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and boys. We've been waiting all day for Wednesday afternoon football. This was supposed to be a game played Thanksgiving nights between the Steelers and Ravens, but COVID has moved it all the way to Wednesday. So if you are local in the Dallas foot Worth area, it is on the NBC five. So I will I will be on, gentleman after we get done with this broadcast, give myself ready to go on down to get ready to be on TV because when the game ends then I gotta go

get on channel five here. So before they have kickoff, all right between the Ravens and Seelers. Uh Noster Damas, can you make your prediction? Let let's go ahead, get out the way, because I want the game to start to try changed, all right, I'm man, before we before we start this kickoff, you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna go ahead and make a prediction at the Ravens pull this one out even with all their starters going.

They got RG three at quarterback. And for those who don't know, I mean last time RG fee RG three was on the football field, it was against US Pittsburgh Steelers and he did hand them an el. So for me, I'm gonna say they overlook Baltimore, but Baltimore gets the dub twenty four thirteen d mat you know what you're gonna Yeah, I'm going to totally opposite of this man, Church.

I'm going thirty one to ten. I know what RG three is and that lucky stuff that he came out with last time, it's not happening this time, Church, and they miss it. They miss it more. They're missing more people than just Lamar Jackson, so RG three won't be the only replacement in there. So I'm giving this on the Pittsburgh. They stay undefeated and hopefully Claypool has a big game for my work fantasy league. So thirty one to ten Steelers. All right, you know how this goes?

You know, I'm going you know how this goes? We do these Hey, hey, okay, ain't been working out too far. I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't do it, NEWI I wouldn't do it. Let me know. I'm going to Steelers twenty seven to nine in this game. And by the way, in case you why are you guys talking about Ravens and Steels. Well, the next opponent for the

Dallas Cowboys will be this Baltimore Ravens team. That game was supposed to be tomorrow, but because of all the COVID restrictions in the game getting pushed back from Thanksgiving to Sunday to Monday to Tuesday to that Wednesday, that Cowboys Ravens game will not happen tomorrow. It will happen Tuesday, December eight. Now here's a couple of things about this football game. That one reason why church I went ahead

and took the Steelers. The Ravens are going to start a brand new center who's making his first start because the other dudes on COVID. And then they've got their right guard making his second NFL start. So RG three is getting ready to come up here with some dudes who are not used to playing NFL games, and we're starting NFL games that we're talking about having to go against arguably the top defense in the National Football League. The Steelers are at home. The Steelers are ten and old.

The Steelers are upset. They're upset at the Ravens for the outbreak that happened with their organization. They're upset at the NFL because they've had to keep on pushing this game back. And I don't think this is going to be a real crisp game because both teams haven't played

in a while. But I did go adding, say twenty seven nine, because I just think it's gonna be a bunch of field goals for the Ravens, and I do think um Pittsburgh will just kind of wear them down and be able to get get get a couple of touchdowns on the board here. And I just think it's gonna be a tough, tough day for the Ravens. RG three, I am. I feel for him, man, I feel for him. I mean, this is a tough way to get put into this. By the way, the Steelers are gonna have

Marquis Bounty. They're starting center. He's on the COVID nineteen lists, so I'll be interested to see how that exchange goes for Ben Roethlisberger and the center. Expected a lot of shotgun out of the Steelers. But it's gonna be a tough game, man. It could be a tough game. So go ahead, man, tell me this. So so just you know, according to what Jerry Jones said yesterday, you know, since uh, you know, he didn't feel sorry for for Denver because we had our quarterback that we drafted in there, So

he won't feel sorry for for RG three either. That I guess that's the same as as Denver having their their wide receiver going out there and play quarterback as well. He wouldn't call this equal, And it is absolutely and I'm gonna say this, it's not equal. It wasn't equal when uh when when we put the Nuci out there to the to the Broncos. And it is not equal when the Ravens put RG three out there. This is this is totally different. Come on, Jerry, and knew it.

From now on, when you refer to the game coming up next week, you say this is Brian versus the Cowboys. All right, just just make sure this is Brian versus the Dallas Cowboys, not the Ravens. There's Brian and the Ravens versus the Dallas Cowboys. I'll take that. I'll take that as well. Can I stay with you on Dez right here? Um, the Ravens do not have their top receiver really sneed so, um, I'm looking for a RG three Dez Ryan connection because RG three has been their

backup quarterback and desn bit the backup receiver. So um, you know, I'm expecting these guys that have a little bit of chemistry because you know, a working relationship. So I'm looking for Des Bryan today to try and catch a couple of passes here, just because they're gonna need some experience out there. So so I think that's Bryan Church checked this up here. He's not called called out to that. Yeah. Now he's starting he's starting to get

on that X train. Huh yea, they do Church, listen, listen, listen to me. The Ravens do have their number one receiver, all right, he's playing. He's wearing number eighty eight is Das Bryant. They got their number on receiver. The other day. They got the best guy. They can make the biggest plays out there, and he's the number one guy. He's better than Willie Sneed. So you know, I'm taking this to at least have a big day of the luve today he's been He's better than Willie Sneed by far.

I mean Willie Sneed. Dad's even being out of football two years with a torn achill leeds. I mean, Willy Sneed is still not even in the same realm as him. So look for me to this game. I think this is where we're gonna see Dad's kind of take over that wide receiver room. If they give him fifty fifty jump balls. I mean I don't I still don't think anybody in the league can jump with him. So I think this is the game Dads takes over that receiver room. Man,

at least this game, not Dallas game. Is that your prediction? Is that your nose to Thomas prediction. I'll tell you. I'll tell you this neuis if if Das gets in the end zone this game, you got a rocket eighty eight jersey next time we get on the show. Is that is that is that something you would you would buy into neuis you go send it to me, Go send me the eighty eight jersey. I'll get you one of them. I'll get you one of them, lick them stickles. I ain't gonna get you the authentic you know you

stick the jersey. You know what, I'll get you one of those. But yeah, I'll make it happen if you get Is that a handshake agreement, my friend? If you if you send it to me, I will put it on h on. But but I've only got the rad scoring nine points to that. I've only got him scoring nine points to that, gentleman. I just think it's gonna be a real tough time for this Baltimore offense. To that, I think des Brito catch some passes. But in terms of trying to score against this team, but I think

it's gonna be tough. I mean, they're down. You know you don't have Mark andrews Um he's out. You you got your running back issues so and oh, by the way, you have a Mark. So yeah, it's gonna be tough. Did you got you got him putting up with twenty four points? Okay, nostre domas, I don't know, man, y'all sleeping on on RG three out here man and Gus Edwards is not a scrub back there. I know they you know, they're missing JK. Dobbins and they're missing mark Ingram,

But Gus Edwards literally eats on the Steelers. I think he averages like eighty yards on the ground every time he goes against this team. So look, I know they're missing some some dynamic pieces. They don't got the tight end Mark Andrews and I mentioned to other people out there, but I think with RG three in the game, it at least gives them a better opportunity to pass the ball. I know he's no Lamar Jackson with that dual threat ability, but I think he presents a more accurate pastor and

we might see more to the receivers in this game plan. Okay, so you guys have played the league and you've dealt with bye weeks, and but what about the fact that these teams haven't had a whole lot of practice. I think the Steelers have been able to practice two times um since last Wednesday. I mean this has been an issue where because of the COVID outbreak, these teams haven't been able to just get out here and keep their normal routine in practice, and it's cold, by the way,

they're talking about. What's the temperature they're talking about here, they're saying, with the wind chill, there's gonna be twenty eight degrees, you know, Wendy out there. So I mean, these are these are this is a very interesting thing that we're watching here. This is very abnormal of what we see in the national football You've played in the league, guys, so you want to tell me what's what is it like when your routine is broken up this much? Mccraig,

I mean, listen for them. The good thing about it is these are division opponents, and these guys know each other. Their offenses have not changed. Ben Roethlisberger is still running the same offense, running running every once in a while, try to get James kind of started and then then go to empty set. And the Ravens are still going to run the same offense that they had with Lamar Jackson running those tight end heavy sets and and using

a lot of play action. And RG three can still run, so I'm sure you'll get them out there on the edge as well. So that's a good thing for them, and stuff that they've seen already, even though they haven't been able to be on the practice field. But it's it's it's it's a little strange when your routine gets broken. And this is probably the most difficult time that they that they've been through because they are supposed to play, then they're not playing and they don't know when they're

gonna play. Then they move in a day back. So I think it's a little difficult than it threw them off a little bit, But it's a division game. These guys they know how to play in their professional so I think I think it'll be a little bit more crisp than than you expect. Yeah, McCray, you're right about that. I mean, these two are division opponents. They know each other like the back of each other's hands, so I don't really see you know, practice time being that influential

on this game. But I will say this, I mean, these are two veteran teams and it ain't like you know, these guys are led by you know, rookies or guys in their second or third year. These guys are led by guys that's been in the league for at least five years. So I think they have a routine down pat even if it gets kind of screwy with the schedule. I think they understand how to warm up for each game and how to get ready for each game, because

these these are better in guys. And so for me, like mccraize said, I don't see it being asked sloppy as kind of you know, penalties all over the place. But I do see this game having a lot of big plays. I mean defensively, you haven't been practicing, you haven't really broke down the scheme yet, so there could be a lot of big plays in this one. And

I think that's where RG three will shine. And when you say, wait, Church, I'm sorry when and when you say I do see do you mean like literally since you're sitting there watching the game or or is it it's something that you how that's how we're doing that. Friends like y'all who needs and you keep saying I see going, yeah, I'm doing my job. Over here. You see the toys under there, you see what's going on at the church. I'm looking at it right over here. Okay,

I got it all right over here. Three gets ready to take his first snap. And by the way, Mike McCarthy said, it is press conference this morning that the cow Boys are going to watch the game as a team, so that that's what they're doing right now, and said they're gonna break it up in a position group. But at the star right now, the Cowboy players are watching this game since it is their next opponent. Just watching

RG three, by the way, completed the past. You guys were in the league when this young man got there? Are you surprised that the former Highsto Trophy winner from Baylor did not capitalize more off his Rookie of the Year campaign and become a player like a Deshaun Watson, a Dak Prescott, or even a Lamar Jackson in the league. Look, you know, I'm gonna say this, I'm not surprised. And there's two reasons why I'm not surprised. One is, yes, he had a phenomenal rookie season. We were all witnessed

to that. You know, we played him twice and I think that was the only time the Redskins swept the Dolls Cowboys and I was unfortunately a part of that. But he had a phenomenal rookie season. But the thing that kind of hampered him and the thing that I think brought him back down to Earth was one he had injury. He tore his knee up in that playoff game too. I just think the coaches in the NFL,

they're too good. The defensive coordinators are too good. They had that year, they had that off season to kind of get the tape built up on him and understand what he does well and what he struggles with, and they were able to take advantage of that. Compounded with the injury that I think he never really got a chance to fully heal from before he went back out there. I just think it was just a compound of that and it kind of brought his game back down to Earth. Yeah.

Same here. I think it's similar to what they're doing right now currently with Lamar Jackson. It's a system that they're running. You know, remember he had Alphred Morris who also had a crazy year that year as far as statistics, and they would run that play action and then hit that bang gate right behind you and they would do that all game because the safeties and linebackers had to respect the run. So he got a lot out of

that system. And then you would hear a lot of people telling RG through hey man, you gotta learn how to slide you gotta not take those hits. And every game you would see it and you'd be like, bro, you're not listening, and you know, and they caught up to him. And once you see him out there with that knee braids, he hadn't been in the same sense in church once again, another time that the Cowboys had

been swept by the Redskins was win. By the way, do you remember who the offensive coordinator was RG three's rookie year in Washington. Do you remember who you want? Was that Shannahan? It was his son. It was his son was coordinator and Big Mike was the was the head coach, and they won the divisions, the head coaching Bookie of the Year and Alfred Morris had that outstanding

rookie season and that was that clear. I will always remember that final game Cowboys against Washington and Rob Ryan is the defensive coordinator, remember Brady Pepina being out there the Cowboy defense. That defense was decimated and kept the Cowboys in the game. It was, I thought, a fantastic

defensive effort for shorthanded Cowboys team. And here it was the game came down to the offense needing to get down the field and make a play and rollo through and I think it was almost triple coverage and ended up getting picked off and Washington won the division. Yeah, it was a rough man, I was a rough pass right here. That whole year, Man was tough. But we bounced back. We did bounce back eventually. But man, that was a tough year. That in twenty fifteen were the

two worst years in Cowboys history. To me, I don't church. I don't know which one, which one? What's worse, all right? Being totally out of it or losing the last game of the season to go to the playoffs three years straight. Like, I don't know. I think the worst of me was being so close and not being able to get there. Since I've never actually got to the tournament. See, to me, it's opposite, man. It's that when you know you don't have a chance, like twenty fifteen, it makes it hard

to get up and go to work each day. I mean, you get up, you get out the bed, your feet start hurting, and you're like, man, why am I doing this? Man? We don't have no chance to succeed this year. Each and every time you knew going out, dear, yeah, we might survive for the first half, but they gonna eventually blow us out. I mean, it just made it hard to come to work, man. So I gotta say, when you're out of it, it's tough. It's tough. I'm with you, mccraye.

Three straight years, the final game, you'll lose each one of them, and all of them in just heartbreaking fashion where you were right there the game was winnable. It wasn't like that. That's the part that I just look at. I just say, my goodness, gracious, well, you know what, why can't the Cowboys win these games? And that Washington game, I just go back to that when I just remember you were hoping that the defense could just put you in the position, and the defense did its part and

it was the offense that failed. And Tony throwing the interception. That was the thing. I was like, wow, you know, you you know, because so many times we saw Tony get it done, and to see him not get it done and throw the pick, I was I was literally shocked.

I just remember being shocked, like wow. And that was one of those games too where they flexed into it, so NBC got the game so that man, I was working, and so you know, they and everybody the TV station, We're all ready to do you know, the post game coverage, and you just deflated. You're like, wow, man, it was right there. So I'm with you. I'm with you with prey because all three of those games, NBC flexed into you know, they put it on the prime time game

on TV, and the Cowboys couldn't get it done. That was that was a part of what also, in my opinion, led to that negativity for Jason Garrett. He said, different, if Jason Garrett wins one, if or two or even three of these NFC championship games, he's looked at differently and he's probably the head coach now, but he should bank though he listened. We did lose to every other

team in the division those three years. But like Church says, it was two seasons where he shook back and outside of them changed having to change the rule with Dad's actually catching that ball. We don't know what happens with Jason Gerett and how far they go into that playoff run. So I mean, you know, you gotta pick and choose.

The Church is still on the kool a, but I'm still like, hey, you know it was it was bad, but we were competitive a lot of a lot of the seasons that JG was here, opposite of what we

look like now. All right, let's not go down that negative train right here, with that negativity when we come back, I want to dive into the chess match that Mike Nolan is going to have to deal with with Lamar Jackson, the Ravens quarterback who's not playing today against the Steelers but should be there in Baltimore when the Cowboys come to town to face them on Tuesday. Let's dive into that next right here, players Lass Box about Hotels dot

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two of my boys. You know, I ain't even got nothing to say to y'all. Right now, Mann, I tell you, okay, so so so h mccraig, you have some props for for those two jobs, Centre. Go ahead, Oh yeah, man, listen to the guy. Listen. I'm gonna give him some props for coming back from last year being last and our Fantasy Football division and getting the last place trophy to this year. If he wins, he's in the playoff race.

And he started off bad. It was a few he said he's done with this, he's not playing for fantasy football anymore. And he stuck with it and he came back. He won a few games straight, and now he's in the race. So I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you the most Improved trophy for this year. You can count on on receiving that, the most improved player for this year. I appreciate that, Commissioner, you know, you know,

I came from a long way. But what you alluded to tell the people was last year was an auto pick. You know, I had missed the draft and it was an auto pick. So my team was kind of trash last year, you know, and it was my fault. I'm missed the draft, you know, and so it was my fault. But this year, the GM skills came to play and I'm one game out of the playoffs. So let's make it happen. Church, Church. You wasn't the only team the auto pick, but you was the only team to come

in last last season. All right, So we're not gonna blame the auto picking. We ain't talking about last year. We ain't talking about last We talking about this. Okay, to turn up the drake started from the bottom. Now, yeah, exactly right, we had Now, Hey, man, I feel bad for you. Man. You had you had to face Tyreek Hill last year. I mean any last week. Anybody who had to face Tyree Hill and fantasy football in one you must have one heck of a team because I

have yet to see a performance like that in fantasy football. Took. I mean, that was just ridiculous what Tyree Hill did putting up numbers there. I mean, Kansas City is crazy and crazy good and Todd Bowls was crazy. To leave Tyree Hill one on what? What? What are you doing? What what game plan? What thought? Proce said, Hey, we'll just leave Hill one on one. I don't get it, man,

I don't get that. Yeah, the mistakes were made. And then if you're if you're Carlton Davis, man how do you get back in the group chat with your boy's like, I know, he was getting flamed up left and right, Like, man, how you let him burn you like that? I mean it was bad. And then and then you know, whoever did that game, ESPN, ABC, whoever it was, they're dirty for just zooming in on him after every touchdown. The man's on the bench just head down just like and

I don't even want to play football no more. And they just capt zooming in on them like it was. It was brutal. It was a brutal day for my boy. Hey, New I know you don't want to go down to negativity rabbit hole, but goodness, as I as I listened to that in that stat line from Tyrek Hill, I just cannot. I have to mention Calvin Johnson didn't go for three hundred yards on us when we wore Man, I know you ain't. I know you ain't just bringing

that up. You know what you've been. You've been on side of the day, you know, but your day coming, your day is I was I can't believe you. Church. I was there, No, I was there. D and b Car were harad that day against Calvin Johnson. The man with thirty on us and the church but Church, but Church that that wasn't one on one though we got beat up. They had d Ware trying to drop in the deep curl and cover two and Calvin Johnson was running twenty yard then rounds he caught like eight of them.

It wasn't one on them one. I'm just saying when you look at the stat line, Calvin Johnson went off on us. The man was unstoppable. I mean, like, if you this man has he has nightmares for me because not only did he have that three hundred and thirty yard game against us, it was also I think a game on Thanksgiving where this man just went up and just mossed all three of us in the back of the day and then ESPN going gonna put it on

there like Happy Birthday Megatron. It has a host to him, just you know, just mossing us in the back of the end zone. Man. So disrespectful man, But it's all good because when I when I see the man who runs ESPN, I got some words for you. Man. Changed that photo. Change the photo. Man. That thing was eight years ago. Man, Wow, mccraig, he was just stabbing him all up to day mccraig. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't.

Churt Listen. Church was not guarding Calvin Johnson's like like Carlton Davis was like, so it wasn't a shot at you, Church. It was just me remembering like because Louis like, man, Tyreek Hill, I haven't seen the performance like that, and I was like, oh I have, and I just bringing up wounds, man, just picking up the wounds man. That's crazy. By the way, the Steelers inside the red zone decided to go for it on fourth down. Ben Roethlisberger with no play back pedaling, just throws it up in the

end zone and the Ravens pick it off. So it's a zero zero football game right now. As Mike Tomlin decided to go ahead and roll the dikes instead of going ahead and kicking a field goal, which which, guys, this is a thing for me right now in the National Football League that I don't understand. Call me old school, but it's the first quarter. Your team hasn't practiced, that you haven't practiced, and you know, but twice in the last week, why not take a shore or three points.

You're at home. It's early in the first quarter. Why why why get out here and try and and and risk it. So I mean to me, you are the better football team today, especially since they're shorthanded. Why not

take three? Guys, help me understand that. You're like Tom this early in the game, why are we going I'm not saying it's right or not, but I think he's just trying to put that team to bed, like he's trying to go ahead and just impose his will, go ahead and rack up as many points as he can, because at halftime, he just wants to tell these boys, little man, let's just step on these boys throats and

end and end this game. You know, this RATNS team shouldn't even be on the same field as this Pittsburgh team. But and missing that fourth down and going forward and missing to it, you actually did the opposite and you gave this team life. But I can understand where he's coming from on this one. Yeah, listen, I'm with Mike team because if you guys remember back when they first moved the kickoff, I mean the PA team back the Stiller's word, like the number one team is it going

for two versus kicking the field goal? So Mike t is known for taking that risk going forward on fourth down, going for two instead of going for one. So I mean, I don't expect anything different from him, and they expect to beat this team pretty handily, So why do not start off fast and try to get it? Okay, Okay, we can disagree on that, but that's that. That's just me feel only for the Steelers newly, Only for the Steelers, not for the Cowboys. Only for them. They have a

reputation for doing it. They are undefeated, so their reputation, you know, they can afford to take some of those risks. A lot of other teams in the league cannot include us. You know, Mike has only lost one Super Bowl, He's won a Super Bowl, He's lost the Super Bowl. You remember who beat him in that Super Bowl game? L Yeah, yeah, who gat Mike? You remember who game Mike that L day? Mccraig, I do not. I think I remember them? What was it?

A Green Bay? Green Bay? Get all big Mike Harthyr They beat Arizona lost the Green Bay And you know where that game was played. Remember that game was played in detail. It was played right here in Arlington at six feet snow. That was all it wanted to have a blizzard that year and ruined all the small festivities. Man, I was ready for that week too, Like it's going down this week, man, Man, snow and the whole Metroplex act like they didn't know what to do. Man, it

was crazy. I ain't go a lot to you. I was at the Rick Ross. I was at the Rick Ross party. Man. I got me, I got me a driver. We set in together, and we were driving all through that snow. Listen, I've never seen somebody fall fall so hard at the snow. Man. People don't realize that it's ice under there. It's slippery. It's not like you see on TV. People just be running. Man, it was it was funny to see. But I had my fair share of good times during that that snow blizzard. Hey, is

it is it too? Is it too late to change my pick? Man? RG three out here looking terrible? I know you cannot change it. We knew this, Terry. Let's look at this guy. Oh Man, you know, hey, I was mistaken so far on this one. No, we don't know. Stick with your pick, Stick with your pick. Oh no,

I ain't gonna back out. I ain't gonna back out, all right, And I'm facing the Steelers defense and fantasy football too absolute till this is Listen, We're doing We're doing the show, and everybody I'm sitting he knew he looking at fantasy football. Church churts, church Man because it's pick pick. Let's take a prank. Let us take a break. I still want to talk about Lamar Jackson coming back next week against the Cowboys and how Mike Nolan is

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Right now, the Cowboys are watching this game in position groups, and I think if you're the Cowboys, you cannot look at this Ravens team and expect the same outfit on Tuesday. Because Lamar Jackson isn't playing in the game, the Ravens don't have some offensive blind help, and right now the Ravens aren't looking good as RG three just threw a pick six into the end zone. Though Church has them scoring twenty four points and beating the Steelers thirteen Nostra

Dallas strikes in. Okay, So I will start with you Church. If you are Mike Nolan, how do you scheme Lamar Jackson, the reigning MVP, who right now is not having the season he had. The Ravens are a six and four football team. Lamar Jackson has fifteen touchdowns and six interceptions three Russian touchdowns. Last year he had thirty six passing touchdowns,

six interceptions and seven Russian touchdowns. So it looks as though the league is caught up with and Lamar Jackson right now has less passing yards than Cam Newton to the New England Patriots. So Church, how does Mike Nolan defended? Who I mean? It's gonna be rough. They gotta bring some boys out of retirement, man. They gotta get de Marcus where back out there? They gotta get you know,

they gotta get Woodson at the safety. I mean, they're gonna need some help back there defensively to hold this dude down. But in all reality, man, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be extremely tough because you got so much to worry about what this guy. I mean, look, if you his legs, which is his predominant feature, right, he can outrun anybody on the field. He might be the fastest guy on the field when he touches the field on Tuesday. So for me, I mean it's tough. You

got the RPO action. I mean, he has all he'll have all his weapons back at that point too, So it's not like you can singularly, you know, focus on one person or one person out of this offense to kind of shut down because he has so many people to throw it too. It's just to me, I think they're gonna have to take a pick. They're gonna have to take a page out of the Las Vegas Raiders defensive scheme when they went against Mahomes out there. Now, you know, Lamar, he doesn't have the arm or anything

like that. In my homes, he doesn't have the accurates or anything like that. But what they did was they only rushed three at a time and they kind of dropped everybody else back in coverage and zone and kind of had everybody's eyes looking at the quarterback. And I think that's what you're gonna have to do with Lamar Jackson. You're gonna have to force him to try to beat you with his arm because if you don't, man the man and everybody's backs turned to this guy, he's gonna

take off and he's gonna destroy you all games. So for me, you gotta have all eyes on this guy. You gotta play some type of zone. But it's gonna be tough, man, because this guy's electric. Yeah absolutely, Uh listen, make them make him meet you with the arm. But we already know we can't stop the run, so just let them do what they do in the ring game. Anyways. Make the guy beat you with his arm. Do not try to put a fire on him like we did

against Calamur. We know that doesn't work. The more eyes that you have on Lamar Jackson as he's dropping back and trying to pass, the better for you. So play a lot of zone, have a lot of eyes on the guy, Try to not think it beat deep, but force him to make those tight window throws and read the zone coverage. And I think you have that's your best chance. You know, as far as your defensive line,

those guys can rush. But to make sure those guys do not rush past Lamar Jackson, you have to stay in your lanes and stop your rush before you get past him, or it's gonna be a long bay for guys chasing them, chasing them around out there. All right, gentlemen, and Barry specifically for you, what is it like to be a have an outstanding season? Last year Ravens thirteen and three, number one seed, they didn't make They made the playoffs, but they got knocked out by Tennessee, so

they didn't make the super Bowl. And then the next year thinking okay, hey we could be better, and then you're not. I picked Pittsburgh to win the division, and I picked Pittsburgh to go to the super Bowl. So what is it like that next year trying to climb Everest one more time? It's tough, man, because like you said, when I was with Jacksonville in twenty seventeen, I mean we almost got to the top of the mountain. I mean, we were three minutes away from playing in a Super Bowl.

We got cheated by the refs. But that's another story for another day. But it's hard to get It's hard once you get to that. You know that for Echelon to come back that next year and you have to get even better. You have to get even better as a team, as a unit, as a physician group, you have to get better. You can't just rest on what you did that last year and I can only go back example, that's what we did in twenty eighteen. We thought, you know, coming into the season, man, there's no way

nobody can hang with us. We were three minutes away from beating Tom Brady and the Patriots. We got this thing under wraps. And we started out two and know we ended up beating those Patriots during those first two games, and you couldn't tell us anything. We kind of just kind of gott you know, just confident in ourselves and was just like, you know what, no one can beat us, and we went on to lose eight straight. I mean, you just you have to change. You have to evolve

each and every year. You can't just rest on what you did the year before, or teams are gonna pass you up, And that's exactly what happened to us. We ended up finishing dead last in our division and I ended up getting released. So what you gotta do is you gotta evolve and get better each and every year, and we just weren't able to do that in Jacksonville and looking like Baltimore might be on that same road.

I got a question for you Church to follow it up, because in my eyes, I think the biggest mistake that you guys made was did you guys extend Blake Brdles after that season? Oh? Yeah? Like I was looking and I was like, he's not the reason why y'all made it as far as y'all did. It's a matter of fact, he was a detriment to y'all and y'all could have made it a little further. He played better as the playoffs went, but he was not really a reason for y'all.

He did not deserve an extension, and that showed the next season. I didn't understand that, and it healed y'all back. As complacent of y'all may have been, y'all's quarterback player was not helping y'all at all. Yeah, and that's what and that's what I meant by saying, you know, we gotta get better each and every year. I didn't want to put his name out there, but we didn't get better at the main position. Yeah, and he was really bad,

and he was even worse that next year. So um yeah, And when you don't have a quarterback back there, it's tough. It's tough to win games in this league. And we found out that out that hardway. Now I go back to that draft and I keep looking at the teams who passed on Deshaun Watson, and there's only been one team that got out of that unscathed. The Bears, um have have rued, They've rued the day they them not taking Watson, they took Trabisky. The forty nine ers ended

up getting Garoppolo. They went to Super Bowl and Garoppolo couldn't make that throw to a wide open Emmanuel Sanders to win the game. The Jets decided to take Jamal Adams and the safety instead of Deshaun wa Uh. Tom Coughlin decided to draft Leonard Fournette over Deshaun Watson. I mean, just looking at these teams and saying, look at what you guys did and where you where you are when

you passed on a franchise changing quarterback. And I think to myself all the time, what Jacksonville could have been with Deshaun Watson as their quarterback. And we see how Watson has frustrated New England in the past and how they've struggled trying to contain guys with the ability to run and throw. Watson could have transformed Jacksonville. Man, you know what, Church, who knows you could have still been there? You still could have been another two three years, um

like that exactly. I mean, we could have done we could have done some things, man, because we were still in twenty and eighteen. We were still the top ten defense. Like I think we ended up number eighth overall in defense, but our record didn't show that, and mainly because you know, our quarterback play was so bad. Man. We ended up I think the last two games of the the year. We ended up starting Brandon Island, I think the last two games, and it was just bad. It was just all bad. So, yeah,

that was a rough experience right there. But that's what happens when you miss on your quarterback. You cannot miss on a quarterback. And just said for me, I never understood why would you take a Leonard for that? And this is not a shot at the LSU, Danny, But why would you take a running back when you can get I mean, and I didn't think la Fournette was special. I thought he was good at LSU, but I don't think he was a special back. I thought you could

have got another running back later on. But to take a gay like Watson who is so special, that was my thing, and I'm still to this day. I don't understand what were NFL executives thinking this was a special quarterback? And the forty nine ers passed, the Bears passed, the Jets path, the Jacks path. I did not get that at all. Well, the bat the Browns passing the Jacks

pass because they extended their quarterback. They thought they had their got Somebody upstairs said, we got our guy, and if we just add a running back on a different piece outside of the quarterback, I think that we win. They saw him make some plays during the playoffs and they said, all right, he's he's on the upswing and next year he can do nothing but get better. And they forgot about all the stuff that he did in the past to make him look that way, and they

extend him. I put the game in twenty five million bucks. Yeah, but that that draft was before Okay, that draft was before they went on that run. So Blake Portles at that point in time was a guy who still had question marks that you're looking him like saying, hey man, I don't I don't know about this dude. And and to me, I think Rich Filman might be the only guy that I can think of recently in the NFL who's done it the right way. He used a top

fifteen pick on Christian Ponder in Minnesota. Ponder could not play at all. They ended up moving on from Ponder and they got Bridgewater. Bridgewater ended up helping him get to the playoffs, and they ended up he ended up being a Pro Bowl guy. But to me, at some point in time, it's very I mean, you saw Danny Blake Portles was nothing special. This is a guy like, okay, you missed right, right, so good not special? He was not good? Wasn't it wasn't good? Right? He couldn't process.

He couldn't process. I mean, it's like it's like watching mental troubisky for anybody's like, oh, I don't remember Blake portals. We'll just think of mental troupisky And so why are we waiting around? As a general man te to me, you just raise your hand and you say, you know what. Guess what, folks, we made a mistake. But guess what, we have an opportunity to take a game changing guy. And and in fact, let me take let me resend that um Steve Kahn, there's the guy who most recently

got it right. Where they traded up for Josh Rosen. It wasn't a good fit. They fired the head coach, they traded Rosen, they took Kyler Murray and got a new coach, and it looks like Arizona's probably gonna make the playoffs this year. Yeah, I mean it must be tough for gems to admit, you know, they're wrong, because I mean, look at it. Look how long it took, you know, the Detroit to fire Patricia. I mean, they just did it. And look at Adam Gates. He's still

over there in New York. So it must be something where it's like a pride thing or something where these guys are like, na, I can't admit I can't give up on my guy. I just don't understand it. I wish they would have did it down in Jacksonville. It was one of the fun the most, like craziest situations. We're in the locker room. He had just got paid and everybody's kind of like, oh yeah, congrats man, we got you for another couple of years. Like great, I can't believe it. Like it was. It was one of

the weirdest situations ever. Man, congrats man. Where to go? Where to go buying dinner? It was rough because we knew we were gonna struggle next year. It was rough. A d mac um Noster Damas is leading. Now Baltimore ends up recovering a punt fumble punt they scored, so it is seven to six Baltimore front. So Nostre Damas, you're still trying to change your pick now, Oh no, I'm gonna stick with him. Down with ships man, either anyway it goes, I'm going down. You know the ship's

going down. That's that's all that matters. You know, the ship's going down. All Pittsburge needs to doing score what six more points? You said? Right? We'll see on the show tomorrow. Who was right. We'll see on the show tomorrow who right. So, Danny Berry, since you guys were both safeties and the Cowboys right now are watching this game at the start, what do you how do you look at this Ravens game knowing from an offensive standpoint, this is not going to be the group you see

on Tuesday? How do you how do you really look at this game? And it's to definitely look at man, but you gotta go back tendencies. I mean, one, if they're watching the game, you can't get the all twenty two looks, so you can't really see what the receivers are doing route wise, and you're pretty much kind of

focused on the just the front. Just what are the front doing and what the scheme they got running back wise, So for me, you just kind of look at the concepts and how they like to run the ball and how many times they're pulling guys and all that other stuff because you can't really do anything with the past watching the TV copy. Yeah, listen, I didn't want to say anything about this at the beginning of the show. The only people that should be watching this is the offense.

They should be watching them. They should be watching how Baltimore's defense plays, because you can scrap the tape for what's going on with the defense, right, if you watch any of this tape, you can guarantee yourself as you gonna go out there and look like a straight food all right, watch the previous weeks with Lamar Jackson out there, because I can guarantee you that it's a totally different dynamic, totally different a way that they are calling the places.

It might be some of the same plays being called, but the situations that they call them in to me will be totally different. So don't watch this tape defense, watch the previous takes. But if you want to just do some team comaraderie stuff to do what you gotta do and get together. Well, I'm watching special teams to see if there might be any area where the Cowboys can run a fake punt on these Ravens. Man, we

don't fake. Maybe a fake field goal, fake field goal, maybe you know that we had the Cowboys haven't tried that yet. Maybe a little end around where you know, the holder just throws it up and you know so maybe So I'm checking out the special team and seeing how that is. All right, this was, uh, we'll do

a show tomorrow. We're gonna be off on Friday, so we'll have a reaction to this this Ravens Steelers game tomorrow and get you ready as the Cowboys get ready to face these Ravens on Tuesday in Baltimore for Danny McCrae and Barry Church. I knew we scrugs as our producer, the great man Chris Beam. We appreciate you checking out the players how Brought to you by Hotels dot Com

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