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hold out here. But it's gonna heat up just a little bit, probably get up to sixty eight maybe seventy of a high today. I here in southern California. Gentlemen, How are we doing back in Texas? Man? As you can see, I'm back in Dallas, Texas, and I'm sweating a little bit on here. Knew you had the audacity to say it's gonna heat up to about seventy I can't believe you said that, man, while we all here sweating crazy out here. Man, this is ridiculous. Yeah, let

me tell you something. I'm jealous. Man. For some reason, we decided to go to the zoo this weekend. Ed eleven am in the morning on Sunday, and goodness Grace, we paid for it. We paid for it new It was up for about forty five minutes before we found out that that that that's not the right move. And so it's it is hot. It ll out here. There's barely any shade out there. Bro the a the air wasn't moving. It was sticky, and the air was stick bro.

I was like, man, this ain't right. My little daughter was drinking all the water, killing the drink water like that. He would just killing water. I'm like, yeah's time to go. They had a little mistress, the little air mistress on Bro. The water that was coming out of that was hot. All the animals were sleeping. It was in the shade. Man, it was too but even the animals tapped out. Even the animals tapped out. October. Okay, there there's your there's your zoo tip. All right, take your kid to the

zoo in October. That's a good time to go. Weather's nice, animals around and it's enjoyable for you. And you can go in the morning time. Uh well, especially while you know, because you're your daughter's out in school yet well, everybody else is in school, so October nice time, So go ahead and plant it around there. So that says your pro tip. There's your proparenting tip right there. From should I should I should have asked you before I went,

I should have asked you. Mike McCarthy just spoke, and those watching us on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, you saw it. Malik Hooker. That's a guy that you all have spoken about. You two guys are for safety. So Malik Hooker is working out right now, according to Mike McCarthy, and he says no roster move has been made yet, so they haven't signed him, but they are. They're interested, and look, I anticipate Hooker being, you know, a member of this

team now. He's a former first round pick, had a couple of nice years with the Cults, but injuries have derailed his career. They want as much competition as they can get back there to say spot, there no guaranteed spots right now. I think Donovan Wilson's obviously a guy that Mike McCarthy likes. You spoke about him very favorably in the press conference. But Malie Cooker looks like he's going to get an opportunity to show the Cowboys what he can do. Church your thoughts, well, look, I think

it would be a good move. I mean, as far as competition is concerned, it would bring another guy in there who's technically a whole safety. He doesn't really do a lot in the BOSS, but he's a whole safety, something that we haven't had here with the Cowboys in a long time. So it brings competition for Kaz back there. And this is a guy he's been in the league. He's a veteran in the league, so he knows the ins and houts of playing the position, and when healthy,

he's a boiler. I mean, we've seen it in his rookie year. He had three interceptions right off the bat when he was healthy. But that's that's the question with him. Like you said earlier when you were talking, he's gone through a couple of injuries that have derailed his career so far, so bringing him in would be another kind of injury prone guy. We already had Kaz coming off in Achilles. We got Kat O'Neill coming off in Achilles, so we're already kind of fielding a battered and bruised

defense right now. But I guess as far as competition is concerned, I wouldn't mind seeing him come in there and duke it out with Kaz for that whole safety responsibility. But like I said, I mean, this is another injured gay we're technically bringing on world we're thinking about bringing on. So I'm not so sure about it. But as far as competition is concerned, it should be a good one. Yeah. Look,

I feel the same church churches knew it. You know, one thing about the Cowboys, We're gonna bring in some injured guys, all right, we're gonna draft them, We're gonna bring him in the free agency, and then we're gonna try to get him fixed up with my man Brett Brown, and we're gonna see how it turns out. Same thing

going with Jaymon Smith and Sean Lee. So I mean, you know, if you listen to what guys were saying about how Britt Brown was able to get back back and get jard Win back, then I have some confidence in them being able to do the same thing with Hooker once he gets his hands on. And as far as competition, this is amazing. I mean, competition brings the best out of everyone, and it also stops some of

those players that are already here from getting complacent. Man, it pushes them to be the best them that they can be throughout this training camp to try to earn that position. So to me, it's great. I think this is a great start to us, you know, starting that top ten defense by forcing the competition on these guys and letting not letting anybody get too comfortable. So I love it. I can I ask you'll both a question.

Do y'all think we have room enough to keep both as like a death thing or it has to be one or the other as far as Kazy and Hooker's concerns the hands, that's if so listen, I think that's tough. Even though that even though you added, you know, the seventeenth game, I still think that's tough. I think you need to carve out a certain position for whoever earns that spot and let them know that they earned it

and it's theirs to move throughout the season. So you don't have that pressure on that guy thinking he's gonna get a spot taken. He's not able to play free, free and loose, so I think they let him battle it out, figure out who's the best of that position, and and and let them go throughout the season as a starter at that and let the other guy walk. I think that's the best way to do it, and that's the best way to show that. You know, when when you fight to compete for a spot and you

earn it, that the Cowboys going to reward you. I agree with everything you said. You've got preseason games, we've got practices, so let's see what happens. The pads come on tomorrow and it's time. It's showtime. It is showtime. I like the fact that there are no sacred cows around here. Want a job, go out here and perform j Ron curse. If you're j Ron curse, you gotta sit up here and saying, Okay, they're bringing out somebody else here from my spot, so I need to sit

out here and show what I can do. Um this defense and actually this football team, in my opinion, the last five six years and had too many guys who just well, I've got a spot and there's no competition. You know, I'm sorry, there's no there's some big championship

banners being raised around here. People need to go out and earn their positions, and I think this has been a positive move that Mike McCarthy has made as they've gone into this this year, especially with the defense as poorly as it performed last year, people need to show that they can do something here. Are you giving it to Mike McCarthy? Are you given that to day? Huen? I think here we go, there we both. I think that you know, look, okay, yes, I've I've been tough

on McCarthy, just just a little bit. That was my first question to Jerry Joe Sunday night and our one on one interview on on NBC five. I went, I went after McCarthy, but it's something that he's talked about. And obviously Dan Quinn having spent so much time with Pete Carroll and his you know, his whole thing every day. This is good And I'm sorry. Is there anybody on this defense that we should say, hey, they're a sacred cow and they're just fine. I don't think we can

really truly say that. So you're six and ten for a reason, and so you make sure you don't go six eleven. You need to make sure that guys are out here knowing that they've got jobs to play for it. I think they've set themselves up in a very good way on all three levels of this defense where there is competition. You've got guys who've got to play for contracts here. If people are thirsty, you got a bunch of thirty and hungry dogs out here. Then I think

they have an opportunity to be a playoff team. I think they must be a playoff team, uh, for for Mike McCarthy to return next year. In my opinion, yeah, I think you're right. Or what they did with that, there's all three levels. I mean, look what they did with the interior defensive line. They brought those rookies in and they shipped Antwoine Woods out. And then at the second level at the linebacker position, you got the first

round pick in Parsons. You also brought in Cox. And in the secondary you got you know, Kelvin Joseph over there, you got Anthony Brown, you got Jordan Lewis, I mean, Trayvon Diggs out there. I mean it's it's it's loaded in a sense where they're gonna have to duke it

out to get those starting jobs. I mean, we'll see if those guys can when they when they do get the starting job, if they're able to perform as well, but right now, the depth they have there for this competition, I think you guys are saying that it's going to bring the best out of everybody out there, and hopefully we feel deep best defense we can going into the season, because, like I said, if we're just the middle of the pack, if everybody stays healthy and we're just the middle of

the pack defense, I think we can do big things here in Dallas. Listen, listen, you know I gotta give my guy shout out anytime I can. All right, there is one defensive player that is a quote unquote sacred cow. Nui. Would you like to get who that is? Oh? My good special, my special team Ace. Nobody can take his spot. His spot is guaranteed. He's gonna be out there being then envy well hopefully being the MVP of the defense, but making some plays out there to change the game.

So you know we got one guy, all right, you're talking about? Good with you? Dang right. I just wanted y'all to say his name, all right, say he is the guy? All right, He's a sacred cow. His spot is locked that he don't have to do anything to make the squad. He is ready to go and We watch that on film all last season, and I think he's gonna be better this season. Okay, I'll give you the that's fun. That's fun. Let's take our first break right here on the players Lines on Dallas Cowboys dot

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of the Danna's Cowboys to the players loud. Here we are players Lounge. I'm here in Oxnar, California and New Scrubs. Former Dallas Cowboys safety's buried Church Danny mccraige joined us. They are back in Texas, but overall the second show. As we begin marching towards the first game of the year, the Cowboys against Tampa Bay on NBC Sunday Night Football. We also got the Hall of Fame game coming up August fifth. So your boys are back here talking Cowboys

at three Amigo Negros doing our thing. We ads on tomorrow. I'm excited. Pads are on tomorrow, Pads popping, pads popping. You guys played this league, so tell the folks who are watching and listening how different it is from the underwear Olympics to when the pads start popping tomorrow in Ox. No, man, are you you're gonna give it to me Church, Let me tell you the boy. The boys are separated from the men when the past come on. All that talk

that you did. You see guys out there winning the weight room Olympics and lifting and doing all this stuff, all that comes to fruition. Now when the pass come on, we're gonna really get to see if you have it in you to make those hits and make those same taples, take those same same angles that you had when you didn't have pads on, knowing that it's possible that you might get ran over, and you got to explode from those hips to make that tapple. It's a totally different thing.

When you rushed against Tyrant Smith with pads on, It's gonna be a totally different thing. Everything's different, everything's more intense, And we're gonna learn a lot about these players with these ads on. And I just can't wait to hear aybody from Newity. Man, this is this is gonna be exciting. Yeah, I think b Back, you hit it right on the head when it when it comes to putting the pads on, it's it's it's definitely a different a different vibe out there.

I mean, and you got guys when you're in like you said, knew the underwear Olympics. You got you know, Zeke coming through the hole, and you got this guy feeling it when he has on shorts and everything, and just to him, but on he's going in there head strong. He's about to blow Zeke up. I'll go I would have let him up. But when we get the pads going on and Zeke gets that forward lead rolling, is he going to fill that hole with the same ferocity

that he had when they were just in short. So that that that part of the game is definitely a big difference. But but that first day when you get those pads on, I mean, it seems like no matter if you're you're a rookie or if you're in your eighth, ninth, or tenth year, I mean you're you're that first day's kind of always that excitement. It's that all man, we got pads on, we get to pop a little bit.

I can't wait to get out there. But once you're in your veteran years, it's that second third and fourth padded practice in the row that you're like, man, that take these pads up off me. But that first day you're all, he's gonna be excited about it, and you get your little inside run, you get to pop a

little bit here and there. But I will say there's always that one guy for each team, that one guy that's just that's just a tone setter, that's just like, man, look, we're all gonna be brother in law and today we're just gonna be tagging off when we get in the hole. But there's always that one gay that like just goes od, that just just treats every practice like it's a game scenario.

And for Matt when when I was there, d Mac, I don't know if it was the same for you, but it was de Marco Murray like no matter what, no matter what was going on, we could be half walked through with pads on. This guy's lowering his shoulder and lower in the head trying to run through people. So that there's always that one tone setter for each team that just he just don't matter what he's going o d with the pads on. But old like I, like Danny said, can't wait to get it cracking. See,

I promise, I promise. Right when you finished, I was about to say, I remember when y'all used to be tearing the marco coming through the hole. I'm talking about lifting him, about lifting him up his feet and all that. So I don't want to hear nothing about him being the tone setter. Y'all was out there and they embarrassed that man. So then he started dropping his should on everybody that he could, after y'all knocked him on his ass a couple of times. So now it's it's always

some guys, all right in churches, churches. One of those guys who knew he was he was a sacred cow, all right. So after here we go, after the first and second padd in practice, he was like, look already, got my spot. I'm good, Get these pads off of me. The difference between him and the guys that are out there now is they spotted on the line. So they need to take take advantage of every opportunity that they can to show that they're gonna get out there and

strike somebody, because it could be they lasting. They might not be on the roster room. They don't. Zach Martin as well, he was another dude that just was od when it came to the pads, you would pull it. He would be pulling. Guards were like, all right, we're just gonna we're gonna get this little thud up here so I can set the edge. Man. There's just number of times he just ran through me like it was just a train, Like I was just a hay bill on a train track or something like. That's another guy

that od when it came to pass. Man. All right, So so now I want the truth that this is why people tune into the play as lines right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Tell me, each of you in Church, you go first. Who was somebody who looked good in the underwear Olympics, But when the pass came on, they worked that guy. They've worked that guy. You're gonna put me all blow both of you. You're tight. You're

both tight. Now I want names. I want names. Go ahead, Church, Oh man, I'm gonna go ahead, but say this because I think y'all would agree with me for the most part. But I think the dude that was like, man, who is like this dude came out? Man? Who is this guy running a rock crazy? He's cutting on the dimes. Who is this guy? And I would have to say it would be Joseph Randall. He was a running back

for us, you know, the guy. He was another guy he like when when the when the pads were off and were just in shorts, he was routing people up, cutting people this way and that way. But when the pass came, oh, it was just it was just a little bit of just a drop off. Not mador but just a little bit of a d But since you put me on a spot, that's that's who I chose as my as my situation. Then running back out of Oklahoma State, the guy who said when DeMarco Murray left it,

he left a lot of meat on the bone. That yeah, he was talking a lot. He was talking about DeMarco won the NFL Offensive Player of the Year award. So and when he got his opportunity to beat the number one guy, it did didn't last very well. And now and they gave and they gave him a plenty of shots, all right, he gave plenty of shots. My listen, my guys gonna be fourth round pick coming out of I forgot what school it was like Independent university or something

like that. My man, No, not do not listen, not because he wouldn't. Yeah, it was a part of your fraternity, wasn't. He knew it. Yeah, but but listen, let me do this. Not from the standpoint of like he was scared to get out there and make the play. It just didn't

translate to him actually making as many plays. And it looked like he would when we were in shorts and shirts, like he was out there looking like a straight monster, fast, can jump, he was quick, taking the right angles and all that when we were in just passing shorts, and then you see it when you get out there on the field. It was just a little bit different. Sometimes it didn't like you have enough weight behind him to make some of those tackles, and you know, he kind

of floated around a little bit. But that's still my guy. But my honest opinion is that's that's how I remember. That's all right, that's that's true. That's a true assessment right there. I definitely give you that. It didn't help that he had the number twenty runs at twenty seventy had ye did he had the unlucky twenty something. Yeah, don't don't help that at the situation at all. Know your turn well, I mean, I can't assess it the

way you guys do because you're out there. I'm just you guys, you know, so, so I'm not I'm not out there in a practice, you know, getting routed up anything. So you guys are are out there doing it and seeing it. So that's why my opinion on this really done cow because I don't know, I don't know. Check him out Church, That's why I check out winning for a reason. Man, knew it. You out there giving us all the updates to a note pads on right now, you're going to give us the updates to the guys

and how they look different when the parents come on. No, no, no, I don't want to hear that you've been watching You've been covering football for too long to du ducking dogs that question, because I know you sitting out with your buddies. You you've had these conversations like, man, I showed nothing, that guy was gonna be something else, too bad, because okay, I'll give you a guy. I'll give you a guy.

And this was before your time. Danny Amndola, Danny, Danny Amondola came out of Texas Tech and he was just lighting it up. And then they had him on hard knocks and I mean the guy caught everything first preseason game in San Diego, guys fumbling, can't catch anything, had at that had a bad camp, and he's what I call an all Oxnard guy, you know, and they should get in Santa Joe called the all Alamodome guys. Where these guys ended up looking good, but when it came

time the preseason games, they couldn't do anything. And I'm honestly very surprised that Danny and Danny Amondola had the career he did winning the Super Bowls he did because when he was here with the Cowboys, this was a guy who looked good in the underwear Olympics, but when the lights came on, he was just underwhelming all the way. Listen, true, you remember Teddy Williams. He was the same win oh yeah, from San Antonio, and Teddy was different. Though Teddy had

to play, he had to play. He had to play football, I think since high school or something. He was really fast. Dave camp on him, took a chance on him, Danny and Mendola. Actually I got to give him some love because he is a Houston, Texas product. His dad coached me in high school, and he actually did end up having a good career. But I know what you're saying about the Cowboys. He staying with the Cowboys and did

not look like it said that he had with the Patriots. No, not at all, not even if with the Rams, he had a better step with the Ramps. So he went from the Cowboys of the Eagles. Finally got his legs underneath them with the Rams, and then the course went to the Patriots and helped help when some Super Bowls. And then last year he was up there and done Detroit and that failed Matt patricia effort that they had

up there. But that was one of the guys that I clearly remembers that he could not get it done. And he said, we used to. We had the US have the media joke all the time by the All Oxnard team and the all All Alamo Don team where they looked good there. You put them out there in the preseason games when it mattered, and these guys could not get a lot of guys couldn't get it, especially the kickers, and punished. That was the other thing too. I've seen a lot of specialists through the years look

good out here. Then when it came, you know, when the lights came very swift to you said can you do it? When the band is playing? Because Barry's like, hey man, these guys look good right here, we're practicing the Norman. There's nobody around. All of a sudden we fill up the seats and the band is playing, and these guys can't get it done. So tomorrow, for me, when the Pats come on, I'm gonna be looking at

the D line. I want to see what Carlos Watkins and what Nevin Gallimar are gonna be able to do because we could talk all day long about this defense being top ten. If they can't stop the run, there's a problem. And for me, I'm gonna be looking at that. What's Terrell Basham gonna do. I already see some really nice things from Randy Gregory, but I need to look and see the interior. What are these guys gonna do there? Because they have got to stop the run to be good.

You start to look at the kind of running backs and teams they play this year. For me, right out the gate, you start with Leonard Frenette and Tampa Bay. If Leonard Frenette ends up, you know, take care of his COVID thing. You've got to You've got to establish yourself a lot better than being a thirty first run defense in the National Football League. So that's what I want to see. Ezekiel Elliott does look good. This offensive

line seems like it's healthy. So it's an excellent opportunity to see exactly what this D line can do when these pads start popping to brow and be looking forward

to seeing it. And in all reality, you know, that's where you're gonna get your most bang for your buckers watching that D line offensive line go at it once the pads gets on because you know, as a secondary player, even in the second in the linebacking corps, once that running back breaks through for the first site, you know, maybe eight yards if you're not there, you're kind of just tagging him off. Whereas that offense and that defensive

line they're banging. They're really banging like it's a game. They got their one on ones going on, you got inside runs. So it'll be a good opportunity to gauge the level of town we have on that defensive line versus that great offensive line that we have. Yeah, you know what I'm looking forward to the most seeing the

health of the offensive line. I need to see those two tackles be able to get out there, go against Randy Gregory, go against taking loans against Nevil got him or whoever they're going to get and see if they're able to hold up. Because remember LC didn't even do training camp last year, so I need to see him be able to get out there. And the same thing with Tyren Smith. You say it looks like the old twenty eleven Tyren Smith. You ain't see that. I want

to hear. No, I want to hear. I want to see the twenty eleven Tyren Smith with pads on him, getting them paused on you, not letting you go nowhere. I want to see that guy. So NEI, Y'a'll be looking forward to you telling me how he looks tomorrow.

So Tank has been working out on the side, so I don't anticipate Tank being involved at all tomorrow when the pads hit, and I'm gonna be also very interested he bring that up, and we'll ask McCarthy tomorrow and his presence, how much work are you going to give guys like Collins and Smith because they had they've limited ELC a little bit out here and put a lot

of guys in working that right tackle spot. But I sat down with him one on one, and he told me he feels good, he's excited, he feels like he he felt guilty last year letting the team down, you know, by not playing l season. Great shapes out here doing interviews with a shirt off like Tyrant. I mean, these guys, these guys don't look like you're They don't look like the old nineteen nineties offensive lineman and the Cowboys had

one Super Bowls when these guys are cut. So I ain't gonna be eager to see exactly how much work they give some of these guys who are coming back off injuries, and if they limit them at all. But I just can't tell you how excited I am to see the offensive and deep and lines be able to hit each other. I think this is where football is won, and it's where the Cowboys, in my opinion, can have their biggest improvement as a team. If they could be better on both sides of these lines, then they can

erase six and ten pretty quick. But if they have injuries, if they can't get better and they're not able to do what they need to do up front. It's going to be a problem. And if you're a fantasy football player here, I'm telling you right now, Ezekiel Elliott is somebody you need to go ahead and seriously think about putting on your roster because I expect this young man to have a really nice year, especially if the offensive linemen are healthy. I think Zeke can have a real

nice year. I've seen the screen game here. I'm like shaking my head. They're wow, okay, where's this been? So Kellen Moore has been working on trying to find ways to get Zeke the ball. He caught one pass down the scene. There was a talk on touchdown said, I'm looking at this kid that he's not just talking about having a good season. We've seen him put the work in. We're watching it out here on the field. So these pads fly tomorrow, you know, they get a couple of

holes open here. I'm really eager to see what he can do. And at the same time, on the other side, you know, is Lake vanderash is Jal Smith. Are they ready to come up here and meet him in the hole. It's gonna be fun, man, We're real quick. Neid do you do you feel as though do we still have do you still believe that this defense can only go as far as DeMarcus Lawrence can take it? Or do

you think we've had enough. We've added enough talent, we got enough depth on this defense to where even if he doesn't perform to where he has in the past getting double digit sacks being all over the field, we can still feel a solid defense overall. Okay, And you know how I feel. He's trying a twenty million dollars contract. You need if you need to bring some results with it. And for the past two seasons, DeMarcus Lawrence has not played up to the player who got the twenty million

dollars contracts, but he needs to respond. Randy Gregory looks good at here. Randy Gregory feels good, and you guys have played this game at a high level. And when you're in the right frame of mine and you're feeling good, you can do some things. I mean there's sometimes, man, they try to run some reverses here and Randy Gregg he's like, yeah, no. So if Randy Gregory can be to be a dominant player and tank, Lawrence can return

to what he's doing that's a help. I'm still gonna I'm gonna keep saying it's a hammer at home all day long. These defensive tackles have to be better. They have to be able to stop the run. And if they're able to stop the run, and you're two defensive ends, do what live up to what we think they can be. They'll being improved defense. But you just can't have the

Cleveland Browns running three hundred yards on you. You can't sit up here and have all these guys setting career highs and season highs against you like they were last year running the football. It has to start up front. For the Dallas guy was defensively and if the if the front is working, then the back is going to be a lot improved and they're not gonna have as much pressure on them. But they've got to fix this. They've got to fix a d line. It's not sexy

to talking about. People want to talk about the fantasy football guys, but this defense last year was so bad. And I think dan Quinn already just talking to guys. Guys are plying in to dan Quinn and I've been you know me, I think I should be skeptical and I've been you know, last week, I was live to last year, so I need to see how it Dan

quiet improves. Dan Quinn said he's not running that same Atlanta defense because look, let's be honest, man, but like these Atlanta defenses were these great defenses, like oh, I mean there was no legion of boom and all in atl So let's see how he uses his pieces. And I love the fact that they're gonna bring in a guy like Hooker to say, hey, look, we're not exactly where we want to be. Let's figure out how we get there. Let's bring in another players. So I'm all

about what I'm seeing so far. Dan Quinn is a guy who talks a good game. Right now, he seems like a guy that you want to buy in. But it's just talk. I gotta see it. So in all past our popping them mark, we're get to see a little bit of are you are you? Are you getting closer to believing that they're getting in that top ti an area on defense? No, No, there's no way, no, because I haven't I haven't seen that. I have not seen the d line work yet, So you know how

I feel. Danny thirty first against we also until i's fixed, until I see some guys and then you know me. Last year they ran out down Terry Poe and Tristan Hill. Let's see if Gallimore who started games last year. Let's see if Carlin. Let's see what they do up from uh also a Dickey user from from UCLA. He's made some nice ways. Let's see how this D line is working and how Dan Quinn is able to get that

role he spent. He spends a lot of time with the D line when you watch the practices here, and that's that's where he cut his teeth and I love to see that. I gotta see improvement right there. And until I do, you can't talk about top ten D. You can't go first against the run and just say, hey man, I think it's gonna be a top ten. I gotta see Bill Parcels, you have a great line. All I can go by is what I see. Okay, tell me this, what do you see in the secondary?

Since because the secondary is less less dependent on what you see once they have pads on, and more of what you see when they get in seven on seven and when they do past Kelley play extra pass and all that stuff. What do you see from the back, from the back end of the defense that would either say, hey, man, I think we're better or we got a lot of growing to do. I love what I've seen from dis. I like the way he wants to compete, that he's not afraid to get out there to talk and just

you know, hey, I'm ready. So I like that about him. I asked Dan Quinn at the press conference. I said, Daniel last year there in Atlanta used the first round pick on a corner to kJ Terrell out of the climpse. I said, watch you pass on Dicks and have you spoken to him about that? Then I asked Digs, I said, you know you talk to Dan about him not taking He's like, no, I haven't, but I want to, he said, I want to ask him about that. He said, watching

Dick's compete, he's into that. You know, that's one of Dan's so he loves the way he competes. And he also just said it's one of those things as a coach, it's just different when you see a guy out here. So he's got to see him, you know, every day versus just kind of looking at film and watching workouts, and he's a press by what he does, what he is doing there. So Diggs is gonna be a good player. And I know I said it before, I'm gonna say it again. Here's a second contract guy. I think this

is a second contract guy. And the way he spends his offseason working on getting better, working with his brother who's an All Pro receiver, Stefan Diggs. With the Bills, he talked about he had his hands on fourteen balls last year. He's like, man, I only got three picks. That's not good enough. I need to be better at it. So I love his competitiveness. I think Anthony Brown is trying to make people remember the Hey, I'm not chopped liver out here. I'm trying to compete for a spot.

Boss Man Fat's got a little bit of work to do, but that's okay. N Sean Right, Let's see what he does when the pads come on. He's been impressive so far. I like what I see, but let's see what happens when the pads come on. And the same thing for boss Man Fat, who they took in the second round of the quarter position. So once again, with the pads beyond, it's gonna be real interescing Malik Turner, number seventeen wide

receiver the Cowboys from Illinois. He's made some nice plays, but let's see how he does when you catch this all and there's a lit put on you. Let's see how this goes here with the hats are there. So so I'm very interested to see how a couple of guys look. But I'll say this, overall, Danny, I think you should feel good that the defense already looks better.

They look better, they look like they have a clue that they want to do out here last year where people were not buying in to Mike Nolan at all, and that's a good sign. That's a good sign because you know, it's not like our defense is going against you know, some whole hum offense over there. I mean, we got and if we stay healthy, I think one of the top ten offenses out there with all those receiving options, tight end, running back. But we got out there.

So if they're performing well against our offense, now granted, like you said, there's no pads on, but if they're you know, performing well together and there's not a lot of busted plays out there, I mean, Danny, you could be onto something. I highly doubt it, but you could be onto something about this top ten. It's a hard job. That's a lot. That's you're asking for a lot, man, you're asking for no listen, let me tell you something, y'all. Y'all just sung because y'all, y'all drunk that kool aid

last year. I didn't drink it, you know what I'm saying. So I'm okay. I'm okay because I was right last year and I believe I'm gonna be right again this year. And y'all just scared to put your toe in because you already know you got burned one time. And that's fine. You know it's gonna take y'all a little time to get on board. But I'll hold a seat for y'all on his on his bandwagon, real quick, real, real quick. Man. I've seen seen some reports out there. How's my boy

Double G doing out there? He looked like he was slanging the rock a little bit and that in that video you sent the So has he been doing it or is nobody really noticed Double G out there? I told him I don't think the backup Dallas Cowboys on the roster, But I don't think that's back Wow. That's how they the whole. I look at Garrett Gilbert as this is back in the day. It's a girl you you guys went out on dates, you didn't call your girlfriend. You guys had good times, you know that kind of thing,

because you were always looking for the upgrade. And that's how I look at Garrett Gilbert. G gilbs a guy that got him out here. Now he's the dude, Cooper Rush. They are there, you know, that's the guy. They're dating them. They feel good, we like you he that that. But if somebody else gets out there on the open market that McCarthy feels like it's better will mclago going they pulled the trigger, then you know a buy double g

by Cooper Rush. That's how I feel. I don't feel like these guys are sitting here like, oh yeah, this is the guy. The Nucci's gonna be on the team. You know, benj Nuci's gonna be But but but I do not feel as though Dack's backup is currently on this football team. That answer your question, That answer your question. That looks okay, it looks it looks, it looks okay. You know, it looks fine. But I just don't think that's I think they're gonna be They're gonna be looking,

They're gonna search the way room. Hopefully, well, hopefully we don't have to know. Hopefully we don't have to see it back up in there. You know, hopefully, my boy, you know, Dak stays healthy throughout the year. But I think it could be a solid option, you know, Church, don't don't worry. Church, You're gonna get a lot of time to see double g Okay, you get a lot of time during this preseason to see Double gets the reps. So don't you worry. You'll know by the end of

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sixty six to Greece. I had to put on this light light shirt here underneath the underneath the little T shirt and wear some short tear. I'm feeling good though here at Hawkst Co. Fellas. I wish you were here. Wish I can have you guys go eat at the harbor with me and Andrews seafood and just chill. Man. It's a good time to be It must be nice, church,

must be nice. Heck down here. Okay. First off, Church, you've been traveling all across all across this country, Okay, so I can make some time to pack it on up and come on out here because you over here all all sorts of spots. Okay. So the fact that you're not here, I told y'all. I told ya. All y'all have to do is go to hotels dot com. Look, get you right, They'll get you the lowest rooms possible. I mean, it makes traveling so much easier hotels dot Com.

Then so I got let me, let me find, let me find the hotel you staying there in the hotel dot Com. Then I told you, I get through it go to hotels dot com on right. All right, Dak Prescott, he will play in the preseason. He wants to play in the preseason. Mike McCarthy says, yes, he will. They would not give us any timetable about how much, how long, or when he would play. I don't anticipate him to be out there against the Pittsburgh's Tea was in the

Hall of Fame game. So Barry church Day would create two former Dallas Cowboys safeties. How would you proceed in getting your quarterbacks some work coming off that devastating ankle injury as you get ready for the season, and you've made him the highest paid player in the national football church well, I think you get Even though I said, you know, minicamp, I don't want anybody near him. I

don't want people touching them. I think in the preseason you gotta get him at least three at least three series. I mean, if that's you know, one in the second game and then you know two in that third warm up game that they always say the starters play the first half, you gotta get him at least three series just to get him out there. Hackling made it to UH to a live rush. You know, guys coming at them,

hands flying all over the place. I mean, they're not gonna veer away, you know from the quarterback like they do in practice. You know, they're not even They're gonna come at you full fourth. So for me, I think you gotta get them ready for that because once the regular season jumps around, you don't want him to be you know, you know, jittery in game one. You don't want them to have the you know, the yips in Game one where oh man, this guy was close to

my ankle. I don't you know, I don't know what she should do. Should I just go down? So to me, I think you gotta get all of that out in the preseason. Um. You know, if you now, if he's get out there getting lit up, you know, take him out immediately. But I think you gotta get him at least three series just to get him acclimated to it. Get him back then you know, an emotion of things, throwing it to those wide receivers, throwing it to those tight ends we got. So we'll see what they do.

But I say three series. Yeah, I'm with you, Church, but I wouldn't even spread it out over two games. I would give him three series in one game, and then those three series. The smartest thing you could do is run, run past like quick slant, uh run screen, quick slant and run and get him out of there, just to get him a feel for some get him two or three throws, get your screen game going so

you don't risk him taking any unnecessary punishment. Save him for the season, because we've seen exactly what happens when you don't have him for the season. And when Romo went down, we were lucky to have that Prescott. This time, we don't we, Louis says, the back of quarterback is not even on the roster, so I don't even think it's worth it to risk it. Get him in there, make sure nobody's around him, get the ball of his hands quick, get him to the sideline and getting ready

for Temple. And that's only if that whole offensive line is ready and right there. Now, if any of those guys for some you know, crazy reason you know, aren't playing, or they got injured during camp or something like that, I wouldn't risk putting him out there. That The only way I'm putting him out there is if he got that full healthy offensive line there just because I ain't trying to risk something crazy happening. But you know, but they, like you said to man, they got to get him

a couple plays in there during this preseason. So a question I'm gonna ask Mike McCarthy later on is, Mike, what is your football team? Is it a running team or a passing team? Which isn't? And I had a little debate with Calvin Watkins of the Dallas Morning News, and Calvin's like, hey, man, you pay Dak all this money, you go out there, you throw the ball. And I said, man, dude's coming off ankles and ankles injury. And I said, why not take twenty one who looks good and really

run the football. You got a seventeen game season here. There's gonna be timing up to get Dak going. I said it, but man to I want to run the football and protect Dak Prescott and also protecting my defense by by chewing up the clock. So in your opinion, guys, what kind of football teams should the Cowboys be offensively, especially these first four games to start the season. But Craig, you know me, you know me. Listen, the best Cowboys team that I've seen or been around. Were run first

teams all right. We had the most dominant, nasty offensive line. We would move the move the line of scrimmage, boom, first down three yards, second down four yards, and everything was third and short. So it was easy for Dak to make those completions, easy for Romo to make those completions.

Control the clock and move down the field. I think when you get behind the six and your incomplete pass on first down, incomplete pass on second down, then you run into these issues that we've been seeing over the last couple of years. So get me. Dominate the offensive line, dominate the line of scrimmage, and then work the offense off of that. Oh hey, I got some breaking out. Let me let me get you. Just got this from Joe Trey Handy, outstanding pr man for the Dallas Cowboys.

Mitch Hyatt is going to injured reserve. Malik Hooker is officially signed. He will wear number twenty eight, So number twenty eight on your roster. It's going to be a Malik Hooker at defensive backfield and Mitch Hyatt is going to the tackle. Mitch high is going to the injured reserve. So there you go. Well, in a in a spirit of competition here we go. I mean, CAZy now now

it's official. Now it's official. Hooker's gonna be back there, and I assume they're going to be battling it out with him in Kaz because you know, I feel like you know Wilson. I don't think he's always calling them earlier unicorns or they don't got to he won't have his position taken. But between those two, at that whole safety, that should be a great competition between both of them. And it's official now, I mean, you gotta put Kazy on waiver. Now it's gonna be official to see what

happens for the rest of his camp. I don't think you're not gonna put Kazy on waivers. I mean, nah, it was a bad term. I mean, not in waiver. But you gotta put them on on alert. I mean put him on alert, not not waiver, whis put him on alert. But oh he's on alert right, there's a bunch of them on alert. Okay, But I think this is the positive. First off, you got Kazy and Hooker both coming off Achilles, so we've got to see how

both of these guys respond. But the opportunity is there put it like this, This feels so much better than last year what we saw with a click dicks. All right, we've got guys, we've got opportunities, and we've got to see exactly what people can do. So that's it. That to me, this is this is exactly what you want with a defense that had so many issues last year. Hey, fellas, we just throwing chumm in the water and let's see

who who who goes and gets him. You know, let's let's see let's see who's gonna go ahead, get out there, improve and show what they can do. By the way, Hooker's got a mask on. He's kind of off to the side and so so very little participation in no helmet, So I just want to make sure I put that out there as well. But Hooker is Hooker's out here, baby,

he's out here here. And you gotta believe, you know, Kzy kind of kind of has the leg up in this in this competition at least early on, because you know he's been under Quinn, he's been under that system.

I mean, I know he said he's not going to bring that a specific Atlanta defense here to Dallas Cowboys, but he's got to put it in some type of traits, some type of principles of his defense back here with the Cowboys, and I gotta believe CAZy knows about those as well, So I think he has a up early on. We'll see how how Hooker can battle back in this one. Now, Now, that was Church, because I want to know he thinks he should be a running team or a fasting team. Look,

I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all a hundred percent. I think we should be, you know, a running team. As we've seen in the past when our defense has had their most success was when you know Ezekiel Elliott or DeMarco Murray. They were pounding that rock and they were they were letting the defense get a big break in as far as time is concerned, and we go out there, we get a takeaway and get it right back to them,

so we ate up that time and possession. It helped our defense out and I think that's when we get the best and our most potential from our offense. But if y'all think Jerry Jones paid, it made Dak Prescott the highest paid quarterback in the National Football League history. To watch him turn around and hand the ball off to Ezekiel Elliott. You're crazy. And then we also got an offensive coordinator who thinks it's Madden out here, who loves to throw the ball, even on fourth or one,

loves with the ball. So if y'all think we're about to turn to go around and turn and turn around and hand this ball out to Zekiel Elliott, you're crazy. It should be a running team, but he's gonna be throwing that ball all over the yard. I can assume forty to fifty times a game. Listen, it's it's possible, Church, I mean, gave you gave him Mark Cooper one hundred million dollars and let him run slants all day. So I'll be you never know he we are going to

the eighth throw. We're gonna be coming back over here like man what. We'll get the dub. We'll get the win, but it's gonna be tighter than it needed to be. And I don't think Zeke's gonna get the touches that he thinks he's gonna receive. Church, I want to also go back in preference what I said. I'm talking about this first four games. Okay, especially had the first month of the evening and just talking about the whole season. Okay, yeah,

in a seventeen game season. I'm thinking, okay, look, let's just just just kind of ease this thing in here with Dak that we're keeping him at thirty throws and under in a football game, and really trying to utilize what you have with Ezekiel Ellie, with Tony Pollar and even what you touched on Danny in terms of preseason. Actually, hey, how can we get the ball out here quicker? How can we figure out a way to help our quarterback

and keep him as clean as possible. We've already seen how guys can't get through sixteen games in this league. So many quarterbacks have an issues here. I want to do, at least in my opinion, coming out here facing a team like Tampa Bay. You then next up, you gotta come out here back to LA You're gonna face some Chargers, You're gonna face some quality defenses out of the game.

To me, turn this thing around handed to twenty one, or utilize the screen game with twenty one and twenty and and really just try to keep Dax throws under. When you start talking about forty fifty times a game, that's more and more opportunities for guys to get back here and and hit and hit four. I need for healthy, especially towards the end. We talked about how tough the Cowboy schedule is at the back end with a whole bunch of these NFC East games. That's what I'm trying

to get to. If I'm Mike McCarthy right now, is hey, let's pace this thing. It's a long marathon. We're gonna have a lot of games, and what is it, maybe nine games a row after the buys that they're at. That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking long term about trying to trying to save number four and have him, you know, playing at a premium level at the back end of the season. Yeah, let me tell you something. Dak Prescott out throwing about forty times a game. We are losing.

We headed for six to eleven. I'm just telling if you have to throw the ball forty times per game four to fifteen, we're seeing that game in the game out. One our defense is they're not playing the way that they should play, and we are having to take too many risks to try to get us to win the win the football game. So if you see those numbers, you can guarantee that we are probably not first an NFC East and not in the Super Bowl running. And

I'm with y'all on that. I'm with y'all. I think you know, we need to turn around, hand this ball out to Zeke, maybe limit the throws to maybe twenty to twenty five to maybe even thirty a game if that. But I just don't. I gotta see it. I gotta see it to believe it. We've seen it happen last year with McCarthy said, Oh yeah, we're gonna be handing this thing off to Zeke. This's gonna be a run team. And look what we did, even before Dak got hurt,

we were throwing the ball all over the yard. So I got, like Louis says, I gotta see it to believe it. Hopefully we go the running route, but we'll see, well, we will see it depends on the health of the on line. I'll go there, because you know, like you said, at the beginning of the season, we weren't we weren't healthy enough to be running the ball like like we should have. We weren't moving a line of scrimmage. And then we also had Zeke out there fumbling, you know,

almost every time he touched the ball. So hopefully this year is different. We have a full, healthy offensive line and they're able to move that line of scrimmage and create some gaps for Zeque, so we can keep handing it to him because I think the minute you see him get a one yard game or two yard games, when they start going straight to the past. Yes. Um, you guys, we were kind of touching on this in

our break a little bit here the Olympics today. I haven't had an opportunity to pay a whole lot of attention to it because I'm out here, but I did get that early morning alert on my phone about someone Biles who decided to exit the team competition in Team USA ended up getting a silver. Russia won it, and it was not an injury for someone Biles. She said, quote Physically, I feel good. Emotionally, it varies on the time and moments. Coming to the Olympics and being such

a star isn't an easy feat. Wow, somemone Biles letting you know that her mental health has been something that she's got to look at. Here. What is your opinion, because you guys are former athletes, and you've played with guys who were the you know, expected to carry out here. What is that like when all of the expectations are on you to perform and be a star. The people have wanted her to be the star of the twenty

twenty one Tokyo Games. Your thoughts church starting, Oh well, I mean, you know, I was never at the level she was as far as stardom, and so I can I can only imagine, you know, the type of pressure in the weight that was on her shoulders. I mean coming into this, to this Olympics, that's all you heard, and it was postponed a year. This was supposed to happen last year, and she was supposed to, you know, get all this recognition, but then we come around one

more year and it's just built up even more. I mean, you got basically the whole United States, you know, gymnastic gymnastics back order, just a gymnastics team and everybody putting their their weight on you to perform. And it's got to be it's got to be immense. It's got to

have immense pressure to it. And you added, honest, the Olympics, so it's not just the American audience watching this this the whole world watching you perform and wanting you to be the you know, the the woman, you know, the the child is out there in front of everybody, so it has to be it has to have immense pressure on her. And I can only imagine what her what was going through her mind, you know, performing and while waiting to get on the on that last stage. So

it's it's tough. It's gotta be tough. Yeah, I think it's a little bit extreme for for for the young for the young female athletes like Osaka and and and someone viols and in the sense that not they aren't expected to just win. They are pretty much expected to be perfect every time they step out there, right, So if you even I said, I'm watching Simone Biles out there, and I'm saying, oh, yeah, she took an extra step here,

extra step there. Oh she's not performing as well, but you see her score and her score is still above everybody else's. It's just the expectations that we put on these on these young ladies, and it's it gets to them too, because they want to perform up to the high level as well, and when they don't or when they make a mistake, I think they feel the way to the world coming down on them. So I just can't imagine how intense those emotions are and how they

feel well, you know, going through this process. But I'm definitely pray informed and hoping that Smone Biles gets it right and she can come back and perform up to the ability that she sees herself during this season. Small

Biles lives out in the Houston, Texas area. I was lucky enough to take my family, my three girls and my wife, we went to go see her and at Dicky's Arena for Warts where they had the USA Gymnastics at the National Championships, and I said to my second child, and it's just and I just remember these words clearly, and I said, it's amazing to watch her performer. All these eyes are looking exactly at her, and she's expected to win every time, every whether she's winning the being,

whether she's winning the vault. Before it's that said, that's hard that you're expected to be number one each time. I don't know how she does it. And now that she's gotten to the Olympics and you see that it's weighing on her, I understand it one hundred percent. And

I hope. I hope people out there on social media are understanding of this is a woman who's been carrying this for a long time and what it is like to be in her shoes, to be in Michael phelps shoes, where NBC and the world are expecting you to be the star, and when you don't get anything less than a gold medal, it's considered a disappointment. I can't imagine having that type of pressure. It's almost like the Tiger Woods when Tiger Woods was golfing and we were watching him.

Hey man, we're expecting Tiger to win, even though we know it's hard to win every week, but we expect that. We put that kind of pressure on the athlete, and that's that's a challenge here. So hopefully some of them can can can get what she needs to feel good and and finish these Olympic Games and get a couple

of gold medals. Yeah. I'll tell you who who who should who should be mentor them and who has the most advice and experience from those situations of Serena Williams, because she went through that and it still is going through that well. I still expect Serena Willis to beat those I can get that and get that next Grand Slam. Every time she walks out there, and she's she's been doing it for so long, She's went through her ups and bounds, handle it, and I think she has some

good advice for those two very true. Yeah, I tell you, I look at it, guy like Tom Brady, the same thing you know to be To be that good that long at any sport, it's hard, and I just I just can't imagine it. But I think Michael Phelps would be if there was someone that some owe bios could get on the phone with and talk about having to understand what it is to have to in someone's carry

the games, to have the programming network program all around you. Um, that could that could be a phone call that that could help. And I remember Michael Phelps talking about his own challenges mentally to live up to that and Ray

Lewis had helped him. So I just hope someone can get there to some own biles and and just just help her get through this process because she's a tremendous athlete and I just I just uh, I just respect her greatness so much and just to watch fellas, I can't tell you what it is like to watch it in person and to see the whole arena, to see how everyone was fixated. Because when they're performing every there's

all you know, there's all sorts of exo. Somebody's on the vault, somebody's do on the floor exercise, somebody's on the balance being. But wherever Simone was, that was where the eyes were. It was almost like we didn't even care about the other ladies out there on the floor, and and the cheers were for her. I mean, somebody's coming off a great you know, balance being. It's like, oh yeah, whatever, where was Simons where we're watching the vault? That's a challenge. That is a challenge, and so I

wish her well here. All right, we are, we're over our time here, a minute over our time. We will get back on Thursday and the pads will be popping, so it'll be the second pad at practice when they get after it on Thursday. So we'll have some more things to talk about. As we've died heavily into the offensive and defensive line's because I think that's where the Dallas Cowboys can improve this football team to go from six and ten to a playoff team. All right, three

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