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Newy Scruggs, Barry Church and Danny McCray debate who they think will return from the secondary to the coaching staff and more on this episode of the Player's Lounge!

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's label, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and New He scrugs. All right, here we go on a Tuesday. Everybody, This is the players lines are New He scrugs, a long time Cowboys reported, joined by Barry Church and Danny McCray. Gentlemen, we spent so much time allowing Barry to take that

victory lap yesterday. We failed to give credit to a guy who had a good game that was very underrated in the win, and that is Special Teams Ace who played a lot of defense. C J. Good. So, gentlemen, let's peak that praise on old CJ. His partner. Big win over the Eagles. We gotta get go ahead, Dan

mc go ahead. They called Barry Church nostradamins. But I'm gonna I'm gonna take this one because I've been calling this man the MVP of the Dallas Cowboys football team four weeks now, and they and they put him out there, and they had them specifically out there to spy on Jalen Hurts, and I think that changed the game. It forced Jalen Hurts to stay in the pocket a little bit longer than he wanted two and allow our pass rush to get there and allow our coverage to be

in the right position to get those interceptions. So he went out there, he changed the game the same way he's been doing all year. And a shout out to him, and he's still the MVP in the only pro bo snub on the Dallas Cowboys football team. Hey man, good good stuff for CJ out there. You right, We forgot

to show our boys some love. He was one of our first guests here on the Players Lounge last year, and I mean he's been a special team's demon this whole year, whether it be covering kicks down and kicks inside the twenty, doing reverse passes, taking it down the sidelines. I mean, he's been a special teams demon. And then they threw him in on defense and I didn't even notice the small little wrinkle that Mike Nolan put in there having him back there at safety and as the snapper.

As the play progressed, he slowly crept down into that kind of quarterback spy position and we all know he has world class feed, so it wasn't like Hurtch was gonna be able to run away from him. But I mean, they did a great job adding him in on the defense, and he's just been a stud all year round. I mean, not a lot of people noticed him because of special teams, but this guy's been a stud for the team all

year round. And like, like Danny said, he was the only snub on the Cowboys roster as far as Pro Bowls concerned, who did make the Pro Bowl over him? I forgot I want to say it was. It wasn't Matt Slater because you know he's always at a special teams gay, but that's AFC. I'm not sure who made it in I'm not sure who may maybe well, I mean, look, here's an other tough thing for a guy like c J. Yeah, when you're a losing team, you guys to know this

because you play the game. It's hard. It's hard to make the Pro Bowl, you know it just just losing teams is it's tough, and we do it. And we have seen in the past when the Cowboys win, the Cowboys get a lot of guys on the Pro Bowls. So you know, for a guy like CJ. Hopefully he's back in twenty twenty one and the Cowboys have a winning record, then he's going to have that better opportunity to make it on special teams. But you know, so many times that's how a big chunk of this goes

into who makes the Pro Bowl squad. And you know, you get lucky, you know, you gotta be, you know, extraordinarily a big time name like a Deshaun Watson to make the Pro Bowl on a losing team like he did this year. And Ryan Tannehill was all mad about how he did make it. But um, you know, I think we all saw Deshaun Watson was out there by himself. Yes, absolutely by him. I mean, to answer your question, he was Nick Blore from the Seattle Seahawks, who was the

special teams pro bowler for the NFC. Gotcha listen. It also doesn't help when your team cuts you before the year. You know, you kind of help along the way there, you know. And that's and hopefully c J can get some real most of all, and Danny, you know you know this well, the special teams was your thing. You can get some respect in your own locker room, you know, that. That's what I hope CJ. Goodwin can get out of

this twenty twenty season. It's just some respect from the organization. No, No, listen, listen, listen, listen. I can guarantee you that they have a respect for him. But as Barry knows, and you're covering, the Cowboys know that safe the safety position is one of the positions that is not really that invested in when it comes

to dollars and long contracts and special teams. Is also one of those positions to where the Cowboys have not been able to keep their stars special teams players and stack those guys up so they can have guys like CJ on the roster for long periods of time, kind of like a team like um the New New England Patriots. So I hope that this is the year that we kind of turned the corner and realized how important a guy like CJ is. But if history, you know, tells

us anything, then he might be headed somewhere else. He needs a gimmick, man, he needs one of those. I mean, knew what you were around here? When who was the guy back in the day? Man? It was I think it was Kenny the Shark. Yeah, he think't in there doing his little shark dads like yeah, yeah, yeah, he needs this little gimmick man, just to get him a little bit more TV time, and then I'm sure he'll be able to turn the corner and get cjes CJ.

He even going to come out. He ain't about to do that, man, And listen, if they don't respect him for his play on the field right now, he don't need to go out there and do no shark man. So hey, them shark dads might put a couple of extra mill in your pocket. May I don't know. Look, Look, I mean I was there for it, man. I remember. I mean Kenny the Shark Gant was so popular. I mean he had a radio show. I mean, man, people

loved that dude. And when when it was Special Team's time, you know, people were in the stands, you know, watching him dance do his thing. So I'm just saying, uh, it was it was a niche that he took and fans loved it. I mean even when pat Man Jones was here, you know Pat Man Jones, people wanted to see him in the return game. And I thought, okay, I was wrong, but I thought Tavon Austin could have been a guy who who got people going into return games.

It didn't happen that way. But like I said, I thought, but taking this a little bit further out here on the players lauch Boty by hotels dot Com. We saw some uptick from the defensive back and we've seen it now in three football games, and my jaw remember it against rookie Jalen Hurts. It's against uh Nick Mullins. None of these three players will be starting for their teams if they can get their starting quarterbacks back next year.

In my opinion, I don't think they are. Maybe Hurts, but I doubt I doubt it because they got so much investing in Carson Wentz. I think they'd like to try and make it work with them first. But do you bring these guys back? Do you blow it up? What do you do with your secondary next year? With just one game to go? What do you think they should do? McCraw? Wait, wait, so I know Nick Mullins didn't start the next game after he played US, so that's already off the table. And did Brandon Allen start

the next same? Yeah, he played, he falled out and against balled out and any player. Yeah he played okay, so so Nick so so. Nick Mullins is already off. It's not happening all right, So listen, It's like I said, it's hard to make those plays no matter who's playing quarterback. It's it's been some guys out there. Like you said, Brandon Allen goes out there next week and play as well against Houston, and you never would have thought that would have happened. The way that he gave them, gave

the turn up was over to us. So, like I said, when you have those opportunities to make those plays and you make them, you deserve all the credit in the world. But that doesn't change what happened previously throughout the season and with your dB coaches and these guys getting you know, bombed on balls, going over the head, getting you know, blonde coverages and simple stuff like cover three and cover four.

None of that stuff changes that, right, So they made some plays, but it needs to be some reconstruction going on in that secondary just to make sure that this is not our Achilles Hill next season. Reconstruction that they need to throw a TNT whole secondary room and blow that thing up. I mean, look, I only see maybe two two people coming back from this secondary and I would be Wilson, who he's shown. He's shown that he

can be that playmaker. He needs to. He needs to fine tune his coverage a little bit and kind of get his game under control as far as getting penalties and late hits in that nature. But you can ride with a guy like that who goes one hundred miles an hour, no matter what position it is, no matter what snap it is, no matter what time in the game it is. He's going one hundred miles an hour. So you can live with that. You can go to war with that, and then the other guy has to

be trade on days. I mean, yes, he had his ups and downs. He's been getting beat by four touchdowns, but he's also fought and came back. I mean, look the receiving corps he had to go against his first six games as an NFL. I mean he had Julio Jones, DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett cut from LA, he had Roods. I mean, he had a lineup of receivers that I don't know any veteran corner would be able to go up there and have success again, So this guy had

his ups and downs. But he's done enough to be able to come back and I think be that number one corner for the secondary. But the rest of those guys, Whosier, Woods, Jay Lou want to throw in there. I think it's time for them to, you know, go look elsewhere. I think it will benefit like like the restkins say, it'll benefit both parties. Hadn't separate, all right, So so we need to blow this thing up and bring those two back and see what happens. I got five, got you

got five? Five? Yeah? Five? Okay, go ahead, name those guys. Please dig Diggs is one, obviously, yes, Tray digs Um. I'm bringing back Darian Thompson because he's a backup in my opinion, and you put him in a backup role and he's making one point three million dollars in twenty twenty one, so I'm bringing him back. I'll bring it back Wilson in twenty twenty one as a backup. He's making eight hundred and eighty one thousand dollars. I'm bringing

back Striker. I'll bring it back Wilson. I'll bring it back Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown next year got a salary of five point seven million dollars and I'm looking at him. There's a lot of money, a lot of bread. Um, Look, what do I need in this league. I'm gonna need three guys, are gonna need some debt. So you've paid him, and my hope is that a new defensive coordinator can get something out of him. But I'm bringing him back, Okay,

So I'm bringing him back and I'll bring it. I'll bring it back Reggie Robins, and for seven hundred and ninety two thousand dollars, here's a guy that you've already vested in and hopefully with a full offseason, the kid from Tulsa can give you something on special teams and give you something as a defensive back. So those are the guys I bringing back. What I do need. I need another starting corner on the other side of digs.

I need a starting I need two starting safeties. So so I go to at least three to possibly four guys to go with these other dudes. I'll bring it back. I got two questions. I got two questions. Is Anthony Brown's contract guarantee because you know, like I don't know, he might have had his first two years guarantee. Because I know he's having the three for fifteen, but I want to know if his second year is guaranteed. If so, then yes, he'll have to be back. And then my

second question is you bringing Reggie Robinson back? He could practice squad, practice squad. Okay, all right, all right, never listen. This year has made us forget that there is a practice squad, so we could bring we could bring them back, put him on practice squad, kind of developed them, kind of like we did Teddy Williams back in the day. You can still get him, you know, get him that way. Uh and NEWI I think you also are correct on

Anthony Brown. I think he's played well enough that he deserves another shot, you know, hopefully with a new defensive coordinator or at least new defensive back coach that can really get the most out of these guys. But yeah, Traymon Diggs, Anthony Brown h woods. You know, he's a no go for me because you know, he went out and embarrassed the whole defensive staff really about telling people that he couldn't hustle for for a full game. That's just going to stick with me, you know, as long

as he's here. And it makes no sense. But yet Wilson and Thompson, I think you still give those guys a shot. You bring them back and see what happens because they are on team freendly dials. And you said, if we plan on signing break Dak Prescott, then we're going to need to be on some have some team friendly deals going on. Thompson gonna be starting if we bring Prescott back. Church. Here's your here's some numbers here

for over the cap. On Anthony Brown, he's got a cat number next years at five point seven five million dollars. It's he takes up two point eight percent of the cat. That's not a lot. If you cut him before June first, it costs you three million dollars. If you're cutting him after, it's two point seven million dollars. And for me, you know, I'm thinking right now he's going to be my third quarter. At five point seven million dollars, that's not a lot.

You go when you look at Trevon dig he doesn't have a high number next year because he was a first round draft pick. And then I'm gonna go out most likely draft or sign another cornerback here. So for my corner room, that's not a lot. Of money, considering how many teams you're going to face in the NFL that want to throw the football. I just don't think that Anthony Brown is killing me. I don't look at him and say, oh my gosh, this dude is you know,

he's he's so put it like this. You'll ask Jaylen Smith to take a pay cut, and you'll figure out a way to lessen his money, then you will. Anthony Brown, in my opinion, that's true, that's true. I just think he's as I think of him as a three and I don't know how you guys, I think of him as a three. I think of as a guy that you know, you're gonna need some nickels and dime packages and so that's you know. Can he be one of my top three four dB corners. Yeah, I think he

can be that. But if you're looking at him to be a starter, then maybe you I think you might be a little bit. You might be a little bit often. And that's my thing about Wilson and Thompson. These guys as starters, you may not want them there as backups. Great, I mean that that that's just me. Um, yeah, I would I would agree. I would agree with you on

the Wilson, I mean on the Thompson. Think, if he's coming in, if we can keep him for that same kind of VET minimum deal, I think he'd be a valuable piece on that on that special team because, like like mcrais said earlier in the season, you know, we don't value special teams that much. We kind of just

throw guys out there. But if we can keep a guy like Thompson on that VET minimum deal and have him, you know, not waste his energy on defense but basically be nothing but a special teams player, I can get down with that. I can have him being a backup but a b you know, I think you talked me into to him being that third corner because, like you said, five point seven for a third you know nickel start starting Nickel corner. That's that's mediocre money for for a

starting Nickel corner. So I think he could the cap. Oh mediocre money, all right. So I said something about the contract months ago, and I got laughed off the show. Now he talking about mediocre about when we when we when we're talking about top ranked guys getting paid at the Nickel spot, they're getting paid you know, eleven and twelve million dollars at the nickel spot. So I would say five point seven is that that's that's mediocre, That's

that's medium, good road. Listen, it's a real contract. It is a real contra. Oh May, that's crazy. Medio point four million. So it's one point four million for Dicks next year, and and then the cap hit on Brown next year's five point point seven. So that is that right there comes out about seven point two million for

two of your top three starting corners. Um, that's that's that's good money in the national football And then so and I gotta think something on Wilson man, I just I just have a little bit more faith than him because my understanding is this guy essentially is a rookie because he's this is his first time really being a starter, and he went out there and made some serious plays, right, so he's you know, we're hoping that he's going to have a chance to go through a full offseason, learn

a full defensive scheme, have a full training camp, and have this year under his belt, and I can only see him going up from here now. Albeit last year I thought the same thing about some of these dbs. So you know, in football, you never really know, but I can just see his ceiling being pretty high. As long as as long as they make sure they develop him the correct way and put him in positions to

be successful. Well, Donovan Wilson should need to be a part of this conversation if you really think about standpoint of even not being back. I mean, here's a guy who's in his second year finally gets an opportunity. He's the cost for him said twenty twenty one is eight hundred and eighty one thousand dollars. In twenty twenty two

it's nine hundred and sixty six thousand. I mean, you know, for this kind of money and the production what we've seen so far, this is a good team friendly contract for the Cowboys, and you need a guy like that. Now I'm not saying they're gonna bring in Earl Thomas, but just let's say you go and you get a guy like in Earl Thomas, and then you have a guy like Wilson. To me, that's a perfect spot where you got two guys back, or maybe you want Wilson has started one spot and you pay a little bit

of money more money to Earl Thomas. But but you know, you have a cheaper guy there. And I go back to what I said before. If you're paying Dak Prescott, you've got to find ways, and you've got to find some bargains on your football team and drafting guys, especially guys who are in that fifth, you know, fifth, sixth round, who could come in here and help you as backups. This is going to be the key towards managing this

cap for the Cowboys. In my opinion, keep Earl Thomas well, yet keep L Thomas where he Keep Earl Thomas where he's away from the Dallas Cowboys. Please, Oh yeah, because look, if we pay, if we pay Prescott, we're gonna have to do a lot of bargain shopping on the defense. And as a safety. I don't think we need that Earl Thomas or that Justin Simmons, that high priced safety. I think we need somebody in the in the tray, Boston realm, who's a solid safety, who can be that

quarterback of the defense. Get these guys lined up, and someone who Wilson can learn after. And I think that's what we're gonna have to go since we're gonna give Dak Prescott probably fifty some millions, So I mean we're gonna do break, Okay, squeezing a break. The Cowboys may need a new offensive coordinator next year. We already think they need a defensive coordinator next year. Let's throw about some names about who could be some replacements with those

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the Stadium tab. Them new excrugs Longside Cowboys Report of joined by former Dallas Cowboys players Buried Church and Danny McCrae. We are in our SWBC Mortgage Virtual Home Studios. All right, I don't think that defensive coordinator Mike Nolan is coming back. I am not sold on what has happened in the last few weeks. It has been good for the Cowboys to see, but I'm sorry it took a little bit too long to get there. I just don't think Mike

Nolan is the guy. So if Mike Nolan's out, gentlemen, do you have any names of defensive coordinators that you would possibly like to see? Church, I'll start with you, man, I would love This is not gonna happen because I'm sure he'll get a head coaching job this offseason, but I would love to have a guy like Robert Sila, I mean, the guy open and with the forty nine ers. He just seems so energetic and just in tune with his players, and it seems like whoever's out there with him,

I mean, he's lost so many cats out there. Whoever's out there with him, they seem to just be you know, they played for him and they go hard for him. So I would love that for a guy like that to come here, But like I said, I extremely doubt it because he'll probably get a head coaching job elsewhere. But if we could, man, I'd be a hell of a hire. Okay, do you have a realistic candidate? How

about that? I ain't got a realistic, realistic candidate. But there is a defensive coordinator at the University of Toledo who as that defense rolling. And look, I know, I mean Tolio, we got we got some beef, you know. But I'm gonna take that out of there and say, hey, you mean he Toledo. They can do something for the

Dallas Cowboys. So we'll see, we'll see. Okay, Look, I don't know how much how much how much more realistic I'm gonna say perfect world and Church took my number one pick that in the ideal world that would be the guy. But you know, listen, this is gonna sound crazy, But if we're gonna run a three four defense, man, my man uncle Wade is sitting out there just waiting for a job, waiting for a defense that he can get a hold of and take to a Super Bowl

like he did out there in Denver. All right, And then we also have listen before I say this, I want to explain that sometimes defensive coordinators and offensive coordinat sometimes they become head coaches and then they kind of lose track of what they're really built on, and then they're not really as good as they had been previously. So I'm gonna throw dan Quinn out there because I know as a defensive as a defensive coordinator, as a defensive coordinator, I've seen what he is able to do

when he's focusing solely on defense. Now, his head coaching and giving up leads and all that stuff, I'm not sure about. But if you're gonna run a four three defense and you want to get some stuff done, I would say I would take a look at dan Quinn. No negative, Well, dan Quinn took over the defense. Um last season or twenty nineteen, he took over the defense and then failed spectacularly, and then gave it to Ring Morris and then they improved. So yeah, he couldn't even

call defenses anymore. So and then we just made him to focus. We just wanted to focus solely on defense. I feel I feel as though people have caught up to that Seattle skin. Um Gus brad thing out with the Chargers, that that thing has been a mess, and then they're all getting get ready to get fired there. Um, Seattle is not what's winning games. A defense is not what it's winning games of Seattle now. And that's even with them getting Jamal Adams in there. So so that

defensive thing is not the same. And oh, by the way, Gus Bradley and and Dan Quinn were coaching a defense that was good to secondary, Uh, this ain't it here. He coming here, he got a whole lot of pieces he can't bring with him. So, oh, listen, we're talking about revapping the whole defense. This is y'all's planning. Revamp the defense. Make sure you put your players in position to succeed. And you walk in here and you got d law you got Randy Gregor, you're talking about remapping

the secondary. You got Jalon Smith, you got late Vanderish. I think you give Dan Quinney these pieces, which some of them are similar to guys that he had in Seattle, and I think he could make something happen. I still don't. I still think we shouldn't have got rid of Christian Shard, who runs something similar. H So, I just that's my name that I would throw out there as a possibility. I got a question now, is is Romeo? Is Romeo Cornell available or is he still because he is he

coaching somewhere right now. He will be the interim coach in Houston, but I imagine what he'll do is remain in Houston as some type of consultant because he and the owner are cool. But Romeo is another guy running at three to four. Um. I just think that I just don't see the Cowboys being able to run a three four and pay Dak Prescott because you got that three four. But what do you got to have? You need man corners. Man corners cost a lot of money.

And I remember Bill Polly and talking about when he was with the Colts that they had spent so much money on offense. One reason why they had made the change from from Vic Fangio and more as the head coach over to Tony Dungee was that they were running you know, they were having more of zones and it was cheaper to get the corners and you could actually get them out there a whole lot quicker. But you saved money. I mean, you do that man thing, you know, you know, are you ready to sit up here and

pay guys? They didn't want to pay Byron Jones. So I just don't know if they can afford to do that in terms of the kind of costs it would take for the three four defense and also just the resources you need. You know, the cowboys from Parcels was here, they run at three four and running away. They were spending that kind of money on defense. They were using number one picks on defense. They want to do that here. They want to be got to show you won't have

the money after you signed that. I mean, that's that's the kink right there, right the kink. So so stop so right there, uncle, Wait people, Okay, that's what I'm saying. I gotta list, Okay, I gotta litt You've got a guy in the building right now. And George Jetwards who was there with Zimmer at Minnesota, And I don't know if anybody notices that defense was not the same this year, and George Edwards was out there with Zim doing that. So he's the guy who's now with the Cowboys. I

would consider him. Um, Joe Witt is a guy that Mike McCarthy was going to bring here. In fact, I'm told Joe Witt, who was with McCarthy and Green Bay, was told he get the DC job, but then it went to Mike Nolan. Now with is not you know, so he's not there. Um, you know, with with McCarthy. Let me figure out where did I see? Where is Joe? I know what happened last time I brought one of McCarthy's buddies in here. Yeah, I was gonna say if if McCarthy, I don't know, I don't know, man, I

don't know. I don't be a part of this process. Man, defensive guy Church Church, he listened to guy that's previously that is currently in the building with this. Okay, okay, that's good. That's a good that's good. Now offline, offline, we can have a conversation about that about Intel offline, about about with that one. So this is what I got on h on Joe with he's now the Falcon Secondary.

He's with the Falcon Secondary and um um saying, sayce McCarthy had told him he'd be the DC, but when he hired Nolan, Joe was not happy, says Joe is that dude should have been a defensive coordinator a couple of years ago and McCarthy blocked it. So that's a name right there. Aubrey Pleasant, who's the cornerback coach with the Rams. I think we've seen the Rams run a pretty good defense this year. So there's some guys there.

And before I bring in dan Quinn to run my defense, I'd bring in a guy who was running the defense better than dan Quinn was doing it in Atlanta, and that was Raheem Morris. You know, they're they're all about to get right out of the tea. So there's some names. There's some names right there. And look, I don't know how the Cowboys and how sort of people feel about Chris Richard. My issue with Chris Richard was that Richard was trying to marry his system and Marion Ellie system,

and you just can't blend two systems together. If they were gonna let Marion Ellie, I mean, let let Chris do it, they should have let Chris do it. One of the things he wanted to do was bring him linebacker coach Michael Barrow to be that guy he'd worked with in Seattle. They're like, no, no, we're gonna go with Ben Bloom. I mean, we all saw how how bad. Okay, we all saw that. Hold on, hold on, hold on, because listen, I heard you. I keep hearing you talking

about Raheem More? Was raheem More something with Jerome Henderson up there stinking up to joint uh in their secondary when they was like thirty second in the league a couple of years ago. Was that? Is this the Raheem More is that we're talking about talking about him? Over? Dan quick give give quinn. He was the coach. He was said, I think he taught twenty eighteen maybe twenty

eighteen up there stinking it up. Man. Listen, listen, let let Dan dan Quinn is trash that whole brother Quinn dan Quinn ain't been the same since Tom Brady and then just ruined his life. He ain't been the same since. Let's take a break. You're right, you right, so we're something back. Let's dive into Kellen Moore. Let's dive into Kelly Moore. He takes I've often scored in if he leaves right here? All the players Hotels dot Com. Each game, Jay,

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I'm not gonna for twa I'm not gonna hate on them, man, because when that cheerleader show came on Netflix, I watched. I've been watched the whole season, all right, So I'm sure if I sit down and watched Making the Team for the Dallas Cowboys, I'll probably get into it. But right now my play is a little full. Which which cheerleaders show? Was that? The one? Was that? The one with those the did Juko over there and uh here in technas? Yeah? College, Yeah, yeah, that was that one

I watched. Yeah, you saw what happened to your boy jar a couple of weeks ago, didn't you hold on? First of all, that that's reality TV. You watched it? Yeah, yeah, that's all okay, all right, because because you know, you make it sound like you don't watch no reality TV. Yeah, my children were watching it on the slides. I was like, let me get up in here and figure out what it is. Oh, oh okay, Yeah, yeah, you we watched

the whole season. I did. I watched it, watched it all because I also I'm I'm I'm one of those that I'm not a cheerleading person at all. And you know, I watched Bring It On all. I'm like, oh gosh, this is terrible. And my youngest is that's the last one. If I get that one away from it, I'm gonna be okay. But yeah, I watched it. So but that guy Jerry It recently got arrested for um child pornography charges. Goodness. Yeah, so yeah, yeah he's in, He is in. He got

a world of trouble. Um got a little bit boys sending pictures and stuff. So yeah, that that guy from that show is yeah, send him to jail. Got arrested up there in Chicago is a couple of weeks back. So yeah, I tweeted the story out. But let's talk about the Cowboys. Yes, let's talk about the Cowboys offense. Uh. Kellen Moore up for the Boise State job. He spoke

to the media yesterday. Um, you know, very vague, but at the same time say, hey, look it's special to place that you know, I'm from, the opportunity I would look at which is what you what you'd expect. He's like, I'm concentrating on this. Let it play out. YadA ya da, which to me is all coach speak for yeah, I'll take the job. I loved that. I hope they offered

to him. So if Kellen Moore gets a job, and I'm going to believe that he will, because right now they save the candidates for Kellen Moore and then the defensive coordinator Oregon who is also a former Boysey State player. But usually these offensive guys are whose schools want versus the defensive guys. So Kellen Moore takes a job. Mccraig, who should be the offensive coordinator next year? Goodness great? The my dan Quinn, the opinion got shut down. I

might you know, I might need to be quiet. No, king, listen, the first first first stuff for a selection should be me because I'm giving the ball to twenty one and nineteen. But since I'm not available because my play is full and I'm running these these U camps, I would say I would say my first look realistically would be the Alabama Crimson Tides offensive coordinator Steve Star Sarkeesian. All Right, we see that that Joe Brady can get some stuff done. Yes, man,

have you seen the offense Knui? Have you seen what they've been able to put together and the guys and he's been able to develop? All right, I'm going with him first. And then uh, you know, was it Brian Doble for the Bills? If we can get them up out of there, those guys have been able to turn Uh, Josh Allen and Digs and Cole Beasley and and Singletary and Zach Mass they've been they've turned into a real nice offense. So those are the two two guys that

I'm looking at first. I don't know, man, I don't know what one thing with Kelly about his job before I touch on this OC thing. He definitely got that boys. He stage job. I mean, when you got guys like Jerry Jones back in you saying, hey, we had to we had to put the Brakes on him a little bit, or he would explode it too much. When you got guys, he got the job, he got the job. But for me, man, I'm not sure. I'm not sure who we bring in

here as an offensive coordinator. Man, I think it's got to be somebody who values the run game more than Kellen Moore did. Seeing is that we had the ninety million dollars. We got so much invested in Zeke, and there's no way we can get out of the contract, I believe until I think twenty twenty three. So we got to bring somebody in here who values the run game and who he's created with the run game. And to me, that might be a guy like Greg Roman.

I mean, look what he's doing up there in Baltimore. Yes, he has Lamar Jackson and all that good stuff, but the way he's able to have his creative run game and confusing defenses we've seen with how it confused our defense up there, I think that'd be a good staple piece for this offense. Especially Zeke Elliott back there with his ninety million dollars. He'd make the best out of him. I think he'd be a good candidate. Hello, let me preface my pick. Let me preface my pick by saying this,

Mike McCarthy should be calling the plays next season. Steve Sarkisian should be here to learn and help Mike McCarthy do some things that he hasn't seen at the college level and bring some creativity. Mike McCarthy should should be the guy holding that car and making those play calls next season. Okay, Okay, Can I start with Sarkisian? Absolutely? Okay. Steve was Dan Quinn's coordinator for two years in Atlantic, so so he's been to the proms and he went

back to Alabama. So from what I have seen from Sark and what I've been reading from people like Bruce Fellman who cover college football, Sarks kind of waiting on another collegiate job and coming here to watch Mike McCarthy call plays is not something that I think he would do. I believe is he a bad hire? Is he a bad hire? Would he be? Would he be it? Would he be a bad hire? Yes? And here's here, here's why I think Mike McCarthy should be calling plays. And

I think Mike McCarthy wants to call plays. I think Mike McCarthy would like a situation like what Andy Reid is doing in Kansas City. Where Andy's here, he's got an offensive coordinator and a guy who helps build the game play, who works with a lot. But then you're on game day, he's going to get out there. You can pull out that Loue sheet look at and call his plays. I think that's what he wants to do. What's what we see with Sean Payton doing here. So

I think Mike McCarthy is just like those guys. So maybe you make Doug Nutsmier. You're a quote unquote offensive coordinator while while Mike has calling the plays. That's what I envision, That's what I think will happen here. So if I'm a guy like Sark, I don't touch this. If I'm Sark, I mean to me, if you're Sark, the best thing to do is stay where you're at an Alabama because you probably are gonna get yourself a

head coach again. Um, it happened for Mike Loxley, so so I would say, if I'm sorry, just just hang out where you are. You just saw DeVante Smith be named the Associated Press College Football Player of the Year and Matt Jones finished second Alabama quarterback. So there's two guys right there, so I wouldn't be touching the pros. I'd stay right well, get ready to get busy agetting college football, where he was once a head coach at Washington and USC. It was new, costing him those jobs

well new. The question. The question was who would we like to see? I know, sorry, probably ain't coming here, but if I want, that's that's why I want to see come here. It's the smart thing for ever do. Yeah, what would be to stay in college because he's he's running up, just like Damo Semina who's probably never gonna leave college because he's running it, running stuff over there. Uh,

at Clemson, they shouldn't come here. But if I if I want to see, you know, some new blood coming here and some creative things, then I'm going to the college level to bring something different to help Mike McCarthy out. All right, all right, but I want McCarthy, but you want McCarthy call a plays too, right? Absolutely? Yeah, okay, yeah, and that yeah, that's that's my thing is is and

to me, this is his opportunity in the now. Nuts Meyer has been a successful college um coordinator as well, so I actually I have a favorable opinion of him. And look, I don't know what happened with John Kittner and why McCarthy didn't want to keep him, but if you were able to make Doug nusts Meyer your go from quarterback coach the offensive coordinator, you brought back a guy like Kittna who Dak Prescott had so much uh in common and connection with, that'd be that'd be good, Bobby.

But we'll see, we'll see McCarthy's got his list of guys from the barn and we'll see what he does. But I just I just think the guy wants to call call plays there. Booker McFarlane was on ESPN and he decided that Dwayne Haskins, Dwayne Haskins is a problem and that Dwayne Haskins and other black players are all like Dwayne Haskins where they're concerned about their brand and they don't put in the work. And yeah, he went

places that were frankly embarrassing. I just thought they were embarrassing. And he thought he was killing them too with his take too. This is gonna hit, this is gonna hit their ear. Drums man, They're gonna feel every word I'm saying, and I'm just like, man, look, man, I don't think you should have went that hard on the kid. Like at the end of the day, Man, Look, he made a mistake. Was it a dumb mistake? Yes, it was an immature mistake, yes, But the kid was twenty two

years old. Man. It ain't like he's riding around here, you know, drunk driving, running into people, killing people, or bringing handguns in there. He made a mistake, and look, it cost him his job at the end of the day. That should be it. Man. You shouldn't rope him into all this other new you know, we got brands and the African American community doesn't know how to how to basically win and all this other stuff. I you know, I just think he went a little bit too hard

on to get kid. Man. He made a mistake, and hopefully he gets a second chance somewhere. Yeah. Look, I don't care to you write church, but I don't care how hard he went on Dwayne Haskins, When you make this a general thing of African American players in the NFL not being able to focus on more than one thing at once, building your brand, working hard, making some money, and also being discipline enough to show up and be professional and saying that this is a huge problem throughout

the NFL. Then you made a mistake, especially when you just basing it off what Dwayne Haskins did. All three of us can come and we can name a plethora of guys who have been able to do everything that book of McFarland said that they couldn't do and also be professional, show up, win super Bowls, win MVPs, and

do all types of things. So to me, it just makes no sense for him to rope in the entire African African American community in the NFL and say that this is this is what most of us are doing, and this is how most of us act once we get to the league, and that's why stuff doesn't work for us. Doesn't make sense. He's absolutely wrong and made no sense. And I was ashamed to hear one of

my LSU guys sound like that. My first thought when I actually watched the clip on Twitter because I didn't watch it live, I'm like, Dad, that's why Booker mcfarlo's not doing money that football, because he would go on money saying some crazy doing. I'm saying some more crazy stuff. Look Dwayne Haskins earned the flogging he's taken. Okay, he's earned, But to turn it around and make it seem as though it's old. You just what happened When you get

these negroes in here. They can't getting on Twitter and putting Instagram photos themselves, and they can't concentrate. That's how it came off to me. And lord knows, if there was a white general manager somebody saying that white broadcaster, they that person would have paid dearly for saying those kind of comments, because it was asinine and ignorant. Okay,

that's what it was. It was asinine and ignorant. There are too many guys in this league, black and white, as Danny said, who've been able to build brains, who've been able to do both. And there are also plenty of guys that we could point to besides a Dwayne Haskins who took their opportunity and flushed it down the toilet. Anybody remember Johnny Football, Okay, Johnny Football out here with drugs, Johnny Football, I here skipping and hopping to Vegas with

Cat Dui drinking in draft. You know you know that they said he was out here beating his girl. I mean, Johnny had a whole bunch of stuff talk about who got flushing away his opportunity. It is not just black players, it is players in general across every sport. We can go and look and say, hey, look this guy didn't do this and this to make it seem as though it's an African American thing is but black guys. That's

the part that was distasteful. Like, dude, dude, hold on, now, okay, this is not just some racial thing here where you black guys. No, it's players in general, and it's players at every sport. In fact, it's you go look at the entertainment industry and I worked in LA I can tell you plenty of people who blue opportunities who because they weren't focused on the jobs. I mean, this is a This is that I can tell your TV industry.

I mean, it happens. It happens. And to go how deep he went instead of just sticking to the topics, Hey, Dwayne Haskins blew his opportunity through immaturity and deserve to get fired that he should have just kept it there when he just tried to generalize it to me, I just think he went way out of bounds. And that's that's Booker, That's just what he does. It's why he got fired from money football, church, church. You know what he saund like, Like I brought this up earlier. He

sound like one of them old school haters. Man. They hating on the new school. Yeah, and they got social media. Like things are different, you know what I'm saying. Like people make money a different way posting stuff on Twitter and Instagram. Ain't nothing wrong with that. The Internet is one of the biggest ways to make money now and grow your platform to do good things or band well however you want to do it. But that's the new generations, man.

So he just sound like one of them dudes, hating that he didn't have had and stuff available to him back in the day and looking at the young guys going out here and doing it and making these selds better and growing their platform in ways that he couldn't and just hating on him. Bro, No hate, You ain't got to hate. Bro. Beat me happy for the next generation. Lebron will be a thirty five or thirty six tomorrow. He's got a heavy social media presence. Tiger Woods is

over forty years old. He'll you know he'll be forty maybe forty four, forty five tomorrow. I got the same day Saint Birthday as Lebron James Scember thirty. Um, these guys have been able to do both. Um, it was just it was just a crazy comment. But as I said, man, that's just Booker just saying what he does. And I just I just think it's wrong. I'll be look a look at a guy like Jayalen Smith who ended up going back to order dame it. We know Jalen has

been building his brand. We've seen Tank Lawrence building his brand. We've seen Baker Mayfield, Baker Mayfields put out his brand. Baker Mayfield got commercials all day long. He just got drilled by the Jets. Um, so you know you're beating up on it. That's true. You know what's you know, did Jayalen not have a good year this season because he was building his brand? That's what you know. Guys can do both and you can have good seasons, you

can have bad seasons. You have ups and downs. But to take Dwayne Haskins and basically say it's a whole race of people, Um, that's crazy. That's crazy. All right, back at it, we'll get back at it tomorrow. I got some bad news for Church where we have the Players Lounge tomorrow. Um, that's how you leave. Yeah, it just it's what it is. It's just gonna be this way.

But that's why we're gonna get into it tomorrow on the Players Lives Humpday edition as we get ready for Cowboys Eagles Cowboys Giants, which will be at MetLife Stadium and the Cowboys need the Eagles to defeat Washington to make it to the playoffs. For Barry Church, Danny mcrant, producer Chrispy on New Restricts, thank you so much for checking out Players Lounge, brought you by Hotels dot Com on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio the Playoffs j G.

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