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so he's back to critique the draft. You already know you're gonna be any We should have done this, We gotta do that. I told y'all from the beginning that that wasn't I wasn't here. But this is what I okay, this is what I heard. Okay. So as a player, this is the interesting partner. So I look like you get to our listeners and viewers here. What you know when you're when you're watched, do you watch the draft to see if they're going to take someone in your position?

I mean, what is it? What is it the draft like for a player to go through? So me, when you know, when I finally got my opportunity to be a starter, you know, full time at the safety position for the Cowboys, when that draft rolled around, I'm watching the first three rounds after that, Adam, you know whatever, you know, four or five, six, seven, I you know, if they draftbody in my position with those rounds, I

think I'll be hy. But those first three, the first, second, and third round, I'm keeping a keen eye on way or they're selecting who they're selecting, who they're bringing in because those three rounds, in my opinion, those are the guys that have made the team, and even if they're not as good as the guy in the position, they're gonna try to find a way. They're invested. They're invested, they're gonna find a way to get these guys on

the field. When you're talking about those first three rounds, whether it's all we're gonna put them right behind you for a little bit, you know, just so you can teach them the ropes. You know what's going on. They're they're grooming that guy to come in and try to take your spot. And that's just the nature of to be that's the nature of the business. So for me as a player, I used to keep a keen nine

on those first two days, first, second, third round. Now the beginning of my career, I mean I was watching. I was watching it like a hawk as well. I remember me and send some ball in twenty thirteen sitting there watching like, man, all right, please don't draft Mark Baron. I think it was twenty twenty twelve, Alabama. Yeah, do not draft Mark Baron, please because all the weeks setting up to their Rob Bryan, who was a defensive coordinator at the time. Oh that kid, I mean, we man,

and you try to you know, feed us. We can run three three safeties with it. No, we're not gonna run three safeties. One of us is gonna get off the field for this first round pick. So the whole time leading up, me and Sensiball, man, what we're gonna do, man, what we're gonna do? We ended up going to the bar and sitting there just like watching this man, what's this pick coming? What are they gonna do with this pick?

I'm sitting there like, man, what being sensiball And as soon as they said I forget who they drafted at that at that draft, but it wasn't Mark Barron. Oh man, we had a big cheers. Yeah, we good? Whoa who were good? In the second round, third round? Nothing that came in, so we was hype. I want to say it was either twelve or thirteen, thirteen we didn't have a first Who's try truf is Travis Frederick? Thirteen? What about Mark Baron? Whatever year Mark Baron went out? I

forget what year that was. Was that the Tyren Smith here? It might have been. It might have been Tyren Smith one of them years we had a high draft pick. Yeah yeah, Tyro was nine, yeah, so Smith is twenty eleven. Yeah, so it might have been that year when Mark Barry might have been able to come in. I don't know what the year he dropped, but that was the draft. We were sitting there then please don't let this guy

come in, and then they don't. It was a year they drafted Mo Clayborne because yeah, because Mo Clayborne came in and we were in Orlando, was like everybody was talk about we're getting the safety in Orlando was like, yeah, y'all better watch y'all. The next thing, you know, we drafted for Clayborn. Hey, hey, okay, Orlando, do you want to talk about it? Oh? You should have seen that Tuesday when we came in. Oh man, the safety room was just dying, laughing. Y'all right over there was just

a little tension over there's some tension. Oh man. It was a great It was a great run. Drafted for safeties while you're on the team. I know, I was Matt Johnson. There's one JJ Willcox, a, Quassia wousu Ansa and uh kid from Baylor, um My Dixon. Yes, he's now in the US the USFL. My. I'll tell you I watched this. They dropped the guy in my visit. I'm funny. You know watch I did that scouting work on. Oh he ran a fourth. Oh he got some speed

to him. Let's see what the side to side looking like. Okay, So when Matt Johnson came in as a fourth, you know, the guy had a lot of interceptions in his college career. He had like over twenty and two years or something like that. On that. All right, this guy goes get the ball a little bit. He got some speed. But then when I saw him work out in the OTAs, I was like, oh, I got this. No disrespect to Matt Johnson, that's my boy, but as you're visually working like,

I got this same thing. When they brought in Rodney Uh, Rodney Pool, Rodney Pool, I made sure Rodney come on work with me. Man, we're gonna work out together. So I know, I see, all right, I gotta gage him. All right, he ain't really good side to side, all right. I got him on this, I got him on that. So I always kept you know, friends close, enemies closer. You gotta do it. That's how you gotta do it. So you did the Bill Russell Michael Jordan thing. Yeah,

whatever that was, That's what I did. So the they would say, like Bill Russell would stay at Will Chamberlain's house when they go play in Philadelphia, and then they were buddies. It's like and then Michael Jordan with Barkley, Hey man, you gonna play golfing with the guy. He's like, hey, these dudes are acting like you. They're your friends. But they get ready, you know, if we're buddies, stepped out on the court to feel they sit there been ready to cut you to death. Tell he lead about to

the deep water. I mean some people could swim back. Some people get left in the deep, you know, just like that whole thing. And hey man, you know you're getting played right. You know you're you're buddying you up. So you're like, hey, come work out with me, baby, let's go sport, and all you do want to sitting up here, you're just looking at shark in the water and seeing how how tell daddy do it every single time?

But he ain't there. He just laughed, like, man, Church, you ain't nothing, but just gotta be it doggy dog word out there. Man, it's crazy, got you boys, It's crazy. And it bit me in the butt though, Jacksonville, that's when it bit me the But we drafted a guy, I want to say, third or fourth round, Ronnie Harrison, and the dude was a beat. He was a legit beat. He ended up taking my position and I ended up retiring.

But I was like, man, you know, I was trying to do that same type of spill, but it just didn't work. It was a beast. But you know, nine years later they worked for nine years. So the Cowboys have a draft party, and you know, though, how players come out? Do players have a fear going to the draft party and only to see them draft someone? I'll give you one of my one of the funniest ones

I've ever seen. Chicago Bears have a draft party. They've given Mike glenn In a two year contract eight million a year, so you know, hey, we got Mike Glenning here. Next thing, you know, they trade up in the draft to go gets that dude's in the draft party? What what? What? What is going on? So? So have you seen that house? Oh yeah, A good friend, Jesse Holly, was telling me about this story my rookie year when we had drafted Daz Bryant. So it was all the receivers at the time.

So Miles Austin, Kevin Ogletree, Jesse, Holly, Roy Williams. I think Sam Hurd and Patrick Crayton. I think we're all in that room at the time and leading up to the draft. You know, receiver, we're not touching this receiver room. Everybody here is locked and loaded. Man, we're ready to go, like we got we got this, we got this. You guys are man, you got it. We got it. He's not in the first round. We're not gonna touch nobody. So they go all out. I guess they went out

to the bar hanging out or whatever. Jesse was in Mexico, Mexico, that's what it was. Yeah, Yeah, it was something something like that. Yeah, CB knows it. And they they drafted that Brian or whatever. That's happening. He's calling them up, what is this? What's going on? Going back right now? So that's how it happens. I mean, cats literally look at it like, man, hold up, y'all did this to y'all told me this was not gonna happen, and it ended up having it. Man. Same thing with Sean Alie

back when they brought him. There you had Brady James and there and oh man, it was Braddy James was in there. We had Keith Brooking. I mean it was man, there's some funny times in that locker room when the draft is around. I mean it's hilarious. So what a position coaches going through Because you're a position coach, you know you this is above your pay grade and that's

what they all say. They may ask you, which you know, you give them your opinion, but ultimately still, you know, the buck stops with with Jerry Jones, Stephen Joe's willman there. So so how do they handle that? See, they try to say that, they try to get that excuse and saying our way, it's above my pay grade. Man, you know, I think you're a hell of a player. You know, Hey, that's what they want to draft. You know, I told

them about I think we're good here. We don't need to add anybody, but you know, hey, it's above my pay grade. Knowing damn well. And those coaches meetings in the back, Hey, you know, how do you think our dB room is? Hey, we need some help here here and here. Man, I like this guy from there. I like this guy from there. We need to bring them in. That's how it really goes down. But when we're all in those position meetings, you know, during the off season

or before the draft. It's oh, man, you know, you guys had a hell of a year last year. We're just gonna build on that. You know, I don't see them touching this room. We might bring in some late draft picks. That's always to go to. We'll bring in some late draft picks, because guys don't really fear the late draft picks. You know, they might make the team. They might. We got a bunch of fives. That's problem.

What what they're telling me. Now, we'll look, we'll look to feel the deep, the back end on the past five. You guys get nothing to worry about it. Here it goes More's Clayborn, here goes it's bright. I mean it with Clayford, they traded up capital. You knew he was draft capital. Then you heard, hey he's a highest ranked player. We had this Dion Sayders. She's like, oh, yep, you knew it was coming. It was so at that point in time, he's just not draft. He's starting. He starting

front the front of rim. You know they're gonna find a way, barring injury. He's started. You know, when you get later on in the draft, that's always I we got to prove that that guy can play when your first round, think we'll make excuses until you figure out how to play that Just that's the difference. Is So when you know you got that guy in the first three rounds, you know you got a battle on your hands. So I'll tell you this as a medium member. You

know one of my favorites. Who you talking about? You? Okay, So something like that happens, you go get you more s Clayborn me. Let's go talk to Orlando. Hey, how how you feeling? What is it roll going to change at all? Like that? That's the big thing you've always played with an hedge yer. Does this give you more of a motivation? I mean, do it At this point in time, it's just what can I get him to say? This crazy I'm telling you to be and to be honest.

That's who I got the lead him in to the deep. That's where I got it from that that he was the king of that I made him. If somebody started up balling at that nickel position next to the next couple of days, nextly you know he's Orlando and him were like right next to each other all the time. Just hanging out doing whatever hit it next to you know that guy kind of just man. I thought he was getting reps with the with the ones, and now he's they go sils, they go, we gonna find Ron Leary? Hey,

Ron brother bro bro him. That was that was wild. They went't had off, They went't had a whole meeting at Jerry's house. Everybody was invited. But you how do you feel about that? But you brought in Collins and his mama? How do you feel about that? And they say he plays his best at guard? How do you how do you feel? Man? I'm telling that was he was. He was salty about that big SI. So the thing was like, you know, how did you you know? So? Did you talk to your teammates who went to this?

Were you invited or not? Lit in that room like you you walk in that room usually the old line in the room. He got snacks everywhere, people laughing. You got dudes with their shirts off. Hey, I went in there. They was all sitting there, no pads, ready to about the joke. Ain't nobody laugh. I'm like, dang, well, I think Calahan was a coach at the time. Maybe I'm like, huh, right, coach,

I'll lead you to it, man, like it was. It was tighten there you run Leary man, you walking in there with two words you you, you, and especially you me and you. I mean, dude, that point in time, I mean I would be bit hurting me thinking about how they did Ron. Ron, they did wrong. Crazy come to Jerry's house. Everybody were about, you got fed, great recruit this man and his mother. Oh man, except for Ron,

you're here not. It was wild and because you can't you can't be mad at the guy they draft because he just come and do it. But keep in mind, they didn't draft college. He was free agent. He picked it, so so they were trying to woo him. They were like, hey, you know position battle what No, you're you're plugging play, You're plugging playing. They're like, wait a second, I tell you man. That was That was one of them when I just think about just how co cole this business is.

It's cold blood around this time. Oh, it's cold blood. So so that was yeah, man, that's all I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna picked the brain on this brain because this is just these are because this is not what we really talk about. You. Hey, the players here players, but they're players here that are seriously worried and thinking about it. Now, I'm gonna give you a guy right now who a

lot of fans have kind of forgot about. Jabril Cox. Yeah, got hurt advancing well enough that they let Jalen Smith go, but then you hear them talk about linebackers and then they resigned Vanders. You got a lower contract, but he's still resigned. So you're talking about some linebackers in the draft here. Nakobe Dean out of Georgia, Devil Lloyd out of Utah, Christian Harris out of Alabama, Clay Walker another

one of these. Georgia k he's Georgia and George got some guys do so to me, if you're a Jabril Cox, I'd be worried because if they like one of these guys, can they get them and they use a as you said, first second, third round, top pick on you in trouble because you don't want to be that, you know, forgotten man. There's always that saying in the NFL, you can't make the club in the tub. Right now, he's in the tub, he's getting these treatments. He's in the ice bag, getting ready.

And would you do that. You know, coaches kind of lose sight, you know, they go to the guys that are healthy, and they're watching guys out there playing and you don't want to, you know, miss out on a lot of that. And they bring in the high draft pick and he kind of, you know, jumps you ahead in the picking order. So, um, if I'm just brill, I'm trying to do up my all to be able to get back and be able to show these coaches at least what I can do on the field when

OTAs come around. I mean it might not be one hundred percent, but at least sean that you could move around a little bit and maybe, um, you know, he'll be all right. But you're right, I mean they felt that he was good enough or developing good enough that they got rid of Jalon Smith, but they also resigned l Ve. You got I think Gifford's in there. You got Parsons. So it ain't gonna be just a you know, as soon as I'm healthy, I'm ready to plug and play.

You know, I think he's gonna have to battle a little bit. So let me ask the question here. If you are Tyrant Smith, if you're Tank Lawrence. Both guys are going to make they're going to be on this team, and they're going to get their full sounds, So they're not coming to them to take a pay cut. To me that we have to worry about that, but the process of them knowing as a as a football team, you should not write down seventeen games and expect tiring Smith to be there for seventeen or ten war Tank

you can't do it. So there so there is a thought process that we need to address these positions. And I'm surprised they haven't. You know, i know the draft is coming a lot, but I'm surprised they haven't addressed at least a tackle position. Maybe when free agency, you don't have to be a top tier guy, Okay, you can bring in a guy like like they brought in the second year or something, you know, a second third level type tackle that could bring into the system because

we know those guys ain't gonna go seventeen games. And here's just my thought process on the first off about the first waves of free agency. Best ones don't get out there. Yeah, you're writing teams like to keep you know, if you feel good, they're not gonna let you hit it right. The best ones are not getting out there. It's just a rarity. So so that's why right back,

you're not talking about the best one. So now are you trying to pay top dollar for you know, overpaying for some money you know a guy who's okay to me? This is from the cowboy standpoint. You go to the draft, see where you are. Then after that you can go addressed. Then you can get just a lower tier free asient, right, Okay, So that's that, that's where you go there. And I don't have a problem with the strategy because so many times this is where I think people get the cowboys

who are beating them up. Right now, most of the most of the free agency money spent that first week is bad. It's an overpay and a lot of times what you're paying for are not the top players. You're just playing. You're paying the top guys available at that time. Look at Christian Kirk eighty four? Is he eighty four million dollar receiver? No? I mean like people are, man, they haven't done anything. Just Brandon Car, Brandon Car scared him.

Brandon Car, Well, yeah, because they paid for Kansas City's number two. You paid fifty million dollars for a number two guy. And this is way before your time. But it's when the Mets paid Bobby Benia all this money. Bobby Bania was a good player. But the guy you really wanted to pay, the guy who was the dude to get was Barry Bonds. Yeah, it is the oku when the Cowboys are winning super Bowls under Jimmy, Alvin Harper became a free agent in Tampa Bay. Sign him

and all this money. You're like, oh, this dude's a bus He was number two, So you gave number two guys number one money and so many times a free agency, that is what's happening. Yeah, I could, I could dig it that we or you're paying a good player great money. Then you're sitting here, man, because he not a great player. I e. Byron Jones, good player number the richest free agent contract ever for for a corner. No, but that's

but that's what free agency is. Yeah. Yeah, And then you know I look at us from the other way. And we talked about this before on the show. You know, we talked about having this way of building it through the draft and building it through developing players, and but I always come back to that same question. You know, what has that gotten us these past ten years? You know, we got a couple of division championships, But is that

really what the goal is here? I mean it is that really what we're striving for to win a division? I'll give you. I'll give you this. And here's an interesting because his how the Cowboys have bound success through the years has been trading for other people's assets that they have now deemed you know, we want to move off Charles Haley. That was that was clutch, that was huge. We've seeing that most recently Amari Coop Cooper changed. He changed night for day. You did you look at what

the Rams did bringing in von Miller. Yeah, So to me, that and once again, these aren't free ahent moves. These are trades. These are trade Matt Stafford okay. So so that to me is that's more of an interest to me than necessarily saying let's go get a free ah. Now, with some of these trades, keep in mind, depending on who you get, you may have to also bring another contract with them or let them go. Von Miller that

was worth it. They gave up as a mercenary game, you know, and he was playing for the end and he was. He was, in my opinion, of the difference maker for them because as he helped er Donald go to another level of leadership. So that's worth it. Charles Hayley, they brought him in final piece, he had another level of leadership. Here was a guy the youngest team in the league. Here was a man who was played a part of two Super Bowl championships with San Francisco forty ninety.

So therein lie the benefit of him. So to me, it's all about looking at what's favorable to you. Now, do all these trades work out? They try Roy Williams a receiver that that didn't work out. I really didn't work out at all. I was a bad trade. It was a bad trade. So do you think currently constructed as a team is right now? You know we're gonna

add some pieces in the draft, understand that. But do you think this team currently constructed can make a run, can make a long run, not just you know, winning division? Can they do that? Okay, it's a good question. I'm gonna take a break and I'll give you my answer. I'm a little pessimistic, but I'll get my answer. On the flip side of this is the players lunch about to you by Hotels dot com at Dowa Skowboys dot Com Radio. That's Smoothie King. We are blending goodness to

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just throw this out here. You ask the question, you keep talking about a deep run. Man, I'm just not here to talk about deep runs because it hasn't happened, yeah, for ever in a day. So so I'll just man, will you want me talking about something like? Why am I talking about something doesn't happen? Because we're trying to figure out how what formula can get them to that

to where it can can happen. I mean, we were we do the same thing each and every year as far as draft and you know, building players and all that other stuff. But it doesn't really it doesn't really get us to the final goal. So we're doing. Is that the definition of insanity doing the same thing expecting a different result. I don't know, I don't know where can we get to where, Like it doesn't even have to be a free adient, like we were talking about

the you know, the top tier guys. Usually bad money doesn't happen. We can do some type of trade something, but just building through the draft. I mean, this is the same philosophy that we've had for these pasts I don't know, ten fifteen years, and you've tried in different ways. I mean since since you know, since the two thousands, okay, I go back to when Campo was around here. I've seen a bunch of coaches. Okay, so I've seen I've seen them try different strategies. So none of the strategies

have necessarily worked at this point in time. Go back to the playoff game. Why did you not win the playoff game? You got bullied up front, you pull in front. Okay, so so fix that now for me, just throw. That's the passing league. You're a dB, right, this is the passing league. It is okay. You just give you a taste of the quarterbacks on the menu for you. Justin fields in year two with Chicago, Joe Burrow coming off

a Super Bowl. Tom Brady on retiring, arguably had an MVP season last year, even though he did not win it. Matt Ryan is now with the Colts. Jalen Hurts is in his third year with the Eagles, and they've given him some weapons. You were facing the Giants, you face Washington, not really scared of the quarterbacks there. You are facing Trevor Lawrence in year number two. Who's got Doug Peterson. It could be a big improvement on there. You've got

Aaron Rodgers, You've got You've got Matt Stafford. Yeah, you got some boys on the docket. You've got to go to Nashville to face Ryan, Tannehill and Derek Henry. That ain't gonna be none. You've got Kirk Cousins. So you got you gotta have. You got a first play schedule this year, right, So so right here. When I look at this, I go back to the playoff game. You had problems controlling the trenches, which ultimately lost that football

game for you. So you didn't go get von Miller. Okay, you didn't have the funds for von Miller, who got paid a very nice contract to go to Buffalo, So bring him. Gregory Brat Okay, yeah, okay, okay, let me taste all right. I'm I'm one of the odd people out here on the Dallas Cowboys y podcast network. Now I'm okay with Randy Gregor. Okay, when I initially saw that five year, seventy million, I'm like, come on, man, dude, that six I've never seen I've never seen her do

with six sacks. If people were ready to go give a gold jacket too. He missed a lot of games, though, dude, he's Randy Gregory. Ain't Randy. Why are you Harvey Marcus a lot of games? Dotor Marcus ware if he put seventeen together, which he can't, he has the capability of doing so he can be a presence. But you know, like you said, it's not it's not our problem anymore. You know, that's Denver situation. Denver never got a good We gotta figure out how we're gonna fix these trenches

on both sides of the bank. You, that's what you gotta go do. Because we also got to realize the law is not gonna go seventeen. So at pick twenty four, that's from a picked twenty four. I need to see somebody in the front seven on defense or somebody on the offensive line. Man, that's what I'm looking for. Twenty four. That's what I'm looking for. Man, we gotta figure out something because I don't hear anything about the wide receiver.

No dB. I don't know dB right now because you know, with the situation with with with a you know, a couple of jobs. I don't know. I don't know. What do you do last year? Not a thing? Okay, let the league interception? Didn't you it's why we can't Why are we counting on him? So we're good with what we got, man, dud got his whole law and order troubles. Ain't not not just looking at him. So you we're

good with what we got at dB. If in the first round, I'm looking at I said front seven or defense or the trenches, because I go back to the great line of Warren sat once said, back to work without the front. You're right about that. You're right about that, And we gotta have some death pieces somewhere, because what allowed Michael Parsons to be as dominant and as you know, as bullish as he was, was when he went back

the linebacker, we still had two edge rushers. When he went to the edge, we still had guys that can play linebacker in instead, we had Keano Neil Helve. We don't got Kanta new anymore. So you know, it's gonna be hard to kind of move him around as a chess piece when we don't have guys that can back him up as well. So we got to figure out something on that defensive line or like you said, the whole front seven to be able to get the most out of our top tier players. And that's not sexy, Okay,

that's the thing. It's not gonna be sexy when you're talking about pick pick twenty four, pick fifty six, and second round, where I'm looking at guys that are not necessarily going to be that ye, you're not gonna be They will not come up on your fantasy draft, okay, because they're not going to be you know, position players. They've got to get better up front man on both sides of the football, And for me, that that is just the key, dude, and it's just not sexy for anybody.

Can you see them bringing back a like Brent Urban. I mean, we didn't get a lot of We didn't get a we have a small sample size of him, but he's another guy who can at least take up space down there, at least take up blockers or let those linebackers run side line the sideline. I'd like to see a bigger taste of what he got. But you know, it's another guy in free agency that's you know, he's not one of the top tier's not gonna break the bank,

but you can also prograss some depth. You know. What I also come back to this is that is okay, that was good enough last year. But when you talk about improving there, trying to go back it, can it help you go deeper? I don't necessarily know about that. Um yeah, I go back into the playoff game here and like, man, let me go back here and just just hit on this number. Okay, San Francisco thirty eight rushes,

one hundred and sixty nine yards. You know they control the ball for forty s say, thirty four minutes in the playoff game, the one in the time of possession. Okay, so that's what they did rushing to football. Here's what you did rushing to football, Cowboys. Twenty one attempts, seventy seven yards. That's not gonna get it done. Okay. So, as you well know, it's a former player. This is this, we're about this. This is the inches, baby, this is the trenches. Now you had Jimmy Garoppolo with a bad

thumb out there. It's trying to throw the game away and he's and we still couldn't capitalize on it. Jimmy wasn't good. Jimmy was not good. But okay, sixteen to twenty five, one hundred and seventy two yards a pick QBR sixty eight point six and he missed a lot of receivers out there. He missed a lot. So I mean, so so with this is show your quarterback wasn't good, but they were so good at running the ball that this guy and his team walked out with a twenty

three to seventeen victory. Few it wasn't good enough. Then on the other side, here's here's Zeke twelve rushes thirty one yards, Tony Pollard four rushes, fourteen yards. It's just not that's sixteen total touches for those guys at least carrying the football. Remember how many sacks Dak had in that game? Five man trenches? Okay, So so we talked about, oh, let's go get a receiver really trenches? Is that? Is that what you need? And I understand forty nine ers,

they've got a hilacious defense, especially in that front seven. Yeah, but we gotta be able to protect the quarterback a little bit better than that. Okay. So just going on receiving in this in the playoff game, all right, Cowboys had, uh boy, how many look how many guys caught passes in this game? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine nine dudes caught passes? How many was you? How many? Did I mean? Eight? Eight? Eight? Guys got caught passes?

Twenty four twenty four receptions, two hundred and seventy yards, one touchdown, one touchdown. Ceedee Lamb had one catch for twenty one yards. Yes, and that's what scares me about this receiving room right now. If we're looking, he's supposed to be the number one guy, right, this is supposed to be number eighty eight. Is you know you got the number one? You know he's supposed to be that guy.

But if you looked at it in a regular season, I think it was about the last seven games he didn't score touchdown, or it was something ridiculous like that, or like six sixty. So it was like, man, that's what scares me. So it's supposed to be our guy

to the number one. So if we're talking about trying to fix this thing, for me, I think it's got to be within the front seven, stopping the run and trying to figure out how you can establish and protect the run and protect This is where football still won. And for the cowboy fans out here who like to remember the triplets or they like to remember the glory days of a Drew Pearson, I would challenge you to go look at the offensive and defensive lines of those

championship teams. Yeah. People never talk about, or at least they don't talk about enough that the Super Bowl twenty seventeen, Jimmy's first one, and no more defensive league, more defensive the league, man, every team I've been a part of every good team. I went to the playoffs four times. Every time I went to the playoffs, either offensively or defensively, we had an hilacious front. You know those years with the Cowboys fourteen and sixteen. I mean, look who we

had up there. We had a team t Smith and his prime Frederick, you know Martin. The front line was amazing and then Jacksonville. Defensively, our front line was unreal. Klais Campbell, Yah, Nick. I mean the trenches. It might not be sexy, you know, it might not be you know, everybody listen, oh man, you see what they did on ESPN. Look at these highlights, but I'm telling you it still

wins games in this National Football League. And that's, you know, being able to be strong up front in the trenches. It could take you a long ways. And as we've seen last year, if you don't have it, you're not gonna go far in the playoffs. The reason why the Cincinnati Bengals are not World champions is on the final drive they could not stop Aaron Donald Miller. That's it. Couldn't do it. Your last two drives, you couldn't. You

couldn't keep them off your quarterback. I don't care who you got the skill position, because Cincinnati was He had a little thank you. But if you can't block, it's gonna be hard to win games. It's gonna be hard to win the whole things. But all right, um, last year you and I made our first round pick. We won. We we went with the quarter for the year in the row. Okay, we went with Digs the year before

they took cd Land. Last year we both were like Patrick's ten the second second who went one pick before. But we were right on point because that guy ahead. Heck of a year for years to come. Heck of a year. Danny wanted uh Slater, Sean Slater who went out to the chart and good he was all pro. Okay, he was good, a fantastic player. So let's take a break and come back. What do we think who would we like to see the Cowboys walk away with? At twenty four, Barry Church and he re scribes, this is

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this year. Thanks Vegas. Woke up, Chris Beam. You should be out there, man, there's gonna be a night, y'all. Do I'm sitting in the seat right here for three days. So Cowboys are picked twenty four in the first round on Thursday. Chris, Chris, who who do you have? Who do you have? Man? I know your brother works over scouting, so you might you might have a little pick. You might know something that's warm. Man, Come on, man, now act like you all talking. Now you don't talk to

your brother now now you talk. But they're not be done with draft meetings. They're still in draft meetings. So okay, there are I know there are on running backs on Friday because I talked to Una. Okay, so so um. Based on what you know and and producing so many of these podcasts, Chris twenty four, what do you expect the Dallas Cowboys to do? Like? Position or guy first first? I mean right now, just just based on the things you know at twenty four? Who do you expect the

Cowboys to select? Or? Better yet, who do you want? Who do you want? So many guys that can fall to you there, Okay, who would you want? Who would Chris Bean want? If Chris Bean gets to play sit up day? Whisper to Jerry turn into card, who would you say turn into card for? Can just give you a position? Yeah? Yeah, there you go. This is what I need. I think we need a huge like defensive linement in the middle of the defensive line. We haven't had that for years, to be honest with you, so

like a big space eater. Yeah, exactly. I mean Davis there both and dare just gonna fall back to us. I think, you know, I think they're gonna give the center a chance, Linda ba No, I think they're gonna give our current center a chance. Oh you didn're gonna give it a chance. Now. I could see that. I could see them going with a guard to help out next to him, you know. Okay, so there's a lot

of like Zion Johnson's out there, green some kind of stuff. Yeah, okay, So so it will be someone on the front cover because there always is. And that's what I heard on the draft show. Dude, I'm telling you, every year someone on that cover right there gets drafted at the Cowboys. Okay, Highway guy in the front front centeris who you got? Got green on there too? There is green on the green next to them, Green Green is on there. Um. Look, I am where Danny sat last year and resisted Danny.

A lot of me says I need to stop resisting what he's talking about, which is, hey, look, you gotta own them to the fact that Tyrant Smith is is he's missed so many games. Now you gotta ask yourself, is it time to go ahead and pull the plug or I should say, look at feeling foo hing gonna last, So go ahead and start rooming his replacement of there. So so that's a part of me. The part of me goes there. A big part of me loves Tyler Lindon moment out. I mean, so, if you could get

the next Jason Kelsey, would you do it? Yeah? Are we seen that when when we have a great center in the middle of that whole offensive line, getting guys lined up and making sure everybody's on the same page. This offensive line looks historically different. But when when you know, but when we lost Frederick, you know, we lost that quarterback on the offensive line, and it gets hard that way. So if you can get a guy who's athletic enough that can pull from the center position. I've seen this

guy pull on tape. He's big enough, heads enough, bricks in his pocket, he can handle his one on ones. You know, I can see it happening. I can see it happening. And look, I'm with you. Chris Davis from Georgia, Jordan Davis from Georgia would be it's a freak athlete right there. Man. Look, if I have to move up, then I'll move up one of the things. And we spoke about this on the last players. What made help what helped make Ray Lewis great? It was always a

big win in front of him, Sam Adams. Then they use a first round pick on Helodi Nodding. They were always cognizant that for the best way for us to let Ray do his thing is get some people up front so he could do his thing. Junior say, the same thing with the Chargers for you is they had some people up front. You can go. So I got a weapon, how do I help make the weapon better? Yeah, you gotta protect the weapon you got. You got a

Michael Parsons there. So, So Davis is a guy that I would look to and um, I've seen him, you know, in the mid rounds. So you know they've talked about moving up. You're at twenty four. I don't think I'm with Chris. I don't see him falling. But if I'm going to move up, I have to move up for an impact player. He's got to be a guy that could be a Day one starter, plug in play and a guy who can help affect other things. We just talked about the running game here. They couldn't run I mean,

they couldn't stop the run. On the other side, they couldn't run football. So I've just talked about two dudes who right up front can help me either helped me either way, and I have grown. I wasn't a fan when they took Travis Frederick because I wanted Sharif Floyd. I think that was it, Shari from Minnesota the tackle right then, I said, maybe it's just taking it, but they didn't and turned out that. You know, they were okay.

But man, having Travis here for the years that they did what a professional um just really a talented guy, and they have not. They haven't filled his shoes yet, done filled it. Since they have not, They've not been able to fill that sense. So I've got issues in terms of I think the current center, Tyler Bot is a nice player, but he's not Travis Frederick. You can improve there, you should get better there. If you can get a Jason Kelsey, then I would go get it.

In terms of Tyler Lindon Mom up there or Jordan Davis. So give me one of these two dudes up here that can help me stop the run or run the ball, and I'm right there with you. I mean, you get the trenches. Like we've seen, they still win you football games, they'll still lose your football games. We talked about the San Francisco game about pretty much all show. We got dominated in the trenches. So in order to get better at that, you got you got a draft down there.

And that guy from I would like you said, the center. He seems to be a guy that can be a can't miss type prospect, Like he can come in, he can plug and play. He seems like a smart guy. He could pick up the system and he can run the system. So I would have no problem at all going there at that center position. Now, if they you know, if like what Chris Beam says, they might give a you know, they're the be out of a chance there at center, then you gotta put somebody next to him.

Because we saw when who was over Who's at the guard? Was that Connor Williams was it was out there. They just I don't know, if they didn't have enough bricks in their pocket or whatever, miscommunication, whatever the case may be, that's that center guard combo right there. It just didn't really work out, you know, as far as the Cowboys wanted to do this season. So if they give the out of a chance, then they gotta put somebody next to him that can hold it down better than Connor

Williams did. And in that regard, then you got to go in the draft and look for somebody like that. And you know, Dame Bruger has us taking and his latest mock draft Zion Johnson, the guard oft of Boston College. So I'm glad with that too, whatever that whatever feels the need. As a trench, Johnson can also play tack off you on him too. He's played at every single position, so he's a versatile guy. Yeah yeah, big Zion. And

in uh six foot three, three twelve. The comp that the Cowboys have here that the Kyle Yeomans did was Brian Waters Brot Watters football player. He was in for what he was in for a little bit, playing the league for a long time. If in Kansas City kid out of North Texas. So, um, if if this, if you can get this kind of player here, you're you're You're not You're not. I'm not gonna sit up here

and say, oh yeah, getting worse. Okay, I'm okay with that, and I'm okay with that, but you gotta get yourself better. Up front here okay, Thursday, Um, it's coming, It's coming. Make sure you check out all the podcasts here on Dallas Cowboys. Check out that the Draft party as well. So and yeah, check out the Draft party. We'll be back up Monday. We'll break it down and Daniel be here to criticize everything that he didn't like. I can't wait.

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