Player's Lounge: Have They Done Enough?

it and put it out on all the social media channels. So, um, let all your friends know, kay, same is the show that we did the show today. I'm Scogs, a long time Cowboys reporter, joined by our man, former Cowboys safety Barry Church, our our other one and mate Danny mccraize. Got the week off, so Church, we're gonna go. We've got a whole lot of topics to get to here. It's April Fools Day, so we're not going to do anything crazy here, especially knowing that your your wife already

got you on April Fool's Joke today. Man, she got me good man six thirty in the morning. Uh, here a loud bang, I wake up. She's Oh my goodness, baby, the shovels followed all over your sports car, the windows busted. I'm like, oh man, So I get up, crusted all in my eyes. I'm running to the door, all what's going on? Man? So I get to the garage door. April fools. Man, You know, it took me a minute to laugh because I was kind of mad at first, and I was like, man, I forgot those April fools.

So she got me. She got me a good one the day. And see she got you because she knows. She knows that that that hot button point and you know your car, oh yeah needs something, So she knew, Oh she must. When you in the car, you go ahead, what what? What? What? Not? My not my car? Not my car? So yeah, yeah, she got good. All right, let's dive into something that you're talking about the Cowboy fans. Something they want, and let's dive into the why it

hasn't happened yet. Talking about linebacker kJ Wright looking at the Dallas Cowboys in terms of trying to improve this football team. Something we talked about here on the Players Lives. I've advocated its hey, bring in some guys that no dan Quinn system, we did. You saw him do it with coaches, You've done it with some players. Why not adding even better player than Keyan O'Neill and Demante Casey and kJ Wright who spent ten years as a linebacker

with the Seattle Seahawks. He's won a World championship there and he's a free agent now. So kJ Wright, thirty one years old, started sixteen games the last two seasons, eighty six tackles, one interception, ten passes defended last year and eleven tackles for loss of twenty sixteen Pro Bowler. What do you like about right and why do you want them? Look to me, I think kJ would be an upgrade over what we have at the linebacker position right now. I mean no disrespect to Lvee and Jalen Smith,

but I just believe kJ is an upgrade. I mean, look, he can go out there and he can be that guy that covers so that you don't have to bring a safety down or get one of these secondary players to come down to cover a tight end. Because as you just mentioned, last year, he had ten passes defense, and that's huge for any defensive to have ten passes defense.

But he did that at the linebacker position, and if you saw what he did at the Seattle defense or what he's done for the Seattle defense, he was that cover guy even when they had Cam Chancellor and Earl Thomas back there. He was that guy that took away tight ends and allow Cam Chancellor to be that that thumper, that that rat, that low hole player that looks for crossers and just uses his instinct to make plays out there. So I think it'd be a huge upgrade we were

able to get kJ right. He has the long arms and like I said, he can cover and he's an all down linebacker. He can play against the run, so he can be your first and second down guy, and he can play against the pass so he can be that third down guy. The only thing I don't really necessary love about the move if we try to get kJ right, even though I see it as an upgrade,

it's what are you gonna do with Keyan O'Neil. I mean, we got him in here to be that linebacker, that hybrid linebacker, maybe a third down sub package guy, and basically kJ Wright can do all that and more because he can be your first and second down linebacker. So if you bring him in there, what are we gonna do with Kyan O'Neil, or we gonna move transisted him all the way back to be that primary strong safety. And to me, I don't think that's a good move.

I mean, we've seen this guy in the past. Yes he's a thumper, Yes he's a good box safety, but when you put him in a deep end of the field, when you make him that true safety, he struggles. And he struggles in coverage as well, either zone or man, he can struggle. So for me, I like where Keyan O'Neil is right now being that sub linebacker. But if you bring in an upgrade like kJ Wright, something has

to happen. Either you move Keyan O'Neil back, you take you know, snaps away from Jalen Smith, or you get rid of Jalen Smith altogether. I'm not sure what that cap hit'll be because you know, his salary I believe is fully guaranteed now as of a couple of weeks ago or a couple of days ago. So for me, I just don't understand what you would do bringing him in, even though he's an upgrade, and even though he can help this defense immensely. You just already have so many

players in those pieces. I would go I would go ahead and do it, and I would get rid of Jaylen Raley, or I would just put him in there and with Kean O'Neil on third downs. But overall, it's just, you know, you don't know what to do, even though I see him as an upgrade, which you gotta see what the front office thinks. All right, So let me look at the Seattle end of this before I go back into the Dallas Cowboys positive of trying to bring

in a kJ right ten year player. We're talking about a guy who's been there, Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee, so, you know, a good guy overall. Why haven't they got him a new deal. We're talking about a team that consistently competes in the playoffs. Does that not set off a red flag and for you that, hey, here's a real good football player. They're saying, we don't know.

I could see that, but it's like, you know, like you just mentioned, he played sixteen games the past two seasons, so it's not like he's injury prone or he's missing games out here. And yeah, he's getting up there in the age. Once you cross that that thirty threshold of the the NFL, everybody kind of starts looking at you like a grandpa. But he's still making plays out there, and he's still playing at a high level. You just mentioned the ten passes defense. So for me, man, I'm not

sure why they haven't brought him back. I mean, maybe they're, you know, trying to get younger or going towards this rebuild. But to me, he still has the ability to play, and he still has to be able the ability to play at a high level. So I'm not quite sure why you know, Pete Carroll and the Seahawks haven't brought him back, But hopefully the Cowboys can go ahead and make that move for him. See if I were in scouting and i'm Will McClay, that's the question I want

to answer like a good lord. Yeah, let me figure out and find out why I do not have Why this player does not have a contract when he's been so good for so long in this organization. That that's something I dive into. Now. On the flip side, if you're Dan Quinn, obviously to get a player that knows your system, who you've won a Super Bowl with, that's valuable, and I can see the move for the Cowboys and why they'd want a kJ Right. Here comes the next

question you have, what does he want? You know that that truly is the big thing there. What does what does kJ Right want to me? If I'm a good football player and I'm out here this year in this market, especially since the first wave of free agency and the good money's gone, I would like a one year deal so I can put myself in a position next year that the cap can go up a little bit more

and possibly get myself a multi year deal. But at the same time, he's thirty one years old, so he may be looking for a multi year deal right now to say, hey, look, I don't know what thirty two if somebody's gonna be willing to give me one as a linebacker? So what does kJ want Right want in order to play for the Dallas Cowboys? And if I'm kJ Right, you know I'm looking at Lavonte David. I think they're about the same age. I think maybe David

maybe thirty and kJ Race thirty one. But he just got a multi year deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where I think he's getting eleven eleven per year if I'm not mistaken. So there's money to be had out

there for him in that age range. But you, like you said, if I'm him, I might be just signing the one year and hopefully they can give him for maybe a one for six or one for seven, and then when that money taps in with that TV agreement with the NFL and those in the cat goes skyrockets back up, he'll be able to hit the market again for a multi year deal. But like you're saying that, by the time that hits, I mean he might be thirty two, thirty three by that time. And yeah, that

age it is hard. It's really hard to get a multiple year deal unless you're a quarterback at that age in the NFL. So he may be looking to hit it, hit it one last time, hit hit a big deal one last time, like Lavonte David did. But if he's looking for that, sadly mistaken the Cowboys or not, I don't think they'll be in the plans of making him a multi year deal. I think this is more of a one and done type deal. And if they can

get that done, I'm all for it. All right, you're checking out the players last right here, on Dallas Cowboys dot com. We're brought to you by hotels dot com. So, if you have kJ Right, Layton Banderash and Jalen Smith plus a Keyan O'Neil, if you're going into um a nickel package, who are the two linebackers you want out there? If you say we have kJ right, if you add kJ right, who you know? You know you're going into a nickel and dime situation. Who's going off the field. Yeah?

If if it's a nickel situation, which is usually just two linebackers in there, I'm going with kJ and I'm going with lve. The reason I'm taking Jalen and Keyan o nile out one with Keyan O'Neil. If if they do decide to run the ball and get us in nickel and bring on eleven personnel just to get us in nickel to run the ball, I gotta have a bigger body in there. You know nothing against you know,

Keyano Nil. I know he's a thumper down in there, But when you get those three hundred pound linebackers or lineman running at you, it's hard to get him off you. It's very very hard to get him off you. And at his size, being undersized as a linebacker in there, I think he would just get swallowed him hole in there. So I got to have a bigger body in there. So I'm going with lve and then kJ Right. He can do all the things as far as covering is concerned,

that a Keyan O'Neil can do. So I put kJ right out there with him, and I let him handle all the coverage responsibilities, dropping back being that low whole player whatever you want to be, and I let Lvee handle the run responsibilities and getting everybody lined up. So I'd have those two out there just for the simple fact you've got one big guy for the run, one guy who's great at coverage, but he's also a bigger

body that can help him the run. I just don't see Jalen Smith or Keyan O'Neill being able to provide that. So for me, I got both of those guys ain't going to nickel, and I think that'd be a hell of a Nickel combination. I mean, you got kJ right, l v E, you got you know, Wilson back there at the strong KZ if he's able to come to come together at the free safety, and you've got some. You've got two corners hopefully Patrick Surtan in there and a solid nickel. You know, that's a that's a hell

of a combodation to throw out there. So, like I said, I hope we do get kJ up in here. So, man, I'm just pontificating here. If if you sign kJ right, So if you have kJ Right, Layton Vanderresh, Jalen Smith, Luke Gifford, Kean O'Neill, that's five linebackers and with an extra game added to the schedule, and looking at the health history in the past of a Layton band Resh, this could be something dan Quinn can work with. And

we keep talking about giving the Carpenter tools. If he had these five linebackers here, I believe these could be good tools that he could go out on Opening Day and feel good about his football team at the linebackers position. And this is before you get to the draft, which happens later on this month. Oh, without a doubt. And then like you said, Luke Gifford, you'd have depth there

and a Luke kit can also help out on special teams. So, like to me, the linebacker position is where you want the most depth at outside of the defensive line just because they can do so many things. They can you know, they got the run, they got the pass, but they can also help you out on special teams. You always want that big body guy I can run, who's athletic

on special teams. You've gotta have that in there. And I think that's where the linebacker position can help us overall with having more depth, helping on special teams, and helping with the injury factor. Because we know Lbe he hasn't lasted since his rookie year, so we know at a certain point in this season he made miss a game or two. Wouldn't you love love to have an easily replacement in their kJ going near handled business. You

wouldn't even miss a step right there. I think it would be a solid move, But we got to see what Will in the front office are going to do. All right, So let's dive into this Demante Kazy contract. It's one year, one point two seven million dollars and the player got one hundred and thirty seven thousand, five

hundred dollars to sign. When you see that, you basically come to the conclusion that, all right, the Cowboys five million dollar contract a whole lot of it is just kind of smoke, which is what I was gonna say about the Labonte David contract in Tampa Bay. They're signing a bunch of these contracts with avoidable years, so a

lot of it is smoke. So the whole kazy deal of five million dollars really isn't five mill But in your opinion, what are they fil I mean that Neil got five million, but I mean what what what Neil got the five million? But I mean what Casey's got with the one year, one point one to seven million dollars. What do you think they're saying about the player. I'm saying that they're telling him, but you gotta come here,

you gotta make the team. I mean, it's not if you get not not to say that that's such a low number. But we're talking about NFL. You're talking about contracts in the secondary and starting safeties and what they're getting out there. When you get a number that low, they're telling that player, Look, you you got to make the team. You're not guaranteed to come in here, and look,

you are solidified as a starter day one. They gave you basically money that you know that you gotta go out there and earn your job, and you gotta earn your reputation out there, and I think Casey will be able to do that seeing as though when he is healthy, he is a ball hawk out there, and that's what we kind of need at that free safety position, especially in that hole in dan Quinn's position, because you need a guy that has super range. I could go back

and forth. So if he can come on to the field healthy and playing his best ball, and I think he'll be able to make the team. But it shows me that this team is saying you gotta make it, and that also they're gonna look at a safety in the draft. They're gonna look at the safety I think in the draft that can help can promote some type of competition back there, because if they wanted CAZy to have the job solely, they able to pay them as such, and they would have said, hey, you know here, this

is your job to have. We want you to be the leader back there, but they didn't pay them. They gave him that minimum with I think it was one hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars sign and voter society. He has to he has to make the team, and they're gonna bring in competition, whether it be the draft or whether they bring in somebody else in free agency. They're gonna bring in competition. But the sole job of that free safety, I don't think is just simply Cazy's job.

He's gonna have to make the team, get healthy, and he's gonna have to compete in camp, and if he's able to do that and come out with the job, then they have a good free safety on their hands for the load. But overall, he's gonna have to make the team, and I think they're gonna bring competition for him. I think of this as a positive positive, meaning here's somebody that understands the system, so he can help teaching

to the other people. Other positive is if Kazy is not the player that they think he is, they can cut him into not losing any money. And the other positive to me is you need options. This is a team that last year which stuff went bad. The options were awful. Okay, the options were awful, So if the right right, So if you've got Kaz, and you could add some more through the draft, possibly more through free agency, once again, give the carpenter more tools to work with.

So I'm trying to be positive in terms of looking at what they're doing and how this can work. Ultimately, you're going to need options. Dudes aren't always going to be healthy under defense or on the offense, and Casey's a guy coming off an injury. So I think the Cowboys have really protected themselves in a lot of ways here.

If Kaz ends up playing well, then great. I go back and look at a kid from TCU, Jason Brett, who ended up signing a one year deal last year with San Francisco at quarterback, played really well as a four first round pick of the just couldn't stay healthy last year, one year deal, played well, and end up signing another deal with them. So I kind of look

at CAZy this situation here. It's a deal that goes heavily towards the team and gives the player something to really strive for and the players at least in a system that the player understands. And I just I just see a lot of positive check Martine for the Cowboys from a financial standpoint and the potential of what the

player could do if help it. Let me ask you a question, why do you think this organization just it puts such a low just such a low bar on a safety position, like what you don't think they would Why wouldn't they go out there and solidify that safety position. They could have gotten you know, Anthony Harris for five million, They could have got a Ricardo Allen for nothing. Crazy. It wouldn't up broke the bank, but they would have solidified it, like, look, this is our guy going forward

at free safety. This is it instead of running all these you know, all these not examples but experiments, like you know, they all these experiments they got going on, instead of just solidifying that free safety or why do you think that is? This is the frustration for me as a media member not having an opportunity to talk to Dan Quinn. I would love to ask him the question, what are you looking for back here? Tell me what the blueprint is for this defense here in Dallas that

you're going to run because we don't know. And the other portion is they keep telling us, hey, we got some money, but we know they don't really have some money. So that's you know, these are great, great, great questions, and maybe they're thinking that they'll get somebody post June first, or they'll thinking, hey, look we'll try to address this as much as we can in the draft. I don't know, Barry.

I mean really, I don't know, because I'm not really one sure of what the blueprint is, not just for the defense, but overall for the organization right now where you're trying to go, where you're trying to get to go back to Zekiel because that A guy stop me yesterday when I was taping my type of sports cast outside. He says, man, how many more years of Zeke? And I said, if I were you, I wouldn't be frustrated

with them. I said, I wouldn't be frustrated with the as much as I would be frustrated with the process. That the organization paid Ezekiel Eli ninety million dollars at the time, the richest contract for a running back, and they go hire a coach who doesn't believe in the run game. That's not what he does. He's a passing game guy. So you can look at the player, but really, at some point in time, when do you look at the organization and say, well, what are you? You know,

what are you trying to do? Because we had a better clue of what they were trying to do under Jason Garret, we knew they wanted to run the football, have a big, old offensive line. But if you're trying to be a passing team, do you need a big offensive line? And do you need to have spent this much money on the running back. Oh, by the way, you're still going to be dealing with his contract for a couple of more years. We just saw the signing bonus money get kicked in here, so it's not like

you just cut, just move on your way. So these are the things I said, go back overall, Perry, I'm frustrated by because I don't know, you know, who are you? That's really a question. And I got it from Buck show Walter when he once managed the Texas Rangers and he's gone on manage in the major leagues a long time with different clubs, and he always would say, knew it thing. I always ask management, who are we and what are we trying to be? And I think that's

a legitimate question. You can ask the Dallas Cowboys who are you? Because before they signed Ezekiel Elliot what everybody said, this is a running football team. You don't want Dak Prescott out there by himself. Dak Prescott's not good without Ezekiel Elliot look at his record and then they turned

the football team really over to Dak Prescott. So that's that's a big question I have, and I'd love to talk to dan Quinn to get some more about, you know, some more thoughts on what he wants this defense to be and the whole safety position. It's like, dude, you're a Seattle you had Erald Thomas, you know, this is how you know you ran your defense. You had you had Neil and Casey when you were in Atlantic, and these guys helped you end up going, you know, going

to a super Bowl. So what is it you want here? And is it here or do you need to go acquire it and get more of it? Obviously they'll tell you, hey, you know, Casey knows what we want to do, so they'll they'll pump that up. But you've already talked about how coming off an injury, you don't know exactly know what you have and the fact that they put so little money in Casey tells you what their faith level is.

So I'd love to understand from dan Quinn what is it you need on the back end to complete and compete with this defense? Yeah, Like, like you said, what's the identity of the back end. I mean, are we going to be more of a Seattle back end where they played if they played man, but it really wasn't a match man like Sherman, didn't travel with the number one receiver, they didn't do any of that stuff. And they were they were a high zone team like they

played man, but they were a high zone team. A lot of cover three, a lot of just roaming by the safeties and roaming by the corners. Is that what we're gonna be because I mean, as we've seen Digs is I think Digs in my opinion right now, I think he's more of a man corner. He locks down certain On the other hand, he can go out there and he can do both. He has a pedigree of doing both. So what type of type of system are

we gonna run? We have a whole safety and CAZy, granted if he comes back healthy from injury, who's able to be that red line to red line or rangey safety. We got that in the box kind of camp Chancellor kind of knock your head off keyan O'Neil in the box right there as well. So are we trying to model that legion of boom or are we going into a different direction. These are the questions that I wish, you know, Dan Quinn would give us a solid answer

on Richie. Gonna have to wait untill the season begins, but I definitely see them addressing this secondary in the draft, whether it be certain at the corner or getting a Richie Grant or somebody at that as safety to compete with Kaz and to compete with Wilson. I don't think we're done in the secondary, but I was just like some answers as to what the identity of this defense is going to be. All Right, we'll get into some of these players later on. Here, let me write down

Richie Grant. Richie Grant is a guy that forty four I'm not big on, as so many other people here are Dallas Cowboys on the Gallas Cowboys podcast network. But hey, you know, we all have our things. Let's take a break here. We got to get into the fact that the NFL and now has a seventeen game regular season coming up in twenty twenty one, means you can have no mores. Jeff Fisher with say that's seventy nine boom, you can't. Hey, you know, eight you go eight eight one.

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Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Radio and newe Scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter joined by former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church, our other running buddy, Danny McCray, has the day off. All right. Next week we're back to Friday, but we're doing this on Thursday, Good Fridays tomorrow and all the podcasts will

take the day off. Here. Let's dive into something that I think is big that people aren't talking enough about on social media concerning all players, especially at Cowboys Nation Berry Church, and that is that the NFL owners approved a seventeenth game. That seventeenth game is going to be the Cowboys at New England to take other Patriots. They don't they do not play well at New England. They've

never beaten Bill Belichick at New England. So Milke McCarthy versus Bill Belichick is the added game that the Cowboys are going to get as a football player, barring having played this game and gone through sixteen, what does a seventeenth game mean for the body? And how do the Cowboys as an organization need to start thinking about having seventeen games? Seventeen games? So the positives about that as for a player is, look, you get more money. That's

seventeen again, You're gonna get another check. You have more revenue coming in, a bigger piece of the pie with the owners, so you got more money coming in. And this is something that the players. I don't think they agreed upon this already, so it's not like they can really pretty much complain about it. I know I've seen a lot of the social media the players like, oh my goodness, a seventeenth game. How's my body can barely stand up for sixteen? And now you want me to

do a seventeen. But this is something that you'll agree upon. This is something that the CB, the news, CBA when it came out, the owners proposed this and you guys agreed upon it as a player. So there's not really much complaining that the players can do because they already agreed upon this. Now when we're talking about seventeenth game for the season in the body, I don't think one

more game will be that taxing on the body. I mean, look, they took out one preseason game and a little preseason for if you're if you're a bona fie starter, you're you're rarely playing anyway, as you might get in for you know, a quarter maybe at two quarters on that third preseason game. It's kind of a warm up for the season. So the preseason you're not really doing that if you're a starter. And then the seventeen games during the regular season or sixteen games or the regular season, yeah,

it's a task. It'll beat your body down and you'll by the time sixteen weeks come around, you're like, oh man, this has been a rough one. But that one more game, I don't think it's going to be that much of a difference from the sixteenth game. I could see if it was going up to eighteen or one up to nineteen games, but one more game. I think these players should be able to handle that. So to me, they don't have the right to really complain when you signed

off on that you're getting extra money. I don't see it as a as a as that big of a deal to add one more game to these players. I mean, you've seen some complaining about it, but overall, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Every plus you're getting more money. I say, you make it happen. But when we come to this New England matchup, man, I'm one in three against New England one in three. I don't know what it is about what they do up there, but it is hard. It is extremely hard to win

up there. Whether it's the weather conditions, whether they just got your number, whether they just you know, whether they scouted you today, I don't know what it is, but running up in New England is hard. In that seventeenth game, I hope, and I hope it's not to get to the playoffs. We got to win this game in order to get to the playoffs. I hope that's not the case, because it's extremely hard to win in New England against

Bill Belichick and Cam Newton. He got some weapons. They went in free agency and got some weapons there, so I think it might be a nice little battle up there. But hopefully it ain't for nothing to get to the playoffs, or we already got that sealed up. The schedule has yet to come out. If I'm the Cowboys, I'm hoping to get to New England in September. That to me is the yes, you want to play this game. It's as possible is. They're trying to add the new weapons

and integrate them into their offense and defense. But I just sit here and think out, you don't want to be there in December. You don't want to be there November. I was there for that last Cowboys game up in Foxborough. It was a cold, wet, rainy day. Neither offense could get going. The Patriots were down wide receivers, and the game was won on special teams. It was one on a block, it was one on a block, a block punt, Patriots recover, score a touchdown and that was kind of

the end. And I remember talking with Jerry Jones afterwards. I'm standing there next to Edward and Jerry was hot, and you could tell at that point in time he was done with Keith o quinn as a special teams coach, and Jason Garrett was going to find his way out of the door that was where he was because it was a winnable football game. You lost the game because

you got out coached. You lost the game because you couldn't execute on special teams at faith in the game where you know, okay, you know, Matthew Slater, it's coming. You know. Bill Belichick put the emphasis there and the Cowboys lost right there. So they've had a tough time up there in New England. Man, So I'm telling you you want to get there as early as possible. It's like a Packers game. Did you get see the Packers

on the schedule? Hope you can get the Packers sober late in the year because the odds against you are tough. It's tough, and I've been in there. I've been in both situations. I've played the Packers in the Divisional round of playoffs when it was bitter cold and lambeau Field we all remember it the catch that should have been a catch, but the refs that they were smoking wacky tobaccy or whatever they were smoking out there because it should have been a cash But anyways, the conditions are

terrible at lambeau Field. That's what the other place you don't want to go and in Foxbor. I was there for the AFC Championship in twenty seventeen. It wasn't the it was just the bitter wind. Like it felt like the wind was just cutting through your pads because it wasn't raining, and it wasn't like it when the wind stopped, it wasn't like it was, you know, the unbelievably freezing

cold like the frozen tundra. But the wind, man, the wind cuts through your pads, It cuts through your jerseys, whatever under armor, Nike stuff you got on, it cuts through that stuff a little. If we can get them on the schedule early, I think we got a better chance of being late in the season going against Belichick and going against all those opt ins and free agents

once they jailed. I hope we get them knocked out earlier in the season because, like you said, it's hell going up to New England in late in the year like that. When I look at a seventeen game schedule and I think about some of the players that the Cowboys had who dealt with health issues the past few seasons, I think of tackles Tyrant Smith and lell College. You think about linebacker Layton Vanderesh and then here they are bringing in Kean O'Neill and Demante Kazy, guys who battled

in this seventeenth game. To me, speaks to the fact that you really have to understand and get depth. You need depth because it's already showing. We saw last year how tough it was to get through sixteen games for this football team. Now you're adding one more. Depth becomes very important. And I also come into this one. I think about death the church. You understand this because you cut your teeth here. Special teams, man. You know, when you start losing guys, Special teams is where a lot

of these backups are going to be coming from. And then if they're playing specials, if you take them off, who takes their place? This is this is an important phase of the football game that the Cowboys, in my opinion, have got to figure out how to win it. If they can figure out how if they can win the offensive and special teams phase of football game, they're gonna have an opportunity to win this division. That's how I feel. I don't know if they can, but that's just my feeling.

How can you improve those football team in twenty twenty one but adding that seventeenth game, it's going to tax you and Samarius here, it's gonna be taxing. It's gonna be taxing. And like you said, we have a team that's fielded with guys I hate to say it, but guys that are injury prone. I mean, looking back n Smith Lie College just came off hit Zach Martin. Our whole linebacking crew, I mean, our whole safety crew. If you think about Kean Kneel with the Achilles, Kazy with Achilles.

So we're fielding a team with injury prone players. So that's seventeenth game. It could be extremely taxing for this team. But that's why I love the signings of a guy like c. J. Good, one who can come in here help the special teams out. You don't really have to take him from the defense to be it be a part of the special teams. He's already entrenched in a special team so he can be there for you. And also I hope they get this done. But with that

seventeen game, we need a guy like Joe Looney. We need a guy that can go out there and he can be that interior swing offensive lineman. He could be, he could play guard center or the opposite guard. We need somebody like that who can fill in, especially with

adding another game. I don't think it'll be that taxing, but as injury prone as this whole team has been, I think we need to get depth pieces, and Joe Looney would be an excellent death piece as we've seen him come in and play well for injured Zach Travis Frederick when he was here and then he had to move over to guard last year a couple of times. So for me, I feel as that we need to

make those signings. But like you said, man, this injury prone team heading into a seventeen games regular ski regular

season that could be pretty taxing. This is where your pro personnel department's gotta be on its game here because we know come training camp, if the Cowboys are allowed to have training camp, and by all account, just hearing Roger Goodell and what people are saying that this should happen, you're gonna lose guys and you're constantly having a list of you who do we bring in here for the seventeen game schedule? Here I am, I'm worried about, Okay, where do you go? Also, we hadn't talked about it

very much. But the backup quarterback position here? Where did the Cowboys go? You weren't thinking that you needed a backup quarterback last year, but you did, and Andy Dalton was the guy that they were able to rely on. So where do you good? Yet? Do it? You know were good? Then? Baby? You know you know where I'm going with this. You know I'm gold. We are good at back. I'm telling you you gotta trust in double G Man. You gotta trust in Gilbert. He showed they

could company, he could play man. He saw against the Steelers when they at the time they were undefeated, defense was rolling. He can't even play it well. I think you gotta give him a shot to at least be the backup here. I think I think he can help you out, especially if something were to happen let's knock on wood, but especially if something would have happened to that pressed out, I think he could come in and do some damage. Man. So I think we're personally good.

I'm probably the only one out here in the Cowboys fan and the fandom or whatever that believes in Gilbert. But I'm telling you, I think we're good at that backup spot. I would I would venture to say this that Will McClay and Mike McCarthy would have their eyes open to see is there a potential backup player that they could improve upon from Gilbert with ten draft picks. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to upgrade from Ben da Nucci. To me, you gotta be out of here.

I go back to what Bill Parcels used to say. You're always trying to churn the bottom of your roster. Okay, that bottom of the roster. You know, You're trying to look at these How can we get better here? How can we find another person? The Cowboys did it last year and getting Andy Dalton that was a circumstance has just worked out well for them. So to me, that's what I'm looking to do. And Bend Nucci, I don't look.

Let's be fair to de Nucci from this standpoint. He didn't have a full training kid, he didn't have an offseason, and when he got when he got thrown in there, you got thrown into the toughest level of competition out there, and you're going from playing at James Madison University to going on the road on Sunday night football to play

against the Philadelphia Eagles. That's tough. That's tough. I don't think we should judge him and several other draft picks based on last year alone, to say, man, this guy's no good, let's give him a shot. But if you have ten draft picks and you're getting towards and you're looking towards the sixth, sixth round or so, and you see a guy that you say, oh, look, we think we could get something with this player, and Mike mccarthur thinks that they can develop them, something to think about that.

That's that's what I see. And so you could have somebody that's pushing Ben de Nucci that Denucci at least has the ability he's been in the offense four years ago, have a little bit better understanding. But I am of the belief that you should always take a quarterback. I do think that ron Wolf did very well with that, that philosophy of let's always look for a guy in Through the years, you saw the move on from an

Aaron Brooks, a mad hasseleback, a Kurt Water. They went through dudes, they went through some Mark Bark Bronelle was up there at Green Bay for a while. So they went through a lot of quarterbacks and through the years. Uh, you know, they were on point about what they were doing. So I'll be interested to see if the Cowboys continue this with the draft. I hope they do, especially Arned with ten picks um and I I you don't know how many guys. I don't see ten players making this,

ten picks making the football team. But stranger things. Stranger things have happened, But I don't think so this is true. And you know, I'm also surprised that the Cowboys didn't at least kick may Maybe they did. Maybe they did, but they didn't kick the tires on a Colt McCoy. I mean, I think he's over in Uh. I think maybe Arizona signed him or something Arizon. You know, he's been the league, he's proven as a backup, and he came in and he he was a part of that

win over Seattle, if I'm not mistaken. When he was with New York last was that natal Yeah, I believe he was with them the win over Seattle. He's a guy that he beat us before. He came in as a back up in Washington and beat the Dallas Cowboys. To me, I'm surprised they didn't kick the can on a guy like that. I'm all right, I'm all right, you're all right on that. You don't want you one

of that Colt McCoy. Uh, you know what, I believe that there'll be another cult McCoy that can can get free, especially once you This is the beauty of the draft. Once the draft gets done and once guys, once teams have to start signing these guys too. I do believe we're going to see some post June cuts. We're gonna see some guys be available with that. That will happen. So so I'm not, oh my gosh, let's go get

Colt McCoy. I'm good. I'm good. God, Yeah, I'm look at a Trubisky, looks wasn't two point five to go to Buffalo? That like we could have made a move on that. I mean, I know he's not dude, you know, you don't want him to be your starter or nothing like that. But he comes in for for for a game, for a game. Maybe you know. I'm good. I'm good,

I'm good. Look, I watched I watched a lot of Carolina football man and the thing about Mitchell Trubisky coming out of school that I never understood he couldn't beat at Marquis Williams, and the coaching staff was trying to be that try like, dude, you can beat this guy. He could never beat Marquise Williams, who's nothing more than a practice player on an NFL squad for a couple

of years. So that had I had questions there. Then he had only thirteen starts and so he ends up being thirteam All acc behind Lamar Jackson, who won the highs for that year at Louisville and Deshaun Watson, who went on to win a national championship. So I just never got the whole Trubisky deal. And I shake my head at the process of how this guy got pushed up in the draft process and people thought he was going to do all these things that I just like,

huh wait. And so when you talk about bringing Mentell Trubisky and now you know what you are. Now you're adopting that dog from the shelter. This this headed issues issues of polem. Might mean bite, you don't know what you're getting out. You know what kind of dog you get. You know you got it from the pound. We don't know. But because the take off would be so much lower. I don't want that, dude, Okay, I don't want that dog. Okay, I'm gonna try to fight a better dog, all right, No, No,

I don't want I don't want that. Man. I'm good, I'm good. Man. He's like, he's like that. Uh you when you go to the pound, you see when they say mix terrier mix, you know, uh um, you're like that, you know what the mix is because they told me because our dog, our dog looks like a boxer, like, oh, it's a boxing And then when you looked at the little the little car, he said boxer mix, Like, well,

what's the mix? Mix? Was pitbull? They don't They don't say boxer pitbull because you probably I don't want a part of pitbull. So you don't know. I don't know what I get mental to risk. So I don't want let Buffalo deal with that. If you're the cowboy, we don't need to deal with Where the dude who's been all scattershot out, I don't know what I'm getting there, man, I don't know. I don't know because this dude has

been put through the ringer. I remember the story, worry where and that came out that he was mad that they had NFL network on at the facility because they were trashing in Oh yeah, man, yeah, that was so I couldn't believe he said something like that, man, like a couple on. Man, you even quarterback in the National Football And he said, turned it off because I don't want to hear the negative talk about me. I mean, the couple got you gotta be you got you gotta

be a little bit stronger than that. Yeah. See, I just and I just look at him overall. This was a this was a player who was overdrafted Day one. I was just I was just never a Trabisky fan because I go back to what Bill parcels. You're talking about how many starts he wanted to see out of a quarterback and what do you want? He didn't fit any of that. He just didn't not fit any of that. And the player they were talking about, I'm like, wait a minute, this guy's not better than Deshaun Watson. Fact

had happened Deshaun Watson, you know, wasn't even a game. Um. I just when I looked at the resume of what Watson had coming out of Clempson, I look at what Mitchell Trubisky. I'm like, how was this a conversation? But it was. And you think about how much Chicago look not just Chicago, look at everybody who passed on Mittell true who I mean, who passed on the Shaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes and the quarterback situations they find themselves in. Today.

You got Chicago, all right, Chicago passed. They were trying to trade three first round picks, try to get Russell Wilson. They don't have a franchise quarterback. So then you have the forty nine ers. Forty nineers decided they didn't want either one. Okay, then now here would start with Jimmy g just trading a boatload to get the third pick in the draft. Love the jacket they got the Jaguars. Jaguars, we want to take Leonard Fournette. I think Fournette was four,

but they took Leonard Furnette. He's no longer on the football team. Now they've got the number one pick, they're taking Trevor Lords the Jets. Jets decide we're going to take safety Jamal Adams instead of taking the Shawn Watson to Patrick Mahomes. Here the Jets with the second overall pick, talking about dumping Sam Donald, who they took number three pick a couple of years ago, you know, back in the back in the you know, the quarterback business, because

they haven't gotten a guy. So all these teams who passed on a dude, and I always go back to Watson because he had to proven resume, Harry, that was it. Patrick a winner, you know, Mahomes was a guy in Alabama. He's a winner. I'm surprised, man, just like you. I'm surprised, right. You know, Cleveland, Cleveland had two shots at it. Cleveland the number one pick. They took Miles Garrett of Arlington

turned out to be the right pick. But then they had the twelfth pick in the first round and they traded it away and Houston came up and got it from Cleveland and they took Watson. So I'm just shaking my head at these teams and made these mistakes here and after you after these guys, we think about this now, after these guys have failed, okay, because Mitchell Trubisky's a failure for them, you don't what are you going to get and how much work do you have to do

to rebuild this guy. You know, you're that's a lot. So you're saying the cowboy right now, Dak Prescott gets hurt again, you want to throw Mischell Trubisky out there. You'll be comfortable with that, you okay, That's why I am comfortable, though. I say, I'll tell you what we gotta we gotta be in the greet. All right, Well, can we agree on this one? Double g Gilbert. I think it's a better backup solution than what we got in the league right now, like like because you don't

you're not a fan of coulpe McCoy. You ain't liking at your bisky Chase Daniel. I just think he's there. So I think I think we got a solid backup. I mean, unless I were saying there's something in the fifth or sixth round, I think that's solid. I think that's solid option. I would I'm right here, take colpe McCoy to camp and go figure it out. I'm at col mcoy. I mean, Garrett Gilbert, take Gilbert the camp

and figure it out. You're the Cowboys. I mean I don't, I don't have I'm not sitting here saying no, no, no, let me see more. You know, let's once again on ota a training camp, some preseason contests. Let's see what happens. Mike McCarthy spoke about wanting more competition at his press conference two weeks ago when I was at there, So I'm not opposed to Gary Gilbert, but I'm also not opposed to saying, hey, what else could happen? What else

could follow your way? Because you can get lucky that way. And maybe you have another case where like Andy Dalton says, hey, look, you know what I just want to beat right here in Texas and this makes sense for me. Who knows how the Cowboys can get lucky. Got lucky with Everson Griffin, they got lucky with Robert Quinn, and in each situation was a little bit different. But you saw yourself getting a player that you didn't expect to get at a

price that was comfortable for you. So let's see if that ends up turning that way for the quarterback market. All right, Look, there's guys I want to get to here, but let's touch on the draft. Kyle Pitzpatrick Stain justin feels Richie Grant will do that next. As the players lunch brought to you by Hotels Dot com continues right here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Hey they're Cowboys fans with Tight Cleaners at Home pickup and delivery. Cleaning

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brought to you. Buy hotels dot com. We are in our SWBC virtual home studios when we scrotch long time Cowboys reported joined by former Dallas Cowboys safety Barry Church are other runner buddy Danny McCray has the day off, so let's get into the draft. The Cowboys currently have the tenth overall pick in this year's draft, which is this month because now it's April first. Kyle Pitts is a guy that Cowboy fans keeps salivating over. The tight end from Florida who in eight games, Church had seven

hundred and seventy yards and twelve touchdowns. He had his Pro day this week. The clocked in at four point four four in his forty times each two hundred and forty six pounds merely six six and has the largest wingspan for a wide receiver or tight end in the last twenty years. So you look at Kyle Pitts and he checks off a lot of box And here's what I'll say to the Cowboy fans who want them stop. The guy's not going to be there at ten. Okay, it's not. When you look at everything, people say, it's

not gonna be there. So the retort I keep getting back, Well, they say about CD Lamb last year. Here's the thing about wide receivers in Church. You understand it's very well having been a defensive bat. Different teams have different schemes and different visions for players. The Raiders wanted Henry Ruggs. Their idea was looking at Henry Ruggs basically like a Tyreek Hill two point uh. Hey man, we want a speedy guy, Bam, let him get out here. Ruggs isn't tall,

but he's super super fast. So Jerry Judy ended up fitting exactly what the Denver Broncos wanted in a wide receiver. And these are the things that happen. And so wide receivers it's a different there's a kind of a different play you want to got to be an ex me, so there's different things you want from a receiver in terms of your scheme. Kyle Pittsson Titan is pretty pretty pretty simple of what it is you're gonna want from

the player. So I don't think it's gonna be like a CD Lamb where you have Hey, there's different types of receivers and fit us versus. Hey, here's Kyle pitch. You kind of know what he's gonna do. Do you want yourself a George Kittle, Travis Cass, Travis Helfy. Right, That's that's what you're kind of looking at right there. So I think it's a lot different than looking at wide receiver. And based on that, I don't see him

fall in the tent. If he's the generational talent, and if he's cooking the way our guy, Dave Hellman says here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and he's cooking up quarterbacks, then there's no way he falls to ten. That's my tent. Yeah, there's no way. You're completely right, man. Look this guy, as everybody says and all the reports out there, is supposedly this generational talent, and he's a mismatched nightmare, especially when you line him up at a tight end position.

And I don't doubt that the guy ran a four point four or five out there at his protay at two hundred and forty five pounds. I mean, that's extremely hard to do. That's extremely hard to run with if you're a linebacker of safe or anything like that. That is pure speed. He has the height, like you mentioned, he has the are the longest arms in the past twenty years, so you know, his catch radius is extremely ridiculous. So this guy will not fall all the way to ten.

But even if for some miraculous, crazy reason he ended up falling to ten, I still wouldn't personally. Personally, this is my personal opinion. I would not go and get him. Yes, he can be a mismatched nightmare and all that other stuff, but we already have mismatched nightmares on our offense. Our offense is already loaded. And this is a team sport. It ain't like basketball where you're like, oh, let me just add another superstar and we'll take off. No, this

is a team sport. And if you have such a heavy loaded offensive side and your defense is struggling mightily like we did last year, I don't care who you got out there, you're not gonna do anything. You're gonna end up being we will now end up being seven and seven and ten or something like that. You won't be able to go out there and compete on every game basis because some teams out there, to build Belichi teams of the world out there, they're gonna find a

way to take away cowfense. They're gonna find a way to take your offense and knock it down a little bit, and you's when you're gonna need your defense to step up. And if we don't have anybody, we don't have talent or anybody on the defensive side of the ball to go ahead and match up, we're gonna be struggling. We're gonna struggle as a team, and we're gonna be writing the same boat we were last year saying what's going on? Why aren't we winning these games? We're giving up too

many points? Well, we kick the can too far down the road on the defensive side of the ball. We need to subject. We need to go ahead, and we need to pick defense. I'm gonna be a complete one. We need to pick defense. Church. Look, I've been singing that same song with you for a while, but I'm gonna ask you this question because I consistently hear this when people hit me on Twitter at NEWI scrugs. It's

any Wy scruggs on Twitter. Take the best player available and you figure it out to figure out the rest later. Just take the best player available. So, if the Cowboys big Board has Kyle Pitts rated as one of the top four players in the draft, any team miraculously, which I don't believe, but miraculously sits there at ten. Do you follow your board or do you go with the defensive? Need you tell me what you do? No? No, because I feel like that's a luxury for teams that have

already had an established team. They already have an established identity on both sides of the ball. They got what they want, and now they're just like, all right, well let's pick you know, this is the best guy available. Let's let's just add them. Let's just add them to the team. We don't have that luxury as a Cowboys. Yes, we have a stacked offensive team with multiple guys out there who can catch the ball and do damage after

they catch the ball. We're stacked offensively. Defensively, we're the exact opposite. We're injury prone, and we got demolished last year.

So for me, if you're going out there saying, all right, let's just pick the our best, the best available player, he's the highest ranked on our board, and let the chips fall from there, I think you're gonna sit there and be in the same situation that you were in last year, where you have a struggling defense and an offense that can be one injury away from from from being you know, not as good as we thought they

were coming into the season. So for me, I don't think we have that luxury of going best available player. I think we need to hit the defensive side of the ball and make sure that side of the ball can match our potential in our power on the offensive side. If we can do that, then we have a team

that can actually do damage out there. But if we're just gonna keep stockpiling on offensive side of the ball, I know it sales tickets, and I know they love to put up points and all this TV rings and all that good stuff, but you're not gonna win many games. You need to have a balanced team, and right now we're a heavily, heavily talented offensive team, not so much

on the defensive side of the ball. That's why for me, if there was a defensive linement or a defensive you know, person in the front seven that stood out amazingly, I say we would go had to go get that guy. But there's not that guy in this draft on the defensive line that can make I think the changes that this team that this defense is need. There's just not

that guy out there in this draft. So I mean, you gotta address our secondary, and I think you go to I think he goes to our tam All right, So based on Patrick's your team and looking at so far of what people are projected, Okay, we could see a lot of quarterbacks go early on the Cowboys. Could could be sitting here looking at Cirta, which, according to most rankings, is the highest rated defensive play. Let's say

he goes nine to the Denver Broncos. If Patrick's off, If if Cirta's off the board, where do you go? That's a toughie, man. It depends how it depends how much I think personally, it depends how much you love the corner from South Carolina, Jays Horn. I believe his name is Yeah, I believe because killn Farley, the guy from Virginia, the corner from Virginia who many had above certain before he had this back surgery and all that stuff. I think once he had those injuries and has to

have surgery, I don't think that high. Yeah, he dropped out. You don't. You don't want to go that high and pick him because he won't even be ready until Campell, who knows how to shape and all that other type of stuff. So me, you gotta look at the corner from South Carolina to see if he if he's in the same ball parker, if he's in the same realm as a certain and he's worth getting that number ten pick.

If not, then you might want to trade back. You might want to trade back, stop pile some picks and adjust the defense that that way, get a lot of picks on the defensive side of the ball that way. But for me, I'm still I'm still even if certain for some reason's not there, I'm still not go on offense. I just to me, I just we just don't have that luxury. So I would trade back. So let me throw this here at ten. Would you be comfortable with linebacker Micah Parsons from Penn State. I don't think so.

I don't think because I don't think, okay, him at the linebacker would be that game changing of a player out there. I don't think he brings that that edge rusher that would go after the quarterback every day. I don't think he brings that Miles Garrett type playmaking ability every single down. I think he's a great piece, and I think he can be a great piece on a

deep that surrounds him with great pieces as well. But at ten, Michael Parsons, he's super athletic, he can you know, he has all that, But I don't think he can fit in this defense, seeing that we already have a Keyan O'Neil. We got that jail and we got that LV. I just don't see where he would fit and then make our defense that much better seeing as a certain he could come in and plug and play immediately and upgrade our secondary. So for me, I still trade back.

I don't see Michael Parsons as that type of game changing player out there. I could be wrong, but I just don't see him as that game changer. Now there's thoughts about the Cowboys trading out at ten, and I've talked about it before here. But if you are in, if you're wanting to trade up, say you're the Bears. You want to trade up and you want to acquire a quarterback, you know the Cowboys aren't taking one at ten, so you don't need to come up to ten. You

go to eleven. See what I'm saying. I mean, you know, Cogol Cowboys aren't the team you You probably don't call the Cowboys. But it'll be interesting and if Justin Fields and I told you I had this process back in December, man I said, Man, Jack will fall on this process because it's just the way it happens. Man. Every year, it seems to be a not every year, but every few seasons there seems to be a black quarterback in the mix of the first round. He just gets obliterated

through the scouting process and Justin Fields getting trashed. Dan Orlovski telling the Pat McAfee that he heard that Fields was quote last guy in, first guy out, and quote questions with Justin Fields work ethic and quote where's his desire to be a great quarterback? That these were things if people were telling him. Then he comes back out today with a very long, lengthy statement saying, Hey, I talked to Ohio State coaches and they dispute what was

heard around here. But you're just still seeing Justin Fields take a hit. Now, if you're the Dallas Cowboys, this could play to your benefit. Maybe somebody does want to come to ten to get Justin Fields. We have seen the tenth overall pick in play. If you want a quarterback, Patrick Mahomes was a ten Okay, Kansas City went from twenty seven to ten with the Buffalo Bills in order to get Patrick Mahomes, and the Bills ended up getting

a first round pick the next year. And then the pick they used the twenty seven it was Tredavious White. What a great pick that turned out to be a trade. It turned out to be for the Buffalo Bills. Then the other ten pick we saw was Josh Rosen, where Arizona went up to go get him and they selected him from UCLA. Ended up not working out because the very next year they decided to go ahead and when they had the number one pick and they took Kyler Murray. But we have seen ten in play, so how far

how far did the Cowboys want to find? That could be that to me, could become the thing. If there's a trade in play, how far do you fall? The Bears could be there at twenty looking for something, The Patriots at fifteen could be looking for something. The Raiders, I think they married seventeen, they could be looking for something. So there's some teams that couldn't make a move. Before the Championshisco made the trade. I thought, hey, maybe they

could do something here, and they did. But they went all the way the three. So we'll see, man, this thing and this thing. If they're a cowboy finger, why this wide open? It could be a possibility. I mean, you look at if the Jets decide to hold on to Sam Donald and just get you know, options around him, get weapons around him, you could see one of these quarterbacks dropped, you know, a Trey Lance or Justin Fields dropped all the way to ten. But I'm surprised, I'm remarkable.

You were completely right about this about how Fields would get tracked. And I was just like wow, like I'm watching, yes, being and watching all these things, and no matter what's going on, I've never seen somebody dropped so far when there's no games to be played, Like there's see, we've seen what his resume has. He's been to the college football playoffs two years back to back as the Ohio State starting quarterback. And it's just after the games of

being played. You say, all right, he's the second best quarterback in his draft as soon as the games are done. I don't see how he's dropped. I've seen some reports where he's beep down and maybe pick fifteen, like you said, pick fifteen with the Patriots. So I don't see how someone drops that far when there's no games being played. But like you said, it's just this is how it is nowadays. Hey man, I go back to when Teddy

Bridgewater was criticized for his hands. Oh, Teddy Bridger, he got small hand, got small hands, and I remember Gil Brand had tweeted something out about the hands. And then there was another quarterback. I can't remember the quarterbacks name, but the quarterback ended up having the same amount of hands, the same the same hand size, I should say, and they were like, yo, hands were good. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

And then Bridgewater and his mom, I guess his mom was his agent, and so he got docked on that and people like his pro day wasn't good that he wore the glove. I mean, it was a bunch of stuff on Bridgewater where this young man they ended up getting run down and and it was crazy. It was absolutely crazy. So, um, I'm not shocked. We saw what happened with Deshaun Watson. Who else got hit in this

process here a couple of years ago. So it was Bridgewater Watson, it was another it was another black quarterback, and it's escaping my mind right now. But but we've seen this happen and it's just what it is. And Justin Fields, I told you it was going to be a guy that got hit. I remember telling Pat Doney my weekend guy over NBC five, and he didn't believe it. About Fields, I was like, dude, just watch this process

is going to kill him because it normally does. And now we see a guy like Matt Jones rising up super high like we saw Mitchell Trubisky. So this is this process can be cold, and you just gotta hope that you don't fall in the in the crosshairs of it because it doesn't make sense. It didn't make sense for Deshaun Watson. The very things that Deshaun Watson was criticized for his senior year for interceptions by Todd McShay were excused by Todd McShay when Sam Darnold came out.

It's like both guys were asked to do a lot by their by their coaching staff and it resulted in picks. But the coaches were like, hey man, look um, we don't care. Just just just just stay you know, just do your thing. We don't care about the picks. Just you know, it was all on you. So it's a process. It is. It's tough, man, It's tough. John Finds seems booked. The quarterback Doug Williams talks about, Uh, these these instances in these cases for these quarterbacks, man, and it could

be an unfair process. And there's gonna be some other players to get run down as well. This is what happens. It's time to the year. Guys get run down. But turn on the tape, is what I just simply say, Man, turn on the tape and if you just it, Fields, I feel for him. From that standpoint, you're also getting hit for Dwayne haskins failures. You're not Dwayne Haskins. To'd be like, you know, how come Ohio State quarterbacks don't do anything well until Patrick until Patrick Mahomes came along?

To anybody in Texas exam was anybody producing anything from Mississippi State until Dak Prescott came along. So it's it's it could be an unfair process. So, uh, it is what it is, man, it is what it is. But uh too, it's tripped man. So I feel for Fields. Hey man, the hour has flown by here, Happy East year to you and the Church family. Chris, be my appreciation. Man. We appreciate you. Always crush it making sure we get on the air. To everyone who watched, we really, really

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