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Cowboys players, and this is their show. They give us the insights that they had as guys who wore the Star. Danny McCray and Barry Church. Gentlemen, how we doing McCraw, I'll start with you, man, I'm good man. Just another week of quarantine for me. Man, just in the house, you know, looking at these same windows, searching for new TV show to watch. All right, what's the last good TV show you watched? McCrae. Uh Man. I started Animal Kingdom probably a week ago, and I'm all all the

way through season four now, so I'm enjoying it. It's very similar to Sons of Anarchy if you liked that show. I haven't seen Sons of Anarchy, but I did watch that Jeffrey Epstein show. You told me to watch watch that. I didn't see that. Yes, the Justice System, huh so I was very very revealing. So if anybody has not watched that, when brother brother McCrae here is about to become a good television critic here, so he's been getting

several shows that I must say are very good. So okay, um in church, my man, you're not in the woods, are you. No, I'm back in the d man, I'm back in the d all right. It's hot, it's hot outside. Logged a couple of miles on the bike this morning. But I'm good. I'm good. I'm ready to be back on the show. Man. Let's get a cracking Okay, if you've been watching anything on television, lady, that we need to be checking out. Man. So I did watch that

epstein Joy, which was crazy. Other than that, man, i've been I've been struggling to find something to watch. I've been watching a lot of old reruns of Rickett Morton if anybody ever watched that. But other than that, I've been struggling to find something to watch. All Right, I'll give you a podcast. It's really good, especially when you're out there on your bike called sixteen nineteen, it won

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podcast here, let's dive into some cowboy issues here. And you guys raised a really good question. I want to dive into that. Which side of the ball do you think we'll have a tougher time catching up? Because they're not gonna be OTAs or mini camp. Katy was probing go straight into training camp here, it's gonna be the offense or the defense? Church go ahead. For me, I think it's it's gonna have to be the defense that's

gonna have to play a lot of catching up. And I say that because on the offensive side of the ball, they didn't really lose a lot of their main tight talent. Yes, they lost Randall Cobb, but they were able to fill that with Cde Lamb and hopefully he's able to fill in those shoes greatly. But you know, they still have the same offensive coordinator and Kellen Moore. They still have the same pieces of dynamic pieces that can make them

a super offense out there. So I'd like the offense with a couple maybe terminology might be different a little bit, but I think they'll have an easier job transitioning with this new coaching staff. And then started the season being so the late as it is. And on the defensi side of all, I mean they lost Byron Jones. I mean they lost some guys on the key guys on the defensive line. You know, we've seen, you know, the linebackers took a step back as far as their players concerned.

So they got a step it up, and so I think they they'll have And they also have a whole new defensive playbook, so they'll have a lot to catching up to do. They weren't able to be around each other this spring and really get after kind of play off the strengths and weaknesses of other players. So I think we'll have a lot of catching up to do. The terminology will be different, but they do have those leaders leaders on the defence side of the ball to

get it done. I just think we'll have to do a lot of catching up to the officer side of the ball once the season begins. Yeah, for me, I go with both reasons that this would be unpopular amongst US three. But I think the offense will be okay because they have so many playmakers on that offense and I think that they can cater cater that offense to them with a less amount of time, right because you've got so many big, big time playmakers out there. And

on defense, I think it'll be the same. I think that we'll be able to get a real rush going and help out our secondary. So for me, it's gonna be special teams. I think we got a lot of guys that we saw last year the effect that special teams can have on the game when you don't have

that experience from players and coaches on there. And I think that you'll have a lot of new guys coming in playing positions that they hadn't played before on hunt and on kickoff and on punt return, and I think you'll see some some crucial mistakes if we aren't able to get out there and get that stuff taken care of before the season starts. So I think if you look at special teams, could it could be a problem for us if we don't if we don't have enough

time to get that stuff taught and corrected. Let me ask you a question, mcrag. Let me ask you real quick question. Do you feel like we the Cowboys have done enough addressing the special teams as far as bringing in players that are strictly special team pieces that can that can basically promote the special teams unit to being better than last year? Do you think we made enough moves in the off season for that, I mean, compared

to what we've done in the past. I do. I believe that we kind of focus a little bit more on bringing some guys the end that are just specifically special teams players, and that is more than we had done in the past. Most of the time it was our own undrafted free agents that we ended up keeping and turning into special teams guys. So I think that there's been more of a focus on the special teams and I think that that will show a little bit more.

My worry is just you know, when you got guys who don't know how to kick, step in and block for guys who are rushing on punt, those guys can those things can become big issues, all right. So mccraig, here's something that's very interesting, just based off what you said about special teams, is what is Mike McCarthy's philosophy on using starters on special teams? And I bring this up because when Bill Parcells was here, he had guys like like Brady James, who was a starting linebacker. Jason

went the tight start in Titan. He put these guys out there those special teams. And Lawrence Taylor played special teams for for Bill Parcels when he was up with the New York Giants, and and UH and Carl Bank. So what's what do you think Mike McCarthy's philosophy is going to be in terms of using guys who are startings. I think I think times have changed and I don't think uh, those starting guys are as open to being

on special teams as they used to be. So I think it'll be a lot more pushback and I don't think that he will will will push very hard to get some of those start plays out there. So I don't think we'll see very many starting guys on special teams this season besides being a punt returner. Okay, so that's crazy, ok go ahead. No no, no, no, no, no no, no, Church ahead, because I'll follow it up. I'll follow. So

go ahead, Erica. Oh no, I was just I was just pigging back and off of you, just saying that's a that's a great statement, because I mean, back in the day, you had if you think about like the Ravens of two thousand, you had Ed Reid and all those guys coming off the edges and blocking punts, and you had like guys like Dante Haul back in the

day returning kickoffs and starting receivers. So I just think it's tough that times have changed like that to where you know, starters are kind of like, I'm strictly at running back. I'm not messing with those special teams. But I remember back in the day that used to be a huge part of the game. But I think it's just kind of change a little bit, all right. So so my next question here, Danny going back into special teams. Goad thing. This is a really good critical question that

you've raised here. If you're John Fossil, the new special teams coach, how do you use training camp with your special teams guys not really truly knowing Okay, who's gonna

make the team? What guys do? I use me? How do you go about taking a roster of ninety that you're gonna cut down and deciding and who you spend your time and putting on special teams to see who can do the job, Because I mean, really, do you want to have guys out here running down here that you're gonna get cut that eventually it's gonna be wasting reps on, right? I mean, and I think that's what

a collective comes in with the coaching staff, right. So, knowing now that you don't have OTAs and many camp, when you get into training camp, you have to have some type of idea of who's going to be on the team, right, So you have to get together as those coaches and meet and say, hey, look, we know that this guy has a ninety percent chance of making a team, so make sure that you kind of cater to this guy, ain't hav him on the teams, and get them some reps because this is one of the

guys that you may have to depend on when you get into the season. Now, the other guys will get some reps, but since they're more of long shots, they will get probably less reps than than than those guys that were already eyed as people who would make the roster. So they just got to come together and and point out guys who they believe will be on the roster. Okay, got you. And for fans out there that are thinking, oh,

all right, they're tallas special teams, it's boring. No. Look, this is a very big part of why the Cowboys were not a team that made the playoffs last year. Their special teams was troacous. And the fact is, when you talk about all three phases offensivens too special teams and the Cowboys basically win in every game last year, losing that battle. So you're trying to try to find a way to win two two phases instead of trying to win three phases. That New England game, the special

teams lost the game. So we're talking about a topic and a subject that needs to be addressed. Barry, you made this team as a free agent rookie, and so did you, Danny. But Barry go back to how you made the team was through special teams. And I look at a kid like Darius Anderson running back out of TCU, free agent running back, he's got to make an impact on special teams if he's going to make this football team.

Because they've got Ezekiela, They've got twenty power. So for some guys, this truly is going to be the way they make the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty. It's gonna be the way I mean, if I take it back to when I was a rookie, um, I had, you know, Gerald Sinson balls in front of me, Alan Ball, Patrick Watkins. I had a lot of betterness that were proven up there. So I knew for me to get on this team, especially being undrafted, I had to had to bust my

butt on special teams. I had to become best friends with Joe Decommis on the special teams and basically saying I'll run through a wall for you if you just give me a chance. And I was able to do that. And then later on the defensive play came along and I was able to get reps on defense. But for those undrafted guys knowing that they got a steep climb ahead of him to even crack the lineup. I mean they got up become, you know, best friends with a special teams guy and just want to run through the

wall for him. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't sound popular, but that's the easiest way to get onto a team. All right. There's another topic we spoke about here, and this is gonna be very interesting because I love this um. Which starting defensive rookie? Do we think, as she said, which rookie will be a start? Which cat was defensive rookie? Do you think that end up being a starting football player. I'll start with you, Danny, Oh, easily, Diggs. He's coming in.

Byron Jones. Byron Jones is out of there. They need to fill that spot. And we talked previously about some guys that are already on the roster and will be up for some serious competition to keep their starting jobs. And I think dis being picked up in the second round as a clear indicator that's he's vying for that starting position. I think he'll be able to get it. Yeah, I'm gonna stick in the secondary on this one, but it's gonna be a tough one for me because you

know Barron Jones. He was a long rangy corner, very great physical when it came to pressing at the line of scrimmage, and he was a great man in man corner. And they see a lot of that in the Trayvon Digs guy or Yea Treylon's Digs who's out there at cornerback They got from Alabama, but they also had that, and I think I believe his name is Reggie Robinson if I'm not mistaken. At corners that they got in

the fourth round. He's a long ranging guy, can run with anybody, and he's great pressed the man press, the pressing man, and man cover. So I think it's gonna be a competition between those two to crack the lineup. I don't feel as though Cheetah going into the season and to be the starter. I think he'll start out of camp as it starter, just because he knows you know that they know him as a player. But I

think overall one of these rookies might supplant him. And I think I'm born with a surprise kid in the fourth round. I mean before we've seen fourth rounds before. They're scrappy, they kind of get the game and they're kind of hungry for us, So I'm gonna go with him over Treyvon Diggs. But it's gonna be a tough competition at corner, all right. I want to take you guys way back in the Cowboys, way back, but she

ll wave Phillips era. They used a first round pick on Mike Jenkins out of South Florida, in a fifth round pick out of Boise State, and you guys know very well Orlando Scandrid, and at first, you know, Jenkins was given the opportunities and he was the guy that got pushed and he was a starter. But over time we saw Skandro just took over and both guys ended up being, you know, productive players for the Cowboys, but

Scandrid kind of longer tenure with them. And when you bring up Reggie Robinson the way he did Church, that just made me think about that that, you know, those two quarters and the careers they had with the Cowboys. But I'll say I believe in what Danny is saying. Diggs is going to be the guy, because look, if Diggs is not a starter at some point in this year, either Cheeto's gonna be playing really, really well or Diggs

let us down. Because this is a guy we allays considered to be a first round to pick for the Cowboys at seventeen and he ends up getting to the Cowboys in the second round. So I'm expecting big things from from treyvon dis I really am. I think Trey Diggs has got to be an impact player and a guy who starts. And if Reggie Robinson can also, you know, come along the way and be a starter too, then

you're talking about one heck of a class. If you get two quarters that are starting out of a draft class in a second in fourth round, that means you

really does some bit work. Yeah, I mean that devil go hats off to Will McClay right there, And that was a great comparison you made with the Mike Jenkis and Orlando's Gander, both similar type guys, and Jenks got all the first early opportunities and he was able to He was able to capitalize a lot of those opportunities, but as we saw over time, Scandal was just able to take it and have a longer and more productive career.

And I see a lot of similarities between Digs and Robinson, So hopefully they'll have a great competition and We'll see you when the best player comes out. But I think I'm gonna slide towards Robinson on this one with that comparison, Who's who Which one of those guys fit better in the slot, because you know, Orlando's career was a little bit longer because he was almost able to master covering in the slot and playing that playing that nickel position.

So this is true. So would you say the fourth round guys gonna be the guy who's going to be in the slot because you know George Lewis is in there, he makes some plays. Yeah, I don't think any of them are gonna supplant George Lewis in there as a slot. I mean, he reminds me a lot of Orlando as far as just being feisty and just being that prototypical Nickel. So I see him staying in there for the long ride.

But on the outside, I mean, I can see both of them kind of supplanting Brown and the Lousian Nickel. But like I said, that that could be, that would be a heck of a draft players, and we I had to go with New York now and the hell of a draft class. But we'll see. So you said, that you send the two stars are supposed to teams. Okay, all right, and then they could be gunners you know, Handti Okay rivers. He got two two starters losing their jobs this season. I'm telling you go back and you

heard it here first. What we talked about with Jordan Lewis just right there. You know his ability to cover the slide and you must have you know, you must have a guy who can cover slot, which you really

need too when you start thinking about injuries. But how much do we think that Jordan Lewis can excel under Al Harris, the new Cowboys secondary coach, Because we all knew that Chris Richard, the previous secondary coach, really like bigger guys, and the thought process was that Jordan Lewis wasn't getting as much run because he didn't fit the prototypical height that Chris wanted. Maybe this is a better opportunity for George Lewis to excel with Al Harris. Here.

I can see that happening. I'm mean, especially at the slot corner. You know, I know they like their big corners, big physical corners out there on the outside because there's not really a lot of wiggle room that the receivers have out there, But on the slot, I mean, you got all those quick Beasley type receivers, you gotta have somebody that can match up with them. So I feel like George Lewis fits pots typically, you know perfectly. You

got the right size, he got great quicks. He's not the fastest in the world, but either are all the slot receivers, So I think he fits that perfectly. But you know, as far as the outside, I think you definitely have to have some size to you, and I don't think he fits that outside corner round, so that's where I put you know, Digs and Robinson in there. But overall, I think he fits perfectly in that slot. Yeah, yeah,

same here. I think the reason why those slot corners are are the way they are is because they're quick, they have a good field for the game, their instincts are above because some of the outside corners, and I think him being able to disguise and blitz and play those zones and then also make plays on the ball like we've seen him do when he got into the game, I think that will help him make sell at that

slot position. So I think we'll see big things from Jordan Lewis this season, all right, So we both feel that all three of us as they feel that the defense is going to have to catch up to where the offense is based on not having offseason workouts. Now, since we're going and saying the offense under Kellen Moore is going to have an edge because they aren't going to change too much of it here, how good of a play caller do we think Kellen Moore can develop

into in the National Football League? Start with you, Dan, I think it can be a good play caller. I think the biggest knock on him last season was those slow starts and him being able to get that offense going at the beginning of the game. We saw that he was able to draw some things coming out of halftime and later into the second quarter. But he has to be able to get those guys going out of the gate, that first fifteen play script that coaches usually

have to get their offense rolling. I think he needs to just work on that, and if he's able to get that done, I think he'll be excellent play caller. Same year. I think um as this. I think, as you know, he's getting into a second year as full time play caller and I think he'll he'll develop into a better play caller. Um. I just think, like you said, Danny and a spur fifteen, I think he has to

just develop a little bit more creativity. UM. I feel like, you know, during last season, there was a lot of let's run Zeke on first down. Let's run Zeke on first down. He's kind of like running into a brick wall. And the running plays, you know, it was kind of Runzick up the middle, all right, let's run Zick to the edge. There was no kind of counters or creativity to it. And so I just think if he can develop a little bit more creativity, especially with the wide

receivers he has. I mean, we've seen last time u Amari Cooper was getting locked up against you know, the Gilmore's of the world a better corner. So let's, you know, stack him up behind another rider Saiver, Let's put him in motion a little bit just to get their playmakers open and a better opportunity. So I think he couldn't be a better play caller this year. He just had to develop a little bit more creativity. But I think

he could be pretty good overall. Barry stay stay there on Cooper because I go back to that Rams playoff game and Cooper ended up catching once. He was a twenty three or thirty three yard touchdown pass and he caught it out of the slot, and he was just giving the Rams DBS issues out of the slot. And talking with the former NFL coach defends the coach he kept telling me. He says, why don't the Cowboys utilize

Cooper more out of the slot? Yeah, he's a guy who can play on the outside, he says, But on the inside, as big as strong as he is, he can give some of these smaller slot dvs some serious trouble here. So what are your thoughts about being able to use him differently under Mike McCarthy in a way that he wasn't really utilized under head coach Jason Garrett. I think it's gonna be great for a Marie Cooper, and I think it's gonna be great for Dak Press

about to have McCarthy's offense in here. If you look back and what he did with Jordy Nelson in his Green Bay days, Jordy would play on the outside, he would play on the inside. He was motioning left and right. There are finding ways to get him open. I think they'll do that same type of thing with Amari Cooper here. I mean, like you said, when you put him in the slot, he's a he's a lot more room to

and he's going against smaller corners. If you're on the outside, and you're usually you're bigger, physical, longer corners who can kind of shut you out if they get a hand on you, because there's not a lot of wiggle room. But in that slot, you have about ten yards it's just open space, and if that guy misses on you at the beginning, you have, you know, open field for days. So I think they'll get a little bit more creative

with that and getting him the ball. They might put him in some stacks, some type of option type routes where he can have an opportunity to basically get a free release off the ball so that it just happened to go against that corner one on one all day. So I think we'll see that a little bit more creativity from Kelly Moore. But putting him in the slot, I think it'd be a great idea because he has a speed to separate, he's big and physical against these

smaller corners and he can just outman them. So I think putting them in a slot would be a great opportunity for this Cowboys office. Yeah, and the piggyback of Church. It's usually a lot harder to double the slot receiver, especially on first and second down. It's easier when you know he's gonna be at the X or the Z because you got a corner in the safety that can

get over the top. When you have to. When you have guys on the inside planning to run, and then you also have to be able to play play action and play the pass, it's just a little bit harder to account for somebody in the slot, or even get two or three guys to get over there and try to play combo coverage on them. So I think he'll get more openings if they put him in the slot, and he have more opportunities to make those big plays

like he think against the rounds. All Right, this is where I want to rely on you guys as former NFL players here. So here comes a new head coach and Mike McCarthy, who's got an offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, who's going to call the plays Coordinay McCarthy. But they've never worked together. How much coaching does McCarthy have to do with Kellen Moore to get him where he wants him to be. What type of growing pains do you think we'll see from a head coach and the coordinator,

guys who've never worked together. I'll start with your church. I think you'll see a lot of growing pains. I mean usually that's when you have the spring for OTAs you have many camps just to get a feel for one another, especially as your first time working together. Yeah, Kellen Moore has worked with this offense before, so he has a better feel for the player and I think that's where McCarthy's gonna kind of lean on him. You know, how is this player react to this type of coaching

and that type of coaching. But as far as the play calling together, they've never worked together. They've never been able to put McCarthy's system to the field and see how the players react to it. So I think there'll be a lot of growing pains. Hopefully they'll be able to work through these quickly in training camp because we know the season will be right around the corner if it started on time, So hopefully they'll be able to

work through these things. But seeing as though hopefully the terminology will be pretty much the same with Kellen's offense. The players will be able to pretty much translate it quickly and get going. But I think there will be a little bit of growing pains going forward. Yeah, I'll

tell you this. I really, honestly just hope that they've been talking and meeting and doing FaceTime and zoom and they've been founding a way to simplify this offense, especially for training camp in the first few weeks of the season, because if you try to come in and input the entire offensive playbook, there are growing pains and the yelling and the cursing on the sideline will be very visible because it will happen when they first get out there,

like you can't do it. So hopefully they simplified it and they're both on the same page about what should be called, what players they want to try to get in, what positions, and they just start off the season running a few of those things in this grow to the playbook as they go throughout Week seventeen. All right, you check it out the players Lounge. I am KNWI Scruggs, a long time report of the Cowboys, joined by four by two former Dallas Cowboys defensive acts, Danny McCray and

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GWS one score. September twenty nineteen. Back to the Players loved Hey Friday. Friday Friday means the players last. Right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, I'm doing it Scarts, a long time Cowboys reporter, joined by former Cowboys defensive back at Danny mccrege and former Cowboys defensive back Barry Church. All Right, we've got breaking news just coming down from the National Football League. Juneteenth, June tenth. The NFL says they are going to close their offices and designate it

as a company holiday. Juneteenth is a celebration of the end of the Civil War. Now it's celebrated down here in Texas, and it has been for years. The Civil War ended in April, okay, first week in April, but a lot of the black slaves who lived in Texas didn't find out about it until until June, and so June nineteenth. Juneteenth is a day of celebration where people down here in Texas at barbecues and church. I know you're from the Pittsburgh area, Danny, you're from Texas. Som

day something you grew up thank a little show. Now we got we got your daddy, go ahead? Oh oh yeah, man? Uh so yeah. Down here and in the great state of Texas, in the great city of Houston, it's it's a big day, man. It's it's people all out at the car wash, all their favorite restaurants, barbequeing crawfish, doing all this stuff. It's it's a huge day out here. And I'm glad that the NFL is recognizing it as such. And I will be celebrating in my front yard this year.

All right. So, so for so for you church, was did you know about it growing up in the Pittsburgh area. Was it just something you heard of what you got down here to the cowboys from Texas? Yeah, I didn't really. I didn't really hear because there was nothing. There was no type, you know, big celebrations or anything like that

up north in Pittsburgh. For junt I didn't really hear about it until I got down here and I was playing with the Cowboys, and you know, a lot of people with the Cowboys while my teammates were from Texas, and they kind of looked at me, cranzy. He's like, you don't know nothing about this? And I was like, I just didn't know anything about it. So up north, it's night. You know. I guess it's not really a big holiday, but definitely learned about it when I got

down here. For sure. Search you came to a crowfits boil let the house for Juneteenth. Yeah, I'm gonna say, okay, okay, I like this. I like this, and it really is an opportunity. I'm glad the NFL is doing this because it gives an opportunity to let more people know outside of Texas, um, exactly what Juneteenth is and that um, you know people today. You got these cell phones here, man,

So yeah, we these cell phones. Bool. We just get stuff instantly, and we just think that, you know, we just had this assumption that everyone knew or that Okay, hey, the day that General Lee surrendered to Grant An Aplomatics courthouse, Bool, everything was good. Everybody drop your weapons. No, it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that at all. So I love the fact that what the NFL is doing is bringing awareness to this holiday and that they're going to

close their offices and educate more people about it. And I think it's something that when they have the rookie seminars and the the ability to let other folks know, Okay, hey, look, this is what's going on now. At the same time, and you guys know this very much. Um, June nineteenth is not a time where people are really working anyway. This is when most teams, players and coaches are away on vacation as they get ready to go to training camps. Would I would go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead, yeah,

I will tell you this. Um being playing in Chicago and then playing in Dallas and seeing how much more on the business side things that Dallas has gone on. The office in Dallas is often, uh, pretty busy compared to other teams in the league. So I think it's bigger for some teams and more it's more important that for some teams that this day is being considered a

holiday than others. So the Cowboys usually office will be booming and stuff with a lot of stuff to be going on on June nineteenth, and this year, it'll be closed. I mean, this corona gone on, but in the future it'll be close. I think it's big for the Cowboys at least. So what are your thoughts? This week? Is what we've seen because from the last time we did

our show, um, we saw the we it was. It was earlier that morning, the players had come out and you know, Zekiel Elliott was one of nineteen guys who came out and basically called out the NFL. That later on that day, Roger Goodell came out and said we were wrong and we should have listened to the players. And so now they're also contributing two hundred and fifty million dollars to um TO Social to social justice and

and and looking at policing. So for me, I'm shocked that in what Colin Kaepernick started in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen has now ended ended, but had now gotten to the point where the NFL is giving money, admitting that they were wrong, and now that they're gonna say we're gonna recognize June team, I mean they're starting to actually do what Roger Goodell says, listen to their players. Church. Yeah,

I mean that's that's like you said, that's huge. I mean, celebrating Juneteenth and then you know them come out of their pockets about what twenty five million dollars a year, so it comes up to two hundred and fifty million. I think that's huge and it and it's a shame that, you know, it had to it had to take the life of you know, George Floyd to to get this

ball rolling. Um. You know, like you said, Kaepernick had had mentioned this and was just making a stand on it, you know, three years ago, and it just took the life from George Floyd for this ball to get rolling. Are we still a far away away from where we want to be? Of course we are, but at least the balls getting rolled in the right directions. When you have guys like Lebron James, you've got other guys standing up, and then you got you know, NASCAR making a stand

taking away the Confederate flags. I mean we know that the you know, the main fan base of NASCAR, we all know, or if it is it down south, you know, white community, and for them to take down that Confederate flag, I mean that was huge. So I mean, the ball is definitely rolling in the right direction. Like I said, We're a long way away, but at least it's going in the right direction. Yeah, definitely. Um, I'm glad that they're that recognizing this and Goodell came out and recognized

that he was wrong and admitted it. And the only recognition that I'm waiting on is this Kylin Kaepernick thing. I mean that they had Pete Carroll on this morning saying that a team called him expressing interest in Kaepernick. I'm wondering who that team was, and I'm wondering if there will be more teams to follow to see if if this uh wrong will be made right this season

of NFL. I want to see Kylin Kaepernick get a job and I would love to see him mention by name to say, hey man, we appreciate you for actually starting this, but I mean, we'll see how that goes. Do you think it has something to do with the legal settlement they had that they can't mention his name or do you just think they're doing that just out of spot. I think they can mention his name. They don't have to say they colluded. They could They can say,

hey man, we were around Kylin Kaepernick. You were right when you when you first took a bee. That's not them at manting collusion. But you know, we'll see I think the ball is rolling. I think I think it to touch somebody in the right way, and then they'll come on out and say it, and then there'll be other people to come to follow. I was asked on I was asked on one to five through the Fan this week, you know, did I think Colin Kaepernick was

gonna get a job? And I said no, I don't. Um, Look, we know there's there, there are There are several coaches, never forget the owners. There are several coaches who wanted nothing to do with Colin Kaepernick. Okay, they were very upset by what he did and what and what other players had done. So I just don't know. And this is a league that said, well, we'll let the Nate Petermans and Mike Glennen's make money here, but we're not

going to let Colin Kaepernick. And then also I was asked by r J. Choppion want to five through the Fan. He says, well, do you think Colin Kaepernick will actually come in and take a job as a backup? And I said the chopping, I was like chop, I said that should not even be a question. So Colin Kaeperick knows if he comes in the league, he's gonna have to come in as a backup player. I said, that's the same thing that people want to use against Cam Newton right now. Well, you know, I mean, can Cam

come in as a backup? People have their starters at this point in time. Okay, they've got their starters, and so if you come into it, if you come and take a job, you pretty much know what's going to be as a backup. But to say that's the reason to not sign the guy like Cam Newton or not signed to Colin Kaepernick, I think it's crazy because I was here where Randall cutting Him came to the Cowboys

as a backup quarterback to Troyman. I mean, these are two guys who competed against each other at a high level for years, and he'd face each other in the playoffs. But Randall cutting Him ended up coming here. Rodney Pete came here. I mean, Rodney Pete was a starter in Detroit, he ended up coming to Dallas. That was a backup to Troy Agman. So I just feel at times I was hearing excuses as to why, Well, maybe we shouldn't sign this person. But I just don't believe that Colin

Kaepernick is gonna get a job. I have to see it. I can hear all this talk, but until I see Colin Kaepernick not just signed to a team, but on a roster on game day, I'm gonna have a hard time believe him. Yep. Yeah, I think it's the wave right now, and I think that it'll be the cool thing to do. So I think somebody's going to do it for that reason and because they know that they were wrong. So I once again me and New Year at odds with this one. I believe Kaepernick will will,

We'll get a job. He will get a chance to do an actual real workout that is by a team and not force for stone by the NFL. Okay, at this point, go ahead, but okay, you can have a workout. Okay, you can even sign a guy. Go back to Michael sam all Right, drafted by the Rams, cut by the Rams, picked up by the Cowboys, never played a game for the Cowboys. He was a e r W. He was a sidelines shorts you eat riding warm up for games and that was all he did. So for me, would

you say signed forget signed? Are you going to put Colin Kaepernick on a team and this guy's activated in any uniform on a game day. I just don't see that happen. I just don't write that. What my whole thing is now, if you get a real workout with a team, I'm assuming that it'll be other guys there that they're having to work out, so you actually see who's better and who's not and have a real real eye test for why this guy didn't get get put on the team. Was he better than the guys that

he was out there working out against? It they pick up a guy off the street from from that we know isn't better than Kylie Kaepernick after this workout, So I think they'll be under more scrutiny if they actually bring him in for a workout, And I think that'll be a reason for him to be on the team, if his talent showed that he still has enough to be a backup on the roster. And see, to me, the whole doesn't have enough talent. We know he does. They we know this man can play the game of football.

And you start looking at the roster of some of these other quarterbacks and you just simply say, hey, does your backup quarterback have experienced starting any Super Bowl? Most of them, don't. You know? Cooper Rush was here for Dak Prescott for two years. The backup is now up in New York. You know you think that they couldn't have him in New York backing up Daniel Jones. You think they'd rather have college happening or Cooper Rush take

snaps and Daniel Jones ends up getting hurt. And last year Daniel Jones didn't get hurt, which allowed Eli Manners stepped back on the field. So we know he's better than a whole lot of dudes on rosters. Okay, we know this, but the NFL and it's coaches, managers and owners have decided they don't want any part in it.

And what do we know about Colin happening? While it could be popular to maybe sign him and for certain teams, it may not be popular if he goes to other teams, and every all these owners were guarded against their pocketbook. It was made to be seen that Colin was bad for business. So we now saying Colin's gonna be good for business. And just because a guy's good for business, does that mean the team is actually going to go out there and do it. That portion of it, to me,

I'm skeptical about it. I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical, but I think it's the probability of it now. It's so much higher than it was before. Because it is. I think it is good for the pocketbook and it is good for the optics in public relationship. I think that this is the perfect time if one of these guys want to take a chance. Anybody who was on the fence back then and didn't want to be the first person to step out, I think they have that opportunity to

do that now. And even if it is just a graph for money or pr stunt, I would still love to see the man get the opportunity. We shall see, we shall see. He is Danny mccraigs, Barry Church, fellas. Tell everybody where they can find you on social media. You start Danny. You can catch me on Twitter at Danny at Danny dmc forty four and on Instagram at Danny Underscore mccraig forty You catch me at Darry Church

forty two. That's both Twitter and Instagram, all right. You catch me on Twitter at New restruct it's n E w Y Scruggs. Now, since we talked about Colin Kaepernick here, let's just break it down for the Cowboys. Any room for him on this team? Nah, I'm gonna have to shoot that down immediately. I just don't see one. I mean, we got Andy, don't get a solidified backup quarterback there. Do I think Klin Kaepernick is better than Andy Dalton now three years from playing the game though, I don't

think he's better than Andy Dalton. So I'm just have to stick with Andy Dalton as our backup. And two, I mean we're already you know, you know, quote unquote America's team, and there some media firestorm that would happen with Colin Kaepernick here. I just I just don't see it happening. So I gotta give it a definite know on that one that he'll be he'll be wearing to start anytime in the future. Yeah, I'm an absolutely, positively no way not happening. For the same reasons that Church said.

I think Andy Dalton is better than Klin Kaepernick is now. I mean the guy was up in Cincinnati. I mean, so we knew it wasn't much there. He's been to the playoffs. He's still proving and I think with the weapons that we have here in Dallas, he would still be able to be productive too. I just remember the issue that the Cowboys had with the NIEL and the flag, and I don't think they're open they're bringing in Kaepernick with those with those beliefs. So it won't happen. I can.

I will stand on that one hundred percent will not see Kylin Kaepernick play for the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, now, I'll say say this, when you said the Cowboys stands and Jerry Jones stands about the flag, we live in a drastically different world since the Dallas Cowboys last played football between COVID nineteen and what has happened here with George Floyd and the NFL's stands against the players and saying that they were wrong and not listening to the players.

We haven't heard from Jerry Jones yet. But do you think Jerry Jones may change his mind, that Jerry Jones may say my players are free to do whatever they feel they want to do. I think that Jerry Jerry is his own man and always will be, and however he feels, no matter if it's popular or unpopular, He's going to state that and continue to work that way. So if he still feels the same about the flag, I believe that he will still say the same stuff that he said in the past. And yeah, I don't

think he hears what people think about it. So at this point, I believe that he still feels the same. Yeah, I gotta agree with you one hundred percent on that one. I feel like I feel like J. J probably feels the same way he felt about the flag in the beginning. And he's, like he said, he's the ultimate businessman, So I don't think he'll go out there and say anything to mess up his bottom line. So at the end of the day, I think, you know, he probably still

feels the same way he felt about the flag. And like I said, I don't see, you know, any room for calling to be here or anything like that. So I'm gonna go with that one. But I'm you know, I want to see what you think about that movie. All right, I'll push back on something you just sat there, Barry when you said that m bottom line. Nike blew that.

Nike blew that all the way when they signed Colin Kaepernick and had the ass deal, and you had a whole bunch of people now who were like, I can't stand Nike and burn the Nike's and not go wearing Nike's. I'm gonna go where where under armor? Nike stopped, went up Nike stocking. Dude, They're just doing just fine. So I think this whole premise that if you bring in Colin happering, you're going to turn off and kill your bottom line. I don't think that's the case. They think

about it this way, Barry. You just said the NFL should be worried about their bottom line. What did NASCAR just do with a Confederate flag? NASCAR just sit nah, get it out of here, turning it against their very own base and something that a lot of their fans held on too. And they said no. So if NASCAR can do that with the flag, surely they can allow that to happen in the National Football League and let's players do whatever they want to do. You've already got

certain teams that are saying that. You've got Adrian Peterson coming out this week saying, Hey, I'm going to kneel. I mean, I hear a lot of talking. You know, I hate pet but I'm yeeling I'm doing this. I'm hearing a lot of talking. I just you know, I gotta see the actions first. I gotta see these these players that are saying, no, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. I gotta see them do it first.

And I understand what you mean by taking the Confederate flag away, but NASCAR and NFL, I mean, there's two different beasts right there. So I'm just interested to see once once we start playing again, if all these players and everybody's saying what they were gonna do in the summertime, we're gonna do during the during the season. I just want to wait and see that. But if they do more,

half to them, and you'd be right on that. Neuis. Yeah, I think that bottom line the bottom line thing is a little different, especially for a team like the Cowboys, who has way more sponsorship dollars out there than I think any other team in the National Football League and Nike, you know, for everything that they did, which was great, I think they are bigger than some of these other sponsors they are out there, and they could have took that loss if it went the opposite way and they

still were a sponsor of the NFL. So, I mean, I think it's a little different for as far as the Cowboys bottom line versus the NFL's bottom line. And at the end of the day, or ain't nobody wearing the under armor shoes? Man Miles Miles, Austin Miles, that's about it. Yea, out there the rocks, the rocks under armour shoe is selling very very well. I just want to make shoes. Oh, it's probably like fifty year old ladies out there buying the rock under all the shoes. Yea,

did y'all see those shoes? I mean those are taboo. Remember when Cam, when Cam new boots first came out, when everybody was like, man, what is this? The boy had the boxing shoes out there? All right, we gotta take another break. We revisit the bet that Danny McCray and I have about Dak Prescott in his contract situation, and also which position has the biggest need for a long term solution with the Cowboys. We do that next with Dany McCrae. Very Church new re struts right here

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visiting SLOR USA dot com. See more, Do more to the players Loud Friday plays loads right here on Dallas how Boys. Kind of New Respects a long time Cowboy reporter joined by former Cowboy players Danny mcraig and Barry Church. A gentleman, you guys were killing that Cam Newton under armis Is this is this? This? You guys don't like the cam. I got a pair of the cam. Yeah, you're wrong, you're wrong. For now. I'll tell you right now.

You don't like that, You're wrong for now my cams man. Listen, listen, listen, listen. No, don't do don't do it. I'm not doing that. I got the black pair of rock shoes. Man, you're like, oh you not not not listen now? Are you about to be doing the people's elbow and the rock bottom and all that stuff? It's not. I got the white pear too. I got the white pears. There we go, Here we go. You're gonna you're gonna start raising his eyebrows and stuff on the bat man start talking. Come on, man,

come on now. But I will say this that that my favorite of course, you know it's it's the Air Jordan's so you know, I am a guy's the Air Jordan guy. You know, Mega sci Fires Jordan was we do support Jordan Jordan, Big Jordan ran, Which was what's your favorite pair Jordan's? Um? You know what it's really about.

I like the Trunners. I like the Trunners because of the heels, So I like the UM So I'm a big fan of that, but if you're just talking about just a basketball one in general, UM, I don't know the exact name of it. I got it in there. Actually I got it at the Nike store in twenty eleven. I spent seven hundred dollars at the Nike Store twenty Level because the map the Mavericks. The MAVs were playing

Portland during the NBA playoffs. The Mays ended up going in that June and winning the finals, and so we got that fifty percent off discount. So I ran in there. I spent seven hundred bucks. I had to um buy us by suitcase to put all these shoes in there, and and I still I believe it. I still am able to wear um about three of them that I bought from that trip. I bought so many of those Jordans up there that that I had that Nike store

so um. But but I'm a big Jordan guy. Whenever we got to camp, and you guys know that uh that little shopping that little outdoor mall that you pad the outlet ball you pass on the one on one and going up to camp, so I always stop over there, and so I got a pair of Uh, I got a pair of these. I got these Jordan's last time last summer. I got these for about eighty bucks. Real nice, so I got got got those. But when I have an opportunity to get a pair of Jordan's, I usually

uh will snack a pair so they're comfortable. But it's the hell now, I you know, during a break, I went in there in a break, I didn't got him out of the closets since you guys were you know, I'm playing on poor can't can't rock man. It's like if somebody gotta gotta gotta you know, I did support I did support them and their adventures as they had their their footwear out there. But but ultimately, I mean, if I'm gonna choose just a brand to wear, I'm

I'm a I'm a brand Jordan guy. So they know it would jobbing shoes when you take me out to eat. They're not what those rock shoes? All right? Don't do those shoes? All right? What's a loaf or something like that? Keep them at the ops. You don't smell it now,

I don't spell with the rockets cooking. I never bought the Jordan ones, and I remember because I'm older than you guys, I remember when those shoes came out because I was living in North Carolina when Michael played for the Tar Heels, and so I was a big, big,

big Jordan guy. And when they first came out with the shoes, I thought they were I was like, man, these shoes done because it was black and red and it didn't look and then it ended up yeah, and then they put some of the white in because the NBA said you can't wear that shoe because it's got to have white in the shoe. And anyway, over time, man, they really developed it. But the early Jordan early year in Jordans, I was not a big fan of MP's still not now so, but now obviously you got ten

million choices. I was watching the Colonial golf tournament and Harold Varner, the third who ended up time for the lead out in the first round, he is a Jordan guy and you could see those sweet Jordan golf shoes

he has. So it has been amazing to see how Michael Jordan and a shoe have changed culturally, not just you know, the fashion of people, but to enter a sport like golf the way it has, and then so many people are wearing air Jordan golf shoes and then get for you and you guys in football in the NFL. To see air Jordan police on football players, it's pretty amazing. It's no revolution as the shoe game. I mean, like

you said, he's taking over golf. I got a pair of Jordan golf shoes now, and it's just amazing how how much he's revolution as the game when it comes to the shoe a pair of I mean, he went from basketball to golf and now you see, like you said, you see football players wearing Jordan please, So I mean he revolutionized the game. I don't think we'll ever see any type of businessman like that as far as sports, and Lebron's trying to get there, but I mean his

shoe game is ridiculous. Yeah, man, Jordan had boots. I see people with tuxedos and Jordan's own Jordan one's black and white. The culture of the Jordan's shoe is just huge, and I don't think it's going any place and nobody will ever be able to replicate it. It has definitely become a part of American culture and worldwide culture. Really you start to think about it, you go over there and she Luka donte to the Dallas marriage. I mean, here's a kid from Slovenia who was signed by the

Jordan brand, so it's it's pretty pretty cool there. Let me go shut this dog up here, man Michael Danny Danny recap our bet here while I go get my dog to be quiet. All right, listen, listen, what since he's gone? I first bet he lost because he said Joe Burrow wouldn't win the hisman and he ended up winning. So he had to take me to Papa Those, which is one of my favorite restaurants. And this time he believes that Dak Prescott will sign a long term four

year deal before the franchise tag deadline. And I think he'll be playing on the franchise tag this year, so when he loses again, he will be taking me out to eat for a second time without his Dwayne the Rock Johnson shoes on and is the deadline in like a month, right the deadline, and and he thinks that Das's going to sign a long term deal before that. Yes, a four year deal at that a four year deal

at that four year just signed the four year deal? Yes, oh yeah, none, I believe, yes, I love you knew about it. I just can't see it. Man, you're about to go going too. This is crazy. Tell me why you are so much more optimistic this week than last week, because at the beginning of the show you said you

feel better about it than you have a no hass um. Yes, because I can see Gerald Wayne Jones slide down there with Dak Prescott, and maybe this could be the first time we've seen Jerry Jones make a statement and talk to the media. And here he is paying Dak Prescott doing the Jerry McGuire. I love a black man, I love black people. He didn't go Dak Prescott the highest contract in the NFL. Um Look, I said it before and I'll say it again. Tell me the player he

did not want that he didn't get. This man's been owning the football team since nineteen eighty nine. He's always got his guy. He's not losing him. He's not losing him. He's but he's gonna take care of He's gonna take care of him as I let this dog in and UH take care of him and it's gonna be all good. Yeah, he gonna give him seventy million dollars over the next two years and then pay him, So I mean, yeah,

he gonna get taken care of anyways. But I still think he's gonna be in that franchise that comes to last sixteen, that they would be walking in that building on the tag, I mean tag hanging about the shoes.

Y'all think y'all think this is going towards a kirk Cousins type situation or we're completely away from the kirk Cousins, either a one year franchise and nothing, or they just gonna keep franchise in what you say, Well, Barry, if you go back and you think about the issues with what was going on in Washington, was Bruce Allen wasn't sold on Kirk Cousins, and the folks who were the biggest Kirk Cousins fans they fired That was a Shanahans.

He was their guy. So so right out of the game, you gotta kind of put in in terms of dude, you like the player or you sold on the player. The Joneses that told you they're sold on Dak Prescott, they wanted Mike McCarthy Scott before I'm just look, okay, I don't know what we'll have our next show, but I'm imagining Danny. When we have our next podcast, school can take a little hiatus here. Then when we get back together, that's when you can come on and apologize

to man. You just say, new were you? Oh? Let me tell you this I had. I had a high school coach. His name was Corby Meekins, and he used to tell us this as we had a team, that we had some troublemakers on there, but we were great football players and as long as we were disciplined enough and stay stayed with our eyes on the game, we could make it to stay to win. He would say, what you are doing speak so loud that I cannot hear what you are saying. And that is exactly what's

going on with Jerry now. He has not been paid. We have been talking about this for a year and we are one month away from him being franchise tag. What you are doing to speaking so loud, I cannot hear what you're saying, which is we trust them, but do we really believe in them that much? So pay them and then I believe it. Todd France is the agent working this deal here, and Todd Franz hadn't spoke to him in a minute and when is Tyd gonna

talk to him? Toy, don't talk to him. In July when the deal as they get closer and the deal gets done, and he'll get everything he wants, which is to make Dak Prescott the highest paid quarterback in the NFL as of right now. Because I believe that we'll see Deshaan Watson pass it and then Patrick Mahomes. So Dak Prescott is gonna get his money. It'll get done in July. When it does. His deal get done in July, when did the Mark Coopers get deal done? His deal

got done as free agency went on. This clearly we're seeing the Cowboys. They do these deals. At the end, it will get done. And I'll go back to something Bill Parcels you said. All I can go by is what I see and what I've seen the first of us, the Cowboys have got it done. Mark Cooper does not count because the rules changed right before he had a chance to get transition tag and then Dak had a little tag and all that, and then that fell through so they only could use one. So Coop had to

be paid at a certain time. So I think that's a little different. I know you'd be taking me out to eat. Thank you what decide where later? Say? She said. The next time we reconvening, I'll be apologizing. I'll be apologizing to you for order too many drinks on your tab. I feel real confident it's real. Before we go from get you an alligators? Man, No, no, I didn't make alligator in New Orleans. I did. I did make alligator in New Orleans at the New Orleans School of Cookie.

So I did make gator before. What position you guys think needs to be the law of a position group thing you need to look at in terms of a long term solution. I think it got to me it's gotta be the cornerback position. I mean, they drafted one corner high, they drafted another corner um in late ground. So and they brought I think the other guy from Oakland, I believe his name is. I can't find his name

right now, but they brought another guy in. So I think they just invested a lot in the cornerback position. So if one of their investments can pay off as a long term, long term solution, I think that'll work. And hopefully it does. Man, I'm going with linebackers just because we don't know about vs. Nick can y'all hear me, not here, not here, McRae. But but I'll go into

tight end. I really look at the fact that tight end is going to be a position that they're gonna have to address here because if Blake Jarwin does not become the player we think, then they're gonna have to go out and start to look at at finding that guy. You start to look at the Super Bowl the past couple of years, and you see what a George Kittle has done in San Francisco, You see what Travis Kelsey has done in Kansas City. Those two teams played in

Super Bowl. You saw what the Eagles guy out of Zach Ertz and they want a Super Bowl. We saw what Rob Gronkowski in the difference he was able to make for the Patriots and winning Super Bowl. So you know, if you really want to get to that next level here, having a difference making tight end who creates matchup problems makes a difference and will help you win some games here. So I think Blake Jarwin has an opportunity to show

us he could be a difference maker. Clearly, he was held back last year by Jason Garrett and staff because they wanted to make sure Jason wit was in his run. But to me, that's the one position group that I look at long term where they really need to make

sure they find a solution. They gave Blake a significant contract this offseason, but if he's not that guy, they've got to go make the Uh, They've got to make the efforts to try and solidify that spot because I just think tight end and what they want to do in this offense, you've got to have somebody who can make some plays down the field. And if if Blake is not that guy, that gotta get fixed. You know

you can't, y'all hear me? Yeah, Oh my bad. So no, I went I went with a linebacker because we don't know what's going on with Elvi's neck and Sean Lee we know he's kind of at the end of at the end of the career, so he may have one or two years left. So you're looking at two linebacker positions that could be up in the air in the coming future. So I think that's one of the positions that we need to be focusing on. Yeah, and how do they use how do they use Jalen Smith in

this system? So yeah, that's uh that it's a good point that you made the Barry out here about about the linebacker spot. Yeah, there's they're definitely question marks there. So and that's the beauty of the National Football League. And why would we look forward to the twenty twenty season because there's a lot of questions here um Vegas and people saying the Cowboys were ten and a half in Vegas, enjored in the games they think they'll win this year. But we know you got to go out

there and get it done. There's talent on the rosters. Let's see how they positioned it together. And we're gonna take a break on our end here for the players Lounge. We will take a couple of weeks off and when we get back, the season will get going. We'll have a lot more news and a lot more things to talk about, and we will celebrate the four year contract. Dak Prescott get next, and Danny mccraig, I'll let you lead off the show, and I want you to say,

dear knew, I was wrong. That's how it needs are starting. I was wrong. Okay, here we go. I didn't hear you say that about Joe Burr. I wasn't in a bit. But we'll see, I actually might be feeling I might be feeling generous that day. I came up and admit, but I admitted my wrongs though I admitted that, Yeah, that's not how you said That's not how you said it. Joseph bad, Joe's a bad boy. Okay, I was wrong. Joe's a bad boy. I thought that they were gonna try and figure out a way to get it to

tour or Trevor Lawrence. But Joe went the next level with atoric performance and they all had to him. Man. I didn't mind paying that one because the guy that guy was, that was a trooper. You know. That kid was the truth and mine was was jaded Moore into my I know how the media seems to work these things the guys they want. But Joe, despite what people were thinking was these other guys, he outperformed it. Man. He left no doubt sensational season, man, and now the

number one pick of the draft. I hope he has a long career. Man, I just hate that every time he does well, I gotta hear your mouth and David, that's the portion of it that I can't stand. But but the kid is somebody to root for Um. He's he's the right kind of guy, you know, as he left LSU on his final game and put the borough in there with the U Eux on there and what

he's done since UH being drafted in the NFL. The position he took the back to players UM during Black Lives, the first the first, the first Louisiana and the quarterback to speak out in the correct way. Yeah, so Jones, Joe Borrow Man, I got no, no but respect for him. But like I said, the problem is that when I praised him, I got to hear from you. That's the part that I don't always like doing here, but loved the kid man. Like hope, I hope he has a long career and you know what, I hope we get

to go actually see him play this year. That would be because I don't know what the travel schedule is going to be in terms of what they canna allow media to go. That's gonna be the next thing that we're starting to figure out with with this whole COVID nineteen. But you know, I hope we get to go see Joe Borrow play and UH and see what he can do with their Cincinnati. So so there there. Yeah, you're happy,

You're happy. Thanks show. Yeah. I want you to bring that same intensity with Dak Prescott, get that money and the Jones family. And you just say I did not listen to the education. Knew we try to provide me. But that's okay. That's why we do to show you. I'm I'm I made that I'm wrong. Five months later, you right, that's what That's what I'm gonna do, both of you. Man, Let's stay in touch during this time off. To everyone who listens and checks out the podcast, we

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