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at Church. Apparently he's feeling real good to day, McCray, So I guess we gotta get on that that feel good. He's all right now. I'm thinking he gonna come out here with some sad news, but he come up his singing all during the break. He's ready to go. Mister must fun times up in here. He listen. He's he's carefree because he's accepted you know where we're at right now.

So he's fine with it. You know, whatever happens happened, that's what he's He just rolled just rolling on through, okay, man, Like I said, like I said earlier in the week, man, I'm very optimistic of what we got going on today. And you know, my babes, my music was just just showing how optimistic I am about this game. That's all that was happening. Who are you listening to? Um? You know I was corrected, you know. For the longest I thought it was with Oates and Hall. But it's Hall

and Oates. And my boy knew you every day. I made his day, you know, I made his day. Thought that was the funniest thing on earth. As well as our producer Chris Bean, they thought that was hilarious. But hey, I'm just trying to listen to good music. That's all I'm trying to do. Man, so so literally, because I'm older than you got, I grew up on Hall and Oates, all right, the two gentlemen Philadelphia. It's Darryl Hall and John Oates. I have never heard it referred to as

Oates at Hall. Okay never but but but but but okay, okay? Which? So? Which which song were you vibing to of of Hall and Oates? So I was jamming to a little bit of Sarah Smile earlier and had a little Private Eyes as well. Private Eyes was jamming that a little bit as well. And for for the for the longest. Man, I just found out they were they were two white guys. Man, I thought for the longest they were two brothers, you know, Oates and Hall as I call them, you know, say,

I thought they were brothers out there. But I mean to two white dudes who had the soul with them, man, it was it was awesome. It was awesome. So I mean they were influenced by They talked about how you know, they were influenced by soul music and the Motown records that got them going. That's how they how they got themselves going. I'll tell you what. Since you're on that Hall of Notes kick, I want you to go to

YouTube and look up Darryl's House and Daryl Hall's house. Yeah, so a bunch of a bunch of artists that you like, um go in and they sing old school Hall of Notes songs and then they sing some of their own stuff. So it's just a big jam session at Daryl Hall's house out in uh in the in Kinnectic, no New York, out of New York. So like Celo Green, CeeLo Green goes in there and he plays I can't go for that with with Daryl Hall in the band, and then they play, then they go play some of Seelows music.

So it's really cool to see them just five and like that. But yeah, it's it is Hall of Notes, my man, Hall of Notes. I'm glad you directed me because I would have I would have been saying that too. I would have been going out about Oates and Hall. Yeah it's not it's it's not the Five Jacksons. It's the Jackson five. These groups are older than you. These before you came out something, you know, it's it's the Jackson five, not the Five Jacksons. The case you I

deserve listening to that up, man, But it's good. I like the fact that you like good music. So I mean, for a while, man, whenever the dudes was putting out of music, it was a straight up hit. So they were. They were dog and good in the eight Now, if you want to see so you thought the Hall of Notes were black, if you want to see how all I'm telling you, man, all of us were fooled. It's when we looked up and saw Bobby Calledwell. Bobby called Well sings the song He's sings the song what You

Won't Do for Love? And Tupac used it a couple of years ago about like he sampled it. Yeah, he sampled it. So what I want you, what I want you to to do when we take our break here is just check your phone Google Bobby Caldwell or fact. Just look it up. Man, it's gonna shock you. It's gonna shock you. Bobby Carwell, Bobby Carwell. So I was gonna say, just we're talking about dude, that's talking about what you wanta do. Doom doom do for love? Were

talking about that guy. Oh god, man, that's a shocker. That's the ultimate sid Well. We'll wait till you see him. Look at the video when you see that's funny going. Well, so it'll it'll, it'll trip you out here. But uh, the players lounged by to you by hotels dot com is a football so we concentrate on the Cowboys. And it was a bad news that came out here today. That's what we talked about music, trying to make ourselves feel a little bit good. Uh, Tyer Smith is out

for the year. The left tackle Tyers Smith is out for the year. On top of the news we got last week that right tackle Lell Collins is done for the year. So the book ends guys, one a all decade performer in Smith and the other in college who I thought had a Pro Bowl season last year, they're gone. Adding the fact that last year's starting center perennial Pro Bowl or Travis Frederick retired, this is uh. This is a whole different offensive line that'll be rolling out here

against the New York Football Giants. The Giants are over a fourth, the Cowboys are are one in three, and fellas out I'm sweating right now, I'm bating. I'm sweating thinking about this is the combination that Dak Prescott has to deal with the rest of the way. Because we've seen three guys who could rush the pastor this year, Tack McKinley in that Atlanta game, and Tack McKinley was given the Cowboys the business before he heard his going and left the game. Then you know, then you go ahead.

You saw what Miles Garrett did to him. We saw what Aaron Donald did in Week one. You know, as they get ready to face the Steelers and Philadelphia and Baltimore, I'm afraid for Dak Prescott with this this unit out here. So fellas, you gotta start giving your impressions and just reaction to Tyran Smith being gone for the rest of the season. Mccraig. Listen, from what we talked about yesterday,

is really not surprising. He's been dealing with with a few injuries and then so the back is always a really really serious thing and it's hard to come back from,

especially for the entire season. And then you you have his neck injury, and you know, football, like I said, as a contact sport, and the nick is a big part of the game, and you know, when you risk putting that your career on the line just so you can come back, you know, early and throughout this season, just so you can try, especially when you're running three right, you see what's going on. But you see that and you don't want to you don't want to risk your

entire career just trying to come back to early. And I think he actually did that last week. So, like I said yesterday, I'm glad that he, you know, made that decision today. So now the Cowboys know they need to move forward with another option, and they're not you know, waiting on him to come back and hoping they didn't come back for the rest of the season. They know now that who they don't have They don't have the

left tackle or the right tackle. So now you have a chance to adapt and make a plan for who you're going to have out there for the remainder of the season. Yeah, for me, I think it was an extremely smart move for Tyron Smith to go ahead and get that second opinion and go ahead and get the surgery and shut it down because you know, like we said, man, the neck, the neck is nothing to ever play around with,

and there's life after football. So I think that was an extreme the smart move for him to do that. But to these injuries, I mean, this is where I think, you know, Kelly Moore and McCarthy and Phil Bin in that whole brain trust, they're gonna have to come up

with something. We know. We had Will on the show a couple of weeks ago, and you know he told us, you know, they like to promote from within, and they don't like to do this whole fantasy football mismatching and putting people here and there that they weren't doing that in camp. We we know they don't like to do that. But this is it, This is this panic mode right now. I mean, we're one in the three. We still have

a shot. I mean, if if we could play a little bit better, we still have a shot at this division. So for me, this is the time where they got to mix and match, put your best players and your best unit on the field. If that means moving Zach Martin to right tackle or left tackle or moving whoever they got to put out there. But they have to put their best unit on the field in order to protect Dak Prescott won and to get the most out of this offense. I mean it's a patchwork right now.

They're struggling. Like you said earlier, KNEWI those edges were getting destroyed by tack m Kennedy, they were getting destroyed by Miles Garrett, and in the interior, you know, Aaron Donald was retroying it. So for us, we're not gonna get a lack of pass rushers because Pitt Pittsburgh. They can still come after the quarterback. Baltimore, those boys can still come after the quarterback. And don't sleep on Washington. I mean they got chase you and they got right.

They're good. They are good. Yeah, we cannot sleep on Washington's D line. So for me, this is where that fantasy football is gonna have to come into play, get your best unit on the field in order to protect Dak Prescott and get the most out of your offense. Listen, hey, church anew hey, tell me this while we're on it, because I love Tyron, But do we see Tyron in Dallas Cowboys uniform again next season? To me, who, I don't know, Man, that's gonna be a tough We were

talking about it earlier. That's gonna be a tough decision. I mean just just because all, you know, all he's done here in this ten year and battling through injuries and you know, putting the doll on the line for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, it's tough. But at the end of the day, it is a business, and you can't go out there and have your left tackle, you know, only playing part of the year, you know, the past

couple of years. So for me, I think that's something that they got to look into and they might want to try to go ahead and get his replacement in the draft. I look at this situation from two aspects. When you ask that question, Danny, I looked first at Tyrn Smith. Does he want to keep playing? Tyrant has a Hall of Fame resume right now? Right now, all

decade player. And many years ago, when Ricky Waters is playing against the Eagles, he ran across the middle and the quarterback threw a ball that was gonna get him lit up, and he decided he wouldn't go go reach for it. And so people ask him after the game, They're like, well, why did you reach for the past? He said, for who? For what? He was like, why

am I gonna get killed? Who for what? And when I sit around here and I think about the question that's gonna hit tyrant Smith after this next surgery, it's for who for what? You need to I mean, you guys have played this game. And I tell everybody, all of my friends who don't play football, I tell I said, this game leaves everybody hurt. There's a one hundred percent casualty rate when you leave this game. I don't know anybody who's playing at this level for three or four

years that doesn't have something wrong with them. Okay, this thing, this, this takes stuff out of your body. So he's got a back, he's got a neck. How much longer do you want to keep doing this to the point where you can't bend over? You guys are seeing tiring, and you guys play with him, you know him personally, Here's a guy that likes being outdoors. You know, he's an

active guy. How much longer do you want to do this and take these kind of hits where you literally are debilitating yourself here, He's got nothing else to prove, Hall of fame, resume, fantastic tackle. So that's why I said, you gotta ask him what does he want to do? Because we saw what Travis Frederick Travis said, you know, I can't do this the way I want to do this, So he walked away. So I look at it from

his standpoint. From the Cowboys standpoint, I don't know if they can even cut tyrant Smith the way they've they've been pushing out these contracts. You know, they pushed out a bunch of contracts. Is here, so you already got you know, you got you paid part of Travis's money this year for five million. You got another five million you got to deal with next year. So you got to start to ask yourselves as this cap goes down.

You know, I don't know if the Cowboys in a position to just sit up here and tell him, hey, man, go ahead, call it a career. We're gonna move on without you. And then my last part on this, Danny, you talk about the draft. Okay, so you need a tackle because Tyrant's been hurt and missing three games out of the last it's gonna be five years now, three games a year. You got lel Collins. You know how Collins is gonna react, So you gotta tackle issue. You

got de tackle issues. Um, you probably got to go get another defensive end because Griffin's on a one year deal. Old the Smith's on a one year deal. You've got a corner issue because you're gonna have um A Woozier and Lewis who are free agents. You got safety issue that they still have yet to address. So when you to talk talking about cowboy draft picks, Lord knows where they go. They've got a lot of needs that are immediate.

And then if vander ash can't really come back here and show you he's the real deal, and Lord knows you shouldn't trust him, you shouldn't trust him right now, you may have to go get a linebacker. So I don't know where they go right now when you talk about a first round pick, I don't know where they go because they have so many holes that they need to feel I'm done. Yeah, and then yeah, listen, it sounds like it sounds like we're in some deep trouble

come twenty twenty one season. So if so, everybody out there, if you're listening and you think it's bad now, man, when you start figuring out who what we're gonna do in the draft and who's gonna be on this team next year, you're gonna I'm sure you'll be scratching your

head then too. But just to address the Tyrant Smith thing, I know we talked yesterday about trainers and players trusting the training staff, and one thing I didn't think about, and it just crossed my mind when you said, you know, we got to figure out what he wants to do. We're not even sure if if it was his idea to go get the second opinion because he really wants to play that bad. We don't know which which side

it was on. Maybe maybe our training staff told him, man, you need to shut it down for the season, and he said, look, I really want to play. This is what I do, this is what I love. I'm gonna get the second opinion if they say yes, are you guys okay with me playing, So we don't know where he is. I think that, you know, Church, you've been around guys who football is life and they were risking almost anything to play. So you know, you just got

to figure out where's mindset is. And he might be one of those guys who all he knows his football and he's gonna come back and give it a shot. So you know, we don't know what, so it'd be something interesting for us to wait and see. Man, that is true, and man, knew he You know, I was feeling so optimistic. I was out here singing my haul of notes. Man, I was vibing out and then man, you just listed that laundry list of problems that we

got calling on here. I'm over here thinking, Man, we'll be I, you know, get the draft and left tackle. But man, you're right, man, what are we going to do in the secondary. We got so many guys on the d line that haven't played up to par or a one year deals. What are we gonna do about Vanders who's been injured back to back? I mean, man, I was optimistic, but man, you just you just you definitely put a rain cloud on my situation over here. Man, geez,

you got to find a new song something. I mean, But when you start looking at at just the way the National Football League works, I mean Philadelphia as a team that has been ravaged by white receiver issues and on their offensive line. So when when you start digging into it, there's a lot of teams that have issues. We concentrate on the Cowboys because this is this is you know, the team that we deal in with year in, year round. I mean, the New York Jets have no

talent anywhere. You know, the Giants have talent issues at a whole lot of spots. So while the Cowboys have their own issues, they're not as bad as other teams. But we know, okay, we know from from watching this team all the time, they've got some serious issues. And if anything, we've kind of glossed over them. You know. I was one of those who did talk about an offensive tackle around the draft and say, hey, look it's something you've got to think about because you've had the

injury with Tyrn Smith. Now for me, this becomes a real interesting question. And then maybe they don't do it this year. But we've talked consistently amongst ourselves and other people have about Connor Williams being a guard, and maybe

the Connor Williams could be a better tackle. He's going to be coming up on his last last year in twenty twenty one, maybe, And I wonder is now the time to try and maybe put Connor at a tackle spot and then put Connor McGovern, a guy that they used a third round pick on two years ago, and play him. I mean to start to find out what some of these combinations are going to be, not just now, but also just moving forward, to see exactly what it

is you have. If they want to be committed to leaving Zack Martin at a guard and not moving him to tackle, fine, but I think one of these guys has to move, be it Martin or Connor Williams. Who I believe one. You know, one of these guys will be better than steal at Night. You know, I just believe that. And yes, Will's talked about Hey it's not

fantasy football, but this point in time, you're desperate. You know, this is a desperate situation because you'd have two guys that you counted on being there and what have we seen? These pass rushers are beating steal and Night. So you may have to go ahead, at least move one player out there who could possibly be better. And I hope that Kellen Moore and Mike McCarthy are out here now thinking of how they need to go to a quicker passing game because trying to do some of these drops

that they've done in the past. If Dak is not getting rid of the football very quick, he's going to find himself sacked or even fumbling with strip sacks like we saw with Miles Garrett where I felt like on the quarterbacks and he's got to know you got steal there one on one with Garrett. You got to get rid of the ball quicker. So there's there's some issues. Man. This coaching staff has got their work cut out for him. They got their work cut out for him. Yeah, you're right.

They got to start coaching first. They didn't even start yet. They stop at the start line. What are you talking about? I think I got the word cut off level we wanted three worst ever seen in my life trying. I'm trying to be nice, man, I'm trying to be nice. Alright, let's take let's take our first break here. We've got we still have our predictions to go for this uh for this Giant's game, and I feel like we haven't talked about the Giants all week long. But there's so

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New York Giants. A limited number of tickets are available. Get yours now at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash tickets. This is the players Lounge ROTI by Hotels dot Com. NWI Scrugs longtime Cowboys Report are joined by Barry Church Danny m Create, two former Dallas Cowboys safeties. All right, guys, are we ready to make a prediction? Are we ready to get into this whole thing here? Because I mean, we gotta do it. I figured we might as well just go ahead, get it on over with here. Let's

get it all over way. Yeah yeah, Church a man, Look, look, Nostre Damas. I've been off. I've been off my game lately. I mean last night's game and the week before. I've been off my game just a little bit. But you know, I am optimistic. Like I said, I got those good feeling vibes, so I feel like I'm getting right back to where I left off at. So let me go ahead and hitch out with the prediction and what's gonna happen? Um, I say, this game being early, it's gonna be back

and forth. But after the second quarter, I feel like Dallas is gonna take control of this game. I feel like Zeke's gonna go off. So I'm gonna go ahead and give it a thirty five to twenty one Cowboys victory. Wow. Okay, all right, okay, all right, okay, listen, I um, you know the first quarter of the season is over with, all right, So so we're officially into the second quarter. And I said I was going to stop picking these

games based on my emotion. All right, Well, this is not the week where I think we're gonna lose to the Giant. So I'm gonna say that we beat the Giants thirty one to twenty four. And it's going to be a very ugly start to the game. As usual, We're gonna make a lot of mistakes, but the Giants are going to make more in this game. We will somehow get a turnover for a touchdown. That that is how we will win this game. Are you saying it's gonna be an I N T and second? No, no, no,

it could be. It could be it could be it could be a lot kick, it could be anything. I'm not I believe me. I'm not cow know anything coming from our secondary. I've seen us drop picks and I've seen us look in the backfield at the quarterback while the ball is going over our head. So no, I just believe you will get some big play with will score and it will not be offensive. Daniel Jones is known for giving up the football, so so you do have that. I will sit with you guys on the

Cowboys winning. So I did my prediction yesterday for NBC five, so it's already on video. So I've got the Cowboys winning, but I have a close game. I went. I went with Dallas winning twenty seven twenty four. The Cowboys have issues here. The Giants have issues. And until I see the Cowboys go out here and be able to win a game going away convincingly, I've got to imagine it's

going to be a close football game. And mccraig, they come out here as they've normally have, starting off slow, and this game is a game they got a punch and fight back on. Then then I can see an issues. I mean, the Giants, to me, showed a lot of fight last week when they went out to Los Angeles and gave the Rams, gave the Rams all they wanted. Rams ended up winning it. But but you saw the Giants, Um,

they played well. It was a game. You thought the Giants were gonna get blown out of the water, and it just didn't happen. So I'm not ready to sit up here and say, hey, the Cowboys are gonna go ahead and get it all done and they just run away with this thing. Um, Jason Garrett still does know a little bit about this football team. And I'm talking about You've talked about the coach. You know, you talked

about the coaching on my carton. I gotta get I gotta see these guys, but you know what we gotta did you go out compliment if you go out and check out my video that I put on Channel five, I said, one of my favorites is coming to town. Jason Garrett, Offensive Coordinating Football Giants. Listen. Did you also did you also say that the Giants uh play they played harder than us, specifically on defense? Mum, I said

last week when they played hard right last week? But I saw last week, Yes, yes, yeah, they gave they get effort, let's go ahead and score and say don't yeah, if not, tap dance around it. Did they go give effort last week? Yeah, yeah they did. Was this a game out of the water? But but no, yeah, so okay, because we have, because we have, we have to get to the video. We have to get to the video.

It's not over yet. No, it's not old. It's so it's so bad that we gotta finish off the week with this taste in the mouth and we gotta spit this taste out this week. We gotta come out here and we gotta hustle. But I was I just want, you know, us on the players nows, we want to show everybody that it is possible for the backside corner to make place. It is possible for you to give full effort for the entire game. It is possible. It is not impossible. As Barack Obama was said to met

Rodney proceed, Danny proceed, go ahead? Man? Is that is that's that's se Kuan right there is that se Kuan Roller Man. A look at twenty f still on the team. Twenty four is still on the team. He was the backside corner, went down the chased that one of the fastest guys in the NFL. And you mean to tell me that you it's impossible. What does he It's exactly the ones out there. NEI, yeah, that's an exactly out there. Oh so he watched that, he saw it, He saw

the impossible. Ain't that something? Couldn't this grace. I'm gonna tell you, look at that hustle. That's a that's a Marinelli defense. Look at all the guys hustle. Everybody's still sprinting the twenty yards behind, say Quint, everybody sprinting. That's not something that you see us doing right now. And that's why I say the first quarter of the season over is over with, and we're gonna change that. Oh check this out again. Oh it breaks. Look at that

Byron Jones. We let him go. He could have still been on our squad. Chase down tackle. That's called that's that's that's that's effort, that's hustle. That is something that you can do. It takes no talent for you to be able to run and try to give full effort until the whistle blows. That is what you're talking a little bit right there. But running a little that's that's one of the plays where he went full speed. He gave it a shot, but he forgot about that with Mary.

When Mary Nilly Love, they don't do that. So I just want everybody to see that as possible, and hopefully the effort that you just saw on these last two plays, that's something that we see for the rest of the season, because, like we said, you can eliminate some of these big plays by just by just having an effort from your entire team. Man, just just looking at that video, man, it just reminded me how much I miss White Lightning

aka Jeff Heath back then. Man, I mean, look, this is a dude who got ridiculed and got destroyed by the fan base each and every week. Oh Jeff doesn't tackle good, Jeff doesn't create takeaways. Ye man, all he did was hustle and he was always in the right position. He might not always make the greatest plays, but he was never someone you just looked at him was like, man, his efforts just not there. He's just not the answer.

I mean, we wanted so bad to get you know, we gotta get one of these high price and then we gotta get one of these big time safeties and we let you know, arguably one of one of the one of the backbones of the defense. Go and I'm telling you from what I saw, man that just that just just may need missed Jeff heat that much more. Man, Mmm, what a loss? Oh oh, you want to see it again? Twenty four man, same guy on the team right now,

hustling like crazy. Jordan lewis out there still hustling. I'm telling you it's the coaches because they accepted these guys do not fear what's going on. They did not fear any consequences of repercussions for not spreading to the ball. When Marydell was here, you got put on blast. If you didn't hustle to the ball, you got put on blasts more more more so than if you didn't make the play. If you just if you miss missed the assignment,

then then you got blasted. But if you didn't hustle, that was like the biggest thing that you could do to piss Mary Nelly off. Yeah, So it was like, blasts. How do you fix this thing? If you're saying, ain't they're getting away with it? How is it fixed? It's gotta be for me, it's gotta be with the players. I mean, look, the players have got to go out there and they got to play with some type of pride for the name in the back of their jersey.

I mean, Mike McCarthy, he can go out there and do all the talking, do all the motivating, say hey, we gotta do this, we gotta do that. But to me, to change their culture, to change the philosophy of this team, it's gonna have to come down to the players. They're gonna have to go out there and show some type of respect for themselves on the field and just not

wanting to put this bad tape out there. I mean that was to me, that was one of the worst things you can do if you go out there and put bad tape, because not only are you putting that tape on there for your team to see that, but just if you're released or cut. I mean, there's there's thirty one other teams out there that are going to be looking at this tape and they're not gonna want to sign somebody that just you know, gives lackluster performance,

even if they're talented this heck. So for me, I think it comes down to the players. They're gonna have to change this culture and get back to the hustling ways because right now, what they're doing, it's what they're doing right now, just ain't cutting it. Look, And I think it's the players too. I think it's really important to understand what you used to talk about Garrett visions. The big thing about Garrett Vision and him making us watch it in front of our teammates is because he

was trying to make us hold each other accountable. So you should see your teammate, you know, not hustling and loafing, and you should say something to them. So when that happens in the game, they should feel obligated to sprint and hustle every snap because they owe to the person next to them. And I don't know if they have McCarthy vision. I don't know if they're getting put on blasts out there in front of each other, because if they are, and they still letting the slide, we have

a bigger issue than we could ever imagine. I doubt it.

I doubt they're doing that that Garrett vision, because I mean it was embarrassing the back, you know, I mean, you sat beside me and new team meetings like I would have theres the player that I would I would count, I would know the specific play that was coming up, and it would just you would just duck your head or kind of like cower down, like, man, I hope they just go through this, and it would it would only be about thirty seconds of watching that tape, but

it would feel like it was twenty minutes, and they just ridiculing on you, man, what do you do this right here? This is Garrett's favorite right here, fellas, this just is not acceptable. That's right here. Just can't just can't cut it. And he would just have that laser pointer just circling circling your body on the tape like this is just not acceptable. It can't happen, and it's embarrassing.

And I don't know if they do that still, man, but that was embarrassing someone guys, what are we doing? What are we doing? This is just not it? Kidding me? Are you kidding me? This is just not it Like it was embarrassing. It's funny you said that because they had robbed Nikovich on on esp the other day and Nikovich played for for New England and they they said, hey, what would Bill Belichick said he did this big Belichick thing. He said. He looked at me, He's like, what are

we doing? Jesus Christ. That's just how he pointed that finger at him. Man. But but it's funny you say that, because coaches had their own way, and I remember they would talk about how it got like Tony Dungey, we just look at you, you know, just just just just give it that look and you just knew that look of just and that's you know, those are those are the ways that that they've got to get to. I don't know what Mike McCarthy does. He's secretive about everything.

He doesn't want to tell us what you're doing with the players, or how he addresses the players. It's a big old secret. So maybe maybe behind this, I don't know, maybe they taped somebody on the shoulder. Hey, can you get a little bit of effort next time? That's okay with you? Can we work out a little something here? Thing, you know, can we give a little bit I don't know, I don't know. I don't know how it works, man, I don't know how it works. But obviously something needs

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going thirty one twenty four, Cowboys winning. I am going with a closer football game at twenty seven, twenty four game that the Cowboys are going to win. So we have we're all saying the Cowboys win just a little bit differently here last night, By the way, I believe that you guys were absolutely wrong. Here we go Church.

Church said that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers by he said Uncle Tom was gonna win that one twenty three and d Max and that Nick Foles and then had no, he didn't believe in the Bears offense, and that Tampa baby win thirty one to ten. And I said a twenty four, twenty one, Chicago, when the Bears eke out to win twenty to nineteen, with Tom Brady at the end not even knowing how it was. He thought it was fourth down when the Bay was over, Like, what

are you talking about, dude? And what's interesting? Did you watch during the game where Tom out here yelling at people, Tom out here on the sideline yelling folks, and then this food don't even know how many downs there are at the end of the game, like this operation They reason why one reason why I didn't pick Tampa Bay to win the game was because they took all the Chargers last week and the Chargers ended up blowing a

game they should have won. So I felt like Tampa still had issues, and going on the road to Chicago, I thought the Bears would perform well enough to win, and the Bears have a good defense, and so the Bears defense made a tougher and so I just figured I'd go with the home cooking, and that's why I picked the Bears to win. Listen, I know everybody was getting on Tom Brady for yelling at this old lineman and then messing up at the end. He couldn't he

couldn't have seen it. He was gonna mess it up the way that he was getting put on his back and the persson was coming to him at that point where he was yelling at the old Liman on that series, I would have yelled at them too. I was talking about penalties, Russian dudes getting hip flip by Khalil mac all type of crazy stuff going on out there. They need they needed a little talking to my dude. One

dude head button. People getting fifteen yard penalties. Come on, man, they needed somebody to talk to them, kind of like we need somebody on the Cowboys and talking and listen to it. You were right tonight, though you'll be wrong because he and six is dead. We talked about football, No, no, we talked about women. Were talking about women of the movie. We made that bet. We made that bet on the Football Show. It's all right, Yeah, I don't remember that.

I don't remember saying that at all, So just just let you on. I remember that, But you know, I'm just gonna be happy. Dwight Howard gets a ring. Do I have White Howard? Dwight Howard will do what Carl Malone failed to do to jump on the team and it went a ring Howard. So who me? White Howard has been passed around the league man in Alaska. I mean he get passing to White around and Dwight's gonna end up winning a dog older he and JaVale McGee.

JaVale McGee is gonna win another NBA championship Ring Church, do you hear this? Of all the stuff here, all accomplishments that just getting made tonight with a D and Lebron and all this stuff, he said he is happy, but what he wants to see is the White Howard super man. I mean, he was getting tossed around like a hot potato man. But hey, I guess he landed at the right spot. I mean he even got him

another one. Jr got him, you know, he Jr. Hey man, they ride Lebron, Abody jumped on Lebron back and getting themselves some rings. And no poor Karl Malone, he tried to jump on that Laker bandwagon with Kobe and Shocking. They got blown out by the Pistons, so Carl never got his ring. Gary Payton joined him, and then Gary Payton went from from the Lakers and then ended up jumping on that Miami bandwagon with d Wade and Shack and he ended up finally getting himself a ring that way.

But yeah, we Dwight Howard gonna end up with a ring. You know, be able to talk. You'll be able to talk trash to Charles Barkley. Now, next time they on the White Howard World Champion, he contributed. Though the White Howard contributed to the ring, I will give him that he played. He played. He played some good ball, especially when they needed some big man in there. He gave some good minute so he didn't just he not Jr. And this and this. Uh in this instance, I will

give you that one. Yes, yes, yes, indeed. But y'all still was wrong about the Tampa ba Oh. We're not gonna count as many times you've been wrong with the current topic. So before I came in to do the show, I was having lunch and was driving around and I was I was listening to the Cowboy flagship station here in Dallas Fort Worth one O five three the fans, and they were talking about trading players, and someone on

the show brought up trading wide receiver Michael Gallup. And you know those times, I don't know how you guys, you view you think about sports radio. But I just wanted to turn the station off because I just said to myself, you're not trading Michael Gallup and getting any good defensive piece. And Michael Gallup and when you think about the money he's making, Michael Gallops is to me,

Gallup is a piece that you want to keep. Um. But nobody in football right now, especially when you start thinking about how guys are dealing with COVID and so many injury issues, nobody's trading you a good player. They're just not gonna do it. So if anybody's thinking that the Cowboys can make some trades and then all of the Sids fix some stuff here, this is not this is in baseball. This is in basketball. I don't believe there's a trade out there that the Cowboys are gonna make.

To me, that's gonna go ahead and fix this football team. There's not another Amari Cooper trade out there. And then somebody had texted into the station trade Amari Cooper for two first round picks? Like what what? What land are you living in? Its trading for that? And they just gave Amari Cooper one hundred million dollars contracts. So the salary cap hits would be. It just doesn't work. But but fans who are just thinking that they're going to

all of a sudden make some major trades. And somebody hit me up on Twitter saying, you know, the Cowboys need to go ahead and give us the draft picks and go get somebody who's got tackle depth, who has offensive tackle depth in the National Football League, and who's willingly going to give it up. No one is right now. The Cowboys are basically gonna be stuck with what they've got here. They really are, guys. Go ahead, you, Matt, Yeah, listen, listen,

and it won't happen. And what I'm about to say makes no sense, But it's just me being mad at Keller. If you're gonna trade some the way, if you're not gonna feature this guy in the offense and focus the office around him, just trade twenty one. I'll be goodness Grace. Just get him out of here. Let Tony Powler run you let him start the game once already, start with the whole series. You're throwing the ball all over the

play fifty sixty times. The man ain't getting that many carriers, I mean, not as many carries I think he should get well, let him go if you're not gonna focus the offense around him. You paid him this big contract and he's been the bell cow of our offense for the last four or five years, and all of a sudden, now he's not the guy. I don't understand it. So they won't trade him. They shouldn't. But this is my shout out to Kelly to say, focus the offense on

Ezekiel Elliott. That is the way that you are going to win games. Yeah, and I sincerely doubt they would do that, But I get your point, man. I mean they're not running the bell cow back like like we thought they would. I mean, even when they were down twenty something in Atlanta, they fed the gout a rock and we got it back into the game. We just haven't seen that amount of touches or production from from Zeke. But I get what you're saying there. But back to

uh to um gallop. I mean, that's that's that's crazy, that's just click bait. That's ridiculous. I mean, look, the dude is arguably your best receiver on the team right now. I mean he's winning all his deep balls. I mean it seems like nobody can cover them, so you would leave, you would you would trade off your best offensive weapon. Right now, that's just crazy to me, and it won't happen. It won't happen. But like I said, it's just clickbait.

That's crazy. Now, Danny, you know the three of us are outliers in terms of saying, hey, give twenty one the football. Yeah. I mean, I've put that out on Twitter before, and I've had these these analytics people come after me talking about that's not the way to win. You gotta throw and keep slinging it. And Bucky Brooks and said it too, and they went after Bucky, and Bucky went back and forth through these people. I just I just let it go. But there's there's a bunch

of folks out here who don't believe in it. They don't think you should pay a running back. They think running back to just interchangeable, that it's all about just throwing the football, and that's what the analytics tell them. But all I know is I watched Cleveland come in here and run the football and they didn't have Baker Mayfield throwing the football over the place, and they pounded

the Cowboys almost put fifty on the Cowboys. And when I go back and I think about, what's the most successful year that Dak and Zeke had together, it was the first year. And you know what that Cowboy team was. It was a ball control offense where they were given it to Zeke and they were limiting Dak Prescott. When I think about the best year I ever saw for

Tony Romo, one of their most successful years. They were twelve and four, Jason Garrett's Coach of the Year, DeMarco Murray offensive Player of the Year in the International Football League. That was when Romo was limited and they ran the daylights and ran the dickens out of DeMarco Murray in his final year before he hit free agency. Why won't guys go back and do that very thing that worked?

The Cowboys were the Super Bowls with Emmitt Smith. They won a Super Bowl with Tony Dorsett running the football works. I don't care what anybody says about these whole analytics things, but it's just us, though, It's just us. Go ahead, Church, And then then I finish, I think I'll cut you off. No, no,

you he was going with it. Go ahead, all right, well, listen, listen, look around the league, all right, and when we say give the ball to Zee, it ain't just you know up, you know, power left, power, right, counter left, count of right. Look around the league. Christian mccaffree focal point of the offense. Kamara focal point of the offense. These are teams that pay these guys and their and their focal points of

the office, and they help their office run. These guys are successful, successful, and when a defensive coordinator comes in, they know that they have to focus and stop these guys. And we don't have that. And Ezekiel Elliott has always been that guy, so it's confusing to why all of a sudden he's not. And our offense has changed to back throw on a ball fifty sixty times a game. And it's no wonder why we're one and three. It doesn't work, and it's been proven not to work over

the years for us as the Cowboys. And for some reason, all of a sudden, analytics would say that we used to switch. And and you know, Mike McCarthy brough analytics here analytically we are one and thirty and looking more. Look, I mean the only way I think you know, the running back by approach or all that you know anybody can do it is if you're running the ball against our defense. I mean, that's the only way that think for me. I mean, Louis you you may you put

you hit it right on the head, man. Like our best formula, our best team that we had and in recent years was two thousand and sixteen when we were feeding the rock to Zeke and we were were limited Dak Prescott's only making throws when he had maybe third and sixes or something like that, and we had a highly successful year. Now, look, you know, Zeke, he got to step it up a little bit on the run game.

I mean he you know, he's fumbling the ball a little bit too much, and he hasn't had those those big time spark plays that were used to seeing from him. But they got to give him more opportunities. So to me, look, they got to get back to that formula and back in two thousand and sixteen two eighteen when they were running a ball heavy and limiting Dak Prescott. But this whole running back by approach, Jing, it's just not gonna work. I don't believe. So I forgot I forgot Tennessee in

Minnesota as well with Davin Cook and Derek Henry. My bad as far as teams that focus on their running backs and they have success. Look at the Rams. I mean the Rams went to the Super Bowl. It was it was a Todd Gurley based offense. And I remember that playoff game in which the Cowboys played. It was Todd Gurley and Anderson who just toward the Cowboys on. They ran the football and went went to a Super Bowl. And what did the Rams do and game went against

the Cowboys? They ran the football. I mean this year they ran the football. They're running the ball and they're having success. And that's something that for the strangest thing, people around here who think they're math gurus and they're not don't want to hear it. But let's also talk about the complimentary football that you have to play. This is a Dallas defense that can't stop anybody. So what is the best way you can help your defense keep

them off the field. They can't get exposed if they're on the sidelines. So that's another bit in a fit of running the football, is you run the clock? Last night, you guys watch that Bears game. Mattnegie out here throwing the ball with what did you need to do. Take time off the clock, so you didn't put your defense back out here, give Tom Brady a chance, and luckily the defense saved him. But just another these offensive gurus, these guys that want to throw all the time, they

drive me crazy that. I mean, the Bears won, but had they lost that game, if Brady takes him down the field and they kick a field goal, everybody and their brother would have been on the head coach, and rightfully so, because he's not doing You got too many of these ex quarterbacks, too many of these guys who are offensive. You know, they're offensive guys who are head coaches.

I just believe that they're making a mistake. And when I look across this league and I look at some of the best coaches of all time, you look at their backgrounds. They're defensive guys. Bill Belichick defensive guy, Tom Landry defensive guy, Chuck Nol defensive guy, Pete Carroll defensive guy. You know, guys who think different league. These these defensive coaches are apt to think more about how to protect the defense and not just hey, let's just throw, throw,

throw and throw throw. And I think that's Jimmy Johnson, Jimmy Johnson go on the Hall of Fame. Jimmy was a defensive guy. Bill Cowards about to go in the Hall of Fame, Bill Coward defensive guy, Tony Dungee in

the Hall of Fame, defensive guy. At some point in time, while everybody wants to love up and get hire the Sean mcvains of the world and the Kyle Shanahans, you may want to ask yourself, do you have a defensive a coach out there the understands how to play complimentary football because a lot of those guys are winning championships.

Point yeah, yeah, and listen, and you forget to mention that, like we talked about earlier, your offensive line right now is struggling, you know, to find a rotation and keep guys healthy. I can guarantee you that the majority of offensive lineman would rather pool than kickstep versus versus a big time pass rusher. They would rather come out the ball and smack the defensive line in the mouth and run block versus dropping back, you know, and trying to

pass the past set fifty six times a game. I can guarantee you that they will be more comfortable running the ball. It will help out your entire team, your office, them aligning your defense. And I just don't understand why it's not a focal point when it can help us in so many areas. I know, I know, all right, fellas been a fun week here. It's been a fun week man. And uh, we'll convene on Monday and it'll it'll either be victory Monday or Monday moaning. So we'll

get into that. And as we get ready to leave, Chris Bean, we appreciate you handling the show. Um. Remember Church, it is Hall and Notes, not Oates in Hall. Okay, I got you, I got you, big dog. Go on go on YouTube and look up Shaquille O'Neal singing Man Eater. He sang it on T and T during at the NBA All Star Game. He was singing it with another guy, Whey or Las Vegas, and Shaq was doing pretty good for the first first two or three lyrics. Did he

butchered after the rest? He didn't know. But it's absolutely a fun clip of him singing Hall of Notes. So they did. They got Man Man Eater two. Yes, I know, Man Hall Classics watch out Boys, Yes, yes they might. They might be top ten overall. Man. I don't know, Okay for the show. Hey, I'm just saying, man, they might be top ten, that's all. I'm know the name, and you didn't know, and you didn't know that that they was white, not a top ten, they were black.

He thought, we go back, we go back, go back. They had they had Jerry Curls. I saw him just about it. It It was summertime. Yeah, hey, hey, I'm gonna throw you another one at you. Hey, Church, Michael McDonald is white. In case you didn't know that, I knew Michael McDonald was like I knew that. They threw me off. I saw him from a distance, you know, I mean, but hey, we go way back. Man, they might be top ten in my book. That's all I'm saying. Man.

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