Player's Lounge: The NFL Carousel Still Spinning

McCray and Barry Church. I am merely the person who helps them get through this forty five minutes to one hour. We'll see how long we go today. I'm new He's scrugs. All right, gentlemen, how are we doing on a Friday? Now? Ohead go ahead, Dan Mac I'm doing good man. Um, you know it's Friday. My pick was right last week, you know, and let you go first. Unfortunately I don't have any pomo because it's so cold outside. Nobody is venturing I'm going to eat and doing all that stuff,

So y'all all stuck inside just like me. So I'm good. I'm happy, man. I tell you, I should have never let you go first. Man, it's cold. It's head out here. Man, it's freezing outside, you know. So I thought I got away from this when I came down to Dallas. Man, it's cold outside. You can't golf covid out here. Man, it's you know, golf, you can't. I ain't no way I'm going out there. Man, ain't no way. You couldn't

pay me to go out there to day. But you know they won't run the planes dollars today, so you know it's a good day. It's a good day. Yes, we will dive into the super Bowl later on here as Danny was the one who predicted Tampa Bay to win, and like an idiot, I did not listen to De Marcus Ware. De Marcus Ware was on Serious x in radio that morning. I heard him when he said, hey,

look that those tackles are gonna be an issue. I played against uh Mike Rhymers in the Super Bowl and Von Miller and I had a day against him, So I shouldn't have listened to him. We'll dive into that later time. Big wait oh wait wait wait wait wait wait you said love you said the tackles, okay, because we're gonna get back on the later said the tackles. Oh, don't worry. I'm ready for you. I'm ready for you to day. I don't think you're about to bring no

juice on me. And I ain't al ready for mikea lawyer. I'm not about to talk about nothing I ain't ready to come back with. So don't worry, young, We go ahead and get that tackles all you want to on that? All right? J J J. J. Watt asked for his release from Houston, and he got it. I'm still waiting on Brett Farr to say something that he should shut up and play like he said about Sean Watson, But

so far Brett Farve hasn't said that. But JJ Watson is a J J. Watt is a free agent, and they're all whole bunch of people on Twitter, Cowboy fans saying go get him, please come to the Cowboys. Tank Lawrence Cowboys defensive tackle, highs paid player on the team even put something out on Twitter saying, you know, with a phone at J J. Watt like, come on down. I'll start with you guys. Let's go to you first church. Do you want JJ Watt on the Cowboys? Nah? I wouldn't.

I wouldn't go down that that bunny hole. Man. I wouldn't venture down there with JJ Watt. First of all. I mean he said he asked for his release, but let's be honest, he was getting released, all right. I mean the man had five sacks last year, seventeen mil next year. He was getting released regardless. But anyways, I just wouldn't venture down that bunny hole. Man. I think you got two guys that you know could start for you and Gregory, and you got the Marcus Lawrence on

one side and Gregory on the other side. I just don't think you need to do that. And with what money? What money are we allocating towards JJ Wat? I mean he's not gonna come in here for four or five mil. I mean he's still gonna gener rate some type of some type of double digit salary. So for me, I wouldn't go down there. Man. He just hasn't performed that great. And he said he wanted to go to a contender, and I don't know if for that team right now,

So for me, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't venture down that hole. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Church and I'm gonna go a little deeper into the stats man. He had five sex this year, four sexson last year, and yes he was he was probably. I think it all depends on the team you go to. If he wants to go to a team that's probably you know, up against the captain, he'll have to, you know, maybe take a five or six million dollars deal and try to throw some intentives in there. So I just I

just really think it depends on where do you go. Obviously, if you signed with a team with a bunch of cap space, then yeah, you can go get you you can get all the bag you want. But if you're trying to play for a team let's just say, and I'm not just say the Saints, right, the Saints have cap problems, So that's going to be an issue for you to go to a team like that. The Buccaneer

have they have, they're gonna have some cap issues. They're gonna try and bring back Lavonte David and Shaquille Barrett. Maybe they can't, maybe they won't. Kansas City, there's another place a team like that's gonna you know, they're gonna be it's gonna be tight to get under the cap. So would you sacrifice some millions of dollars to go play with the Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady That that, to me, is going to be where jj Watt has

to go ahead and dive into. I'm gonna piggyback up what you said here, Danny, and looking at the jj Watt, He's at one season of five and a half sacks in the last five years. JJ Watt is an aging football player who'll be thirty two years old, and I think jj Watt has got a Hall of Fame resume, three time Defensive Player of the Year. I don't believe

that is the guy for the Cowboys. If I'm gonna go with a thirty two year old guy, the player that I would be interested in from a defensive standpoint in terms of getting to the quarterback would be Von Miller. Von Millers do seventeen million dollars from the Denver Broncos. I don't see Von Miller getting it. He did not play last year at all. And Vaughn's a former Super Bowl MVP. He lives here in the Dallas Fort Worth area. His dad would love to see him with the Cowboys.

And for me, I'm looking at Vaughn's leadership, a guy who has been to the mountaintop as someone If I'm dan Quinn, that I would want all my defense. Now that's just I'm choosing between the players. If I'm to me, has he before I signed wide? I look at mel has he played in that four three or has he always been that three four guy out there endeavor? Or is he he played in the four three before? Yeah, he started off in the four three. So started a

great question. Yeah, great question. But yes, I'm just he's fine and he would he I ended up talking to his representative about that, and he said that was He said the Cowboys were a team that you know that there would definitely be interested in on his part if he's not reack with the Broncos. I wouldn't do either one of those. What like why Like we already talked

about the interior line as where we need helping. I know, I know you were just going if we was gonna pick up J. J. Watt, then you might as well go get von Miller. But I don't think we need either one. Like I have faith in the two guys that we have outside before we go pay somebody else. Ten ten eleven, million dollars. I think Randy Gregory is a very cheap option with a very high ceiling, and we're already paying a hunting me into the Marcus Lawrence.

I just think it doesn't make sense to even look at that position for going to be one of those spots when we put top priority jjat go take take take a pay cut after they chopped this haircut on

Big Bend. Just go up there and play with your brother, you know what's going there, going down on third down, you know, and get those stats and then ride off into the sunset with possibly a deep playoff run because we've seen that Pittsburgh has has the team and they're just missing a few pieces like our running game, but that you know that would be a contender. So just just go do that. Stand away from detown man and let us focus on the interior lignment and our secondary.

But if you had to choose, if it had to come down to it, and would it be what or would it be vomb If you had if we had to pick a piece to compliment d law and Randy Gregory and all that, who who would you get there? D Mac? Would it would it be why or would it be you? Know von Miller, I would go. I would go von Miller because I see, I see the guy that we pick up being mostly a third down guy.

I don't see you you snatching Randy Gregory off the field, who actually played very good in the run when he was in the game, and he showed some very very high potential of getting to the quarterback. So you would have to be sitting him out all the time for J. J. Watt playing the opposite of d Law. Because aside, I'm not listen, I'm not paying no money for us to go switch up this man Hall of fame career to

go switch up this position at thirty two years old. Man, I'm going VIONN Miller, letting him rotate in and out with Randy Gregory, keep your hunt a million dollar man on the field and see how that goes if we had to. But like I said, I wouldn't get either one of them. And another reason why I brought up Von Miller's name is Alden Smith is still someone the Cowboys.

I hear considering bringing back man, And look, I'm just I'm just saying before I'd bring back Olden Smith, would I would go look into Von Miller speaking of free agents, and Danny, you're hitting on another point that you and I are are very much in agreement with the Cowboys

have to fix this into your defensive line. And if you saw how Vita Vella and Dominican Sue were so instrumental in helping that Tampa defense dominate the Super Bowl, to me, it raises that to my my my immediate concern even more, that's where the Cowboys really really really should address themselves in free agency. Um for Dan Quinn, who's whose background as in defenses with the D line. So you got Leonard Williams of the Giants, Dalvin Tomlinson

of the Giants, they're both free agents. And then you got Shelby Harris of the Denver Broncos, who looks like he will not be back with Denver looking at where they have spent money all the D line, he may be the odd man out there. So I'm looking at the interior D line. Those are three guys that if I'm Steven Jones and Jerry Jones and Will McClay, I'm picking up the phone and seeing what will it take for you to come and play for the Cowboys. Yeah,

I would have to agree with you. On that new he I mean, I think we got one piece in there, and Neville gallible or if he's able to keep it going and keep it on the track that he's that he's heading on, I think he could be a stud in there. But definitely, I mean, you got the names you mentioned in free agency, but also the Dominican Sue. I think he's a free agent as well. And he's got a kind of like a mercenary type vibe to him and he hops from team the team just giving them,

giving guys his services. So if he can come you know, you know, relatively not cheap, but if we can get him to come down here, I mean, that would be a valuable piece in there, especially against these pocket passers that you know, tend to tear up the NFL. If you can get that interior pressure, I mean, that's all you need to flush these guys out. And we got the athletics as them on the defensive insides to be able to contain these guys. So, I don't know, defensive

defensive them could be a valuable piece for this defense. Yeah, listen, and to the Cowboys to you know, it's unfortunate that they didn't get to have the team that they expected to have with Jeral McCoy going out and then the emergence of Neville Gallimore. They expected to have some some of that type of stuff that they seen from and Domin Consue up there in Tampa when they signed Jerald McCoy here to the Cowboys, and unfortunately he wasn't able to play. So I think that would have shirted up

a little bit. I would have a healthy Jermal McCoy and emerging Neville Gallimore with d Law and Randy Gregory. I think that would have been, you know, a nice start to rebuild on our defensive line. Unfortunately, it didn't happen, so we had to see what they did with Gerald McCoy moving forward. But yeah, Church, I think and Domin Consue being in Dallas were helping. It would bring some leadership to that defensive tackle position. I'm with you. I'm

a fan of Sue's game. Um, there's been conversations about Gerald McCoy coming back. I hope they don't bring Jerald McCoy back. He's been injured the past couple of seasons, and one of the things we've seen here is, guys, I'm sorry, I like McCoy but he's not what it used to be and dealing with his injury history. Last meet, the Cowboys have put a clause in there, hey man, if you get hurt, we ain't got to pay you

he got hurt. I mean they already waited to this saying, hey man, we're not sure, and so because we're not sure you're gonna be, you're gonna you're gonna finish this season healthy. If you get hurt with this injury, we don't have to pay for it. And sure enough, man, it happened. So I would not be trying to entertain bringing back Gerald McCoy. I'd be looking elsewhere outside the building. But I'm hearing that they're talking about, hey, all right, hey you can come on back here, and that they're

planning on it. I just I just wouldn't do that with with Jerald McCoy. And we got enough injury concerns as is. We got LV coming back from a battling with his neck injuries. I mean, we had Sean Lee and his history. I mean, it's just so many injuries we already have on this def fans bringing back another injury prone dude with just I think complicate things. I wouldn't bring them back. I wouldn't hold on Church. Church.

Let me tell you something. You know one thing about the Cowboys, especially since we've been here, they do not mind picking up injured players, all right. That we drafted, We drafted injured players. Repeatedly. We pick up players that are injured in free agency. We continue to do this. So so keeping Gerald McCoy on the roster, it is

not believe, it's not impossible. It's actually more likely than not that we that we get them on the team friendly deal and allowed to have another chance to play here in Dallas, if you just going based off the history of the guys that we pick up. But what he's saying is, let's stop that. So kay, he's saying, tell you twenty one, let's stop this. We stop with Tyre Smith. Start there, Start there. We're not talking about guy.

We're not talking about guys under contract. Okay here, we're not talking about guys under control, purchase speaking about a guy who's not under contract. Okay, not under contract. It's not gonna affect the cat boy. I tell you, man, I don't know what you what a tyrant Doude, I got nothing, man, It's a it's a podcast. Man. I got nothing personal against Tyren Smith, but the fact is, look at the stats. The mayor hasn't been healthy. I already said this. It's nothing against him as a player.

I think when he's healthy, he's one of the most dominant left tackles in the league. Problem is he ain't been healthy. And me being a Cowboys fan and watching the games, the frustration of us having to rotate these guys in to get murdered over their left tackle and you already know that Tyre Smith might not be in the game. It's it's it just messes with my mind. Man. I always have flashbacks of Atlanta and Clayborne getting paid because he got six sacks with Tyre Smith was out

of the game. I just have flashbacks of that. I don't don't disagree with you, d Mac. I just don't see us picking up a guy in the first round for the offensive tackle. I just you know, that's a lot. That's a lot, man. But John, I just want you to remember, man, the best years. Listen, you got paid to go to Jacksonville because of some of the great years when they were able to run the ball, control the clock, and you were known for having a dominant

offensive line. Y'all were out there on defense and y'all got picks, interceptions, and fumbles because teams were playing from behind with not much time on the clock. This is the way to win. And we had first round talent at almost every position on the offensive line. So I mean, if you think back to this is the way to success. Like like we talked about with new he look at the tackles cost Kansas City the game. So I mean it's not like it's it's outlanders for us to say

we need to get healthy at the tackle position. Get you want in the third round, man, Yeah, that's what's gonna get you to the Super Bowl. Third round tackle, and that's what it is, because that's not what helped us the first tuble. Fourth round quarterback. Hey, you never know. David Backtr, David Baktr might be the best left tackle in football right about now and he's a fourth round pick.

I look at this team. First off, what Kansas City ended up with, it's not even close to what Dallas is in the Kansas City had to put a guard at tackle, and then the Mike Rhymers, the other guy that they put out their tackle DeMarcus Ware already told you he ate him up in Super Bowl fifty. This is Super Bowl fifty five because this was an aging and an old guy at tackle. I thought it was the let me finish, let me finish ahead. You got it, You got it. You had two dudes who were overmatched

from day one. And let me say this for those guys, I watched Andy Reid do something that was his atrocious is what we saw Scott linehan due in that Atlanta game against Adrian Clayborne. You didn't help these guys. You got dudes out here who are getting smoked, and you still want to throw forward five receivers out here and call your plays. No, you may have to just send out two guys. You may have to be able to,

you know, but you don't send out. You don't just sit up here and let these tackles go go Minor a model. They got eight a lot. So I don't get why these offensive dudes Andy Reid, Eric p Enemy, Jason Garrett Scotland, and why is Kellen Moore? Why are you sitting here not giving your tackles help when they're getting killed and your quarterback is running for his life. So you can send three, four or five guys out

of the receiver path. Helped me understand that because I don't get NEWI NEWI you know you know about to get you with this one man, because there's two things you just said. All right, you mentioned de Marcus Ware eating up a offensive tackle. You're talking about Hall of Fame de Marcus Ware talking about a tackle that he ate up in the Super Bowl. How many tackles has he been has he taken it advantage of in his career?

So that's not really saying much like we got guys out there like DeMarcus Ware, who's gonna be able to do that. It was probably easy for him because he's de Marcus Ware number two. Yeah, they moved to guard outside to tackle. What is your playing again? Oh it's Connor Williams who's playing guard currently moving out to tackle.

This is a recipe for disaster in Kansas City. Showed you why we shouldn't be knowing that getting that though, because Timer's gonna be healthy, man, Time's gonna be healthy. Lyell's gonna come back from his surgery. He gonna be healthy as well. I hope, so touch into this. We don't even tell you Church, Church, Church. You have to you have to go back and look at the history of Tyree and this is where Danny has has a legitimate be guys gonna miss four games. Okay that you

go back the last four years. That that's that's that's there. Okay, that's there. Um my thing with Connor Williams. Okay, let's remember what they drafted Connor Williams. Connor Williams at the University of Texas was all American left tackle. They decided to put him at guard. I think he could be a better left I think you'd be a better tackle. I am not opposed to drafting a tackle. Let me

make sure I say this. I'm not opposed to it, but I'm not I am opposed to it in rounds one and two because your defense is so bad that you need to address that defense and you need to address the d line in one of these positions up here. Okay, they're going to be tackles in the third fourth round. Eric Williams, one of the great left tackles and Cowboys history, was a third round pick from an HBCU. Okay, you can go Lyle College your current tackle. What even drafted, right,

Come on, don't don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. I don't really count. Come on, man, Okay, but you can twist it. You can twist if you want to. I'm just saying, okay, I'm just saying, all right, so I am not opposed at number two, number ten, I'm not drafting a offensive tackle. I need help on this defense. It is going to be somebody for the front end of my defense or the back end of my defense. Okay, that's what I'm doing. In rounds one and two. You get a tackle laid on the man

if that's good. But I'm not a dude in the first round. And by the way, guess what if you sign that we keep talking about this, if you signed Dak Prescott, you are going to have limited funds to spend. We'll tell you because if we get if we do that, which is your I mean, we're rather we don't. We already put ourselves. We can't draft anybody early that I like.

And you know we're gonna have to pay that. We're gonna have to so if we do that, we're not gonna have any funds for that defensive side of the ball. And like I've been saying this whole time. Will and them is gonna be under a lot of pressure to hit on these draft picks, and you gotta do it defensively because that's where you need the most help at now. I don't know which part of the defense. Knew you want, the front part, but I'm thinking more to back in.

I think you gotta address that back in. But we'll see what they way the Cowboys do. But they gotta go defensively because often, I mean, if we if we bring back Dad, I think we're stacked offensively. You know, we just gotta hope them tackles. Well. Thank you Church, thank you for walking right into that. Thank you, Matt, Mary you're first, you know, the first two picks, front or back, I don't care, but you're going to have

to look at addressing those right there with these forgots. Yes, and then when we talk about okay, yeah, Kansas City's tackles got rolled on, you know what, how did they get rolled off? Because Tampa Bay had defensive line and they were stacked in the front seven. You're not stacked

in the front seven. Bro We already we listen. First of all, ain't no Devin White in the draft, like like like Church said in the text vession them linebacker say to this draft, we already currently have our outside rushers who are the ones who took advantage of the tackles. So when you're talking about we already got that. If we was in we were in the Super Bowl game and you replace some of the players that they had our we have d Law and we got Randy Gregen.

The dudes ain't going nowhere. So when you're not even talking about drafting nobody at the position that that help Tampa may win the game, I'm not picking no defensive tackle in the first round because I don't. Let me see, Nick Fairley didn't really work out that much and Oliver's my guy. But I mean as far as being a super an impact player hadn't happened. So you look at the defensive tackles, Yeah he didn't he go first, didn't go first round? Was he first round? Tacer? Now was

her first round tackle? Strip? Was Nick Fairley a first round tackle? Yes? He was. And let me tell you what the Detroit Lions did. First, they drafted and Domin consue before and then they drafted fairly the next year. Then when both contracts came up, they let the guys go and Martin Mayhugh decided that instead of drafting Aaron Donald to replace Nick Fairley, Ann and Domin consue he

would draft a tight end Eric Ebron. So they had the opportunity to go ahead and take a d tackle just because Nick Fairy go out to be a dune coming out of Auburn, And if you'd read the scouting report, you know this dude had issues. Shouldn't have drafted the guy. If you're the cat on saying you gotta taken a ten, you could trade down, but it's one of the first two rounds. Danny mcraig, you got to address this d tackle need. Man, listen, do it in a second. I'm

sticking with my offensive tackle in the first. This is a need that we need. Like you said, we got all the pieces of offense. The one thing that could all set us having one hundred million dollars receiver, a first round receiver, ninety million dollars running back is not being able to protect the quarterback, which your left tackle. That that's what that's what it set you back. Man

said that that that that will kill you. Dan Quinn is gonna find a way to get his players in the right position, because, like like I said during the season last last last it's crazy. It's it's crazy because you was with me last year and saying that the biggest part of the failure of this defense was who the defensive coordinator, all right, not necessarily the players. It

was there trying to come in. I knew it, knew he was, knew it was and knew he was not Church Me and k NEWI both agreed that the defensive coordinator was the biggest issue on this team last year. That we had some players that were trending in the right direction before he got here, and then all of a sudden, they digressed dramatically when when he arrived and we ended up with the worst defense in the Cowboys history. So now we have another guy in here who knew it.

You can keep saying that. What I'm saying is now he's not focusing on trying to run his whole team. He's focusing on what he's good at. Right, He's zeroed in on what he's good at D line and defensive coordinator with his guys in there helping him, and it's gonna be a quick turnaround. I believe it. And what did I say about dan Quinn. Okay, and now you're telling the story, but you leave it out the other

part of what I said about it. You said he wouldn't coming here, That's what you said, and he here. So I mean I was right about that. There's a lot of contexts. There's a lot of contexts. Yes, yes, No, I know. I didn't know. No, I didn't mention anything

you said about Dre. And I'm talking about what you said about the defensive coordinator and the problems that we had last year and going to say we need to just draft all defensive players, which is not is not the case because our defensive coordinator and what they were teaching was horrible. Okay, And what I've said about dan Quinn on this podcast is this, let's say one more time. So make sure you listening. Get your both's headphone on,

make sure listening. The carpenter needs tools. Dan Quinn alone just can't fix this without. You need players. Okay, you need players, and they have issues with players. The D line is an issue. These d tackles or an issue. We watched the Super Bowl here. I don't see anybody who can cover anybody in space like like like Tampa Bay. I don't see any corners. I don't see the safety, don't see Antonine. They need some players here. They're not enough guys for anybody to talk about a super Bowl

right now, all this defense. When I look at Dan Quinn who went to a super Bowl with Atlanta and went to a super Bowl, see, I don't see those type of playmakers that he had here, especially at the same position, especially at the d tackle position. Yeah, I definitely need you definitely go ahead there, go ahead, but no, no, no, you got it? Please, please please, I want to say go ahead. I want to listen. You got to say

you're right. Okay, listen. If Earl Thomas is in this draft, let me know if Cam Chancellor is in this draft. For we already said, but Man Wilson is gonna be compete for that spot because we've seen some stuff that he was able to do to be impactful. So we got we got one safety, we got one defensive tackle. So we need one one defensive tackle, one safety, and a free age of corner. We can do that with I'm picking somebody in the first round of the draft.

We can get those players. The linebackers new as much as you want to see Devin White and all those guys out there covering linebackers. Laden vander ash and Jayleen Smith are going to be our starting linebackers. So you can keep dreaming about us picking somebody in the draft in the first round or whatever, a high pick, it ain't happening. Those two guys are going to be using

something field. What free agent corner. We ain't got the bread we have, we don't have the money, We ain't got the moola to go grab one of these top tier free agent corners to help this defense come alive. That's why I think in the first round we gotta go corner we got. It's gonna be lockdown on the opposite side of Trayvon Digs. There's gonna be some haircuts given Church before before these there's gonna be some haircuts given. Yeah, listen, we can be surprised. They are going to find a way.

I don't know, I have no I don't know, but I know I know who does though, and that's Jed's fall star. Man. No, I'm not I'm not wishing. I'm not wishing. And the fact of the matter of this church, we can talk about that preside all we want to the man ain't got paid in two years, all right, So we keep saying, yeah, we sure were sure Dak Prescott Finn get paid, were sure all this, We sure all that, We ain't sure. I'm not even gonna get into what happened this week because I love I love

the big man. You know these podcasts of these shows. I'm gonna leave that alone. But Dak Presscote is not. He is not one uh going to be on this roster as a right now if you go one based off what's happened in the history of his contract negotiations. Mmm, y'all just leaving his defense out to drive. Man. I mean, tell them Church, tell leave. We're gonna be telling we're gonna be if we keep going down this path, this offensive path, we're gonna be another seven and nine, eight

and eight squad and we're gonna be struggling. We just don't have the pieces defensively right now. I mean, we got d Law on one edge. If he can get back to that twenty eighteen d Law, then sure he could be that catalyst. But that's another guy that we haven't seen really produced in the past two years. Randy Gregory. He's coming off one of his better years. But can he can he be consistent? So I mean we just got we got pieces that we need. Both of our linebackers.

Were talking about cover linebackers. Both of those guys are liabilities and coverage. I mean, yeah, they can, they can run and hitting all that stuff, but when it comes to coverage, both of those guys they're big time liabilities. So we need pieces, we need pieces of offensive Church. I love I love Church. I love Church talking about you know, picking these dudes all high in the draft, and that's the way to win, especially considering that my

man was undrafted. You know said considering considering my man was undrafted. All right, it was one of the top safeties in free agency when he was playing. He started on this Church. Who did you start next to? Church? Who did you start next to? Who did you start next to in the secondary? Who? Who? Who was the safety opposite of you in the secondary? I don't know what you're talking about exactly. I know he wasn't I know he was in the first round pick. I know

it was in the first round pick. I know that. I know that ain't what happened. So you can so we can sit here and talk about this all we want to about not being able to find these type of players. Like you said, you can find a tackle in the third round. You can find the safety in the third round. You can find a safety in the second I mean the corner of the second round like we did last year. You can find players all over the draft. You could do this as a matter of fact.

You can find them after the draft. Ain't that right? Church? You can find um after the drafting you need to. That's a lot of pressure though. You can find offensive tackle after the draft. Cowboysn't done ye the offense time? Listen Dolls? Yeah, yeah, listen, you ain't what happened with Lion Collins before the draft, the pre draft and all that was his first round getting draft picked. Great, that ain't happening again, all right, it ain't. And also he

didn't play last season either. While we're talking about Lion Collars like he was out there last year. Oh man, we knew what was gonna happen. We knew season started coming up, people are gonna start talking about offense, and we need to. We need to one of our strengths. Now, I knew this was gonna happen, man, offensive And that's why we've been past a couple of years. Church, I'm waiting on Danny to just break out some magic beans.

That's how this defense is gonna get good. Danny goes, then he and Dan Quinny gonna go out there at say even sprinkles sprinkles some magic beans, and it's gonna be a bean stock. And after being stock, there's gonna be a goose who just starts laying down defensive players golden eggs. And that's how the cowboyd defense gonna get good. While don't stop anybody for running last year, might as

well get the Infinity Gauntlet as well. They might as well get the Infinity Stones, get than those and all that to play defense, because we we we're gonna be landsome eggs. Man, don't you know on this defense, we're

gonna be landsome eggs. You know. I'm gonna go back and listen to the podcast from last year about the draft when NEWI was pick picking this first guy, and everybody was talking about Diggs and going defense, and we did that and we ended up with the worst defense in the history of the Cowboys already anyway, so you can talk about picking these players as much as you want to, all right, we saw what happened to Diggs as a result of not having the correct and defensive

coordinator and secondary coaches out there. All right, the coaches matter. You can find these guys and the second third off, I'm not saying don't pick defense at all. I'm saying, look for you a veteran guy in free agency, and then find you a safety. Keep talking about these linebackers not being at being able to cover. Dan Quick will have to figure something out with the players that he got, because once again, those two guys are going to be

the starting linebackers out there. If you, if you can look in that camera and tell me that you believe that lv E won't be starting and Zalen Smith won't be starting for this team next year, then please go ahead, and I might have to call you after the show so you can explain to me why you believe this is true. Man, Look, I'm I'm just I don't know. We're trying to win an argument here. None of us

suceeding our ground. So so Church and I can be right and we're just gonna let you, you know, continue to believe what you're gonna believe, Danny, so we can do um every time you go to church. Every time you go to church, you get the same result. Well, okay, now not in the draft, church is not gonna be right. Um, So one of the things. Let's just take another topic here, all right. Another thing that kind of I laughed at because I got a text from a friend that said, so,

Russell Wilson coming to Dallas. Do you believe it? And I had to just kind of educate him. I said, Okay, this happens all the time when they players disgruntled. Somehow his name gets connected with the Cowboys. Russell Wilson came out and basically said something that's true. Hey, I get sacked a lot. I'd really like to not get sacked. I wish my team would address this. And so now, oh, Russell wants out of Seattle and you need to trade him to the Cowboys. And I'm just sitting there shaking

my head. I like Russell Wilson. And something fans don't do enough of, guys, is look at the current contract they just paid Russ. So to get rid of Russ it would cost you a thirty million dollar cap hit. You're not gonna do a thirty million dollar cap hit if you're trying to win, You're not gonna do it. So this whole premise of eating training, of even training Russell, to me, is a non starter in Seattle and the whole Dak Seattle Russ coming to Dallas thing. I think

it's dead on arrival. What do you think? I think? You know, I think that you know that they're not getting rid of him, Like you said that capit is too crazy. I mean, he's too much. He's Seattle. He is Seattle. So the gonna let him go. I mean, there's a franchise, he's the head of the head of the room. He's the guy. They're not gonna let him go. But the bigger story to me, I think is why is he gonna throw us old line under the bus? Like that's wow to be like how you and this

what's like out of nowhere? Just yeah, man, you know, I just would I would just like to not get sacked as much. Like that's something you keep in house, that's something you you let your old line know. Like, man, look after that, after the season's done, y'all break it down over dinner, like man, look y'all got to step up, y'all play. I'm not I'm not feeling protected out there. I'm running from my life out there. I need y'all to step it up. You don't go out there and

put it out and put a story out there like that. Man, Now you got your whole offensive line looking around like man, that's how he feels about us, Like he couldn't come and tell us. He had to tell the media about it. Lad to me, it was out of pocket. And I think it's that's the biggest story here, Ay Church, I can guarantee you this the offensive lineman that he was talking about. They know exactly who they are. It ain't the whole old line. They know specifically the one or

two people that Russell Wilson was talking about. And I think it's crazy that we just finished talking about this topic and all of a sudden you got a quarterback out here say hey man, I need I need helping the offensive line. I don't care about none of that stuff. Some help, but yeah, listen at A lot of stuff is outlanders that be getting floated on Twitter and Facebook, and this is just another one of those. It makes absolutely no sense for Russell not to be in Seattle.

What they're going to do is they're going to listen to them, and I bet they go and pick them up some guys to show up the offensive line, because this isn't the problem that they've had just recently in this year. They've had this for the last few years of him being having a run around and create all these plays, all the highlight plays that you see in Russell Wilson, he has scrambled and running for his life and making these deep passes the title locket and DJ Metcalfs.

So I think they're gonna address this year, especially with him going out and expressing this publicly. I can't remember what website had it, maybe it was Warren Sharp Sharp Football Annalysis, but they spoke about the resources in terms of draft picks and free agents that they put towards their offensive line the last five six years of Russell Wilson his career and it's and it's one of the worst in football. And then the draft picks they have.

Remember they took kid out of A and M a couple of years ago, a Feddie and he was terrible, just didn't work out. So they when they tried it, they've whipped. And this dude is getting hit. I mean what he said, and I and I and Barry. I understand when you say you don't want to throw people under the bus, but you get to that point in time when, especially you know, guys only have so many hits in them. Yeah, hey man, I'm getting killed back here. And I'm sure he's told them this. This is just me.

I'm sure guy like Russell Wilson has said it and said it, and they've just gone on and done whatever they wanted to do. And finally and like, hey man, look, I'm in my thirties. I only have so many years to do this. Can I not get killed? Can I? Can I live like Tom Brady? I mean, if you ever see an example of how you want to get it done. Tom Brady went down into tamp and they displayed what you want, Tom, and they said yes, yes, yes. And while some people will say, well, hey it's Tom

Brady and guy came there were six super Bowls. He should be able to ask what he wants. But when he think about Russell Wilson and what they've done with him, and he has been a part of the Super Bowl winning team, two teams that went to the Super Bowl, I don't think it's out of pocket for rus to sit up here say that management, You know what, this is what I need because clearly I'm not able to be my best if I'm running for my life and the guys you keep going out here getting me aren't

any good. I agree with that, you know, but it comes to think, you know, how much power you know, should should a quarterback have? Should he be you know, part GM if he's bringing Like if you're Tom Brady and you go down to Tampa and basically he was part GM right there. He brought in you know, for nett Antonio Brown. I mean, he brought in all these pieces and he was basically part GM and it ended

up working out. So, you know, as as a quarterback goes, if you're you know, you got that VET status and you're up there and you're you're proving to be an elite quarterback, should you have as much power as a GM to bring, you know, as many people as you want to to feel the need to to compete as you need to do. What y'all think about that? Should they get those GM powers? Yeah? I'm not with it. I think it depends on what situation the GEM is

walking into. Right. So in Deshaun Watson's case, with all the stuff that they're going through. And you promised him that, you know when he signed his contract. Absolutely, he shouldn't have as much power as a gym, but you should. You should be able to put you know, have your input and they should be able. I have to take it seriously. Um, Tom Brady, you know the same thing, right He winning there, and he essentially is a gem.

He's seen it all, done it all, and he's played with all these players and he knows he knows what they can do and how they can help him specifically and winning and we saw that happen. All quarterbacks do not deserve the right to uh to have to have say so right because they just haven't proven it. And I think it goes team by team basis. I think you hit it right there, Danny. It's a team by team basis. And you guys have been in the locker room.

You know what quarterbacks have real respect. You know what guys actually are the straws to story the drain an organization. I think what Tom Brady went down to Tampa and said, hey, you got me here. This is what I need and he said, I need grunk. They went and got grunk. They needed to get a tackle. They used the first round pick on Tristan Works, who was sensational, and he helped him. He said, I want to Antonio Brown, even though Bruce Andrison came out and said Nana's guys, difa,

I don't want him. Tom Brady said, I need Antonio Brown. I've worked with Antonio Brown. I know how to get it done with Antonio Brown. And he was right. I think Russell Wilson and what he's done in Seattle and then you give him that type of contract, I think he's earned the right to say to them, hey, look, can I get some protection. I mean, it's what people are asking for. I think also matters in this. I

think what Russ was asking for it wasn't crazy. Aaron Rodgers wanting some help with another receiver in Green Bay. I think that is legitimate. Hey, I don't need a quarterback as much as I need. You gonna give me a wide receiver. Tonia Romo asked Jerry Jones for a little more help up front, and they drafted Travis Frederick. I thought they were crazy to draft Travis Frederick, but you know what, that turned out to be a dog on good pick and that was done. Listening listening to

the quarterback. Okay, I was there listening to the quarterback. Troy Aikman went to Jerry Jones and was like, I don't like Chan Gailey and he fired Chan Gaily. Um. I think it all depends on how much juice do you want to give a quarterback. When Drew Brees was bitched for Tom Brady, Drew Bree and Drew Brees Drew Bledsoe, Bledsoe went to Robert Craft and said, hey, man, I don't like what's going on, and Bob Kraft sending him downstairs and said you gotta work it out with Belichick,

and eventually they traded him. So I think it all depends on who's your quarterback, what it is you want from the guy. When I was in Cleveland, Bernie Kosar was used to trying to control things. He did it with Marty Schottenheimer and when he was with Bill Belichick, he tried to run things with Bill Belichick. Belichick sent in the play Bernie changed and scored a touchdown. You know Belichick did after the game, he cut it. He cut him because he's like, you're not We're not doing

this here in Cleveland. And then Bernie came to Dallas and ended up helping the Cowboys win a Super Bowl. So I think it all depends on the guy and your organization and what it is you want. So Danny, I agree one hundred percent. It's a case by case basis. Well, hey, what did you na against Travis Frederick? Oh? I just thought, well, at the time, they had the big differensive tackle who ended up going to Minnesota think was Sharif's, the big kid out of Florida. I thought they needed a defensive

tackle and they passed on. They traded down. I believe they got Frederick at the end, and I raised my hand. You know, Travis Frederick was a good player, but it wasn't anything against him the player. I just thought they needed to go with a defensive tackle at that point, and in the draft that was my I knew, he knew. I knew that. Just just to let you know I knew it. Uh, thanks for letting me know though, that you that you want to go defensive tackle over over

offensive linemen in that year. And then Jarvis Fredrick end up being one of the best pictures that you Okay, I just you know, I think I think his name was Sharif Floyd, but I think with Sharif Floyd was his name. At the end of the day, you know, you just saw Tampa Bay win a Super Bowl by dominating and holding Kansas City without a touchdown. They had a good defense. The defensive line was really good. They went up against Aaron Rodgers, they won in Green Bay.

They went they went up against Drew Brees and they won there. Down in the New Worlds. You know, defense does matter, Danny, I'm just you know, call me crazy. Oh, look at the five I look at the five Super Bowl championships. If this team is won, they won it with great defenses. I look at the two coaches who've won won Super Bowls here, there's three of them, but that the two of them that built them. They were defensive guys. So you can ignore the defense if you

want to. But I'm sorry, I just don't believe Kella Moore's going, Keller Moore's gonna design enough place for you to win a Super Bowl. I'm not going. I'm not going against the defense, man. I just when you look at Tampa Bay's defense, they were like that. They played complimentary defense because they had stars on every level of the defense. Just because you draft a defensive tackle don't mean that you're gonna find a guy like Devon White to be out there, who, to me, was one of

the most supported players throughout that playoff run. He literally changed the game every time he was on the field, pick sacks, interceptions, force phones, whatever it was. You draft the defensive tackle, it's not gonna make you look like the Tampa Bay defense. You drafted. The safety is not one of the all of a sudden, make you look like the Tampa Bay defense. They built that defense off, drafting Devin White in the first round, picking up guys

like JPP and free agency. They built that defense a different way. We are not turned into that the invader was a defensive tackle they drafted the first round. Yeah, I'm saying they built the defense like they drafted him in the first round, and then they drafted Devin White in the first round, and then they picked up guys in free agency as well. Us this year, it's not going to turn into Tampa Bay's defense by you saying late, then let's go pick up a defensive tackle in the

first round. Then, yeah, that's what Tampa Now we got that Tampa Bay style of stuff. We don't have those guys. How are you gonna stop the run? Danny? They can't stop the run. Now they kind of start to address stopping the run that people are throwing over their heads. They got to fix that too. But you want to take okay, they got they got rid of that defensive coordinator and those defensive coaches who could not teach cover three.

All right. They also got ridd of Warley and you got Digs going into his second or second year of playing in the NFL. Like we know exactly what them getting the ball thrown over the top of their head was. Like Warley was out there looking like a total It was a mistake to have him out there, and I couldn't leave they come him out there that long he was he was getting beat like a drum come coming coming close to the end of the year. They weren't getting beat over the top like that. But told you

they need somebody on the opposite side. It did. They don't have anyone, and they got into free agency. But you said, Anthony Brown, it got a real contract, so he did no, No, he listen. I apologize for my words on that because that was a mistake. I already apologize for that. And now we said that Anthony Brown is going to be the nickelback. We we agreed on that in consisus that he was going to be the third corner out the second The second corner will be

the guy from either Alabama or Virginia. Was named fairly Virginia, Virginia. Yeah, fairly okay. And then you got a certain tan out there. We got pieces right there, second round and listen to a defensive tack You can you keep picking up these keep picking up these Alabama dudes like you just hope we don't play against your Marchason Justice Jefferson each week because they went up there and ran and ran the numbers up on them. Have a solid rookie season. The

Days have a solid rookie season. I mean he missed some games, he got beat over the top at the end. They played some quarterbacks that really weren't worth much, but he played. Okay. I mean he gotta get better. Yeah, he's gonna get better. Yes, I hope so Church, I hope he does get better. And then you bring curtain in, who you know, he get his father playing in the league for a while, so he got that pedigree coming in about how to play in the NFL. So you

got that on the side. You get you you get you a better safety back there who can control everybody, you know, put everybody in the right places and can control the defense. I think you're set, man, and they just plus, Like you said, Quinn's gonna make these guys. He's gonna elevate their game. You know Nolan, he had them down and they didn't know the defense like that. So Quinn's gonna elevate you know, LV and Jalen Smith's game. So I think we got a solid defense. We just

need them two pieces. All right, fellas, let me do we need to add this little message in here since we are doing the Players Archpact to by Hotels dot com. Looking for something to change if you dinner routine, help support local Frisco businesses by choosing one of over thirty restaurants and the Star District. For more information on delivery, takeout, curbside, and died in options, visit the Star District dot Com.

Drew Pearson got into the Hall of Fame, and I'm sure you all have seen the video by now of Drew getting surprised by the big man, David Baker, the president of Pro Football Hall of Fame along with Roger Staubach's quarterback and the Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to two Hall of Famers welcoming Drew Pearson into the Pro Football Hall of Fame there. What were your thoughts when you saw that video, guys, Yeah, said, I thought it was about town. We talked about this on the show multiple times.

You know, him getting looked over and passed up, being the only person on the All Decade team to not be in the not be in the Hall of Fame, and we thought it was passed due. I'm glad that he was. He was surprising and still as excited as a guy who was being the first ballot guy. Right, You saw how much it meant to him, and really it just touched me to see him finally reached the reach the height that he had been waiting on, you know,

pretty much for his entire career. That's that's what he worked for it, that's when he worked to get to He saw itself get passed over. You know, he stayed the coursing and you know, he finally got in, and I'm happy for him. Yeah, I'm extremely happy for him. And like like you said, Mac, this was long overdue. I mean, this is a guy that was a first team All Decade team and he's the only guy that that was on the first team that didn't make it, and he should have made it. I mean, this guy

was a revolutionary receiver. And you just saw the emotion and the just raw emotion in the video when he you know, he finally got that call to be in the Hall of Fame. Long overdue. This guy should have been in there, and like you can guess, said, man, we're just happy for him that he's finally able to experience that and get into the Hall of Fame. All right, Um, last thing on Tampa, because I want Danny to be able to soak in all of this his correctness in

picking the pick. Tom Brady seven super Bowl championships more than any other franchise out there. Someone raised the question, is he the greatest player of all time in any sports? How do you feel about that? Church you? First, I gotta say, Man, if we're if we're going accomplishments, championships, just overall winning, I gotta say it's him. I gotta say Tom is the goat man overall over MJ over all those I know you got Bill Russell out there

with eleven championships. But I mean he was going against substitute teachers out there. I mean, if if we're being real, the athletes and that day he was going against or nowhere near and compare into what these guys are going through now. So I have to say his seven championships overall is just unbelievable. He has more rings than any other organization in the National Football League, and that's just

crazy in itself. And he went to Tampa Bay, a team that has been known for just being a losing organization. He went there off a no no training camp, no OTAs, no mini camp. He went there, got a new offense, new players all around them. Brought in a few few a few familiar pieces with him, but overall they're all new players around him. And he took that team not only to the playoffs, but he went to the Super Bowl and won. And then and the people he went

through to get to the Super Bowl. We're talking Breeds Rogers and then Patrick Mahomes and the defenses he had to go through. I mean, this guy is unbelievable, and I think, you know, I gotta say he's the goat of all time and that don't matter what sported in it. I think he's the goat, absolutely, and and he's forty three, so he did all that forty three years old. And I'm going with Church on this one. Yes, he's to go.

I'm a football player, so I'm biased to me. I think it's much harder to win the Super Bowl than it is to win an NBA championship, a World Series, any of the other stuff. So I'm going to to one. I'd say for every ring that Michael Jordan got, I mean that Tom Brady has, Michael Jordan has one. So if you if you tally ended up basketball turns Tom Brady has fourteen NBA championships. So yes, he's he's the

greatest of all time. It's just it's really hard to be that consistent, you know, with that one team for that many years. The Patriots is a dynasty. Then you have all these questions when he leaves at Belichick guards at Brady. The guy went out there, changed teams forty three years old, improved that he is the guy. He also, like you said, like we talked about earlier, he had input into players that came in. He lets you know,

we need this, we need that we need this. He showed you how methodical and strategic he is is on top of being the top player in the game. So I think he's done it all. He's shown. He showed a different way. I think the game will change when you see some of these quarterbacks change the teams and having the input of bringing guys from their past teams. I think you'll start seeing this one. So he's changed

the game. He had seven championships and he switched and let you know that it was him and not just Bill Belichick. So many things you said about Tom, I echo, he's fantastic. I look at a guy like Michael Jordan, and obviously I saw Michael play from from college and to see what the NBA was. I mean, I remember when the NBA was having the finals on tape delay. You know, they were showing that thing live that Michael

Jordan changed. He changed the league, He changed the culture, and I think that's something that that while Tom has been great at his sport, Tom didn't change the culture of the NBA or and even just you know, hey buying Jordan's shoes. You know, you got football players out there. And I noticed that during the Super Bowl game where Aaron Jordan cleats on a football field. That's the legacy of what Michael Jordan has left and what he's done.

And that's not something Tom is doing. And while you know everything you said about him as a football players, great, But to me, when I think about Michael Jordan's a a cultural icon which is transcended sports different sports, it's just a different deal for what he did. And I remember when Michael retired from the NBA where NBA reratings just went downsh he was just a different deal man. We've never seen anything like Michael Jordan in his ability

to connect. I mean, just remember this what we saw this summer during the pandemic, the Last Dance. I mean, people sitting around here wanting to watch something that happen twenty years ago and the amazing ratings that it got. That's how legitimate that guy still is today. Luca don of the Dallas Mavericks, he's got it. He's got a Jordan count. He never saw Jordan play, but this guy, you know, it's being twenty one years old. I want to be with Michael Jordan's company. I want to wear

his shoes. Um, that's that's a tremendous impact on the sporting landscape, cultural landscape to the United States, or if you're talking, you know, polarizing athletes and just like the icons, you definitely got to put Mike Jordan up there. I mean, he's up there with Michael Jackson as far as just people around the world recognizing this guy. So I wouldn't

put Tom Brady in that type of gad glory. But if we're talking about just winning and just winning, like just being just a winner all around, I mean, I don't know, it's kind of hard to beat what Tom has done so far. I mean, I know Jordan was undefeated in the finals, but I mean Brady went to ten of them things. I mean, this is I don't know as unprecedented. Man, I'm not sure where you put it. But this is why this is why I say, to me,

football it's a lot, it's a lot. The difficulty level of doing what Tom Brady did in his sport is I think higher than what Michael Jordan did in his sport. I just I just think it is. I think that basketball, so Michael Jordan's you know, five five guys on the court you shot go in whatever. He could just take over the game. These are things tough like as a football player of eleven guys are on the same page.

They can't get done. Tom Brady can't just throw the ball down the field to itself and kept a touchdown like the It's different. It's different to me. I think it's harder, like taking another away from basketball and and Michael Jordan what he's done. If you watch the game of football, single game eliminations in the playoffs, sixteen games, sixteen times to get it done, I think it's just

totally different. The level level of difficulty is a little a little harder for a football Tom Brady has done this all the way up to forty three and won the Super Bowl at the age of forty three after switching teams during the pandemic. And we sat up here we talked about Michael and I and and hit me and that I forgot to mention just Tiger Woods, the dominance that Tiger had and taking it out, taking a sport that was on if he had a ten page paper that was on page nine and put it on

the front page. So so for me, Danny, when I when I think about your greatest of all time, it's your sport, but also just what else you did within it to take your sport to a whole different level. And Tom's fantastic, but I mean Michael took basketball worldwide when and I remember when Dirt retired, how how he I mean, they brought out Larry Bird, they brought out

Scottie Pippen and Charles Barkley. Those guys all spoke about that dream team in nineteen ninety two when they went to the Olympics, and that was the first time they you know, they really took pros and they put them internationally. And now you look at what we have today, Luka Donci and all the great player Janis at a ten kopo. This spawn from Jordan. When you watch when you watch golf, guys go out there with Jordan Cleats. I mean, that's

that's crazy, man. When you think about that football players wearing Jordan's baseball players, you know, David probably rolling Jordan Cleets out there. I mean just Tom Brady, has he has he become that worldwide icon? Has he become that that's you know, I think those are two different categories. Yeah, yeah, because if there's there's not gonna be on international football,

like like overseas. Basketball is a thing like football is an American sport, right, So you can say, like Jordan went over there and changed the game, and you saw this and did all this. Football ain't never going outside of America the way that basketball is. No matter how many Super Bowls Tom Brady wins, and no matter how culture changing he was, that is going to be an

American sports. So I think it's that that's different. Yeah, basketball had the opportunity to go do that and being the Olympics and all that stuff, and it ain't gonna Football is not gonna be an Olympic sport because that's something we do here in America and really specifically in America. But that's what I talk about the greatest of all time. What you're able to then take what you do and spread it. I think that that to me, to me, when I think about that, that's what the kind of

criteria I put in. And when you talk about the say of Michael Jackson, you talk about the Beatles, people that were able to just change fundamentally change the way what they do is and how it's done. Did you've rewritten and you said, okay, there's okay, here's here's I'll go with what Howard Bryan once wrote about Hank Aaron versus Barry Bonds, how Barry Bonds became the all time home run leader. He said, there is a record holder

and then there's a standard bear. And when I think about the greatest of all time and what you've done, I think of standard bears like a Muhammad Ali and Michael George, people that are taken and it become really some of the most famous folks in the entire world across the planet. That's what I think of him. And I think Tom Brady's sensational in the NFL. You can make the argument he's the greatest football player of all time.

But when I think about the greatest athletes of all time, I think about how they've gone beyond their sport and that's that's something that I think Jordan did and even Ali did. I can't say that Tom Brady's done that. If you put it in that category, then I would

have to agree with you on that. If we're you know, we're talking about icon status and how he you know, how people I've reached, you know, other cultures across the world, I would definitely have to put you know, Jordan up there, you know, the Tiger Woods of the world, the Muhammad Ali. I would have to put him up there in that category. But um so, But to me, like I said, I go back to it thinking, you know, I think it's

two different, separate categories. I think if we're talking about specifically just winning and the championships and being that guy for that long, for twenty some years after, you go with Brady. But if you're talking about a world right now, you know, icon polarizing athlete just going off just athletics and what he's been to the game, then I would

I would have to go Michael Jordan on that one. Listen, hey, listen, hey, don't fool y'allselves now, right because it sounds like you're saying, uh, Tom Brady is not internationally recognizable, all right, That ain't true. People say people recognize Tom Brady. But listen, I understand

what you're saying, Nuie. I just think, you know, you know, to to Tom Brady and in the NFL, I think, man, it's such a domestic sport that I don't see it ever being changed the way that basketball is and some of these other sports to where you could take this stuff to to to the UK and all that and then get other players and other leagues and be able to do the same thing that the NBA has done. I don't I don't think you'll ever see anybody be

able to change the NFL that way. But I think Tom Brady has changed the way that some of these quarterbacks and free agents will will be looking at how they change teams and how they bring their players to the team with them and having a little bit more say so and what they do when they do swiss these teams because they see Tom Brady do it, just like Lebron James changed and when he went to Miami. I think that Tom Brady just did the same thing

in the NFL. Yeah, and I know we we we spoke about Bill Russell a little bit, but it's pretty amazing when you think about how Bill Russell became the first black head coach in the end yay, and was the coach of the self. That's why he was playing as a player. Coaching it went to championship any sport. But you know what, I'm gonna become the first black dude to do it, and I'm gonna get all these white guys to say it's cool you can tell me what to do and you can dictate my time, and

we're gonna go win the championship. Um Man, that's some trailblazing right there. That's some trailblazing right there. But but it is, it's it's pretty and that's my DEFINITIONES is different than other people's and that's why I kind of brought it there. And like I said, you guys are younger than I am, and I remember when I grew up, the NBA was not you know, the NBA wasn't bigger than the NFL, wasn't bigger than baseball, it wasn't bigger

than college football. And for it to become as big as it is today, um, it was Michael Jordan really helped take it Sky Magic and Michael saved the league, I mean magic and Larry Bird saved the league and then Michael took it to a whole nother stratosphere which it operates today and it's it's absolutely loved. All right, Hey, that's an hour, Um boy, Blue Bosun is always is who back? Yeah I don't see yeah, I don't see him. Well, okay,

his chair is empty. I got nervous, all right, So we'll be back next week to have our disagreement somewhere. But we're all in agreement that JJ Watt to the Cowboys is not something they should do, right. Nah, absolutely, Okay, we agree. Okay, yeah, okay, so we agree no jj Watt. We it's two verses. One on what to do with the tenth pick in the draft. Danny wants an offensive tackle Church and I believe it should be a different

defensive player. So we'll continue to mine through that. And um, Danny, you're gonna have to give me a name at some point in time or who you want to see at ten. Penei Seul from Oregon is not going to be there at ten. So if you want to from nor stop it. We got we got CD dam last year, so I mean, I mean, so it's not impossible. Well, nobody thought seen Lamp was gonna be there when we picked them. Is

that is that? Is that true? Okay? I did not think that seventeen sixteen general managers National Football League past and Sea I did not see that at all. Nope, So so you never know. Also, and we went seven. Nah, we Church, we we got. We got the defensive player that you wanted though, Nah, but we ain't We ain't. We should have went back to back defensive. That's that's another thing. That's a story for another day. I'm telling we need we should have went back to back defense,

back to back. But you know, hey, Monday, they'll listen to your boy one day, all right. That is the players on track about hotels dot com. We had fun again from our SWBC mortgage home studios. Knew we scrugs for Danny McCray and Barry Church. We'll see you next week eleven thirty Central. Tell your friends about it. Spread the word, all right, that's the best thing you can do for the players on Spread the word right on Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio.