's traded so proper.

GavGav

Oh, the shorts Neighbours with the thing with Jiggy's died now. Baloochie, Jim Baloochie and Dan Aykroyd. They play Neighbours, rival Neighbours.

DanDan

Yes, yes, yes.

GavGav

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

DanDan

Yeah, Kiki Palmer is in it who played the sister in Nope, who was one of my favorite characters in Nope. So that's great. But this is what they're saying about it. Now, don't do bear in mind, all that's happened is they greenlit this and they've got an actress attacked. Attacked? Bloody hell, attached. She hasn't been attacked. Bloody hell. So it says here, set is going to be set in the present day and it's going to follow a young couple returning to the husband's childhood home.

But their world is upended when new neighbors move in next door, bringing old secrets out of the coldest act of light and new deadly threats will shatter their quiet little neighborhood. That doesn't sound anything like the burbs.

GavGav

No, no, no, and that sounds like your general sort of thriller movie, which I quite like that. It's your fright night. You're there's lots of films like it. Your rear window top sort of scenario. Why do they say it's going to be filmed in present? Well, the burbs when that came out was filmed then as well in the present. What are they saying that it's not going to be 1987 or 86 film? I've no idea.

DanDan

It doesn't even need to be a burbs film remake.

GavGav

They could just say, yeah, they're using a name.

DanDan

I've seen versions of the burbs. I've seen that movie with what's his name? Shia LaBeouf.

GavGav

I can't remember what it's called, but I like that.

DanDan

I don't know. Disturbia. That was good. And that's like the rear window or like the burbs. And you could say the burbs was almost a bit of a loose remake of rear window, maybe.

GavGav

But, you know, they're just using a name, aren't they?

DanDan

Yeah. But it's a weird name to use.

GavGav

But there's no point because it wasn't like the Crow, which was a massive thing in the zeitgeist, especially.

DanDan

Well, the thing about the Crow is it wasn't just the movie. It was a comic book as well. And then there's like three sequels in the TV series.

GavGav

Yeah, it had a thing going on. The Burbs doesn't. It's just going to piss people like me and you off. Yeah. Again, it's like what are you doing? But then again, it's Peacock. So it's just a streaming show. So it just goes back out on this on their channel. So I don't have Peacock. So I won't be watching it.

DanDan

So we'll watch this space and see what happens with that.

GavGav

I was gutted the other day. Went to watch the Monsters. I was like, I'm going to fucking watch Rob Zombie's Monsters.

DanDan

It's on 2B.

GavGav

I was like, I'm fucking going to watch it. I'm going to fucking do it. In a way, kind of was not looking forward to it, but kind of very for the first time ever, very open to it. I was like, yeah, I'm going to do it. I want to watch like a Rob Zombie PG thing. Let's do it. And it's not on there anymore. It's gone.

DanDan

Who plays Lily Munster in that one, Cuff?

GavGav

I'm not sure. Who is that? It's his wife, yes.

DanDan

Oh, fucking hell.

GavGav

Of course it is. I don't know. I always try and cast the same people in my films. I don't know.

DanDan

Well, talking of shit films.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

It's that time of the year. Every 18 months or so, this film comes into my radar and I watch it, because I want to love it.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Ghosts of Mars. I watched it again the other day.

GavGav

Yeah, I watched it again a couple of years ago. I went, this is shit.

DanDan

And I know in about two years' time, it'll be on the horror channel. And I watch it again.

GavGav

I get like 40 minutes in, I'm like, fuck this film.

DanDan

Because it's got that cast. It's got Pam Grier.

GavGav

But it's a weird cast. Jason Statham.

DanDan

Jason's got that terrible hair, before he started shaving his head.

GavGav

So he's got that really bad. And Pam Grier already directed by John Copter. What is this? An AI movie that someone's made on acid?

DanDan

Well, then you've got, Oh, who's hot right now? The girl from Species, Natasha Hennstridge. Get her in it.

GavGav

Yeah. Who else?

DanDan

Ice Cube? Get him in it.

GavGav

It feels like a producer's movie, doesn't it? Not a John Copter movie almost. But I don't know. I think he enjoyed it. It's a bit weird.

DanDan

But I want to like it.

GavGav

Yeah, but I watched recently his re-Village of the Damned, Sarah's Round. It was really late at night. And I was like, tell you what, we've been wanting to watch this for ages. Let's put this on one of Christopher Reeve and that.

DanDan

Yeah, I quite like it, man.

GavGav

But we started watching, we got about half way through and I was like, fuck it is. We were at the bed.

DanDan

Go on. We'll get around to it at some point. The thing, what I'm going to say about Ghosts of Mars is what I have realized is, I've come to the realization it is actually a loose remake, talking of loose remakes, a loose remake of an earlier Carpenter film, Assault on Precinct 13. It kind of feels like that really, except it's like weird zombie, pissed ghost Martians attacking them because they're in a little prison rather than. But it feels like a loose remake of that in some ways.

And I've seen that film done better by him.

GavGav

Makes me think of putting these on.

DanDan

Gab's currently sharing me his night vision goggles. That's not a euphemism.

GavGav

And I definitely haven't bought them to silence the lamb someone. It's not what's going on.

DanDan

Hey, Gladys.

GavGav

We can use them for a movie, but they're proper night vision.

DanDan

Sorry, I never say that word.

GavGav

The word is fine, but in a context like that, it's just not appropriate.

DanDan

It's Sir Anthony Hopkins that said that.

GavGav

It's not. You said it. Sir Anthony Hopkins once said it. Then you've gone and said it again.

DanDan

Do you think when the Queen knighted him when she was alive, and she was like, there you go, there you are, you're a sir now. And then she thought in her head, don't, don't. Sorry about that. Sorry about that, Your Majesty.

GavGav

I'm glad he didn't say it. To her. Stop it.

DanDan

Anyway, another film I watched, which came out in 2019, which I loved when it came out and I watched it and I raved about it. I think you hated it. And quite a few people hated it. I rewatched it again the other night and I love it even more now. And I've been determined for us to cover it one day. And that is The Shed from 2019. It's so good.

GavGav

No, it's not.

DanDan

I don't understand why no one likes it.

GavGav

Because it's shit.

DanDan

It's really not.

GavGav

It is.

DanDan

Why is it shit?

GavGav

I don't know. I'd have to watch it again and go through why it's so bad.

DanDan

It's not bad.

GavGav

I don't want to watch it again.

DanDan

It's a fantastic story.

GavGav

Sarah's got to buy it on Amazon. It's on her Amazon this because she can't get it off it.

DanDan

Two bullied boys. And they find something in their shed, which will help them with the bullies and everyone else in their lives. And then it gets out of control and it's brilliant.

GavGav

When you sold it to me originally, I was like, sounds fucking great. It is brilliant. What ratings it got on IMDb?

DanDan

4.8. Do you know what I give it?

GavGav

It's pretty high. 8. It's brilliant. Yeah, I know it is. I love you.

DanDan

You're so positive.

GavGav

You're so positive you are.

DanDan

I love bullies.

GavGav

Speaking of positive, I knew you would be. You watched Beetlejuice today, the new movie.

DanDan

Yeah, well, I've watched a lot of new films.

GavGav

I think it doesn't matter, even if it had been the worst movie ever, and Michael Keaton is sitting there jerking off in a chair, and you watch that for an hour and a half. And all that lovely treated food you ate earlier, you were probably so happy. Reclined in your big leather chair.

DanDan

Just because I have a positive outlook doesn't mean I don't say these films are shit when they're shit. Like I've just said about Ghosts of Mars and stuff.

GavGav

Me and you sometimes quite agree on a movie being shit, and it's always quite infuriating both of us.

DanDan

Yeah, that's shit. But yeah, I did watch Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, only today this morning.

GavGav

And you enjoyed it?

DanDan

Yeah, I'm a big fan of the original. It was a big staple in my family home growing up.

GavGav

It's a massive love film, isn't it? I'm not in the camp, but it's a massive love film.

DanDan

Probably my favorite Tim Burton film, sitting exactly the same level as Batman for very different reasons. But Beetlejuice is fun. It was only the second film he ever made, which is crazy, second feature film. And Michael Keaton, when Ernie Rider's first major film, everything about it was fantastic. And everything about it, importantly, was Tim Burton. It was weird. It was wonderful.

GavGav

Only in the 80s.

DanDan

It didn't make any sense.

GavGav

Probably got a lot greenlit.

DanDan

Yeah, with crazy soundtrack, lip sync scenes, and stop motion animation. Well, I'm happy to report that Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice is the most Tim Burton film I've seen since, I'd say, Mars Attacks. Because that was the last time he was allowed to just go nuts, in my opinion, and just do a crazy film with crazy stop motion and other stuff going on in it and musical moments.

And this happens in this one, in Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, there's stop motion animation, there's lip sync scene, there's a couple of music numbers I didn't expect. Michael Keaton is unhinged in this movie. Rina Rida looks like she hasn't aged today. Monica Belushi, General Tager was great in it. And I think she's going to grow to be a real screen queen, although she's obviously a grown woman. But I think the more she does, she's going to grow to be a real screen queen as she's older.

Catherine O'Hara, fucking, what's his name? Willem Dafoe is, almost steals the movie. Danny DeVito, you name it, it's got everything in it. And here's the crux, it's set at Halloween.

GavGav

Oh, cool.

DanDan

That is what the first one didn't have. The first one was just, they were going to call it Ghost House. It's just a spooky, comedy, slightly dark.

GavGav

What's the film about? I can't even remember what Beetlejuice is about. I've seen it the once, I think with you, and I wasn't into it.

DanDan

Well, Beetlejuice is a couple who are so happy, living in this dream home, and they die in a car crash. And then they realize they're trapped in the house. They can't get out of the house. Another couple, another family move in, we're knowing a writer's family move in, and they want to haunt them out of the house. They can't figure out how to do it, so they accidentally call Beetlejuice, who is a bio-exorcist, so he exorcises the living.

But obviously, they don't realize he's a demented demon, and then all hell breaks loose, and it's funny, and it's weird, and still, still.

GavGav

I was thinking I'll give it another go, the first Beetlejuice.

DanDan

It's on Netflix, on Netflix for the week. It's been taken off soon. The sequel, I can't really give too much away, because it doesn't show you a lot in the trailer. I can't really give anything away. I wouldn't want to spoil it, really, because they haven't really given anything away in the trailers, other than, Winona Ryder is a grown-up, obviously. She's got a daughter who's Jenna Ortega. There's a family funeral. They all have to go back to that house in the first film.

Beetlejuice comes back for various reasons, but there's a couple of really great twists in there, and a few things I didn't expect. And I had a great time with it, not just because I was full of sugar. It was just a really great film. And what's refreshing is it's a legacy sequel, which doesn't make any sense like the first one. It doesn't have, oh, we must make sure people understand the backstory of this character.

We must make sure that people understand the reason that this bit is happening now, 38 years later, is because it doesn't matter. It's just timber and throwing loads of crazy music and colors and stop motion and actors into a pot and going, if you like the first one, you're going to like this one. And that's it. So I think I'm not saying you're going to like it because you're not a huge fan of the first one. I think people who like the first one are going to feel safe that they're in safe hands.

And where I loved it was when I realized this movie is set at Halloween. Fucking great.

GavGav

That's cool. Yeah, because it's one of those things that Hollywood doesn't like to play it, they like to play it safe. They don't generally like to do things you don't know, because you feel comfortable going into something you know. So it's always nice when they actually let people who are creative be creative.

DanDan

That's why he quit filmmaking. He semi-retired Tim Burton because he made, he didn't really want to make Alice Through the Looking Glass, the sequel. He said he'd never do a sequel after Batman Returns, but he was forced into doing Secret to Alice, which didn't do well.

GavGav

The second one didn't do well. You won't have a career, you won't make another movie unless you do this film.

DanDan

Then he tried to his best with Dumbo by bringing in people that he loved and that he's worked with in the past, like Michael Keaton and Danny DeVito, etc. But sadly, the studio pushed him, pushed him, pushed him, and Dumbo came out not how he wanted. So he quit. He quit. He said, I'm semi-retired. Nothing's really ever going to get me back in the game.

And then he started to produce the Wednesday TV show, ended up getting talked into directing the first four episodes because he wanted to guide that show in the right direction. Because it makes sense that Tim Burton does an Adams Family type show. He seems like the kind of guy that should do an Adams Family film.

GavGav

Like Rob Zombie and the Muncers.

DanDan

Oh, fucking hell. But yeah, so after he directed Janet Ortega in the Wednesday show, he got his spark back. And the first thing he did was contact Michael Keaton and say to him, that script, let's finish it. Let's get it. Because Michael Keaton's helped with some of the writing of it. He had lived a lot of it as well, Michael Keaton. They got Winona on board. Winona was always on board.

Apparently, when she started making Stranger Things Season 1, all those years ago, and her clause right from day one has been, should Tim Burton require me to make Beetlejuice the sequel, you have to let me have time away from Stranger Things filming. And now they've let her have that because they're in the middle of filming the final season.

GavGav

I did, funny enough, that might make sense. I did hear an actual review of Beetlejuice, the new one, and they said that Winona's acting was like she's acting in Stranger Things, not like the person from the first Beetlejuice film.

DanDan

Yeah, because she's not a 16-year-old kid, I guess.

GavGav

I don't know, but they said it in a negative way, but whatever. Anyway, I'm glad you liked it.

DanDan

Yeah, I did. Talking of Halloween films, I saw another movie which is relatively new. It came out last year, but it's just hit Netflix in the UK called Cobweb, which is also set at Halloween, and I recommend it to you.

GavGav

I'm going to watch it.

DanDan

I also said to you to wait until October to watch it.

GavGav

Yeah, yeah, no worries.

DanDan

It's a great little movie. Again, I can't really give too much away, but it's about a boy that hears knocking in the walls, and then he hears a voice, and the voice guides him to do things which aren't always... Some of the things he does are quite violent, based on what the voice tells him. But then there's a bit of a switch halfway through, and it turns into a couple of different types of horror films, but it kind of works, in my opinion.

And the fact that it's all set at Halloween with pumpkins, and there's a real Haddonfield vibe, or even Trick or Treat, that kind of movie. It's got that vibe to it, do you know what I mean? It's definitely one for October to watch, so that's Cold Web from 2023. I've talked loads, Gavin. What have you been watching, my friend?

GavGav

Speaking of Halloween next month, that's quite cool, actually. This is next month. We're just trying to work out, of 31 and 31, you've got things you're doing. I don't think you're saying it just yet, though.

DanDan

I'm happy to say it, but...

GavGav

Yeah, you're doing the 31 Universal Films and Simpsons.

DanDan

I am, yeah. I'm going to do 31 Universal Monster Movies. I've picked the best 31 out of about, I don't know, there's about 60 Universal Movies. I pissed, pissed, I picked the best 31. And I'll be doing the Simpsons Treehouse of Horror, because I've never really seen more than one or two of those.

GavGav

Yeah, yeah.

DanDan

So a bit of a weird mix up for me.

GavGav

I might. I don't know, it's really hard. Whenever I put a label on it and then I start to put down the movies, it just doesn't happen. They don't work. Last year, I tried to do movies I've never seen, and I got to them, I was like, don't fancy watching it, no, don't fancy it.

DanDan

I remember. I remember.

GavGav

And it all went tits up. So this time.

DanDan

I'd say watch your favorites.

GavGav

Yeah, I think I'm going to go for my favorite films.

DanDan

Watch Hubie Halloween, watch the bird.

GavGav

I'm going to do Hubie Halloween.

DanDan

Watch the cobweb.

GavGav

I think I recommend it. I'm going to just do some of my favorite horror films.

DanDan

Make a werewolf, chuck a couple of class zombies in there.

GavGav

Did you see that bust I sent you on Facebook?

DanDan

Yeah, I did. This is a bust not as in breasts, everyone.

GavGav

No, it's a head sculpture of the werewolf with its big old red gummy jaws sticking out of the mouth. And it's actually...

DanDan

Life size, isn't it?

GavGav

Yeah, and the hairs are actually made from the hairs used from the actual one made in the movie. And they're selling it near me for 450 quid. And I was like, oh my god.

DanDan

Imagine buying that and then putting it in someone's house and when they come home late at night, and that's just...

GavGav

The thing is, I was fairly tempted, but I'm about to move into a really small flat. I'm just going to have this massive werewolf head just sticking out the wall, and I'm like, I don't know.

DanDan

Imagine a burglar.

GavGav

If Deadbolt already had... Oh yeah, let's shit him up, wouldn't it? If Deadbolt were at a studio set up, then in there, no worries, but...

DanDan

Yeah, that'd be one for the future, that one.

GavGav

I know. So I don't know. I was thinking of saying, 350? Would you take 350? I don't need it. I want it.

DanDan

That's like all the best things in life. You don't need them. You want them.

GavGav

Well, I'm really stripping down. It's quite good. I'm moving to even smaller place.

DanDan

Oh, you mean...

GavGav

And I'm getting more minimalistic. And but that's just all of a sudden, me just going, bought a fucking well-fed though. Yeah.

DanDan

Look, I've got rid of all those old socks. I've only got one pair more.

GavGav

Got a well-fed.

DanDan

Don't worry about it. Gav, you haven't got any furniture? Yeah, I'm doing this whole minimalistic living thing.

GavGav

Can I have it in your bedroom? When you wake up, it's just there looking at you. Fucking hell.

DanDan

Well, that's what... So in my attic right now, I've got a life-size blade, cardboard standee. And...

GavGav

Where's these knives in your lofts?

DanDan

On one side, it's Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker.

GavGav

Not Nick Nolte. You need a gay boozy. Hiding in the house.

DanDan

Well, on one side, it's Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan, Rush Hour of One.

GavGav

Really?

DanDan

And then on the other side, it's Wesley Snipes with a big sword staring at you.

GavGav

It's the shape of Wesley Snipes with a sword, the same shape as those two.

DanDan

No, it's a big square.

GavGav

Oh, so how did they magically do that? Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker doing the exact same shape as Blade with a sword.

DanDan

But I used to always have to, when I lived with like two or three people, I'd always keep it at the top of the stairs, but with Blade and the girls that we lived with would never want that, because when they got home late at night, the first thing you see is you come in the front door, you look up the stairs. Wesley Snipes! Wesley Snipes, sunglasses and a sword grinning down the stairs at you.

So I'd always get home, and it'd just be Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan looking at me, and I'd be like, fuck's sake, I'd have to flip it around.

GavGav

I was gonna say, well, if you had something really bad, and I was gonna go, and unfortunately, pulled me right back to Jimmy Savile again. Imagine Jimmy Savile cut out and they come home and he's just there looking at them. That'd be awful, wouldn't it?

DanDan

Jesus. Yeah, so I've got Wesley up there now.

GavGav

That's amazing. Why is he not behind you now? He's fucking brilliant. I don't know when else can see it but me, but it's just for my pleasure.

DanDan

Well, maybe I'll take him out next time. The kids will be like, what's this? I mean, that's Wesley Snipes. You'll find out when you're older. He's your real daddy.

GavGav

I have been watching Bits and Bobs here and there. I watched a movie with Sarah, a French horror spider movie called Infested. Not too bad. People in a lockdown wreck situation. But with spatters, lots of spatters.

DanDan

Yeah, it's getting good reviews.

GavGav

It's not too bad. Towards the end, I've got to start getting bored. But it's not too bad.

DanDan

Funny enough, it came out at the same time as another movie called Sting, which I watched and I would recommend to you. Sting takes place in a lockdown situation. Sting is set during a ice storm.

GavGav

It doesn't star Sting, does it?

DanDan

It doesn't. Imagine if it did. It was just Sting taking on spiders.

GavGav

Boy, Sting. Sting does self-track. Every bite I make. I'm a spider. Walking on the moon. Walking on the cobwebs.

DanDan

No, Sting is about a little girl in a bit of a fucked up family, and she's got a pet spider, but it's not a normal spider. I won't say any more than that. However, the apartment block they're in gets hit by a really bad ice storm, and they're frozen in, and they can't go out, it's so cold. So it's a perfect Gav movie. isolation, cold, snow outside. And then one by one, people in the apartment start disappearing.

It's also got some great arachnophobia and alien callbacks, and a couple of other Predator and a few other movies, but not just for the sake of it. They're little nods that are in there because the filmmakers are obviously, they love movies and they put these in there for the fans.

GavGav

Yeah, I will watch it, yeah.

DanDan

I recommend it. It's an Australian produced film, but it's an American. Okay, that's interesting. Really good, I enjoyed that.

GavGav

I also watched a film which is a contained film, which I like, and it's an aeroplane film, which I like. I do like a good contained aeroplane film. And it was in fact, it also had things going around. It was Snakes on the Plane.

DanDan

Oh, I thought you were going to bring up No Way Up for the third episode in a row. Every episode. I watched a film called No Way Up.

GavGav

Everyone's like, have I heard this episode?

DanDan

So you watched Snakes on the Plane? I haven't seen that for years.

GavGav

Exactly that. And I said, well, when I'm with Elijah, and he's in like in the kitchen straight living room, he's there as well. And he's like, he's watching YouTube, he's doing claim, he's just doing his own thing. I'm like, well, I put Snakes on. So I have to like, it's, you have to kind of judge what you're going to watch. As you know, as a parent, you know, and he's okay. I can, I can put on horrory stuff, but he doesn't like horror. He told me, I don't have attention.

He's like, I don't mind if I'm just dropped in. There's loads of gore. That's fine. He says what he doesn't like is attention to build up. And I was like, oh, fair enough. So I thought I'll put Snakes and Planks. He looks around, it's just gonna be Samuel Jackson going, what the fuck? So I was just like, I'll do. And I put it on and actually really quite enjoyed it. It's got a lot better than I thought. Well, I remember it being.

I think when it first came out, we all kind of just went Snakes and the Planks, because we were, I think, in the luxury of having lots of possibly good movies or movies that didn't have these sort of titles at that time. So we looked at Snakes and the Plank, we were like, fuck is that? And it's obviously, you know, it sounds like a cheap kind of beam movie. And I think it was a very early predecessor, because obviously Snakes and the Plank came out.

DanDan

And it had Samuel Jackson in it as well, do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

GavGav

Decent. And I think we kind of dismissed it as a culture when it first came out. Watched it again, kind of enjoyed it, got to the bit. I was like, I want Samuel Jackson, a load of snakes and a plane.

DanDan

They made a sequel, which I've never seen, Snakes on a Train.

GavGav

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, they didn't. Asylum made Snakes on a Train at the exact same time as Snakes on a Plane.

DanDan

Oh, wow, wow, okay.

GavGav

Because it was in War Wolves when we still had War Wolves in UK. And I was like, what the fuck is that? And the Snakes on a Plane had just come out in the cinema. Oh, and that was my first ever inkling of like, what is this? It was Asylum very early on. And it's like, like you said, it's like the first film that got all that shit going where we are now with like a shark documentary because probably of these sorts of things.

DanDan

Basically, what I do with my spare time watching Mecha Shark versus Giant Wolf Bear.

GavGav

So I think you should go back to the grand day. It's like Blair Witch or whatever.

DanDan

Well, we will go back. We've got it paired up with Cannibal Apocalypse with Ice Cube and Jennifer Lopez in Anaconda. So I think we'll be doing a snakes episode probably next summer.

GavGav

Yeah, it was just fun.

DanDan

A man gets bitten on the willy. I do remember a snake on the willy.

GavGav

I guess I haven't really watched much else, but speaking of fun though, I did watch some bits and bobs of Sarah, but Sarah and I did a whole day of the Final destination films, ones for this review. And I've got to say, the Final destination movies are so accessible because I didn't... I was just like, oh man, free reviews. As my brain and I have to move around, gonna take it.

And absolutely fine, because I didn't really do much reviews of the actual plot so much, because it's the same sort of plot really. I did just the kills, and we did that in all the free films in one day, and we fucking loved it.

DanDan

We had some snacks, some drinks. Hold that thought, then we'll come to that when we get into the movies properly. One final movie that I want to talk about before we go into our first review then. We both watched a brand new film by a director, Jeremy Solnayer, who is the director of Green Room, whom some of you may have seen about the punk band that gets embroiled in a big sort of horrible, violent riot. Have you seen Green Room? I'm sure, Gav. Yeah, yeah, long time ago.

GavGav

Patrick Stewart.

DanDan

That's right. Jesus, yeah, like Neo-Nazis and stuff. Well, that director has done another film. He's done a couple of movies, but he's done a brand new movie, which originally starred the lad from Star Wars and Attack the Blob. Why can't I remember his name? Can't remember his name now. But anyway, he pulled out and then Covid happened, this, that and the other. And eventually they got a new guy to play him. Aaron Pierre. And it's a film called Rebel Ridge, which went straight to Netflix.

But it's fucking great. And it's basically a modern day Rambo.

GavGav

Yeah, very much.

DanDan

With some John Wick elements, very small John Wick elements in there.

GavGav

Yeah, a lot less action than John Wick. It's not a John Wick type of film.

DanDan

But with a slightly, a slight racial tension in there, because it's a bit deep south, and he's a black ex-Marine.

GavGav

Yeah, it's playing with the John J Rambo thing of going to a town and not being welcomed. And it's playing on that. But then obviously, you can look at it and playing it on color a little bit as well. And it's really interesting because the main protagonist in it all the way through is just over the top polite.

DanDan

Oh, he's so calm and lovely to everyone.

GavGav

Because that's his training. He even says, I've never had a street fight, but this guy's like a fucking trains killers to be killers.

DanDan

He's an MCMAP, which is a Marine Corps for martial arts, something or other. He basically trains Marines to kill people with their band. And he can take you down, whether you're 10 feet away with a gun or whether you're in front of him with a knife, he can take you down, you know how to do it.

GavGav

It was a really enjoyable film and he's basically just in a, there's certain reasons. He's there, he's in a tent.

DanDan

It was very tense, almost too tense for me at times.

GavGav

And the main sheriff was great.

DanDan

With Don Johnson, yeah, he's good.

GavGav

There's a one point where he shits himself where he's just looking outside on the phone saying, Tell me what, what is he?

DanDan

Oh, thank god for that. What did he do in the Marines? MCMAP. What does that stand for? I don't know. And then they find out what it means.

GavGav

Oh yeah, but he's already tattent him. They find out what it is when they're tattent him outside.

DanDan

You want to put some distance between you and him immediately. And he's like, what? And he goes, I've just found out what it stands for before he can do anything. Boom, boom, boom. But yeah, I really recommend it. Yeah, if you guys like it.

GavGav

I'm a big fan of the action. Well, as a lot of people are, because people don't like the injustices of the world. So people like to get back. So we only have a lone soldier whose guy's, right, you've pushed me too far. I've been polite. Right. You're pushing me. And I like those films. I was looking for one the other night. Yeah, okay. I did watch another film. I watched Last Blood again. I really dissed it before. It's okay. It's okay. It's not bad. It's not bad.

I really dissed it when it first came out. I do apologize.

DanDan

Don't worry. I'm sure Sly doesn't mind too much. But yeah, that director, Jeremy Selniere, The Green Room, and he did another one called Blue Ridge, or something like that before. No, not Ridge. He did another one. But I really feel like he could do a great horror movie because he does incredible tension, and there's always really extreme violence in his films. So I'd love to see him do a horror.

GavGav

I found Rebel Ridge not forced at all. It just kind of played out. That guy was so... I put it to read in the book. You kind of sit down and just want to watch a film, kind of just let it unfold in front of you.

DanDan

Yeah, it was really enjoyable. The main actor was really hypnotizing, like really handsome. Yeah, he had pretty, lovely green eyes. And it's just this big black fellow that was just so polite. But then when you find out that he's a killing machine, you're like, ah, fuck. But then you want him to just take out everybody in the town, don't you? You're like, please get him.

GavGav

Oh yeah, I was watching, I was like, and he got pretty eyes.

DanDan

He has, he really does. He's hot. Yeah, anyway. Well, Final destination, save all your thoughts, Gav, because what we'll do now is we'll have a trailer for Final destination 3.

GavGav

Yep.

DanDan

And when we come back, we can talk about Final destination Franchise, get into that movie and its kills. And we're going to have some fun for the next couple of hours, guys. Here we go. Let's do some Final destination. Gav, you ready for a trailer?

GavGav

Let's do it.

DanDan

Pop a cap in your ass.

GavGav

Or anything else, which isn't a cap.

Trailer

The ones who got off that roller coaster are still going to die. Unless we can figure out how to stop it.

GavGav

I never thought I could see my own death before it happened. Final destination Part 3 from 2006, rated 15, an hour and 33 minutes. Wendy Christensen and a group of teens who escaped a fatal roller coaster crash, face a bloody date with death. Sorry, I don't have my glasses on, the text was a little smaller. Here we are, ladies, gents, everyone. Part 3, we're back again. Everybody knows what we're back for. It's the same as the last time, it'll be the same again after this.

DanDan

Yes. So you were, before we get into this movie, let's talk about this franchise very briefly. You were talking about, it's an accessible franchise, because you know what you're getting.

GavGav

It's a fun one, because, yeah, you know what, you come, it's like the reason Friday the 13th was popular for a certain group of people was, what's the kill going to be? So they'd go to the movie, seen how Jason would take people out. This is like, you go to the movie, because you want to see how elaborate the death sequences are.

DanDan

The same with Nightmare on Elm Street.

GavGav

It's so fun.

DanDan

What wacky dream sequence is Freddie going to get you with?

GavGav

When you know the formula, you know what it is, because this does a Tony Todd kind of loosely, but there isn't really like you, Robert England, Freddy Krueger or you Jason. There's not really a massive themed person, there's looseness. They know of the actual instance that happened in the previous films. In that universe, they've happened. So they sometimes mention them back and forth. Oh, once upon a time, there was an airport, this thing happened once before.

That's been mentioned a couple of times in these films. So everyone knows it, but what we're here for is which still feels like home. And that's what Hollywood likes. That's the Hollywood movies which are made and the ones which make you feel at home because you already know them. This film, even though it doesn't have that, it does have death, which is the weirdest protagonist.

DanDan

And they're liked by non-

GavGav

And people want death to do its thing.

DanDan

They're liked by non-horror fans as well, fans that are casual horror fans. Same with the Saw franchise.

GavGav

Accessible.

DanDan

Yeah. And with these movies, you know what you're going to get? You know you're going to get a big opening disaster.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

And then you know you're going to get lots of weird deaths.

GavGav

You're going to have a couple more big set of pieces, but you're going to have some small things. But I can even take the first one, I'd probably say, not like three or four or whatever, to my mum and probably say, check this out. And she'd probably watch it and go, oh, that was fun, wasn't it? Even it's that accessible, you know? And it's not like when you say a horror movie, it's not like it's going to be a zombie or serial killer, or you don't really know what's going to happen so much.

You know, people are going to die and in some really elaborate way, but we don't actually see a killer. There's not actually one person going around stabbing or doing actually any of the deaths. It's just death itself. It's such a fun idea.

DanDan

And that is what makes, in my opinion, elevates this franchise.

GavGav

You can make these forever.

DanDan

Yeah, because that's what makes them a little bit scarier, is that it's a presence. Rather than having a masked killer like most slashers or good franchises, it's a presence that you don't see. You know it's death, but death is inevitable. We all know that. And so therefore, whatever you're doing can get you.

GavGav

Poltergeist doesn't do it like this. But this just, I don't know what it is. You can't see it like you're saying. It's just really fun.

DanDan

If your number's up, your number's up. And if your number's up, because you've dodged the big event at the beginning of the film, you've got to then be paranoid for the rest of your life to try and avoid, you know, I can't have any sharp objects near me. I can't get a car, all that kind of stuff.

GavGav

It's pretty crazy. But what this turns into, these films turn into, for Sarah and I, I just came up to it with Sarah, I was like, fuck it, we could just rate all the kills. Then I was like, right, I'm fucking messaging Dan right now. Message you to say, can we rate the kills? Because really, this is the fun shit.

DanDan

So what we're going to do, guys, is we're going to rattle through three, four and five. We'll do them obviously in order. We're going to do three first. We will briefly talk about the plot. But what we're going to do is we'll talk about the kills when they come out. Each of us are going to rate them out of ten. And then right at the end, we've got a couple of other bits and bobs we want to do with regards to the franchise once we've done the fifth one.

But yeah, let's start with the Final destination 3 then. So we've done an aeroplane. We've done a highway motor car pilot.

GavGav

And everybody always, how many people put up a picture as the meme of the truck in front of you? And they always say, well, I'm not going out driving today, or I've sent the picture through to you saying, fuck it, what's in front of me? You know, I'm not driving at the same time. I'm a passenger.

DanDan

Well, this time it's a roller coaster. And there have been, we covered it a couple of episodes back, actually. We talked about roller coaster rides gone wrong.

GavGav

But imagine, though, when you're first time watching these in a cinema or whatever, and you go to watch this and you're just like, yes, it's a roller coaster. I suppose you'd seen a trailer, but you might, if you hadn't, you'd be like, yes, it's a roller coaster. That's going to be it.

DanDan

Yeah.

GavGav

You said Tony Todd's in this. My first note says no, Tony Todd. You said he does voice to you.

DanDan

He does the voice of the main ride.

GavGav

Kind of loosely in it.

DanDan

The devil's flight.

GavGav

He's not in part four though, is he?

DanDan

He's in all of them in some way. He does voices if he's not in them. In this one, he does the voice welcome.

GavGav

It's the end of the line. It is in it, but it's not really in it.

DanDan

Yeah, but it's still Tony Todd. He gets the credit.

GavGav

Tony Todd's cool, but I think that's bullshit, but must be busy.

DanDan

What a voice. Talking of voices, probably should mention we lost James Earl Jones, another fantastic voice in movies.

GavGav

I feel bad to say this. I thought it had passed a long time ago. I don't know why.

DanDan

He was in his 90s.

GavGav

Yeah, I just haven't seen him for a long time.

DanDan

The voice of Darth Vader, the voice of Hakeem's father. I'm looking for my son.

GavGav

Oh, of course, he was in the remake, wasn't he?

DanDan

The remake of Coming to America.

GavGav

Coming to America, yeah.

DanDan

Yeah, he was in that too.

GavGav

Yeah, so I saw him in that, and that was only two, maybe two years ago.

DanDan

Also played the lion King's father. He's been in everything. And his best role, in my opinion, wasn't Darth Vader. It was in No Retreat, No Surrender with Eric Roberts.

GavGav

Of course it was.

DanDan

But anyway, just talking of great voices, Tony Todd's got one of those voices too, and that's why he plays a coroner in most of these movies, or just as a voice somewhere in the background.

GavGav

Anyway, fairground.

DanDan

We're at fairground, and there are clues. There's always these movies. You're getting little clues, you know, close-ups of a screw that looks like it might be a bit loose, or close-ups of a breeze coming through an air vent, and all these little things. This is how death gets you. It relies on little tiny things, coincidences. And we meet Wendy, played by Mary Elizabeth Winses. You're a fan of her, aren't you?

GavGav

Oh yeah, I fancy her. Sarah knows it, Sarah, you do know it.

DanDan

Ever since that Thing movie came out, I think she's pretty cool.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

You were like, she's great.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

But yeah, I think this might be the first film I ever saw. And she's been in a few bits and bobs.

GavGav

Do you know she's a singer with Daniel Automator?

DanDan

Oh wow, that's brilliant. I did know that.

GavGav

I've heard stuff, not really my sort of thing, but Daniel Automator famously, like, you know, Dr. Octagon or loads of stuff.

DanDan

There's any other one person I want to mention from the cast, because they're mostly unknown people. But there is one actor in this who has got one of the best screen names ever. His name, his real name is Harry Balsack. Texas Battle.

GavGav

Oh yeah, it's a good name.

DanDan

Texas Battle. What a name. He sounds like a Native American, doesn't he?

GavGav

I reckon his parents own guns.

DanDan

I'm wondering if that's his real name or if he didn't choose that because he became an actor and he thought, I want to be called Texas Battle.

GavGav

Texas Battle.

DanDan

But it's up there with River Phoenix, isn't it? River Phoenix and Texas Battle.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Anyway, so yeah, here we go.

GavGav

And he got the main jock from Tucker and Dale.

DanDan

Oh yes, he's in that too.

GavGav

He's Mary's boyfriend, maybe?

DanDan

Yeah.

GavGav

One thing in this, they're sitting there, just chatting away in there, having some food and stuff. And one of the boyfriends just does a total upskirt photo.

DanDan

Well, yeah, let's come on to that. So this one thing this movie has different to the other movies is Mary Elizabeth Winstead, her character Wendy, has got a digital camera because it's 2006. And she does something different for this movie. None of the other films do this that I remember. She's taken a bunch of pictures from The Night of the Terrible Disaster. And when she looks back at the movies later, it's like the omen when he looks at the photos. Yeah, it is.

And she sees, oh, hang on, so in this movie, she's got ways to work out how they might die because on each picture, on each photo, there's like something that indicates how you might die, which is very interesting. And they never came back to that for four and five, but I thought that was quite interesting. But yes, you're right. Her sleazy friend grabs the camera and upskirts a girl.

GavGav

And her boy, the guy who's doing it, his girlfriend, his girlfriend, I'm getting confused then, his girlfriend's there. She's like, oh, don't ever. Sort of says stuff like Sarah said to me, if you did that, we would be having some serious words.

DanDan

They're going to break up anyway, because when he goes, when he's away, Erin's like, I'm going to dump him. So she knows he's a sleaze bag anyway. The girls that he took the photo of.

GavGav

And at this point here, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, it's fine just doing upskirts of people. No one was really too bothered.

DanDan

Well, they're called Ashlyn and Ashley.

GavGav

Nobody's bothered by it.

DanDan

No, well, they get their boobs out later on. They're fine with it.

GavGav

Yeah, but even the people around him, everybody, no one's bothered by the fact that he's taking photos upskirts.

DanDan

I think digital cameras are a new thing. There was a law that said when you first got a digital camera, for the first 12 months, you're allowed to do upskirts.

GavGav

It's actually only become illegal recently in the past two years.

DanDan

It's disgusting. Yeah. I was on a stag day once in Berlin, and I was sat on the grass.

GavGav

Did someone take a picture of your shorts? Up shorts.

DanDan

Six, six or seven of us lads all led down in a park. I had a drink because it was Berlin. One of the guys looked at me and he went, Are you a fan of upskirt, Dan? What? I went, What? He said, Are you a fan of upskirt? I thought, What the fuck kind of a question is this? And all the other blokes looked at him like, Why are you asking Dan that for? And I went, What? Why are you asking me that? And he went, Look over there. And we all looked trained.

There was this poor girl sat down, like, let down, with a tiny little skirt on. And I said to him, Why have you made us all look over?

GavGav

It's like a group of men all turn and look like savages.

DanDan

Luckily she didn't see, thankfully. She was facing the other way. But I just thought, Oh, the fuck's...

GavGav

Pack of wild wolves.

DanDan

Why ask me that?

GavGav

But hang on though, let me just get into this more. He's just like, a fan of upskirts. Because he's on his mind that much, so he doesn't know what other thing in the whole world to bring up as a conversation opener. You could say, have you seen the price of soap recently? It's gone down.

DanDan

That would be like saying to me, Oh, are you... Do you like red Lamborghinis, Dan? What? There's one over there.

GavGav

It is, it is, but this is like, do you like to not let people know that you were trying to look at their private areas and take photos of them? Do you like, not just into it, are you a fan? Like a fan club, like I've got posters on my walls. What the fuck?

DanDan

I know. Anyway, upskirt. Anyway, so yeah, we meet these people. There's two couples. Well, I just thought I'd have to bring that up. There's two couples. One of them is going to break up anyway. And we also have a guy called Lewis, who's played by Texas Battle, and he's really strong and he works out.

GavGav

Because he's called Texas Battle.

DanDan

And he smashes the hammer, you know, rings the bell and all that kind of stuff. He knocks the top off of it. And we hear the devil laugh, ha ha ha ha. That's Tony Todd. And the devil's laugh is on the ride that they're going to go on, called the Devil's Flight.

GavGav

But what does Tony Todd actually say? Is that later on?

DanDan

He says, welcome to Devil's Flight.

GavGav

Is that it?

DanDan

He says, make sure you strap in for what might be the last ride of your life or something along those lines.

GavGav

Is that the only thing he's in the movie?

DanDan

No, I think he says a bit more later on. I can't remember that.

GavGav

I'm not having this. I'm not having this. I'm saying he's not in the movie and I don't care what you say.

DanDan

Well, hang on. We need to talk about Frankie. Frankie Cheeks. He refers to himself in the third person.

GavGav

Does he? Are we sure of that?

DanDan

He's the one who thinks he's a ladies man.

GavGav

You got to remember, everybody, that I did go through three movies in one day. So, Gavie's little brain isn't always that good and it might get confused.

DanDan

That's your problem. But Frankie Cheeks is the pervy guy that tries to hang out with them all. And he tries to, like, perv on all the girls and ask them out on dates. And he wants to take videos of them.

GavGav

Oh, God, that guy.

DanDan

He said, come on, get your sweet butt cheeks out. I want to take a picture. And he's like doing all this horrible stuff.

GavGav

He's basically got a camera and he's just like before everyone's got a phone. He's just got a camera in everyone's face.

DanDan

Yeah, but make sure you flesh them titties when we get to the top of the ride.

GavGav

It's really like you're not going to pull a guarantee. You're not going to pull of what you're saying. But because of the way he is, he gets the camcorder knocked out of his hands, which is a catalyst.

DanDan

Yeah, so Wendy is our main protagonist. She sees lots of signs, just like all the people before her in the other Final destination movies, signs that something doesn't feel right. She just gets a feeling and her eyes drawn to a leaking fuel cable underneath the roller coaster ride and a screw that looks loose. And one of the barriers doesn't seem to be working properly.

And then Frankie's, creepy Frankie, pushes in with his video camera and disrupts death's flow, because they were supposed to all die on this roller coaster in a certain order, and because he's jumped in, he's going to fuck it up. But also, they're going to have to work that a bit later on. So yeah, there's some chewing gum stuck there. The guy says, no cameras, and he's still got his camera, and you're not supposed to stick your arms up in the air, as we all know the rules on roller coasters.

But the roller coaster starts, and of course, poor V. Frankie drops his video camera. His harness unlocks. The wheels jam. The camera lands on the tracks. The wheels come off, and shit hits the fan, because people start falling out.

GavGav

It turns lost, boys, when they're hanging on the train track, and they're all just dropping down.

DanDan

Well, first of all, one of the cars just goes flying off the ramp. See you later, mate, you're gone. Yeah, and then they stop upside down on the loop, don't they?

GavGav

Yeah, and then people just drop in.

DanDan

And you just see them one at a time.

GavGav

It's really cool. And it's not that long, really, because we then have Mary wake up as she falls and she freaks out.

DanDan

Well, just before that, we do get someone beheaded as well. And then Wendy falls. OK, she's she's about to die. But yes, then boom. So this is your back in the room moment. Yeah. So when they have a vision, I always call it a back in the room moment. And she's back and she says, whoa, whoa, whoa, this roller coaster is going to crash. The usual thing. I want to get off everybody. Let's get off. It's the hydraulics. And everyone sort of goes, all right, come on, then. Let's get off, then.

But and of course, they all get off apart from a few people and the roller coaster crashes.

GavGav

So it's the exact same set up as the say the first one, you know.

DanDan

What we should say is Wendy's boyfriend couldn't get off the roller coaster.

GavGav

Yeah, I don't understand that. He's like, can you let me off? And the two fucking teenage spotty employees.

DanDan

Oh, look at each other.

GavGav

Like, just go press that button and let the dude off. Like, why are you not listening to the customer?

DanDan

Well, he dies.

GavGav

He dies.

DanDan

That's that. So we've had our disaster and we've now had our survivors, six or seven people, various perverts and horribles.

GavGav

When this happens, like, say, the original, for example, I'm going to use that as my base level for the movies. The original, once the incident happens, you get the reactions. The first one's got more in-depthness to it than the other films, especially with character development slightly. There's a bit more with them because you've got Stiffler in the first one. You know? Yeah. So you've got all their reactions and it gets their reactions, seeing the plane crash in really on that.

This film, when it happens, the main thing happened. No reaction shots, it didn't really linger.

DanDan

Well, the first film, the plane explosion, when it happens for real, not in the vision, it's so less is more in a fantastic way because you only see the explosion from the airport and the glass blows out.

GavGav

It's really good.

DanDan

Yeah.

GavGav

And their reaction of that happening.

DanDan

We just hear the roller coaster crash, crash, crush and fire explosion.

GavGav

And that's lacking from it. I wanted to see a little bit more of that, but that's that's just my own opinion.

DanDan

Well, cut to about a week or two later. And Wendy goes to school at night. She's clearing out a locker.

GavGav

By the way, I did school that one just over all.

DanDan

Okay, what did you score that?

GavGav

I gave it a seven and Sarah gave it a 7.5. And that's out of a 10 for the whole, the whole incident.

DanDan

Yeah, I only gave it a five.

GavGav

Okay.

DanDan

Why about 10?

GavGav

It's gonna be really interesting to see what we feel like.

DanDan

Because it didn't really do it for me and it didn't tap into any. So the reason how I'm scoring them is related to whether or not it taps into any fears I have as well. As well as the amount of gore.

GavGav

For me, generally, it's gore and then tension. Some of them don't have any tension and it's literally boom gore. But the gore is good, but it's like there's no tension.

DanDan

Sometimes there's a blue balls kill, which I call them, which is where you're teased and teased and teased and teased, and nothing happens. And a good example of that is The Dentist in number two.

GavGav

Then it comes to something else. Yep.

DanDan

That is a blue balls kill right there.

GavGav

Well, let's carry on then.

DanDan

Okay. So yeah, I gave that one a five.

GavGav

A dude's talking to Wendy about the first film. Well, not really the first film, but what happened?

DanDan

Well, he says to her, you know, I heard about another incident, like you mentioned, to do with some kids that were on a flight, you know, and all the survivors, da-da-da-da-da. And she's like, well, I don't expect me to come to the graduation. He's like, what do you mean? It's like, well, I've just seen half my class killed. I'm clearly not going to come to the graduation. All right, cool. That's that. And then it's tan time.

GavGav

It's tan time. It's two ladies who want to get their breasts out and do some tanning.

DanDan

I love that their names are Ashley and Ashlyn. They're like the biggest airheads you've ever seen.

GavGav

They've been literally. You can almost read at the script and imagine what the description can you.

DanDan

And they walk in and you've got a not a sleazy guy, but a guy who can run in the place.

GavGav

Yeah, he's just like, yeah, whatever. And he's on the phone obviously dealing with some business.

DanDan

He's speaking his wife or something, isn't it?

GavGav

Other language and not really too focused, but they're regulars because they will even say, like I've been here last week, so and so, whatever. So they're kind of all aware of each other and he's kind of just like, yeah, cool, whatever. Just fucking go in. Just don't take the drinks in there.

DanDan

So they do take the drinks in there. And while they're getting set up.

GavGav

And he goes outside and just shuts the door, but puts a wedge there, so it's all right. And he goes outside. And he goes outside, he's on the phone and that's his way to get back in.

DanDan

Tube slowly squeezing away.

GavGav

What dickhead, with a heavy door, uses a tube of fucking toothpaste type thing?

DanDan

This guy.

GavGav

What an idiot.

DanDan

So while they're getting set up, we will come to them, back to them in a minute. While they're getting set up, we also get Wendy talking to her sister. She feels the breeze. The breeze of death's breath, death's breath, it's death's breath. And she's like...

GavGav

Kylie Minogue Popsole.

DanDan

She's looking at the camera and she realizes, oh, I've got pictures from the night of death. And she's just like, I need to buy her the camera, because no one's got cameras on their phones back then. She's like, all right, let me just empty the memory card. And then she starts realizing, I've got all these pictures of my dead boyfriend and all my friends. And then she starts realizing small details. The photos seem to predict everyone's death. Anyway, back to Ashlyn and Ashley.

They get their boobs out. They didn't want to do it, but the director made it very comfortable on set for them, apparently, and made sure there was hardly anyone there. And he said, look, trust me, because we should mention the director is none other than James Wong, who directed the first movie, came back to the director's one. And what's interesting is the director of the second movie directed the fourth movie.

So it was almost like they were having a battle between each other, one, two, three, four. But then somebody ran them to the fifth one. But yes, so the girls drinks condensation drops onto the electrics within there. There's a loose shelf. They put a song on the radio. What song is on, Gav, do you remember?

GavGav

Oh, I don't remember.

DanDan

Oh, look, it's the... Of course it is.

GavGav

And they're singing it, aren't they?

DanDan

Something that they always do in the Final destination films is have the music match up, will be ironic. Like in the first movie, you had John Denver singing Rocky Mountain High, when obviously John Denver died in a plane crash. So they always do like quite cool little things with the music. And that's why I really love this franchise.

GavGav

I'm sure John Denver would love that.

DanDan

John Denver, what a legend. So the AC comes on because the heating, she's put the heating up because they were cold. Well, that's because you're in your pants, you're donut, you're silly, silly girl. But the air conditioning blows, the coats over on a shelf, which knocks a shelf off. The shelf flips, lodges them into their sunbeds.

GavGav

They're locked, locked in.

DanDan

And then they get hot, they get cooked. They get hotter and hotter, and they basically fry. And it's really effective, nice sizzling skin.

GavGav

Kentucky Fried Woman.

DanDan

And the guy hears them screaming outside and smells the burning, but he can't get in because the tube of Suntown Ocean is empty, meaning the door is shut tight.

GavGav

And they burn, burn, baby burn. Yeah, double fry.

DanDan

What do you give this death?

GavGav

Well, by the way, there's a third silent partner in this, and that is Sarah, because I've got all of her scores as well. OK. So Sarah's a six and I'm a seven. What are you?

DanDan

I'm a seven. And the reason for that is this is the first double death.

GavGav

OK, I didn't think that, but I do like the whole picture.

DanDan

So yeah, yeah, I like the trapped in the build up. Good tension been done in other movies where someone almost fries or starts getting for even in lock stock. You know, but the fact that it was two of them, two for the price of one in this one and they tried. So I gave it if it was just one of them, I probably would have given this like a six, but because it's two girls and the set up like you said, and the roller coaster song playing just added to it also seven. Yeah.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Like that one.

GavGav

Nice.

DanDan

So it's begun.

GavGav

I've literally now got no other notes until the drive through and I've got my score for that.

DanDan

Great. Well, I'll quickly fill in that.

GavGav

So go for it. Yeah.

DanDan

We cut to a funeral, a funeral for all the people that died in the roller coaster, which is half the class. And Ian, we meet Ian, who's a bit of a weirdo in the school. And he kicks off a little bit and says, you know, why did they die?

GavGav

Why am I still alive?

DanDan

And all that kind of shit. He's a bit of a goth and he sort of storms off and gets walked off by two of the bigger lads, Lewis and somebody else. Frankie's there saying, oh, they were prime meat if it wasn't for me, trying to take pictures of them upskirt and look at their boobs. You know, they wouldn't have gone and got tanned on that sunbed, oh, it's just my fault. And they're like, I don't really think you're responsible for girls trying to look hot. Weird, pervert, fuck off.

Wendy and Kevin have a chat and she says, look, I want to tell you about this weird, dark presence I've been feeling. And he's like, well, what do you mean? And then as she says that, the wind blows and all the leaves blow around her. And he's like, oh, you mean that? If someone said to me, I've been feeling a weird presence around me and then suddenly loads of leaves started blowing, and I'll say, right, we're getting the fuck out of here. She says, let's have a look at these photos.

I've got them printed out on my 2006 printer. Have a look at these. And he's like, well, these don't mean anything. And she's like, no, it does. It means this shows us how we're gonna die. And he says, I don't wanna see my photo. I don't wanna see any of these photos. Let's go get some food. So they drive and they walk, they talk about the seating and the order that they were supposed to die in. And then they get to the drive-through. And the radio plays on its own.

And they're getting a bit freaked out. And then a runaway truck comes over the hill.

GavGav

You just see like, it's a good, it's fairly good setup because you got a drive-through and they are the ones just waiting for their food. And you got a car behind them as well.

DanDan

So there's a car in front of them and a car behind them. But then a lorry pulls up and a lorry pulls up to the side.

GavGav

Yes, they're kind of stuck. And there's in a distance coming down the hill, you can just see a bloke going, oh, waving his arms.

DanDan

He's not going, oh, like that.

GavGav

Oh, God, I'm in trouble. It's like a carry-on movie, oh, matron. And there's this truck just freewheeling, no driver going straight towards them. The guy, the couple behind actually see it, reverse and get the fuck out.

DanDan

Of course, surprisingly. The guy in front, he's beeping and we don't see who the guy in front is and he just flips them off without turning around. Like, fuck off, I'll get my burger and then I'll go. Don't rush me.

GavGav

Yeah, well, generally, I've never been at a takeaway and then takeaway drive-through and someone's like, starts beeping, I think. I bet it's a one-way truck behind coming for us. It wouldn't be my first thought. So yeah, he's flipping the bird.

DanDan

Yeah, and it turns out that it was Frankie, pervy Frankie Cheeks, who was in front of them. And they get out of their car just as the truck smashes into them.

GavGav

Good one.

DanDan

The motor of the truck comes, the engine block comes flying out with a little propeller motor bit on the front. And it just goes straight into the back of Frankie's head. Now, you don't see anything initially. Yeah. You kind of just see like a tuk tuk and then it's cuts away. But then we see because we see the aftermath.

GavGav

Now, I love that head coming off.

DanDan

I only give this a 5 out of 10. Oh, my description is aftermath is better than the actual kill.

GavGav

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. What did you use for it? Sarah's a 7.5.

DanDan

Oh, OK.

GavGav

And I'm a 7.

DanDan

The aftermath for me, if the aftermath had been, if the beginning bit had been as good as the aftermath, it would have got higher. But it was just the aftermath. It was really all I got. But it was good. Good to see that skull chopped up nicely. So that's Frankie Cheeks gone. That's another one of them off the list. And now they're starting to realize that Wendy is talking sense. This is where we meet our coroner. Tony Todd.

GavGav

Oh, Tony Todd is actually in it, in this one.

DanDan

Is he in this one?

GavGav

I don't know. You tell me. I've got no nights, really.

DanDan

Well, I've written here a coroner. They discuss whether their theory is correct. It's not Tony Todd. OK. Well, they discuss whether their theory is correct or not. They look at some photos and they're looking at, you know, Oh, Lewis is in this photo. There's a picture of him with swords above him. Oh, hang on a minute. He's at the gym working out right now. And there's a big set of swords at the gym that he works out because the team that they he plays for has got swords in the logo.

Oh, we better go there right now.

GavGav

And there's one bit. I've got a note here when the guy says, Tell me how do I die? Is it something up my ass? Why out of any way would you die? Do you think it's something up your bottom?

DanDan

Well, he says to her, I don't want to see my photo until it's time. Unless it's something embarrassing or is it really going to hurt? Or is it something to do with my ass?

GavGav

And she's like, Is it something going up my ass? Like, what?

DanDan

Well, people have died with things going up their arse, Gav.

GavGav

Why would that be the first thing you think of?

DanDan

That man with the horse? Remember that man that got raped to death by a horse?

GavGav

Why would that be your first thing you think of?

DanDan

Oh, I'd want to know about it if it was going to happen.

GavGav

Yeah, but why would you go there?

DanDan

I don't know. Some people like horses.

GavGav

I like all decapitation. Hopefully it's not decapitation.

DanDan

How would you want to go?

GavGav

If I had to be go, I had to choose.

DanDan

I had to be go.

GavGav

Had to be go in. If I had to choose a way to be killed. Do that quick and easy.

DanDan

You know mine.

GavGav

Fucking put it, I guess, put it to the head.

DanDan

I want a shark.

GavGav

A shark?

DanDan

I got to be a fucking shark killing me. Damn bone, taken out by a shark. You love shark movies?

GavGav

You could do like, jump out of an airplane, but that would be bad, because on the way down, you would be having some wild thoughts.

DanDan

I'd like to jump out of an airplane into a shark.

GavGav

Into a shark's got a gun.

DanDan

Fucking hell. A nuclear shark.

GavGav

A gangster shark from the 1920s with an atomic gun. And he's actually called Tommy. Tommy the Shark.

DanDan

Well, you're never going to make my death happen. If you can, that would be brilliant.

GavGav

Tommy the Shark is going to take you out. He's going to pop a shark cap in your ass.

DanDan

I cried the other day reading a story about a couple who were going to Switzerland to go into one of these assisted death capsules together because she's got the early start of dementia and she's been a dementia nurse her entire life and she knows how bad it can get. So she wants to go and die. And he said her husband, they've been married for like 45 years, her husband said, I'm going with her and we're going to die in each other's arms.

We've got a playlist set up and we're going to go and listen to our favorite songs and we've arranged everything for the funeral. They've done it all. They want to go out like that. And I was crying my eyes out reading this article like, man, they know what they're doing. And I was thinking, do I agree with that? I was thinking, I think I do. I think I do agree with that if people want to do it and they're of sound mind, do it.

But the picture of the death capsule was like a big futuristic bed with a cover over the top. And I just think, Christ.

GavGav

It's really dark man. You've really darkened this episode, haven't you? It's Final destination. That's not fun, is it?

DanDan

Jesus Christ. Well, anyway, let's go to the gym then. So they know Lewis is in the gym and he's in the and all these testosterone guys are in there going.

GavGav

See, a while ago, Sarah's daughter had a membership, gym membership. So Sarah's like, oh, I suppose I have to go with her. And Sarah's idea of the gym was this. Sarah now goes to the gym about two or three times or as much as she can a week, and she fucking loves it. It's like her new home. She fucking loves it. But it's because it's not like this. This is such a...

DanDan

This isn't really a gym. This is like the boys, this is like the boys gym locker where they work out after a football game at the school. So it's full of the boys who are all in the same team and they hate the opposition team. And they've got a big bear, like a pretend bear that they've got, that they all punch every time they walk past it, because that's the mascot for the opposite team.

GavGav

They're like, fuck the bears, yeah, fuck the bears.

DanDan

They're all doing that as they're working out.

GavGav

But I love it. This is when we get, when Mary walks in there, Wendy with the dude she's with, and they walk in there straight away, and they say though, which is great, because we're the audience, it's reinforcing it to us, the audience, us what we know already, and just letting us know it again, anything in here could kill him. And they're looking around at all the stuff that could kill him. And starting way, we're like, yes, this is why we're here for this film.

DanDan

There's like a wobbly bench, there's a radio with a loose plug, there's some water dripping near an electrical socket.

GavGav

This is why you could make these films forever, honestly.

DanDan

And then you got those two big swords up on the wall that are wobbling every time they do the weights, they're wobbling, and you're like, what's it gonna be? And they walk straight and they go, Lewis, you're gonna die.

GavGav

He's like, I don't die, I just win, baby.

DanDan

Yeah, I just win all the time, that's all I do. And they're like, no, no, you listen to us. Death is coming. It's taken out Frankie Cheeks. It's taken out this, that, and the other. You know, the two girls got fried. And he's like, no, man, I just win. I just win. And he's benching so hard, benching so hard that those swords chop down and they miss him.

GavGav

And he's like, woo!

DanDan

He goes, see, I win, baby, that's all I do. I just win. And then he pulls the weights down, not realising that those swords have cut the cables. And when he pulls them down, the two heaviest weights you've ever seen go...

GavGav

Crush his head.

DanDan

And explode his head.

GavGav

Wow. Sarah and I both gave it a 6.

DanDan

8.5 out of 10 for me.

GavGav

Well, for me, it's not enough build up for me, intention. It was just the gore.

DanDan

Yeah, but for me, it was the testosterone. It was like the release. He scored it high because it was just a throw. All this shouting and then it just ended with a massive explosion.

GavGav

The muscly sweaty men, was it?

DanDan

It was like a big cum shot at the end. After all that testosterone build up. And the fact that he shouts just before he died, I just win, baby. And then his head exploded. Plus, it tricked you. You thought it was going to be the swords, but it was actually the weights that killed him.

GavGav

I misdirect. I don't, definitely not. I don't put 4 of my books, but yeah, yeah, okay, cool.

DanDan

My favorite kill so far, that one.

GavGav

All right.

DanDan

All right, then. So next up, we are going to the DIY store that Ian works at with the other chick. And they're there together. They're sort of packing up for the night. Ian's killing nails.

GavGav

This is-

DanDan

Pigeons with a nail gun.

GavGav

It's funny, because they've gone there. We know that whoever they've gone to see, we know is about to die. Bless them. It's like, don't come, ring me up. Don't come visit me. Whatever you do, both of you stay the fuck away from me.

DanDan

It's like whenever Jessica Fletcher goes on holiday somewhere. Yeah, don't do it. Why does she come to this city?

GavGav

That's why I want to do the ultimate episode where Jessica Fletcher is the killer.

DanDan

Yeah, you find out that's why. I mean, let's be honest. Everywhere she goes, someone dies. It's got to be her.

GavGav

That's what I'd do. If they were under the merge, she wrote a movie. Nowadays, that's what I'd do.

DanDan

With the use of AI in years, you can do that. And Columbo will be the one hot on her heels everywhere she goes. She's always pulling up going, Jessica, you're here again.

GavGav

Why? So they're at this warehouse of these two who are working late. Which is quite funny. At one point they go, we're just going to knock off for work now. Yet the next scene is they carry on working. And they're still doing some more work. What are you doing? You said you stopped working. Regardless, they're at this big warehouse going around. No one else is there. So somebody, they're just stacking shelves or whatever.

But this has got a massive build up because we're at the whole time, we're like, any of this shit can happen now and they could die. So it's a really big build up here. But it's very subtle.

DanDan

It's a huge Home Depot store full of every tall and sharp object.

GavGav

Pigeons, little bastard, he could just shoot them away.

DanDan

His boss has told him to kill them.

GavGav

And he's got a big nail gun, so straight away, I'd fucking hell.

DanDan

I hate pigeons. I'd kill them with a nail gun.

GavGav

All right, all right, calm down.

DanDan

Pigeons and seagulls, I don't mind killing them.

GavGav

I tell you. Okay.

DanDan

I've hit two pigeons in my life. I threw an apple at one, because it was trying to get my sandwiches. And I told it several times and it kept coming over and I bit one bit out of my apple and I launched it and it hit the pigeon. I felt great about it. Pigeon flew away and left me alone. And another one flew up in my face and I swung my fist and I sort of ended up doing like a bit really camp slap on this pigeon.

Because I realized my fist was about to hit it and I didn't want to really full on punch a pigeon. So I opened my palm and did like a camp slap.

GavGav

He stroked a pigeon. Get away.

DanDan

That's my two fights with pigeons I've had. Anyway, anyway, that's enough of Dan's animal cruelty back to what they're so yes, everything can kill you. They show them the photos. They still don't believe her. They said, look, we don't know the order yet. We're trying to figure out who else was on the roller coaster and who wasn't and where people were sitting. We can't figure out who this person is.

So because of some stuff they've done, a chain starts unraveling, something falls off a shelf, a forklift truck starts up on its own and it starts slipping around on some spilt oil. Then a hammer knocks the lever and Ian gets saved from a falling shelf. But it's a misdirect because the other girl lands on the fucking nail gun and she gets an amazing death with...

GavGav

It's pretty good. Just that looks good. But when I said build up, it wasn't really in your face. It's very subtle. So I didn't like the fact that there's not much build up. But that visually, she looks like a fucked up pinhead.

DanDan

Yeah. And I give that 8.5.

GavGav

So I gave it 6 and I gave that a 5.

DanDan

Oh, the reason I gave it so high is because it looks so painful because it's not just a one and done. It's like six or seven nails to the back of the head coming out the front.

GavGav

It's too short of a kill for me and it wasn't enough tension.

DanDan

I really, really, really liked that one.

GavGav

So we've got different, different likings.

DanDan

That's fine. We're different likings. So now they say, well, who's next? And Ian's obviously pissed off. That was his girlfriend. So he said, oh, maybe because it skipped you, it will go to somebody else now. So let's all go back to our own houses and chill out. And Wendy talks to her sister and she realises, hang on a minute, the person in the rollercoaster in the photo was wearing the charm bracelet. That was my sister. So it was my sister that was on the rollercoaster. So she's next.

Where is my sister? Oh, she's a sort of a weird cosplay, LARPing war thing with fireworks. Great. Let's go there then. So we're heading there now then. And, oh, Kevin says, all right, I'll meet you there. Before you hang up, what's on my photo? And she said, your face looks like it's all sort of burning or on fire. And he goes, yeah, does it look like there's a firework going off in my face? And obviously there's a huge amount of fireworks at this LARPing event that he's at.

So he's thinking fireworks is how I'm going to die. Cut to the event. Ian is stalking Wendy. He's very annoyed that she let his girlfriend die, and he wants to kill her, really. You know, if I kill you, then, you know, why does my girlfriend deserve to die, and you don't? And he's sort of doing that whole thing. And the LARPing begins cutting straight to someone knocks a cannonball, the cannonball rolls down, knocks the fire display over, it faces a slightly different way.

The horse gets spooked by the fireworks.

GavGav

Why would you have a horse at wireless fireworks? What a fucking dumbass shit that is.

DanDan

Dumbass.

GavGav

Dumbass shit.

DanDan

Well, it runs, it grabs, it accidentally catches Julie by the foot, which is Wendy's sister, with a rope, drags her along. Kevin manages to cut the rope with a sword just before she gets dragged into some spikes. But then Perry, who is a girl that we've never met before, is impaled on a flag. I mean, apparently she was there on the ride. She gets impaled on a flag. I didn't bother writing that one, really. Yeah. Give it like a five.

GavGav

Yeah, Sarah and I both gave it a five. So we're all... Actually, that's the first one. We're all same school.

DanDan

It wasn't that good. But Kevin survives. Some flames explode in his face near the barbecue. And he survives. Runs off. So he didn't die in the way he thought he might. Ian starts chasing Wendy. Some fireworks miss Ian, and he's sort of like, Ha!

GavGav

Ha! Fuck you!

DanDan

And then a cherry picker...

GavGav

Yeah, never do that. Have they not seen Creepshow 2?

DanDan

Lands on him. And that was another 8.5 for me, that one. It was a high one.

GavGav

Sarah and I both gave it an 8.

DanDan

Because you think it's going to be the fireworks. And out of nowhere. And it's a really good gore.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

And out of nowhere as well.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

It reminded me of the boy who comes out of the dentist at the end. And then out of nowhere, that plane of glass just splats him. So yeah, that's a really good kill as well. So some great kills in this one. Five months later, Gav. I love the ending of this movie. They're on a subway train. And she hears a busker singing the song that's kind of haunted her throughout the film, which is that, someone is behind you, someone's following you.

And then she sees 180 written on the wall and she starts feeling the presence of a line. Then she hears the conductor on the train say, ladies and gentlemen, it's Tony Todd. This is the end of the line. Remember to get off the train. You're like, oh, it's Tony Todd's voice. She doesn't know that. She just thinks, oh, there's a creepy voice telling us what's the platform.

GavGav

That is the creepiest conductor.

DanDan

Why is he saying it in that way?

GavGav

Mind the gap. Fucking hell, get someone else doing it.

DanDan

And then she randomly bumps into her sister on this train.

GavGav

What are you doing here?

DanDan

She says, oh, that's all right. She says, oh, it's okay. Don't worry.

GavGav

Come meet my friends.

DanDan

We're all safe as long as Kevin isn't on the train. Oh, Kevin. He's like, oh my God, what a coincidence. We're all on the same train.

GavGav

Weird.

DanDan

And then we see a rat chew through a cable, the train derails, and everyone gets splat, splat, splat, splat, splatted.

GavGav

Epic deaths. Epic deaths going on here. Score wise, what'd you give that?

DanDan

This last one, it gets like a... It's hard to see what was happening so much, so I'd probably give it an eight.

GavGav

Sarah, I have both on nine.

DanDan

Ooh, it's good.

GavGav

That's our best scored so far.

DanDan

It all happened so quickly.

GavGav

It does, but it's some good epic ones when it went on, yeah.

DanDan

And then it ends with Wendy on the track.

GavGav

Of course it does.

DanDan

And she's like, oh, I'm going to get out of here. And then, and back in the room. And she says, not again. And then, yeah, that's it. It's the end.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Great movie. Good sequel. James Wan coming back to the franchise.

GavGav

Yeah, really good still, yeah.

DanDan

And I like that they do two things here that they've never done before. The camera, you know, we didn't go into that very much, but when you watch this movie, you realize they're looking at all the photos, they're figuring out, they're using that as a way, but they never came back to that in the franchise. And I really like the ending, where you, which is five months later, which is quite a long, long, long from a lot of the other movies in the franchise.

And that feeling of like, oh shit, my sister and Kevin are all on this train. Ah, for fuck's sake. They thought we'd got away with this.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Love it. So that's Final destination 3.

GavGav

Yeah, pretty good movie. I do quite like that film.

DanDan

Thumbs up, thumbs up, thumbs up, definitely.

GavGav

Totally. Well, let's just jump straight into it. So I'm a trader for Final destination, the Final destination. Yes, because it's the last one. It's part four, but it's the Final destination.

Trailer

It's the last one.

GavGav

It's the last one, guys. So magically, we're just gonna make up a film to review for the next one, because it doesn't exist. All right, check out the trailer. Hey, how old is this place?

Trailer

You got me. We're fine, that's why they built the fence there.

DanDan

We have to get out of here.

GavGav

We're all gonna die, all right? There's gonna be a crash. Have you lost your mind?

Trailer

You saw it before it actually happened.

GavGav

We're alive and so are a lot of other people. I keep having these visions. I see how the next person was gonna die. What do you mean, the next person?

Trailer

Survivors and the accident.

GavGav

What if we weren't meant to survive?

Trailer

What's gonna happen to us? I think we can stop it.

DanDan

The Final destination from 2009, Hour and 22 Minutes, just a little one, this one. Directed by David R. Ellis, who directed the second movie. A horrifying premonition saves a young man and his friends from death during a racetrack accident, but terrible fates await them nonetheless. Nonetheless, I love that word. There we go.

GavGav

No turning side. It's gone through all the cast members.

DanDan

Great arse death in this one.

GavGav

Arse death? Yeah.

DanDan

Great arse death.

GavGav

Okay.

DanDan

We'll get to it. So it's a bit of a NASCAR track, this one.

GavGav

It's a nice set up. Straight away, when you saw it, you're like, oh nice. I don't mind the main sort of protagonist in it. We've actually got a kind of guy who's our person. We're kind of following around. He seems likeable enough.

DanDan

Oh my god, he's the worst actor I've ever seen in my life.

GavGav

Yeah, not the best actor.

DanDan

He's a terrible actor.

GavGav

The thing is, though, it does come down to the director who's watching it and saying, this is the performance I want. And if they put this out and they only go, yeah, that do.

DanDan

To be honest with you, most of the people in this film, this film, I'm just going to share my comments now. It's a good film for a Final destination movie, but it's my weakest out of the five. And it's mainly because of the acting. But at the same time, this film is more of a comedy than any of the other ones are. The second one had a lot more comedy, comedic elements in it, but this one is definitely leaning more into comedy.

So maybe that's what I maybe should be thinking about, because it's not a serious film, but I just felt like the acting was terrible in it. But this was the first film where they went to 3D. They thought, I know what people want to see. They want to see Blood and Guts fine at the screen in 3D.

GavGav

We had that 3D resurgence for about three years. Funny enough, didn't we? Really, it was thick and strong. They were coming. Oh my God.

DanDan

That was my nickname.

GavGav

Then the TVs came out. The 3D Blu-ray players you could buy. And then, you know, Ben Deadbolt Films. He's got a T.

DanDan

He says he's got Predator. I know, he voted you over for Predator, didn't he?

GavGav

Yeah, and I haven't done it yet, so I need to go around and watch Predator around there.

DanDan

But... The fifth one was in 3D as well. So the fourth and fifth Final destination are in 3D, if you want to see them, if you did want to see them. But yeah, here we go. So we get to meet Hunt, who is a cunt.

GavGav

It's not... Yeah, it's not a good...

DanDan

He's not great, is he? No. And Nick, the two lads, and their girlfriends, Laurie and Janet. And they are at this NASCAR sort of race style thing.

GavGav

Go away with they. Nazi town.

DanDan

Yeah, there's some not very nice people here. There's a nasty racist guy who doesn't like George, the security guard, who's a black guy. There's one woman who's described in the credits, her character name is Milf. She's the tampon mom. She's the tampon mom. We'll come to her in a minute, with her little boys and her husband.

GavGav

Actually called racist, yeah, Milf.

DanDan

Yeah, he's called racist. There's mechanic. They didn't want to name them anymore.

GavGav

Racist wife, cowboy.

DanDan

Mechanic, mechanic's wife. Milf's husband. Yeah.

GavGav

Milf's husband.

DanDan

They're all in there. But yeah, the only characters that really named are George, Hunt, Janet, Nick and Laurie.

GavGav

I'm in the movies in the cinemas this weekend. Oh, nice. What are you doing? You're still acting. Yeah, yeah, totally. What are you doing? I'm kind of a background actor, really. I'm not, you know, in it. OK, what do you play?

DanDan

What character are you?

GavGav

Milf's husband. Oh, at least you're playing someone's got a hot wife.

DanDan

My little cousin's in a new horror film. He plays a tampon kid too.

GavGav

I play a racist, racist wife, racist wife.

DanDan

I play the cowboy. Someone's called cowboy because that's the guy that says, Oh, sorry, ma'am, am I in the way?

GavGav

There's one called girl on top. What do you play? I'm labeled as girl on top.

DanDan

Girl on top.

GavGav

On what? You have to watch it. Water gun, brat.

DanDan

Yeah. So our four people are here. Nick, sorry, Hunt, as I've said, is a word that rhymes with his name because he's a bit of a boozer and he's also a bit of a ladies man, even though he's got a girlfriend. And he's just a bit of a bit smarmy and not very nice. And he's got some binoculars that he can drink booze out of. They're not real binoculars, are they?

GavGav

Oh, and he's smart.

DanDan

And that guy says, hey, can my girl use your binoculars? And he's like, she's like, I want to drink too. And she knows what they are. And then they see a mum, the milf, put tampons in her kid's ears because the noise of the race cars is so loud. And they're like, oh, that's so funny. And then there's some cracks in the building appearing. And he's like, how old is this stadium? And then there's some oils, some spills, some litter, some blows.

And the litter that lands in Nick's lap is like a memorial leaflet that says, remembering all the drivers that have died over the years at this racetrack. It's fucking hell. And then a car flips, catches fire, people run. A woman is cut, a couple gets cut in half, the racist couple get cut in half by the bonnet.

GavGav

It's quite an epic thing. I can imagine the producers like having a heart palpitations when they read the script first of all. What do you mean a car track? So it's a little bit CGI here and there. Yeah. It kind of spoils it a little bit, but it's quite a big epic thing to try and do with Practical though.

DanDan

An engine block lands on a girl, someone gets a spike through the mouth, loads of cars piling up still.

GavGav

It's all right. It's nothing amazing.

DanDan

Some kids get crushed under cement, and they're back in the room.

GavGav

I did score it. Sarah gave it a four, I gave it a five.

DanDan

I gave it a five.

GavGav

It's nothing amazing.

DanDan

Now, I must say that this incident is based on a real life disaster. So just to give you a bit of background, in 1955, Le Mans, which you would have heard of, there was a disaster, a terrible disaster. They had the 24-hour Le Mans endurance race, but there was a multi-car collision, which launched an engine block and the hood of a car and other wreckage into a crowd of spectators, killing 84 people in total.

The deaths included spectators being cut in half by the flying hood, so that actually happened in real life in 1955. An engine block crushing about a dozen people as it went straight through the crowd. Imagine the speed. And it just took out like 12 people and an explosion and a fire, which added to the death toll. They estimate 84 people in total died, not to mention several hundreds more who were injured. That was 1955, 70 years ago almost, 69 years ago.

GavGav

Can you imagine the health and safety there has probably lapsed?

DanDan

Oh, it's f**k all. In 55, there was f**k all.

GavGav

We've got this. So what are you going to do? The blood of the cars went to people. We've got this stuff called cardboard.

DanDan

There was still black and white bathrooms back then in parts of America. They weren't looking at health and safety. They weren't caring about that at all. But yeah, I just wanted to let you know that a lot of those deaths we've just talked about that actually happened. They based this incident on that, which is pretty sick, but also not bad. Well done, Final destination, for getting some of your facts, right? So Nick says, oh my god, I just had a premonition, guys. We need to leave.

They're like, what the hell are you talking about? He goes, cowboy's gonna sit there. Tampon's gonna be in the ears there. Racist guy's gonna say this. And he predicts, and they're like, well, how did you know that? So I've just seen it all. So he leaves and a few stragglers end up following him out. And they have a bit of an argument, and the racist guy's like, you people are out of your fucking, no, his girlfriend says, you people are out of your fucking mind. What happens to her, Gav?

GavGav

Oh, a tire just out of nowhere just kills her.

DanDan

Comes flying over, because there's a huge explosion.

GavGav

I quite like that, because the racist guy is getting, what are you fucking talking about? I like the fact that right then, well, you could shut up. You've been shut up.

DanDan

Because Hunt says, well, this is what I'm here for. I'm here for the explosions and the death.

GavGav

What did you give the tire?

DanDan

8 out of 10, because it was really out of nowhere. Shut her up, because she was mouthing off, and also unexpected. She deserved it.

GavGav

So it's 4.5 or 6.

DanDan

Good gore as well.

GavGav

Yeah. And credits. Roll the 3D credits.

DanDan

Oh, I love these credits.

GavGav

I love.

DanDan

So we cut to some credits, which are like the new Immortal Combat games, where when you do like a death blow, it zooms into like an X-ray of the skeleton with a crushing and skeletons breaking and everything. And you get this like heavy metal music playing, and it's pretty epic, pretty sort of NASCAR. I quite like it. It makes me sort of get in the mood. It's one of the few things that made me realize because this is my weakest out of the franchise, but I like the credits and the metal.

And I guess this is where I should realize this is kind of like a bit like Friday the 13th, part six of this franchise.

GavGav

Friday the 16th.

DanDan

Friday the 16th. What happened on Friday the 16th? Bought some bread.

GavGav

Just ran out of milk, went down the shop.

DanDan

So they go to a cafe called the Death and Death by Caffeine shop. Great. And they're all saying, Nick, what happened? Was it a dream? You know, and he's like, I don't know. I can't explain it. I just...

GavGav

At this point, it reinforces here to me how important casting is in films. I don't really care about any of these people. obviously, I'm only one democrafe out of many. But I don't care about these people. There's nothing here. Mary Elizabeth Winstead, yeah, well, we all know my feelings about her. But there was other people I care about, you know, not cared, but invested in more.

DanDan

Well, sadly, the one that stands out really is Hunt, played by Nick Zano, the dickhead. He's the one that stands out because he plays it really well. You know, everyone else is pretty bland.

GavGav

But he's not supposed to be liked anyway, is he?

DanDan

No, no. They ask Nick, you know, was it a dream? Should we go to the memorial? Are we the lucky ones? Why are we the survivors? Da da da. All the usual stuff that we've seen in the other movies. And of course, they do go to the memorial later on. So for everyone that died at the event, so they get back to the stadium, and there's a few people there crying, and Nick and Laurie are there, and...

GavGav

Someone's saying the N word.

DanDan

Yeah, well, we'll come to that in a sec. So the tampon one comes up, the MILF comes up to Nick and says, I want to thank you for, you know, you saved my boys and me and my husband by getting us out of there. And he's like, oh, that's all right.

GavGav

Does he look like a MILF? He's pretty hot.

DanDan

Okay, I don't remember. And then the security guard, George, comes over, who's a black guy, and he says, yeah, I want to thank you as well.

GavGav

Oh, yes, we had a racist.

DanDan

And then the racist guy whose girlfriend's head got exploded by a tire. He just walks over and goes N-word, walk on and calls them a few other little things as well. And then Nick, quite frankly, says, whoa, what the hell? Jesus Christ. I don't know what to do. If I ever heard someone say it like that, right? I'd just be like, I'll probably take their head off. But they're like, sorry about that. And George is like, don't worry about it. He's used to it.

He's not, for fuck's sake, another racist redneck. You know, if you're going to be a black guy being a security guard at a fucking NASCAR event, you are going to have unfortunately some dickheads saying stuff to you. Nick has some dreams that are in 3D, which I've put lol because the graphics, the CGI is weird and terrible, just terrible. When he's having these dreams about spinning things, flying at him and-

GavGav

Well, I don't remember this. I must have just completely phased out of this.

DanDan

And he wakes up and he goes, Whoa, I've just had a really strange dream. Like a vision of the future. And it's like, oh my God, could you not have done a different take? Get another take. What's the director doing? Really bad. See, I'm not always positive, Gav.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Cut to the racist, because that's his character name, drunk in his pickup truck. He's ticking all the boxes. He might as well have a MAGA hat on as well. But let's not get political.

GavGav

And have a pig in the back.

DanDan

Yeah. He's driving around.

GavGav

They eat your pets.

DanDan

The immigrants, they eat your cats and your dogs. Let's move away from politics. So he's driving around, listening to his metal music, drinking beer, just crashing his pickup truck into everything that's around him. And he's like, I'm going to go to that black guy's house. I'm going to do something terrible to him. And now George, bless him, one of my favorite characters in this film, he couldn't be, they couldn't have made him look any more wholesome in this scene if they tried.

He's in his pajamas. So he's a security guard, big guy, but he's in his pajamas at home, reading a book on his sofa with a glass of milk. He gets a phone call. Oh, hello, mum, why are you calling me so late, mum? Okay. And he's been really lovely. His mum's called him for a catch up at late at night. And he's reading his book in his pajamas. And outside, you can hear the racist sort of smashing along, you know, and then he says, times up, but then loads of different shit happens.

The truck sort of, I don't really get it, really. Some oil spills out of the truck, a fire starts. He slips, the racist slips on the oil, gets caught by his foot on the truck as it drives on its own. Then he catches fire and poor old George runs out into the street because he hears all this screaming to see a man being dragged on fire.

GavGav

But this though, I was looking at this as in I didn't, Coup Cuts Clan wouldn't do, they'd drag people along by horses.

DanDan

They did do that, yeah. No, they did do it by cars as well. Yeah.

GavGav

And I thought it was a play on that. And I quite liked the way they did that actually. Okay. Yeah. But is it for that, for death, what did you give that death?

DanDan

I only gave it a 4 out of 10.

GavGav

Sarah gave it a 5 and I gave it a 6, but I gave it a 6 because of the fact I liked that transition.

DanDan

It was a flip.

GavGav

The white guy being pulled.

DanDan

Yeah, it was definitely that.

GavGav

So I scored a 4 for the racist getting it, for being racist.

DanDan

Yeah, and George has seen it, so he's really now, he's in the club now of OK, maybe I'm in Def Club. Maybe I believe Nick now.

GavGav

Can I be in Def Club?

DanDan

So Laurie and Nick see the news. A racist man was dragged behind his own pickup truck today. And he says, I dreamed about that. I dreamed about a hook and a pickup truck and a racist. I dreamed about, oh, did you? You're acting's great. So he has another vision with more clues. And she comes in and she says, well, how do you know it? And he says, because when the death is coming, I feel a presence. It's terrible acting. It's so bad. It really took me out of it, his acting.

GavGav

This film just doesn't pull me in. Like the other three films before, one, two and three, this is the weakest so far.

DanDan

Cut to the tampon kids.

GavGav

The kids who survive.

DanDan

And they're throwing stones at a guy who's trying to fix his lawnmower. And he's like, why don't you dumbass, you stupid kids. Yes, and their mum's like, well, here's some money. Fuck off down the amusement arcade for an hour and let me get my hair done. Because I'm going out with the girls tonight.

GavGav

And they're like, great.

DanDan

And she gives them like a hundred dollars. They're like, whoop, whoop. And they run off. And she walks in and they're like, well, look, your beauty, whatever your guy is, is not here. She's like, but I really need my hair and my nails done because I'm going out with the girls tonight. All right then. And cut to close ups of a million things that could kill you in a beauty salon. Scissors, nails, being scraped, a wobbly fan above your head, lotion being spilt, loads of stuff.

And this is a good death because this is like very much like the dentist from Final destination 2. So many things and you're sort of stuck in a chair and there's so many things around you that you're like worried about, just like in Final destination 2. Even the lawnmower outside, you're thinking, is it going to be that? Is the stone going to get caught in the, you know, what's it going to be? And the fan, the fan falls off the ceiling, but it misses everyone.

The kids slip on the spilt drink and the spilt lotion, and then it's a blue ball's death because we've been built up and built up and built up and built up. And then the mum turns around and she says, I've got my eye on you too. And then the lawnmower flicks a stone up in the air, straight in her eye and at the back of her head, boom, she's done and dead.

GavGav

Yeah, yeah.

DanDan

But I only gave it a 5 out of 10.

GavGav

I just said, so interesting. Sarah gave it a 6, which I thought was interesting, and I gave it a 4. So between us, we've got the whole range there, 4, 4 and 6.

DanDan

And the reason for that was the build up was better than the execution. In my opinion, it was a really good build up and then it was just like, it was all right, it just didn't do it for me. If her head had exploded a bit more, I'd have been like, yeah. I was really hoping the kids would get killed in some way.

GavGav

Lovely. Then we cut back to our unappealing protagonists who I don't care about. I have no interest in waiting for them to get killed.

DanDan

And they say, well, did you hear that Mrs. Milf has died as well now? So that's what she's called. And Nick says, I've been having visions.

GavGav

Of a bucket or something.

DanDan

And they're like, well, what are your visions? And he tells them about Flight 180, that he talks about Final destination 2. And then he says that people got off the freeway, and he says, oh, there was also a roller coaster incident. All this kind of stuff. tensions get very high. And Hunt says, well, fuck this. If we're all gonna die, then I'm gonna die doing what I love. Get inlaid. See you later, motherfuckers.

And he just jets off out of there to go and get laid and get partying and get drunk. Even his girlfriend, Pint. So Nick and Laurie go to the racetrack and he says, I need to remember the order of the death, the people that died. And George is now the security guard. And he says, don't worry about that, mate. I've got the CCTV of it.

GavGav

Oh, come on, look at this.

DanDan

And I'm like, fucking hell, you've got the whole thing on CCTV, George. He's like, yeah, let's rewind it and watch it. So they watch all the different deaths unfold. Surely, the police would have that videotape. George has just got it. He's got access to it. And they work out that the mechanic is next. Oh, we forgot about the mechanic. Who's the mechanic? Don't know. He just credited his mechanic. All right, let's go visit him then. And the mechanic works in a Pimp My Ride garage, doesn't he?

GavGav

Yeah, with exhibit.

DanDan

Lots of danger there. Sparks flying, dangerous machinery and hydraulics and gasoline and all this other kind of stuff. They literally turn up and go, You're going to die next. He's like, What the fuck? I'm trying to get on with my life. You know what I mean? And they're like, No, no, you're going to die. And his boss says, You need to get these guys out of here. There's a lot of dangerous machinery in here. Get them out. And he's like, All right, all right. Takes them outside.

And they said, Look, this is what's going to happen. You're going to die. We've lost these people. And it's the order of the deaths that happened in my vision. And then a van comes flying at him and almost crashes him. Doesn't. And he says, You see what I mean? I'm cheating death, baby.

GavGav

I'm cheating death.

DanDan

But then a spanner hits a gas canister, which comes flying out of the garage. And basically cheese grates him through the fence, the wire fence.

GavGav

With 3D, that probably looked excellent.

DanDan

Yeah, it's good.

GavGav

Good. That one Sarah and I both gave out a 5.4.

DanDan

Seven for me. I like a good cheese grater death.

GavGav

Do you like the Resident Evil one at the beginning?

DanDan

Yeah, I do. It's good. I've never seen that before and I quite like that. And that happens in another Final destination, I think, where someone gets cheese grated, potentially. Anyway, they discuss who's next. Is it Hunt or is it Janet? We need to figure it out. One of us get hold of Janet, the other one get hold of Hunt. Now, Hunt is at a swimming pool, He's such a twat. having sex with a lady. Janet has gone to a dry cleaner. A pigeon shits on her windscreen.

So she's like, for God's sake, I'll have to go and get my windscreen washed.

GavGav

Just get out of the car and get a cloth and wipe it off yourself, you fucking idiot.

DanDan

It's a lot of poo from one pigeon, isn't it?

GavGav

It is a bit, but you don't need to go car wash.

DanDan

Yeah, come on. So they tried calling her and she's not picking up her phone because she's driving.

GavGav

Human hybrid pigeon flew by, did a big wipe poo.

DanDan

The moth man. It was the moth man.

GavGav

It's the pigeon man.

DanDan

And there's a good call back here where Nick looks to his right when he's in the car and he sees Clear Rivers Water Supply. And Clear Rivers was the character from Final destination 1 and 2, who ended up locking herself up in the mental asylum in the second one. So played by Ali Lata. So that's a good call back. But something in that triggers him and he thinks it's going to be water that kills them. They're both going to die by water. Oh, my God, we need to go and we need to go and do something.

So Hunt has a bit of a spat with a kid who squirts him with a water gun at the swimming pool. He bursts the kid's Lido and hides the water pistol. But that triggers some unfortunate events because the pool drain turns on.

GavGav

See, this is super yucky and I go and carry on.

DanDan

Yeah. Well, we'll come back to that because we go to Janet then.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

We're juggling two deaths at once.

GavGav

I did like the fact that this is the first time actually editing wise in all the films that they adjust the position or cut in between two kills and build it up to two. First time editing wise, I've done this.

DanDan

And because he's had a vision that it's water and one's at a swimming pool, one's at a car wash. So like, why is it going to be both of them? Or is it going to be one of them? So it's actually very good. Probably the best moment of the film.

GavGav

It's good. They can go either way. It's misdirected quite easily. Or go for both. So it's quite good.

DanDan

George and Noriko to find Janet in the car wash.

GavGav

It's good for pacing anyway.

DanDan

There's some faulty bits and bobs in the car wash. Sparks fly. She gets trapped. Her bloody sunroof opens and the car starts filling up with water.

GavGav

This is just ridiculous. And then her head gets stuck. It's the most dumbest fucking thing ever as well.

DanDan

But they showed you that her sunroof was broken earlier.

GavGav

Yeah, so her head gets stuck out of it, but it's still filling up with water like she's having a fucking bubble bath.

DanDan

But she's heading towards one of those like really strong brushes that's probably going to take her face off.

GavGav

I know. Well, I was looking at this car as well. What car is this? And there's no make or model. I think they had that car specially made.

DanDan

Yeah, they wouldn't like Nissan or whoever would be like, I don't want to be.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

That's not us.

GavGav

So there's no badge in it or nothing. It's really odd.

DanDan

So she's picture it, if you will, ladies and gentlemen, it's essentially a car with a woman's head on the top.

GavGav

Just going along.

DanDan

Full of water, about to get her face scraped off. Then cut back to Hunt who gets hit with a golf ball and it drops his lucky coin.

GavGav

Earlier on he was a cunt and took a kid's water gun, just put it in the bin. So this is like his calm of being a cunt.

DanDan

But he drops his lucky coin and it rolls into the swimming pool, gets sucked into the drain. So he goes down to retrieve it and his butt gets stuck to the drain. Now this is an urban legend where we've heard people getting stuck to the drains, you know.

GavGav

I never saw this one in an urban legend movie, but yeah.

DanDan

You know what I mean?

GavGav

But it should have been.

DanDan

Yeah, and his butt gets stuck to the drain. So now we've got him stuck underwater, potentially drowning with his butthole stuck to the drain, sucking him in.

GavGav

And her head stuck out a fucking car full of water. It's so silly.

DanDan

Laurie and George, they crash into her car and they push it backwards.

GavGav

The car's electrics would fail if it's totally full of water. It would just, you know, I'd admit the sunroof would definitely stop, but the car should probably just not work.

DanDan

But it's on the...

GavGav

It's on the pulley track though as well.

DanDan

Well, they save her anyway, so she's all right. But we cut back to Hunt, whose, you see his back suddenly crush.

GavGav

Oh God.

DanDan

And he gets sucked inside out.

GavGav

I couldn't look. I had to look away. It's too gross for me.

DanDan

And then you see the drainage machine outside on the top of the swimming pool. This is the fountain of blood comes out.

GavGav

This is like whatever that thing was. I've put it out my mind now. You made me live watch Yum Yucky thing, wasn't it? I don't remember what it is. Don't remind me.

DanDan

OK.

GavGav

Some word of the strange thing. I forgot what it was. I hope everybody watched the video.

DanDan

He's the guy with his grandma. Oh, yeah.

GavGav

I hope everybody watched long of that to get more, you know.

DanDan

So so Hunt basically sucks inside out into the drain and the last thing you see, and amongst all the splat is his coin drop on the ground. Now, OK, what did you give it? Now, this is an amazing death, but I only give it an eight. And the reason why it would have got so much higher is if they'd gone down the alien resurrection route where you saw him, you know, an alien resurrection when it gets sucked into the window and you see it go...

GavGav

No, I don't remember that film.

DanDan

Yeah, you do. Alien resurrection at the end when the baby alien hybrid thing gets sucked into the... What the hell? We covered it. Sigourney Weaver, come on.

GavGav

I put it out my mind.

DanDan

What an earth. Well, anyway, if you'd have seen more of him getting sucked into the drain, this would have easily been the best death in the whole franchise. But because you just see a little bit of his back get sort of sucked in, it's still an 8 out of 10, though, because this one is an awful way to go with your butt stuck to. And also, it's a call back to number three, where the guy says, it's not going to anything to do with my butt, is it?

Well, in this one, somebody does get a butt, a butt death.

GavGav

Sarah gave it 7.5 and I gave it a 5 because it's too yucky for me.

DanDan

Oh, you should score higher then if you.

GavGav

Yeah, if it scores and watches horror, yeah, and it is horrific for me. But no, I didn't watch most of it because I looked away because it's too yucky. I don't like it.

DanDan

Why? I thought it was brilliant.

GavGav

I don't know, I'm a bumhole being things pulled out of it. I was thinking, this is what made me start thinking about horror. Did you like, is there a different reason some people like horror movies for a certain reason, because they've had things that happened to them or it's their most fears, I suppose.

DanDan

You know, and that's how I've rated some of these, you know, for me, that's what we were saying earlier, it's psychology in it. You know, even when I take my kids swimming on the weekend, when I go past the drain, I always think, what would happen if my hand got stuck in here, you know?

GavGav

Now, we cut to a really funny bit. Now, for me, this just made my little mind tickle with laughter as I went off in a little world, imagine in a scenario where George, they cut to, they go round to see George, and he's been trying to hang himself and he can't. I wet myself at this point.

DanDan

Yeah, this is like Groundhog Day, isn't it?

GavGav

It's like, do now cut to the montage, because it starts off all day long, trying to top himself or his different scenarios.

DanDan

Well, it starts off quite dark because they get to George's house and he's hanging from the rafters. And you think, oh no, George, what are you doing? And he's like, because earlier you found out, you know, my wife, he killed his wife and kid in a drunk driving accident, I think it was. And so he's always feeling terrible about that. And, you know, he's, I'm got nothing to live for. And then like they get him down. He's like, for fuck's sake, I've been trying to kill myself all day.

What do you mean? He says, well, I've tried everything. I drank, I took loads of pills. I threw them up. I put the hose pipe in the car and the car cut out. I just can't kill myself.

GavGav

I just want to see that montage.

DanDan

Or even with the music from Kirby Enthusiasm every time we try something. Boom, boom, boom. So yeah, he says, I've been trying to kill myself all day. Nothing works. And so maybe saving Janet has destroyed the list. Am I immune? Am I able to live forever now? And he says, maybe we should have a toast. Toast to life. So he gets out some apple cider and they will have a nice toast.

GavGav

We're all going to live forever.

DanDan

We're invincible.

GavGav

Don't buy some fucking fancy booze if you're toasting to life. Come on.

DanDan

Nicky and Laurie say, well, we're going to go on a holiday now. It's packed for our holiday. Laurie says, well, I'll just pop to the cinema with Janet and do some shopping as well.

GavGav

And says, we're going to watch a chick flicks in 3D. I was thinking, a chick flick in 3D?

DanDan

I was thinking that.

GavGav

What is that going to entail? Oh, let's go shopping. In 3D. What's the point?

DanDan

I don't know what a chick flick would be in 3D. How would you do it?

GavGav

I don't know. Trying to get that boy. Oh, I'm going to make him to be my boyfriend in 3D.

DanDan

It's right in my face. It is.

GavGav

It's pretty shit.

DanDan

Ryan Reynolds buttocks in my face. Sorry, I was just saying that out loud. Yep. So, yeah, Nick has another quite... My notes, let me read them to you. At this point, Nick has another, quite frankly, ridiculous 3D vision. It's really bad. You must remember his vision here, where it's like a screen saver from a Windows 98 PC. These things spinning around, and he's like, oh, another vision.

And then he hears on the TV, and this is a great spanner in the works, and they haven't done this before in the movies. Ladies and gentlemen, there was another survivor from that terrible car incident. It was the cowboy. No one knows his name, the cowboy. He's in hospital. And they're like, oh, that's why we can't die, because there's somebody else on the list. The cowboy. He's in an intensive care unit. So let's go see him in the hospital.

GavGav

This fucking inept orderly.

DanDan

Well, there's a poor old fella who's on a bath host.

GavGav

He's got racist as well, hasn't he?

DanDan

Yeah, he is.

GavGav

We killed your kind in Vietnam.

DanDan

I'm Chinese.

GavGav

Same difference.

DanDan

Oh, nice.

GavGav

That's so fucking small minded, isn't it?

DanDan

I'm trying to help you.

GavGav

So small minded. Unfortunately, this happens.

DanDan

He lifts him up in a bath house though and leaves him there.

GavGav

He puts him in his bath on a winch. And then also says, oh, go do that. Just runs off, doesn't think like a fact. Maybe turn them taps off and this old guy just sitting there going, hey, it's flooding.

DanDan

The bath is overflowing and it's probably a ton of water.

GavGav

It's such a funny death.

DanDan

And it starts dripping down through the floor and the room below has got the cowboy in it.

GavGav

And in fact, in writing, they just had old guy that they said, you need to make a reason why this old guy is going to probably die as well, because, like, you know.

DanDan

I don't think he dies, though, you just see him.

GavGav

I think it's just got a reason that he's not very nice. Let's just get him in there and give him a racist line.

DanDan

He's got to be called old racist or something. You can't even see him listed, but he must have a credit of old racist or something like that. Have a look. Bedman or something like that, he'll be. But yeah, the water drips down onto the cable of his face, which wakes him up a bit, but also makes him slip out of the bed. And then, oh, I've written here then, the most ridiculous moment of the film. I'll wait till you've looked him up.

GavGav

I can hear you, keep going.

DanDan

Okay. So the most ridiculous moment of the film now is when, is when Nick and the remaining survivors are in the lift with complete strangers.

GavGav

What score do you give?

DanDan

We haven't done it yet.

GavGav

Oh, we haven't got it yet. Sorry. Apologies.

DanDan

So this is my biggest gripe of the film. Nick and whoever else is in the lift, and there's all these doctors and strangers in front of them in the lift. They can hear every word they're saying because they're in a fucking lift, yeah? And Nick says, We have to get to him because he's next on Death's List. And they're like, Oh my God, we need to save him. Because if we don't save him, then Janet did it. And they're like describing the potlice.

GavGav

Is it supposed to be made of humor for the other people? And they have to be like, What's this? Is that supposed to be in the nut comical?

DanDan

But none of them, they just all ignore it. Like they can't hear it.

GavGav

Yeah, it's weird.

DanDan

Ridiculous fucking moment.

GavGav

No one but it's not a good film this one.

DanDan

Anyway, the bath crashes through as they open the door. They're like, Hey cowboy. And then the bath just crashes down and absolutely annihilates him. It does. Two out of ten.

GavGav

Oh, Sarah and I both give it a six.

DanDan

Don't see anything.

GavGav

Don't see any blood. Don't know.

DanDan

You knew what was happening. It was you could see it coming a mile off. Two out of ten. Awful. Janet and Laurie are shopping. And Laurie sees some signs. Oh, there's a crane. There's some men working on. Feeling that funny feeling again. Outside, George is running along and he says, Oh, got that weird feeling that my wife says about. And Nick says, what do you mean? He says, deja vu. You know, my wife says, when you've had the... Ambulance takes him out. Seven out of ten. Love it.

GavGav

Oh, me and Sarah both on a two. Two out of ten.

DanDan

There was like the bus from number one.

GavGav

Yes, just...

DanDan

Came out of nowhere. And because he was describing, it was because he was describing deja vu as well. Which the line apparently was going to be, my wife always says, used to say, cause she's dead, if you have deja vu, that means you're in the right place at the right time. But he didn't get to finish the line cause the ambulance just took him out. And he gets killed again later on when...

GavGav

We got such contrasting scores.

DanDan

That's cool though. That's cool. Have a look. Then we get a weird moment now. This is why this film doesn't really work. Cause this construction site isn't really anything to do with them. It's just for convenience of the plot really. But there's this construction site basically, where these guys are like working behind the cinema, where the girls are going to end up. And there's a few little sparks and embers.

GavGav

It's got a good set up.

DanDan

Yeah, but it's also nothing to do with... It's not like they're in the Home Depot store or... You know, it's just for the sake of moving the plot a lot, or it doesn't... I do have my gripes with this film, really. But anyway, there's a great red herring where her lace gets stuck in the escalator, and you think...

GavGav

Colorful fish.

DanDan

Yeah, colorful fish. You think, oh, she's gonna get pulled into the escalator, but she doesn't, she managed to put it out. Then they go in the cinema, and they watch that movie in 3D. And there's a great moment on there where there's a bomb in the movie that they're watching, and he says, three, two, one, time's out, suckers, or something like that, and then the bomb explodes. What they don't realize is behind them is an actual explosion.

And just before that happens, Laurie hears all the similar dialogue that they heard at the racetrack, like, oh, it's a bit loud, or can you move your foot, please? And this, that, and the other. So she hears the same dialogue that they heard by other people, and she realizes, oh shit, something's about to go down. And the explosion happens, but then a real explosion happens, which goes through the screen and kills Laurie.

She is impaled in the face with nails and gets a big pole through her stomach. I give that a six out of ten, because it's like a double kill, really.

GavGav

Sarah and I both gave it a six.

DanDan

Oh, perfect, 666, nice.

GavGav

We all gave it 666, so it's nice to have that. I like the fact that if they're watching a 3D movie, and all of a sudden they actually came out of the screen and killed it, it would be quite fun.

DanDan

Yeah, I thought I liked that.

GavGav

I knew it for a few seconds until you realized, oh, this isn't 3D.

DanDan

Those nails look really good. I feel like I really feel the pain of the impaling.

GavGav

Your brain would be really tricked and confused. We've got a shopping center next.

DanDan

It's a bit like when you and me went to watch the Ghostbusters 2018 movie, and we were in those chairs that move in the cinema. We had those wobble chairs.

GavGav

Why did we get them?

DanDan

Because they were the only seats we could get.

GavGav

God, it was that...

DanDan

And we were just like wiggling around. Now and again, when the really bad jokes were being said.

GavGav

I can't believe we went to cinema. I can't believe we gave that guy money to make the movie.

DanDan

Five D or whatever it was.

GavGav

His new movie, Paul Figg, I think it is, is with that John Cena on Amazon Prime. And the trailer looks awful. And it's like the trailer doesn't explain what this is. I saw something in the other movie and I was like, Oh, you made that Ghostbusters movie with no one on it.

DanDan

I saw something today that said...

GavGav

How does he make movies?

DanDan

Someone today said, I like Paul Cena, John Cena, but I've just seen his new film, that one you were just talking about. And I do wonder how he keeps getting work in films, because he's not a very good actor.

GavGav

Well, it again comes down to the director, but is that director?

DanDan

I think he's alright in some roles.

GavGav

Again, it's Hollywood not knowing what the fuck they're doing.

DanDan

After she's impaled the shopping center, the shopping mall starts exploding and collapsing, and Laurie is in fact sucked into an escalator.

GavGav

Fucking 7.5 for Sarah, 6.5 for me.

DanDan

9 for me.

GavGav

This is the best kill. It was really cool.

DanDan

Because one of my biggest fears is, will I get trapped in an escalator? And I'll tell you why that is. At school, we had a policeman come in and show us a video of horrific injuries.

GavGav

Oh, good.

DanDan

And one of them was someone who had got their legs stuck and ripped off in an escalator, just like this.

GavGav

And before that, were you scared of escalators? Until they showed you it. So basically, the police came in and scared you into being scared of things.

DanDan

They also then showed us what can happen if you play on train tracks, and they showed us bodies on train tracks that had been cut up.

GavGav

What was all of this proving?

DanDan

To scare us off of train tracks and escalators.

GavGav

To scare you off of escalators in the shopping center. That's one of the way you got to go up and down.

DanDan

Remember the rules on them at least. But yeah, what a bunch of cunts. What's great about this is half the escalator is broken, so she's falling into all this sort of, you know, like when you see those TikTok videos of like a giant, what do you call it? A grinder, where you put like industrial like metal in it, it just crushes it up. And it's one of those, and she just goes in there.

GavGav

Then we fucking wake up and it's a guy with a premonition, and then he rushes to the cinema and puts out the fire. And so, oh, what?

DanDan

But he comes to just as George gets splattered. So poor George gets killed yet again by the ambulance. So quite like that, but yeah, you're right. He goes in, he puts the fire in.

GavGav

Oh really?

DanDan

Yeah. But then he gets his arm nailed to the wall by a freak.

GavGav

He does say, he's trying to put the fire out, and all of a sudden the death's going, you're not going to intercept this. I shall stop you.

DanDan

So he sets up a sprinkler.

GavGav

So he's stuck with nails, nail gun stuck him to the wall basically, but and not to kill him, just like...

DanDan

Just keep him away.

GavGav

Yeah, take him away.

DanDan

But he manages to use a very long stick on fire to set off the sprinkler, which puts out all the fires. And then we cut to the end where Nick is banished up and he goes for a coffee with the two girls and a homeless man from earlier says, hey, this is another ridiculous moment.

GavGav

Hey, I know you. You're the guy that saved everybody at the shopping center.

DanDan

Yeah. Why would what has that got to do with anything? And then they sit in the window seat and then Nick feels the presence, sees a couple of signs and outside some scaffolding falls, which makes a huge truck swerve. And we're watching this in 3D.

GavGav

So we're going to cut to CSI deaths.

DanDan

Big truck comes flying in.

GavGav

But it all goes to like a CSI. Have you ever watched CSI?

DanDan

Or Mortal Kombat.

GavGav

Oh, OK.

DanDan

Mortal Kombat films.

GavGav

What, the deaths?

DanDan

Video games.

GavGav

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

DanDan

Because we see them all die, but in 3D, X-rays, CGI.

GavGav

What an old shit.

DanDan

And that's the end credits.

GavGav

What do you give that one? I'll give it, I can't remember what we gave there.

DanDan

And probably a five, it's slap bang in the middle. No, no, no, like a three, I gave it a three, sorry. Because even though you got three for the price of one, it was-

GavGav

So I gave it a three and I gave it a two.

DanDan

I give it a three. Overall, I actually would say, I'm gonna say this, unless you're a completist, this is a thumbs down, this film.

GavGav

Yeah, it's not very good.

DanDan

I don't say it very often, but- You don't? Unless you're a completist, it's not worth watching. The other four movies in the franchise are great. And this one just isn't-

GavGav

Yeah, even the next one's fun.

DanDan

Oh my God, the next one. Can't wait to talk about-

GavGav

Speaking of which, let's hop out of here. Have a trainer for the next one.

DanDan

All right then.

GavGav

Let's do it.

DanDan

Don't fear the Reaper.

Trailer

I'm trying to get all the pieces of the puzzle together. It says right here in the statement, I knew it would happen.

GavGav

I had a vision.

Trailer

We knew to warn everyone the bridge was going to collapse.

GavGav

Everybody off the bus!

Trailer

And minutes later, it did. I'll tell you what I believe, there's an answer for everything.

GavGav

Authorities aren't calling the Dridge Collapse a freak act of nature. Those natural causes? Yeah, more like supernatural.

Trailer

Death doesn't like to be cheated. I've seen this before. A lucky few survive a disaster, and then one by one, death comes for them all. Are you saying we can't stop this? You're not supposed to be here, so let death have somebody else in your place.

GavGav

Wait a minute, we kill someone, we get their life? When we're done, you'll have perfect vision. I'll be right back.

DanDan

Final destination Five, they lie to us, they lie to us, girl.

GavGav

Ooh, they're back again.

DanDan

2011, one hour and 32 minutes. Death Returns to Claim, The Lucky Survivors of a Deadly Bridge Collapse. And this fifth frightening installment in the series, directed by Stephen Quell, first time to the series. And it's got a few people in this you might know from The American Office, or Anchorman, and a few other people in it that have been in Bits and Bobs. This is, after the last movie, this is a real return to form for the franchise, for several reasons.

There's some good comedy in it that works very well. It feels like it knows what it is now, this franchise.

GavGav

And what the audience wants, and what it needs to do also to facilitate that. It's good casting.

DanDan

It's, yeah, it's good casting. It definitely some good acting. Yeah, fucking incredible opening sequence, you know, that must have it's the longest one. It's four and a half minutes long. Directed fine, you know, the effects are great for the bridge scene. And. Spoiler, as we always tell you, but, you know, this has got a fantastic twist. When you get to the end of it, you realize this was all set before the original Final destination.

GavGav

I had forgotten all about this.

DanDan

And it's so good. And if you watch it, knowing that, and you think, oh, no one's using any modern phones or internet. And you can see they've all got older computers and TVs, et cetera. And even the fact they talk about like older, you know, at one point somebody says, I see dead people. Well, that movie's only just come out. That's why they're quoting it, you know.

And she says, oh, these glasses make you look like Lisa Loeb, who was popular in the charts at the time when Final destination 1 had come out. So they do a really great job of tying it all back around.

GavGav

Yeah, I didn't know.

DanDan

The end scene. Yeah.

GavGav

So you say it's like you're saying, like through the movie, they're hinting towards the fact it's set in the Final destination land, first one.

DanDan

Indeed.

GavGav

Because that's a really interesting thing. It's not like it's a precursor or anything. It's actually set in the same universe at a different plane.

DanDan

Yeah.

GavGav

Which is really cool.

DanDan

I love it. So yeah, let's crack into this.

GavGav

Get into it.

DanDan

So we start with more Skull credits. And again, we feel like this is the confidence is back in this one. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Even from the credits. And we get callbacks to the previous four films. We get roller coasters and nail guns and all these things. So it's like, hey, I'm reminding you.

GavGav

Tony Todd's actually physically in this film.

DanDan

He is. And he looks great. He still looks great, doesn't he? He's just this quick, big, imposing guy. When he turns around and he's got a coroner written on his back, that's all you need. You're like, ooooh. He also delivers an incredible line, which we'll get to. And we are having breakfast outside of people waiting outside their offices. They've set up a big breakfast table.

GavGav

See, here, straight away, a director knows what they're doing because they're setting up this, well, even in the script writing, but they're setting up all the characters in this long car park opening. Because you're like, what's going on here? But I quite like the fact they're going through all the different characters and what they're going for. And it reminds me of Severance, because they're going on a work do.

DanDan

They're going on a retreat.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

We've got budget Tom Cruise, Peter, who looks like a basically Tom Cruise double. We've got Sam, we've got Nathan, Molly, Candice, Olivia, Isaac, the pervert, Dennis, the boss. What I love about this film as well is, and the other movies haven't done this, we've got the detective on the case, Agent Block, who's always one step behind.

GavGav

When we get to him, I've got words to say. The boss, Dennis, that's the bald dude from Hot Tub Time Machine.

DanDan

Anchorman as well.

GavGav

I really like Hot Tub Time Machine. It has come up in my books.

DanDan

I really like Anchorman.

GavGav

Yeah. I need to watch it again. I'll see it maybe once.

DanDan

He plays champ kind sports. He's like a real pervy sports guy. But yeah, he's good in this as the horrible boss, essentially.

GavGav

But like I said earlier, at this point, we feel like you're in safe hands. I think the director actually cares about the characters and cares about the fact that he wants, or they, but is he, wants us to like or dislike the characters, which is quite nice. It makes us go, Oh, it's a proper film. So what we get really is, even though we want the kills, that goes against what I said earlier, we are here for kills. It is nice to have a little bit of character wants.

DanDan

So we get a typical office sort of setting, really. These guys, you know, you've got Sam and Molly that are a couple, but they're kind of breaking up. You've got Peter, who's having a bit of an affair with Candice, but because he's going to be the boss soon, he doesn't really want everyone to know about it. You've got Nathan, who's a young black lad in front of all the guys in the factory, who seem to be slightly racist. They certainly don't like the fact that a younger lad is ruling over them.

And then you've got a couple of other characters, and they're including Herve Isaac, who thinks he's a ladies' man, but he's certainly not. And he's sort of always on the phone to girls, and he ends up in a massage parlor later on. It's brilliant. So yeah, so we've got a bunch of guys, and they all get on the bus. There's a corporate video playing, and it's basically, like you said, it's like Severance, yeah, it's a corporate team building weekend, a retreat.

And the bridge looms into view, and their bus drives onto the bridge, and we get the usual tents, Final destination music. I must say, there is a motif for the music on all the Final destination movies, which they do keep up, all five of them. And I do like the music from Final destination. Sam is our guy, and he feels the dread.

GavGav

I guess, if any connection to all the movies then is the score, which obviously is a thing you need in slasher films and stuff.

DanDan

Yeah. We get a close up of small things happening, you know, little, oh, that doesn't quite work, or the screw for this, or the hinge. Little mishaps.

GavGav

Yeah, trucks going by, it makes you feel like the second one, you know.

DanDan

Yeah. There is, there is a truck, actually, isn't there? You know, just like it. And then we see some cracks appearing in the concrete. Well, that's not good, cause this is a bridge.

GavGav

I think they're really playing into what everyone's like from the previous films. Yeah. It's simple. Why not? Like, yeah.

DanDan

And Sam says, something's going wrong here. Let's get off the bus. Things are cracking. Oh my God. One of the girls falls off the bridge.

GavGav

This is so good. This whole thing, from now on, the movie itself, I'm sitting there going, I wish I'd seen this in the cinema. I was happy as anything. The CGI and stuff looks incredible as this bridge collapse, but go for it, Dan. Tell what happened.

DanDan

I mean, like I said-

GavGav

I gave this a nine. I'm just throwing it out there right now.

DanDan

So I gave it 8.5.

GavGav

Yeah. It's fantastic.

DanDan

Yeah. It's going to get a nine for me. And the reason for that is, as I mentioned earlier-

GavGav

One of the best.

DanDan

As I mentioned earlier, it's the longest out of the five movies. It's four and a half minutes long.

GavGav

Great build up. It looks good. I like the people.

DanDan

It looks good. Each individual death is pretty brutal.

GavGav

I kind of care if they're actually going to make it or not.

DanDan

And it's a bridge to collapse, which is a very real thing that happened recently. Yeah, exactly. So as the bridge collapses, one of the girls falls off, lands on the sail of a boat. And again, 3D. So that's good. But it goes straight through her. Isaac is crushed, he remains in the bus. And as the bus falls down into the water, he falls to the front windscreen. He would have been crushed by the pressure of the water hitting the bus. So he's crushed. Sam and Molly run away.

And there's a bit of a gap as the bridge, more and more the bridge collapses and widens. Molly manages to tight rip across a little metal beam. She makes it. Olivia can't see without her glasses. So she tries her best to get across. But she falls, lands in the water, and a red car just falls off and lands on her and crashes her. I believe it's the red car from Final destination that the guy who won the lottery buys. It looks like it anyway. It might not be, but it looks like it.

It wouldn't surprise me. And then some cable snap. Some tarmac spills onto the boss. So he gets coated in tarmac, which burns, obviously, all his skin away, and then he falls into the water as well. Sam and Peter manage to make it across. Nathan gets sort of smashed by a cable and sort of cut into pieces. And then some rebars flip across in kebab Peter. So he gets loads of metal rebars sticking into him. Sam is sliced in half and we're back in the room.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Whoa, that was a nine out of ten.

GavGav

Absolutely.

DanDan

You know, that is up there with the part twos. That's great. It's really good.

GavGav

We're back in safe hands.

DanDan

So he's on the bus. Whoa, guys, I've got a really bad vibe. I've just had a weird vision. I think we all need to get off the bus. What do you mean? The bridge is going to collapse. What are you talking about? The bridge is going to collapse. And the bridge starts collapsing. So they all get off the bus. They watch the whole thing from afar because they're all off the bridge now. And they see the whole thing collapse. And this is where I love this element now.

And I know you've got a problem with him, which you're going to tell us in a minute. But I do love the fact that the FBI, this agent is like, hmm, someone said he predicted this. Is this guy a terrorist? Because this could have been a terrorist attack.

GavGav

What's my problem? This is what stupid fucking line of questioning. Go and actually be a detective. Like if you got to just look at all the people who are going to know what's happened structurally with that bridge and go, well, this is obviously what's happened here. At no point has any terrorist action gone on. And why would he think this kid, look at the kid's background. Is he got any fucking terrorist links? What stupid ass fucking, I was doing it again, stupid fucking detective.

Every time you come on, you're like, fuck off, jog on, you fucking dickhead. What are you asking stupid questions?

DanDan

Well, it adds an extra element of tension because they question everybody. And they say to Sam, they say to Sam, so you were overheard saying you had a vision and you knew that this is going to happen.

GavGav

What a waste of time. Why bother even questioning him?

DanDan

And then they question his friends. Does your friend have any extremist views or any?

GavGav

What?

DanDan

Terrorists.

GavGav

How's that going to help with him? A premonition of being a terrorist. What is that connection? It's fucking ridiculous.

DanDan

But then before they can question anyone else, they say, Detective Block, sorry, Agent Block. Yeah, basically the lab reports have come back and it was essentially a combination of high winds and construction damage.

GavGav

Yeah, see? The specialist has told you what's happened.

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Yeah.

GavGav

Before then, he even asked the guy's girlfriend, Oh, what was he like when, ex-girlfriend, what was he like when he broke up with you? What?

DanDan

Is he violent, man? What, he's gonna collapse a bridge because they broke up?

GavGav

Did he, well, I'm gonna go collapse a bridge.

DanDan

How would you collapse a bridge? Even a terrorist would have a hard time collapsing a bridge without some explosions at least.

GavGav

Yeah. So it's just really annoying.

DanDan

The only person I knew that could do that is the Hulk. The Incredible Hulk could collapse a bridge. I don't know any other person that could do it.

GavGav

Exactly. This is the only problem I've got in this film, is they could have been a little bit more intelligent here and written this for a little bit more of a reasoning without this going on. There could have been some other things going on here.

DanDan

But I read this as a comedy, a comedic element personally, and it might not be.

GavGav

It's played totally seriously.

DanDan

It was funny to me.

GavGav

Yeah, because it's shit.

DanDan

They do say on the TV and everybody is sad to say that this bridge collapse was nothing more than an act of God, an act of nature.

GavGav

So that's kind of the premonition terrorist again at large.

DanDan

The premonition terrorist at large. That's a good album name there. So, funeral for the co-workers, because almost everybody that worked to this paper company has been wiped out. There's literally about six or seven of them left.

GavGav

By the way, we've got a few openings that have come up.

DanDan

So there's eight survivors left.

GavGav

Tony Todd's there.

DanDan

Seven or eight survivors left. Yes, that's right. Well, before we get to that, the survivors all sort of gather at the funeral and they're all a bit suspicious of Sam in different ways. And the boss gives a eulogy. I do like the fact he says, I'll just name some of those people that are deceased. Isaac. And Isaac's like, I didn't die, I'm still here.

GavGav

That's actually pretty fucking good.

DanDan

And it keeps coming up later on. They're like, oh, poor old Isaac died. He's like, no, he stood over there. He's the guy in IT.

GavGav

Oh, that's weird, but I quite like the fact that this dude's just got it wrong and just got sent home, stood here.

DanDan

But then when he says that, they all look at him and go, I see dead people. So they do, quote, six hands, which would have been in the cinemas when this was out, which is another clue. It's great. Yeah, Tony Todd is there. And then he says to them, by the way, death won't be cheated. And they were looking at him like, what the fuck? What are you on about? And he says, all I'm saying is, be careful. Okay, great. I love it. Just turn up, say something scary and fuck off. Love it.

And Sam works in a kitchen as a chef. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. There's a lot of sharp things in the kitchen, Gav.

GavGav

Yeah, yeah.

DanDan

He walks home and he goes to visit Molly, his ex-girlfriend, because they've broken up by now. And he says, he gets to her apartment, he says, I'm getting some vibes, some weird vibes in this apartment. But I need to tell you something. I'm thinking about moving to Paris and taking this French apprenticeship.

GavGav

Oh, and now we know the ending.

DanDan

Yeah, because Paris is where the school are going. Is it a twist? He says, I think I'm going to take the apprenticeship. He's like, well, you know, that's great. He's like, do you think you'd want to come? They don't really talk much more about it. Cut to, so this is a few weeks later, obviously, Candice is at a sports hall, gymnasium, where she does her gymnastics.

GavGav

This is great. Now, the tension with the pin on the beam is so bad.

DanDan

Should we go through it?

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Okay, so she is one of these on a beam gymnastics who I admire these women. This is mainly women that do this incredible backflips and front flips and spins all on like a six inch wide beam. I don't know how they, how they do it, but she does all this. obviously, though, she's getting ready. We've got close ups, as we do with Final destination movies, lots of things going wrong. The air conditioning is dripping. It's a bit broken. There's a worn cable. There's a pin that falls down.

GavGav

Health and safety nowadays is absolutely no way in fucking hell. That lead, which is broke like that, would be allowed anywhere near anything.

DanDan

I don't know if you noticed that the plug was worn away in such a way that it looked like a skull.

GavGav

Oh, nice.

DanDan

Yeah, it was cool. Like a skull's head. And she's got these lucky rubber bands that she always carries. And one of them snaps when she's sort of winding it around her wrist. So she's a bit worried. And as Gav mentioned earlier, a screw from the air conditioning falls down and lands on the beam stuck up in the air.

GavGav

Now, we keep getting this macro lens look.

DanDan

Look at it on a drawing pen or a thumbtack.

GavGav

The horse is only some places you can walk at some point, the steps and the camera angles just looking at it in the foreground. In the background, we get coming closer, just these steps and feet like, no, no.

DanDan

Now bear in mind, Peter, her boyfriend has gone to watch and support her here. So he's watching her, you know, go on, you can do it, Candice. So she's doing those great stuff, flips and slips and so on and so on. And her foot is always inches away from this screw. She never quite stands on it. So we've got a build up.

GavGav

Great tension.

DanDan

Great tension, great build up. Now it's time for her to go.

GavGav

Get comes off it and she's fine. She misses it.

DanDan

Right. Get on the bars on the, you know, one higher, one lower bar. I don't really know what they're called. Okay. She does all that. She gets, starts to do the flips and flops.

GavGav

So we're expecting any second.

DanDan

And another girl gets on that beam.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

She does a bunch of somersaults. Her foot lands right on the screen. She screams, falls off, knocks the chalk over. A big cloud of that goes up in the air.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Flips into Candice while she's in mid air doing a somersault. And she literally lands like a sack of shit on the floor.

GavGav

She's just a bit, her spine just sort of.

DanDan

You see her spine sticking out of her butt and her knees and her butt bones sticking out of her shoulders.

GavGav

This movie, apart from a stupid detective asks us any questions, it's fucking off the chain this one so far. Sarah gives this a nine.

DanDan

I gave this a nine.

GavGav

I gave it a seven.

DanDan

Nine.

GavGav

But straight away, this movie, you're like, this is up there. It's beaten for, no worries.

DanDan

Because it's so painful looking, but also so sudden as well.

GavGav

And the tension, it's not so sudden, that tension to build up to that pin.

DanDan

And it's a bit ridiculous that all of her bones would be sticking out of her body like that. But also, this is a Final destination movie, so fuck it. Peter's upset, of course he is. He's just witnessed his girlfriend have every bone in her body, poke out of her skin. So he's upset.

GavGav

They were poking for him too.

DanDan

They were. I mean, depends. We're in the office. Now, I've just realised, Gav...

GavGav

What a cheap cunt, here, going around taking, stealing shit out of the dead people's drawers.

DanDan

Hang on, hang on. Sam and Molly, they're the couple in this. We covered another film with Sam and Molly. Ghost. I've just raised here Sam, and so I've realised maybe that it's a bit of an homage to Ghost in some way. I don't know, maybe. But yeah, Sam and Molly are there and they're clearing out their desks, obviously. And, oh, Olivia comes in and she says, Oh my God, we've all got a bereavement payout in our paychecks. It's pretty good.

And I guess the company would give you like a big payout, like that. So they're pretty pleased about that. They, oh, did you see about Candice? Yeah, I did. Oh, well. Yeah, but she got crushed to bits during the somersault. It's a bit weird, isn't it? And then we see Isaac, the pervert turn out, the one who everyone thinks was dead anyway. And he's going from desk to desk, isn't he?

GavGav

He's leading anything.

DanDan

He's leading some loose change, some sweets.

GavGav

Well, he finds a voucher for Massage Plot, and he thinks it's a rub-and-tug, doesn't he?

DanDan

Yeah, he thinks he's going to get a little reach-around hand job from the lady. But so he puts that in his pocket. He's just being a perv as usual. We'll come back to him in a minute. Nathan shows up with some beers and says, Come on, guys, let's have a proper toast to our dead colleague. So, yeah, good old Nathan. That's cool. Let's go to the massage parlor then, go.

GavGav

Yeah, go to the massage parlor, walks in there straight away, to the young lady at the desk, starts saying, Oh, I'm here for this. It's, you know, trying to say basically.

DanDan

He basically, yeah, and he's so slightly racist. It says at one point, yum yum dim sum to one of the girls.

GavGav

So, wow. So she says, Oh, OK. She figures him out straight away because she sees it all the time, I'm sure.

DanDan

Henry Swanson's the name and excitement's my game.

GavGav

Exactly. So she takes him in the back and he's like, brilliant, this is going to be wicked. She's like, get your clothes off, lay down, et cetera. Thinking he's, she's coming back to give him.

DanDan

Because it's a very hot Asian girl that he's got in the room that we should say. So he shuts his eyes and when he opens them, it's a very old Asian lady. And he's like, Whoa, whoa, you aren't the lady that I just, because he thought he was going to get, you know, real good time. Now in this room, there's some incense sticks burning. There's a statue of a Buddha on a shelf. That's very wobbly, isn't it?

GavGav

By the way, just going back to gymnasium, just to finish it off very, very quickly. We had a detective turned up.

DanDan

Oh yeah, that's right.

GavGav

And he can't figure it out. Like, fuck off, you dickhead.

DanDan

Well, the guy says to him, the crime scene guy says, I couldn't, I cannot tell you for the life of me what happened here. I don't know how this happened. It's just a literal freak accident. I just can't tell you how it happened. And he's like, maybe it's still a terrorist act.

GavGav

Maybe it's the premonition terrorist again.

DanDan

How has he done it?

GavGav

It's so frustrating that it's such a shit way of bringing him in.

DanDan

Awful, awful. So yeah, Isaac, back to Isaac. This lady is very rough with him. She's bending him up, bending him left and right. Nothing sexual, but she's doing all the cracking bones and all the... And look, I actually look like I'd like that. I'd like the old lady to have a go at me, to be honest. I need it.

GavGav

I wouldn't mind a bit trying a bit of acupuncture. I'd just try it out, actually, get stabbed up.

DanDan

Well, we'll come back to that in a minute, because Olivia, quickly, we get a cut to Olivia, who drops a photo and sees something. Oh, the photo's got a smash over my eye. That's weird. A crack on my eye. Anyway, cut back to Isaac, and he starts having some acupuncture, lots and lots of acupuncture needles in his forehead and his chest. I've never had acupuncture. I don't think I ever want to, to be honest. I reckon you'll be all right.

The lady says to him, you go to sleep, I'll be back in 30 minutes, because she can't speak English. She's been winding him up. So she does that. Now, the dentist, the boss, meanwhile, he's witnessed some tension between the people that are survivors. So he calls up the agent blog. He says, You told me to let you know if there was anything suspicious. Well, I've just seen them screaming about death and shouting about different things. And he's like, All right, thanks for that.

Keep me posted if anything else weird happens. It's very strange. Cut back to old Isaac, pincushion. While he's led there, his phone vibrates, which knocks a candle off. There's a bit of a fire. He falls off the bed, face down onto about 30 acupuncture needles.

GavGav

The thing is, the fire breaks up, he could just turn and stand up and just walk out of the room. I don't know why he can't just get up. There's no reason why he can't stand up. But he does fall with his face for the pins.

DanDan

He pulls one of them out and it's in so deep.

GavGav

In his chest.

DanDan

And it's curved, it's bent and twisted.

GavGav

It's a good inch and a half.

DanDan

I'm not a fan of needles, so this was awful for me. And then some cleaning alcohol spills all over the floor as well.

GavGav

Last Friday, I gave blood with a needle, then I went and got tattooed. Double needle day for me. Yeah.

DanDan

I mean, I've got a load of tattoos and I've had to, I've not ever given blood, but I've had loads of blood taken.

GavGav

It was, I wasn't giving blood as in that I had to have some tests.

DanDan

I just don't look. I always say to them, I always say to them, I'm not very good with needles, despite what you see on my arms.

GavGav

I don't pay attention.

DanDan

But I say to them, if you see me looking a bit gray, because I've almost passed out from having blood taken. And even when I've had a thing put in my arm, the hospital and stuff, that's the bit that makes me feel like you can take as many tumors out of my neck as you want. I've had all that done. But it's the catheter, not the catheter, the cannula in my hand I don't like.

GavGav

It fucking hurts.

DanDan

They can never find my veins, and I'm feeling a bit faint talking about it. Anyway, well, we don't see this one coming, but basically there's a fire, there's needles in him, and then all of a sudden, a big Buddha falls off a shelf.

GavGav

That's karma.

DanDan

And fucking splats his head open. 7 out of 10.

GavGav

Sarah 7, me 6.

DanDan

Because you don't see it coming, you don't think it's going to be the Buddha. No.

GavGav

It's not bad, it's not bad.

DanDan

And the needles, it's the needles.

GavGav

It's fine, it's kind of like your tanning salon. It's fine, it's the same setup. Tony Todd said, collect the body.

DanDan

Yes, he says, the best line, he says, I've seen this before. And they're like, what do you mean? And he tells them, you know, death's design, if you interrupt it, it will find a way. And they're like, okay, we start, they start sort of, you know, understanding that there's an order and a design. And then he says, they say to him, this doesn't seem fair. And he says, my favorite line, he says, hey, I don't make the rules. I just clean up when the game's over.

He just walks away and you're like, yes, Mike dropped Tony Todd. So yeah, they've all heard about Isaac.

GavGav

I laser clinic.

DanDan

Oh my God.

GavGav

Now I wear glasses, I tell you.

DanDan

My sister used to be a laser eye technician for about seven or eight years, by the way.

GavGav

I tried to get contact lenses years ago. My eyes just would not let it happen. So even just putting a clamp in the eye is absolutely horrible to myself. I hate it. It couldn't do it.

DanDan

This is horrible.

GavGav

You could not get me to have that done.

DanDan

So poor Olivia, who wears glasses, she's decided, she goes out and she says, I just want things in my life to be a bit clearer. She's had a couple of near misses. She wants laser eye surgery, so she doesn't have to worry about glasses. And that's great. And that's fine. Go for it. She looks great in her glasses, I think, but whatever. She dumps them in the little pot and the guy says, come inside. And she's like, what are the teddy bears for?

GavGav

I didn't like that, when she just dropped them in the pot. Wait till you get it done. What if you go in there and say, oh, sorry, we're going to have to do another day. She's then going to be there fishing around, trying to find her glasses.

DanDan

Well, she grabs the teddy bears, he says, they're for our younger patients, but some of our older ones let them too. So she's very nervous and she's squeezing this teddy bear so hard that it's bloody eye pops out, doesn't it?

GavGav

You'd probably go with a friend or something like that. You need to get back again. You're always, you're not going to be able to see anything, are you?

DanDan

Well, you can't get home. This is what my sister, when my sister used to do this as a living, she used to say the amount of people that didn't realize you can't see for a few hours after you get home.

GavGav

What are you supposed to do? Just start to wander about?

DanDan

They're like, oh, I didn't bring anyone with me. Well, how the fuck are you going to get home? You can't see for about three hours. People are stupid. Anyway, she lies on the bed thing and he says, right, I've clamped your head and you cannot move your head now. She's like, no, I can't. Now, what's horrible here is, so let's build up this picture. She can't move her head. Then next to her, there's a screen that she can see with a giant close up of her eye, your own eyeball on this big screen.

Then he says, I'm going to put these drops in your eye now, and they're going to numb your eyeball and things will go a bit blurry. But don't worry, that's all part of the process. And he says, oh, for goodness sake, Douglas has given me an incomplete file. I'm just going to leave you on your own lying on this table.

GavGav

Ain't it right, Douglas?

DanDan

And he leaves her alone. Now, while he leaves her alone, a little bit of water drips onto a plug, usual thing, sparks. The machine starts heating up.

GavGav

It just builds up to a fucking laser going off in her eye, which is horrible.

DanDan

It might as well be a lightsaber right next to your eyeball. Oh my God. And like I said, she's got a close up of her eye on the screen.

GavGav

Oh, it's just burning into her eye.

DanDan

The effects are fantastic here, because the effects of the laser burning her eyeball, to start with, are good. Then she manages to put her hand up, and it burns across her hand. And that looks great as well.

GavGav

Oh, so horrible.

DanDan

She manages to put her head up off of the clamp, just as Sam and Molly run in. And she's got one eye at this point, just like the photo she saw earlier, which she smashed. And she then, you think, oh God, the poor girl. And then she slips on the eyeball from the teddy bear, straight out the window, down into a car, which pops her eye out. Her eye rolls towards the screen, and then a car runs over it twice.

GavGav

What is that saying about laser surgery? Did the right or the right have a bad problem with eye laser surgery?

DanDan

Nine out of ten for me.

GavGav

Me and Sarah both get a bit of six.

DanDan

Trauma, eye trauma.

GavGav

There is, I think I might give it a high, because eye trauma, I'll give it a seven, because the eye trauma.

DanDan

But also, it doesn't stop, you know, it goes from the laser in the eye, to the laser in the hand, to the slipping at the window, to the trapping on the car, to the squashed eyeball, it's just constant.

GavGav

Now we do cut to the detective, who actually at this point does go, well, I think you know something, but I know you didn't do it.

DanDan

Yeah.

GavGav

Well done. Slow clap for you.

DanDan

Well done. They say to him, well, we weren't supposed to survive, and death is trying to set things right. And he looks at them like, okay, that's not exactly what I was expecting when I just said to you, I think I know.

GavGav

At the same time, what else are you going to say? They're just dying, everyone's dying, and what am I supposed to say?

DanDan

Sam keeps replaying the bridge incident in his head and tries to remember the order, and he realizes that Nathan is next. Nathan is back at the factory, ordering the factory workers around, and he says, I want to talk to Roy.

GavGav

Oh, yeah.

DanDan

And Roy comes up to talk to him and he says, listen, you've been doing too much over time. And Roy's like, listen, Sonny, Jim, I got a mortgage to pay. And they start having a bit of an argument, and then a crane hook sort of just got out of nowhere, just comes down. And he pushes Roy underneath it.

GavGav

Well, he tries to stop it. It doesn't try and kill him, but he ends up, this poor guy, still working, he's been working hard, gets killed. Just because-

DanDan

What's great is it-

GavGav

It should be the other guy.

DanDan

It breaks a hole in the floor.

GavGav

It's just a random person's been killed.

DanDan

Which Roy falls through, and then he lands on the hook.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Underneath his chin.

GavGav

But this isn't a line of death, is it?

DanDan

No, no.

GavGav

It's just a random person. Is this the first time we have like this?

DanDan

I think it might be, the first non-

GavGav

Civilian.

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Yeah.

DanDan

8 out of 10. Unexpected. Great little hook under the chin.

GavGav

Because the note builder whatsoever, Sarah gave it a 4.5 and I gave it a 4.

DanDan

Oh, okay. I like it.

GavGav

Thing is, when it happens, Sarah and I then have a quick, well, what do you think? And sometimes our scores can be quite the same because we have the kind of back and forth of disgusting, you know, a little.

DanDan

Well, Dennis arrives, the boss, just after this incident, and he's like, who's died now? What on earth is going on? And just as he gets there, because this guy's died, and they sort of say to Nathan, did you do it? Did you do it on purpose to skip your go of dying? And he's like, well, I didn't mean to, but I guess I kind of did. And they're like, well, who does that mean? Who's next? Dennis walks in. Dennis is the next one. He walks in, starts shouting about them.

And then a spanner falls down, flies off onto a gear which shoots forward and basically slices his head in half, six out of ten, I gave it. CGI looks a bit shit. And it was all right, but it's six.

GavGav

Uh, weirdly, no score from Sarah and I. I must have just missed it somehow.

DanDan

It's very quick after that last one.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

So they realize, you know, there is a way that you can skip a go if you kill another person, which Peter thinks, oh, maybe I'll go out and kill someone.

GavGav

What a dickhead. How do you think, how do you think that that's going to, how the line works? Oh, okay. Well, if I just intercept and I'll just go and shoot someone and kill someone else, that's surely how it's going to stop me. No, death's coming for you.

DanDan

What a twerp. Well, Sam's back in the kitchen doing his job, and there's danger everywhere, including a meat grinder which jams a bit of a red herring, because nothing happens. He cleans up the kitchen, closes it, and he says to the head chef, look, is it still all right for me to cook a meal for my girlfriend tonight in the restaurant? He's like, of course, just make sure you clean it.

GavGav

And he says, all goes weird though. Yeah, okay.

DanDan

It does.

GavGav

It does.

DanDan

It's messy.

GavGav

Yeah, it's convoluted.

DanDan

He says, I want to accept that apprenticeship in Paris. And he says, good, you're the best chef.

GavGav

I know. It's all right, but we're kind of getting away from what we're here for. We're kind of going into something now. It's like, this is too late for this.

DanDan

So they have a candle at dinner, but Peter shows up, very shaken up.

GavGav

He says, can you open up the door? I need to talk to you.

DanDan

He says, I'm next, aren't I?

GavGav

Well, this is that dickhead that thinks that if he kills someone else, it's going to not affect him.

DanDan

Well, he tells them all day long, I've been trying to kill other people, strangers, push people in front of cars.

GavGav

But I couldn't do it.

DanDan

I just can't do it. But I've got this gun, Molly, and I'm going to kill you because I lost my girl. So I'm going to kill you.

GavGav

So he's just going to go over there. There's probably CCTV footage for a start, cameras for a start in the restaurant. What is this place? This is why it's now like at some point goes real weak here.

DanDan

It goes to a thriller. It turns into a thriller.

GavGav

It totally turns into a thriller. And it's like, this is a different film all of a sudden. Like, did they run out of money? Is this a quick rush thing you had to do and just shoot, film something inside a kitchen? What's going on?

DanDan

Agent Block shows up. He hears a shot fired. He says, he calls for backup. There's a fight now.

GavGav

The detective shot.

DanDan

Peter knocks out Sam, tries to find Molly in the dark restaurant. He kills Agent Block.

GavGav

It's now an action movie. And so, where's this time come from?

DanDan

He's killed the detective. Then he says, well, Molly, you've seen me kill a cops and I've got to kill you too.

GavGav

It's just, there's too many questions to throw this in here. So this unfortunately is making the movie go downhill.

DanDan

Sam jumps in, a gun lands on the grill and starts heating up while they fight. Peter grabs a knife, chases Molly, and then Sam ends up kebabing Peter with this huge spiky thing. Two out of ten.

GavGav

Really weak kill. Me and Sarah didn't score because it was awful. Funnily enough, I'm more interested in the fact that I had a kebab last week, and it's fucking amazing.

DanDan

Excellent. Well, the gun goes off because it's been heating up, but no one gets hurt because they're safe.

GavGav

Loads of chilies.

DanDan

It's great. And cut to what makes this film great again, the final scene.

GavGav

See, this is now good. So why have it happened just a moment ago? They needed to rewrite that and do something better with that. Why didn't they just kill that guy and just have him as the death and then cut to it?

DanDan

Why did they have to kill off Agent Block? I don't know. As much as you had problems with him, he didn't need to die.

GavGav

He actually didn't even need to come back in it, to be honest with you. I'd forgotten about him. That's fun.

DanDan

But, wow, the ending scene. So they're on a plane. We don't see this coming. So we see this film.

GavGav

They do pull it back by this, but they did fail almost.

DanDan

Are you excited for Paris? I'm excited for Paris. That's good. And then they look around and they see the cast of the first movie.

GavGav

Very clever.

DanDan

So it's a shot from the first movie done to look like it's happening. And they're being kicked off because one of the boys, Alex, says, Oh, my God, there's this plane's gonna crash. And I'm like, why is that kid getting taken off? Oh, I don't know. Turbulence happens and then the plane catches fire.

GavGav

Yeah, the whole thing happens from the first.

DanDan

It's really good. Molly gets sucked out. He catches fire. And then we forgot all about Nathan who survived because he's at Roy's Memorial in the bar. And Nathan's like, Oh, man, I'm really like, of course I was going to come and see him. Oh, he was going to die anyway. What do you mean? Roy had a brain tumor. He was about a week away from dying. So he would have died anyway. It's probably a good thing that he died. And then the plane debris comes straight through the engine.

GavGav

Crushes Nathan. I love it.

DanDan

And that's an 8 out of 10 for me, because that was the whole thing as well, isn't it? But I give Nathan's death an 8 out of 10.

GavGav

I think we did the whole thing. So I gave it a 9 and I gave it a 7.5.

DanDan

And then the end credits show all the deaths from all the films. Like this is the final film, but it's not because there is a 6 coming out.

GavGav

Yeah, and they could carry on making these. I don't know why they hadn't already.

DanDan

Definitely a thumbs up for that one for me. To tell people to watch that one. Look, this is a great franchise. Somebody online, Keith, one of our listeners and followers and supporters, said, this is much better than the Saw franchise. And I agree. There are many more Saw movies.

GavGav

A lot of Saw movies.

DanDan

But this franchise is fun. It's got rules. It follows every episode.

GavGav

Yeah, in comparison, this does the same as what Saw films do. You go there for the deaths. But I don't like that torture shit. That's bullshit. That's like people in situations. This is like every day where people could relate to more.

DanDan

Yeah, it's a fun concept. And it's got great rules that we like, you know.

GavGav

And humans have a fascination with death. So, yeah.

DanDan

So, that's Final destination 3.5. Now, Gav, I asked you a couple of days ago to think about your least favorite to your favorite of the Final destination films. So, I'm going to start with my least favorite, which will probably be the same as yours. My least favorite is The Final destination, part 4.

GavGav

Yes.

DanDan

I assume that's the same for you. OK. My next is a joint place. 3 and 5 are exactly the same. I like them both equally. They're good. What about you?

GavGav

Yeah. Just after reviewing part 5, then how much better that was. Yeah, possibly, because I've got 5 here next, actually.

DanDan

I would say that 3 is slightly better than 5.

GavGav

Yeah, I've got 3 at my number 2, funnily enough.

DanDan

Oh, well, my number 2 is number 1. The first one is my second favorite. Because it's dark and it's the one that started it all.

GavGav

OK. I think we're confusing everybody. So mine's the fourth, then the fifth, then the second, then the third, and then the first.

DanDan

Wow. OK, my favorite is number 2.

GavGav

OK. Yeah, it's a good one.

DanDan

That's interesting.

GavGav

Yeah, I don't know. Actually, I don't know. After reviewing three of you again, I do like two quite a lot. I don't know. 5, 2 and 3 are all fairly... They've got different things.

DanDan

Number 1 is more of a dark horror.

GavGav

1 is the originator. I like it.

DanDan

2, 3 and 5 are fun.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

4 is just a misstep.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

And then I'd like to talk about the opening disasters. My favorite of the opening disasters is still number 2, the road pile up.

GavGav

Yeah.

DanDan

Still my favorite.

GavGav

It's going to be that or the bridge scene.

DanDan

The bridge is my second favorite.

GavGav

I'm going to review. I'd say that. I'd go road, then bridge, then aeroplane.

DanDan

Well, roller coaster for me, then aeroplane.

GavGav

And then the car derby last.

DanDan

Yeah, that's last for me.

GavGav

See, they're being cheap at that point.

DanDan

Now, before we wrap up, there is a Final destination 6 in the works. It's currently been produced. It's coming out in August next year, August 2025.

GavGav

I will be at the cinema to watch it. I'll support it.

DanDan

It's called Final destination Bloodlines.

GavGav

Who's making that and who's directing it?

DanDan

Tony Todd is in it. It is directed by two people, Adam Stein and Zack Lebowski. It's got a cast list already on there, no one you would have heard of. And it says, Yeah, don't need to. a little bit about it. It says, The film is about an 18 year old whose grandmother narrowly escaped death in the 60s, but death continues to pursue them throughout their descendants. So it's going to be a historical. Yeah, it's going to be like a historical, I think.

GavGav

So it's like hereditary.

DanDan

It's like when Jules goes after the family.

GavGav

Not the movie, I mean, is in hereditary, like, you know.

DanDan

It's like, yeah, like when the shark just decides, I'm going to go for that family.

GavGav

Like when the family go that Christmas holiday to, Alan, get off your neckers, Alan.

DanDan

Apparently, it's going to send to mainly around ambulance, firemen and police. So this family are going to have a lot of people in the services like that.

GavGav

That's a weird one then.

DanDan

Yeah, but I think what's going to be interesting is seeing, I don't know if I'm in for that. It'll be even more of a prequel than part five.

GavGav

Yeah, it will be, but I don't know if I'm in for the whole hereditary family bloodline. That's a really weird way to go.

DanDan

Okay, but yeah, August, August 2025, that's scheduled to come out.

GavGav

But anyway, everybody, if you've never seen these films, get your fucking ass to Mars.

DanDan

Get your ass to Mars. No, do watch them.

GavGav

Mars.

DanDan

Yeah, it's a great. It's one of the great.

GavGav

Or just fun to watch.

DanDan

It's one of the great newer franchises. Saw is a good franchise for some people, not for me. But for me, the new, my favorite two franchises are the new batch of stuff. I don't like the insidious franchise. I don't like the bloody Conjuring franchise.

GavGav

A lot of the Boom House stuff, yes.

DanDan

But Scream and Final destination are my two favorite from the 90s up. I can't think of another, you know, other than The Purge, which I don't really like those ones either.

GavGav

I've still not seen that Scream 5, and I'm not going to probably. Scream 6, then. No, what's the last one that came out?

DanDan

Scream 6.

GavGav

Yeah, I haven't seen Scream 6.

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I hope not.

DanDan

Bloody hell, I haven't seen either.

GavGav

I'm not going to bother. Oh, bloody hell, I'm definitely not going to bother. It's a different location, a whole different thing, because it's not what I like to film for. I'm not going to bother. Yes, okay. Good movies, check them out. Yeah, definitely. Four is the only one you could skip. Let's know what your best kills are. Please share it on the old group page, because then everyone could join in.

And it's one of those films, like Jules did for Water, some films are done for other things, like Psycho in the Shower. This is done for death. Well, it's made you think about log lorries on the road. Do you think it's made health and safety? Is this why there's so much red tape in Health and Safety? I doubt very much it's made anybody at a NASCAR racing event worry, but it's probably made people with a log lorry in front of them.

Even if I get on a flight, if my flight was ever 180, I'd be like, fuck this, I ain't getting on this one. Absolutely. Right, let's get out of here and we're going to be back real soon. And we're back again. And we're front again. Welcome front, welcome back, and welcome to the side. Welcome all over. We are done with Final destination until the sixth one comes out, and we inevitably review that. But we've wrapped up that round twice, it was fun. I'm glad we did it. Yeah, really fun.

Do it, do it just for the kills. Watch them. Yeah, it's a great one. What missed part four? Well, what is coming up next? What is coming up next, Gav? Yeah, we've always forget what's up. Next episode is- What's up, Doug? Well, we are getting ready for the Halloween season. So our next episode is just going to warm things up a little bit with a director special, the classic Terence Fisher. Is that next, is it? That's our next episode.

We have picked a Terence Fisher episode, a movie, a film each. So it's going to be, you've picked 1959's Hang of the Baskervilles. Yeah. And I've picked 61's Curse of the Whale. I'll tell you what, since I fucking packed my movies away, which was probably only about six weeks ago, I literally packed all my movie collection away, put my parents loft because I was like, I don't know where I'm going yet. I don't know where I'm living. So I need to put them somewhere to make it easier to move.

Since I've done that, the amount of times I've had to fucking rent movies out and shit, it's done my fucking nothing. I've got this on Blu-ray somewhere in a box. And under the Baskervilles, I feel like I have that on Blu-ray somewhere. Two Hammer Horrors for Terrence Fisher. So that'd be a great episode.

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