The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and Newi Scrugs. Hey, welcome to the Tuesday edition of the Players Lounge. She brought to you by Hotels dot Com. The newis Scrugs, longtime Cowboys reported, joined by two former Dallas Cowboys players. They played safety in the Silver Blue, Danny McCray and
Barry Church. All Right, here we are on a Tuesday, and I can't remember when's the last time all of us picked the Monday night football game correctly, because last night it happened. We all have Baltimore. Baltimore won the game. It's been a minute, Hey, it's been a long time. But that was a lot closer of a game than I thought. You know, I thought coming into that one U or Baltimore was gonna put it on Cleveland, being their little brother and all. But hey, man Baker showed up.
Baker and them boys showed up. And I tell you what, the best thing that ever happened to Baker might be the absence of O. B J. I don't know, man, but he's last couple of weeks. I don't know. First of all, the Church, Church, did you did you pick a spread or points for that game? Or did you just say that that Baltimore was gonna win. I just said Baltimore was gonna win, you know. Okay, so yes, so you're taking half, So you take a half of I said, I said, Baltimore is gonna win by six.
You did, but you didn't give a score. I was the only one that gave a score. But you said by you know what, they won by five? They won by five. I had um. I had him winning twenty six twenty one in a close game. So I thought of oh, so you got the five point okay, knew he I see you Church in last I said, again, look at New look at New y'all. I heard that slight man too, But I'm a brusher to listen. I
was really, I was, I was really. I really wanted to ask at the beginning of the show before we get into it, because I'm looking at Church's outfit right now, and he looked cold up top. He looked a little warm, warm with it. He looked a little warm with the shirt. I'm not sure if he got on pants or basketball shorts. But I'm trying to figure out where you up in Pittsburgh and down in Texas at the same time we
got on here with the outfit. I'm in Texas. But I tell you what, man, I just got done with my boy McCray aka Billy Blank's workout. Man, he didn't talk it earlier today. He just sent it to the to the group chat. So I ended up going into the garage and getting it in before the show. And that's why I'm a little You know, it's cold in the garage. I gotta keep the domee clean and uh you know that's the stuff is sweated out. So you know that that's where I'm at right now with the outfit.
You know, Okay, just checking Billy. When I lived in Romandotes, Billy Blanks's studio was right over there. It was off it was on Ventura Boulevard. Fan eisn't been touring Billy's. Billy's uh his studios right there. And remember we had a nice conversation and believe it or not, um over there training camp in Oxnard at the Camario outlet. He was buying shoes and I ended I ended up like hey, Billy blanks Man, because I got that tape. I can only do five minutes, man, I was, so I wore out.
He's like, it's okay, just keep on going, like na, bro, Not really I was. I was. I was sitting there, Brad gassy and this was the warm up man. Exactly. You gotta make one of the fat folks takes man where where we ain't ready to get up here and go like you were, like you were in a class and everybody else there but nice guy man, Billy and nice guy man. But that tape. But you know, make sure you've been exercise dual something. I mean that tape
at it from no beginning. So when I'm watching the game against Cleveland the Baltimore last night, here's what comes into my head over and over again. What they could have had had they continued to take my house Garrett number one from Arlington, which they did, and then instead of trading the pick taking DeShawn Watson. How good could the Cleveland Browns be? They would be scary team. That is a scary football team. If they have to dresses you know, church, you know I heard you say night
and day. And after watching the game last night and seeing that the Cleveland Browns are what nine and four, you know, I don't. I don't really know how much better they could get on top of this year. Baker Mayfield has had some questionable games, but he's been playing better as the season has war on. And I like the way that they're leaning on the running game versus having Baker Mayfield try to pass the ball the whole time.
So I think that Baker Mayfield being there allows them to run a scheme that fits for them in Cleveland. And if Shaun Watson was there, I think they will be trying to do some things a little differently. So I'm not sure. I actually liked the way Baker Mayfield has been playing recently, and if he keeps this up and they keep on depending on the ring game, I
think they got the right pick. Well, I'll say this, if Deshaun Watson's there, Hugh Jackson may be there because because they would have there to Kevin Jobs, but everybody fired because they decided they were going to take the Shaun Kaiser in the second round and he couldn't play, and then they had Cody Kessler. I mean it was just a mess or quarterbacks, the three. I think when you mess up the quarterback spot, you set yourself back
for a minute. Man, it is bad, bad, bad. By the way, one reason why I brought up Cleveland was getting to this. So Cleveland's next opponent is the New York Giants, and the Cleveland Giant game took the Dallas Cowboys San Francisco forty nine er, a game which is
supposed to be on Sunday night. So the Cowboys now play at noon against the Niners over the Jerry World, and then Cleveland and the Giants get that spot like that the Cowboys are supposed to have with the forty nine ers, and and and I know, I know we said that that. You know, the coaches and the players are messing with Jerry's money. But realistically, you know, the forty nine ers aren't really doing much and the Cowboys
aren't doing much. So I think it's the onus is on both of these teams, and in New York and Cleveland are both fighting for playoffs spots. So I think it's a fair a fair thing. But usually, you know, the Cowboys have something to fight for, and I think everybody's just giving up on the forty ninets and the Cowboys, so it is nobody wants to really watch it. But this has never happened, Danny. I mean, even when the Cowboys had questionable playoff hopes, um, they found a way
to get them on. And I go back to, uh, maybe it's about three years ago. It was a game in Oakland and and the Cowboys were, you know, they were struggling trying to make it. The Raids are struggling trying to make it. I ended up calling one of my PR buddies over at the NBC Sports, I said, what do you think? And he said, if there's any mathematical way that these two teams are there, we're gonna try and get it in. And of course they were.
And it ended up being a very good game that came down to the end and then uh, Derek Carr tried to run for the end zone. He dies for the pylon and fumbles the ball out of bounds. I think Jeff Heath ended up hitting him and the Cowboys ended up winning a game. But they've always found their way until Mike McCarthy showed up and that ended. That's over. So this Sunday Night Football, and this is a new
game now. Man. This is why, this is why Dak Prescott is worth forty million, because I can almost guarantee you that if he was the starting quarterback for this game, they wouldn't have got flexed out of flexed out of the prop time game. Yeah, I thought they would be in this position if he was a starting quarterback, they might be in playoff position right now. So they definitely wouldn't have got flexed out of this one. Tay the man, Dak Prescott, that that made up for a whole lot.
We're seeing that. So um, let's leave this into Mike McCarthy, gentleman. Every Tuesday at eight thirty one one h five three the Fan, Jerry Jones does his radio show and Jerry was asked about Mike McCarthy coming back next year. And it all started with a report over the weekend from Ian Rapp report of NFL Network that he said, Hey, his sources with the Cowboys are telling him that Mike
McCarthy's coming back. Then Stephen Jones is asked about it yesterday on the Fantas seems like, of course, Mike McCarthy's coming back. So today it was Jerry's turn to be asked a question. Here's what he had to say to
Sean and our Jack. Not one time, not one time, have I been in any discussion, had any dream been sitting by myself, Have I given given a thought to anything but Mike McCarthy being our coach next year and being our coach in the future, And in the hell something like that could get going with a conversation with Steven or anybody else about whether McCarthy's going to be the coach or not is ridiculous. Now just think about it.
We've just made the move to start down the road with our coach, and we'll all understand that continuity really sticking with a plan and having a long term plan to put your team together around a particular coach and his style and his ability to just put a put a winning team on the field. He won't do it the same way he did it in Green Bay. I'm
talking Mike McCarthy. But the facts are, does he have the background, does he have the experience, does he have the skill set, does he have the ability to motivate? Does he have the knowledge the entrance? Yes, and that's why we hired him. But We sure didn't hire him to sit here and have a rough year right out the door. Some of your greatest jobs that have been done coaching for the Dallas Cowboys have had a very unimpressive start, whether it be coach Landry or whether it
be Jimmy Johnson or even Bill. Those those starts have not been something that had Super Bowl written all over them, but still they evolved into being a part of some great teams. The jobs that you do, you've got to handicap and you've got to look into why what's happening to you? Why it's happening to you. And unless you all of a sudden have somebody that has just totally different persons than they were when they were having their success,
their backgrounds can make a lot of difference here. And I've been known to stick with these guys for in early troubled times on coaching. Jerry, you mentioned that they don't understand. Frankly, just so how ridiculous this conversation is in terms of it actually having any meat on the ball. Is I've never even I don't think I've even dreamed the thought of might not be in the cove. All right,
that's the hall of famer Jerry Jones. His take this morning about Mike McCarthy and Jerry was wrong on one thing. Bill Parcels went ten and six with Quincy Carter's quarterback in the playoffs his first year here with the Cowboys. So Bill Parcells started off with the game busters. I remember that and covered through the teams. So it's ridiculous he says about Mike McCarthy not being back. Mccrag your
take on what you just heard. I mean, his reasoning makes sense, but I don't think it's ridiculous for anybody to for it to be in their mind just based off what we've been seeing on the field. Some of the things you're hearing with you know, we got anonymous, you know, coming out, we got players not playing hard on defense and him having to talk about hustling and finishing to the ball. All these things you know, they
leave up to the head man. So when you hear stuff like this and you see the play that's been on the field, I think it's reasonable to questions should he come back. But knowing Jerry, we know that he's gonna have McCarthy's back, and you know, and stick with him and see how this thing plays. Out for the next few years. Yeah, And for me, I think it, like mccrai said, it's fair to question, just because the
expectations we had coming into this season. We thought, yeah, it was gonna be playoffs, it was gonna be a playoff year. But it didn't happen that way. So people are gonna question, the rumblings are gonna get out there. But I agree with Jerry. I mean, you gotta give him at least one more year. There's too many variables. There's too many things going on this season that kind of hampered his first his goal around season with the Cowboys.
I mean, like we mentioned yesterday, there's no off season, many camps, training camps, preseason, all that, and we're putting into a new system into account and with all that, the injuries. We still got to talk about the injuries that happened on both sides of the ball. So for me, I gotta give him at least one more goal around,
one more goal around, hopefully everybody can stay healthy. Who have a full off season under his belt, so he'll get to implement his philosophy on what he wants the players to do and what he thinks is acceptable and what he thinks is not acceptable, and hopefully he can get this team back to where they need to go. I think what this team needs is just accountability, and hopefully during the off season he can and strew that
onto his team. That a look, man, we're only as good as our weakest links, so we got to keep everybody accountable, and hopefully he's able to put that onto his team with a full off season. I say, you got to give him one more go around. But somebody, somebody got to fall on the sword. I don't know if it's if it's Mike Nolan, I don't know if it's Keller Moore, I don't know if it's the special
team's coordinator. Whoever it is, somebody got to fall on the sword, because I guarantee fans will not be happy if this full coaching staff as a whole unit comes back next year for another girl around. I still want to know what the system is. I'll go ahead and no bad no, no, no, go ahead, day no. I want to know what is the new system that we have the input, especially offensively. Keller Moore is still the offensive coordinator. All right, we did everything everything the same
extep Give zeke the ball all right. And on defense, yeah, I understand that we put in the three four versus the four to three special teams is special teams. The only thing that we're doing around those special teams is running fakes and getting caught doing it. All right, Defense, to me is the big question mark. But offensively, I don't understand, you know, us not having off season, the new scheme and all this. I mean, Ceedee Lamb's knew, Amari Cooper has been here, Dalla's been here, Dak has
been here, Zeke has been here. There's a lot of guys who are running some of the same stuff that they see last year. And we still started off the season struggling in the first half and now we're struggling. You know what, our what our second string quarterback as well to put up points on the board. But what I think is what what what you know has hurt us most this season? It's been the defense. The defense has hampered us the most part of this this season.
And that's the only new system that was brought into this year. Was there was that defensive system with Mike Nolan Because you said Kellen Moore's coming back and he had the same terminology or implanted the same offensive strategy as we did last year. So to me, it was all on the defense. And we see what happened here. So I think next year, if he can get a full off season with a full defense under his under his regime, I think they'll play a little bit better.
Wait with Nola, No, no, no, no, not with Big Mike. No, somebody gotta go, and it's gonna be Big Mike. So they're gonna put it in. They're gonna put it in the new defense with you know, a whole nother scheme. They're gonna go through the same thing again, and then they're gonna have to get a defense a whole year. I'm just hopefully they have an off season. That's all I'm saying. Hopefully they have an off season that defense in. Let's take a break, Jerry Jones handing out a pardon
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studios as WBC Mortgage Virtual home studios. I'm new to be Strugs, long time Cowboys reporter, joined by former Dallas Cowboys players Barry Church and Danny mccraig. So Jerry Jones with his weekly visit on one oh five three the Fan with Sean and r J. He was asked about what he likes about Mike McCarthy as he came out and said, it's ridiculous to even think about Mike McCarthy not being the head coach for the Cowboys next year. Here's you. Oh. I like the way that he's basically
handled the situation with COVID. I like his I like his interaction with players. I like his football intelligence, or the way he goes about his philosophy. I like all of that. I like his risk taking. You're not going to see it manifests itself the same way every time. But all of those kinds of things are every bit what I could have hoped for one hired him as coach. But more importantly, he's done this to sit in this
first rodeo. He's done it. I think that is important. Yes, I've gone with guys that haven't done it before relative to this level, but he's done it. He's got a great background. He's got a great He's been exposed to a lot of good coaches and this day and time, philosophically, I like his philosophy. He knows you can't go too far on one side of the ball or the other. You'll wear the other side out, or you'll you'll you will be flawed on one side if you if you
just gotta kind of have it down the middle. They have that word. There's a big word when you say compliment each other, the defense, the offense, the special teams. I like what we're trying to do on special teams. I love our special teams code boom, there you go. Jerry Jones pardoned, he pardoned, bones fossil. Okay, how about that? How about that? McRae, how about that? Huh? How about that? Yeah? I don't know, you know, you know, like I said, I always tell the church on the break, it sounds
like the whole gang is coming back. Man. I think that everybody is getting the free pass this year. Um. I've watched the special teams play and I've watched some of the you know, the crazy calls that we've made. I think they are covering well their coverage teams are are playing well. We've seen Tony Pollard, you know, he had two big returns over the last couple of weeks. Other than that, we haven't really seen much out of
the return game. And these fake punts and getting caught, you know, getting caught off guard with face, getting running against us and getting lucky with them having illegal formasons and false starts. That that's the only things that saved us from being a horrible prepared special team. So, I mean, I don't see it, but I'm sure he loves what I was supposed to team coach has done in the past, just as much as he's loved what Mike McCarthy has done in the past. We just need to see the
past come to the future. Man, Look, I'm confused by that whole spill. My boy just went on right there, My boy, Jerry just went on because look, let me tell you something. Let's let's break down the first part. He was talking about how he loved the risk, risk taking Big Mike and Mike McCarthy. Now, look, man, I don't I don't want to. There's a difference between risk
taking and just not smart calls. Let's go back to that fourth and ten and where We've decided to run a double reverse fake with a pass by a wide receiver. Now would you guys call that risk taking or would you just call that a not smart decision? I'm thinking that we're there's just a bad decision like a risk's taking. Is is fourth and two. Let me let me give it to Zeke in the back and let me see if he can pound a couple of yards out. Not smart decision is fourth and inches and we decided to
throw a hitch to Cdee Lamb. I mean, it's just just things like that, these head scratching moments with Mark Mike McCarthy is how does I don't call him risk taking? I just call him not smart decision because I don't want to call him dumb decisions. Now we go over to the special teams coach. He says he likes what he's doing, what he's seeing in our special teams. Was he there when when hook them left missed three of those field goals? To me, I'm just not understanding that
what's going on right here. I mean, we can go back to the beginning of the season when TP Tony Parlor was bringing balls out eight yards deep into the end zone, getting to the t in your line. I mean, if that costs us so much, feel position. I just haven't seen that much improvement from our special team's unit to go out there and say, yes, we like what we're seeing. Yes, had they performed a little bit better than they did in the beginning of decision, yes, but
that's not to be confused with worth anything. I mean, let's be real about this. Overall, our three phases of the game have not been good at all. And so to me, that whole statement, that whole still my guy went on it. It's just confusing to be overall, and it's a head scratcher. Listen, going into the Mike McCarthy thing, I think I think it should be noted that these
two things are different. Speaking about risk taking and then bad decisions, Okay, it's fine, like you said, if you want to go fun on fourth and one, you want to go fund on fourth and ten, that's called taking a risk, all right. You took it and you're going forward. Now what you do after you decide to take the risk, that's what makes it a bad decision, all right. So yes, fourth and one, throwing the sney Lamb horrible decision fourth to ten your own territory, going double reverse pass with
your punt team. Horrible decisions. These are bad decisions. It's cool. I understand, Jerry, you want to take some of the risk, probably go for two for going forth down. But when you have guys that are making the bad decisions with the risk that they are taking, it doesn't add up. These two things are different, Jerry, and uh, you know they haven't played out for us well all season. All right, gentlemen, I hear what you're saying, But the grand Pool ball
has spoken. He loves Okay, he said, he likes what's going on special teams and loves the coach. So bones fossils coming back. So if bones Fossil comes back, here's something that needs to happen with Mike McCarthy, the head coach, and Danny. You'll understand this very well because I mean that. Barry, you'll understand very well because you have young kids. Danny, you'll get to this point as your daughter grows up.
It's one of those things where you want your kids to be creative and you give him a little out of two, but you don't trust them. You just don't trust him. You know, you let him do some things, but you watch it. You're peeking around the corner, or you tell him, you know, go ahead, draw right here, right here on the table in front of me. You know, you just don't trust him. And that's what Mike McCarthy has to do. He has to treat you know, Bones
Fossil like one of his kids. May Man, you better watch him, you know, you better make sure you got eyes on him because you can't trust him because all of a sudden, if you let him go up in the room, all of a sudden, you go see candy rappers on the floor all Halloween, you know, in the closet. You know that's what Bones foss is doing. Man, he's out here getting eating all the milky Ways and snickers from and you gotta go stop him because he can't help himself. He gonna call it. So you gotta be
that parent that's on him if he comes back. So and they said, Danny, you're gonna be there one day, But Barry and I know that. Man. Don't trust these kids. Man, don't trust You're right, You're right about that, Newey. I mean, you gotta keep an eye on him, like you said, Man, I'll tell himbout his son like, yeah, you can go ahead and get your get your water out the fridge. Man, I'll be right back. I'll come back. This man got a whole gatorade in his hand. I'm like, hold on, match,
just told you to grab the water. You went near grabbed the gatorade. Man. So it's all about this. But you give an inch. They take him out and my boy his special Team's court theatre. He's been doing it because I'm sure Mike McCarthy's been telling him, Hey, look, man, this is your deal. You get us in the best situation possible. And he said, hey, all right, I'll get us in the best situation. Fourth to ten, y'all need the first. I got, y'all double reverse fake pass. We
got this. No, that's not gonna happened that way. Mike, you gotta keep your kids in check. Man. Listen, before we get into the last thing, I need to post a question to both of y'all because I keep hearing it and I like, I want somebody to define it
or tell me what they think it is. When when we talk about Mike McCarthy's philosophy, Jerry went on and he talked about it for a while, and I really didn't get it, you know, anything that was different from any other coach that that would have took an interview or saying anything about football. All three favors of the game need to compliment each other. Offense can't I'll do the defense, and defense can't do I'll do the offense,
and then special teams has to show up. I think that's like, that's the basic lingo of every person that is a head coach or trying to be a head coach. So I'm trying to figure out what Mike McCarthy's philosophy is, like I said, because I continue to say that Kelly Moore is running the offense and Fossil is running the
special teams, and then Knohler's running the defense. So I'm trying to figure out where Mike McCarthy's handprints are on the game when we see it on Sunday, I think, I think that's what we need to get a get a hold of. We don't have an identity as a team, and it's been like that since Week one. I mean, we thought coming into this season, Mike even said it, Yeah, Zike's gonna be a huge part of this offense. He's gonna be that bell cow. We've yet to see that.
We thought, you know, all right, well, we're gonna transition into the Dack's arm leading us through this season. We haven't been able to do that because he's been injured so and this defense has been in Shamble's pretty much all season. So I don't know if he has a philosophy, because at this point this team just doesn't have an identity as a whole. I go back to something that I learned a while back, and I use as all the time and talking about things. There's idealism and realism.
Idealism meaning life the way you'd like it to be, and then there's realism, life the way it really is. Mike McCarthy came out and talked to us a whole lot about idealistic things. Oh yeah, we're going to make sure that Zeke is a big part of the offense. And he says, hey, you know, it's it's about players,
not scheme. You know, he says these things idealistically, that's what he wants, but the reality is twenty one is not getting the ball the way top running backs are getting the ball and getting the touches um that Mike Nolan defense that that was about scheme. It's not about the players, I mean, and clearly that's been bad. So that's where I kind of come back to. You said things that idealistically you wanted to do, but realistically you
haven't done. And ultimately, as we heard from Jerry Jones today and Steven Jones on Monday, they're giving him a pass for the entire season. There's some things that they don't like, but overall they're saying he needs to mull again, he needs to do over and Bear. You spoke about, Hey, you know, he deserves a full off season. Who knows what the off season is like. We're still not out of this COVID. Okay, we're almost in January, so we don't know if they'll have OTAs. We don't We don't know.
I mean, there's just so much we don't know yet. Man was talking to somebody the other day by spring training, like they will know what spring training is in spring trains, and you know, basically mid February here he is the end of December. Nobody even knows what Major League Baseball is getting ready to do. I mean, we haven't got a start date for the National Hockey League, so I'm not sure what you'll say able to do an implement
well with that. And then you see that Roger Goodell said that the NFL will not be trying to get priority on vaccine, so whenever they do come out, the NFL will not be the organization that's saying, hey, we need to jump to the front of line so we can have OTAs in minicount. So this thing could draw for a long time and we can still have a teams that don't have a full offseason and don't have
a regular training camp going until next season. And hey, look, this is what Roger Goodelle is telling you here in December. You know what happens when Roger Goodelle, who works for the owners, and starts happening some meetings in February and March, you know, and people start talking about the money. So you know, it's easy to say it now, right, It's just easy to say that three weeks left, you know.
You know, let's see what starts happening when when it starts getting towards you know, the league year and people start talking about trying to get that cash for next year, and uh, you know, no more in that they want stadiums full so let's we'll see. We'll see are they forcing these dudes to take the vaccine? That's what I want to know. That's a that's a slippery man, very
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Cowboys not gonna win the Enercy East. Go aheady Mack, Yeah, listen. I also gonna get up on the Church because I really, I really don't have many. I mean, my man Digs is hurt. I would love to see him be able to come back. We got Nevill Gallimore who I'd like to see get some more pt because the NUIs wants so bad to draft the d lineman in the in the first round with with the fifth pick, so hopefully
this dude can show up and change Newi's mind. But honestly, I'm looking at it from this perspective, it's a high likelihood that we do not have a regular offseason. It's a high likelihood that going into training camp it will be one of those ease into it and then possibly the older guys will be playing that last preseason game and going straight into the season. So I want to see the older guys that are out there that you plan to still have on the roster next year, treat
this like training camp. I want you to go out there and I want you to try to get all this stuff fixed so you can go out on a good note going into next year, going into the whatever offseason we may have, so you don't have these same issues that you had this season. So I want to see those two young guys play, But I still want to see Jaalon Smith Lve. I want to see them work,
start getting zekes and work. I want to see them work on some stuff so we can have some confidence going into the next season because we don't know when we'll see these guys back at practice altogether. Again. Look for me, I want to see two two guys that haven't got an opportunity all year and I just don't understand why. And my two are Bradley and I and Reggie Robinson. Now, look, Reggie Robinson was a corner we
drafted in the fourth round. I think we transitioned them into safety and I don't know why this guy has not getting gotten any playtime, Especially with the depth we've lost in the secondary, you would think they would decide to throw him in there. I mean, look, he dressed last week at Cincinnati, and even with all the injuries that we had in the secondary against Cincinnati, I think he had maybe one snap. He was throwing in there
for maybe one or two snaps. He's just not getting any of the playtime and I just don't understand why, because we're not, you know, able to go see practice and see what the players are out there doing. So I don't know if it's a lack of understanding the defense, his technique or whatever it may be. Oh yeah, he has a right not being able to snip the field.
And Bradley and I the same thing. I want to see what he got at the defensive end, especially if we're not going to bring back Alden Smith next year in free agency. I want to see what we got on the outside as far as rushing. We know what we got from the Marcus Lawrence, we know what we can get from Randy Gregory, I'd like to see what we can get from him. And you know, I thought on an honorable mention, but I don't think he's gonna play.
And I you know, and I can't. As much as I would love to see Double G out there playing these last couple of games, get that backup role next year, as much as I would love to see that, as much as I would love to see it, I can't do that to the Red pistol man. I mean, look at this guy. He's came in he's battled, and I'm but look, I don't you know, I can't do that
to him. The guy has come in here, The guy's come in here, and he's been you know, he's been a star Wars in there, and he's tried his hardest, and he's probably looking to get a deal somewhere else next year. And if we wipe out the rest of the season, that would be an injustice to him. So I gotta put the Red the Red rifle back in there to shoot his little pure on, pure on guns the last couple of games of the season. But maybe maybe Double two back next year. Hello, No, let me
say something the Church real quick. Church act like he don't know why Reggie Robinson isn't getting on the field all right? If you got if you are on a ship, on a sinking ship, right, imagine this. You're on the ship that's sinking and then you see a light bulb pull up and you won't even hop on it. That mean you don't turn that life boat you rather than
sink with the ship that you want. That must be what they are seeing in practice and what they've seen from this dude, you know, throughout the whole season for them to be like, hey, we got all these injuries and we still ain't giving this dude no playtime because
we absolutely do not trust him. And this is on a bad defense if you don't trust him over some of the stuff that we've seen already with guys getting released for not being able to play cover three and cover one, and he still can't get no pt because they said he probably is going to look worse than them. We at no absolute me. While he is a guy, he's not ready not saying he's a bad shas, but
great is that what you're saying? He should go ahead? No, no, no, you listen Church, you know, so you remember we had Jacar Hamilton's he wasn't ready. He was an athlete, and if he got the right coaching around him and he had the time to really get developed, then I think he would have been one of those top players. Look at Terren Smith. We thought Terrece Mitchell us a guy who I played with and he, you know, he was shaking,
and we thought that he wasn't gonna make it. He's still out there playing in U in Cleveland, starting that cornerback he's been starting for the last two or three years, I believe. So if you get the right coaches around some of these guys, I think there'll be a hype. But obviously Reggie Robinson isn't ready, so Church, I don't want to see him go out there and get this confidence messed up for the rest of the season. Man, coming from mccraige that talking about he better hope, hope
the boys signed a six month lease. Man, That's all he's saying. Many if they, if they, if they put him out there, if they put him out there, he'd better signed a six month lease. McCray, what you're saying is the absolute truth. Because Stephen Jones was asked that question and he said the same thing. You know what Um, some guys that takes him a little bit longer. The coming out of tolls. So they still liked the player.
But he's growing. He's still growing. So that was the kind word Stephen Jones had to say about about Robins. And so that's why he hasn't played. He's not ready. There is Robinson on the roster next year? Is Robinson on the roster next year? Yes, he's on the roster. Yes, I'll tell you what yah boy. Oh okay. First off, you got to remember now, if they go and sign Dak Prescott like they say, they all, that's gonna be
a mega DA. They don't have a whole lot of money, so you're going to be a team that's in need of draft picks and you're going to have to develop players. So I see him being on the football team because he's also gonna be cheap. So so that's a part. I'm not sure sure DA's coming back. Um I think that, I think that. I don't know. I don't know. So you said your mine on this to Church. What you're saying, I told y'all what this is. The solution was if we went into the draft, was able to get one
of them QBS. I told y'all what the solution was easy. I'm going I'm going back to the beginning. I'm going back to the beginning of the season when Church said it's no way that Dak Prescott is not on this team next season. You said, you called us crazy and nobody to be in this situation. Chance to get a season now it is here, and I'm telling you the
easiest solution. Hey, as much as it would hurt the whole Dallas, the whole Dallas community, as fan base, all that stuff, we gotta let the band ride use that money on defense. I'm telling you it's the easy solution. It's the same thing we did in twenty sixteen. Basically said Romo got Church. This is the issue. The ownership does not feel the same way they want him here. Jerry's what seventy eight years old. He's not trying to start over with an unproven rookie. They're not going to
do it. So the whole thought about it, here's what you should be hoping for, Saints. Realistic. You got your idea realistic thing about taking the quarterback, but realistically, what you should hope for is that the Cowboys can at least get a top five pick, maybe even get the number four, and be able to trade it because somebody else wants to go get a quarterback with in those spots. Because we know Lawrence's going number one. They're talking about that b y u kid baby the second one and
feels being a third. And there's enough. We've already gone over this. There's enough quarterbacks in this teams in this league that needs some franchise quarterbacks. So if you're sitting there four or five, be able to trade down, take yourself a defensive back, take yourself a defensive blindman, and move on. That's going to be more realistic about what we see in Mike. But those are unproven players trying
to go to a defense that's in shambles. I mean, if you get this, but then you know what I'm saying is you use that money. You use that money and go get you some free agents on a there's a there's a defensive guys out there, But I'm understand that,
I understand it. I know there are there's a action of people like you buried Church that are out there that believe in but they're told you and they want him back, and in my opinion, I think he wants to be back, and that's that's a good thing there too. I think he wants to be back. They enjoys being the Cowboy quarterback and all the endorsings, everything else that gets there. I think he wants to be back, and so they would be crazy. They would be absolutely crazy
enough to bring that Prescott back. Here is a Dallas Cowboys quarterback and go get Justin Fields at the number five pick. I can see if you had number one, possibly you and you just saw something in Trevor Lawrence that you just really liked, which I don't feel the same way. But I'm not. I'm not risking everything to go get Justin Fields. I'm not. We've seen what that can do. We've seen what we look like with that. We can see what we look like without him in
Life without that is painful, It hurts. It has Church backpedaling, getting off the kool aid. It has Church doing stuffing that I've never seen them do before. That's what life without Dak Prescott is. And you're talking about moving on to Justin Fields, Nah, you only strike gold once. What y'all did the twenty sixteen and found back in the fourth round, it ain't happening again, even with the first rounder. So stick with what you got. I love that that
is a he's a hell of a player. But yeah, but you're only as good as your defense, man, I'm telling you. And if we go out so back, this defense is gonna be in shambles and we'll be doing the same thing throwing empty calories, will have five thousand yards thirty five touchdowns, and we'll be nine and seven. I mean, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, who are
your guys? Hold On, we didn't even get new you a chance to who you want to see play before, you know, because now we don't like to answer the question, oh my guy, I wrote down one guy here and that was that was Tyler Beardish and Joe Looney's been Oh yeah, Beyondest has gotten cleared here. Um to me, the most important thing this young center can do is get some snaps because he's also going to be having
to play with Dak Prescott. So here's a whole new battery that's got to get going and operating in the next year. So I want to get Tyler Beyondi's much opportunity to play and get acclimated to the NFL as possible, so that that's my guy. I'd like to see seeing more ride up. I love Joe Looney, I love with Joe Brings, but but going forward, I think the Tyler Beyondess is going to be that guy needs to get some snaps now that he's healthy. I agree, I agree.
I think Beyondest is just as good as Joe Loonie is right now as a rookie, and I think you gotta go ahead and get him his snaps in going into next year, get his development going, and hopefully he can be that Travis Frederick type center that that's Stalworth on the offensive line, and I think we need to see that now. And you know, no disrespect that Joe Looney, but you know it's Beyonnest's time. Well, Beyondest, he's gonna be here, Joe Lone's gonna be a free agent, and
so the future is right there. Then then get that guy from Staffs also. And I don't believe we'll see Jack martin the rest of the year, but if he's even eligible to come back, I would not want to play because I want to keep seeing Connam mc governor.
Because I think next year they need to have a real competition at that left spot between Connor Williams and Connor McGovern, And if it's up to me, I would think I'd start Connor McGovern at left guard, and I think about putting Connor Williams at tackle being that swing tackle, because if you decide that you're not going to draft at tackle at all, you need to address it. In these Cam Flemings and Cam Irving experiments have not gone well at all. Connor Williams became an All American player
as a tackle at Texas. A lot of people think that he's not strong enough to play guard, so maybe put him out at tackle. But they've got to fix that in the best way to do it and economically do it, in my opinion is to take Karna Williams and start putting him out there at tackle starting next year. I agree, or draft one. You want to get the economics here we go. You know a guy man, take care, take care, take care of a tyros Smith spot man. And like I said, it's not it's the injury. It's
not him. Church, get you man, get you man. That's the end of the show. Fields. I don't want to hit this done Church on justin Fields over Dak Prescott. I don't I don't want to hear Churches take is way more crazier than mine, and I think it's yes, yes, Prescott is crazy. Quick before we go see the best years Dallas Cowboys have had with Dak Prescott was when he was unproven it as a rookie and he had a solid defense. So why don't we do that same formula.
Get a guy that was good in college. He might come in here, provide some juice for us, and we take that money from Dak Prescott, put it towards the defense, solid defend free agents out there. Church chap the best, the best years yat years that the Cowboys. Beshers bring back that the best shoys that the Cowboys have had,
the best years the Cowboys have had. But when they've been dependent on their offensive line to make the wholes for Zeke and DeMarco Murray and protect Dac when he stepped back to throw in the pocket, those are the best years defense has been. Okay, offensive line has been their calling card when they've been good and they've been making those playoff runs. I would just love to know Barry Church the give me one Ohio State quarterback Um
that's good. It's been good in the league. Oh that ain't fair, man, But I'm gonna let you started at Georgia though Field started at Georgia, then he transferred to Ohio States. So I'm saying he might. He might break them old, he might break them over. Okay, okay, although there was Dwayne Haskins, the last dude they put out of there, for Chris Bean, for Barry Church, Danny L. Krabknewys scrugs. Thank you for checking out the players on by Hotels dot com. Right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com,
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