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I merely knew he Scruggs and Man the Colts last night? Wow, yeah, man, I need a refund on my time watched That was not good? Yeah, like that flight and Saturdays No, like what Saturday? The time management? Man? Man, I mean you know, of course had to hear somebody talk about here. Eric b Enemy doesn't interview very well. I'm like, okay, okay, but you know, Jeff Saturday's interview must have been daming real good. Huh he got the job to be interview. Mean,
what are you doing out there? Share a couple of years with the owners? Good? What are you doing out there? The Colts get beat by Pittsburgh. They didn't exactly look good. Either. No, they didn't look good either. But you know, Mike Tomlin and company get the win. Cowboys face the Colts, and you think about what they're dealing with. Now here are the Colts playing Monday night football. At least they had
it in their house. Now they got to turn around and come down here to Jerry World for Sunday night football, and America has to watch these two, this team on prime time one more time. That ain't that's just not right. It ain't right. That's not right. I need to get flexed. No, you know, the Cowboys ain't never gonna get out the look. The onus is on the Cowboys put on the whole to carry the whole thing. Really, you know, you will tell you right now, you're gonna see all these vignettes
like you know, behind the scenes with Michael Parsons. I mean really you are. I mean that's because of the potential of how bad this could be. Okay, I mean you gonna see some vignettes on on on Trey dig Son and an eight. My dad, heck, you do you do games? You know? How? Hey, what's our plan when this thing out of hand? What's the plan? So what do you what do you with Kyle have when you guys were doing a game and against out of hand, what do you do? What are the wedding plans looking like?
You know you got talking? I mean, you know what in those situations, man, especially when it's a complete beat down, that is I was. I really felt bad for Troy last night. Man and Buck. I'm sure they had moments. So that was like, we signed up for this, We signed up for this healthy. Yeah, but it was healthy um and not very competitive at all. I mean, look, Indy and he got a whole host of problems. And again, I don't want to I've done this before. I've signed
myself up for this whole taking people for granted. I'm not gonna do it again. I don't want to do that, you know. I want to talk about them in terms of exits and ohs and feel like they can come in here and get them a dove. I can go ahead and do it for you. Mike McCarthy, this team is terrible. I mean, that's just gonna called spade to spade. The team is terrible. I know. Matt Ryan was a former MVP. He had all the glitz and glamour, took him to a Super Bowl. But he's not that anymore.
My guy is a statue in the pocket. And we all know what this defensive line does. The statues in the pocket. They tee off and get crazy on them. I understand they got the guy in the backfield. You know, Taylor, he's a dog back there. But the old line it ain't what it once was. Ain't got a little spat. What about the spat that man? I just got this bost You talk about some fixed back that man. Guy, I got some skin and boots. Man, what are you doing? Man?
And he got the nerd the thing he can still run the guy get out of the pocket, like turning. It ain't so church As a former player, is this what a Pro Bowl game? Like? Hey man? Especially come around the corner right right right. Try to get this on national TV. Get them ball like, hey man, it's Mattie Ice and you know your digs need to pick. I could see this being the same type of like Minnesota. Remember how they went. Everybody was teeing off. It's my turn,
it's slop hands, I'm slap. That's how this game is gonna be. All right. They're trying to get those Pro Bowl bolts Day's gonna get maybe one or two picks to get his numbers up. Parsons might get a sack or two get his numbers up. I mean, this is a get right game. This is to me, this is this is a get right game. Oh look, I mean this is this is a Pro Bowl game. And you
gotta you know if you're a Dorge So I'm throwing you. Hey, you got eight sacks, Hey man, but if I get the double digiti, if you Dante Foley on a one year d yeah, I got five? Right now? How can I ask some more to the bucket here to uh to get myself rolling? So? Um heck, Now, I understand you don't trust this team, and that's great, and I understand you one hundred percent. But fellas, this is one in the locker room. You said, guys, guys, okay, we need to take care of business here. This team is
not good that coming down that short week, that coming down. Man, let's go ahead and put these cats out there. Misery. Gotta do it early too, right, right, I mean this should be from from the gate. Cra crack yeah the glass, y'all. Joe. Look, no, but my trust level, first of all, First of all, hey, man, y'all know me, Man, you have to I have to bring a plunge in here. I talked so much stuff
about my team, man, don't get it twisted. I feel like, Yeah, we're gonna come in here, We're gonna handle our business. That's the way we're supposed to look at this. But looking down the stretch at this season, it's just so much that we still have to take care of. Jonathan Taylor can't come in here and have reinvigorate his game on on our defense. You know, uh, what's his name? Jelanni was the tight end. I saw him last night.
He had a pretty big game. You know. That's still some things that we've seen with tight ends against us. With Jerun Curse coming back from his injury. Now he's feeling better, although he did go down. I don't know if you guys heard anything about his status or whatever. He came back at the end of the game, but looked like he had a shoulder or something like that. But either way, look, Jeff Saturday may be in the same situation as you got from Denver, a little bit
in over his head. He does have a great coaching staff. Is his defensive coordinator what have you. But this is a game that I'm looking at for the Cowboys to go in and take care of that business. I mean, I'm literally put your pimp and down, you know, and make this thing, make this thing. Get it over with, like we were talking about last week versus the Giants, get it over with in the first half. This team some kind of way tends to like they started slow
last week versus the Giants, and they did. And the one thing that is worrying me, guys, seriously, it is the penalties. Hey, the penalties. It's a problem because it makes a bad team look good and that's something that we gotta take care of, you know. And y'all know I'm the first one to jump out the cake. Okay, you're all ready to jump out the cake. Yeah, see me invitation for that it is. I really think we
want to. I want to apologize to Jeff Saturday for what heckma just said, um comparing him to Faniel Hackett, and then Thaniel Hacket's the worst coach in the game. I mean, Saturday's dude at least fought back and took a lead for him and they believe it. I mean, I mean, you got I mean, Denver is terrible. You're supposed to be offensive coach man and you boy Russ, Russ can't cook now work. Did you see you sitting
a clip I send you from James Brown. So, James Brown, I mean, you know, they don't get more professional iconic than James Brown. So James Brown is sitting up here doing the highlights on CBS's like, all right, Broncos Country, Let's ride to another L. That hot L they catching them Elsrocos Country, Let's ride to another L. Literally, he had I don't know what they're waiting on. They have
to fire him. Jeff Saturday is an interim coach. This is a guy who's been in the league, whose dad was supposed to be this, you know, good football coach. All hacking there. It is time. They're terrible. But that's bro. No, No, that's that's I don't they've quit on him. Oh yeah, you can see the players. I'm believing it. Say you you've been around for one of those in Detroit, you can see that they'll they'll they'll play for Campbell. They're
going out there. You can see first half second they're in games they're fighting for and they believe at least believe in their coach. There's I mean, ain't no, ain't nobody believing in hacking right now? I mean Sam Donald was buried on the bid with number three Tam Donald starting the game and pick completing touchdowns and and running for touchdown. And yes they have given up in Denver. So um, sorry, but a man's gonna get a call. Dan Quinn is going to get a call. Uh, you know,
dan Quinn should get a call from Indianapolis. Yeah, why you know what if dan Quinn is not on your list to talk to in Indianapolis and Carolina and back to Denver again, and you're not doing you're you're not doing it right when you talk about a guy former Super Bowl coach, Um, he should be there. By the way, they quit very nice to Maddie Ice yesterday. You know, I was I thought that was really beau boy. I think help get to the super Bowl. I thought that
was pretty cool to him. But they don't score heckma, I was just looking at here, um twenty five and thirty four points that they've done that just twice. But other than that, man, they're just scoring twenty and under a game. They don't score that ain't gonna win you games, not against this team. You know, you can't come here that Jerry World throwing up twenty points. I think you're gonna walk out with it, Dub, because that defense is not that that's not that d It's not that d Now,
I gotta put him to sleep early. And the thing that really was surprising me, I don't know if you guys, what you thought about the how Saturday handled the end of the game with the timehouse and the time and all of that. I mean, what were your thoughts on that? Man? First of all, I was surprised they marked them down that short because I you know, I mean, if you if you dive forward, I thought he had that this
is to get the first down. But whatever the case may be, I felt immediately after that time out, you know what I mean, why not? Why wait, they can't go with you to the next game, so why not just banging out right there? Did not roll over minutes. I ain't know what that team over. I don't even do that. They'll bring the Sunday nah Man peak hours. I got five. I've got five here for Sunday night at five at any time, minutes man, and that's it.
And that's the thing I thought that was really kind of interesting, the way that his clock management at the end of the game, maybe that affected them, and being able to draw up something and to me that that called to him as a coach and being able to execute in those moments. And I think, you know, it's the situational awareness of it that most coaches that have been coaching for a long time, they are aware of that and those are the kind of things that they handle.
Maybe that's and that's why I say Jeff Saturday maybe was not prepared for that moment. He made no football you know, the X and those of it, But it's the clock management part of it that'll get you beat or not allow you to get a win. Yeah, it's it's Jeff try to defend his hiring by saying, you know, I've played this game. I've been around when it may man that stucks, all good and then but you shouldn't know. And having an appreciation for what these guys do is coach.
It's a skill and it is hard. I mean, I enjoy the fact when you listening to Mike mccarthie's press conferences, he'll talk to you about things he did as a younger coach. He's like, hey, look, I had teams hitting too much. I've done these things before, even talked about how he's trying to dial some things back right now. But these guys going later in the day to try and help them. There's an art to learning this profession, and Jeff Saturday is he's not ready for it. He's
just not. And this is nothing against him. I like Jeff Saturday personally. It's hard and when they come here, they're go try run to the the football. They ran the ball twenty five times one hundred ten yards last night, but you shut down Johnathan Taylor, who by the way, had eighty six yards and a touchdown last night. You shut down Johnathan Taylor. This whole thing is done. You do your job offensively, and you get up on them.
You know you're putting up points. They can't score with you, which you means they're going to have to throw and if they're gonna have to sit back there and have might ass to drop back by thirty forty times a game, man, it's gonna be a bunch of dudes eating like we saw against Minneapolis. I mean, sometimes you know, the schedule makers help you out styles make fights. Indianapolis is in a very ain't chaotic situation with their organization right now,
going through changes. You're the cowboys. Take the gift you have and and uh put the bag and take glass job glass Joe out and set quarter and in this thing and get yourself ready for Houston. Yeah, which ain't much better, but this is nah Man better. They ain't ain't much, but it truly if you make this squad one dimensional, like you said, if you take Taylor, what do they have? I mean, you look on the outside. You know Pittman. He can make some catches here and there,
but nobody's scared of Pittman. They ain't gonna run past nobody. You've seen better receiver, You've seen it, You've seen you see better tight ends. If you truly can make this team one dimensional and force Mattie Ice to try to get back in the days to his MVP days, that's the only chance they got. And he's a statue in the pop scared. I'm really scared for him. He's gonna I'm scared for he better, he better scared for him, Sam, Sam scared for him. Dude was getting a hold. That's
what it is. Making that's gonna be good. It ain't gonna be good. He is a stationary target. He doesn't have a lot of movement at all. I mean, he's a throwback quarterback. You know, seriously, they gotta have to put him back in like punt formation. He's one of them guys that you see like if he sees pressure coming, harpitator, that's gonna lead the interceptions. I'm telling you that happitator. He got the auld. It could be another Kirk Cousin's
like type of forms. Man, you're trying to really care. I mean, it's it's that way. And hopefully and this comes back into the trust we say right now we have, we don't have full trust yet for this team. You've got to realize it. Um, this is not a good football team. You believe you're a good football team, Go handle your business and you're very correct. Heck man, the penalties what it was thirteen? Yeah, okay, you can beat
a Giants team like that? Can you beat a Philly or a forty nine ers in the playoffs like that? In the last year, we'll have fourteen layoffs you cannot and the presnap penalties and I don't know how do you how do you how do you fix that? How do you address that? If you're Kellen Moore, you're in the room here, you know First and fifteen said that you can win, you can win this week with that, but that's not going to get it done Christmas Eve. So this is something they've got to work on as
a team. And and and it's it's it's frustrating that. It's frustrating because you just see that's that's what losing teams do. You're not you can't go where you want to go being undiscibled. No, And and obviously you know you could speak to this knowing what it takes to get to that point where you could play for an AFC championship. These guys are trying to get to the NFC Championship, to get to the opportunity to play for a Super Bowl. But you you you hit the nail
on the head with what happened versus San Francisco. Those penalties right now, as you stated, you can beat the Giants team, you can beat Indy, you could be Houston, but the upper echelon teams you're not gonna be able to get away with that. Those things that kill drives and then we're looking at Dak in the third and fifteen having to play from you know, behind the change to get us the first down, and look just being
just being fair about it. Those things. Man, you cannot keep stack stacking the odds against you like that and continue to come out on top. You can do that versus the bad teams. The good teams are not gonna let you off the hook. And these these next couple of games, regardless of the opposition, these are the games that I feel like you can just make a concerted effort, not that they come into games and we're gonna have a penalties dog, but make a concern not to have
those penalties. You could clean those things up so that when you get to the playoffs that won't be something that's plaguing you because last year we beat ourselves. You got nip it in the butt. Yeah. Now why you still have the opportunity too, because last year what happened. You know, we're winning games, getting a lot of penalties to kind of gloss over because they were winning. You know, when it gets down to nutcutting time, the penalties, they
ended up biting us in the butt. So you gotta nip it in the bud early before you get to that point where ain't no going back, you know. So it's Smith those penalties against Smith that you saw first. Thibo though, like when you're like, oh man, like some of those holding was, I'm beating. I better grabbing for you get my water back. I can take that. I can take those you got hold, I gotta holding. I can do those. It's just self inflicting, jumping off sides
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I'm moving quick, you know, Harrison very cherished new describes it's playing side brought to you by Tostitos. Jerry Jones on his radio show this week on one to five three the Fan on if Beckham's recent plan I should say recent plane incident impacted they're thinking about wanting him. Jerry Jones quote, No, it did not. His overall team compatibility, his judgment, his behavior is not an issue with me. It is with many, but it's not with him. Boom.
Next question, Jerry Jones ass on his impressions after speaking with Beckham. Jerry quote, very genuine, very competitive, feels competent, feels good about himself. I think he breeds competence, very very compatible. We think he can fit in here really good. Next question Jerry to Jerry Jones needing Odell Beckham junior this season. Quote, we have to have this year. It's very important the things to do have him impact this year. This year has to be a big part of it.
He has to be a big part of it. We have six regular season games and the playoffs. We have, in my mind, almost the whole show ahead of us. We have got to have a situation where he can really contribute. Now, I just don't understand why in their meeting with him on Monday, but why I don't like, do we think the Cowboys offense really needs Odell Beckham? Julia? Like we acting like that since he's been back, hasn't been putting up points for this team? Am I correct
in saying that he's been putting up points? Their formula is there. We see what happens when TP and Z get the football play action. We see how that why? All right, so enlighten me. Heck no, no, so Barry, No, you know I know what you're doing. So I want to. I want to. I want to bring you over to the positive heck side. Okay, all right, that's still a little positive heck probe here? All right? The Cowboys understand that their chance for winning a Super Bowl is now.
They thought it was last year, all right, especially Jerry was talking about how healthy the team was and all of that Super Bowl all right, felt like that felt like that because of what they had. No, seriously, so now you got a guy like Odell Beckham coming in from an ACL injury and he could possibly potentially help your offense. That is in times you saw versus the Philadelphia Eagles a little in that that was weeks ago. No, no no, no, it was Cooper Rush. That Cooper Rush.
You bring in a weapon like Odell Beckham? Is he a weapon? Though? Wow? But the question is if you're basing it off of last year this time when I don't believe. Yeah, when he got to the to the Rams, did he improve that Rams offense? He did, but his knee was fine. No, but his knee was fine. And they had also think about the weapons that they had, Higbee, Cooper Cup, come on dog, They had some bona fide guys over there as well. What could he bring if let's just say said ACL is good, what could he
bring to this team? We talked about the ramp up. Heck, I understand And the question was asked because Michael Irvin said, let's not think about Odell Beckham in terms of this year maybe it's for next year, and that's why Jerry said, No, it's this year. We're gonna he's got to make an impact this year. And so playing the devil's advocate here, guys, come on now, help me out. I'm trying to ask
some positivity to it. No, like in your hearts of hearts, you think he can have that big of an impact, Like if you are you really looking at the guy, you really think he can have that much of an impact where it's like, man, we gotta get this guy on the Ross Church. I said from the beginning that I felt like the tight End group was good enough
to give you everything that you desired from a three receiver. UM. I also mentioned that Michael Gallup's knee wasn't right, and we're seeing him now makes him I don't know who got in this year and told him, dog, you are fine, you know, come out and he's playing like a guy that is believing in his knee. He wasn't when he came back. UM. I don't want a guy to come in here and mess up the chemistry that these guys have.
But also if you can get a guy that comes in not only galvanize this team or give them more confidence because he is a champion that can't hurt either. He is O b J. Let's not act like he had he ain't boy, Okay, but that's all I'm saying. If he could come in here and give you quality minutes, give you some time, give you some possessions, I think it's worth it. My thing is, you know how big of a presence he is on social media, right, He's all over the social media. Where where are the videos?
And this man cutting, this man getting right on the field, those dance tape, those dances, take where the holes at? Because I don't think he's at that point yet. I don't think he's even close to being at that because we would have seen it. We would have seen this guy out there. Let me get these one home. You see him out here one hand and catching still. You see him out here dunking on the goal. But we don't see none of that. And you haven't seen any
of that. So I don't know if he's not there yet or he just you know, he's keeping it the mystery. I don't know, But I just don't think he's at the point where he can go out there and immediately impact your team, right Now I don't think he's there. Somebody's gonna see it when he does coming to the office, and they're gonna the doctors are gonna be waiting on the doctor's gonna be waiting on him at the door
when he get here. So it doesn't matter. All that speculation and all why are your tape said, and all that go out the window. I don't want to see a tape of him running in the straight line, the camera shaking and all that and the music in the back. Now I get no, No, I don't need none of that, you know, the wide receiver drills. I don't care about none of that moving. No, I want to see none of that. Body. I want to see the business called
the Dance Tae, the Dace chronicles. Stop right, bro, put it all out there, right, coach, you know, Bobby Belt James later they went out there, you know, just documenting it, retweeting it all that. I'll just when it comes Odell Man like like he said he could come back, you know, seventy percent of what he wants was Okay, that's that's all right, we can work with that. But after a second, a cl I'm you know, I'm questioning. Yeah, I'm down down in a little bit. You say multi year contract,
I can't do it. Can't do it. There has to be some escape clauses in there too. Um, it's just it what we're hearing that he wants a multi year contract. I would have an issue with that, not having seen the knee in action. Now, that's that's just that's too much. That's too much considering you've got so many other quality football players who are going to be free agents after the season. Anthony Brown, it's gonna be up. Dalton Schultz is gonna be up. Um, your right tackle, Terrence Steele
is going to be a restricted free agent. Late Vanderesh is going to be he's gonna be up. Um, you're gonna have digs going into year four because he's only got a four year deal. Then you've got Cede Lamb who's on a five year deal, but so you could also negotiate with it. You're going to have some Hollard Pollard is a free agent. You know, Kna McGovern is going to be a free agent. Um, You've got you know, you've got some some some the bazookas come in right.
You're going to have guys that you're gonna have to pay, and you're gonna have to at some point in time figure out, Okay, where our resources best spent. How much money can you afford to put into a guy and you have not seen him play? Is he what he used to be? Not that he's going to be Russell Wilson, but you think about, hey, Russell Wilson, older player, not injured, but older player who can't do what he used to do.
If you signed Odell Beckham junior and he's not doing what he used to do and you're sitting here holding the bag. Look, Buffalo, Buffalo went out on the ledge to sign von Miller. Von Miller, one of the apex uh fis said too, I said they should have signed here, you know me, and I was all about von here. But but I'm saying, like that was that was risky business doing that. Buffalo brings in Vaughan, and Vaughn galvanizes
that defense. It's not like that defense needed much, but you saw you can see the effect that Von Miller has on it. Right, you feel what I'm saying. And that's my only point about Odell. I don't think that this offense necessarily needs him all right, especially from where they've been. The last couple of weeks. We've seen Ceedee Lamb the mature as as a one, all right, We've
seen Michael Gallup's game come around. I just think that he's a piece that you can add to give confidence to even those young guys that admired and looked up to him. Just think about what what Vaughan is doing for that defense and the way that those guys look
at him in his career. So that's all I'm saying now, the long term contracting, all of those things, those guys in the front office gonna take care of all of that, right the leadership standpoint, I do not doubt you on at all, very much in agreement there obviously the difference with Vaughan and William With the Buffalo, Vaughn didn't have
an issue. I mean, if Odell Beckham Junior is not hurt and the way he was because I was there that day and so Fi Stadium, and he finishes that football game, I'm not sure that Cooper cups the MVP um and he probably is a RAM or he's he's somewhere else based off the way he was bawling in that game. I'm just concerned about the knee and his ability to play. We've seen Michael Gallup, who has gotten better.
I think Michael saw the last game. I think of Michael Gallup's coming around here, and so I don't know why Odell Beckham Junior is probably not gonna be on that same type of projectory in terms of it's gonna take you while the ramp up gonna take you while to getting some games that feel good. He's also a lot older than than MG. Yes, he is older, and so what's left at the end of the year by the time he does all that and old is gotta
be thirties. He came into fourteen, right, yeah he came No, yeah, he came in rookie year. It was fourteen. He gotta be at least thirty. So that those are my those are Michaels. I'm telling you. Heck, one year deal, Okay, fine, right to check. Yeah you start talking about multi year deals. How much his leadership has for you, Your boy, James Washing supposed to be coming back many. I mean, y'all be shaming yourself the way you do that, the way
you you are seriously a problem. James man off the sticks and man, what is he What is he like coming around there? No man, man, James Washington, Rod Jerry, Jerry saw the show right around the coat, right around the corter Man. That's gonna be a ramp up too, you know, twenty one day ramp up for James Washing Jaya Tibur gonna be in trouble. James's back. You gotta line up first, you got it's gonna be in this shirt. Sh let me go, boys, just in the Cowboy collects
Christmas collection out there sideline. You checked that new hood y'all tob that man. It was fire on the fire, That's what it is. Fire get it? The cowboy killing the stop for Christmas? Killing them? Where was the pros? My mad tober man? My bad James Watson is coming back. He's going down. Yeah yeah, I mean you Vodell Beckham Junior, come at me. Look at it. If there's somebody you know we took freaked up, I know Brown and somebody who should really be upset, it's jay It's Jalen Tolbor.
Because now Jayleen Toldbert he's he's gotten his medicine and for the first year he's got his medicine. And I think, I mean, look you gotta think of all the words that guy said before he came in here, and not to be a guy that's contributed on game that God has been in that healthy. He did that to himself. I'm gonna change the culture, right, come on, he big old spoon, open up here you go. And Odell just
turned thirty November fifth. He just turned thirty years so, I mean, come on, man, we'd be like the South Alabama Jaguars. Man. Look, I was hopeful for Jalen Tolbor. I thought he was gonna come in here and do well the Man show. I'll be that guy. And maybe Noah Brown. I mean, like Noah Brown is still around, may still doing this thing. I mean, nobody's talking about Noah Brown disrespected, disrespected. God ain't the disregard. He ain't dapping nobody ever that locker. No. Now, I just I'm
here to work. I'm just here to come to work. Man. It's cold work, man, cool world. Let it get a blank. He's still gonna chat. This is Fox still catching passes. He's had a good enough year to work. Even if he's not here next year, he'll he'll he'll catch around somewhere. You know, he's had a good movie. This man will be in the National Football League somewhere next year. There's no doubt about that. Full full faith in a man, full faith. Let's get a break. Let's get a break.
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good people right here. Man talking about a guy that went up there and went all the way through the campus, took his kids through the campus, had everything hanging up here for you not come on it. Don't be like that, man, No, we did We did not go to the campus, sir. It was it was a college recruiting day at at the highest local all that's right, that's right, Okay. I thought you went through the campus and did all that. The last time was in Ohio? Was a hall of fame?
Was it in Canton? Now other side? And now you're getting to the point where you're having to take trips to college, do college tours and all of that too, right, yeah, yeah, but we won't be going to Toledo. Wow. Wow, I feel a whoop comes right here. When I moved up to Cleveland from Austin, yeah, I bought clothes I never heard of Okay. Then the other thing that hit me, like first time, I am what didn't have clothes for this? Um so that that that put me in the hole
happened to buy clothes. Another thing that didn't I didn't understand hack was that the sun made guest appearances. Yeah it's a lot of gray. What it is today a day? Yeah, well where's the sun? This is what you get? And this was no, this was just no way I wanted to live like, no, no, So if it's me, I know, I know my children can't sit up here and gold people live with that son. So no, no, it's not happening. No, you almost right there, California people. Yeah you so young?
He still got Yeah, but I have an older daughter graduated from Howard University of my second oldest graduated from Texas Tech. You know what I mean? Yeah even been Yeah, and I lived in Cleveland, Okay, yeah, Cleveland, Toledo, big yeah, different. These are facts. He's not arguing with that, not nope, no, no, no, no me arguing that all he needed was a better offer. He would have he wouldn't have been in Toledo either. I had some nice The main ones that came down
to West Virginia. That's when they was like number two in the country. They had Pat White Slaton the boys. So I had West Vie, Michigan State, but they wanted me to play receiver and I wasn't getting hit. So I was like, nah, Cincinnati and then Toledo, yeah, bro, yeah, helped me understand. I wanted I had to play early. I wanted to play as soon as I stepped on campus, and in some other places I would I had to
wait my turn. So I was like, you know what, let me play early and ended up working out for the kid. You know, it worked out, but it worked out for the kid. But that's why I went that. I was I gotta play now. I want. I ain't want to wait. Nah. That was before the bread days. Man. Well I wasn't getting no bread like you know. So so when you caught on campus, did you find that other people had bread? Yeah, they started giving off the that they called it the turnover sock. You know something
in the side he yo, hey, yo one. I remember the time I Berry Larkin. I absolutely I love Barry Larkin. Berry Larkin is one of my all times and Barry Larkin's face Cincinnati and Lark went to school at Michigan. They got us and and I asked him myself, so how did they take care of your Michigan. It's like, oh, I sold programs on game day in the Big House, and what yeah, so program costs a dollar? He would get a hundred dollars program. You know. The love was like, hey, hey,
they knew who he was. That's the way to do it right there, Like, that's that's that's how they supposed to take care. We called it perdam that's how you dam Yeah, get that per damn baby, and most k state NA no U and T chick for late. You can't express, not even Rudi, not even man. They hit you with a check fil Well hopefully that changed that down to you and T is playing for the Conver championships. Yeah, no, they got everybody got the n il now, brother, the
n il is popping. They should get bushes his highsman back man all this, you know what I mean? And how about that? How about that? Get him in his bad you know, get it back to USC. Did it right, though, USC did it right. I mean, they took care of the family, They made sure everything was good. Man, come on, let he did it right. Then they took care of the boys. I like that. He was, Hey, Pete was going back to John John old j you know he can my best friend ac come, Yes he can, Yes
he can. Juice man, Hey man, I'll tell you man, the juice was the juice? Was he that guy that he? That juice was that dude? Man, first time I saw the juice was what was that movie back the funny movie back in the day or whatever the next si, that's what the first time I seen Jason juice cold man. The juice was cold man. He was man and and and I won't lie man. When I was there, you know, I was still one of those closet juice fans around campus with the juice jersey. Had a juice had a
juice jersey. But it was like, man, hide that guy. You ever check out that juice Twitter? Twitter is pretty good, man, Juice Twitter pretty good. We have not talked about young Dak Prescott here. Um, it's amazing what happens after That's a hell of a transition. That was I'm a profession you win some games, we don't, you know, we don't even bring him up, lose a game him he went, they went. It's like it was barely a part. We
don't say anything naturally, nothing nothing. It's it's amazing. Yeah I did call I don't bet, but I did call two touchdowns. It's like, hey, man, you don't have two touchdowns in this game. He got two touchdowns in tight end too. But but it is amazing that you know, you don't talk about him at all. If they win and cover like I think they should against the Coats, we will not talk about Dak Prescott again. And in some ways, I guess it's the gift and the curse
of who he is. Being the Dallas Cowboy quarterback. You get all the blame and the loss, and you get very little credit in the wins. Right now, that scout's rolling for Dak Prescott. Yeah, I mean it's all that starm when you got that thing on the side of your him, and man, you get all the critics that everybody loves to hate the Dallas Cowboys. I've come to notice that, like especially in the national media. I mean, they just love to just say, you know, he's just
not good enough. The guy could be twenty three or twenty five, two hundred seventy five yards three tubs, but he threw that one interception, that one and they're gonna put that under a microscope. Man. So he's got something that he's going to deal with for the rest of his career. He has to work to prove himself week in and week out to deserve the contract week in and week out. This damn if he do, damn if
he don't. We had Tad Prescott on and I mean he has some some some criticism for the media as well, and I think it's not misplaced when he says it. I mean he brings up the same point. I mean, it's it's when he loses, he's garbage. When he wins, mum's the word. Nobody has anything to say. It's because of the defensive but it's it's really gonna come down to the playoffs for that. If that's it, if he can win games in the playoffs, then he can shed everybody up. It was the same thing for Tony Romo.
I mean that that's the ultimate, you know, judgment barrier for cowboy quarterbacks. But you know, I just the amount of radio interviews I do or people, well, it's a forty million dollars quarterback. I was like, you know, Kyler Murray making forty six. Right, you want talk about you want talk about Kla Murray. But did you see what he said? Yeah, that's that's crazy, Kyler Murray coming out there throwing the coach out of there. Oh, I hear that.
We're structurally structively Yeah, you were structurally aft um talking about a play that they they Yeah. Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, it's just kind of interesting of what you look. You know this because you play here, there's more that comes with the forty million dollars or whatever it is. You're getting the forty nine million of Russell Wilson, There's there's other things that come with it, and that leadership component of it and how
you can you carry yourself with a franchise. That's never been a question about DRIs ever ever, but it is with certain players. And when you see Russ Wilson get yelled at by a defensive player in the whole les Broncos ride everybody playing around me and you had the Burns kid, the good, good defensive player from from Carolina. He's standing up there sniffing like he's becoming me. You got Justin Tucker on a plane laughing about Russell Wilson right and that kind of stuff, And you don't see
that with Dak Prescott. People people are and you know you're getting you played disrespect for Dak in the league. That's not afforded some other players here. But it's just very interesting once from time. Heck is you lose your stink, You're this play Cooper rush you win. It's like, uh hey, Michael Arson, that's it. You know, that's the real talk. Looking up kickers playing the Titans playing whack them? Oh your kicker kickers six yard? You know four? It did
something right, he did play. It was just like it was. I'm telling you, man, it's hilarious. And I noticed this too, how the press conferences go a lot more dudes in the dark press conference after a loss versus if the Cowboys win, a lot more people than kind of in the room. Yeah, it's it's a very interesting dynamic. Now I'll also say this, we're in the Cowboys US. There are a lot less available players. Yeah yeah, quick, there's a lot less available players. But but the quarterback will
always talking. He'll talk last year. So um, yes, I went and looked up Rocky yesterday too. Man. I appreciate that bro, there you go. But I'm gonna get it some way. I'm somehow I'm gonna get my get back. I'm thinking church socks and flip flops for the lost, y'all gonna with the joining the yeah, yeah, some kind of some gotta come. I gotta get some get back. I got to get my lig back. It's two forty six, so heck me thank you for show with Barry Church
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