Player's Lounge: Too Good Not To Take?

Right here, all the players lound, I'm new He Scrubs, joined by former Dallas Cowboys defensive backs Danny McCray and Barry Church. Fellas, how are we doing on a Friday? And how do we feel about see Lamb going to the Cowboys at number seventeen the OPA wide. Go ahead, Church, I'll let you start this on offer. Well, you know, hey, from my from my personal opinion, you know, they don't pay me the big bucks to be at GM or anything like that. But I mean to me, I don't

I don't understand the pick. But um, I guess he's an explosive wide receiver and we just added a strength to a strong position that we already had. Um. For me, I thought we were gonna go for sure, without a without a doubt cornerback. But I guess the Cowboys felt that Ceedee Lamb was that explosive of a playmaker and that much of a need for this offense that he can change the dynamic of everything that he needs to

go up seventeen. So if he's the highest guy and you're born at that time, I guess you choose what you know you're highest guy, and they did that with Cde Lamb. Hopefully it pays off. Yeah, same here. I mean, I know we talked about them drafting the receiver a little bit, but we all expected them to go defense. I'm not mad at them for going offense. I mean, you see the Chiefs, you need to score. I think the guy that we had them picking in the first round,

he didn't get picked at all. So maybe all the teams felt the same way as the Cowboys did as far as picking that guy. So, and I know they didn't expect Ceedee Lamb to fall to them at seventeen, So having them having him fall there, I think that's something that they just figured they couldn't pass up on. So I'm actually excited about it. I mean, if you

talk about weapons and no excuses. This is a perfect perfect storm for no excuses for not being able to score points on offense, so it should get done well. I'm excited the fact that we don't have to hear Danny talk about an LSU player all the Cowboys toga, So I just sit around here and talk about that. But you won't know. You all know how I felt. I felt they had to go defense, that needed to

address the defense. But as Bill Parcels used to say when he coached the Dallas Cowboys, I reserve the right to change my mind. Here you are at seventeen and you're looking at CD Lamb, who you had ranked sixth on your board fall to you. So you have the ability to get a blue chip player at seventeen. So what do you do considering that the other player that you like was was caleban Chasing from LSU. I do not fault the Cowboys at all for living up to

their board saying we will take the best player available. Now, this pick of CD Lamb is going to be good if, if, and only if they use day two and most of day three addressing the defense. I better not hear another offensive player Friday at eighty two. Don't talk about some tight end. Don't talk about some offensive tackler guard. It better be so dog one defense here. The Cowboys with Cede Lamb, Hey, they're gonna be able to score thirty five a game, but you do not be trying to

give up forty two. Because my first start is are they going to become the alcohol service? Because what are receiving? No defense? Stop? Anybody listen. A lot of teams were following following the path that the Kansas City Chiefs put out there. Right. Offense has been it seems like it's more important than defense, except if you're playing in Miami. Everybody else is going offense across the board. Miami has three top notch corners, so they can cover these guys. So,

I mean, I'm not surprised. I'll take it. I really I would have hoped that it was justin Jefferson, only not because he went the LSU, even though that plays a little bit into it. But he's more of a slot receiver than CD Lamb is, so I thought that would have been a better fit at receiver. But I don't know GM either. Yeah, and then if you look at it, if you look at it through this way, I mean Gallup has one more year on his contract left. If I'm not mistaken, that was rookie deal where he

had two more years left. Two Oh you got two more So me, you don't want to maybe have a you know, I don't want to have to worry about him in free agency. You got City Land that can step right up in there. So I don't know. But if i'm if I'm Michael Gallup, I'm kind of salty. I ain't gonna lie, Okay, I'd be kind of salty just because you got Amari Cooper who's already proven, got a hundred meal, you're on your way up, you got

over a thousand yards last year. You're thinking, oh, this is my time, and then boom there you go take that back seat. A first round pick on going to be a number three receiver. I don't believe that one. He can't be as mad as Aaron Routs this, so tell him to get over. It can happen to anybody. This is true. This is true. Very ill balance out what you just said about Gallup here. So Gallup has two years left on his contract and Amari Cooper signed a five year deal, but it's really a two year

forty million dollars. Cowboys can get out of this sucker. So this is really a two year deal for Cooper. He can get himself back out on the market. So if you're the Cowboys, you make may make the choice to say um goodbye to Cooper and you keep Gallup if you can keep him out of lower price tag. So I'll tell you this, I think right now all these guys are gonna be in a real good position because Ceedee Lamb is a five year contract for the cowboy.

So from the cowboy standpoint, at least, you probably gonna get yourself stability and you'll make a choice between Gallup and Cooper along the way. Here. That's my take on of what I'm seeing right now. Yeah, I have to

agree with you on that one. I mean my take on if Gallup can make another step forward and this year, like we saw last year, how he kind of took that big leap, went up for a thousand yards, he became that bona fide number two receiver, if he can take another leap forward this year, I would definitely guarantee them getting out of that Cooper contract within two years.

But I just I just don't see him making that big of a leap with this with Ceedee Lamb being on the roster just because there's just not enough balls to go around. I mean, you're gonna get that first round draft pick his fair share of receptions. You just pay them. Mark Cooper a Hunting, he's gonna get his. You paid Blake Jarwin, he's gonna get a couple of years. So I don't know where the balls go to gallup,

but we'll see what happens. Yeah, work out. So mccraig, overall, when you look at what this offense is, where do you see Ezekiel Elliott in terms of you know, now they've got these shiny weapons here, they're gonna go three wide here, um, and what do you see the Cowboys do? And how does Michae McCarthy make this work? I see, I see a heavy eleven personnel. I see a lot of zone read between Dak and Zeke, and I see

a lot of Amari Cooper in the slot. I see them using Amari Cooper similar to how New Orleans uses Michael Thomas and puts them everywhere on the field and maximizes any matchup that they see that they can take advantage of. So I still see them splitting it, splitting it, running pass. But I see a lot of zeke uh and a lot of a lot of coop. Okay, So Church, go back to the drafting of Ceedee Lamb. They're sitting here at seventeen. They've got the ability to take a corner.

They can take Christian bellas you you can take Trade Giggs right there. You've got the defensive edge player in in Caliban chasing, and they go for Cede Lamb. So initially, just just what was your thoughts when you heard them call out CD Lamb at seventeen? My initial thoughts, I mean I started laughing, and I mean I was like, man, leaving up to them boys to throw a wrench in your plans. But I mean for me, it was just,

you know, you lost so much defensively. I mean, you lost your quarterback in the secondary and Jeff Heed you lost your top cornerback and Byron Jones, and you're left with three corners who U they're not they haven't really been balls savvy outside of George Lewis, who's primarily a slot corner. So I just felt like, this is this is the draft. It was cornerback deep. I mean, you had your choices. I mean the guy from Florida, he was taking off the board. I think Jacksonville got him

a little bit earlier than the Cowboys picked. But other than that, I mean, you had your choices at corner so and safety so um and defensive line as well, even though they took your boy from South Carolina earlier. But other than that, I mean they had their choice of defensive players. They chose to go offense, maybe just because they wanted to make that strength, like I said before,

the receiving corps even stronger for Dak Prescott. But we'll see, man, I mean they, like you said, MC, creator's no excuses now with this loaded offense, They've got to be putting up hello points out there. Got to Now, if I'm Dak Prescott, I look at all these weapons here, and there's no excuse. I mean, especially when he signed to this contract. Okay, when he signs to this contract, there is no excuse at all. There are weapons galore everywhere

you go. I'm not gonna say they're Kansas City. I think that's a little bit unfair to try and put them in that Kansas City category, because I mean they're they're just their own group. But I'm expecting these guys to put up points in a New Orleans Saints type of fashion. They're pretty good at that. Sean Sean Payton does a great job of scheming, and I'm expecting Mike

McCarthy to do the same thing. So needless to say, in my fantasy football league, I will not be able to get down Prescott and eleventh round like I did last year, or Michael Gallup in a round thirteen. Okay, this is going to be I mean, look, Dak Prescott, I mean, if he's not in the Pro Bowl next year, you're gonna shake your head, right, I mean you, you aren't gonna shake here with all these weapons. We lost a Nui, you still got him. No, Yeah, I can

hear you was breaking in and out. Okay, we're good, We're good. So so Church, what are you expecting from Dak Prescott now that they've added CD Lamb into this line I couldn't hear one more time? Say it again one more time? I said, what do you expect from Dak Prescott now that they've added CD Lamb into this lineup?

I expect them to be extremely balanced. I feel like they tried to do that last year, but Dak had that head start in the first three games, so they kind of went heavy pass and then they went back to heavy run. They really couldn't find themselves later on in the season. But I feel like this year, especially with Mike McCarthy at the him, I feel like they'll be extremely balanced. I mean, they get the best running back in the league right now, and then you have

three bona fire receivers out there. I mean, you got Ceede Lamb, who he hasn't had a snap yet in the NFL, but I'm expecting big things out of him. I feel like, like you just said, Mike McCarthy, he's a great schemer. He's able to get his playmakers open and get them the ball. So I feel like they'll be able to pass the ball around a lot. So

I see them being extremely balanced. I still see them starting off with the run note, getting things dominated on the run side of the ball before they opened up the pass, kind of like we saw back at two years ago when they won a division. So I feel like it's going to be extremely balanced team offensively wise, and hopefully on the defense we can get a little something to help us out back there. But offensively we should be just fine. McCray, What are you expected from

that next year? M okay. So when I when I when I look here at what Mike McCarthy is able to set up this offense. To me, I think of just pressure. That's what I'm thinking. That they're gonna be able to put some pressure on teams, of pressure on defenses. And then when I look across the NFC East, because ultimately that's what you got to do for you gotta win your division first. And if you win that division first by putting pressure on guys, well, I tell you

what this is really good. Now. I know Washington took Chase Young in the first round them, I look at the Giants defense, and if we know they had question marks of the DV position there, and we know that the Eagles had issues with their DV situation. I know they got Darius Slay, but he's just one guy. M The Cowboys are going to be able in this division to really make guys decide, hey, how do you cover

this team? And if they got to play a lot of diamond nickel here, then maybe you have an opportunity before to me get Ezekiel Elliott your pass game more. We know Tony Poll can do some more in the pass game, and if they give Blake Jarwin more opportunities that catch the ball down the field, down the scene, this offense, man, I'm telling you, this offense should do

its part to put up the points. And maybe by putting up points they help their defense because they can make another team one dimensional that they have to try and match the points they put up Church were spent. Yeah, you know, after my first disappointment of the draft pick, now I'm starting to you know, things are starting to come back to me, and I'm starting to think maybe this offense could be a little a little dangerous out there. Like you said, I mean, you can pick your poison

out there. You got Jarwin, who's a mismatched nightmare for any linebacker, any safety, and if you do decide to throw a corner on them, he's too big for them. So, like you were saying, that dime package, and if they do though dime, then that's when you feed Zeke. With only one linebacker in there, there's no way you can stop this running attack. So they can be extremely dangerous. And that's not even bringing in the receivers into account.

You know, the sliding cde Land if they chose to put them there Cooper Gallop so that these guys are extremely dangerous. They have a great offensive line in front of them, So, like you said, there's no excuses for this offense to not produce Hella points and put pressure on opposing teams and hopefully, you know, it relieves a

little bit of pressure off this defense. Knowing that this offense, if they perform to the potential, can go out there and outscore anybody no matter how many points their defense gives up. So if that's the philosophy going forward, I hope it works out for them, But they gotta make sure this offense is poting it all point because I don't feel like this defense is going to be able to stop much of anything unless they get a lot of great dram choices coming up in these next couple

of rounds. One thing that struck me as interesting McCray is when when Jerry Jones was talking with the media, he said he wanted CD Lamb to wear number eighty eight because it was a fellow for Arkansas, and the CD Lamb said he came out war number ten and in my media thought was Jerry dump dead. We can end the death discussion. Okay, let's bring back dead. It's like Jerry's like, I don't I don't know who he is anywhere. I want seed either where in the eighty eight.

So so death talk done? Okay, right? Am I right there? Death? How did I know? How did I know that Den was gonna come up today? I knew that you had to put a knife in it. New it. I knew you had to put a knife in it. But yes, we talked to the masses want death back. You know, we see the best Cowboys Twitter. Okay, we see it. I said now, I said, now, the desk talk coming back to the Cowboys is officially dead. It's over not happening. Yeah, yeah,

I think it's. Yeah, it's officially done. I mean, you know, I don't think they'll be they'll be posting any more of des Brown workout videos on you know, on Dalla Stowboys dot com or anything like that. I mean, it's it's so crazy how the world changes like that. Man, I mean, one minute, bring him back. He can do it. He can be our slot receiver, even even our tight end. And then next day isn't eighty eight Oh that CD lamb? What you're talking about like, I mean, it's it's crazy.

It's crazy. This man go. He gonna give eighty eight to It's had a fantastic run. We know what his numbers are with the Cowboys, but it don't I mean, so so Lamb is wearing ten, So the eighty eight, I don't know. Maybe they just put it on ice for a minute right now. But but but Dez is not coming back. Jerry Jerry Jerry Stock have a dream and shower about disk because he's got CD lay So so that's what. They're still friends. Yes, they're still friends.

He can still come to the sweet and watch the games. I do think Dez will play in the NFL as year, but clearly it won't be for the Cowboys. But I tell you what, let us take a break right now. Rounds two and three R tonight. The Cowboys have pick fifty one, they have to pick eighty two. There are a couple of names, and I'm seeing mock to the Cowboys. Let's dive into this next because they must go defense, defense, defense, defense. He's Danny McCray, Burry Church on escorts. This is the

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Based on GWS one scre September twenty nineteen. Back to the Players Loud Friday meets Players Lounge right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio nw he scrugs joined by former Dallas Cowboys defensive players Danny McCrae and Barry church So Cede Lamb is the guy we all thought they'd go defense. But the three of us are okay, because Cede Lamb was a top six guy on the Cowboys draft. Ward, you got a blue chip player, so they get a blue ship player at seventeen, no matter the position. Fine,

we'll go with that. But today, round two, pick fifty one, it must be defense. Round three, pick eighty two, it must be defense. Gentlemen, are we all in agreement on that? Yes, yes, I agree, offense office should be done. Okay, Now I'm gonna give you some Mott drafts from two people I like following in their work. One is Dane Bruger, who also does work with us right here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. So at number fifty one, he's got Treylon Diggs, the corner from Alabama. He picks he can fall to

fifty one in the second round. And this is he's got them picking Diggs over Grant Helpit, Christian Fulton, Ross Blacklock defensive tackle from TCU, and Kyle Dugger the safety. What do you think about that? Church, I'm I'm one hundred percent agreement with that one. Um. You know, Diggs was my first round picked from the jump. So if they can pick up Ceedee Lamb as well as get Diggs later in or get Digs in the second round, I think that that would be a great haul for him.

This is a long, linky kid, like I said before, that can pretty much run with anybody, and he's physical as well. So this is a corner that, you know, the Cowboys need, especially with the loss of Byron Jones. And a lot of people were saying, you know, get the safety out of Alabama and McKinney. But um, if you got you know how high Clinton Dick's back there, and you got Woods back there who have had NFL experience and they're both you know, pretty solid safeties back there.

I don't think he's in. He's a need as a necessity, but cornerback is definitely a necessity. And I think Diggs fits the mold and I'd be happy if they grabbed him in the second round. It is there. I know I talked to all this about having three safeties. But Church, do you remember when we had Brodney Pool come in and he was supposed to be the starter and then he got beat out by the dude named Barry Church, And then we had another guy We had another guy

that they paid, Jasper Brinkley, that came in. It was supposed to be a starter, and then he got his spot taking as well, didn't even start on the team. I think the same thing could happen with Clinton dix Um. It's hard to pass up on the talent like Delpa if he falls to you in the second round. So I wouldn't be upset if they got him. But the smart decision, as it would have been in round one, is to go ahead and get you a corner to show if that spot that uh that Byron Jones left

when he signed with Miami. Okay, So Dan Brugler goes Trigg. Traylon Dick's at fifty one zerline at NFL dot com is going with an edge rusher Julian Arqua from Notre Dame, and he's taking the edge guy over and just going down his his my drafting second round over Christian Fulton, the corner chin, the defensive safety um ray Qua, Davis tod Line for Alabama and the great delpit of LS shield. I don't see it. I don't see it either. Go ahead, go ahead, d Mac, Yeah, same thing. I don't see it.

I think they've picked up some guys, they're waiting on some guys get reinstated. That you got d Law, you got some the the inside, the interior lineman coming back. You need to show up the second day. This is a passing league and right now this is where we're hurting that. So it just doesn't make sense to just keep stacking up on the D line when you need to go fill up a cover corner or safety. Yeah, and you got the D line there, and you went and got McCoy from Tampa Bay. They went't got don

Terry Poe. I mean they already got some guys in there. So I think the D line, I would I would get another pick, but not as high as a second I think they got to go to the second day right here. Like you said with Grant delpit Um, he's a versatile player out there. I mean he can play safety, he can play nickel, he can play whatever you need that honeyback of a safety that the NFL is going towards.

So he would be a great pick there. But like you, like I said earlier, with the D line, they got McCoy, they got po I don't think you need to waste a second round pick on them. But to me, I think Diggs is that guy. But we'll see. Okay, So in the third round at pick eighty two, Dame Brugler who lost to be on the Dallas Cowboys broadcast here, um has Terrell Burgess of Utah. He's got him going there, d Lineman, and then their line has tightened. Harrison Bryant

going to the Cowboys at eighty two. Church your thoughts on those two picks, and McCray you follow him. I think the d line picking the third would be would be a good selection there. Like I said, I don't think the second. I think second is a little bit too high to get those guys, seeing as though you have brought those veteran players in there. But for that fourth round pickause, I think he said tight end. I mean I wouldn't be surprised. I would not be surprised

if the Cowboys went with another offensive pick. I mean sometimes I feel like they they can't help themselves and they go ahead and sprinkle some offense in there. So we'll see, but I hope they spend the rest on defense. I do not agree with anohing tight end in there, especially since you got two young ones in there. And Shultz and and Jarwin. So I don't I don't agree with that, but like I said, sometimes the Cowboys can't help themselves and they'll sprinkle some offense in there. Yeah,

I'm even with the D line. I'm still not sure about that one. I think we have enough pieces and for us to make it through and we could make it to six or seventh to get another D lineman. We need defensive backs. It's just obvious that we are going to be facing some past happy offense, some guys with some weapons, and we need some guys to cover those people, especially in our division. So I think that safety and corner or two corners we just need. You

can never have enough guys that can cover. Just put it that way. So in the draft, we need to go find those guys so we can have them ready to play this fall because we will be seeing a lot of past happy offenses. Let me ask you a question.

Go ahead, go ahead, no, no, no Church hit, but all right, so let me ask you a question to new So if they trot out a B Brown, George Lewis and a Woozia as you're starting three and eleven personnel, are you gonna be okay with that for the regular season, No, no, no. As I said before you took CD Lamb, you took the best player. May be helped your off. It's fine, but now it's truly drafting for need here. You you to me, you got to fix and address the defensive backfield.

Mitch Trubisky lit the Cowboys up for three touchdowns and ran one in. I had forgotten that. I remember the kid Jeff Driscoll Detroit. He came off the bench, guy hadn't played, and he lit up the Cowboys. Um, we saw Sam Arnold, So you got to go ahead and add some guys here. I think the second round pick is going to be a defensive back. And the way it all fell with all the safeties, nobody can go in the first round and a lot of corner guys in the second round, the Cowboys are going to be

in a great position. But if it's up to me, and I'm looking at Christian Fulton, Tray Bond Digs and Grant Delpots sitting there for me in the second round, I'm going for the corner. I gotta fixed the corner spot before I go to the safety. Far I agree, so so so who who's who's your first corner. So so let's put those three in order. So you gotta delp it, Digs in Fulton, who what which order are you putting those guys in as far as is best

best available? Oh you know, I would probably go Fulton Diggs, Yo, gotcha? All right? So so so you can't really lose if Digs and Fulton are both there, you're just picking either one of those before delpot It makes sense. Yeah, I mean, I take that. I mean and for me and Danny, you know, because you played in that in that conference. When you're playing the SEC, you're getting tested everyone. I mean in that division in the WS, just a lot of talent. We saw a record number of SEC guys

going in the first round. So to me, if I'm gonna get one of those guys, I know I'm gonna get a good play. We know what kind of guys come out of LSU for the defensive backfield. We know what kind of guys and how smart they are. They played for Nick Saban of Alabama. So if you get one of those two big Fulton or Digs, to me, I'm the Cowboys. I'm walking away with Ceedee Lamb In around one and Fulton or Digs in round two, I'm doing the tap tens. I made my football. That's fact.

Yet most definitely a Newey one thing. One thing before we get too deep up into the show. Hey, you know who started the end of the night last night. That was Joe Burrow starting with the first round, and Lsu ended it with Clyde. It was Hilaire and we had three in between that. So goot tigers. You know what I'm saying, got tigers. I just wanted to make sure I give my guys a shout out, and then you just named two more they might be going in the second round. So that's that's that leads us at

seven for the first two days. Okay, So so stay with me right there, because I was, I was, I was. I was trolling a couple of my my Ohio State buddies. I said, you guys had the first three picks in the draft. Burrow was there, and then when he transferred, Actor Haskins beat him out. So Burrows won Chase Youngs two and then you got Okuda, the Grand Prairie kid go through. I said, how do you guys not win a Nation chapionship with all that time? How does that happen?

How does that happen? With all that talent on that football team and more of it coming and then they ended up having a fourth round another guy going the first round. Four first round picks. Man, Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But but but we have five NEWI don't forget. But you won the championship, you know, but you got all that. Yeah, but but during that time, Ohio State could have won it the year before. I mean they jutted to have all that talent is very surprising to me.

But that was just my my my way of trolling my friend from Ohio State. But no, this year that they weren't good enough to be that lest you knowbody wasn't mean this is the story team, which is why you're seeing so many guys get drafted up there in the in the first round. So yeah, you can take your fift through that, man, you good. Do we have a do we have an account for how many Texas kids were drafted last night? Because I saw a bunch of plane old Texas in Houston's on the on the

top of those screens. You mean from the state of Texas or from from the state from the State of Texas, from the State of Texas or Texas High school. Uh, you know, I don't know, but there was there was a lot of kids. I mean, you know we saw, we saw tc You had two kids go in the first round from Texas, Gladdeney with the Minnesota and then um Uh Ragor Jalen Ragor with the Philadelphia and we know Accuda with third overall. So yeah, there's a truck

load of Texas kids. And I mean this is the about what four years, Yeah, I mean what you saw. I mean, but during you think about the draft, Texas high school footballs producing number one draft pick where you had Kyler Rurry last year you had Baker Mayfield the year before that, and then two years before that you had Miles Garrett from from Arlington. So yeah, Texas is producers some kids in high school football. I mean, it's no doubt that the best state for producing high school

kids right now is a state of Texas. With the Super Bowl MVP this past season was Patrick Mahomes and the year before that, Mahomes won the MVP. So Texas is slaying it with these kids. But what's interesting to me, Danny is the Longhorns didn't have one first round draft pick all that money, not one first round draft pick came out of the Big twelve had grand toll of three first round three first round picks. One was from

Texas Tech, two were from TCU. The acc as A conference only had two first round picks, and TCU produced two of themselves. It's interesting. It's interesting he started breaking this thing down with Texas man. A lot of talent here. Church. You should have been born in Texas, you might have got drafted. You're right, You're right, man, you're right. I just might have just shout out the Pittsburgh man, y'all play some bottle up there. There's something Stephen A. Smith

said that made absolutely zero sense. A Cowboy player this week took the Twitter to do a little trolling and we had a little off air discussion about why this guy should be doing it, and also we gotta break down our thoughts about the last dance Michael George Chicago Bulls episodes one and two air this weekend. Episodes three and four coming up. You're watching the players Lads of Nui, Scrubs, Danny mccraie, Barry Church Ay or on Dallas Cowboys that

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treat you? Please? Last on a Friday, I knew he Scrubs, joined by former Dallas Cowboys defensive backs Buried Church and Danny mccraig. Mccraig, you hit it up earlier, So so let's dive into the Green Bay Packers trade and they go get Jordan Loved the quarterback from Utah State, and they still, apparently this morning, have yet to talk to

Aaron Rodgers about drafting Loved the quarterback. This reminds me so much of the one time Dan Reese when he was coaching the Deborah Broncos, drafted Tommy Maddocks who played at Ldie Bell High School here in Dallas Fort Worth, and John Elway was absolutely ticked off. Tommy Maddox never played any meaningful minutes for the Broncos, and we know Elway ended up leading the Broncos to a Super Bowl. Dan Reeves got fired and we created a very nasty

relationship between the two. How is Aaron Rodgers McCray, in your opinion, gonna handle this? You know, the first thing that I read was he better, he better act. He better not act like, hey, Chris, can you mute? So we had an issue with them with how Aaron Rodgers felt he was treated by Brett Farve. He had that's a perfect opportunity to not be a hypocrite in this situation, So I would be upset that they didn't get him receiver, kind of the same way that Tom Brady felt about

New England. But I mean he has to take in a roll with it, and hopefully in the second round they're able to get him some weapons to help him out, because like like everybody says, all they have is Davante Adams right now, so he needs some weapons. He should be upset, but hopefully they could make them happy in the second, second, and third rounds. Here's the thing I had my question Church, and you can address this. We

now know the way the defensive rules work. You can't touch the quarterback and that's why Tom Brady can play forty three and Drew Brees can play forty one. You can't touch these guys. Aaron Rodgers is thirty seven, but in the league where you can't touch these dudes, he's in my opinion, he's got a lot more football. I thought this team did a disservice to him by not getting a white receiver to help this out. Yeah, I think the Green Bay Packers completely dropped the ball in

this one. I thought was Aaron Rodgers man, I would be pissed. I mean, here you go, like you said, Nui, he's thirty seven years old, but in the league where you can't go you can't hit below the knees. I mean, he still has a lot of ball left. So let's

just say he's thirty one years old right now. They were one game away from winning or going to the Super Bowl, and so Aaron Rodgers is like, look, I'm playing with a bunch of outside of Davonte Adams, I'm playing with a bunch of undrafted free agent receivers, kind of guys that just got thrown thrown into thrown into Green Vegan you off of practice squads or whatever. And they ended up making it to the NFC Championship games.

So they're that close and maybe one or two weapons away from getting into the next level, and they just had to go to a quarterback and they just had to look for the future. They just had to kind of rebuild. As though Aaron Rodgers is fifty years old, he's on his way out. So if I'm Aaron Rodgers, of course had to be extremely mad. But you know what they say, you get him how you or you lose them, how you get them. And that's how he got his job. He came in there and sat behind

Brett far for four years. Even though Bret Farve had a lot of football left in him. And you know the same thing happening to him right now. But if I'm him, like I said, I'm completely pissed off because all I need is a couple of weapons here and there. I'm still in my prime. I can still make any throw in the NFL. So for them to go ahead and look for the future, I just don't understand it. Maybe you know, maybe they just don't get along like

that or something. But I thought, Aaron Rodgers, I'm completely pissed off right now? Did he takes Bill Belichick? After? After that? What you said, did he takes Bill Belichick say? Say you want to go to the Patriots? Now? Oh? If I get out of there. If I'm Aaron Rodgers, the first text meant trade me. Now, y'all want to do this trade now? This is because to me, I thought it was crazy. Can you imagine New England picking up Aaron Rodgers in the trade? Man? That does Bill Belichick?

But really, when you say that, I mean, here's Tom Brady and bron Bronkowski basically telling you we left New England because we weren't having fun anymore. You have to do it Bill Belichick's way. What did we just see with Aaron Rodgers. He basically ran off by McCarthy because he wanted to do it his way. So I don't see Air Rodgers won any parts of that. Aaron wants

to do it his way. I just believe based on what I saw with John Elway, I think we're gonna have the same situation where there's going to become a bigger rift between the coach and the GM with the quarterback, and the quarterback will do all he can to outlast Jordan Love and make this situation very uncomfortable, which if

you're the Cowboys, you're all good with that. Want to hit another topic here, because we got a lot that I want to get squeeze into you before we end the show to the Steven A. Smith is on ESPN today, and then we know steven A. Smith takes this great joy and trying to ride the Dallas Cowboys and their fans.

And he was talking about CD Lamb and he said for the second time, all right, he said this months before, in the past six months, but he said that the Cowboys had Terrence Williams as a wide receiver in their other team. If you want to be chief trolling, can you at least get a roster. I mean millions of dollars over the ESPN and if you want to sit here and ride your team that you can't stand at

least though, who's on the dog on a team A Craig. Yeah, that that doesn't make too much sense, especially how much he talks about him throughout the season. He is he shouldn't. Nobody has said Terence Williams name in the last two years. Do we have we have Connor Williams on the team. I don't think we have another? Like, what what are we talking about? He made too much money for that. That's that's that's a mistake that he shouldn't be making.

But that just shows he's just trolling. He doesn't he's not really paying attention to what's going on here. That's why when we start winning Super Bowls, he'll be upset. He won't be speaking Terence Williams names again. I don't know. Maybe he was saying outside of Amari Cooper, you know, wide receiver corps non existent. I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't know. So that's that's what that's

what you took from it. I'm just I'm just taking what Steve and A's putting down man, none existed, Okay, all right, I saw I saw the Twitter clips. No I didn't. I didn't see it. I didn't see it either. But he's known for trolling the Cowboys, and I thought for sure he was just saying a outside of Pooper, it's not existing, even though Gallup's a beast him open that. Maybe that's what he was saying. All right, stay with trolling.

So Rob Bronkowski gets traded from New England to the Tampa Bay Buccketeers so he could play with his buddy Tom Brady. They won a couple of Super Bowls together, and Tank Lawrence sent out a trolling tweet towards Juliet Edam and the comments that tamp got on there were they were they were split down the middle almost. There were some who were laughing with Tank saying yeah, and then there's a bunch of people getting on Tank lords saying you shouldn't be troll a guy who's won three

Super Bowls you only have five sacks. Uh. It got it got out there, and my immediate my immediate thought process and I text you guys with it is it's almost a lack of self awareness. Is can anyone on the Cowboys really try and troll somebody from the Patriots. Considering the kind of success that a guy like Julian Edelman who was as a Super Bowl MVP winner, can't you even say that, I gotta be opposite of you on this, Lannuis. It's just a joke. I mean, thank Lawrence.

He had five sacks last year, but that doesn't discredit his body of work. Like the team played how they played last year. He had five sacks, but that didn't that didn't define how well he played as a defensive player. And also the years before that. Can we listen to how many sacks he had in the previous two years when he was playing on franchise tax, so that one year doesn't this like this credit him as a as a player. And he was just joking it. It was a It was funny, It was a good joke. It

was something that he probably saw somebody else posting. He just wanted to make his own. I don't think it was anything personal, and I think it was funny too. Man, everybody's leaving and Julian Edelman was there, but he doesn't know what's going on with the Patriots. So I said that said the comics were split. I mean, Danny you saying, hey, it's fun, it's all good. There was there. There were half the people and maybe even a little sixty percent.

We're saying they were with you. All right, Church, where do you stand on this? I think I'm gonna ride with you on this one. Knew he um, you know, I think the law mean he jokes a lotting plays a lot and all that good stuff. But I mean, coming out to season he had last year, I mean he's out here trolling, you know, Edelman saying, you know, you know, last one left you, you ain't got nothing there, And you know he's sitting there like, man, you ain't

got no sacks last year. But he didn't say nothing that. He kind of took the high He kind of took the high road on this one. So I'm gonna go with new until he comes back and and maybe gets his sack plot up a little bit. I mean, maybe he should relax on the trolling, but I don't know. I'm just playing Devil's advocate here, so so so listen, So if you have an off season for a whole year, you can't say anything to anybody. You can't even make

a joke, even even if you were a Pro Bowl player. Yeah, I mean, what what do you mean you can't You can't. So this this is like when the fans on Twitter go and they say, like, you post a picture of you at astro World or something, They like, what are you doing an astero? Are you're supposed to be focusing on football? Y'all suck last year? What I gotta I gotta regular life. I can't just do football twenty seven.

I can't make a joke. I can't like this is a banner between two NFL players, Like, we can't joke now because because I had an all season sack wise, that's not right. I don't think the laws should have to be quiet for a full year because he had five sex this year, but almost twenty for the previous two. You say that you know this, this this what you just said, Danny makes me think about about Michael Jordan and having watched that that last dance and then I've

been diamond into the books. Um, David Halberstam's book Playing for keeps something Michael Jordan in the life by rolling lazy and be on Michael Jordan's the and we now know Michael owns the Charlotte Hornets, and he was talking with one of the Golden State Warriors guys, and you're the Warriors set that record for wins, and Michael immediately just cuts down the owner says, who cares how many

games you want if you didn't win the championship. I mean talking about Golden States had a pretty good run. But that was his thing. If you know what, man, you didn't win, and if you're not winning, I don't care what you've done. And that makes you think about take. Hey, if you want to call someone out, you're calling out somebody who want If you're not out here winning, do you really really need to be doing that in today's age? Probably? Not winning does not make you off limits to jokes.

You can win all you want to and still get jumped on. That don't save you because you want a super Bowl. And now if you want to start talking about like his play and calling them, I'm sorry, like talking about his performance. Yeah, that that's a little difference. But it was. It was a joke with his friends leaving them up up in New England. It was it was just a joke. It's just fun. I don't like I said it doesn't save you from from being joked on.

Just because you're a super Bowl champion. Tom Brady can get talked about, Grow can get talked about. Anybody they want a super Bowl can't get talked about. All right, all right, uh Church, I know you watched the Last Dance. What was your take on and is there anything that you saw from that that you relate to your days playing in the NFL um I mean the story about I'm not gonna say no names, but the story about you know, him walking in in the hotel rooms and

seeing stuff like, I mean, it gets real. But I will say this, man, Scottie Pippman, you tripping for taking that seven year twelve men? What was it? Seven years, eighteen million? You tripping out there? First of all, was like one of the top picks in that draft that year. And then I know you're talking about uscurity and you want to look after your grandparents and all that stuff. But man, you could have had security. You could have got a two year deal. Let me get a two

year for five millions or something like that. I mean, the way the way that contract was was negotiated was terrible. And his agent, his agent should have been fired immediately after that. I mean, I was that was a terrible contract. Terrible contract. Can I defend the agent? Can I defend the agent? So the agent, Jimmy Sex his agent at the time and he also represented Horrors Brand, was Jimmy Sexton Dona Memphis. So Sexton today is one of the most powerful agents in the game. He has he has

a lot of a lot of coaches. But Sexton told him not to sign the deal. Sex is like, this isn't a good deal. But Scotty, having grown up poor in Arkansas and wanting to go ahead and take care of his family, decided I'll take the security of eighteen million. Because I want to say put this also into context, Scotty had some back issues. So in his mind, if I'll take this eighteen million guaranteed and no matter what,

I'll take it. And I'm not trying to ride on Scottie, but he's trying to present it in the situation of when you haven't come from a lot, you see what's in front of you right now. I talked to you guys before about that Muhammad Ali book that I read that Don King put fifty thousand dollars in cash in front of Ali. He owed him over one point seven million dollars. He sent a dude over with a cash, a big old cash thing, a fifty grand, and he had he said, and he said at a notary public, hey, look,

take this fifty grand right now. And you don't and I don't you don't you know, I don't owe you anything else. Ali took the cash right there. For Scottie Pippen. He couldn't see the future. He didn't see what the NBA is now. He saw eighteen million and security for him and everybody he loved. So I don't I don't blame the agent there. If that's what the kids saw and that's what he wanted, can you blame the agent, I blame I blame management offering him that that contract

one and in two. I've seen Shannon Sharpe say something about it about Michael Jordan, and I gotta agree with him on this. With the one thing you don't do as a as a player in any sport is count another man's money. If Scottie pipping was upset in the final year of his deal and he was gonna do everything he could to get paid, nobody has a right to speak on that. No matter how bad you want to win. This dude wants to get paid, just like

the rest of the people on his team. You know, Michael Jordan will not then called him selfish at some point in time. You gotta be selfish. You've been playing for crumbs for the last six years. Let the man be selfish to try to make his money. If it don't work, it don't work. But don't don't count. Don't count another man's bread. And at the time, Michael Jordan was making thirty three million dollars a season and he over there talking about Scotty being selfish. Now, look, look,

look looking to see this has coming. This is you know, you know I'm a historian on this. They weren't paying Micha a whole lot of money either. There was a time when David Fault was trying to get four million from Jerry riiserf and he said, I'll never pay Michael four million. And even starting at three, Michael signed a deal long term and which he wasn't making as much.

It's when Michael came back that he was able to really cash in and get thirty three and thirty six million dollars those last couple of years that he played, but this was before Pippen's deal had run out, so he got to put some of this stuff in the context of what it was. But ultimately, the thing I took from the last dance of Scottie Pippen and even Michael Jordan I equited to what we just saw it with Lala Collins. If Lala Collins played out the season

and went into the open market, he'd have killed it. Okay, he had a great year, he'd have killed it. But Collins had told me the year before he loved it here and did not want to leave his family from Louisiana. He likes living in Dallas for or and he took less money. So at the end of the day, it's up to what guys really want. And if a guy chooses security the way Scottie Pippen did, a guy chooses

security and happiness the way Alala Collins did. I don't want to ever blame them, and I don't want to say management is bad to do it, because if they you know, they don't have to sign to do there's no gun anybody's head here. Guys do what they want to do. It's I mean, it's not a literal it's not a literal gun, but I mean, you got a

bad bancker. You gotta take care of your family. People can pray on that and offer you something that they know that you that you're worth more, but they can offer you less because they know the situation that you're in. So it's not literally a gun, but that could be how Scottie pippenfelt. That's true, true, Mike, don't don't speak on don't speak Scottie Pippen's bread man in his final year. Mike, you said Michael was making thirty three re up Scottie

Pippen at least good to give him a bonus or something. God, y'all couldn't give him nothing getting no money, Yeah, and sent a workout bonus or some happy out there and get these assists. You know, you're writ in terms of what bulls management could have stepped in in any time and said, hey, let's redo these things. But that's just not how they operated, which is why you saw Horace grantly, if you saw John Packson leaving. That's the way. That's

the way it is. And it's interesting because you know, we talk about, you know, the money for those guys and push this back if you start looking at Dak Prescott right now, how many fans out there are mad at Dak Prescott because he has a sign of the young People call it Dak grievy. You know, it's just interesting when you think about how people have sympathy for Scottie Pippin not getting up and now people are mad at Dak Prescott. Because football contracts are not guaranteed at all,

you do definitely need to get what you can. At Church, you were in this kind of situation here the Cowboys. You liked it here, but you knew on the open market you get more money. And Jacksonville gave you a contract of security that you had to take and you took. Yeah, I had to take that one. I mean the Cowboys were offering significantly less than Jacksonville. And you know I had, like you said, he had to go. You had to look out for your family and get what you need.

I mean, you know, the grass is not always greener. Like like I learned when I went to Jacksonville. There was just two different type of organizations. Cowboys are way up here and Jacksonville was just down here. But they did pay me, and um, you know, they had had to do what I had to do for my family. But looking back, if it was even close, even like one or two million close, I would have definitely stayed in Dallas. I mean, the organizations is that much better.

But like you said at the time, I wanted money and I need died security for my family. So Church, stay with me. What is going on where the owner's son con is arguing Yannick Douay the defensive end for the Jags here, and yeah, here's the guy who wants to be traded and they're gonna hold on to him. So you're gonna possibly keep a guy in the building who does not want to be here, who thinks that the organization is bad. How does a locker room operate

in that fashion? Well, you know, I was in the locker room with those guys, and I know him finally and in gackway is he's a very fiery he's a very competitive type of Guy's a young guy as well, so when he was I don't think he was doing itself any favors by arguing with the son, the owner's son on social media like that in front of everybody. M the dynamic between the Sun and the team is basically his son or Shad Khan's son kind of kind of goes into locker room more and talks to the

players more than the actual owner does. So that's why everybody feels like, you know, they can talk to the to the owner like that. But he made a good point during that argument in Twitter, was saying to two in Gockway that you're doing all this band turn with me back and forth on Twitter, and you're talking about you want to be traded, but you're not doing yourself

any favorite don't. And I think he was right about that one, because teams are gonna look at that like, do we really want to bring this guy in trade, um, you know possibly hot picks or you know, conversation for in Gockway when he's gonna come up here him and be that type of player. So I don't think he did hisself any type of favors by arguing with Shad Khan's son. But as we know, that guy wants to get out of there, and sometimes players do whatever they

can to get out of a sticky situation. It's gonna be interesting, all right. So rounds two and three of the draft are today, So with five minutes left here and the players line. So let's go back to the top of recap what we talked about here, the Cowboys go get Cede Lamb at seventeen. I was all about the defense, but I do not blame the Cowboys for taking a guy they had ranked number six on their board at seventeen. So now the Cowboys had a tremendous offense.

You've got Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, Ceedee Lamb, you've got tight end Blake Jarwin, You've got Ezekiel Elliott, and Dak Prescott is going to resign you. There's no excuse for this team not to be putting up thirty to thirty two points per football game. But now my concern is defense, and I just feel like rounds two and three, they've got to go for a corner and they've got to

add enough safety. They've got to add a defensive line that those three positions, the names have to be called the fifty, fifty one, and eighty two for those picks there. All right, that's my piece on that. McRae. You start

and tell me your piece. Yeah, I'm most definitely U surprised that at seventeen for receiver, But like you said, the guy is one of those talents where Jerry Jones in the past and said he would never pass up on a guy like that if they failed to him and it and it happened, So you gotta take that guy, especially since all these corners and safeties that you thought we're going in the first round are still available. Like

so it essentially it worked out perfect for you. You got to pick it a letter, hopefully with fooling digs and if not, then you still got delp it. So I don't see if picking defense in the second round, I don't think there's a player that you want that you would miss on that that would hurt you in this in this draft, out of those three players, either one that you pick will make an impact on your team.

So go defense, Go dbs, find some guys to cover of these receivers that will be coming at you this season, and uh and and continue that throughout the draft. Just tight end up that defense because you're gonna need it. You're gonna be scoring some points, You're gonna be you're gonna need to be able to stop some people as well. Yeah, I agree with you on it. Yeah, I agree with well both of you guys on that one. Um, I

was surprised eyes when they picked CD Lamb. But if he was their top, top, you know, rated guy and your sixth rated guy on their draft board, I mean, you can't pass up on a guy. So hopefully he's he's out there, he's going to be able to go out there and perform at a high level and exceed all their expectations. But I feel like for the rest of the draft they're gonna have to go defensively, corner especially, I think as a position of need that they have to.

And like mccraige said, he made a great point. They went and got CD Lamb, but a lot of the high rated corners and safeties didn't go in the in the first round, so they still have their pick of the letter in the second round. So I agree with

them on that. But I feel as though they have to go defense because they don't want to be like the twenty eighteen Kansas City Chiefs who had all the firepower in the world and we're scoring points over everybody, but couldn't stop it or couldn't you know, stop a cold or anything like that, and that ended up hurting them in an ANC championship when they couldn't stop Tom Brady, you know, on three straight third and tens, and he ended up pulling off a comeback and winning the game.

So I think they gotta address this defense for the second half of the NFL draft, and I think, you know, hopefully Cede Lamb's able to produce the way they feel like he should. That that that championship game that they lost the Patriots, I mean, if you don't jump outside and you win the game, I mean, so it was a mistake they made. But but going back on what you said, the next year, they bring a d board, they bring a Tyron Matthew, they do fix the defense.

So Dame Brugler has the Cowboys taking Trayvon Diggs fifty one. M Lanzer Line of NFL dot Com has Cowboys going for edge rusher from Notre Dame Julian Arklis. But on Dame Brugler's list here because when I looked at them, I said, okay, so if he takes if the Cowboys

take Diggs, who are they passing up? And the players they had passing up would be Grant Delpit, the safety from LSU, Christian Fulton, the quarner from from LSU, Ross Blacklock, the defensive tackle from TCU and Kyle Dugger the safety from Lenore Ryne, the small school out of North Carolina.

So if that's the case and these players are all here, the Cowboys could find themselves like they were in the first round, taking possibly, you know, just the highest player they have left on their board, but I definitely think

it's got to be a defensive backfield player. The cow was only one guy under contract after next year and that that's uh Anthony Brown here, So I feel real good that the cow was gonna be able to walk out around one and two with a corner and an explosive wide receiver with CD LAMB to me, if they do that at the first two robs good and then a round three go defense get If they do that, fellas, I'll be doing a tablets record the foot before we get out, Before before we go, man, I just gotta

bring it up because it's the players louds and if these guys were in the locker room, they will be getting talked about the CD lab with the bat phone getting snatched out of his hand on national TV what's a big deal? And the girlfriend getting pushed off the lab. Please listen, significant others man, just make sure you do the right thing. Let the guys have a moment. Don't don't try to do that crazy, and do not become the spotlight of the NFL draft. And learn from the

people before you. Learn from the people before you. Man, what she said, she said that the agent was calling and she was going to do she was trying to be a good girlfriend and answered the phone for him, and then he needed to calm down. So that was her, That was her, you know, thought process. So you know,

there you go. But yeah, okay, all right, you and I know these girlfriends, uh, they true to do live up to the end of the college girlfriends truly do look to the NFL, not them all when these dudents get to do it. Let me tell you something. If that agent was calling he wanted her to answer, he would have handed on the phone exactly go on. She thought she was slick. Let me grab this phone real quick. And he sees the side. He looked like crazy. The

mom too. On the other side, we're looking at her like, oh, she's messed up. If you go again. When I saw that video, ibly thought of ludicrous. The saw roll out of the MCS get out by stay a day because man just took over the whole draft. That's what I remember about the draft as far as visually yesterday was these girlfriends over stepping, over stepping. You know what. I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna say nothing. I'm not gonna say. I don't, I don't. It was fun. People

have talked about it on the Cowboy flag station. What o't fire through the fan? They asked him about it. They had fun with him all, I mean, all across social media, and that's why the girlfriend responded, so, um, we'll see I mean, you know, and and hopefully whenever we get back to the normal, well we'll hopefully be able to go, you know, talk to talk to CD in the locker room and have a fun laugh about

it because you know that's you right. He's definitely gonna be rased a little bit about it about his teammates in the backroom. I just don't touch us balls with this then, yeah, yeah, all right, fellas Hey, Um, fun stuff is always. Um. Let's let's hope they bring in some DVS and some d line and use the rest of this draft, in my opinion, to attack the needs because the Cowboys having all three levels of the defense. This needs to be a defensive draft the rest of

the way. So let's see what they do. We'll talk about this next week. Danny Mccraigberry, Church, Chris being everybody who's been a part of this player's lives. We appreciate you. Thank you so much for checking us out here. We will do it again next Friday right here, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Er