Player's Lounge: Who's Sweating Now?

believe it. I know, man, you're nervous, you're sweating. You know. I don't know what it is about the studio, But as soon as I get up in here, man, I don't know, the beads start, you know, swelling up on top of my head. I feel some drips coming down in the studio. This man camera action. I guess home studio. It ain't like this home studio. It ain't like, oh we know you got a really really nice home. Here. Church out here sweating like some of these veterans are

like me, oho, what you said? The oddsworld on my man, Big Mike, you got that sweat on the two oh oh oh yeah, yeah, we'll die, we will die into to Mike McCarthy and, uh, the hot seat there, this is the player's lounge job. Danny McCrae back for a second week in a row. Here, former Dallas Cowboys saying number forty there's buried church. Number forty two, Dallas Cowboys safety. I've new we scruggs merely a reporter for the Cowboys Emmy Award. When for a minute or two minute, two, Um,

I was reading Matthew McConaughey's book Green Lights. Actually I wasn't reading it. He read it. So the audio book is really good. And the Cowboys used to train in Austin. That's when I first over the team, Jimmy's last year, and there was a black club on sixth Street called um Cafier Station. And a couple of years later, maybe a year or two that I remember, the white guy was a waiter at the Cafis station. Okay, come to find out it was Matthew McConaughey, and I did not

know it. He said, it's an audio book. It was in the audi book. He say, yeah, I got a jab a Caafi station. My best friend worked on six Street two about five or six clubs down called Whiteley's, And I said, was that McConaughey, the white guy waiter. He's like, yep, so he was. So it sounds like he was the only hit. Okay, yeah, black It was a black again. It was all black club. He was. He was the only white guy grew up in. So he's invited to the cookoun Oh yeah, yeah, okay, but

check out his audio book. Check out his audio book. But those were fun days. But I remember one time running the Emmin and Michael Irvin and Kafier station out there end during training camp. That'd be a dangerous spot to have can six Street right there, I mean, you know an ox Now we way off in the cut somewhere when the podcast is over, it is over. There was one bar called the Copper Tank on sixth Street. And I tell people all the time, this was when

the media member and me lived off the Cowboy. You went the team a little bit, do you know, Yes, I do, I know, I know, yeah, yeah said of course he walked through out here his microphone in his pocket to get the club. Hey, you didn't have to, you just walked in with you walked in with the right Yes, I see didn't come back, but we had the medium pass back then. Yes this is who I am. Yes, yes, I leached off. That was twenty three years old, living

off the county man, living right out the cowboy. Because after a while, you know, they couldn't get to them. So you know you was next up there. You got no single I was a single man. I was a bachelor. I did bachelor thing. The walls can talk, yes on the wall. So Las Vegas came out with odds this week that have Mike McCarthy as the first head coach to lose his job seven to one odds. You know, they got bets on everything, you know, bets on everything now and so yeah, yeah, they got Mike McCarthy is

the number one guy. Oh man, I don't see it. I mean, I know you see his hot, his seat being not hot right now. I don't think when Jerry's reaching almost eighty years old, I don't think we can do. Anything is possible. Yeah, he wants to win. Now, we know Jerry wants it right and anything right, so anything is possible. I don't think. I mean, I did not foresee this defense becoming making as many wholesale changes they did. We knew that bey changes. I didn't think there'd be

this many. But this is Jerry saying okay. I mean Jerry finally said Jason, I love you, but I can't do this anymore. So I don't know what if he's

disappointed again, I don't know what he'll do. I will never forget the two looks on this man's face when they lost at New England and they had Tom Brady and Belichick against him the game they should have won lost on special teams, the anger and disappointment, and then the tears he had after Buffalo beat them on Thanksgiving Day and cold beans they got carried off the feet. I mean they made the man cry. So I'm sitting here looking at this. This is as he's getting older.

You take this stuff more and more personally, and if you look at it, he's in a win now mode. I mean they feel like they got they got their leader, Dak Prescott. He's under contract. He's ready to roll their offense. In my opinion, it could be a top five offense, especially with that receiving corps. You got a health the Tyren Smith like l Collins coming back, so they can run the ball a little bit and Uh, I mean, I just to me, I think he thinks this offense

is geared to go. It's geared to go. We got to make some changes on defense, Like you said, we got a wholesale change. But he's ready to win now. And he's like, look, McCarthy out to let you bring your boy Nolling in. Now you're bringing in Dan Quinn. Something's got to work. If this don't work, I'll let you bring in all your guys. I'll let you get the tools that Dan and Quinn needs to get this defense going. If we don't get this thing rolling in

the right direction, somebody got to go. I'm not taking it, So somebody got to go. I'm gonna tell you why this man seat is hot, all right, and it's it's not because of the record that they had last season. It's because of the performance and the lack of buying from the players, all right. They have not come out and looked that way. And I don't know how many years. I mean, at least when JJ was here, we was losing it. We was going eight and eight. Competitive balled

in and we were losing team. You never had that question, and then last season it was so obvious where everybody saw it and everybody called it out. You had players coming then talking about they're not running to the ball. Uh, the guys talking about watch the film and the film was horrible. Like you had all these bad things going on, you know, inside the team and in the locker room with Jerry's like, nah, if we see that again, we're

gonna have that same issue. Do you think mccraid, do you think that a lot of that, you know, turmoil and all that, you know inside the locker room, all that stuff. You think that had a lot to do with their leaders not being in there. You know, Dak Prescott being out. You know, a lot of young guys trying to take that leadership role to the next level,

but they weren't able to do that. You think they had a lot to do with, you know, the turmoil inside the locker room and just the at odds it seemed like the coaches and the players were at Yeah. I think I think it had a lot to do with the leaders, But I also think it had a lot to do with the staff. I don't think the staff came in and and figured out a way to get these guys to buy into what they were selling. Um and that's from the Waite staff. You know we got voice uh he left some they had a new

Waite staff, they had a new guy come in. They had to buy in for that. The dB coaches, we obviously know that nobody was buying into. And then we had no idea what's going on offense. We talked about it on the show all the time. What is the identity of the offense. So you got players on the offense who have no idea what the identity is and what they should expect for the upcoming game. And the defense was atrocious. So I mean it all on all levels it was. It was bad. So if you have

another season of that, those odds are right. In the only movie, well Prince made two movies, but the only movie that was a hitting Purple Rain, the club owner, Billy says the Prince because he ain't calling the kids kid, I got three acts, I ain't got room for four. But it kicked them kicked, but themorrow not ell. So homeboy picks up, picks up that guitar, goes to the stage and busts out Purple rained. Big Mike. Better, I

could have had a crowd waving like that. Better happening tears and then come out with following up with baby I'm a Star. I mean he's gonna have to perform like that because Mary Jones does not have time to waste, he does not have years to spend. He's giving you the money and the resource. I mean, you guys have been to different teams. You in Chicago, you were up there in Jacksonville. What else could you ask for? You can't when you talk about facilities, finances for the team,

I mean everything is here. You've got a tremendous practice facility, You've got a tremendous stadium. There's no excuses. You got it all right there. And as a player, I mean, what else do you want from the Cowboys? I mean off the field, you make so much money. I mean it's ridiculous with that star on your helmet. Like you said, you got all the practice facilities, all the best equipment, you got the top end at everything you can have.

But for some reason, we haven't been able to translate that into w's So I think we gotta get this. Like you said, mccraige, he has to put his imprint on this team. He has to get this philosophy going in the direction that he wants it to go or he's gonna go down with the ship. Like he said, I mean, we gotta win now. Jerry's in the win now mode. And if Quinn and do that, I mean we've seen it done. You gonna have to ships. Well, you know, I'm Quinn top ten this season, all right,

I'm telling you this top ten this season. That's so I'm not even worried about that. I'm worried about did you go to your tail practice? You know I didn't know. I did not go to ok First of all, that don't matter, all right. You gotta get out there and put your ham on on somebody. That's when we'll know if these guys really came to play, you know, like I know, Ota practices none padded practices, that's what they are. They are none the football as a contact sports. So

you never really know. I run out there and tag somebody off right now, that don't mean enough. Going to get out there in week one, don't try to strike strike when the tackle it's not. It's not the same. So they can look as good as they want to. We can have the twenty eleven Tyron Smith and that coming out here saying he got the best, the most in shape, tackles all they want to, But until you get out there in between those lines and put that

helmet on somebody, you have no idea. What do you think these OTAs, these that's all in this mini camp that they're gonna have, do you think it'll prove dividends? I mean because last year we didn't have it. We didn't have OTAs, we didn't have none of that, and you know the proof was in the pudding as what we saw for the regular season. So do you think they can improve what these OTA's going on right? I

think I think absolutely. I think them going back to a four to three, things that they are are familiar with, and then being able to put dan Quinn's little touch on it, I think that'll help a lot. I think the biggest part of last year was they switched the

entire scheme around. These guys had not done this in their football careers, and then we asked them to do it with no OTA's a really really light training camp and then going to Week one against some pretty pretty good offenses and and and try to produce and it didn't work out. So getting back to a four to three, getting back to the basics getting out here and Dan Quinn like being able to put his imprint so they

understand what he wants. He wants them to hustle. He's going to get out there on the front line and show this is what I want from you and if you can't do it, then you won't be on this team. So get it that and getting that attitude out on this defense. I think it's gonna help top ten and knew it. This is why the Players Lounge is. It's just a different podcast than the other ones because if you listen to the break and just their thoughts on the OTAs, there's a whole lot of positives and you

just came right out there. You just pour coal. How many times have you, like seen somebody say bro Ota was bad, like they went on on analysts came out or whatever. And at the end of OTA, it was like, we had a horrible OTAs. I just was gonna actually mention one guy from the OTA talk about we're talking about had no Demante CAZy. Okay, that's your that's your boy, and that's your boy. I'm gonna necessarily say it's my boy.

As much as I had stressed it, I thought Dan Quinn needed to be able to bring in his own coaches and some players who understood this skame and coming off an achilles, he looked like, Okay, this is a guy who's going to be able to play this fault and help this team, because we were wanting is he gonna make a club? To make the club? I know it's an OTA, but he was out there and he was very active, and I just said to myself, Okay, this is a player who might be able to help them.

And Demante Kazy when when he was healthy, was a playmaker for the Atlanta Falcons. They need to playmakers here. So that to me, what I took away from the OTA was, Hey, look for a guy coming off in achilles, I think, you know so far better than I thought.

This could be good. And that's a hell of a sign that he's even participating in this early part of OTA's where it's kind of just you know, you got individual drills, you got a couple of team drills here and there, But for him to even be out there with them, that's a huge sign because I would have thought, you know, he would have been on the sidelines with Britt doing those band works and just getting accumated. I'm all over right now to getting back onto the field.

But like you said, he's out there, he's doing his drills and he looks good. So for me, that's a that's a hell of a sign for this defense because the one thing I preached sense the offseason was they needed a guy back there, and you as well knew that they needed a guy back there that can control this defense, that can be the quarterback there in the secondary,

has a linebacker crew in that front seven. You got veterans down there, Jalen Smith, Lve that can control that, get those d linemen and everybody moved in the right direction. But you didn't have that at the safety. So they brought in Casey. He knows the system, and for him being out there this early in OTAs, that's a heck

of a sign because he knows it. And if he's healthy enough to get back even even three fourths of what he was a ball hockey safety back there, that'll prove dividends for this defense and hopefully he'll be able to improve out there. So it sounds like you're a preaching for the top ten. To me. You got veteran linebackers, you got the first round. You was I just last season saying Diggs he's gonna prove and he's gonna be the top eight cornerback and all of sudden getting them.

So what I'm saying, he got Tank Launch, you got Randy Gregor who came on at the end of the season. I mean, if you put together everything that we never gallop more than the New the New show Stoppers. So if you put together all this stuff that we have been talking about collectively on the players, now this sounds like a pretty good defense coming up this season. Who wa, I'm saying, I'm putting putting it all together. I really brought up a positive that I saw from and I

wanted to point that out while you were poo pooing everything. No, no, no, see, ain't gonnew he'd like to do that. I was not poo pooing OTAs I said, I will not watch your ota and then say, you know what, We're gonna have a hell of a team based off what I've seen. That's That's what I'm saying. And I'm not even say I just really wanted to. I saw a player that I was not expecting to see out there a lot, so and I said Okay, this to me is a good time because we've spoken before. Hey, look, you know

the guys contracts not guaranteed. Here what you know, what's gonna happen. Dave Hellman Dallas Cowboys dot Com and read his work. He spoke with him, and um, he said he kind of wasn't expecting you out there. He says, I know a lot of people weren't. And he also spoke about how he was thankful to find a team and just you know that whole NFL life. Okay, this is what happens. You know, you free agent year, get hurt,

and you know where folks at, where the offers. So's he's here, and it sounds as though he wants to prove something on a one year contract. Old Hall of Fame man and baseball major Sparky Anderson said if he had twenty three guys or twenty five man ross of one year dudes on a contract, he said he went the World Series every year because everybody be out there trying to make sure that he was out there to get a new deal. So if Kazy is here, he

understands his defense and he's got something to prove. Looking at his tracker head, in the past on the upside of the flip side this, this could be good. So many times we've seen these signings that just have not worked out around here. Don Terry Pole last year, Gerald McCoy, Everson Griffin. You just look, he's got a man this one year. And I'm just really saying, as I look at the OTA, I can say, all right, so far one practice in, this guy's doing more than I thought

he would be doing. And maybe this could be a signing that helps his football team. Lord knows, dan Quinn need somebody who can't understand he did. He definitely needs. And it sounds like he got kind of a chip on his shoulder. I mean, and you like that. I like that about him because it sounds like when he came in there Helm and was tacle to him, He's like, yeah, I know, I know, I got doubters. I know y'all don't think I'm gonna go out there and go out

there and be able to prove something. A lot of cats, including myself, thinks, hey, he might not even make the take. But for him to go out there and he's not doing a lot of you know, Ron, Ron, I'm back, I'm here. He just you know, a being humble. I'm just I'm thankful for the opportunity to the Cowboys gave me, and now I'm out here and I got to prove my word. And you love that. You love leaders like that, and I hope he brings that to the whole defense.

That just that's just that leading, that camaraderie, getting them all boys together, getting them fired up. And hopefully he can do that but remain healthy as well, because we're gonna need a free safety back there. Old only. I'm just gonna, you know, reverse and go back to something that you said. It sounds like you listen, Jeral McCoy and Terry Poe, those are two very very different things

that happened to those guys. Okay, as far as didn't work out, Jermy Kog got hurt when we talked about done. Terry Poe, it was it was bad. My man wasn't out there, one of those those guys who wasn't buying in, wasn't hustling, and you could see it, see it noticeably on film. I've been out for a while, so where's Gerald at this time? He's still on the marketing right, so you know, I know we had discussed them possibly

coming back and all this stuff. You never know. I just know there was some stories earlier, back earlier, and where you know, hey, you know McCoy might want to come back, but you knew where I was. I missed my brother Stephen. Stephen had done a radio interview and and and somebody asked him about it. And you know, Stephen just being the open minded personnel guys, Oh you know, yeah, I could be. And and you know they had been

in communication. But once we saw what happened in the drafting where they went, No, I go back to what Bill parcels us to talk about about progress stoppers. Bill was big on that. He's like, you know, we don't need progress stoppers. If you've got some of these younger guys, the best that's the way they're gonna get better is letting them play. Gerald McCoy's an injured player. Hurt players at that age ten to stay hurt. He came here. They had a contract, I mean thinking about they had

a clause that contract. Hey man, you hurt that quality, we get go ahead and get you on out of here. Yeah, I'll sign it. It It happened hurt the quad and got him on that and didn't cost him anything, So why are we bringing him back? I'm just Tyron Smith. Huh, Tyre Smith. Geral McCoy, you were talking about players. You know that we got a lot of players that age. When they get hurt, you just stay hurt. And that I'm just kidding that. That was not good right there.

Your your honor, Gerald McCoy is an older player than Tyron Smith, and your honor, Tyron Smith is an all decade player. Gerald McCoy's not your honor. Tampa Bay rolled out Gerald McCoy and despite his years of service to the organization, gladly gave his number two in Dominican Sue and they moved forward without him. Meanwhile, Gerald went to Carolina, you still get in life. I don't care what you know. Carolina said, we don't need you out there, saying, uh, yeah, no.

The Cowboys was a bad, bad bad man. He shout out the time. Man, I hope the other great seasons. Tope. He's a twenty eleven guy. He was at the the OTA. Know they had him doing some seven on seven drill work. He in Collins, he love Collins. Both went out there just some seven one. Now it was against air. I'm gonna say, because if you give it the church last week after and I see this contest, and that hurt you because he said he wasn't doing anything and the

story last half he jumped a snap. You know, it's different anything between them, Lyne. They're taking costion with four and keeping him on the low. So they did some work with bread on the side, and then they ended up leaving for a while. Then they came back and they put him out there on the seven on seven drill when nobody was touching them, and and and so so that was fine. You're saying, Dak, you know, making sure nobody was around touching Dak either Dak um Dak

was making the progress you wanted to see. Okay, Okay, So I think if you were a football fan out there and you saw Dak the way we saw Dak, Okay, all right, it's coming along, it's come still not it's still not you know Dak, you know, and is he is he? Is he springing off there? Or can you he rolled out? You know? Did he rolled out on his own? Throw through a bomb to a We got video right here, so the video or Dak right there? So he ended up rolling out through a through a

deep pass to um ceedee lamb. It got picked off by Burton. But you know that that to me was a positive that you can say, all right, all right, hey look you know he can go out here and he can move okay. And Dak said, hey, I'm you know, I'm a fool goal. But you know, is he ready to come out here and play football game? I don't. I wouldn't say that. But to me, what are you looking at right now here? And Meg, you want to see progress? And what I saw from him, I said, okay,

I see some progress. That's true. You still got you know, six six months, he's change, he's from change, and they keep talking about he's on pace. He's doing the things he needs to do. So for me, that was another positive, like when I saw Demantre Demante k Okay, yes, we're seeing we're seeing some progress versus you coming out there. That's what you didn't want to say. We don't want that be not ready. I mean we still got already. Know you know what I'm saying, we can roll them

out that we want to get Tom Brady. I ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna say, Devin White, I ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna says the answer, But I'm telling you, are we hoping that our first round pick Mica can be as good as Devin White? Are you seeing that type of talent from this guy? I'm going to give you a comparison someone gave about Micah Parsons and um the Dallas Cowboys dot comtract magazine that people

forgotten the BATA. Let's take a break, come back and talk about number eleven and also someone who made a switch of their number as well. It's diving into that radio on the players louds in Barry Church, Danny mccraham, Newey Scrugs is stas Cowboys dot com radio. Adjust your cleats, adjust your pads, even adjust your helmet, but seriously, don't adjust your underwear because once it's seen, it cannot be unseen. Tommy John's fabric keeps you cool and dry on the

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You gotta get them tickets. Baby, yes her seventeen game season this year. Seventeen game season. Man. I know, earlier I was like, you know, it's like one more game, ain't that? Man? But now I got to think about it. I mean, weeks fifteen sixteen, you're like, man, practice seem hard, you know. So that's a long one. That's a long that's a long stay. And if you think about our bow weeks early, I think it's like week like week six or seven, you got ten, ten eleven straight weeks

of ball. Man. That's that's it is. Look, this is long. This is why you're going to really have to develop a good practice team. You have some guys as you're looking at hey, you know, working and getting better. And we talked before about three of the last four games from the Dallas Cowboys on the schedule NFC's game. So you know, at the end, all right, let's just just just picking it up right here. December twelve at Washington, December nineteenth at the Giants. December twenty six, it's a

home game against Washington on NBC Sunday Night Football. Then Sunday January second, it's a home game against Kyler Murray in Arizona. And then the season ends January nine at Philadelphia. So this is a this is a you know, this is a little chunk right here. The these final these final five games, and you know, and then you can go back to New Orleans start December second. You know, that's a road game, so you're ed with one to

three four road games and two at home. So this is a this is a tough stretch for the Cowboys after that Thanksgiving Vegas game, so they so you gotta take advantage early. Just hearing January ninth is a regular as a regular season games like the college football uh National Championship on that Monday. So just hearing that time and it's still a regulars something to get you know when super Bowl is right when the day before Valentine

is Worth thirteenth in Los Angeles. Oh, there's gonna be a lot of upset husbands or a lot of upset wives. You think about from when camp starts, which is when August mid August. Yeah, man, all the way into if you if you make allow runs day, what decision y'all

making in that? In that? Uh? If you if you are a fan or one of those guys who goes to the super Bowl annually, they go every year, and now this year's Valentine's Day, and you got to tell a wife, I'm going to the super Bowl or I'm going on a trip with you or something to do something with you Valentine's Day? Which one are you choosing? We can make it a weekend. You know what you got about two super Bowl tickets running you? Abouy said,

But I actually, actually you really don't. You really don't. First Office in Los Angeles. Okay, okay, so so you you know you can make that a trick. You can do one of the Barry spots like that beach. Maybe I got you set up here the little spot, you know, the Church villa. You know they'll be all set up right there. Church can get to the game, do his thing. You go because we thirteenth Sunday downtime day's Monday, so boom there you go straight. So you know, yeah, okay,

that's that's not happen to no mind. Now, don't do my wife. Don't do the valentinized day with her. And that's the weekend. If that's our day on Monday, ain't that's Saturday Sunday, and this Monday you better have something else. Sounds like sounds like you problem, that's new. We take the dogs ball walk, Take the dogs ball Walk. I'll you got six dollars. You see me Monday, Monday. You will see me in l a X getting on my flight to come home. Let him know the game is

on NBC and I'll be in the game. That's right, that's running you on that red eye. Yet the flat guy canceled. I love you, I love it, I love it. What happened to me? All right? So let's get into Michael Parsons, the Cowboys rookie number eleven. So I went back and was looking at the Star magazine and it was Doug Ferrar follow him on Twitter covers the National Football League, and he spoke about how good he thought

Michael Parsons could be. And he said, think of everything you love about Jamal Adams and now envisioned that in a linebacker. That's Michael Parsons. Okay, because he can get away with that, because Jamal Adams is definitely I think one of the premier box in the box linebacker or safety. I think he could. He's one of the premier just run defenders in the box, playmaker type guys. I could see that at the Parsons because I don't think they're gonna ask Parsons to go out there and lock tight

ends up like they ask. You know, Jamal Adams too, and he gets worked. He's a liability and coverage so I don't think they're gonna ask that of Parsons. I think he might have to guard maybe some running backs out of the backfield. I know Washington got a couple of good ones, but overall, I think he can be that type of defender where Jamal Adams in the box he's elite, you know, maybe outside of the box in

space he's not, but in the box he's elite. And I think that's what they're gonna ask Michael Parsons to do. And I think if he's able to come with it, I think he can be a he can be an elite box defender. Man. That's a that's an interesting take because now I gotta ask you, if you are starting your defense, who are you picking? Then, Devin White? Are you picking Jamal ad Him and Jamal Adams? Because I'm going Devin White. I mean, I'm sorry, I meant them,

I'm sorry. And here's what I come back with what you just said. They're blue chip players. Absolutely give me a blue chip player. This defense does not have a blue chip player in my opinion right now. And so if Michael Parsons can can get up here, we're talking about him in a conversation of a Devin White and a Jamal Adams. If you're the fairy Dallas Cowboys fan, you should be as absolutely yeah, And that's what I'm looking for. Do you do you have a blue chip player?

And it seems from looking at him on his film and then just talking to different folks around here about them, they're excited about what the football player can be, so we'll see what's the drop off of not playing a year. But they think this is a blue chip football player, and I think we can all agree. We thought they needed to get some help, some blue chip help on defense. I thought it may be the corner. That's what the

church now waiting on. Didn't happen. But Michael Parsons, if you're telling me this guy could be a linebacker version of Jamal Adams Signia, I mean, look what they asked Devin White to do don near in Tampa. I mean they ask them to, you know, be sadline the sideline. Basically, he's rolling everywhere. He got so much speed he can roll everywhere. And they ask him to rush the pastor as well, because I believe he had I don't know if it was this year or last ye had like

eight sacks eight and half sacks. So they asked him to be that box defender. And then they ask um Lavonte David to be that cover guy, to be, you know, to cover the Travis Kelce. He's the cover the guys out of the backfield. So I think for sure Parsons can do that. He can run sideline the sideline if he just uses his instincts and he just focuses on what he gotta be doing. I think he can be an elite box defender. You gotta ask him the wise running backs here and there. But I think he can

rush the pastor. I mean, if you look at this tape out of Penn State, he had about eight sacks that year. Last year he played at Penn State. So he can come off the edge, you can rush the pastor. He can be that sideline, the sideline just go get him, tackler guy. So I think he could. He could. He can make an impact in that box. I just want to see what he can do in space. I mean, I know he has to the athleticism, he has to speed, explosiveness, but he can he translate that to the field in

space because that's where the NFL is going out. It's a space game NFL. The offenses are gonna put you out in the eleven personnel, they're gonna empty out the backfield, They're gonna make you cover guys in space. Can he do that? If he can, he can be elite. I think I think that's the biggest part. I think when you talk about linebackers like Devin White, um and what they're able to do. It's in space, right you see

him covering running play side out of sideline. But when you see somebody catch a bubble screen or the running back catch a swing pass, the guy is out there. He's making those tackles in space. He's rushing up the middle, he's rushing off the edge. He's able to do all that. So you're not able to say this guy can only do one thing. If he's lined up here, then he has to be covering somebody. If he's lined up here, has to be rushing. So having that versatility at the

linebacker position is big. So I want to see Michael He's a first round draft pick, so I want to see him be able to do do that. Just in what you guys spoke about here in terms of linebacker play and and and being in coverage. You think about some of the the players that they're going to face you on the schedule. You've got, you know, just the tightest Rob Gronkowski right up right out the bat over there at Tampa Bay. Um Hunter Henry's left Los Angeles.

But it heats what New England now, I believe Smith Okay, So so they're on the schedule there, so you've got you know, Philadelphia has got Dallas Goddard, Um, the Giants have, Evan Ingram said. Then you got to you got Hunter Henry john Smith over there in New England. Denver's got um what's the kid funt? Noah funt, no fan no Atlanta, Kyle Pitts and hay You got Las Vegas Darren Waller out there all right, look at look at this, Look at Okay, let me just go through. You don't even

you didn't even list the running backs yet. Okay, you about Washington and and then you got you got some. You got Sanders just starting November seven. Okay, November seven. Just from a tight end standpoint, you've got You've got no fun no a fan of Denver. Then it's Atlanta. So you got Pitts in Hayton Hurst. Then you got the next game is Travis Kelsey. Then after that you got Darren wall caller of Vegas. Mmmm. I mean it's stacked up right now. You got got Washington for two games.

They got the big kid Jordan damage to us last year. So if you're linebacker, like your linebackers, like I said, they have to be able to do all things. You gotta be able to cover tackle in Russian. If you can't do that, you will get exposals. Let me ask you a question, if you if if we're asking Parsons to be the the Devin White of the of the linebacking corps, who who's gonna be lave Monte David, Like, Who's because that's the guy who's covering these titis Lvee.

Jalen Smith possibly who had a lot of He had a lot of run with uh at training camp, I mean, but at the OTA as well. This is this is the great challenge for dan Quinn. How does he figure out how to get all this done. I'll say this for Jalen Smith and for Layton Banderash, they know you gonna have to prove it this year. Yeah, Vanderesh's contractors up. They declined the fifty year deal, so he's playing for a new deal. Jalen Smith, you have to understand and

know they drafted a guy your spot. So if anything, one or two things will happen. Either these guys are gonna be really good because they're playing for their playoff lodge, or they'll be bad enough. The Cowboys could just say, you know what, thank you very much. We got a young gut buying them right. What's from? Uh, what's the young linebacker name? I know you're talking about fifty seven? Luke? Is it Luke? How the young guys behind LV and

Jalen not excluding Michael Parsons. I think it's too early to tell you. We'll see, but I still go back the un Neil is going to get some play and we'll see it's it's gonna be active. The beauty is from what I could tell is, hey, look there's gonna be some competition, and let's see what happens in these preseason games. And I'm looking forward to it. And plus we talk about all these games right here. You know there's gonna be people gonna get hurt. We know this.

It's a National Football League, so there's gonna be some opportunities here. Just be ready for your opportunity when it comes your way. And we thought, we thought last year there was term boil in the locker room, you know, players talking about coaches can't talk or coaches can't coach and all this other stuff. Imagine one of these VET dudes lose the job, get get benched. It's gonna be what type of team or what type of players are

are they gonna be? Because that's that's a lot of termoil to take when you get your job taken as a as a as a starter. You're in the Vetnus League and you were suppose he was the man last year and then somebody else came in, It's gonna be some turmoil in there. Now, what type of players do we have? Do we have the type that you know what I you know, he took my spot. Let me help this guy learn, Let me help this guy be the best player he can be so he can help

our team in the end. Or is he just gonna We're gonna get a bunch of powders and they're just like, man, you know what I can it's dude starting over me. I can't believe that. I'll tell you this um the fact that the defense was so bad last year and then put everybody on notice that this may possibly happen to him. I think it's gonna sting, But I don't think it'd be that big of a surprise for some of these guys, right, I don't think it's many guys on the defense they can say I was the man

last year. And sacred and really feel that way, I think, And then we keep talking about like covering the tight ends and the running backs. One thing we know about dan Quinn's defense is it's gonna be a lot to get to your spot, get your eyes at the quarterback break, and make those tackles. So you're gonna have to have guys who know the zone coverage, the drops, the weaknesses, and they have to be able to come and tackle in space. Those are the type of guys you're gonna

have to have starting out there on your defense. So if it's Jalen, if it's Lve, if it's Jabril Cox, they're gonna find the right people to get out there. And then when they go man on man, I think they're gonna bring those safeties in and find out who can cover those tight ends and who has the bigger advantage of getting out there on that defense. Talking about the safeties, we saw jay Ron Curse out there running with some ones. That's a bigger safety. He was out there.

So there. Look, they had a lot of folks going in out. It was dan Quinn's put people. It was it was good. You saw folks go and now a lots of practice boom ba boom. You your turn here. I know it's just one ota, but when you look at what you saw last year and you look at this, there's a difference. Listen. That's why I gotta get new yet, So listen because I gotta keep breaking down. When I say OTA and you don't really know nothing. I'm not talking about them being able to know the defense and

learn the scheme. I'm talking about who's gonna hit, who's gonna tackle the stuff that we're talking about. When you gotta plan breaking drive is no longer tagging off like. You gotta get out there and you gotta be able to punish those guys and hit them and turn their pass backwards. So I think the OT is gonna be great for them being able to learn dan Quinn system and getting those right spots. And that's that's where I'm at, right, Yes, yes, yes,

to that point. Yeah, that's yeah, absolutely, O. Tas are great for that versus last year. But Church has seeing some stuff to where you too, where guys look great out there when you don't have to tackle everybody. Look, yeah, and all of a sudden you start forgetting stuff because you're worried about who coming up here to shake you or who's gonna juke you? And all of a sudden, you look like you never did any OTAs because you don't have that pressure getting out there and have to

make those doubts. Well, it was so bad last year. This is this is where I'm celebrating. Okay, but the defense was just so bad lasting I'm sitting around to celebrate. Yeah, yes, you know you calling top ten. I just got some loyal spectations that could just be better than last I'm saying top ten, and I'm still hard on them, So I'm just just McCray and McCray. You notice for a fact, well we're gonna have to see is when these safeties

are in the buzz hook situation. When I say buzz hook, you buzz into the numbers and your responsibility is the curl or you're getting underneath the curl or the seven

route and the flat. Now when you got a guy running the seven route behind you, but you see execue Elliott coming out on the little one of the little bubble one of the little bubble uh bubble screen that bubble screen old flat routs, a little flat route by the running back, and you gotta make your choice, do you let him catch it with all that space no one had the high elusive and how big he is, you got to tackle him one on one or you go hug up on him to make sure he ain't

got that room to take the catch and you give up the big bond behind you. It's a lot of different factors when you get pads on because you know what out past, I'm gonna just run up there. But when you see that big boy with them paga, I don't want to get up on him quick ye meet him in the whole one time man laid it hurt and then you'd be like, you know what I gotta I started. I gotta start getting a head start. And to that, to that, I mean we could get on

Ezekiel Eller. That's why you think. I think that they have to run them early because that stuff hurts when they When Ezekiel Eller is able to punish guys in the first quarter, so when you get to the third and fourth quarter, nobody want to tackle this dude. That's why you start seeing those four or five six yard runs because they've been getting punished since the beginning of the game. Now, when you get five carries in the first half. Everybody worried about that agreed, So that's offensive.

Defense goes goes the same. So we'll see, man, you get some Let's all right, let's get get another break in here. We haven't talked about the other big number switch. There were two switches that I noticed on the field, so but one got a little bit more publicity than the other at the ot A. Let's dive into that right here on the players lounge. Danny McCrae berry Church, We scrugs. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. There's nothing as unique as our eyes, which is why Selor

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half million dollars to switch from number fifty four? How much is that? How much? How much? People in the back almost five hundred thousand clear eyed view. Thank you, gentlemen. Let me read this from Jalen Smith. The number nine is more than a number to me. It is a part of me, always has been. I was nine years old.

This number has helped me learn how to handle hardship with grace, and understanding the true meaning and symbolism behind the number nine awakened my spirit and has guided me throughout my whole life warn this number through Peewee Middle school, high school, and college. It's been represented in all facets of my life, even with the five plus four equals nine, and I'm excited to be wearing it now with the Cowboys. I'm thankful, humbled, and motivated more than ever, locked in

and ready for the twenty twenty one season. As always, I'm ready for the opportunity and I'll do whatever it takes for us to dominate this year. On defense, you've got my word blessings, hashtag nine on me, hashtag clear eye view. What you think this is? This is this the type of stuff that happens, and players put this type of pressure on themselves and then if it doesn't work out, you see him, you know, go a little crazy. They have no idea what to do. They don't understand

the media going after him and all that stuff. So I'm hopeful that my man has a great season. Sometimes you got to go back to the basics and figure out something to lean on, and I think that's what he did. He actually realized that last season was the season that he had hoped to have, so he's just trying to find any way to get him motivated to play like he used to play. So if it works for him, great, But I wouldn't have done it. I

definitely wouldn't pay five hundred thousand dollars for it. But I also don't have its money as Jalen, So I can't speak on that man's five dances, but I don't think it would have been smart for me. I hope he has a great season, but as of right now, based off the film that we saw last year, he said, have stayed in that fifty four and made a new name for us. So yeah, to me, I'm right there with you, man, I mean I'm right there with you. Five. First of all, I mean I'm not in the same

tax bracket as Jayles Smith. So I mean he gave five hundred bands. If my name, if my last name is in Gates, Musk Jones, something like that, you ain't get buffet, buffet, You ain't getting five hundred bands from me. I mean, the NFL already takes everything. If you tie your shoelaces wrong, they're trying to get they're trying to find you for some money. Your socks is too high.

They trying to find you for some money. So I'll be damned if I'm ever giving any type of money back to the NFL or back to the Cowboys after they gave me my bread. And then you gotta think about you giving them five hundred thousand dollars to take I mean we talked about this other day. You've given them five hundred thousand dollars to take this, to take all the fifty fours away. Then they're gonna turn around and make more money, Jersey. So you just you're just

stacking it up, all stacking it up. So to me, I wouldn't have done it, not only because of the financial stuff, but because he had his best statistical season, I think his best season as a pro in that number fifty four. I mean, yes, this this last year. I mean it was a it was a down year for him, but he can come back with that. And I'm a very superstitious dude, So you know I switched up that that number. It's like, oh man, I don't know, I don't I don't know about that. I tied my

shoelaces the same, make sure everything's right. So you're switching up that number. You're putting a lot of pressure on yourself, Like you said mcgraire, You're putting a lot of pressure because if things start going wrong that first game he's out there, if he misses a couple of tackles or gets done in in the open field, the media is gonna be all Overma. He's switching that number nine. You ain't represent the number nine right, and all this other stuff.

And you know, I see the other side of it though, because they acted like this number nine. Romo was a great que he was a good quarterback, but I mean he didn't do things Danny White went further in the in the playoffs that Romo did. He got everybody Nam wearing the leven out here. So for me, I wouldn't have did it financial reasons. And then I'm superstitious like that. So I don't know. Maybe he can change his new thing and make number nine, you know, a defensive number.

But you know, we'll see what does he do if this year doesn't go well? Does he go back? He can't get back now. Now he can't go back. Now what is this new team? Because he will be on a new team. He does not play with you go snatch the number nine at the new team or is it the start off a bread new like? These are the things that you have to think about. If you have ultimate confidence in yourself, that's fine, better on yourself,

uh Todd France. But but but if but if you don't know, and you've been struggling in a while and you're really trying to get get back on the right, right, right track, man, just put your fifty four on. Go out there, and you know what I'm saying, be quiet and ball out. You know, you gotta do the clariff you think because you got your bread bread, you have

to make your money. But I mean, just focus on the focus on the game, focus on covering the time, focus on planning and break and try your hardest to do that. I understand. You gotta do what you gotta do to make yourself feel a little better. If it works for him, congratulations, But if not, it's gonna be sure, it's gonna be it's gonna be a hell of off seasons. You two dudes, why started that hashtag? Stop Jalen hate,

Stop Jalen hate. Number one? Okay, first thing I'd have done, and this is a question I would like that, asked Jail and privately, did you call you CPA? Can this be a tax break? Can you somehow write this off as a business expense for you with fifty four? Because somehow, some way, and I'm sure you know Jayling's one of

these guys, he's hold in the business. Maybe he has a business the clear ride of year dot dot dot, because I know you know, so that's my first thing, So maybe we maybe speak of what we know, right so, but I'm just thinking in my head that's the first thing I would say, Hey, how can I figure out a way to write this thing down? Number two? He wasn't good last year, but we also understand this was

anybody really put in a proper position last year? It got me up to me, one of the most mind boggling things I saw about the defense last year was whn't they switched the two linebackers from the two positions that they had success at and had made Pro Bowls ads? And why are we switching them? They put these guys to me, you put them, You put the two linebackers in places that they didn't need to be any hurt them. So I would like to say, let's see I mean, okay,

And this goes back into h Charms human resource. Everybody deserves a chance to fail, Like you're so fine, you get a chance to fail. And I feel like they're gonna give jayl and a chance. Hey man, here's your new defense. We're gonna put you right over here. Let's see what you do. Hold on, he knows he's up against it. Hold on, man, Listen that that would all be valid, right if there were eleven people on the

defense who believed that they had bad seasons. All right, there's one person on that defense who watched that film and say, you know what, I went to damn bad watch the table. So yeah, I don't I don't that that discounts exactly what you said. This guys, what you said at the end. I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm not talking about so like every everybody played bad? What that man don't think he played bad. I'm just talking about So we just gotta just so, CB just

hit me with this, CB, Chris being my producer. What if Jabril Cox comes in, takes the number fifty four, it's open, takes umber fifty four, goes out there and he's balling out he's but he takes over. He's balling out in the fifty four does does does? Does? That? Put even more pressure on him. The press is gone out there. Listencause this is what we talked about. So dan Quinn, he listen. He's on the line as well.

The last dude came in here and got fired after a season, all right, So dan Quinn not gonna come in here and assume that if he come and have elct lust a year, that he's gonna be guaranteed to be here to the season after right, So with his job on the line as well, because he might be tied to McArthur, who has the highest odds of being fired uh this season the first coach out of there. They all know that their jobs on the line and

they have to perform great. So I don't think they're gonna lean on Jalen h if he's not performing well. If you have a guy behind him who's a ball hawking guy who's proven to be able to go get those interceptions and cause those fumbles. If he's balling, he's gonna play. But this is but this is also what you want. You want competition. You want you want the competition. He comes from Seattle, where Pete Carroll's whole book is

called Compete every Day. So that's fine. I look, I don't have any issues with these guys going out here. Also understanding, look, no more sager cows here. You know too many years people have walked around knew and they had a job and if they messed up, you heard an excuse to be a may I'm all for it. I'm all for it all day long. Another topic we need to get to here on the players. Luck to Jalen too, by the way, good luck now, yeah, good luck to you. Wow? Right there, No listens, listen. That's

as a former player. As a former player, I want all these dudes to get up there, play well, make their money and don't have to deal with no hate, no hatunds like but sound. But when when you go out here and you made these type of decisions, you have to be ready for some criticism and then that should put that chip on your shoulder to make you go out there improve that the move that you made was rick, I want him to ball out, OK, but I watched the tape, so I wanted to play better

than he played last year. Speaking of moves back, m offensive consultants new former former New York Giants tach coach is the last man to take the Giants to the playoffs, and he's coming down to Gas. He's a consultant. He was with your Jacks last year. He was He was with the Jags wanting they won the first game, won the first game and lost. The consulting about what are you consulting on? It reminds me a lot of kiffing. This gives me a lot of kiffing bags. Remember Kiffer

came in here as as the defensive consultant. I man Kiffin couldn't even remember the play that he called. By time that we got into church, remembers we used to be in that mean Roally should be like this dude just lost all track of what the hell he's talking about. He was talking to the d M and then he'd be like, hey, you gotta dropping the third place? Wait, what about you need? The same kid was older, you know, he was a little older. Movie. I wouldn't what specifically

well mcind was consulting on. Yeah, he's got killing Moore right there he went. You know, he was a tight ends coach for for Big Minke and Green Bay. Then he ended up moving to coach quarterbacks, and so he coached the quarterbacks with Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty thirteen. That helped him get the Giants offensive coordinator job, and then he ended up becoming the head coach when they ran off Tom Coughlin. So consultant is a whole lot of things. I mean, we saw Jason brought his brother

over to be offensive quality assistant and not consultant quality assists. Different. Let me tell you something. The three positions that you just named, we don't need no consultants on all right, and tighten our starting tighteny end went down the second straight tighty and came down and ball can I actually, I'll defend it from this one standpoint, okay. And the Nick Saban course of is nobody's nobody gathers more consultants

than Nick Saban. That's all he's doing. This guy, you know, your career goes to Smithreens, you go on Nick and he's your consultants or whatever until you get to the next thing. Brett Bielema became a consultant for Alabama and then next thing you know, he was got a position coach with New England. I had a head coach hub for Eleanor I believe, and in the Big ten and Butch Jones, who had got fired at Tennessee ended up as a consultant and now he's a head coach of

the Arkansas State Charlie Strong with there. So maybe this is Mike's thing. And you know, all these coaches we take care of each other. You know, you just be a consultant and I'll tell you to look at whatever whatever. But this is boys taking care of all That's all it is. Yeah, that's you didn't learn your lesson with Nolan And then usually you talking about Nick Saban. Nick Saban is also a winner the whole bunch of national championships. So what happens when you go to Knick Sabman people

assuming that you've learned something? All right? Now, So you come consult over here after going seven to nine and having one of the most atrocious efforts that we've seen from a team, and talk about you know, this is who you're gonna consult for. Yeah, you're not getting me much. Let me defend what you just said from this standpoint. You brought up Mike Noel, you made him your defensive coordinator. Back of dudes, gonna be a coordinator. He's a consultant,

so he's behind the scenes. You're a problem in hire, Mike. No, you gave this man real responsibility and then you your offensive guy. You clearly you turned your back and was over here with Kellen and and didn't pay attention to everything he was going on behind you, and and that was a problem. So I just asked, he's just consulting. So is it a thumbs up or thumbs down from me? Listen,

I'm gonna say it. Let me finish with it, because Big Mike is known to give everybody free rein all right, So we don't know what the hell macad gonna be back there doing because we had the special see coach out there calling all type of face my man Nolan. Nolan won't given no like when they was having their coaches me that man Nolan was putting up no game plan. He was like, I'm gonna take care of this. I show, I show you on Sunday. So we don't know what

Macadu got going on. But listen, if he can help thumbs up, thumbs up, we can get a question if the if the ship starts going down, Big Mike gonna take over the reins calling plays. The last year it was just going down here, Mike. Mike was like, you got this killer, you got head, gonna give me one more year, one more year. Mac blamaback, you made a couple bad. Okay, are you guys beating up on mcado. I don't know, I don't. I don't think we needed

anything on offense. And you think you're gonna bring in the consultant console on defense console in the secondary console the linebacker position, not the D line position because the dan Quinn is the guy. But we got we got dan Quinn. Yeah, baby stop, baby Edwards a defensive consulting remember that. Yeah, it's just true. But but the last time I saw George Edwards out there, that rookie can't

he was coaching the linebackers. He was, he was coaching, you know, and Kelly Keller watch out come over total. You need Kelly, Kelly, go over there, lord. This is what this is what Aaron Rodgers was doing you if you want to, if you want to, if you want to learn from somebody who coached the best, you come to me. And killing he ain't really coaching the bock you know. They fighting like like Dack out coached Super Bowl MVPs and and elin Man, it comes and come

and come highlight. But if you want to listen to chilling, keep listening to going ahead. I start sitting on the ground MC dinner. How good that you know? Back back back after practice, Let's get it, let's get it right. Head pointing my head at one point right here, Dack and back chill, Keller looking out the window and the top room. We're acting off Keller Man, Keller, Kelly gonna be a good man. I'm just saying, what Mcca doing?

What are you doing? Because you just said George it was he's coaching now and it seems to be like Backerd's a strong personality type of guy. It's his last name. I mean, he's gonna take over the rule. You know, consult theyin't gonna last below. How did you feel about Julio Jones? Julio, listen, my man been injured. They've talked about giving the first round picks for the cat and I'm like, bro, he's been on my fantasy team for two years. Why you could I know? Ain't that somebody

don't give him a first round of too? And you will be a gonna give for who I'm telling the man I got bad hands? Would you say? Players dad age injured? He's pulling it to man, My man got bad. Julio, he got bad twenty eleven, Tyn Smith twenty eleven. Julio he coming back and then he's not even doing He probably need to do an ota so he not ain't gonna be in real shit, that's true. A first round of somebody won't give it to him. Somebody's gonna give

it to him. Yeah, they have remorse Jayla Rams. He was out there pushing forward and come to the Rams. So but I heard somebody saying, you at least got to give up like some de hop stuff. I say what, they didn't give up much for second round. Yeah, so if you can find a way to swindle that, yeah, go ahead. But given the first round is nah, that might have been just homeboy screw in Houston was right.

Might have been let me. I just believe anybody that spends a first round pick on Julio Jones is foolish because you're you're you're trying to buy a guy a vision of a guy who used to be great. He's a good player when healthy, but the problem is he's just not that healthy and to pay that kind of money and give up a first round pick and we what we know, um next year in terms of the salary cap, they're not expecting it to still gonna be, you know, kind of kind of tight because of COVID.

So I wouldn't be doing that if you felt like you were one player way. But I don't think Julio's. The teams i'm hearing are not one player way. I have heard that New England may be in there, but we know New England's not giving up a one. That's just not what they do that. That's just not what they're gonna do for it seems like with New England they got the two tight ends that they're trying to go back to that old um what does that shoot?

A reading run running when they had Yeah, and they got a receiver too though they spent a lot of money on. And keep in mind, okay, we know how this this media thing works. The falcons will set up here and tell somebody, yeah, we got somebody. Somebody want the one. So that's what you say to put it out there. That's true. I mean, that's that that benefits them to go tell some some reporter, we got a one. Somebody's gonna offers someone. Well, if that was the case,

why you deal? Yeah? Why do you take that? Okay? Right? If you offer me and what sure? Soul? Soul soul? The first though you can make an agreement. It's like three days, Okay, but you can. I mean, what hold? The whole golf deal wasn't official until whatever, but they still made the deal. What does is a rod standing Green Bay? Well, he'd be a pack in there, I do. I do think so as well. I think Aaron Rodgers will not be traded this year. Goodings might be fired,

but I don't think a Rod going anywhere. Aaron Rodgers is not going to be traded this year. Do you think he's saying not? At the end of the day, they they were for the last two years since they decided that Mike McCarthy was the wrong guy. They've gone twenty six and six and they have been to the NFC Championship Game twice. They are trying to use Aaron Rodgers to make a Super Bowl this year and league

MVP after this season. When I was listening to Andrew Brandt, who used to be the money man for the Green Bay Packers, and they thought he had a great take on Serious XM radio. And he's got his own podcast. He said. Oh, by the way, I've been here, boys been here. It's with far and Rogers, he said. But they're going to keep him this year and then after this year they'll be done and they're gonna give the give it to George Love. Can't give to George Love

right that, because you haven't seen him do anything. He didn't have he didn't have an opportunity for OTA's mini camps preseason games. So, um, while Aaron is away right now, Geordan Loved, you're gonna get your opportunity to show what you can do. And one of the things do what you do job and Nicki Saint Brown. So they're going to use this opportunity for Jordan Love to show them

what they can do. And one of the things that Andrew Brand spoke about is while Brett Farr was was staying away, Aaron Rodgers showed them that he could command the offense and understood what he was doing. So that was his time. So let's see if Jordan Love is smart enough to take advantage of his opportunities. But I don't think they're going to trade him. You're talking about the cost of trading him, and they're trying to win. You were in a wind now window. So and I

don't think Jordan loves that good. I mean, they've had to see him do reps out there. I mean he's had to practice at least on the scout team at least, you know, something like that some regard and I don't think they got a lot of faith in them. That's why they keep hyping up a run because he's talking crazy about him. He's talking crazy about the factors, and they just, oh, that's our guy. They deserve all them

as they talk. Because we was all sitting there looking like, did they draft the quarterback in the He made started it? They definitely started up in the draft draft, and he made all those receivers better than what we thought they would be. He's playing with Alan's army. Outside of Adams, you got tight end Aaron Rodgers League MVP MVP. So I mean, yeah, he can talk all that, man. Yeah, but I just I see Aaron playing. Yeah, and I

think this will be the last year there. So, by the way, Friday Night, baby, you think it's going three three old? They can't stop Luca, come, I think it's what you think, playoff P. They're gonna get him. He put stress on. He put pressure on himself, like how Jaylen switched her number. I'm playoff. Ain't nobody give you that nickname. I'm playoff put what he said to the guess y'all hadn't seen playoff P. You're Barkin said, they don't call me championship chucks. The most damning thing and

you can see it on YouTube. But the most damning thing is when they asked Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony because they all went to the point of the Oklahoma City and they asked about Playoff P, like what And I was like, whoa Russell laugh He's like, oh, that's what he call him up, playoff And Carmelo's smirking, and he's like, I'm gonna let you answer that he's playoff He laughing, and Russell's laugh like your own guys, your own dudes are laughing at you calling yourself playoff P.

The Clippers have now lost five straight playoff games going in the last year, and so if you're down three, oh, it's truly a rap. But if I'm tylu I write on the clipboard what Pat Riley wrote in Game three of the two thousand and six NBA Finals, and the Mavericks were up two oh and they were thirteen points or six minutes to go, he wrote on a clipboard, just held it up, said season, wrote clipboards, you look

do season, Tyler, you need to do that. He need to read that, and he better make show Pat Beverley to not guard Luca. That's what he need to do, says two six. He probably known for defense. I'm fired Doc Rivers over defense. Steve Bamber fired Doc because he didn't like what he was doing on defense with the big man um and and decided that, you know, you

gotta go. And I'm look at Philly. You see that, yes, but you see that Jeff that they have on Twitter when said when Pat Man guards Luca Lucas reaction, he said, I know that. Who aren't think it is so the season? I mean, really, this is this is the whole Tonight is the season. And if I'm Rick Carlisle, I write the same thing on my on a black board. Season, guys, we can make our season tonight by going out here

and sticking it to these guys go ahead, fit. These dudes want to be finished, finished them, but tonight go up three oh finished these games. But you said they fired dark rules because of the defense you see at watching that Dallas game. They are switching. They are letting this man switch and get Pat Beverly on him every single time. Don't try They're trying to make sense of it. But this is what happens when the owners get in bom Steve Steve Bomber is out here killing my dog.

Steve Steve Bomber sat up here and place the blame. And I mean, and I go back to also when they lost. You know, go in the press conference, you got Morris, and you got Kawhi talking about how you know this was supposed to be that year, and then you got playoff piece in nah, we didn't think it was gonna be that. He was transition year. So you

got guys on different pages. Woods, you got Stephen A. Smith saying Kawhi is out, Kawhi's going to Miami because that means they're just gonna be left with playoff pe and that bad contract. And then they gave him all that money because they gave up all those picks to Oklahoma City to go get him, and it's it's Clipperland gonna be messed up because Kawai. Why would Kahi come back? I mean, personally, the Mavericks and a whole bunch of folks when Kawhi opts out need to be on the phone.

What's gonna take especially the man bring him on down here. They're gonna punish the night though, But I'm looking forward to scene real quick before before we get probably like what he's going on with these real quick? Who won Kawami Brown or everybody else? Who you who you got? Let me tell yourself. I don't know about everybody else, but I watched a little the video to Stephen they put when he had the highlight was a lottle light. Yea Kwami that was shocked in the food version, Yeah

it was. It was pretty bad, But I haven't seen all Kwami stiff. But Stephen. They went on Stephen. They even responded like he the first responded. But personally, I mean, at the end of the day, what they said about him as a player was true. Yeah, this guy was a bad number one pick. He was not a good player. Yeah, and he went personal with folks. But what they were saying about him as a player. That wasn't Those weren't

cheap shot. Those were facts. But what I don't like about what he keeps saying is, yeah, you can't tell another black man down like that said. Their job is to critique and do and analyze what's going on on the basketball court. That don't have nothing to do with them trying to take care of you as a black man. They people to just talk good about everybody even though they're doing playing like garbage. Like stop, I'm gonna like stop bringing that everybody at your career was a failure. Yeah,

everything ain't that bro okay. At the end of the day, Kwami Brown's career as an NBA basketball player was a bust. That is not a cheap shot. That is just merely pure fact. Steven A. Smith put the videos out there, and you just saw you play for seven different teams and you just were not a good basketball player. I'm not sure what Mike willball On, Stephen A. Smith, Mark Spears, or anybody else over at ESPN is supposed to say about you as a player. I'm sorry, you weren't good.

You weren't even Javelle McGee at least JaVale McGee was a part of a couple of championship teams. It was you tried to help some folks out, and you know, but you you weren't that. And I can definitely say this because I've been around a lot of those guys. They've done a lot to help black men and black athletes and black coaches. They've done that. Those aren't the

people to say that they haven't. You can disagree at times with their take on things, but to sit around here act like those guys haven't helped people, you can't say that at all. You really cannot say that at all. Or picked up the banner and just raised awareness for things that are going on. I hate to see that they've got it into this type of level where we're just sitting around here, you blasting each other in this

form and fashion. But he wasn't a good player, and Michael Jordan drafted him, and these are the kinds of things. And you know, I'm a Mike guy. That's my guys dog team, but I can't defend these kinds of decisions that Michael's made through the drafted Kwammy Brown. You drafted uh Adam Morrison. I mean, you drafted some dudes, and you're just bad and just what are you doing? You drafted he might have found one with uh no, misch cup Chack found they drafted Malik Monk and didn't take Spider,

who's like killing it up there. And you taught me that they you talked about missus man and he missed it on Brandon Away. Michael's teams have missed bad and and that's part of he chose Kwammy Brown and messed up. But that is that. Hey, look all right, we were twelve minutes over minutes over CB. Chris Beam, our producer. We appreciate it is always all right. Fun stuff, Dan, Danny mccraig number forty, Barry Church number forty two, knew

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