Player's Lounge: Just Some Bitter Kool-Aid?

Danny McCray and Barry Church. And let us just get right to it. Church. Come on, get this whooping. Now, come on, get this whooping. Church. Okay, thirty was sixteen church. Now we all, we all went went went to church. Okay, we fought Danny and I followed you. Okay, we followed you in the picks here we followed you. And what did you lead us to church? You chose to drink the kool aid? Church? Where'd you lead us to church? Church? Man? Go ahead, go go on, now, floors, please explain y'all,

y'all day, I'm here, I'm here to take the licks. Man. I'll explain to y'all what happened after y'all get y'all fun out of the way. Go ahead. I understand y'all have been waiting for this for a week now, so I'll let y'all get y'all out the way, then i'll explain after. Now. You see, we didn't have to wait very long for this, right, he said, we've been waiting a week. It took a total of five days. It

took four day. They went on Sunday and then Churches all up into kool aid again telling us how we're gonna ride high to make this NFC championship and playoff run. And four days later you talk about a mud hole getting stuff in you. That is listen to Antonio Gibson has owned us for the twenty twenty season. That dude is gonna get paid just based off what he did to us. And it's only a rookie year. I mean,

this is a rookie company in here doing this. And Church got us out here, and and and I'm going back on myself because I knew I should have did it. As I was making my pick, I was like, you know what, I gotta pick with Church because I can't allow him to beat to beat me. Two weeks in a row. So I picked with my emotions and not my real mind when I knew that we wasn't gonna beat the risk gives me, I mean the football team because of the defense and because of how they ran

the ball on us the first week. And I still listen to notional dumbas. Retire your name. Please, it's over. I'll see you at Nick and Samson to check its own you knew he Do you want to add anything to that new d I'm gonna say back up what mccrai said with numbers in two games Antonio Gibson, who's

a running back but was a receiver at Memphis. So this is really, you know, the first time this dude is getting behind, you know, offensive line and running as a running back in two games against the Cowboys forty carries, two hundred forty three yards and four touchdowns. Church. This was a This was a winnable football game that the

Cowboy coaches, in my opinion, gave away. So I want you to go ahead and explain me the thinking from your man's bones, Fossil and Mike McCarthy about a fake punt in the fourth quarter of a four point game at your own twenty four yard line, go first and first and foremost. Man, I can't. I can't excuse what Big Mike did out there, him and his boy bones out there. Man, they made some mistakes, some crucial mistakes.

So I can't excuse those guys for that. And I was part of it, you know, I was part of the whole cool laid thing. I still I'm still there. It's just a little bitter right now. You know that the new batch then, the new batch of cool a we had just didn't have enough sugar in it. So it got kind of bitter on us. Man. But in all jokes aside, though, Man, I can't, I can't excuse what I saw on Thursday out there. I mean that

was that was a pure embarrassment. It was worse than the game we saw in Washington that they played up there earlier this year in Week seven. Um, you guys are right, man, Gibson. He's a man back there. He is a beast. He is a full grown man back there, and we wanted no parts of him, especially when he got to the second level. You could see, guys, they were just throwing arms out there, just trying to just

trying to show effort out there. He was running through all of us, and so overall, man, yeah, you know the cowboys, they took it l Thursday, they took it L. But but don't think we're out of this race yet. We are still. We're still or two. We need some help now, before it was it was up to us, before it was we got our own destiny in our hands. We need some help now. Look, I know y'all ain't believe it. In New York, they just was Danny Downes

for I don't know how long. Washington got a hamstring injury, and that gonna know what, we need something that gonna need somebody to beat him, all right, we need somebody to beat him. The disaster in Philadelphia, come on, that's almost as bad as we looked on Thursday. So look, overall, we still got a shot. We just need some help. So I'm still drinking the cool that I made a

fresh batch downstairs. I added a little bit more sugar, But I mean we're gonna break down the whole Washington get him a little bit later, but right now, just let y'all know I'm still on the sugar, still on the cool that it just needed a little bit more. Listen to church Listen, Church, Listen, Listen. I would look at you differently if you hopped off the train. That's late. So I'm glad you're sticking with it, even though you

go even though this is a second ship. All right, But listen, this is what I want to know personally from you. All right, because on previous episodes of The Players Loud, you explain how you and Mike y'all had a meeting and y'all talked about stuff that was gonna be changed, and listen that I want to know, like, so, did he listen to you? Did y'all come up with this? Was this some of them your ideas that he threw in there? What happened? I'm gonna tell you what Kellen

got in his ear. See look, that's exactly what happened. Man. Me and Mike had an understanding going on. We were gonna get through this this stretch of games with primarily running the ball and hoping, hoping our defense steps it up. But somebody got in his ear. I'm thinking it's Kelly,

you know what I'm saying. I'm thinking that's who got in his ear because some of those fourth down calls, I mean, we're gonna break it down a little bit later in the in the show, but some of those fourth down calls were just no, no, go ahead, break go ahead, break it down? Which one? Which one? Do y'all want to break down? First? Yaches fourth and inches? This is what this boggles me about this, this Cowboys coaching staff, and just this Cowboys team in general. You

paid a guy ninety million dollars. He's in your backfield, ninety million dollars. He probably weighs around two thirty. If he just falls forward, he would get the first down I'm talking about. This is inches. This is less than an index finger or a pointer finger worth to get the first down. And we just had to throw a six yard come back to see who lamb. Not a quick slam, not a fifty fifty ball to where you might get an offense or a defensive pass interference, nothing

like that. We decided to throw a comeback to where if the dbs beat off the line of scrimmage, the receiver has to come back through the dB to get a catch and let alone. This is fourth and inches. This ain't fourth and five, fourth and four, fourth and three. This is fourth and inches. And we decide to do that. It's mind boggling. Man, it's mind boggling. I just gotta know who said it was Okay, that's the only thing

I want to know. Who was, Like, you know what, coach, this is a solid call right here, you got this who That's all I say what I want to know. Listen, and even first of all, we know it made no sense for you not to give the ball to Zeke

or do a simple quarterback sneak or fourth and inches. Right, but if you are going to go opposite of doing what the traditional way of getting fourth and inches says, who was the hot receiver in the game, who is making one hundred million dollars, Why God's name would you decide to throw it out there to Cede Lamb when all right, like everything that you threw it, Amari Cooper, this game was a w And youre telling me that you switch him out and you throw the ball to

Cede Lamb on this bigger place. It don't make no sense. It goes to show you. It goes to show you who the Cowboys thing is their true number one receiver, whether it be right or wrong, it goes to show you that they think in their eyes, Cede Lamb is that guy, and he's the guy that you need to go to and clutch down. I think it's there wrong. I think you're right about them, Mary Cooper. They should have fed him. They've been feeding him the ball all game and he's been producing. But for them to go

to that moment, it's mind boggling. Man, it is mind boggled. They forgot about my man in the second half. Let's not go the whole game. We're gonna talk about that too, because I'm sitting here like, hold on, you're telling me or Mary Cooper is doing all this keeping us in

the game even if you're not catching it. He getting passing the furiouses, getting you in the rid zone, getting you in a position to score, and then all of a sudden you go disappear on the dude and I don't see him being featured in the game at all in the second half. When I'm in my mind, I'm like, throw it to him. It's the only it's the only thing that you got this winning. Just continue to throw

it to him, and we don't do it. It makes no sense to meet Keller Moran got his own way this week and just crushed it like he's been doing their previous games, get nineteen the ball. I don't I don't understand why only good things happen when you get this dude the ball. And this is exactly what's been going on in the Cowboys the past couple of years. I mean, just inconsistent. You know, one game, we'll praise Keller,

We'll say, man, what a what a game? Did you see how he kept that defense off balance and he mixed in the run. In the past, he's done such an incredible job. And then it comes to this game and we're like, yo, what fourth and inches you want to throw the ball to come back? And he knows he was dead wrong. If he's the one that's calling these calls, he knows he was dead wrong because later on there was a fourth and one and they decided to snick the ball with Andy Dalton. So for me overall,

I mean, it's just it's just half crashing. It just sums up. You know, this Cowboys team these past a couple of is just up and down, inconsistent. I go back to what I said before, this was a winnable football game. You looked at the line for Alex Smith as a quarterback. Okay, Alex Smith nineteen to twenty six, one hundred forty nine yards, one interception, and one touchdown

Kellen Moore. When I looked at the play calls here, Dallas had fifty seven offensive plays, thirty five passes, eighteen runs. Scott Turner, the offensive coordinator for Washington, had sixty six plays, had twenty seven passes versus thirty six runs, and they kept the ball for thirty six minutes. Washington wasn't taking Terry McLaurin and beating you down the field with him. I know he was on my fantasy team. He never broke anything for a big long touchdown like he did before.

They nickeled and dined you with the run and then passes to the running back in the tight end. I mean, this was as winnable a football game as you'll ever see, and the cowboy coaches gave it away. Twenty one points for Washington in the fourth. Of those three touchdown drives they were, there were two of them that were a grand total of one play. It was the Antonio Gibson Um twenty three yard touchdown run after the fake punt they made it twenty three sixteen and then Um after

it was thirty four to sixteen. It was the interception by Sweat that he returned. That was one play Drive forty one to sixteen. I mean this was terrible. I mean this was just absolutely terrible. And Barry, I've lost faith. Okay, I've lost faith in the twenty twenty season because this was you giving it away. Okay, you gave this to Washington, you gave it away, you said we don't want it.

This is absolutely so hard to watch. I felt bad for those cowboy fans who paid their good money and took their Thanksgiving Day to go out there and watch decisions made like this. I feel bad those folks. When did you lose faith? You just lost faith on Thursday? You know you have him going three, you have him going three and three and thirteen. You lost faith on Thursday. You know that, you know that that that deal what you said, they had a slim you know, slim shot.

Like I'm looking at listening to Barry and listen to the guy in the Channel five Pat Do and he's like, well, you know it could. And then listen to another friend of mine, the Hall of Fame writers, like they're gonna win this division just based on everything around. I'm like, okay, Okay, then I saw this. Then I just saw I said, man, no, man, no, let me just stop. Let me get back to what I was doing. Let's look at the draft, let's try to see get it for that time. A bad match up,

no match up all around. This is what This is what Church saw. This, This is what Church saw that that made him believe that that things are going to change. Pittsburgh comes in here on a trap game, and they played down to our level and we get somehow close to beating them at church is like, oh yeah, this is the time. The Vikings come in here year and they had just won three three straight, but they had

been absolutely horrible before then. So and it's still with Kirk Cousins and them, so they weren't just you know, all American team, and we beat them in churches like oh they're rolling. We beat somebody with a losing record and this is a competitive team. So now it's gonna change the channel for us. We're gonna win. And then Washington came out here and said, remember what we did see you last month? Hold my bill, what our third

three quarterback and knew it? And knew it? You said, you pointed out like perfectly not because Alex Smith wasn't throwing the ball down the field. I'm taking these passes, those Deacon dumps. If you think about the game plan that Washington came up with, it was taking advantage of our linebackers. And they did that the entire game. They took advantage of our front seven. They put their running backs out in the flat, they put the tight ends out there, and they ran the ball around the corner

and up the middle. The off secondary didn't have to do much except make the tackles once they got to the second level because they went out there and they said, we are going to get our guys messed up on your on your linebackers, run up the middle and get your front seventh, and we're gonna do it until you stop us. And we couldn't do it. And we couldn't. We couldn't tackle at all. And that's what the thing was with this team, man, And it bothers me with

this defense. It's the long downs. It's the second in twenties that for some reason, I don't know what it is, but we'll always leave. You know, a guy in a flat wide open, he catches it, and you think, all right, everybody's just gonna rally up and we'll tackle him for a five yard game, make it third and fifteen whatever. But for some reason we just can't do We just

can't open feel tackle and this. These second and twenties automatically turn into third and fives and they're manageable third downs. And we continually see this each and every game when we know if we can just get them to that third and long, we can have a chance to get off the field. It just happens each and every game. And it was just another case in Washington. They were able to convert those second and longs to make third and manageables, keep the drive going. And once I goten

a reis on, our defense just wasn't having it. Gentleman, here is one, in my opinion, the big problem I saw in this game. Here's Washington that came in with a conservative game plan and just gave you the numbers. There was conservative because they simply said this, we're gonna wait on them to make a mistake. We know they gonna turn the ball over. They turned the ball over every game. And what happened. You got two turnovers in the football game. And you know, and if you to me,

the fake pump was really another turnovers. That's three turnovers in the game. You made it. The fourth instance is the turnover yeah yes, so so yes you you made it easy. It was just as simple as hey, man, we we don't have to do much. We're just gonna play defense and wait for them to mess up. And that's what happened. And that's where I would I say I've lost faith. I'm sorry. Eleven games in and this is what this is what's being displayed. You know how

tough I was. You know how tough I was? Oh, Jason Garrett, you know it, man, you know it's it's worse now. This staff is worse than what we saw last year. Man, you don't run a fake putt like that on Madden. You don't do that on your old man. Man, to feel your side of the fifty yard line was just it was just you're twenty four. Not only just your twenty four, you're twenty four and and just dude running it's ten year you got you got old Cedric Wilson running ten yards like what do you? Where are

you going? What that guy in church called in church call Big Mike because he over talking about it was a good call. I'm like, listen, I know you gotta back your guys up, but please, I can't come on, man, not on that one, Not on that one. Man. Not only was it fourth and ten, but they ran a double reverse to I mean, the guy has to run fifteen yards to get a scrimmage, you might as well for that. It was basically got to be twenty five yards. But for how far back he was where you need

to get you like, twenty five yards. It's just ridiculous, fan, It's absolutely ridiculous. Okay, let us we gotta take a time out here. Okay, we gotta take our first break. All right, when we come back, we got a litany of things you've got to get into here. We gotta get into Ezekiel. We got to get into the offensive block. Um that that Tyson fight, we gotta get that. And of course not to Dallas got Monday night for Dixon's right here on the players. I was right to buy

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Barry Church and Danny mccraig. Church believed before the last game that the Cowboys were going to go ahead and win the division and that he still hold on hold on the way to say, no, no, I'm still on the boat you're talking about. I believe that, like it was past tense. Now we still got a chance. Don't don't get it twisted. We still and all you said we are you said we are going to win now as we have a chance. So you're backing off a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah, I told y'all.

I told y'all the kool a was a little bitter. And now instead of having our you know, our destiny in our own hands, we need some help, so I mean, and we still got a chance though, all right, However, the writing us off like that if there if man who knows what would have happened. But you know, to make those sick able to put sixty was nah, nah, you already know what double G brains to the table, so he wouldn't have been with all that. But that's

a story for another day, you know. That's all that is, so who looked who looked worse last week? The Cowboys, the Lions, or the Bears last night. I gotta go

to to go the Lions on this one, man. I mean like their whole organization has been pathetic these past couple of years, ever since they brought in Matt Patricia to come down there and be their coach, because I guess they said Colwell wasn't winning enough games, even though he went nine and seven and went to the playoffs twice, something that Patricia has yet to do in his tenure there. So for me, you know, of the Detroit just looks pathetic.

They don't know what to do as an organization, especially and it starts at the top of their head coach. So for me, they just look like a pathetic organization all around. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Detroit. I think it's I think it's pretty clear to knew it that you didn't bring up Denver because they actually played better than I thought they were gonna play, So they weren't

even the worst team to play this this weekend. Yeah, I'm getting it to Detroit, but we're very very very very close second as far as and and that's listen. And that's and that's only. That's only because Matt Patricia has been sticking up the joint for years. And this is just eleven games in for this season. But we can catch up at this rate, We'll catch up fairly quickly. The disrespect on this show is at an all time We as bad as the Oh my goodness, Church. What

was the score to the game? Were we close to beat Washington? I mean it was twenty to sixteen until no, No, what was the final score? Bro? Let to throw the game? No? What was the what was he ego? Here? Ego? Save the points? May you want to recount new it? Did you want to recount out him? Bro? I don't know where you got going on here? See for me, I look at Matt Naggie, who first time head cold with

a quarterback. That dude. We knew when mitchter Trubisky was walking out there for Sunday that football it was gonna be a bad night, and he was as bad as we thought he would beat. Matt Patricia's been bad first time head coach. But I was the guy who was saying, once Mike McCarthy got hired, you got a super Bowl winning coach in town, that we're going to see smart

decisions made, We're going to see things done correctly. They spent all this time in his barn in the winter, but his coach and said that he was gonna be ready to go. I was the dude drinking all the kool ai, singing this man's praises and what do I watch? What does America? America watched America laughing at the cowboys on Twitter. I got friends who are like, man, I can't even wear my cowboys tough here Thanksgiving? Did it because I'm getting clown and you know what clown rightfully?

So let's run a fake putt. But wait minute again, I mean, it's not like you just hey, we're about to pull you because we had done it all year. They were sitting here waiting on like, oh gosh, and I'm watching Antonio Gibson. I'm like Antonio Gibson a j Brown, but he's showing up looking like Jim Brown. Like again, Danny, when's the last time Washington swept the cow with like twenty twelve? Listen, this is new, this is new. They

can't even remember. I listen. I want to know. I need to know you Guys's votes on because this has been going on for a while now. It's fossile asking or letting McCarthy know that he's about to run these punts,

or he catching this dude by surprise. It's McCarthy out there looking like we're about the punt, and then all of a sudden, you know, he has no ideas going on because in my mind, in my mind, like you said, louis the credentials for Mike McCarthy, I just don't believe that they would allow him to make the decision to run that type of punt that he had to watch during the week, had to watch them practice on it, and say, at the twenty four yard line, this is

the time when we want to run a reverse with a possible pass for a first down. Like there's no there's no way, there's no way. To the punter, to the punter who's been in three weeks, this guy so so so so, tell me Church, Church is fossil. It's fossil letting McCarthy. No one's he kissing him my guard man, I'm gonna be honest with you on this one. Man. He's catching him off. Guard man. This ain't big, all right, This ain't got nothing with Bones is over there and

make you can see what once the playlist happen. He didn't go the way Bones thought it was gonna go. He started the panick and he's looking around. He got his mask like this all man, what the he? That happened? All hey, Mike, I'm sorry, Mike. I told him to do this. They didn't do that. It wasn't the look. I could already see the body language. Man, this is all on Bones. I can't let Big Mike go out like that. This is a super Bowl on the coach. He wouldn't make those type of decisions on his own.

Twenty He thought it was a roo and he was giving the thumbs up to Bones like, hey, this is a regular punt, right and you know Bones over there like little dude, you know, my friend. And then what happened. There was some bull jot. There was a bull job. You heard the press cat afterwards he sat up there, Yeah, yeah, we thought it was good, and he was about, you know, you gotta be aggressive. You know you can't. You gotta try.

I mean, he defended it and was getting a little salty with the media too, so he was defending it um After the game with the media, and then he defended it today on his ONNI Fire Through the Fan radio show with and R J. Chopping. So he defended and defended what we're saying. You know what, man, No, he's a team game player. He ain't want to throw bones under the under the bus like that. He's a

team player. But believe it, behind closed doors, he was letting bones have it, like you can't make a decision like that. I don't know. Just this week, the play calls yet I don't understand hello, you know, but you know,

Hello turns up there with Michael no One. What you're saying ain't making no sense because like we said, this, this ain't This ain't the first time that the fake punt is not worth all right, So you're telling me after the first one, Mike McCarthy, they say something to him, you tell them me all of a sudden, this dude, just keep on disrespective accarthy like that, like yeah, running and whatever, I run and running. There's some disrespectful people in this world. Man. I'm just hey, I don't know.

I don't know what's going on on that sideline, but it ain't got nothing to do a big mic man. I ain't saying and knew it like that and knew it. This is what we're gonna do for you knew it because we we're finally going to start getting you to stop saying you two church because you just said it. He's a super Bowl winning coach, And what does that mean if you look at you look at the history out No, if you look at the history of mc McCarthy, he won one super Bowl. Many on the outside looking

in would say he should have won multiple. All right, so you can look at this two ways. You can look at this two ways. Just because you won a super Bowl does not absolve you from from making dumb coaching decisions. And he's been doing it all year. And he also also did the packers let him go? I mean, so let's stop acting like this is like this is a guy who was like this all star just sitting on the sideline. He was out of world for a year, like nobody picked him up. So so he can make

these mistakes. One of the super Bowl does not mean that you were making no dumb coaching mistakes. And he's showing us why Peterson is also doing the same thing out there in Philly. He won a super Bowl and look at him and who cares we're talking about this year? Yes, finished this here from the standpoint, not only did green Bay let him go? Green Bay let him go, brought in the dude who was the first time head coach. They got better, they got okay, But I don't want

to hear the Rodgers. They got Rodgers, they had hand Ruggy. They ain't got they don't got a Hall of Fame quarterback right there. That's not McCarthy had him. Minute turned it all on himself. McCarty had him though, all jokes aside. McCarthy play caller was downright terrible. Like, I can't even, I can't above, I can't give him an excuse. I gotta quit bull crapping a Rouley. Look, that was a

terrible call. I don't know what. I don't know what they were thinking together they were they were tripping on that one. But let the way back to this green Bay. He got Aaron Rodgers out there that let's not let's not act like he just going out there with with Andy Dalton or something like that. So I don't know about all that in Green Bay. So why was so if he had Aaron based on what you said he had Aaron Rodgers, So why was his tenure at the end,

Why was his tenure at the end so bad? And then you get a new dude, first time head coach, who comes in here and they go thirteen and three so and get to the NX he hurt. So when Aaron Rodgers hurt that last year, McCarthy was there and they was out there with brit Huntley. He did have some injuries one the year with with with Hudley and and and I think I was as now I was two years before that. It was two years before I had That was a year that was he dumb dumb

here and took Aaron Riders in the Fantasy League. So you know, you always remember the bad Fantasy league teams like, oh my gosh, this dude's hurt again. I watched Brett Hunley, whos a cap. I'm like, oh, now, there's no chance with this guy out there. So no two years before the end, Okay, So I got that part of it. Rep Uh. I want to make sure we dive into

this before we get too far apart. Ezekiel Elliott had ten carries in the football game, and I'm watching Antonio Gibson get twenty on the other side, ten carries thirty two yards and oh, by the way, he had another fumble. And I feel bad for skip Pete because skip Pete might get fired because this dude's been dropping the ball like crazy. Why will they not commit to this running back that they're paying fifteen million dollars a year too.

That's a tough question. And overall, I mean, I'm gonna ask y'all, one, do you think he deserves more carries? I mean, let's not. I mean, he's not really out there just lighting it on fire. Every time he touches the ball. It's more like two or three yards in a cloud of dust. And he's having a problem. He had listen, fumbles this year. He's gonna five his total total career before this. So I mean, I I agree with that. I think he should get the ball, but

I mean he ain't really performing that great now. Now listen to he was not getting the carriage that we thought that he deserved before he started fumbling. All right, so this is running across the entire team. I'm not gonna put it just on the Zeke deserve more carriage because I believe he does so now because he fumbled five times previously, he went out there and the dude fumbled the ball. All right, it happened. This is he You still listen, listen, you still so you just abandoned

the running game because he fumbled. With with your second I'm saying, he went out there and fumble, you still gotta give him the ball. He got two running backs out there, that's acting. You still gotta run them. He's gonna run them ten times. But it's not just Zeke. It is also Amari Cooper. So I'm not putting this on the fact that they think that Zeke says, Zeke fumbling that's the reason he's not getting the ball, because Amari Cooper ain't then done not to deserve the ball,

and he ain't getting it either. So to me, it's in the play calling. It's maybe you're trying to be too creative. Maybe you got too many weapons out there, you're trying to be too cute running double reverses. The double reverses now try to trickle down from our offense down to the punt team. Like Kellen mor Look obviously has too much influence on anything that has to do

with trying to get the first down. Zeke should get more carries, fumble it or not, because right now, the truth of the fact is we are three and eight. You really can't get much worse. Getting him in the ball, Let him earn his ninety, give him Murray Cooper the ball, let him earn his one. Hunt. He's also a big reason why we're three and eight, though it ain't like you know, he's just like all he got a partners too. Now.

But what else she's gonna do? Though we're talking about before, what is going to be your best opportunity to win games. It's going to be trying to run the football and keeping your defense off the field. You got a better shot of winning these games with twenty one and trying to feature twenty one and twenty. Then you do try to sit up here, drop back and keep on chunking the ball. You threw the ball, but thirty five times thirty five times. Man. Now go back to what we

saw Alex Smith. They were asking this dude to win the game, and you know what, it was just fine mine. I mean, Alex Smith nineteen to twenty six, one hundred forty ninyards. You got two teams who basically were the same two teams that were struggling, and one team decided we'll be conservative and we'll wait for these other dudes over here to make some mistakes. And the Cowboys before

they throw, they make they make mistakes. And yes, Zeke fumbled. Now, okay, if fumbling at some point times, you want to sit them down, if you want to give them some carries, a pot fun. But I'm telling you you gotta have to sit around here, in my opinion, and tried to run the football ten carries for fifteen million dollars year back. That is just crazy. That is just absolutely crazy. I'm sorry, I can't. I can't go with him. I can't do it. He look, I agree, I agree with y'all saying that

he needs to get the ball more. It's just I think, if it comes down, we need a more creative way of getting him the ball. Just handing him just turning around and handing him the ball ten times. I don't think that's gonna work. Hello, a screen, exactly, Give him some screens, give them some bubble screens, give him some dumpops in the flat, some checkdowns, let him do something that way. But just hunting around and just handing on the ball. I think the days of that are just

not gonna help us right now. I think we got to find more ways of getting in the ball. Look at what but look what Cleveland does. Man, Cleveland came in here and showed you the way they used three, three and seven yards. I mean, they're not cland as bad as it, as bad as that sounds, we're not Cleveland this year. We're not. I mean we're not even close to what they're in the run game, look at what we just had. Those are two beastly running backs that Zeke has just not been able to be this year.

Off the line or whatever you want to call it, he just hasn't been able to do it. If if killing Moore mixed in Zeke with just like he did in the first half and gave him a few more carries, we would be totally fine with that because the game had opened up. You had cool going down the field. You still have to respect Gallup, you still had Ceedee Lamb coming on just sleeve. They had to respect every every offensive weapon on your team they had to respect.

Once you cut that down and stopped doing that, yeah, of course Zeke's gonna have a problem, right because at first, when you come in there, you're like, all, we're gonna stack the box. And then you come out there and you're making respect you by having the cover of Mark Cooper down the field. Now you got seven in the box. Now it's time for Zeke to get in there and run. And then when you go away from that, now it's

eight back in the box. And you said, Ni, he threw about thirty five times or Mark Cooper had eight targets, absolutely not acceptable. And then Zeke has ten carris. That's eighteen snaps focusing on those two most important players on your team out of what fifty seven you said we had. It don't make no sense. Fifty seven snaps you got, Amark Cooper got eight eight targets and Zeke got ten carries. No, it's no excuse for that. All right, let's take a

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on demand at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Christmas. All right, you are in the players Lounge, brought to you by Hotels dot Com and we scrugs long time Cowboys reported joined by two former Dallas Cowboys football players, Danny McCray and Barry Church. And a guy that you all knew very well, Marcus Paul, Cowboys strength and conditioning coach, who passed away last week. His daughter put on social media and this to me is the most remarkable thing about

this man's life. And there were a lot of remarkable things in a man who will help win five Super Bowl championships. He was a organ donor and saved four lives. That is amazing to me. That truly amazing. Yes, and I'm an organ doner myself. Something you could do on your driver's license just check that car. But um and as he was taken from the world far too soon at fifty four years old, he gave four other people during Thanksgiving holiday an opportunity to live, and that to

me is a remarkable thing about Marcus Paul. I just wanted to mention that I said, I know you guys knew him very well, but that that to me was simply amazing. And I did not want our show to pass and not recognize what Marcus Paul didn't being an organ done. It just goes to show you how, you know, amazing of a man he was. Even after death, he was still giving, I mean, and and in his life he was giving out the many players, I mean, each and every year, teaching them how to be better men.

And I mean, like you said, he was gone far too soon, but like he's even given in death. Man, it's amazing. Yeah, amazing guy and very very special. He could still be a blessing to others, you know, and give them, give them a second shot at life. So I mean, you know, not much more to be said, but we'll miss them for sure. Amen to that. All right, we have Monday Night football. The seven and three Seattle Seahawks take all the three, six and one Philadelphia Eagles.

Nostra damas. I will start with you. What is your prediction for this? One? Short and sweet Seattle twenty four Philly ten. That's it, there's obviously it's all I got right now, man, Yeah, yall, y'all them battered me and bruised me down to to just give him one sentence answers. Nowadays I'm gonna I'm gonna wait, wait, I'm gonna throw this in there too. Shout out to Randy Gregory bottom Way, who we didn't get to get the highlight. Who I thought?

Who I thought? I played a very good game. And uh, I'm going thirty five seventeen and I'm going with the Seahawks. Sound like you wanted to go Philly there? Absolutely not. I meant I need, I need, I need Miles Standers to have a big game. Other than that, No, I don't need anohing from Philly. I don't need Miles Stands to have a big game here. Um, so look, um, Philadelphia is struggling and talking about rolling out a Jalen

Hurts package. Um, yeah, I don't like what I'm what I'm here and here for Seattle's defense isn't very good. So give me a thirty three to fourteen Seattle win in this one. I think the defense may end up, you know, getting getting some points out of this tonight here. So um, let me let me ask you a quick one, real quick, Newly and Danny, do y'all think Carson Wentz survives after this year being in Philadelphia quarterback? Yes? Okay, money, the money, yes, yes, I do. I mean I don't

think they're going to Jalen Hurts. Uh. They're gonna stick this some out, you know. I think they're gonna blame it on some stuff, just like the other teams are struggling. COVID, no off season, no weapons. They're gonna they're gonna route that and then they're gonna try to go into the next season and say that this is the year to be gonna be better. But we've been waiting on Carson Wentz to be that guy for a long time, so I don't see it happening. You know how these gems

gems work. These guys don't everyone admit they made mistakes here, so they try to write them out as long as they can. So they'll ride out with Carson Winsday, give him a big deal. You look at Chicago, dude. Now they're sitting out here still trying to roll out Mitchell Trumisky instead of just admitting, you know, we made a mistake and move on. Los Angeles has made a mistake. Jared Goffin is not a franchise guy. You saw yesterday with this guy is out here looking around. He's just scared.

He's just not that guy. But they've given them the money, so they're going to go ahead and go forth with with with that. That's just how this this league works, all right. Now. I did not pay for that Mike Tyson fight. I didn't pay for it, but I didn't that. I don't think I missed that on the on the Tyson fight ended up with he and Roy Jones. But boy, I sure wish I could have seen that whole. Nate Robinson, well that was who. Yeah, it's it's hard to talk

to your friends after that. It's hard. It's hard to pick up the phone when somebody call you because you don't know they really feel a call to make fun of you. Check and see if you really are right and what really didn't make it? The best part of the show was my man Snoop Dog out there doing the comment Jake. But listen, he put the spotlight on they getting knocked out a little bit more than than he probably shouldn't have. But listen, it was all entertainment.

It was fun. Nate Whood should not be boxing anymore in his entire life. Man, look for six hundred dollars. Six hundred dollars, ain't no way they should have took that fight. I mean, there's there's nothing he could gain from this because if you knock, if you beat the dude Jake Paul All, everybody's gonna say, oh, you should have beat up on him. Anyways, he's only a YouTube guy. But if you lose, if you if you lose, and in the fashion he lost in, you ain't never gonna

live this down. He can't go outside the house for the next nine months and people are gonna straight clowner. He might get tried. Every time he goes to the mall or goes somewhere to pick out shoes anything, they're gonna look at him like, hey, what side shoes you were I think that is my size. I mean, everybody is going to try this dude, and to make matters worse.

You know, the internet is undefeated. When that man was laying on the ground knocked out, like, they took a picture in it, and it's been on memes throughout the whole day. I'm sure his kids can't. His kids are probably getting clowned at school. I mean, it just wasn't worth it. And then for him to go out there and tweet out beforehand, Hey, I'm doing this for all my NBA brothers, I'm doing this for the coach. And

then he went out there and got rocked. I mean he got her son Rockmand out there and went to the turf harder than I've seen anybody fall twice twice. He should have been bobbing. And we even get your hands up. Man, I don't know what to tell that man, but he's a man. It's bad for I'm gonna I'm gonna leave you with this one, all right, uh we we we as the cowboys right now, are Nate? I would play off his upponent, you said, he said, Nathan, get right if you want to fight and get your

credibility back. Yeah we we we we we are, Nate. I'll playoff chances. You know they knocking the smooth out the water right now, Bro, we have no ten Washington put the stomping on us, and it's gonna take a miracle for it for us to get to the six wards that you're talking about. So now I'm ready to eat. It's it's very tight. It's very clear Nate Robinson did not have people around him to tell the truth. He just got some yesha yeah man, you ready to get Yeah, yeah,

you got this man. You do that. I mean, that's very clear that that they they led this dude into this slaughter house, and you need to get you some better friends. Man. Better friends will just simply hey, man, this got ready for this, or at least be like Greg Hardy when he started the MMA thing, because I thought this was I thought this was gonna have to grank Hardy and man like, man, let me go knock this dude out. But he at least took some sucker

fights and just made sure he looked good. Um damn man, somebody told Nate wrong, you can't do that. You can't you can't take the wrong fight. You can't take the fighting Greg Greg Hardy whole different months of the Nate though, I'm gonna speaking now when he totally different. The doubts that I had about Nate I never had about Greg Hardy. He needed someone to release his anger. And that's why

that's that's what everybody think. You know, if there's a difference between professionally fighting and then just fighting somebody in the streets. I mean, if you saw Nate, he was trying to scoop him up, he was trying to do all this other stuff like nah, bad you gotta throw the hands and that's just something my guy didn't have. Man, he just just good. So was it was the fight

between Roy Jones and Tyson or draw Or. Like most people I followed on social media, they said, Tyson won this thing out right, since you guys paid the fifty bucks for he was destroying Roy Jones. Ribs man. Roy Jones probably in the bath right now, hurting. I mean, Mike, Mike, Mike still got it. Man. I wouldn't get in the ring with Mike Mike still got it. MA ain't no way, man. He couldn't pay me to getting there. Mike, Mike was

walking him down. The only the only thing that Roy had was a few jabs where he was kind of showboating a little bit, the little off balanced jobs. But Mike warmed down the whole the whole time. And you could tell after the fight, Roy was like, I don't know about fighting again. My body hurt. I still feel them things. He never he never lost his power. They say, Roy,

you're gonna fight him again? I don't know. I got to go home and talk to my family, you know, make sure it's safe for me, and uh and then I you know, you know, they made it. He didn't want to say no, but he was like, this ain't this, ain't safe. Get out of it. He knew he got beat up, he knew he lost. Oh Man, all right, gentlemen, So will and tomorrow's episode we'll dive into the Cowboys Ravens game that has been postponed supposed to be on Thursday.

COVID issues with the Ravens. Who was supposed to play the Steels tomorrow on NBC. So let's dive in that tomorrow, and hopefully we'll have a better understanding of of of the COVID cases for the Ravens and this whole Cowboys game that's getting moved back, And maybe this will help Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore and Bones Fossil come up and Mike Nolan come up with some better game plans to say, try to save a little bit less of

their season. That's Barry Church, dann create two former Dallas Cowboys players and all real question question, yes, question, man, Hey, I just want to let y'all know, man, we still got a chance. This thing ain't over you. We might have got embarrassed that the show still got a chance. Man cut the show he's embarrassing himself. He's embarrassing himself. Cut the show. He's you're embarrassing yourself. Church, you're embarrassing yourself.

It's a Titanic. We got a chance drowning. We got that man, Church, Church, That's what That's what Nate Robinson friends are telling Nate. You go back. It's not over. Hey, you can get up on the to Matt. Keep Hope alive, Baby, Hope alive. Chris Bean, Chris Bean, take us off the air. I'm done, i am done, done. Goodbye has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.