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Newy Scruggs and Barry Church share their thoughts on the Cowboys selection of LB Micah Parsons in the 2021 NFL draft and ask what it means for Jaylon Smith and Leighton Vander Esch on this episode of the Player's Lounge!

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's label, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and Newey scrugs. All right, everybody, It's Friday, and the Dallas Cowboys have made their selection. They have a new member on defense. Barry Church and I have been preaching defense, defense, defense,

and they went that way. We did not get the player that we thought the Cowboys would get, So welcome in. We've got it. We've got a lot to chat about here. We appreciate you joining us players not Bay to Buy Hotels dot Com. I'm new We scrugs, longtime Cowboys reported joined by former Cowboys safety Barry Church. Our guy Danny McCray is still out on assignment. So Michael Parsons is the pick. The Cowboys had the tenth pick in the draft.

We watched, I should say I watched in horror. Berry A, Carolina went J C. Hornet eight and I was like, yeah, this is good. Okay, this is good because I'm like Denver. Denver at nine will trade the pick somebody's gonna want the quarterback right justin field is available, they Chicago can come up here, so there'll be a quarterback at nine. At Certan is at ten. And my my dream went downhill in flames when I saw Rocles take Patrick Certan the Cowboys at ten, then trade down to twelve the

Philadelphia they pick up a third. They take Michael Parsons, outstanding linebacker from Penn State. So what was your feeling watching all this? I was similar to Younuis, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I was feeling great. You know. After I saw the Kyle Pitts go to number four to Atlanta, I'm like, all right, well that that's that's out the way. I mean, I'm like, that's out the way. We ain't got to worry about no seculations and weird business.

We good, were straight, you know, then we got you know, then Jamar Chase went off the board. I'm like, all right, we're still good. And then like you said, Carolina rolled around and they picked JC Horn. I'm like, all right, you know, that was a solid pick. So that that just leaves us, you know, being being in the business for certain because I did not see Denver going after a corner, going after certain anything like that. I didn't

see that coming. And boom, just like you said, it was just like I was out to dinner, matter of fact, and I'm just watching it on my phone and I'm like, all right, well we'll pick sur Tan. We got him on lock now, I mean, it's a rat. And then boom, I saw that pick go by. I'm like, oh no, oh, no, babies say it ain't. So they took him. They took both of what I thought were our top two defensive blue chip prospects right under our feet. Carolina got one,

Denver got the other. And you know, I was in shocked. I was in shocked for a hot second, and I started racking my brain thinking, all right, what type of what type of US scenarios can we do here? Can we trade back? Or do we do we stay at ten and just pick our trade down trade? And then I saw I saw the trade back, and I'm like, all right, they traded back, all right, so who are they gonna grab? Who are they gonna grab with this pick? And when it came across that it was Michael Parsons.

I thought to myself, immedia, like all right, well, at least, at the very least, they addressed the defensive side of the ball. Like they didn't trade back and grab the offensive lineman or anything like that. They addressed the defensive side of the ball. It's not the level that I wanted. You know, I wanted helping the secondary because I didn't see any blue chip defensive line prospects, so I wanted

helping the secondary above all. But when they took both of those prospects, and we talked about this on the players lounge a couple of weeks ago, you know, what would happen if they took the if both of our prospects were gone, and we both decided, hey, let's trade back and see what we can do for their add some depth. But when they got Michael Parsons, you know, I said, Okay, they addressed the defense. And here's a

guy who's explosive. I'm talking about explosive. We saw the forty times four to three nine at at two forty five. This is an explosive linebacker, sideline to sideline. Last time we saw him on the field, I think it was in a Capital One Bowl. He had like seventeen tackles. He was all over the field. He's a Buckets Award winner, and so I'm thinking, all right, this guy can be a plugin play not sure where it because if personally I would play him at the will linebacker, I wouldn't

put him in the middle. There's a lot of banging in there. I want to see his speed on the outside, maybe rushing a little big, you know, covering some running backs here and there. So I thought to myself, all right, this is a sideline and sideline guy. He can help our defense, but what does that mean for the rest of the lineback and crew. And I was and I'm racking my brain, like, you know, where do we put

these guys? Because we had Keyan, We got Keyan O'Neil in that hybrid linebacker type role, and I think, and that's exactly what Michael Parsons is gonna be. I mean, he's the same type of build, even faster than the Keyan O'Neil who's coming off an Achilles. So you know, what do we do with Neil in this situation? What do we do with the Jaylen Smith? What do we do with lv? So all this was racking through my brain,

but overall, I think it was a solid pick. Um, and it gave us an opportunity to add another pick in the third round when we traded back, so we can get more depth pieces for this defense. So overall, it wasn't who I wanted to wanted it to be. I wanted it to be certain or Horn at that cornerback position. But I think it's a solid pick and this guy can help our defense this year. It's interesting how this thing works out because over at the TV station, I'm where I work at it. Anybe she five here

doubts for worth thing? It's about me. Hey, can you send this a quick write up on what you think the Cowboys can do? And I said sure, So I do this ride up talking about Patrick's r Tan and how I liked him. Then I said, you know, jac Horne could be there as well, and that I was told by someone on the inside, and hey, look um, they'd be happy with either guys guys to be there. And then for just some strange reason, I said, let me add a third person and I put Michael Parsons

down there. No, here's another guy to look for. So, um, when I think about it, and you try to sit up here for Cowboy fans who had their hard set on a corner like Barry, and I miss that next

best defensive player there. A couple things surprised me, Barry, because I went out to the press conference earlier in the week where Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and Mike McCartney met the media and they spoke about and I asked the question if guys didn't play, if they set out because of COVID nineteen, do you have an issue with that? And Jerry said, quote, I think they're compromised. Yeah, I think they're compromised. And then he said, yeah, you missed

out on a whole year football. Then he asked, coach McCarthy's all right, so you know how many plays are they missing? Me? He said they're missing about seven under plays. So I thought immediately, hey, man, look guys like Piney Soul, Rashawn Slater, Caleb Farley, Micah, these guys are probably not going to make it to the Cowboys because Jerry is going to be like no. So the next day, I, you know, tried to be smart, made a phone call to a contact and said, hey, um, are you guys

going to penalyize people if they are not playing? He said, no, contact if no no, not at all. And I asked, do you hate Michael Parton? I that okay, you were out there and asked it up? I did, I asked, I asked my contact. I said, d hate him? He said no. I said, okay, okay, so Jerry so so they make the trade and I and this is my opinion. Okay, folks, all right, Dallas, goot boy name, this is my opinion. UM, the two fits I thought at ten it would be

best would be Patrick Sutan jac Horn. They make that trade down, they picked up the three from Philadelphia. You go get Michael Parsons. You know, he didn't play last year, but when he did play, guy was pretty damn good. Okay, I think I got to give him that UM defensive MVP at at the Cotton Bowl against UM Memphis. Dame Brugler I respect us analysis. Dane Brugler is also part of the Dallas Cowboys podcast netwhere Dagan writes the Penn State linebacker found two seasons in college and led the

team and tackles both ears. What does this mean for Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh and Dallas. UM, here's what right now? You good football players? As your kame So if your linebacker room is Jalen Smith, Layton Banderesh, Micah Parsons, and Keyan O'Neill, Okay, I'm good with that. I'm good. I don't know about you, but I'm good with that.

That is an upgrade. And what have we talked about before here on this show, Barry, Hey, who's gonna cover some of these tight ends and linebackers and just looking the way the league goes. I ain't gonna call him Devin White. Okay, I'm not gonna call buccaneers. I'm not. But when you think about what Devin White did in your hope of hopes, if you're going on to the hey, let's look at the positives. What Michael Parsons could be your Devin wife. Wouldn't you sign up for that? I would?

I mean, look what Luquid Lavante David did in the Super Bowl against Kelsey. I mean, this is another covered cover style linebacker that they had. And I'm not gonna say he shut out Kelsey, but he definitely limited Kelsey's role in that Super Bowl and that and I think that that paid huge dividends for that defense overall. So for me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking look, man, look, I love I love with the pick with the Michael Parsons pick because I think he can be that cover linebacker.

And what also I loved about that pick is this isn't not to my knowledge, but this is a guy that hasn't been injury prone. I mean, we look at look at our defense. What we have on our roster right now. Half of our starters on defense have been through some type of injuries, have had multiple surgeries, have missed multiple games. So this is a guy coming in fresh, no surgeries, no injuries that I know of, and look,

it has to be a positive for this defense. And like you mentioned with that that White situation, our linebackers in the past have been liabilities and average. I mean, we've seen what j. D. McKissick was able to do in Washington. We've seen some of these tight ends be able to rote up our guys and running backs wrote up our guys on third and medium. To have a guy with an explosivenificant explosiveness and the coverage ability of a Parsons added to this linebacker crew can only be

a positive for this team. And like I said, he's not an injury prone so we don't have to worry about him missing massive amount of time, and I just think it's a positive overall. He didn't get that certain like we say, didn't get that certain or horn, but I think it was the next best option. Plus we picked up a third, so I'm overall, I'm happy so far with the draft. Dave Hellman, who also is a part of our Dallas Cowboys podcast family, he does great work.

He broke down Parsons and talked about the six and a half sacks that the guy got. So if you've got a linebacker who can find his way to the quarterback, Cowboy fans, I don't think I agree with David that you should not be sniffing your nose out and thinking that this is this is a problem, and this is bad. The Cowboys added a piece that if you ask yourself five years from now, you're hoping that this player is a good player and he's here doing some things for

a while. A lot of us did not know about DeMarcus Ware coming out of Troy when they took him at number eleven. Once again, I call it in DeMarcus Ware, but I'm just saying we're talking about a player who comes into the NFL who had a better resume than DeMarcus Ware And where's a Hall of Fame player in

my opinion? And I'm not gonna call Parsons, you know, the next great thing, but I'm just saying, if you're looking for the hope side, because Barry, I feel like there was so much negativity that I was reading on social media for Cowboy fans. I'm trying to find a way today to say, hey, look look at some things that he can do. Bill Walsh was always big on don't tell me what a player can't do, Tell me what he can do from my forty nine ers, And that's what I'm trying to sit up here talk about today.

For some of the things about Michael Parsons, what can he do? You've seen his speed. I watched the Pro Day on NFL Network at Penn Stay and James Franklin was raving about him in the fast I wasn't like four three nine, some crazy things lay at four three nine. He was rolling. Okay, So so right now we're talking about a fast linebacker, a guy who can find his way to sack the quarterback. Tell me what the negatives

are here, especially since your corners were gone. It's not like you sat up here and said, hey man, we're gonna take Parsons over the corners. You didn't. This was your next best choice. Now I'm gonna sit up here and say this, Barry. When I saw what the Giants got from Chicago, I'm like, wow, huh because the Bear and if we talked about it before, the Bears would be willing to give up a one to move up

and get a quarterback. And sure enough they did. So the Giants got a haul, and the Giants had to go to twenty and maybe the Cowboys were not ready to go to twenty. And actually the press conference, Jerry Jones raved about how he had Michael Parsons. Is that his number one defensive player on the board. I first thought is, if he's your number one defensive player on the board, why are you trading down to twelve. Whyn't you take him to ten? But hey, nobody just hit now.

I'll say that, and I'll say this in Jerry's defense. They traded down two spots when they took Roy Williams. Eons to go back was at two thousand and three when they took Boy, but they or two thousand and two, but they trade it down two spots and picked up a third from Kansas City to get him. So he does have precedent in doing that. He does have precedent

in doing that. And I guess he was pretty sure that nobody was going to take Michael Parsons at eleven, so they could go ahead and get to twelve, and maybe Chicago called them, and they just didn't want to fall all the way to twenty to do it because he years of my thought, if you go to twenty, you could take Christian Barmore, the defensive tackle out of Alabama, but they took Parsons. They like Parsons. There's a need for Parsons for everybody out there that's unhappy with Jalen Smith,

and you see it all social media. Bunch of people like Cutchings everybody, and for the people who are like Lake Vanderish. I like him, but he's always hurt. And oh, by the way, it is Monday. They have a deadline. Okay, the Cowboys on Monday have to tell Laton Vanderess if they're gonna pick up his option for twenty twenty two of nine point one million dollars. And Stephen Jones was asked about it earlier this week, and he said, yeah,

we hadn't got to that yet. So that's another interesting that's an interesting wait wait wait wait, wait wait wait, he said, he asked them about the fifth year option and it's it's due Monday, right, Monday is the deadline of where you got to tell somebody or not if they're gonna be, you know, here for their fifth year option. And he said, we haven't got to that yet a couple of days away. Man, Okay, And I'll say this. I'll say this. They didn't have the draft yet. You

didn't know what you were gonna have. So why, you know, why make a decision, Why come out and make and say we're gonna do this or that. You don't have to yet. Let's see what your team is. Um if they're still having cap issues, they may decide, you know, we're not gonna do this. Garrett Bolts was under that same scenario with Denver where they didn't pick up his fifth year option. He came out and the balled last

year and they gave him a new contract. So you know, it doesn't if you if you say to the player, we're not gonna pick up the fiftyear option, that doesn't mean that you can't therefore go and do another contract with the player. So they basically say, too late, banderash, you know what, prove it, you know, give us a prove it year this year, and then you know, maybe we certain they've got that opportunity, or they could throw

the franchise second. I mean there's options, there's definitely options. There's definitely Let me ask you this new let me ask you this real quick. For as far as the Draverton get back to the draft, do you think the Cowboys made the best valued pick and getting Michael Parsons there? I mean they because they could have got the tackle from Northwestern I believe his name is for Shaun Slater. I believe his name was. They could have gotten him

if they stayed at ten. Do you think, out of those two those two scenarios, if they made the best overall value pick by getting Michael Parsons at well rather than sticking with Rashawn Slater at that tackle who could have been a guard or he could have been a swing tackle, anything like that, do you think they made the right choice? Do? Okay, Um, I'm glad you asked this. I think this is a very very good question. We all love Zach Martin and what he is as a

football player. He's building a Hall of Fame resume coming out Inn Order Dame. He was a left tackle. He was so good he was the Bowl Game MVP of the Yankee Bowl at the tackle position. Tackle position, all right, that tells you how dominant he was. The Cowboys drafted him and immediately put him at guard. The reason why the arm length didn't have long arms. He didn't they you know, and if the Cowboys felt he didn't have the kind of arms that they want for a tackle,

so he went inside. Rashawn Slater has short arms in the Cowboys system. Okay, and make sure I say this straight for people who in the Cowboys system. He's a guard person. I talked to you said, this guy could be an all pro guard. He has Zach Martin traits. That's how much they liked Rashaan Slater and what they thought of Rashaan Slater, but they were not going to draft a guard at twelve. Versus, we need some help on defense. Here's a dynamic defensive player in our opinion,

who can help us. Let us go back to what Dan Quinn had in Seattle, which helped him land the Atlanta Falcons job. Bobby Wagoner, you had kJ Wright, you had really good linebacker play, and you had dudes who could get across the football field. We keep talking about trying to give dan Quinn players. Did you give him a player? I feel like you gave him Michael Parsons. You gave him a player. You gave him a fast

guy in this league where you need fast people. You gave him a guy who when you look at the tape of what we've seen, the guy was producing. Will he be a walk in starter? He hasn't played in two years. I don't think he will. But can't he help your football team? Yeah? If Jalen Smith does not get back to being the player you wanted to be, then maybe he's that guy on third downs. If Lake vander Ess just hurt, then maybe he's that guy that's playing.

But you have two question marks at your two starting linebackers. You needed help on all three levels. We said we need to help on all three levels. But going back to your original point about Slater, Slater's a guard for the Cowboys. He's a guard and he'll be a tackle out there for the Chargers. And that's great for them,

that's what they want. But with the way the Cowboys play their guys and the way they run their system for the offensive line, he was a guard, and I just don't think he'd take a guard at twelve, So good question. I did. A lot of people talked about putting Slater there, but I just knowing the Cowboys the way they operate, I'm like, NA, you don't. He's a guard. You didn't need to do that for a guard. You're right, that's a little high for like you said, the guard.

And he played tackle his whole his whole career, and he's moving him in the guard. Who knows what he would project ass and with Michael Parsons, With Michael Parsons out there, I mean, we know what he can do. We know what he can do. He's sideline the sideline, he's explosive, he can cover, and that's what we've been needing. That's what we've been needing on the defensive side of the ball. It's not the secondary pick. It's not that blue chip prospect I wanted to get, like in certain

and Horse or Horn. But this guy, I mean, he can fly, he can fly all around, and what we've been missing since probably twenty eighteen when an LV and Jalen Smith were rolling and they were, you know, probably the best tandem of linebackers in the league at that point. If we've been missing that sideline, the sideline guy, the guy that can can make everybody right, no matter if the defensive lineman hits the wrong gap or who gets

pushed out of his gap. We need somebody with explosiveness that can make everybody around them better and everybody around them right. And I'm not I'm not sure this is the right I'm not sure Michael Parsons can do that, but I think he gives the Cowboys the best opportunity to have that sideline, a sideline guy who can cover as well and not get exposed on those third and mediums, because that's what killed us as a defense last year. We did. It's not like you know, we were giving

up huge, huge chunks on firsts. It was the third and five, third and six, third and sevens were that medium, that medium third down range where the backs come alive, the tight ends come alive, and they ended up picking us apart in that core part of our defense. So I think this guy can come in and give us an upgrade at that if he's able to be a day one starter. Now, that's that's the question that's still out there. Can he come in after missing a year, Can he come in and unseat one of these guys

at that linebacker position. I'm not sure about that, but like we've said before, there's a long history with these linebackers of being injured. So I wouldn't be surprised if halfway through the season, or maybe even the first couple of games through the season, this guy doesn't come in and make a rotational piece and eventually take over the starting role for these guys, because he's that explosive and he could be that he could have that much of

an impact on the defense. We just need on our defense. We need some juice. We need some we need an infusion of juice on that defense. There was exactly there was just too many times last year where guys we looked like they were lolling around, like they were running in quicksand like it feel like everybody was running circles

around our defense. And I think if you got a guy with has juice like he has and can get from sideline the sideline like that, I think he's definitely an upgrade for our defense and he should be one of the starting linebackers here soon when the season starts. Before we go to break Baron, impose this to you because you played in the National Football League. You played

for the Cowboys. You played on a really good Jacksonville Jaguar defense that ended up going into the AFC Championship game with a lead in the second half before losing to the Patriots. When you bring in a player like Parsons as a number one draft pick and you're an incumbent like Layton Banderesh and Jalen Smith, does how much does it increase the competition in the room? And how much do those two players who have been starters and have gone to the Pro Bowl do they Do they

feel any heat? Do they feel any pressure to keep what they have? How does that work in the locker room? Oh, without a doubt, Without a doubt, you feel heat when you got someone drafted in the first round at your position, knowing that a they're they're coming basically for your job. I mean, you're gonna feel the heat. And this is a guy that you know, everybody raved about saying how explosive he was and how he can help any defense

out there. So you're gonna feel the heat. And it's up to jay Len and it's up to Lve to to step up their game and that level of competition. I mean, I know me for for a fact. You know when I was having my competitions with the will JJ Wilcox or Rodney Pool, when I was trying to get started as a starter in the safety unit, I

made sure I worked out with those guys. I made sure like, look, I'm getting this closed with I can with you guys to make sure they look if the if their game is going up and up and up, I gotta make sure my game matches. There's because I know that they're coming from my job in the long haul. So for them, they I mean, it's there's two ways to approach it. Either you can be that you know that mentor to him, show him the rope, show him the game and kind of be that that Peyton Manning

kind of kind of big brother to these guys. Or you can pull the Brett Farve route where it's like, hey man, this is my job. You're trying to get my job. I'm not helping you out. You see how he did Aaron Rodgers. When he first came in, he was like, I'm not helping you out, and that was kind of my moldya and my mold was kind of just a you know, we cool, but you're coming from my job in the end of the round, so I

can't give you all my secrets. And it's just gonna be up to them to decide what type of role they want to play with a guy coming in trying to take their job. All right, Um, let's squeeze in a break here. The Cowboys have four picks today. One in the second round, number forty four, three in the third round, number seventy five, number eighty four, in number ninety nine. Barry and I will give you our take

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reported joined by Barry Church, former Dallas Cowboys safety. We are in our SWBC Mortgage Virtual Home studios. Micah Parsons is the pick at twelve. This is a guy who when he played in twenty nineteen was an All American player. Guys resume with a proven player. Okay, so the Cowboys got that. They helped their defense. They have one pick to day in the second round, that's at forty four. They've got three picks to day in the third round

seventy five, eighty four, ninety nine. Church, what position or what player would you like to see in round two and rounds? Who? And I'm not sure if we're gonna be able to get there because we pick twelfth in round two, so I'm not sure he'll still be around. But I would love to see them get to safety from TCU. I would love to see them be able to grab him. I think he's a playmaker out there. I think he's a guy that he has multiple position flexibility.

I think he could play that high hoole safety. He can play in the box, and I think he could play a little bit nickel as well. He has cover skills and he's kind of a ballhawk as well. I mean, so to me, I think he checks all the boxes for a safety that you would love to put into this defense. He doesn't have to be a Day one

starter at all. I mean you could put you can put him behind a Kaz, let him, let him learn behind Kaz for a little bit, and maybe sprinkle him in on a couple of dime packages or a couple or a couple of nickel packages here and there. But I would love to see the Cowboys and be able to get this guy. Like I said, I'm not sure if he's gonna be there or not, but this is a homegrown dude. TCU played there, So for me, I would love to see them grab him. But it's between

him for the second round pick. It's between him and I would love also for them to get that defensive tackle from Alabama. I don't know if he'll be able he'll be there as well, because I think he might go early in the second round. But those two guys, I would love to see them adds this defense, especially on the defensive line. I mean, we need an interior defensive line piece. To go with Neville Gallimore in there. We know right now we've got Tristan Hill coming off

our ACL. Not sure what he's gonna look like this season, but I would love for him to be able to get down there and just help against this run because that's what destroyed us last year, especially on the defensive side of the run destroyed us. I mean it's Casper going for three hundred yards meant four or five games against US Casper going for three hundred yards. So for me, we got to improve that interior part of the defensive line.

I would love them to get one of those two players, just not sure if they're going to be there at twelve for us to grab. Okay, let's start with TCU safety Trayvon Merrick Marek was the Jim Thorpe Award winner as the top defensive back in the nation, beat out Patrick's Rutan and JC Horn for that. So he's on the board. You talked about it, all right. The twelfth pick in the second round, seven interceptions, twenty eight passes defended the last three years. Here is kind of the juice.

With three picks in the third round, are you willing to give up let's say number ninety nine to move up and go get your safety or as you spoke about, defensive tackle Christian Barbore from Alabama six foot four, three hundred ten pounds, ten tackles, fifteen point five sacks for lost and twenty four games. If you look at him, he got better as the year went on. Started off slow, but as he started to understand and getting more playing time, he seemed to be a difference maker there. So that's

my question to you. If you had to trade up to get them, would you do it. I would trade up to get the tackle from Alabama. I'm not sure if I would trade up to get to safety because I just feel like that tackle could affect our game more than that safety, could you know. I feel like what we did, and I spoke about earlier, what we did in the run was just down right terrible, and I think if we can upgrade that position, it'll help more than if we brought a safety in to kind

of play that high hole. I think that that defensive tackle, that one or that three technique would be able to affect the game more so I would I'd be willing more to trade up for him than the safety out of TCU. Both prospects to me can help this defense in the long haul. But the more intriguing prospect to me, because how bad our run defense was, would have to be the defensive tackle from Alabama. And we've seen that the past couple of years, our second round picks that

they've been right. I mean, we had Traymon Days, who was a Day one starter here for the Dallas Cowboys. He went in the second round. He had an up and down season, but I think overall everybody sees him as maybe a cornerstone or he can be a building block for this defense. So the second and the third round guys, they're just as important to the development of the defense as a whole as a first round guy

would be. So for me, the only one that I would trade up to get would be that defensive tackle because I think he can affect the game a lot more and he can help against such a terrible run defense as we had. So I would trade up to get him, and hopefully that TCU safety would have failed to me. But I'm not sure who he falls to

me at all. Okay, so let me just check out just some of the things here that people are saying right here as I'm checking social media on our page, a couple of folks who want Barmore saying Barbour's worth trading up for. Jay says I could definitely feel Church on this. J J Okay still out there, guy from UCLA linebacker for you, saying I give up a couple of picks to move up to get him. Somebody's saying, go get the Oregon safety player here, Javon Holland, because

I think the Javon Holland is safety from Wargan. I think if you don't get the safety from TCU, I believe he could be there, and I don't think you have to trade up for him to get there as well. So I think I get that trade up for the de tackle Barmar, and then I would wait in the third round to get Holland because I think he'd still be there. Okay, So let's let's just kind of go down this list right here, Okay, And this is Jomachode over the Athletic, another guy that I I love his

work to appreciate. So here your top corners still on the board. A Sante Samuel Jr. Okay. The Cowboys folk at their press conference about loving guys who have dads that played in the National Football League. Now a Sante is five ten, one eighty Cowboys like these dudes. It's six ten. But oh, by the way, the dudes, you won it or off the board. So do you go ahead and say, let me get a sante Samuel who had three picks in eight games last year. Do you

like him? You got Kelvin Joseph the corner from Kentucky six one ninety seven, four picks in nine games last year. You got if two Melafanu from Syracuse, big big safety six three two oh five, three picks in last twenty games. Elijah Molden. I like this kid. Elijah Molden five ten, one ninety had five picks his last seventeen games. Then he got Tyson Campbell out of Georgia one pick in three years as a starter. So these are just the corners, Okay,

So let me start right. Y is a Sante sent Can you overlook the height if you're the Cowboys, If I'm the Cowboys, can't overlook the He's a perfect nickel build. But we already have two kind of perfect nickel builds

under contract. And that's Anthony Brown and that's Jordan Lewis and you know, I like Asante Samuel, but if his game is anything like his father's, he's the ultimate gambler, and I think we already have I think we already have a gambler in our defensive back room and Trey von dig So I'm not sure if you put two two of those same type of players. I love to gamble, like to jump routes out there on the same field because they can make plays for you. As we've seen

a Scante Samuel Senior. He's made plenty of plays out there, especially in the playoffs, but that can also bite you in the butt. I mean, think about Marcus Peters. He's one of the better corners in the league. He gambles a lot and he wins a lot, but he also loses a lot. So I don't know if you want two gamble type corners out there with Diggs and a Scante Samuel Junior. I like his game, but I'm not

sure if I could do two gamblers on the same secondary. Okay, all right, his great stuff right here on our social media page. Somebody said I'd rather sign Sherman. Okay, Richard, should me help you? Richard Sherman can't pay Okay, Richard. It's time in his day, it is time to let Richard Sherman play somewhere else. Okay, No, no rich signing Richard Sherman is no. Okay, he's not Seattle Richard Sherman. And that's being kind to ask yourself, this why the

forty nine er is letting him go? To a reason why they're letting him go. So so let's move on from Richard Sherman and what you and do we want another injury Do we want another injury prone guy? I mean that's defense is already yeah, and he's oh, now, you're just not thing. He just came off of a calf strain or a hamstring that limited him last season. So I just I'm just not a big fan of bringing injured guys into a defense that's already riddled with

a lot of guys in injury prone history. All Right, So let's now look at the safeties. We already talked about. Treyva Merrick of TCU, Richie Grant, there's a lot of people that like him. The kid from UCF who flashed the Super Bowl ten picks, twenty seven passes defended in the last three years, Javon Holland of Oregon. That's a player six one, two h seven, nine picks, nineteen passes

defended in twenty seven games. One issue I'm gonna wonder about do they hold it against Richie Grant that he did not play in a Power five conference versus a guy like Holland who did. What a guy? But look look at Richie Grants. But but look at Richie Grant's productivity out there. I mean you just you just know the ten picks, twenty seven passes defense in three years. I mean, this guy's getting his hands on the ball, and he's getting his hands on the ball. He's showing

he has a lot of range. And wouldn't that be special if we had a guy with a lot of range and not back in, especially in that single high defense that Dan Quinn loves to run. I mean, he got kazy there right now, But who knows what he's coming off what he's gonna do coming off of out Achilles. Richie Grant is a guy that can get can be that ball hocking guy in the back end. So I wouldn't put a pass the Cowboys a sniff around for

Richie Grant. Here's a player that I saw some tape of Look, I didn't dive heavy into it, Okay, I didn't. I just saw highlights. That never tells you the whole story. But when Indiana was balling this year, their defense was good. The quarterback was dynamic, and when he got hurt then the whole thing fell apart. But the defense was making some plays. Jamar Johnson six foot two o five seven picks,

fourteen passes defended in thirty one games. So while there are a lot of people out there who are big on Richie Graham, Jamar Johnson is a guy that I think is someone to look at. So those are safeties. Let's get in here to edge rushers here that are left, all right. Ziz Ojulari of Georgia. He's out there. Fourteen sacks, eighteen and a half tackles for loss of twenty four games.

Carlos Bashing over at Wake four sixty three, two seventy four, twenty and a half sacks, thirty five point five tackles for lost in forty five games. The big kid from Texas, Joseph Asai. Eleven sacks, thirty point five tackles lost in thirty six games. Ronnie Perkins of Oklahoma six three two fifty three, sixteen and a half sacks, thirty two tackles for lost in thirty three games. So those are some guys.

Are Rashad Weaver from Pittsburgh six two fifty nine, seventeen sacks, thirty four point five tackles for loss in thirty five games. You go over here to the defensive tackle, all right, Dan Quinn is a defensive tackle guy. Christian Barmoer Okay, we've spoke about him earlier from Alabama six four three ten. Here's a player that I can see them liking. Big boy out of Washington, levi On no Wazoique Okay sixty three two nine seven seven sacks, sixteen tackles for loss

in thirty nine games. Marlin Twee Poor Loto from USC six two three oh five eight and a half sacks, fifteen tackles for lost in thirty three games. Milton Williams out of Louisiana Tech. Sixty three two eighty four. This is a guy that has people have talked about who dived deep in the draft like him. Jay Tufele from USC six two three h five dayalen Um dave On I should say Davion Nixon, Iowa sixty three thirteen, eight and a half sacks, nineteen tackles for lost and twenty

one games. Alee McNeil out of NC State six two three seventeen, ten sacks, seventeen and a half tackles for lost with thirty five games. I mean, there's there's a there's a big boy right there. Some of his tape man is fun to watch. Often I love about Oh God, God, I was gonna say, just more guys that you know are available as the Cowboys have picks forty four, seventy five,

eighty four, ninety nine often to tackle. Okay, for those that are concerned about Tyrn Smith and Lel Collins, you've got Tavin Jenkins from Oklahoma State six foot six three seventeen out there, Samuel Cosme, Texas six foot sixty three fourteen, Liam Eichenberg, Order Dame six foot six three oh six. These Order Dame kids in their producing out there have made the adjustments to the pros very well. Um, look no further than Zach Martin Walter Little of Stanford six

foot seven, three thirteen. You know Stanford is a school that runs a pro offense. He has nineteen starts at left tackle. Brady Christensen from BYU six five three h two thirty eight all thirty eight starts came at left tackle. Dylan Raznis from North Dakota State six foot six three oh one thirty two starts at left tackle. James Hudson of Cincinnati six ft five three thirteen had all of his eleven starts at left tackle. Deontay Smith at East Carolina six five three h four A lot of people

think this is an underrated player. Twenty nine starts at left tackle, one at left guard. So there's kind of some areas where you know, the Cowboys could be looking at with these four pigs here that they could be making. And Jay, you're right here on you're right here on the our social media feed here for the players Lounge on Twitter. There's some great players here. There's some I shouldn't say great. There are some players that can help

the Cowboys exactly and defensively. But if you're in love with someone, okay, this is one where you know, who are you going to stay up on the table for. Are you willing to give up a third round? Are you willing to give up ninety nine and forty four to move up to get yourself to forty or forty one to get you know, to get whoever you want, or get to thirty. You know, just just that that process. If you've taken that pick from Philadelphia, you got it

for a reason. You keep it because that's eighty four. You keep that in sex head move ninety nine if you feel like, hey, we've got to get Barmore. If you tell me the Cowboys walk out of of today with Mike you know, after two days, walk away with Michael Parsons, you walk away with a corner. You walk away with Christian Barmore and maybe another or maybe an offensive an offensive tackle. I think Cowboy fans would say

you've helped improve your football team. I think so. And I think if you're able to walk away with with talents like that within the first three rounds, I think the rest of the draft is just it's just profit

at that point. I mean, you're just adding depth at that point, because you got If you're able to go up there and you're able to get a bar Mark and you're able to get offensive lineman, that can be a swing kind of kind of depth piece, kind of like how Joe Looney was kind of like that backup spot throughout the whole offensive line, and then you addressed the secondary need as well. I mean you you pretty much addressed your deep or you pretty much addressed your

whole team, and you upgraded your whole team. I mean that's what we came into this whole draft talking about where do we think this team needs to be upgraded, and we all pretty much agreed that it needs to be on the defensive side of the ball. Now, you already got Parson or Michael Parsons in there on that second level of the defense and the linebacker situation. Now, to me, you look at the defensive line because I think to build a successful defense you always start from

the front. You go to the front to back. Now, with this particular draft, we didn't see any blueship guys that can come in and be day one starters on that defensive line and help upgrade our defensive line. So that's why they went to the second level with Michael Parsons. But now that you're in the second round, you're in the third round, I think you have to address that defensive line. And like all those edge rutchers edge rushers that you mentioned, they're all right up, you know, dan

Quinn's alley. As far as body type, they're big, long rangey type guys who he loves, So he has his options of edge rushers out there. But I'm not sure you plunge early in the second or early in the third with an edge rusher when you get already you know Lawrence on one side, Tank Lawrence on one side, and you got an emerging Randy Gregory on the other side. So I don't think you need to go and trade up for an edge rusher early in the second round.

But I would if it was for that interior defensive line because we do not have anybody outside of Neville Gallimore. No disrespect to Tristan him, but we don't have anybody outside of Neville Gallimore that can help pretty much be stout against the run. Now we were able to get this ball more kid in there, I think he'd be a huge upgrade for that defensive line, and I think he'd be a huge upgrade for his defense when it comes to stopping the run. And then you fall back

to the secondary. After you fall back to the secondary, like you said, you had options. You got that safety from TCU, you got hauling from Oregon, who I think you can get in the third round, and then you also have a Sante Samuel jul Your who, like I said, I don't like the gambling the gambling as much, but if he's there, I think you might have to take a flyer on him, and that way you can upgrade every level of the defense without having to do too

much or spend too much to upgrade it. So I think that'd be an extremely successful draft early on, and the rest of the draft will just be profit because you can just get depth pieces for either offensively or defensively. So if we were able to pull that off today, I think this draft will become an a plus. Okay, we had somebody ask us right here on the social media page, who do you want at corner? Tell you what.

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you joining us. Some new we Scrugs a long time Cowboys reporter and right alongside my man Barry Church for Dallas Cowboys Safety our other run and buddy Danny McCrae is on assignments of the Cowboys. Get Michael Parsons and around number one and pick up a third round pick for Philadelphia as they dropped from ten to twelve. The two corners that the Cowboys had eyes on, JC Horn and Patrick's utan. The second we're taking at eight and nine. So the Cowboys left without them, and for many people

they think they got the third best defensive player. Some people had Michael Parsons rated hire as a defensive player on their big boards. Jerry Jones comes out and says that Michael Parsons was their number one guy on the draft board. So now we get ready for round two where the Cowboys have four picks, Okay, one pick in the second round, number forty four, three picks in the third seventy five, eighty four which they got from the Eagles, and ninety nine which was a comp pick. So the

Cowboys are rolling with four picks today. Someone had asked us right here on the Twitter page players allow social media page, who do you want at corner? All of us right now are an agreement eve our producer Chris Bean that Asante Samuel Junior is not going to be the guy. From the standpoint, he doesn't fit the defense

because of his size. And when you're thinking about who you want for the Cowboys, don't think about who you want, think about who they like in their scheme of what they want, which is why I went back to Rashon Slater when Barry asked me earlier. Rashaan Slater has small arms. In the Cowboys system, for Lyneman, he would be a guard, not a tackle, so he wasn't worth taking at twelve. So when we start to look at corners, what do we know? We know that Dan Quinn and Chris Rashard

were both on that Seahawks staff. They like tall corners. They like guys that are six feet preferably six one who got long arms. So that's where you start to say, take off, Samuel. Look at Kelvin Joseph of Kentucky six ft one ninety five, four picks in nine games last year, if A two Melafanu of Syracuse sixty three two oh five,

three picks in his last twenty games. His brothers in the league, Elijah Molden of Washington five ninety two, five picks in his last seventeen games, Tyson Campbell, Georgia six one ninety three, one interception in three years as a starter. So those are guys I'm looking at right now that that you know seemingly our best values church at corner um.

I am intrigued by Elijah Molden. I ended up watching some of the Pro Day from Washington and listening to them and just kind of some of the competition that this guy has played. I just think that maybe he may be a guy that that that they go for. But honestly, I don't know, because we haven't talked to Dan Quinnberry. I don't know what they'll really do outside of knocking a guy like Samuel off the board because of the height, you know. And I tend to agree

with you on that, Elijah Moulden Pick. I mean, this is kind of a Swiss Army knife guy. He played all around for Washington as far as in the secondary corner safety nickel. He can be that versatile piece that if anybody goes down he can plug and play in. So I tend to agree with you on that one for the draft. But but a corner that you know that we could take a flyer on it, it wouldn't break the bank. Is you know who's still out there

in free agency? Would be Breshard Brelan. I mean, look, this is a guy who played at Kansas City when these past couple years he was part of the Super Bowl team. He's part of the Super Bowl run last year. And here's a guy that he's long, he's lanky. He kind of fits that mold of a Legion of Boom type corner, a Dan Quink type corner. He kind of reminds me of Sherman, but a little bit younger version of him. And this is a guy who he's not going to break the bank if we come in there.

And he's a veteran guy who can come in kind of teach this young secondary because we have an extremely young secondary right now. This is a guy that can kind of teach them the ropes at the corner position as well as being a valuable starting corner out there for us. And it will give us time for these young corners that we do get in the draft for them to test to learn under a vet type corner

out there. So for me, you know, I'm still not ruling the ruling out that we get a veteran corner in free agency, seeing as though there are a couple out there. So I threw Bhard Brelan out there, but as far as the draft is because and I tend to agree with new Ya on this one. Elijah Malten kind of that Swiss Army knife guy that you could you need in your secondary. When I was there, it

was Orlando Scandric. He was our Swiss Army knife. He could play outside corner, he could play inside corner, he could blitz, he can do all that stuff against a run. So to me, you can never have enough guys who can productive players. So for me, you can never have enough guys who can go out there and be that Swiss Army knife because depth is key. As we've seen these past couple of years, depth is key, and I wouldn't mind them bringing a guy like Elijah in there

to add as a depth piece. What I hope to see with these four picks, and maybe it's three picks if they utilize one to trade up and get a play, I want product productivity for the people that don't like the Micah Parsons pick. I simply say this, look at the productivity. This is not some well we hope he can do this. You know, that was my issue with Tristan Hill. It was a whole lot of hoping with Tristan Hill that they did and it didn't work out right.

Even Taco Charlton was kind of a whole well, you know, Taco ain't doing not for three years, but his last year he did something. You know, we need to see guys who've been productive during their time. That is what I'm looking for in terms of what the Cowboys do. They if they walk out of here with a tackle, a safety, a corner, and a d tackle, that'd be great. That would be great. Barmore is going to be very interesting.

How do they rate him on their board? Church, because I believe if you could put in a Barmore and a Neville Gallimore, now you're cooking. Because they were thirty first against the run last year. They've got to figure out a way to stop the run. And oh, by the way, if you want to help Michael Parsons, if you want to help Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh, make sure these guards and centers can't get next level on them because that's what was happening last year because the

Cowboys were not good on the inside. So make these guys up front be big and beefy enough. They're tying up some blockers, which allows your linebackers to scrape and go make plays. So that to me, maybe I'm thinking, while they need a corner to paying on, what's their defensive tackle man. They may make that move right up front depending on how their board set, which we don't know, but I think that's something to think about. Yeah, I mean,

you're one hundred percent right. When we talk about building defense, was we always talk about building from the front to the back. I mean, to me, that's the most successful way you can you can build a defense. And we've seen last year. It happened time and time again in that Baltimore game and that Cleveland game. Whichever game we got ran out of the building the offensive line for the other team, we're able to get to the second level,

which is the linebackers. Like that. They were able to get up in LV and Jalen Smith's faces soon as the ball was snapped. I mean there was no reading for them. They had to fight off a block, then read the read the play, and by that time, the guy's thirty yards down the sidelines getting ready to get

tackled by safety. And you can't have that. You cannot have that, especially in this type of defense where it's so simple and it's so vanilla, that you gotta be able to hitch your gaps and you gotta be able to be gap discipline or we'll see what's gonna happen.

You're gonna get ran out of the building. So we need to be more stout up front, not actually getting it to the quarterback from the interior, but holding up those guards, holding up that center from getting to the second level of picking off our linebackers and turning three to two to three yard gains into fifteen and ten yard gains. And we can't have that. We can't have that as a defense. So we need to get more stout,

especially on the inside of our defensive line. Church on the social media page here man, they they on Twitter, many you brought up Rashod Brelan. You made one guy mad because he wants Sherman. He says, Richard Sherman is better than than Brelan. Richard they think Richard Sherman. So I'm just saying, we got we got Richard Sherman fan out here. Many seen have they seen Richard Sherman last year?

I mean no disrespect because this guy, this guy is definitely probably going to be in the Hall of Fame as a corner. But no, he want me. He could he could, he could barely run. He could barely run last year, And and that to me, he's I just don't think he's that guy we need at corner right now. I mean maybe two three years ago for sure, but now, I you know, I just don't see it. I just don't see it right now. And I mean, you talk

about giving up big plays. I mean, last year he was he gave up plenty of big but I think he gave up more big plays than Anthony Brown did last year. We're saying that he's better. I don't see it. And I'm definitely not barking up that Richard Sherman tree, especially for our defense. So and this is something I wish fans would kind of think about more so. Richard Sherman played for the forty nine ers last year, and they're saying, you know what, Richard, thank you very much,

we're not going to bring you back. Richard Sherman's defensive coordinator, Robert Salad is with the Jets. They've not brought him over to the Jets. So Richard Sherman's still sitting out there. Go back and think about what you saw from General McCoy and Don Terry Poe, two guys that the Carolina Panthers said, you know what, we're good with and the

Cowboys brought them in here. Carolina Panters didn't have a good defense last year, had new coaching tap, but they said, you know, we don't need these two guys, and the Cowboys just took him in fancies. So immediately said, yeah, yeah, this is great. Well guess what it wasn't when you start thinking about players who used to be good and what they used to be. What's that line in the wire, you know said the thing about the old days is them the old days. Yeah, that's what were good man,

the old days. You know, back in the day with Seattle, he was good. He's not anymore. So it's time to move on. You need to move on. And to me, the Cats got to move on from trying to think about it. Richard Sherman, So I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I appreciate, truly, I appreciate how you guys come up here on the players line, social media page on Twitter and get after us with your thoughts. I mean, look, we don't want another, you know, Keith Brooking type situation.

I mean that was the same situation where Keith Brooking we brought him in. You know, he was he was he was later on in his years. He wasn't that same Keith Brooking that was in Atlanta, and we brought him in here to Dallas to be the starter and it just didn't pan out. He just wasn't that said, he didn't have that explosiveness. He just didn't have anymore. He was old and right now, I mean in Sherman, he's done with an achilles, he's done with a cat.

He's been he's been injured, and we don't want to add another injury prone guy to an already injury riddle defense. I mean to me, it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense, and we don't want to bark back up that Keith Brooking tree by bringing another injury prone type guy to an injury riddle team as is. Okay, So you just jarred my memory. I was. I was

looking at that. They had a bunch of photos. They were showing up Jimmy Garoppolo video Jimmy Garoppolo and talking about, you know, Jimmy was hurt last year, so they showed Jimmy sitting in in the box at Niner games. Well, Richard Sherman was sitting next to Jimmy for a few games because he was hurt. He was because he was hurt. I just you need to bring it or hurt quarter I'm sorry. Richard Shervant fans. Aaron Rodgers says he wants out from the green Bay Packers, and I'll say this,

I understand you need help. You'd like to have another receiver besides beside Davante Adams. Last year and they go trade up to take a quarterback, your replacement, and then in the second round they go drafted running back and you already have Aaron Jones on the roster. So last year I look at Green Bay and said, man, these are two picks they made that didn't really makes sense. They got back to the NFC Championship game, Aaron Rodgers

became the MVP. Apparently, Aaron Rodgers feels disrespected by Brian Goodikins, the general manager of the team, and has said he doesn't want to go back. Packers have said they're not trading Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers can decide to go. I'll be the Jeopardy host here. So it's one more quarterback

that doesn't want out. You're feeling church is I think it's I mean, just think about the disrespect right now that the Packers are thrown at Aaron Rodgers, a future Hall of Famer here, This is a future Hall of Famer, a multiple time MVP, and you're telling me, ay, you're basically saying, hey, man, staying you're laying over there. All right, you're a quarterback, staying you're laying over here. Let us

handle this over here. And then Aaron Rodgers is looking around, like, man, let me look at let me look at what Tampa Bay is doing. Whatever you need, Tom Brady, what you need, you need all toward all of free agents back that had that Super Bowl run. We got you. You need dis guy, We got you need, Antonio Brown, we got you. He's looking at all these other quarterbacks. It's like, hold on, I'm a Hall of Fame quarterback out here, and y'all

treating me with this type of disrespect. I mean, y'all trade it up to get Jordan Love to basically replace me, and then and then throw it on top of that, I have an MVP season and your first pick is on the defensive side of the ball. Now, look, they do need a corner because Kevin King was terrible last year in that playoff game against Tampa Bay. So they definitely needed a corner, thank you. But I'm just like man man, I just I can't fathom the way they're

disrespecting Aaron Rodgers right now. And I think, hey, he has all rights to say, looking ya, I don't even want to go back to Green Bay trade me. I think he has all rights to do that. So I'm on team Rodgers on this one because I just don't think Green Bay's doing him any favors right now. What the GM is doing, these are fiable offenses. And while y spellas not the NBA, we're talking about a different

making player. And I mean, you see Tom Brady, you see Patrick Mahomes, you see Aaron Rodgers, and in my opinion, those are the three that have the leadership, that have the ability to carry We're talking about elite quarterback play. These are the elite of the elite. Okay, it's those three guys, in my opinion, that's the club. It's those three guys. Rogers has got the MVPs in a Super Bowl,

Mahomes has an MVP, has a Super Bowl. Brady more super Bowl than anybody's ever had the quarterback position, and the MVP's to go with it. Why would you mess. Why would you mess with that? Why would you not try to help that guy out? I go back to Peyton Manning and how blessed he was to have Bill Polian as his general manager with the Colts and then have John Elway is his general manager in Denver. All

they did was give that guy pieces. Nobody in the four years I've watched football had organizations go out of their way to give them make sure they had the talent like Peyton Manning had. You just look at first round pick like Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, the big tight end from Iowa, Dallas Clark, Dallas Clark and James Joseph and Dye was a first round pick. Donald Brown was a first round pick. Demarrius Thomas was a first round pick in different I mean, all they did was put

talent around Peyton Manning and guess what it worked. The sheriff is going in the hall. Well he was. He was already elected to the Hall of Fame. He set the record of fifty five touchdown passes in a year. I mean, we've seen what happens. We did give a great elite player help, and if you're Aaron Rodgers, your GM is not getting you help. I get why he's upset. And to me, it's a fireball offense because this is simple to me, I mean, this is really aaron hey

manum what you need now? The Packers are not a team that usually spends first round picks on wide receivers. That's not their m it's what they do. I think Sterling Sharp had been the last guy. They did that too, But you know, DeVonta Adams the second round guy. But give your boys some help. You don't sit up here, hey man, We're gonna draft a quarterback and you got a Hall of Fame guy ask asked what happened to Dan Reeves when he drafted Tommy Maddox while he still

had John Elway there. It ended up costing Dan Reeves his job. It ended up costing his job. Then gave it to Waite Phillips. Wade flamed out that they gave it to um uh Mike Channahan and he ended up winning two Super Bowls. But sooner or later, the ownership is going to keep. They're going to side with the player before they side with the GM, in my opinion, and to me, I just don't understand what the what the what the whole the whole tension or lack of

giving this guy what he wants. I mean, look what he's done with the talent he's had. I mean, outside of Devontae Adams, I mean a lot of Lazard is undrafted free agent. Um, what's what's the other guys that back Quez Scattling. I don't even know if I'm saying his name right, but I believe he was undrafted. I mean, you got Robert Tunya, who I think he was a fifth round pick. So and he's out there with Mercedes Lewis,

who's in his seventeenth year at tight end. So I'm like, he's doing all of this with not getting the best talent in the world. He's still taking you guys to NFC Championship after NFC championship and you're always in contention. Just imagine where you guys would be at if you're able to give this guy a little bit more talent. And that's all he's asking for. And I don't think that's that big of a request for the Green Bay Packers to handle. You know, I just don't understand it.

I remember when Ted Thompson was the general manager and Aaron Rodgers went to Ted Thompson. And when Buffalo was getting getting rid of their running back, this guy named beast Moode Marshawn Lynch, and Aaron Rodgers was going he went to the gym, Please get this guy. I know, I know him from our cal days. I know Marshawn Lynch. They didn't do it. They did not go get Marshawn Lynch.

That was a mistake. Ladanian Thomlinson told me how the Packers had had pursued him and he decided to go to the Jets because it was New York, and he said that he thought his wife would prefer New York to Green Bay, but Aaron Rodgers wanted lt. Aaron Rodgers is kind of smart, okay. I mean, the guy didn't go to Kyle and I just kind of I kind of laugh about just these these general managers who don't want to listen to the people who were in the

battles they're on the field. I mean, he's not some weirdo, he's not some guy that can't play. He's a Hall of Fame player. I'm gonna listen to the Hall of Fame player. When he says to me, hey, this guy can really help us. I don't understand why they won't listen to him. Meanwhile, what do we see in Tampa Bay? You know, they were like, we ain't bringing Antonio Brown next to you know, Antonio Brown is there, and what happened?

And they all wear they're all wearing rings, all right, they're all where Bruce Arians had a Super Bowl ring. Jason like, the GM has a super Bowl ring. So they finally got around here doing it. Tom Brady's way, who they're super Bowl champs. I don't get it, man, there's certain players you should listen to. And Aaron Rodgers didn't feel like he was able to get his message to Green Bay, so he wants out. And it's a shame, man.

It true. It's a shame if that guy does not retire a Green Bay Packer, if you watch him put in another uniform the way you saw Brett Farve at the end playing for the Jets and the Vikings, that's gonna be sad because this is this was avoidable. Okay, the Brett thing I got. He kept threatening, I'm going with time, I'm gonna retire. Finally he said, yeah, we go drafting and Rodgers and he was like, I don't know they're like, maybe tire to you not known him.

So Brett caused that the pack organization has made this a mess. Facts all facts. So the Cowboys don't have that issue because they've got a quarterback who's tied up here long term, and the head coach likes the quarterback, the owner likes the quarterback, the executive vice president he likes the quarterback. So luckily the Cowboys don't have that. But what they need to give the quarterback it's some defensive help. So today I'm looking for the Cowboys to

address more defense. They need to get a corner. Probably got to get the corner quick. They need the safety. In a perfect world, if they could find a way to use one of these third round picks and go get Trayvon Merrick TCU, that would be pretty fun. It'd be pretty cool. Or go get Christian Barmore, the defensive tackle from Alabama. I'd love to see them get one of these, one of these productive players. It's gonna be

fun to see. Church can't wait to see what happens tonight. Man, my eyes will be glued to the television, watch the NFL network for Shoore. I mean, it ain't nothing else to do. There's raining outside. I can't golf, so I might as well enjoy the draft. I'll be sitting at the house waiting to see what these picks come when the Dallas Cowboys. Hopefully it's what we just said. Hopefully

it's Balmore. Hopefully it's a kid from TCU and we get a solid corner in there to go ahead and back up some of these guys in the depth in the secondary. But we need it. We need defensive help, and hopefully we get it here in the second and third round. And also i'll throw it offensive tackle. I think that you know where their board is. I don't know, but I could. He had an offensive tackle and we spoke about that as well. There are some good tackles

that are out here. I don't expect the kids from Notre Dame to be there, but they got choices, man. And that's a Liam Eichenberg. That's the that's the kid's name, Tavin James from Oklahoma. Say there's some players out there, um Walker Little said, six foot seven three, thirteen nineteen starts, all nineteen starts came at left tackle over at Stanford. They're players that the Cowboys can add at the tackle.

Spot who fit the profile, so they can have some insurance for Tyrn Smith and Lal Collins and not just having tied Miseeki out there. So I think I expect them to do that. Mike McCarthy even said that he expected them in this draft to walk away with some offensive line help. So these are things to look out for. But it's gonna be fun, man, It's gonna be fun. Chris Beam, our producer, Chris has worked hard all week, a lot of shows, a lot of stuff going down here.

I cannot thank him enough for his professionalism. This guy's been worked with the Cowboys for over two decades. Man, he had his brother been great stuff. So Chris, I appreciate your church man. Thank you for the knowledge you know you played safety, always come with it. And for Cowboy fans who were down on Michael Parsons, I simply say this, go back and check out the productivity this guy can play. The Cowboys got a player who's productive.

The corners weren't there. I think feel like they did the thing they needed to do, picked up a third round pick. Hey, everybody, that's the Players Lodge, brought to you by Hotels dot Com. Appreciate boats for the headphones. We'll chat with you next Friday right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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