Player's Lounge: How Do You Feel Now?

Sci five Dog Team. He's in the house. LSU national champion Danny McCray is in the house, a former championship player for the Tigers himself. He's here. I am NEWI scrugs like Ben. Dog team makes hip Hi Purpell and Gold All. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do like Boots. I'm not I'm not gonna go buy you know what I'm saying. I was looking. I'm not looking like. I love Boost though. Yeah, but he knows he knows where to stop. He know where to stopped. Said he gonna

start his own step team. Yeah, the Boost and Step getting paid for the news can go all right, So we've got a lot of cowboy your shoes to get to the coaching staff. So there's lots of things. They're Kellen Moore, it's going to be the play caller. But before I do that, I will allow Danny to have his triumphant room. First thing, I want to are you, Brooke, because I saw the itinerary that you were posting on social media about all the spots hitting. I saw you

aided dragging you. They should know you by naming drag goes, you might be able to go back and cook the meal. You were there so much so, so go ahead. Tell me the whole experience of being in New Orleans where LSU has won another national championship. Correct me if I'm wrong. Haven't they won all four in New Orleans? I know three for sure, Yes, all four? Yeah, I know. I've been there for two now, and the atmosphere this time was much more intense and amazing than the first time

I won. I think the the excitement around the team and Joe Burrow and all our number one receivers and running back that was all that I think it was. It was it showed up and in respect to Clemson, they had a lot of fans out there. I mean in New Orleans, it was a lot of large out there. There was a lot a lot of orange out there, and they tried their best to hang with the with the bat Rouge and Lsu folks. They didn't know how

to handle New Orleans. I saw a lot of orange sleep out there on Bourbon Street throughout the weekend, and we saw it at the end of the day. They weren't about that, like, they weren't about that like they tried. They tried. They had their own little bout for me on one hand, on one half of Bourbon Street, and I saw him and it just didn't look the same.

It didn't look the same. Well. It is definitely one of those situations where when you go to New Orleans there is a difference between the natives and the visitors. I know, I know, I've been there myself. You know, when you're trying to get the land of land and understand everything. But there's a difference between those those who know,

they know definitely definite. They know. They know when the horse is getting run down Bourbon Street, they know when they get out the way, they know where to go eat. They know how many hand garnads they can have and how many is too much. They know all that and

Clemson didn't, and that's why we came back and beat them. Man, I think I think the fans might have got a little sleep, but they have been in New Orleans too long, too long, and they died out a little bit and the LSU woke up, and then those fans took over seventeen seven and then we score how many un answered? Too many? Essentially it's a blowout. They almost got to put off the sticks twenty one. Well, you could definitely tell the first two or three drives that they were

just off. And that's that lay the layoff to meet. It's too long between the semi final championship game because to me, that the whole first quarter we didn't see. We didn't see both teams doing what they've done all year long, especially with Joe Burrow. They they were just off and then they got towards the end. But that's just my funing. So so I give you this for them. I think the defensive game plan for Clemson, the way they came out, so this is scripted. The first fifteen plays,

I think that defensive plan was amazing. They only had one linebacker playing. They ran three one seven and then so for LSU, I think what happened was if you go back, If you go back to Georgia, a lot

of those players were out after halftime. If you go to Oklahoma, a lot of those players were out after halftime, and then you got two weeks off, and then you come out and you start the game off on your own goal line with these first fifteen scripted players that looked crazy that they've never seen before, so they were off. Then they see some stuff that they really have never seen before. Then Joe Brady figures it out, Joe Burrow is on with them, and we just take off. I

look back. Honestly, the bigger part of the most important part of the game was at the end of the first half, that last drive, so it was third and nineteen. It was an incomplete pass, but it was a PI on Clemson, okay, so it was like maybe like thirty second stuff. And then later on in the drive it was another third and ten. That's when they called that draw play to Joe Brow and then he get out of bounce and then the next play they hit Thaddist

Moss for a touchdown. That completely changed the entire momentum one of the game because it went from Clemson getting the ball back and maybe scoring at the end of the first half, and then getting the ball back in the second half to being down even more and then you saw what happened. They were unfortunate unable to recover. And even Davo said a halftime he was like, look, it was just a very sloppy into the first half and it pretty much cost him. Listen, they almost came

out the gates getting blew out. We don't have a legal linement downfield. Yeah, I forgot about that. We got a forty yard bomb going on. We got two drop passes, one from my best receiver, one from Justin like we like he said, we came out slow, but we still come up with a forty yard pass and the office a linement is a couple of year was down the field that yeah, yeah, that changed it for us. Well, this is a historic football team, LSU defeating seven teams

ranked in the top ten. That's never been done for a national champion. And looking at the game and now that it's over, we go back. I just think about this team had issues in the first quarter and they still came out and just blew the doors off Clemson in the second half. We're talking about a team that had at twenty nine game winning trick, a team that had a national championship, that had beat in Alabama. I mean, this was as good an opponent as you were going

to face, and they took them apart. That to me was very, very impressive about what they did. So congratulations to you guys as LSU alums. And well, hold on, let me let me clarify something real quick. I'm not an alum. Just for Danny, Okay, this is for you both of y'all. I'm not an alum. I worked there for a year and a half. So I'm gonna adopt a son. If we have any LSU fans listener to this, I listen. I just quick story new my man being.

I saw him on the show. I was like three episodes ago, and I wanted to call in because I wanted him to tell y'all his story. He says that LSU, I mean Florida is his one A school and LSU is his one B team. Yeah, that is not legal in the Yes, can I explain each West team? Yes? Pretty much? A Rod we played him every year, Please, I have to he all right? So growing up, what I'm thirty about to be thirty two. So mid nineties is where I really started watching football, like Steve Spurrier,

like all the guns slang that I used to do. Okay, So but at the same time, I never had a problem with LSU. Never. I always followed that's obviously one. Let me finished Broka, all right. So so then twenty sixteen I had the opportunity to work for LSU. Okay, So once I got the opportunity and crazy things coming into it. So when the floods in twenty sixteen, my current my boss at the time, actually let me get

a house but it got flooded out. So because they were able to do a lot of different things for me, including coach, the head coach for the baseball team, um, he was able to give me a discounted apartment. So LSU means a lot to me. So that's why they beat all right one watch Florida one because I'm loyal. That's my team. I'm not gonna just because tomorrow watching them. Absolutely, Okay, absolutely, listen. Let me tell you something. You out of your one

B slot, that's nobody's one bat. NEWI tell them that nobody's one bat will never I'm a grown a man. So they're gonna be my one B team. That's there's only one. I got an old seven Polos, only one. Who's your who's your sec edition team? Is it? Texas? Ain't even resoo? I mean, who's your man? They don't even count three East Team West Team as well. I don't count them man. Okay, Okay, So so it's now

ten minutes into the show. We're done. We're not because we're gonna go right back to it because somehow you think we'll get to the let us dive into the convoys here on the players last, because we have coaching news. Okay, this is something that we wanted if the initial press conference that coach Mike McCarthy was not ready to tell us exactly everything he had going on, the staff is

pretty much rounded in the shape. Let's start with Kellen Moore, who remains on the team, and Mike McCarthy in a one on interviews one on one with the Beat writers, let everyone know something he canna do with the TV guys last week when I was there. Um, Kellen's gonna call plays, thoughts I like it. Um, I'm sure he's going to call the plays. But I'm sure Mike is going to have a big say in the plays that are on the sheet, but I think that I don't

think Kellen did a bad job last year. Minus his fourth down flour down like gotta having plays, I thought they were very questionable. But other than that, he got he got guys open, he got guys in uh in positions, in positions to make plays, and for the most part when it when it was on the line, we just didn't make those plays. There were throws that could have been made to guys that were open and in coverages and the seams, and we just didn't make those. So

I think he called good games. His fourth down got to have it plays to me, where where the weak point where you know, we saw the out route that we talked about this whole time, with Zeke running five yards five yards, fire yard outs, quarterback keepers by dak Uh Coope not being on the field on fourth down. It just it was consistent all year for that for that down. But other than that, I think he did he did well, especially for his first year calling plays.

I think um with Kellen, I thought he did a solid jobs, especially for his first time calling plays on this particular level. Um, I really like the fact that McCarthy is adjusting to him because they're going to keep the same terminology even though they're going to move to a West Coast style of offense. So that's the most interesting part to me because I want to see how all that message together while McCarthy's trying to blend in while Kelling and Dak and us those guys try to

kind of fit and for him together. So I don't mind it, and I think Kelly Moore will do a really solid job. I hope he just builds on and can stays consistent with the run going forward minus the fourth downs. So one of the things I explained to people is a guy like Mike McCarthy is going to be there basically walking and talking with Kellen throughout the game as a head coach. There they'll come up point

in time. Let's say it's third and two. He may tell Kellen, all right, have two plays ready to go, meaning he's gonna want to go for it on fourth Doweman. These are things that coaches say. Let's say, for instance, the defense has been on the field a lot, there's gonna be a point in time where the head coach will tell the play caller, look, we need to we need choose some clock here, Let's get some run. So these are the things that a head coach will do.

All headach, any head coach worth the salt, is gonna make sure he's telling his guys what to do. Parcels would do me. Every good head coach, it's gonna say to their offensive and defensive coordinators some things that they want to see in the football game, because the end of the day is your football team. Yeah, and he should.

We talked about the pressure. The pressure will be on him because the assumption is we have everything in line to make a real run at a Super Bowl, right, So him coming in here and losing would be a real knock on the hire. So he has the responsibility to come in here and win. So for him to put that all in Kellen's hands, I don't think that happened. I think, like you said, he'll be in his ear. But I think it would be a little bit more than you know, third and two. You know, we might

go for it on fourth. I think that that scheme is going to be a mix of McCarthy and what he figured out in the offseason and the year that he was off and Kellen and what he did last season. All right, Danny McCrae helped me and our Cowboy fans out there listening understand why Doug nuss Meyer becomes quarterback coach and John Kittner's let go. You know, you know what, I honestly, I couldn't tell you. I really would say that I love Kitten. I thought he was a good coach.

What's he a Jason Garrett guy? Is this like a cleansing of most of the people that were here they were under Jason Garrett. Because I thought that John Kinnatt did a great job with that, uh minus some of the throws and being behind late and early in games and him having to throw fifty and sixty times. I think his progression under John Kintner was there. I think he was getting better. Um. But John Kittner did play for Jason Garrett and then he coached for Jason Garrett.

And we're seeing a lot of guys that coach for Jason Garrett office rop. But stay here with that, John Kittner played for Mike Holgren. Yeah, and and you know, so understanding a West Coast offense and what they do, kid hasn't understand. So anyway that this is it's the connection mention. This is interay, So Duck, that's myer goals from coaching tight ends to coaching quarterbacks. Tight end coach is a guy Lunda Wells. I'm not familiar with. Lunda was an LSU when I was at LSU, uh and

then and my rookie year. I believe he went to the Giants and he was like the quality control guy and he's just been kind of moving up in the ranking. So when he was when I knew him, he was, you know, he was he was lounded, right, he was, you know, kind of a ga and all that stuff. So just to see that he's gone from that to now being the tight ends coach and he had been coaching in New York for a while, so apparently he's

doing something right. So I know him personally, as far as what he's done in the coaching in the coaching room, I'm not entirely sure, but somebody likes him. All right. Let's speak of a guy you also know who's now on going to be on the staff. Skip Pete. Skip Pete was Skipp was here earlier in his tenure and Uh, he worked with Jason Garrett, but he was here beforehand.

I'd go back to Skip back to his UCLA days when I worked out in Los Angeles and knowing Skippy and his brother Rodney Pete, who used to be a Dallas Cowboys quarterback. So the pet family, the Pete family has a connection with the Cowboys. I think this is a good heart now. Stan Drayton was a name that was connected with this job running backs coach run game coordinator Texas. He was making five hundred and forty thousand dollars, a lot more than what they paid Gary Brand two

hundred grand more. Basically for what I was told two hundred grand more. I'm sorry, you're not taking a two hundred thousan dollar pay cut. Nah, like the Cowboys all day long. But you know you don't, you don't look that. Yeah. I like, like I were talking about this before we got on air, about Skip Pete and he was here in my rookie year and he would really because I'm

on defense. So he really took it upon himself to reach out to me in church and sell us down and talk to us as men before each game, probably like an hour and a half two hour conversations which is wild because y'all on the other side of the ball, outside the ball. But he saw us as young guys undraft the free agent, so he told us what we need to do to continue to stay on the team, what we need to do to have careers, what we need to do to be good man. He could see

you to do that his whole entire time here. I love Skip Pete, so I think it's a great higher. I love GB. If I had to choose between the two would be super difficult. But I don't think we lose anything here. As a matter of fact, I think we probably gain game a little bit, especially with history and experience. And I think, if I'm not mistake, McCarthy and Skip actually were worked together at pitt so that's

where that connection kind of comes together. And I think with Skip coming here, him working with Gurley before and kind of have a familiarity of what the Dallas Cowboys organizations and what, you know, the expectations. So I think it's a really good fit. And like you said, we both wished nothing but the best for Gbing. He's a great dude. I got to work with a couple of times on a couple of things, but I think the addition of Skip Pete is gonna be really good to

this team. One of the things that really modes well for Skippy that I go back to. Skipp was in Oakland and they had Garner and I forget that I think Wheatley might have been the big back, but then yeah, they had that. One of the things that had was that ability a big back and a shifty back, so they had kind of a two and Enrich Gannon was very well in terms of mixing that run pass play.

So when they got here, they had Marian Barber and the when they had number one pick, they ended up drafting Felix Jones and they were trying to get that kind of balance back and that yeah, the three running backs. But to me, it just kind of I think of what they did in Oakland and had a lot of success. So you got Zeke, you know, the bigger back, and then you got Tony Potter coming in here. So Skippy is going to be able to really, you know, work with Kellen Moore and Mike McCarthy a vision of how

to really get those guys going. So I think they made a good call there. Linebacker coach is going to be Scott McCurley. He knows Mike McCarthy. They worked together. Jeff Blasco is going to be the assistant offensive line coach to Joe Philburn, So Philbin and Blasco are people that also have worked with Mike McCarthy. Mike Woisick no longer the strength coach. He is going to retire there, so this is kind of and Mike Nolan is going

to keep the four three defense. I don't know if they'll eventually switch it, because we saw what Bill Parcels came in here. They stayed with three four and eventually went for three that eventually switched to a three four because they're definitely different types of players and pieces you're using that defense. So I'll be very interested to see boy here two or three what they do defensively if

they try and change. If you've got Tom Seuelan too, yes, Jim tom Seuelan defensive line coach, a very respective defensive line coach. So we're still kind of waiting on Leon like to see Leon let me have some good cat come back, man. Yeah, we love big Cat. Like you were saying about the defense, I'm not even sure to take two years to figure out if you want to switch to the three four. I think we got some some good outside linebacker type guys that yeah, that can rush.

It depends on what you do on the other side with him, what you do with the with your three technique, or you knows whoever gonna be that two gap guy. But it could. It could change sooner than than we possibly expect, depending on the draft and who we pick up. Maurice Linguist, by the way, leaving Texas a and m local guy to come coach. He's also our frat brother to Knui. Really yes, yes, but congratulations. Well, you want

a champion in here. You want somebody to understand manhood, scholarship, perseverance up and this is fantastic, he said, champion we just talk about for the first two minutes of the show. Hey, this is what I really liked though. But um, that McCarthy has done. He's brought in like three or four former head coaches, so he's going to have some leadership across his entire coaching staff. I don't know if you guys agree with that or not, but I really like

that aspect of it. Yeah, I'm not I'm not really sure how that works like that. Yeah, no, I create conversation. And yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying it's a bad thing. You know, how it, you know, pertains to how the coaching styles and how they run it in the hierarchy of of who gets to say what, and you know how serious they take each conversation. I'm not sure how that works. I think he's doing a good job of rinking in guys with the experience guys guys

are here comfortable with and that he knows. As we talked about previously, Uh, you know, I didn't look Jo had he had Paul pascal Ony here, he had Rod Marinelli here. You're talking about two guys were former head coaches. So it's it's it's one that you can use it to say this helps, but we've also seen it was here and it didn't produce the results that people wanted. So it all it all, you know, this is all about Mike and how he uses guys and basically to me,

how he gets guys to buy it. But the coaching staff a lot of it is what he wants. And I think that's important because the last time we saw a coach really come in here and put his put on the staff was Bill Parcels, and I think that resulted in eight lets say it was eight head coaches that came out of that from the NFL major college level.

So that's that's the hope that maybe one day you're talking about some of these guys becoming head coaches and doing doing their things, and we glossed over a little bit. I do want to just give a proper shout out and congratulates his own retirement to coach wise, because he's been in the game for a long time, he's been on that for a long time. He has a lot of success, a lot of experience, and I wish you numb but the best. He's been nothing but great to me.

We still can talk in text and go eat crawfish and do all that good stuff. Huh. I know he loves some crawfit, love some crawfits. Though. Of course you haven't court this gotta you don't have his career. You're right, I will, We're right, I will come, Julia. Now, first of all, we gotta go, we gotta do, we gotta handle first, we got we gotta make it the pop of those first. But then after that, you know, I knew it. You welcome to come to any Crawfits ball that I have in my house, and I will make

any additions to the pot that you want. You want some green beans, but in the Crowfits season, I got you want some mushroom. I got you want some turkey. Next, I got you whatever corner I got. It's gonna be nice and soap too. Yeah, okay, good, We're good. We have to take a break here all the players lounge when we come back. A couple of other issues we gotta get to. Drew Pearson does not get in the

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GWS one score. September twenty nineteen. Back to the Players Loud. We've got two Birds Award all right, Ben Bullet filling in for Barry Church Church on the Players Lounge. Danny McCray National Champion, I'm new rescripts all right. Tell everybody where they can find you on social media, Danny Oh yeah. On Twitter, you can find me at Danny dmc forty four.

On Instagram, you can find me at Danny Underscore mccrai forty Ben Man Ben Bull job there at b N b U l l j I V. That's my childhood nickname and it's stuff gonna be since Dan all right and on uh yeah, I'm sorry, that's Ben Bull drive b E N b U l l j i v E all right. Find me on Twitter at new he scrugs. It's n e w Y Scruggs. It's n e w y s c r uggs Facebook page. It is NEWI scrugs Sports. Okay, m M. I want to like Odell

Beckham Jr. He makes it hard. No man makes it hard because what what what reason do you have to give money out on the field while everyone's looking. And I don't know about you, but I've never carried fake money and real money at the same time. Listen, this is alleged. I will not speak to the possible NCAA violations that that happened on the field at that time. But why would you you crazy? Excited? You he's he's out of his mind excited. Let me tell you something.

When I when I got married, everybody at my wedding, when I looked out that crowd, they had better been as excited as ob J was when he was out there on the field, you better be happy for me, and these things are possible. The dude who was experiencing a feeling of nostalgia and excitement that he had never felt before, probably just he probably just let's left the casino. He was running all his family, everybody that loved him. He was like, man, you know what, man, let me

share this in the moment, and it happened. He was celebrating on the field after the game, and you look at I think he gave money to most of the guys who will no longer be at LSU. So Ben, do you keep your fake money in your left pocket or right pocket either. I don't keep cash on me unless I go get a haircut. Like I said, all this is alleged. I'm not sure what type of notes he had. Maybe they all us then they say he hit the mall cop on the button. I mean I

saw the video and the band. He was in the stands with the band. It was a whole lot of look at me, this all this stuff. No, but this is if you watch the games, this is stuff that he's been doing. He was he got the band to play nick at the stadium, right. It wasn't a big deal because they was because they was in the Tyger Stadium and they let them do it. Okay, slap the Okay, you probably just slapped the security guard on the butt. But lead them people alone, talk about I see a

burn in the carpet. Do you know what just happened for the Tigers? They just won the national championship? Best college football team in the history of the game. You're gonna stop it from smoking cigars the whole video or Joe walking through with aid. This is customary. Lead them dudes alone, not worried about the burn on the couch, because it's kind of like what happens when the WWE comes to town. They you know, they tear up locker rooms, they create damage, and then they write you a chair

at the door. We'll fix out. I'm not worried about till I leave alone. But the look at me aspect of Odell Man, let these kids have that moment. I just don't feel like it was a look at me. Think those dudes are excited to see him that they say. You think those dudes don't look up to Odell? You don't think he talked to them and their friends they want to see that he has genuine excitement for them experiencing and accomplishing what they did. And he showed that

and it was genuine. I don't think it was like, yeah, I'm gonna do this so I get on camera. The dude don't want to get an arrestaurant. I promise you that he was having a good time. I could promise you, just like a lot of the fans that were there, and he had been, you know, having a good time all day, probably all weekend. I saw him in the suite. You know, they all had a good time. I think it was unlimited everything in there. And he got on the field and he was just in that state of

mind where it was like, man, let's let's let's celebrate. Then. I really think that if Odell is arrested, the lawyer needs to be right excellent. I take a come on, bro, get out of here. Man, you get out, get out of the winning. Go to Clemson locker room and do that this, I mean this is a powerful defense. Go to Clemson's locker room and do the coming there being awesome. He shouldn't now, he shouldn't have did it. You should have asked for apology or something. You won't try to

send the man to jail. You want to stay this record for the rest of it, Like the man don't have no arrest on this on this record. This this is the arrest that you want him to have on the for his I'm glad he rich because I was like, he can't get no job because he got a simple battery misdemeaning for come on, man, I just know from my perspective, man, just kind of being around l Ship when I worked there. Odell came to the game a couple of times in spring games. He's always in the

locker room. He's always on the sideline doing pretty much what we saw that that's but the guys enjoyed that though, like they ain't vibing him every but Craig Stells broke the huddle and then in the in the dB circle, Bryan Clark is out there on the sideline. Those that those things are encouraged by or walking out there. I'm saying no, but I promise have emails from from our university and Ocean Run. When he got the head job, that was his goal, that was to get all of

the Alumnius family. Yes, and he wants he wants you on the field. He wants you talking to the guys. He wants you to I'm in the locker room, coming in the meeting rooms and sitting there telling your story about what it takes to win, and it's showing on the field. O'Dell is the one because he's he's the biggest star at the game getting seen doing the O'Dell is a bigger star as far as public. I know

this not a judge around. It's gonna sit around here in Louisiana, ro l legend like O'Dell Beckham Junior in jail for the euphoria of the national championship. Thank you, Thank you, Louis, thank you. I appreciate that you recognized I took it. I appreciate that you recognized that he was really because listen, I was in the place one time. I won't say where I was at. It was an office, not this office, and I think, um, O'Dell had just gotten paid, and I'm sitting here in the next cuvey

hole next to me. I hear these guys talking. They're like, why is Sterling Shepherd acting like he's so excited? No, no, no, no, all the stuff I said, because he's genuinely happy for his boy. He's not showing off for himself like oh I'm happy like pay me. He's happy for the guy. And they couldn't understand that this guy was really happy for his friend finally getting paid. And I was like, come on, bro, come on, he can't experience the same

bephore you of his friend making it. You know what I'm saying, accomplishing what he's been trying to come as since entire life. He can feel that excitement as well. That's what O'Dell felt. Shout out to you, OBJ man, do you think speaking of accomplishment? Wednesday, I got up at four or five in the morning so I could

get over to Drew Pearson's house. Drew was having the media over because they were announcing the ten person senior class of players that were going to get into the Centennial class for the twenty twenty Pro Football Hall of Fame. I am a guy that loves a Pro Football Hall of Fame. I love football and football history. I had studied the ten finalists lists and I had told myself, they'll put two receivers in. One receiver to gain in

was Max Speedy, for sure. Max Speedy was a guy who, when you look at being overlooked his accomplishments as a receiver for the Browns. This guy needed to be in. So I thought Speedy was one. I thought for sure. Drew Pearson was number two the nineteen seventies All Decade nineteen seventies first team. There were two players on offensive defense not in. It was Drew Pearson and Cliff Hairs. I mean they put the punter in man, Okay, like

they're going to correct the wrong That didn't happen. We watched for three hours because they said the show had started six AM and the NFL network Good Morning Football Show, so we're there were six Drew had put out champagne. This hat that I have on my head, this is one of the hats that he passed out. He had passed out T shirts. His grandkids were there, his kids were there, his close friends, his business partners. We were expecting a celebration in the party. I told Drew I

worked I worked with Drew Piston for thirteen years. Okay, we worked in TV together at NBC five here in Dallas. I cannot tell you the many nights I spoke with Drew. This was before he even got in the Cowboys Ring of Water. It's gonna happen. Man, It's gonna happen, and today is your day. There's no way, I said. I looked at the four receivers. All right, Hey, Maxpeed, he's got a case. Cliff Branch Oakland Raiders a good player, you know, worthy, but he was never on a first

or second team All Decade team. Car Harold Carmichael hey Man, never won a Super Bowl. He was second team to you, I said, Drew, it's you. We all thought that. In fact, there were people telling him that who were close to the situation. Wow. For three hours we sat there, we waited. I was alerted midway through that Cliff Harris had got in. Keep in mind, Jimmy Johnson had got in that Sunday. Now Cliff is in. It's a total of fifteen that

we're going in. Ten players, it contributors, and then the coaches. No way they were getting three Cowboys in. Talk to Rick Goslin, pro Football Hall of Fame voter. He said, look, you know they're not going to keep three. They'll probably get two. Jimmy was already in on Sunday. I get the call that hey, Cliff is getting in. This is before the broadcast, So at that point you knew it was either Cliff of Journey. I knew Drew wasn't getting

in because Jimmy was already in. That's one I'm saying before. So when you when they say we're not letting three in, and you're like, well, now we heard it's gonna be two. So at this point you know it's got to be out of these two. Well and take take take it back to the broadcast. A third name they called was Harold Carmichael, and I said to myself, Oh, they're gonna put three receivers in. That was my initial thought. Can't put in Harold and not and Drew. That was my thought.

I thought getting three, But then when I got notified about Cliff, it was like, oh, and so Drew is crossing off the names. He knows how many? How many to go? Six to go? I mean, we're doing this over three hours. And if you watched the show, you knew that David Baker had either called people or surprised people. There was never a phone call to three hours and it didn't happen. And when they called Max Speedy that was the last. That was number ten and that's the

video that I had on Twitter. If you haven't seen it, go check it out an wy s c R e Ggs. You just see Drew's head drops broket, He's rubbing his head. He gets up, he walks out. Now he's wearing microphones from all four Dallas TV stations. Dallas four TV stations, and he leaves the room so we can hear it. Leazy goes in his office, curses, he's mad, he cries, we didn't put that video on. It wasn't fair. He left the room for a reason, and all of us know him, have covered him. So this was a friend.

This is someone who we all respected and keep in mind. For a guy like me. I grew up watching him. I got introduced to cowboy football Starbock Pierson, Harvey Martin, ed Jones. I was living in Savannah, Georgia, and I was the big cowboy fan. I was the guy who wore the blue jersey to school. This before they really saw it was the J. C. Peter, But I got the blue because you know what, I wanted to show you that I was that bigger, bigger cowboy fan of you.

I had the cowboy raincoat, the cowboy l yeah, the old the old school letter jacket that had the silver Cowboys snaps on it. Man, I was just I had a Cowboy pencil. Man, I would trade, yes, the old school NFL pencils. I would trade you five pencils for your one Cowboy pencil in class. I mean I was that guy. I mean what I wanted to be a sportscaster since I was in the fifth grade, eleven years old. Guys like Drew you know, these were these That was

my team, that was what I lived. I loved cowboy football, the cowboy backpack. So this was personal. I remember when I was living in Savannah, George, my dad's station a Hunt Army Airfield. As a playoff game, They're playing Atlanta Falcons, so I got all these Falcon fans around me, and the Cowboys are losing in Atlanta Footon County State and it is Danny White to Drew Pearson. They win this thing. I'm in school. I am that I am worse than

Danny mccraig. Okay, you probably money. I came to school that I was giving it to everybody, And when the catch happened, I cried, I ain't gonna lie to you. I cried. First time understands. The first time I ever met Dennis Thurman was a usc when he was assistant coach, and I said, hey, MAT's won't let you know. I watched you, man, I watched you said the catch happen. I cried and Dennis looked at me, said, you cried? You did y'all cry again? I cried, didn't, but you

know what you could. We could have shared a moment and it was It's it's it's one of those solidarity things, like there's things that have happened in LSU football that you know whether or not there's a real connection there if you real if you're a real fan. People can talk about being a fan, but there's these moments that you know, I can test you. That's a cowboy moment when you saw the catch? What how did it affect you? Tears for me. Drew was on the Cowboys Super Bowl

twelve winning team. He was on Super Bowl thirteen. I tell people this all the time, and I truly believe in the bottom my heart because I've talked to too many Cowboys who were on that team and played that game. When they lost Super Boll thirteen to the Steelers in Miami. They lost gold Jackets. If the Cowboys win Super Bowl thirteen, they are back to back world champions of first NFL team to win three Super Bowls. That didn't happen that day.

The Steelers got they got the Jackets, the Cowboys lost Jackets, and Drew Pearson doesn't get in. He's embarrassed, he's mad, he's frustrated, he doesn't understand it. Now he becomes the only man on the nineteen seventies All Decade team not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Why do you think he's not into it? I go back to what I was told by by Sharene Williams and Rick Giles on two Hall of Fame voters, and they're also in the Hall of Famous Media members. They were not putting

three Cowboys in. And if you look at that whole list, the Centennial class, nobody's got more than two. No franchise, and you've got certain franchises like the Denver Broncos who didn't even get anybody, and they thought Randy Gradishar should have got in. So next year is the year. I

can't say that. Come August, you hope that the Seniors Committee considers him one of the things that I was told is that they'll try and take the ten guys who did not get in this class and try and put them at the forefront for the Seniors Committe because there's only gonna be two. They get voted in the class of twenty two. There is there a point where you would get the filling that he won't getting in. Drew is getting in. It's not a matter of if, Okay,

if you're a Cowboy fan. It is a matter of win based on the very criteria that they the Hall of Fame voters that put out Drew is there. You go back to the nineteen thirties and we're talking all decade first team wide receivers since the nineteen thirties, there are eighteen all eighteen, I should say seventeen of the eighteen or in Drew's not in. You put in John Stalworth, who was not first or second team. You put him in the Hall of Fame. You put into two second

team receivers from the seventies, Paul Warfield, Harold Carmichael. You put those guys in. I guess, I guess. My question goes to, so, so next year, do you do the same process right, or do you do the champagne and you do that, he said on camera. They'll never get me like this. He gotcha, He'll never do this. Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't want to. We none of us want to see him that. I'm saying. You know that.

You know they'll be they want to see that. There will be maybe one camera in there and be y'all, yeah there's a camera, it will be me. Yeah, in NFL films, that'll be it perfect. But we don't you know it was it was. I don't even know him personally, I said down. It did an event with him, uh, maybe three or four months ago. Great guy. I've seen him in passing a lot. He always stops and talks to always upbeat, and just to see a person like that in that type of vulnerable moment and be that

upset was it was upsetting to me. I actually had his autograph. Um. I came down here for the Browns game in twenty twelve as a fan and I did the whole Cowboys star thing, and so we did the tailgate right before the game. He was out there. I got his autograph. Man, I got a photo with him. So I choked up when I did my five PM broadcast because I was there. I was right there, and but I hadn't seen the video, just kind of really looked at and just watching the video and and the

long hug. His girlfriend sent me a picture of us hugging because at that point in time, but you know, you know your friend is down. And I was recently in church and and and um my pastor said that what we have to do in community is carry the burdens. You know of our of our true friends, you know that you that their their pain is your pain. And so at that moment, that's what I was trying to do for my friend. You know, yes I'm doing a job, but this is still my friend. And I tried to

carry it as much as I could. But to talk about the thirteen years of these conversations, and believe me, man, there were times where he just didn't think it was going to happen. And I always was, now, it's gonna happen. And this doesn't give me the ring of bonnory. He didn't think it's gonna be like it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. And to see one and I thought we were gonna get the second one, it hit me, and it hurt because I felt like I let him down.

I felt like people in the Hall of Fame, by their own criteria, that you let this man down. So for a while it was tough. It was tough, but I bounced back, and I've told him, I said twenty twenty one. So for those who are Drew Pearson fans, I will tell you, let's see what happens in August when they get that list together. And when the list comes together, then we had the opportunity to try and really kind of push the story out here one more time.

And above all, let us not forget Captain Crash finally gets his bust. I mean, you're gonna tell them you're gonna have a whole all nineteen seventies, first all Decade team, and Cliff is your safety, and you don't put him there. He played in five Super Bowls, he won two of them. I mean, hello, hello, h So, so Cliff is there and he gets his spot, and he was emotional on the phone call with David Baker. He earned his spot the most emotional and it was that Jimmy Cliff was

crying to was about to pass out. It was like Jimmy Johnson is sitting there and I think, I think Jimmy was in some ways. And this is what happens to these some of the guys who get passed over enough or just or Terrell Daves, friend of mine. The thought was I didn't have enough years to qualify, and that so many people used Miami against Jimmy. This is where having Gil Brandt, Bill Belichick helped because they understood this man. Don't look at him as just a coach.

Look at the arc detect of what he was able to do. He didn't win the third, but the fingerprints are all over. And if you start to look at and I go back to just the fifties. When you think about the dominant teams of each decade, the person who was there helping as an architect was put in Paul Brown Cleveland Browns in the fifties, sixties, Vince Lombardi seventies. You've got Um, you've got head coach, Chuck Noele, You've got Dan Rooney in the Hall of Fame. You know,

architects of how that team was built. Seventies, Um, Chuck Noele. But then you go in the eighties, is Bill Walsh in the forty nine Ers, he was the head coach bise also the gym. And but but just just in terms of just guys in there, Landry was, believe it or not, Landry was not first or second team head coach all nineteen seventies. Chuck Noele was second team head

coach Dodd Schuli's first team. But but yeah, but just so so team of the seventies Steelers team of the it's the forty nine team of the nineties is Jimmy you know who, in the same sense was just like Bill Walsh coach architect. They were not going to let that pass. So Jimmy was getting in. And so Jimmy and Cliff Harris get in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, deserve it spots that they get there. The two thousands of Belichick and Belichick will get in as well. So

they honored that. And what what what what happened there? So for the Drew Pearson fans um, next time you see him, because we see Drew all the time at events, give him a hug, Give the man a hug, and just tell him it's coming, because we know it's coming.

It's just a matter of When he talked about being sixty nine years old, and he doesn't want to be up there drinking a straw and had to have somebody else give his speech because I've seen that at the Pro Football Hall of Fame or God forbid, it ends up like Kenny Stable. They want to put Kenny Stabler in after he's dead, and the snake deserved a spot. So let's look good to yes he does. So let's hold twenty twenty one. Is it all right? We've taken

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Bill Sir? Where did unless you? Unless you's a side piece floor basically, man, if you are your girlfriend and just your main chick, if you if you watching this and you want to the please please let us know what you think about this LSU being one beat and I'm saying one beat. Folks who I work with, they're cool with what I'm talking about. I'm talking about I'm talking about the listeners on this on this Cowboys Bob

y'all man. But the sho folks who I work with, they understood, yeah, because they probably got one bees too, because you know everybody side piece. Okay, Netflix, you're always telling me what to watch on TV, and the first thing you said and watch was Aaron Nandez. Actually, I had enough people hit me up about it and just said, wow, I'm okay, all right, I checked it out. I'm on episode two. I have not started, so don't ruin. I got through half an episode one. Okay, Wow, So I'm

gonna tell you wow. Wow it was that it was put together that well, wow, probably everything, yes, put together that well. Um, what a challenged life he had, and what a sloppy crime. Okay, already an episode episode I'm

in the episode two now, um, jeffsy Carlito's Way. I love the scene where after they leave the boat and Cliinfeld killed the dude and then Carlito Cliinfelder right there and he said, oh, oh, Dave, you trying to be a gangster and there ain't nothing you go to school for and you can't get a late starting line, right. Somebody needed to tell Aaron Hernandez to watch Carlito's Way Okay,

you just so, So Aaron Hernandez was Dave? Was it that? Yes, Dave wasn't really against from what I've heard it, you know passed on. Was Aaron Thatez had a little bit of that in him? He didn't. You know, there's a difference between you being a football player and you got a short temper and you'll knock some dudes out versus Okay, yeah, definitely, Yeah,

there's a big difference. So so he was the football player with a short temper who tried to be the client and Carlitho, you know you're a client, fel This is not what football players do. So wait, one more question. So did he have a Carlito in there? But did he have a friend that was that guy or he wasn't even smart enough to have a Carlito? Yeah, I would check it out, and I would check it out. Probably probably got Wait and I also say this, I love how to Patriots try to run away from it,

like Irban Martin, it's two of your gators. Really, everybody trying to run away. You gotta disassociate yourself with something like that. Man, you be getting the phone like you had to know. It was almost like the present the other day to talk about that laft part I don't know him or that when when ran carry because he says, I don't know this dude. You interviewed them, you know, for the league. You know what it's crazy about, Aaron Hernandez.

So when I worked at ESPN, which is obviously in Bristols, where he's from, I used to get my haircut by the same Barbara man trip man watch, it's definitely good. Let's touch on your Houston Astros, Danny, your hometown astrils cheating this hometown. No no, no, no, no no no. This is what knew. He let me know when to show up with Buzz, so me and knew he discussed this earlier. And I'm was it flabbergasted by fact that these dudes could possibly been out there using morrise code

to tell when the fastball and when the curveballs too much. Man, I told you if you if you compared the football, that's so in the in the helmet and the quarterbacks helmet. They get a certain amount of time to call the play, and after that the coach cannot communicate with them anymore. Everything you see on the field has to be them. All the checks they make has to be them unless

they get like a sign from the sideline. Right, So just imagine them being able to talk to somebody up stairs in the booth about three seconds before they snapped the ball saying, hey, this is defense. They end throw it to this person. It will be open because I'm able to see it from from up here. That is the level of cheating. The quarterback would come passes if that was the case, right, These guys are doing that in baseball, Morse goal the ability to come up with

this game that they did. And for Alex Cora, bench coach with the Astros in twenty seventeen, manager of the Boston Red Sox in twenty eighteen, one World series, both World Series one over the Dodgers. The legacies that are affected. And I tell people this all the time. I've noticed this about being a sportscaster for over twenty five years. Losing affects people. Lives are written and changed when you lose.

Ron Washington is looked at differently. If Josh Hamilton's home run against the Saint Louis Cardinals holds up and they win the World Series, Clayton Kershaw still looked at, Well, he can't win the big one. He didn't win twice. Dave Roberts, the manager, gets a beating. You Darvish just looked at us. Dude, you're a loser. You're a guy who didn't getting done. Carlos Veltron, by the way, played with U Darvis the Texas Rangers in twenty sixteen. He

knew a lot about it. So what the Houston Astros have done in the asteris and then people who were angry at them, I mean, what about the people who were just along the way sitting down a triple A. I mean, there's a lot of guys affected by this cheating scandal. They were eight and one at home during the playoffs in that twenty seventeen World Series run. You can't tell me these baseball's told you these dudes had an edge. They're not taking the trophy, but they're letting

you know these dudes had an edge. All right. I want to run out of time here, I tease it. Let's get to it. Grant Delpit, by the way, is a guy on Dame Bruger, the athletic person I respect very much when it comes to very knowledgeable yeah drafting. He thinks Grant delpat could be there for the Cowboys at seventeen. I like it, um. I think that early in the season people saw saw him play a little bit and they kind of lost a little little hope

in them for being that that number one safety. They kind of lost account of what he did last year. Then you find out that he's been playing hurt and still better than you know, most of the safeties up out there. And I'm so you see these last five or six games, and this guy is the guy, right, He's the guy he drops down us a seventeen and were able to get him. That's and that's the position that we want. Why not? Yeah? I like Grant um. I know. So when he came when I worked there,

he came in as a freshman number one. This guy's been a three year starter, day one. So he took over for Jamal Adams immediately day one coming in. And that year they were in the transition, you because not only did they lose Jamal Adams, they also lost White. So Corey Raymond shout out to Corey Raymon, their dB coach, I'm pretty sure out there. So number one, he's going to be prepared. He's going to be already ready for the Pro level number one, So I think he would

be a great fit here. That's just hoping that he'll be able to slide down there and do his thing. Okay, I'm gonna give you scenaris. Possible scenario be no draft day things happen. If the Jets call you and say we want a number one, you can have Jamal Adams. Now do you make the raid? And if you really are sold on delp it, would you give up? Let's say you're a third rounder to trade up to get him,

because in a passing league, these are two guys. Jamal's proven, but these are two guys you know can help you football. I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that if you're using the first rounder on Delpit already. No, I'm just giving you no. I'm saying so if we if we the Cowboys, we plan to get a safety in the first round, right, and the Jets called me and offer of Jamal for that first round pick, I'll take it. Okay. I like seventeen j Yeah, yeah, I like. I like Jamal is

more than proven. He's that dude's a proven monster right he get out. He's an enforcer on your defense in a passing league, yes, if that, If that's my trade, I'm taking it all right now break good, good, because now I bring up the second part of it. Got to give him the contract, and you're already looking at handing out contracts possibly, so just knowing knowing it's kind of like when you make the trade for James the Ramsey.

You know you're writing the check, So so do you write the check versus possibly having to give up a three to move up to get delp it? Because I'm thinking to myself, if people do their homework, they're going to see this is a guy who should be at seventeen, should be a lot higher, So you may have to give up a three to move up to get him. And then you also now have some cost control there with you. We got eighty million on the camp. We got a lot of stuff to figure out these guys.

These guys have been figuring out ways to get guys paid, and they will also. They will figure it out. Right, he will play. Then they will figure out what they need to do with him. He's going to be worth the money. Like it's like, he's going to be worth whatever whatever you give up for him. He is a monster. Absolutely, I would I would I agree with Danny. I would take the trade and pay that man seriously because number one, he's a leader and he's a game champions. Last time

we had a game changer at the safety about Darren Wilson. Well, you want three levels of defense, your your D line, Well you got d law on one level, you got l LV and James Smith. If you already paid, get your Pro Bowl, James Smith, get you a Pro Bowl safety, Get you an All Pro safety. Get out Pro Bowl. Yes, I'll get you all Pro safety. Look, and he's from Hebrew, so he's right here. He's from down the road, down

not far from the Star here. So so that's the that is the conversation because the Jets apparently we're asking for two first round and second they're not getting all that. They're not gonna get all that, but they was gonna get something fun. And the cowboy's gonna have to pay that contract anyway, so you may as well go ahead and get it done. She was already. But I think that's a definite conversation I would be having in the room.

Del put Adams. I think you get one of these two, get one of these two, and would be at all man. I would say, man, but a really good player, young guy three three year starter, three years, didn't miss blest a little bit. You're you're going to get you. I shouldn't say you're going to You should one of the two. You get one of the two, You're gonna be okay, good start, good start for defense. Then build sitting instruction. Congratulations to your team one one d Danny, Congratulations Tigers

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