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Newy Scruggs is joined by another pair of undrafted former Cowboys, as Everson Walls and Nate Newton share their thoughts on the teams 5-1 start, their expectations going forward and more on a special bye week edition of the Player's Lounge!

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The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the Players Lamb broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and Newie Scrugs. It is the Players Lounge, moved from the time slot of twelve thirty Central Standard Time to one thirty just for two days. We're doing a switch of shows this week, so we continue to have players on

the team. We continue to have two undrafted former Dallas Cowboys part of the players instead of Danny McCray Berry Church. We have three times Super Bowl champion Nate Newton. We have Super Bowl champion Everson Walls. Here, Rings, I did you say the word? I just say spurs something like that, Ring, Ring, I am barely knew, he scrugs. This is Players Last, brought to you by Hotels dot Com. Gentlemen, This team

is five and one. That's right. And then I wanted to point out and get your thoughts because they're on on Tuesdays and then usually on Wednesdays everybody has theirs up. But I just saw power rankings today, so I looked over ESPN's power rankings, and they've got Arizona number one, Buffalo two, the Real Buffalo, number two, the Rams three, Tampa Bay four, Dallas ways in at five. The Washington Post came out with their top uh, their their power rankings.

They've got Green Bay one, Tampa Bay two, Arizona three, the Rams four, Baltimore at five, Dallas six, Green Bay one. Pro Football Talk dot Com at NBC has their power rankings, and they've got Arizona one, Tampa Bay two, Baltimore three, the Rams four, Green Bay five, Buffalo six, Dallas seven. They just hate to put us up there. Don't think we always part of the also lan. So what's your thoughts? ESPN Cowboys five, Washington Post Cowboys six, NBC Pro Football

Talk Cowboys seven. Were sitting back right, we send by right. Note at seven we sit by right five six or seven seven boys to come up off of the off of this break. He just run through some folks, see he don't he don't want to he's no, no, no, he wants us to stay. No no, no no, don't poke the bear type of things. So yeah, no, you don't really want to know. It took me five years. No, ever since. We are ready you and you're looking at number one on Homer in the world never picked the

Cowboys to ever lose. Even last year I was sixteen and old, they added a game. I'm seventeen and old. We are poise, my friend, because down these coaches gonna break down this film. They're gonna really see how our defense is playing. We ain't get nobody back of significance, you know, no more than dance. I'm strong to get back. It gives coach McCarthy. Yeah, we get Coach McCarthy. We

don't need it back to your ship. We get coach McCarthy and kill them to get together and really tweak this thing a little bit so we can make this run. Because once we become number one, number two, number three, you don't want to fall off of it. You don't want to follow. We're in the right spot because Asna is dangerous, the Rams Green Bay is dangerous. But don't be afraid to be better than five now, you know. But you sound like you're saying, well, you know, we're

not going to get poised. We're not there. We're not better than five. We're not four. No, we're not there yet. We're not four, Because you cannot tell me, in your heart of hearts that right now, these teams on a neutral field that Dallas can bust them up. See, I won't one hundred percent. I will bust you up. Go through that first one again from missus new that's the best one. The first on the ESPN one has an Arizona one, Buffalo two, the Rams three, Tampa Bay four,

Dallas five. That's the best. That's the best one. And they're sitting at the best spot right there, because which one you know, which one of those teams that you think Dallas will bust up right now? The first of all, I just want to win. I think we can beat all of them. I'm not trying to bust them up and blow them out. You're not gonna blow any of those guys out. What I'm looking at is you've got a Rams team that tanked a game. You've got Buffalo

that tanked a game. The Cowboys didn't tank a game. They got beaten by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Cowboys could be five and old, six and old. Right now you're telling me that's not the case. They could be six and now, can you give me those first four guys. Again, there's missus Kruggs all right. In the ESPN polls Arizona, Buffalo, Rams at three, Tampa Bay four, Dallas five. Now here's

the interesting one. It's the Washington Post where they've got Green Bay at one, Tampa Bay at two, Arizona who's undefeated. They have only three Rams, four, Ravens five, Dallas it's six Green off quarterback's personality. A personality is at the quarterback. That's true. I'm just trying to tell you Cincinnati had Green Bay beat their Cincinnati's kicker just in the jam Broto.

So you look at all of those games, there could have always been some type of scenario where, yeah, they all of those teams could have had the worked over clothing us Nate. Yes. So that's why I say I'm not winning by busting them up. I know that anyone let me get busting up. Busting up to me is whether you win by a hundred or whether you win by one, you got busted up. So what you're saying

is you want to show a particular dominance. I want to, Yes, sir, these teams that you have spoken in that ESPN, these teams right now has I think both sides of the ball a little bit better than us, you know, both sides, both sides. Yeah, defense, I'm telling you, man, you can't tell me at this point you had the Cowboys at five and one. Did you ever see I'm the only one to have them at six and I'm the only one. So what I'm trying to tell you is they are in the right place at the right time to do

some big damage. Now you want in three weeks, because with the schedule we got changed, things ain't gonna change for the Cowboys. The Cowboys at nine games, the Cowboys should be eating one. I can live with the ESPN one, the Washington Post one first quarterback deal, yeah, Green Bay one. Overall, I just say absolutely not, because if you had Dallas faced Green Bay right now, I would take the Cowboy

um and then to have an undefeated Arizona team. What you're playing at you're playing at home, right, It doesn't matter, you could, doesn't matter. Not this team. I'm with you, Kno, this team, not this squad. This ain't you ain't going not with Aaron Rodgers. What's what's tax record up there? Green Bay? I don't know. One, No, I don't know, But not not. Yeah, yeah, it ain't been since. But I'm telling Aaron Rodgers, no, sir, come on the next one.

Here are you going on personalities? No? No, not, Yeah, you're right, when why can't you blame them for place? I'm not. I'm not blaming them. I say they did that because I'm just giving you the reason. Ever, I know the reason I call you cover right, Yeah, you caught me so so I'm looking at the Washington Post number one of cream Band. I'm just no. And then to disrespect Arizona by having three right, um, Arizona's shown

you they're a good football team. And to go into Cleveland without your head coach, and I mean they not an excuse to lose. They just knocked the Browns in their mouth. They said, up there, hurt the quarterback. You got just number two running back, Cream Hunt. They put him out again. I mean they put it on. Yeah, they game that work. The Cowboys put them on. People understand all this. So so the Washington Post knew it. Y'all know, y'all know, we all know. Indeed, symbol them

same teams being naming. Right now, I headed a Cowboy, it's gonna be the same one. We're talking about making this run. Y'all know it, don't That's fine, But October nineteenth, here on a Tuesday, October nineteenth, I'm looking at this and I'm just I'm looking at this and I just don't get Green Bay at one. Now. Pro Football Talk there they had the Cowboys ranked the worst at seven and they went Arizona one, which I believe that that's

that's where they should be at six. Yeah, Tampa to Baltimore three, that's the one I shake my head on and I just say, yes, wow, because you've got Ronnie Stanley now, who's out, excellent, excellent tackle. Ronnie Stanley's out for the year. I don't think that team with just Lamar Jackson alone and no other in my opinion good running backs can beat the Cowboys. I don't think they can beat them. And I'm just looking at consistency. I think Lamar's asking how much in this league you guys

have played it? How much can you keep putting on Lamar Jackson as he's starting to lose offensive lineman and the I forgot the one kid they brought out. He came out, had a good game, and he's kind of slowed back down. I think what lamars. Can we look at the right, I don't think can we look at Can we pull that up? Where are the next three or four games? Because that is huge for Baltimore, Yes, sir,

for Baltimore. Can we look that up? Because if they playing, they're finding the dig teams they can get and get help. There we are playing some some so called okay the teams. The schedule for Baltimore here looks is really good. So they get Cincinnati, then a bye week, then they get Minnesota, then they're at Miami, they're at Chicago before they go back to face Cleveland. That's two losses. It's favorable man,

five and one right now. Yeah, so come on, man, if you get the nine games, which is the new halfway point nine games, and you sitting at six games even five and four, you you are set up to make a run on the second half of the season. And we don't know why this thing gonna go bard injuries like you say, but if everybody quarterbacks staying tall, because we all know at the end of the year,

that's what's gonna make the different. Right. It's got an amazing boarding cast with their quarterback cowboys in pretty Man. The Cowboys quarterback can go toe to toe with Baltimore's quarterback. I agree, And so just for me, when I'm looking here at the one pig can can I when you when you tell the defense match up, right, I'll see what you're saying. Which defense would be the best? Yes, match up? Yes, that's the that's the tipping point. My

issue with Baltimore three. I don't think Baltimore is a better football team than Dallas right now. They got and then they got the rams at for green Bay five, Buffalo sixth in Dallas seven. I just think the Cowboys at seven is wrong. Oh, there's no doubt that's wrong. That the Cowboys are. This is the Pro Football Talk at NBC's Pro Football Talk, NBC's Pull Arizona one, Tampa two, Baltimore three, the rams at for green Bay five, Buffalo six,

Dallas seven. The Cowboys are a top five football team right now. I'm not gonna argue with that. I'm not gonna that's that's probably the world five or six. You're good, yeah, yeah, but what about you don't have us at seven? The thing you agree with the seven nothing but a pole, it's nothing but college. It's just like the college for nobody knows, but as the season goals, we will find out. We know this, but it's always talking about right, fun conversations, right,

I want talking right now on October nineteen. I look at this pole ESPNS. I say, fine, where you've got the Cowboys the Washington Post pole. I disagree with they got the Cowboys and six and then they've got Green Band one and I don't think Green Bank can be I don't see how the Rams are better than us. We're talking about based on who they played, how they've played, and I'm seeing the same games y'all seeing. I'm looking at the stars that y'all are talking about and the

backups that y'all are talking about. All of them take the game. I'm so we did not take one game, and so early in the season. Man, So I haven't just went down and broke it down like you guys have. But I'm telling you it don't matter seven. Okay, fine, fine, I'm good with it, brother, because I'm telling you after this break, while we do another show together, so I can help you out. All right, I'm just gonna sit up here and just look. These are the Rams victories. Okay,

they beat Chicago, they beat Indianapolis. They beat Tampa at home, they beat Seattle, they beat the Giants. Okay, that's one team with the winning records that they beat. Okay, Tampa, everybody they beat them in Tampa. No they no, that was that was in La Okay. That was that was in La Okay. So just looking at that, the Giants or what one in five? Uh, Indianapolis is two and

four maintaining. Okay, Chicago they're struggling at three and three like over here, and I look at green Bay, Okay, five and one football team got drilled by the Saints. Beat Detroit one last second against San Francisco. Because once again, Kyle Shanahan has no clock management skills. I don't know what you could playing about, Mike McCarthy. Go ass, go look, go look at Kyle Shanahan. Who's Niners are two and three. They beat Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh we see right now is in

last place. Three and three. They escaped against Cincinnati and overtime, and then they drilled Chicago, who's a three and three. But no, I'm just sitting here just saying I look at Baltimore, I look at Green Bay. You can't tell me those teams are better than that based on what you just said. And Nate, here's all I'm saying. I am not overly impressed with them to where they should be up higher than the Cowboys because of the miss steps that they've taken. He just pointed out too, teams

that have taken missteps that we haven't taken. Any missteps that we've taken. We still won the game. You see what I'm saying. And the one game that we lost it was against the Phenix Super Bowl CHAMPI Thursday night. We know how they went. I feel you, man, I feel like we used to do them fry turkeys. Man. I'm just I feel you back that to me, based on what he just talked about, you don't see the

Cowboys making those missteps and still losing. They make those missteps and they win, So to me, it means that they should have more more credibility. At five on average, right, they're at five on average? Right, am? I correct g six on average because it's five and it's and it's still good. It's still good. All right. Let's take our first break. They barely missing the college playoffs. Don't worry, but they barely missed. They got a few weeks to get to move up. Let's hit our break. Should Lell

Collins get his starting job back? Oh yeah, we need to talk about this. Dak Prescott's calf strain, We'll dive into that. Trevon Diggs chasing Everson Walls. Let's get into a whole bunch of issues here. All the players lounge as Nate Newton and Everson Walls fill in for Danny mccranberry Church. They are going to be off the rest of the week. I'm knew we scruggs. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Honey, Big News? Gary? Are you okay? Oh?

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we've got We're still keeping it with players. So we got Everson Walls, We've got Nate Newton, two former undrafted free agents who playing for the Cowboys. Both men have Super Bowl rings on their fingers. Let's dive into the fact that Cowboys are want to buy but Lell Collins's back should he get his jobs at starting by tackle, Nate Us talk with you. Okay, let me say this first, your guys, you know the power rankings. Ain't got y'all jumped off the cliff five. I save y'all, right, Okay,

I'll pull y'all back off. Okay, now back to the more important things. Let's don't play. See, let's don't play you you miss Gilmore and let him go to the Panthers. Don't. Let's don't miss only. Okay, this is our player, our all Pro Pro Bowl right tackle. That's don't miss this, dude, don't play. I don't think he's made a problem. He should have last year or two years ago. He should have headed for this year. Yeah, so du human, don't play. We had like we don't ran up on some Super Bowls,

some NFC championship games. We just removed from having the worst defense in America last year. Okay. And this offense is what helps this defense do good. Even though Diggs is turning this thing over like he's doing and Randy Gregor is finding his sea legs, that's don't fool it now. It's still an offense that's gonna make this click. So you need to be able to be now you're not fortuning the thirteen personnel sixty percent of the time. If you have Lyell, you can put an extra skill position.

God there to say, you know, so that's don't play. Lyell is your man at right. He gives this team attitude. He's he's there. Eric Williams, come on, now, I agree with that. I didn't know it so mean, yeah, I did not know he had that kind of hostility, that kind of violence. Man, this guy. I saw him against Tampa, how well he played. He was headed for a Pro Bowl year. I think I don't know what the heck went down in regards to these tests. But you know, when you talk about this team, the only way he

might clash a little bit. This is a team full of high character. You know, you gotta show you got character on the squad. Even Zeke had to kind of calm down, say, look, you know what need to follow my quarterback. I need to follow my Mary Cooper and these guys and be able to carry myself as a professional.

You know, sometimes you just don't want any drama. And with loud Collins, every time we're looking up with this deal, there's some drama coming up about rumor this rumor adding what he did well, if we could just put all that behind us, when he comes back, he won't be Ben Simmons. You know, he won't have it. He won't be tripping over the bottom lip in practice. I want to make sure when he comes back, he's come back

way to play and everybody's with open arms waiting on him. Man, he still needs to step right back into his starting position. There's no doubt about it. Jerry Jones was asked about that on his show on one or five three the Fan today in the Cowboys Hall of Fame, owner didn't say yes. Mike McCarthy was asked about it yesterday. He didn't just come out and say yes. I think they also want to respect what Terrence still is done. That's what I was gonna ask you, what's gonna What do

you think about Still? Yeah? I respect what he's done, and I respect that thirteen personnel, and I respect them extra all that extra help he's getting my boy Lyle, so you can do something else with these receivers, and you can do something else for these titles. I gotta keep it real, man, I gotta keep it real. But call see, I got a mission after this see when we go fourteen and whatever. Thirteen I got flags to play on people's stadiums, and I can't have you messing

that up. You guys are former players, and this is just how I see it. He was your starting right tackle for reasons. Yes, he's a better player. You're going to get a better player back. Terren Steele did an outstanding job. There are a lot of questions going in. He checked out all the marks and he has done something that the Cowboys are probably with the last six seven years trying to do find a swing tackle. Right We saw Tyron Smith have to leave the game when

he left New England. They started sending some heat and you saw there was some challenges there. He gets back in the game, it helps, So in my opinion, Collins goes back to right tackle. We got tiring it left still beyond standby and it's seventeen games. You're gonna playing eleven games in a row after the bye week, so hey, um, just just be happy you have some depth. I love the Death, man, I love the Death. Well you I mean, wow, Louis, you came with it. Yeah, I like that. I love

I love the Death. Like you said, he's our starting guy. He always was. We brought him here for that. We were lucky to get him in the first place. Yeah, I go back to when you play, when you had a backup like Kevin Gogan now became a valuable piece, Yes, and then when you had John John valuable piece who ends up in having to step in from Mark Stepnoski me. You need that kind of depth along the way. That's that's what you need. People forget that Super Bowl thirty year.

Larry Brown wasn't starting sitting on the bench. It was Dion Sander and Pup Keith Pup went down Sunday night. It was game. It was a Sunday night if I'm not listening, game. And and yes, and so you needed Larry Brown who ended up getting the two Super Ups. And you never let you never gave Larry Brown a break, didgit? No, No, you clowned him when he made a play. Yeah. A nice guy, man, I ain't bought them guys. Man, that was no you, that was your boy to pick on.

You enjoyed watching him do well because he was one of those guys everybody pulled forward. Wow. So I remember him coming to me quick store. I remember him coming to me, uh, doing training campus first year and he's like, man, I'm thinking about leaving man because he was one of them guys, I'm doing this for my mama. I'm doing I'm I'm build my mama house and all that. And I told him, I said, son, I'm gonna tell you something. This ain't this ain't TCU. I mean the dudes, it

don't put it on you. Yeah, buddy, and uh And when and when you get a bad day with somebody, them beat your head and you ain't even think about your mama. You can be thinking about pol little you. So you better decide whether you want coming into that locker room. Yeah, you better decide whether you and knew right after you got toasted. Hey, he looked kind of crazy. Yeah, but he he made him and I and I and he's a great businessman. He's a great businessman. He's doing well.

He got he's doing well by his kids and for other kids as well. Larry Brown. Wow, let's dive into Dak Prescott. The quarterback Mike McCarthy yesterday met with the media and said, yes, it is a calf string for Daka to take the rest of the week off to get rested. Then on Monday, they'll re evaluate. Dak says, I'm gonna be fine. Um. He always says that he said that after you broke his ankle. I mean he's so. I mean, I'm good. I love him, nd he good court. John Grew Yeah, I just I just hope that he's

not those players that we would hurt his team. You know, can I say somebody grew the situation? Say somebody grew the situation. I know my black people are gonna be mad at me. They're gonna be upset. Coach gruten This from Nate Knew, No, fat guy. I hope you really don't feel what you've expressed in these emails. I forgive you, brother, I forgive you man. I'm sorry you lost your job. This is what happens when you make mistakes of that magnitude.

You were powerful man. But brother, I hope you really don't feel that way. And when however, I see you again, I want to be able to hug you and brother, they love Okay, Coach Grew for the thing, You're gonna have to forgive more than just John Bruton. Yeah. I know other people out there ye right now. Yeah, they are emails now because they're already out there. But but see if the thing about it is I kind of knew coach Gruton and we always had a good relationship.

I just didn't know he was had some underlying issues like you know, the diabetes and all of that. That's you know, this is the interesting thing because Chris Sims had talked about it on his podcast. Chris played for him at Tampa back and John is the guy who man, I love that, and he talking man, Nate, I love you many many for super Bowls. Nate was a great guy. Man Nate walks away and then he's just John grew a fantass and I was stabbing. Yeah, but for me,

he was too slow. Yeah, you know, that's that's what he knew. That He'll probably throw in some ethnic slurs. Sim he been eating too much fire chicken or something that Williams made him, you know player name lift they did, they did, they made me better. But that's that's what he would say. So there was so Gruten's you know, he's notorious for doing that. Sim said he heard him at one buck place through a wall talking cash noise about him. Oh man, and then he said another but

maybe he was just that guy. He was so insecure. But that's the thing. That's a lot of coaches, but he goes in that way but a lot. And that's where Queen Kesha hated him. And Keishawan was that kind of guy where, yeah, he operated on Black folk code. If don't don't sit up here and tell me you like me, now hear you sitting every time, because then I got nothing to do with you because he was that way recruiting. He's like he knew how. He was like, man, don't come here me, don't talk to me, and they

had that understanding. Yeah, I know what you're about. Don't come to me with that. Ever you like that too, Yeah, I know, I said, that's why I'm staring ahead black You know, John wants to come up here, and the man I was just I'm sorry you over here, so stay over here. And that's what John was. He ended up telling. He told one broadcaster. He told one broadcaster that Derek Carr man, he's such Yeah, and that's what the broadcaster told me. That's what he said about their card.

That's documented. That's a document two years ago. Then he goes, I've been trying to tell you guys about him. This guy's and all pro this guy's my guy, and all of a sudden things have changed. That was two years two years later, and those emails revealed so much of you. You coach grew. You had this perception and then the emails revealed the reality. But here's the thing for me, is I look at those emails there to Bruce Allen, Yeah, we don't know anything that Bruce say, that's what I

was talking about. That is yeah, but I heard that Bruce seeing you know what, look at Bruce. I don't know, mister Bruce Allen. Okay, I don't really know coach no more because he wasn't the guy that you thought he was. But you know what, I'm still you know, I have a reserve for certain people. I got a reserve for him, and and you know what, maybe he won't change, and maybe when I see him, he probably it's like, yeah, I really said it. I forget you at school too.

I still got new as sounds, Nate. Let's just be real, guys, It's in It's in everybody, me, in everybody. So let's just stop acting like, oh man, I would never say, dude, it's in everybody, But you gotta have a damn sense to not to do on an email. Let's just be real, guys. Listen to everybody, and and so just stop with oh man, I will, I'm not there's not what do you say? That was not a blade a blade of racist a racist bone in my body? Now he said something about

a blade like a blade of grass or something. It was he was really trying to break it down to whether that's not the one I owe a racism in him? That is a lie. Okay, Okay, every we all are visual. We all look at each other a certain way. I can think of a precuice on you, precuce on you. You You can look at me a certain way. But I'm not gonna sit up here in disrespect you because of that. And I'm not gonna see any grant on that on an email. I'm gonna keep that to myself or within

my close group. Okay, but we are still going to respect. Was it? Lyle was talking about it? Now you're the one broke off into this. Now you got me fired off. You you wanted to I said not to. Ever, No, you can't just I didn't want you can't do that. I wanted Nate just something that it's the players, it's the locker room. Baby, this is the locker room. I'm sorry, coach Groom. You just got one the one guy on your side in this room. Okay, right, we were actually

talking about that Dak and the cap straight. Yes, that's all right. So that's that's all right. I'm just hoping that so ok. I want just don't don't down itself even more. He's usually very smart obviously about we have. Because of what he's going through, I think he'll be okay. I think if there was something more, he wouldn't joke. He wouldn't joke because he knows the value of himself, right. So I'm quite sure he didn't stay in his mind

into Brett and to Jim and to all those guys. Hey, man, before I go up here and do this little song and dance, you know, because you hey, what's the elephant? I mean, he opened up and if he if something roll this cat Mandak better be ducking because I'm coming from him. I might have some emails for that. I'll promise you. You've got to pick a Pro Bowl team of three Pro Bowl quarterbacks for the NFC. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that, bro, Please,

don't do me like that. Don't do me. I'm not answering that. Tyler Murray, Tom Brady, that's Stafford. But the hold on these these same pro focused guys that's ahead of him. Stop stop going back. I'm just naming. I'm just you see what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a core. Yeah, I'm just naming them. So you know who are the three that's gonna that? This is my fcn NFC. No, No, this is just NFC. He's my all pro This is just no way. What's your pool three NFC? Yeah, just

three dudes. We're not even talking Josh Allen, So take him out of there, Okay, take Buffalo out of there. No, not Lamar Jackson, No, Lamar Jackson. No, my hu's talking right here in the NFC. I mean Russell took a picture with my wife doing doing doing training camp. I don't do this, don't do it. I don't do that. Don't do that. She hugged all up on them with her on that. I bought. Ye, this it's going to

be Oh, got more likes that week. It's going to be a tremendous decision that's made here, and I expect I expect one of the quarterbacks to be in the Super Bowl. So that will open up another spot. Um, you got four that you just can't even deny, right you four that you can't deny, deserving alone, deserving Kyler Murray right now, Kyler Murray, Tom Brady, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodger. I'm not putting staff in there, even though that's saying a lot deserve that you're not putting Stafford in there.

That's saying to me to see, to me, that ain't right. What I'm just saying, here's and here's what that is. Where this thing was about this power rinking. Here's this is where I'll push up back on you a little bit on on Stafford. The head coach said, I can't do what I need with golf. Go get me this guy. You get me this guy. I can do what I need to do. And you know what they are five and one football team say it's more about golf than

it does about Stafford. I think it says both because I think I think Matt Staffords had this type of talent for a long time, even just in a really bad there's no job about that. But he's playing, I mean about Pro Bowl. He's playing a pro Bowl level. All all of the guys we mentioned are playing at a Pro Bowl level. And that's what I just brought up. You know, who, how do you? How do you? Okay?

At this point, they're looking at QBR right, is that the ultimate stat is that the ultimate category for a number one quarterback for me as wins and losses and all of them five and one. So then if all of them five and one, then you got to go to another Yeah. Yeah, So I'm with Kyla. I'm with Kyla. I'm talking, well, this is more of all the Matthew Stafford thing. I mean, this is just more than Matthew Stafford things. So I'm looking at plastic argument. I can't

even man. Dak Prescott had second QBR right, second best QBR I believe, and he one o eight. Yeah, I would remember one or eight. I think Kyla's number one. I would have to just go by that once you have if it's so close, you have to pick a criteria to break the tie. As far as I'm concerned, it has to be QBR. It has to be you go back and think of what Dak was able to

do this weekend and ever since you played for Bill Belichick. No, one has ever thrown for that mini yards four hundred and forty five against this man fifty one attempts thirty with his thirty eighth I mean you look at the I mean, I mean he has been a machine this year. That was an off game. That was an off game for that finished the game with a one h eight point seven quarterback rating. Is thirty ninth career game with

a hundred rating or better. That's the third most in NFL history through the first seventy five career stars for a player. He scored that touchdown when he went over, he scored. That was a touchdowns. So so so let's this is going to be a fantastic vote. And obviously there's a lot more football, but right here, October nineteenth, I look at these quarterbacks. I couldn't come up with with just three. You had a story about Matthew Stafford

and that whole background. So based on background, I mean, Dak would really clearly be the best quarterback based on the story, the story leading into this season, just like you had the story about Matthew Stafford, I need this quarterback. I can't win with anybody else. He comes in, he does exactly what his coach City would do Dak coming from last year, hadn't played for what eleven games? Yeah, okay, not just the games, the amount of time in between

the off season. He comes back, hits the ground running. Does that make you? Does that make him number one? Aaron Rodgers, It's got the story Aaron Rodgers. You know that's his own fault for not having any off season. The qrs, I mean, I mean, DA has a number one, number two QBR. You know what, Fellas, It's gonna end up being the people who who the quarterback who plays on the biggest stage, the Dallas cow Boys. I'm just saying,

if you look at who what Dak has played. I mean, he's had the CBS game what twice, he's head Monday Night Football, he had the opener. Everybody sees him. That's why he's going to get the votes. And he's with the Cowboys. Let's just face it, it's not just about the ego the Cowboys themselves that just there amongst themselves. This is this is this brilliant just because this is going to be a conversation and it's going to reveal

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Berry Church, Danny McCrae. They're shifting around on different podcasts. We will do this today and tomorrow, then we'll take the rest of the week off. So let's dive into Randy Gregory, who is a free agent. After the season. You can look and talk about the two sacks that he had in the game. But one of the plays that Randy Gregory was a part of, which was critical of my opinion, was there was a touchdown negated because he was being held. Mac Jonals threw a touchdown pastor

and they're all celebrating. Guess what, holding the man is doing everything that the Joneses we're hoping he could do. There's so many names here, there's so many people we talk about. His name gets lost in the shuffle. Randy Gregory is playing the best football of his career, and if the Cowboys cannot get a long term deal with him, you slap the franchise tack about eighteen million dollars your thoughts, Nate never we think you go, you know this this

thing with Randy Gregory, Yes, it's more than football. I mean, this guy's going through a lot. You know, he's had his problems with you know, drug testing, and you know he keeps getting pushed back, his his progress keeps getting pushed back. And you just have to imagine. We always laud uh Dak Prescott on you know, what he went through and how strong he is as a person to be able to come through that. On the other end,

you look at Randy Gregory. You know, when you're because one thing, when you got an injury, you know, but there's another thing when it's coming from you. You know, you have to fight yourself. You're your own biggest enemy. And this guy's come back through all of that when a lot of people would have given up. We're not talking about just one year. We talked about a couple two or three years where this man could have easily given up and people could have given up on him.

And you could just imagine sometimes sitting up late at night by himself, you know, thinking about what his life is going to be like a bout a year ago, two years ago, and now here he is not just seems to be a whole person, but he's also balling. That's really the ultimate respect you have to give to a man who's been through a lot that really has nothing to do with football. When nobody else can help you but yourself, persever it's amazing person. Yeah, you know

it started but the Panthers game. He started coming home before that, but the Panthers game he opened it up. And you know, last two or three games, I think he's had four or five sacks and multiple games twice and so the holding the kid is the kid is he's off the chain right now. And you know, thank God for Queen on Sometimes some of the people that he was connected with. It was trying to help him

get back. Man. In some of the situation when I just think, Man, I'm not gonna say anything because it wasn't brought to me that way. But some of the places he was not only in his mind, but I'm talking about physical places he was. Man, I'm like, and if he can hold on, man, if he's got the right people around him, you know, because you mentioned eighteen million dollars, come on, man, guarantee, please have the people

in place, Randy, to help you help yourself. Because at the pace you're going, you're gonna get to those eight, nine, maybe ten sacks. You're gonna continue to change games like you not only got that holding, but they was coming. They was moving that ball. When he got that sack fumble, he when is the last time we have had a player where we said, oh, man, if they scored here, this could be a true, true dog fight. And he

came round that edge and blistered this kid. And you saw when he made him fumble it by Lawrence Taylor because the quarterback kind of stayed there like what just happened? Where I'm looking at it and I wanted to think what you was thinking. I'm like, we now have to pay this kid what he's been. So this ain't like taking Lawrence. A man pay taking Larrence his money. Because when you get somebody eighteen million dollars, you started talking about face of the defense, a face of the franchise.

What has he been through? What is his history? Man? They help yourself, my friend, however you do it, help yourself, and it's just more. It's more to him than that eighteen million dollars, you know, And once again, U, certain things have to happen for you to take that next step. Yes, and Quinn coming here, Coach Quinn coming here, I think was a god send for him because this defense is made for him. The defense is made for Randy Gregory. Yeah.

So Randy Gregory has an opportunity, in my opinion, to get even better because Tank Lawrence comes back and teams are going to have to account for two guys and you're gonna have once again we talk about offensively picked your poison. Defensively, they got to pick their poison when it comes to these defensive ends and guys coming off the edge here. So and then parsons are really grow and because they'll move him strictly the linebacker and he

can really get back to growing. The amount of pressure that they could create with those three players here is tremendous. And with Digs playing the way he's playing back, I mean there's a lot of positives of what this defense could be. So it's like they said they got to work on it. They got after they got to look at it because we're still giving up too many yards, too many average. So you did listen to what the great okay, greatness, I appreciate. It gets back into getting

more players back. Can you get a Neville Gallimore back? It's Tristan Hill gonna return. I mean just just just yeah, we didn't think about Neville. Neville is a kid that I think if he comes back the way he left, man, this defense can do nothing. But this is the thing that's so funny is you forget about Neville and there's Tristan Hill two years, three years removed from being a second round pig. Yeah, I'm still waiting. Everybody's still a waiting.

That's the depth that we have. Though when he went out last year, he was one of their better defensive tackles. So we talk about eleven games in a row after the buy here, you're going to need depth, so Brown working to get these guys back. The Cowboys can be can have some reinforcements, especially in the middle, because you saw how New England attack the Cowboys running the football right there, get some guys there. Everybody can help you there.

Um Also Diggie Woosa, who we've all looked at him. Man, what a really good rookie year. When I was a training campy, you and I were there, he was strictly a backup. Nobody was thinking of him in that faction because Gallimore was playing that well and Watkins was playing that well. So I look at this football team to say, the pieces that are coming back here, they have an opportunity to get better. All right, guys. Uh, that that flew by real quick. Yeah, that flew by real quickly.

We don't have when I'm just you know, I want to say this quickly. I'm glad that I was able to pull you guys off the clifford over some power rankings and uh. And then it took Everson a whole show that knowledge that I would write. So no, not to brag on my I didn't say you were correct. I just said I agreed with you on a point, just that point. Overall, though, Now what I did there as a host, right is I took something I didn't tell either one of you about. I knew it would

be engaging. Okay, you're great. I knew we would have debate and we have a war winning. That's all that was designed to do. And YouTube fell right into this podcast. Gave me a whole segment on it. That's how you knock it out. We'll be back tomorrow one thirty again. Yes, last, our last show. You know what, Send me a tennerary because I don't want to go through this game, so you can know what not to be on, what show not to be on. N Everson Walls, I'm newly scrugs.

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