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Barry Church shares his thoughts and experiences from playing on the Jaguars "Sacksonville" defense and compares them to the 2022 Dallas Cowboys defense and more.

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The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, Heckma Harrison and Knew he scrugs. Tuesday Players Lounge by Tostitos. That's right there. It is HECKM. Harrison, Barry Church, former Cowboys safety. I'm new baby on a site Cowboys, Packers, Lambo Fields, Sunday, Cold as hell. Yes, yes, I gotta

figure out what I'm gonna wear. Figureut what I'm gonna wear. So it's your goose. Did you one of them big googe jackets? You're gonna be ang? I don't have anything like that, man. I still have my double layer jacket that I got in nineteen ninety five. Starter was a starter jacket. It was an American Eagle coach that Bill Belichick. When I first when I first went to Cleveland, and I was in the locker room and the producer Lisa introduced me to Bill, and Bill says, you know, hey,

how are I where you from? I said, from Austin Texas like that the thickest coach your own. I said, yep, you'll be buying a new one, double layer. I didn't know what he was talking about, but I ended up buying the double lair coat. I still have that coat today, end miraculessly it fits as you're doing something good? Right? What's so? Yeah? So I will I will be taking that too. You don't have one of them, inspect the gadget trench coats. I don't like trench coats, not a

big trench coach person. But my time living up North, Man I had so. I tell people now, if you moved from the South and you're going up north, you need a clothing allowance to buy things that you've never heard of. I mean somebody told me, like wool socks you need, like what the woolve socks? So I mean stuff that I never had. So um, it is something living up there's a whole different culture change, my man. So I would see your uncle can tell you his

whole stories. Hey, I know I went from Dallas in Manhattan, Kansas and that was that was a shock that Kansas cold is different kind of cold. Trees blocking it out of the play. Yeah, man, Missouri. When I was in Missouri, I spent a summer in Missouris why is it so hot here? I guess hot? But it then in the summertime, I mean I went in the wintertime it gets cold. Is you know what it was like? What's the purpose of literally you want to avoid one or the other? Right,

that's me? But so um, heck, you have questions for Barry Church and I want to give you the floor to go ahead and what's happening? Yeah, I mean what I wanted to do? What I what I really wanted to do, because obviously we got so much going on Cowboy Land. There's a lot of going on. It's like, obj, we'll get to open We're gonna get to all of that. But I really I posed the question this morning on the on the text, and I was saying, and can you live with this running d Is it something that

you could deal with? I mean, with all the things that the defense does, well, can you live with that? But then I got to thinking, and then I thought to myself and I said, self, what's happening. I know a guy that was on a good defense, the Saxonville Jaguars. Now this Saxonville defense. Dog, y'all ranked up top on everything, y'all turnovers, sacks, all of those things. But where was

the weakness in that defense? I mean, you went all the way to the AFC Championship with that defense being top tier, and the defense was considered to be special. Now this defense is on the cusp right there of being called special. Nobody's jumped out the cake to say, oh this all this is special especial. They right there right, But what was it for you? Like that? You said, look, we're good at all of these areas, but this is

the one chink in the armor. If y'all had if we had any man like you said, we were solid on all phases. I mean when you talk about, you know, run defense, we was up there. Past defense, We was definitely up there. Getting after the quarterback. They called us Saxonville for a reason, and then taking the ball away. So we was up there and pretty much each and

every one of our categories. I say. The only thing that really kind of gave us kind of a little bit of trouble, just a little bit of trouble was when teams went fast on us. You know, when team when teams had that up tempo and that's how Brady ended up beating us in an ASC championship. They went fast tempo and it didn't really give us an opportunity to really set our defense. When we got our defense set, it was a problem for anybody out there, any offense

once we got set. But when you went hurry up and had to force us to stick and remain in one personnel group or one specific defense, that kind of gave us trouble because even though we had, you know, players in each level of the defense, not a lot of those players were versatile. You know. We had some guys that specifically got after the passer, some guys that specifically were stopping to run, guys linebackers, the same thing. So when you gotta stuck persist in a specific personnel group,

you can you can do work on us. And that's when ended up hurting us in the in the AFC Championship. But when it comes to this Cowboys team and you talk about can they survive with a rush defense the way they have, I'm gonna say they they can do damage, but it's gonna be tough because you think about the three mismatches that they have in the NFC, and those are teams that can run the football and specifically do it,

and that's the forty nine ers. You got um Seattle who can run the football as well, and there was one more team out there who can run the football pretty well that might give this team problem problem. So I don't know, if you make a long run with the same type of defense, you gotta get better in

that against the run. And if you're able to get better against the run, the sky's a limit because then you're forcing teams to do what's in your wheelhouse, which is dropped back and pass, and we all know what this defensive line can do to that. But there's three matchups that I think the Cowboys will have trouble with. But if they can get that run defense in order, man, they're gonna be something. They're gonna be special. Like you said,

they're gonna be special. And I just feel like they're on the cusp of that special title being thrown on them. But I wanted, like for you guys when obviously Belichick saw something y'all, y'all displayed that at some point in the season where they's, oh, oh there it is right there, you know, And I think for our team it has been continuous from the beginning of the season from Lennard Fronette.

I was thinking about him just other I'm like, man, all of a sudden, playoff Lenny, like he's dropping off the map they have, you know, they're taking him out of games. But in the first game against us, it kind of showed right there, like, oh, this is the way that you beat these guys, and they never fixed that from last season. And so we're so good in all these other areas, but that's the one area that

you can point to that we're deficient. They've made some changes, they bought in some guys that they think they can the guy that they believe that can help in that regard. They have a linebacker now that they feel like, all right, we're upgrading at linebacker. Maybe we can get more stops. But I believe this is the game rus Green Bay where you have to see these guys round this off and stop to run. So this is this is a long comparison. Okay, it's probably not fair to do it,

but I'll just bring it up. The Colts team that won the Super Bowl for Tony Dungee ended the regular season basically one of the worst, if not like twenty eighth, twenty eighth or more in run defense. I mean they were really really bad. But by the towards you know, mid December, Tony fixed. He got people where they needed to be in the playoffs. They got on the run and they got it there. So looking at the numbers right now, you just see the Cowboys aren't real good. Yeah, Okay,

it's only two other teams with winning records. Um, it's it's Seattle and the Giants, who have a worse runded than you know in terms of giving a rushing yards per game. So you just have to get to the point and in some ways hope your offense can help your defense, because if the offense can jump out the big leads, then other teams you just you know, if you're down ten to twelve points against scot you're gonna have to throw a football. It's gonna go out to ban it run. So I think it's gonna be one

of those things. Where as as they get rounded. You know now that Dak is back and you're gonna get to know a brand back and you're you're getting Zeke backed. Maybe if your offense can getmproved, get better, you can help your defense out, keep them off the field and then limit team's ability to run the ball. So I think it's kind of one of those things we can look at that unit, but it's all got to really

work together here. Yeah, you're you're not lying because when you talk about, you know, this offense getting rounded in the shape and you got Zeke backing and Dak's starting to get that rapport back with his wide receivers. If this team jumps on somebody, and that's the thing that you know in the past, this Cowboys team is you know, everybody said the one negative is they never get up. They never get ready for games. It's always a slow start, you know, and then never right there and in for

the battle. But what Mike McCarthy has been able to do these past two years is these team has been able to start fast. Especially this season, I feel like this offense has been able to jump on teams and get them into that situation where they got to pass the ball and then you fall right into dan Quinn's ends with this pass rush. So I think you're right in to you. If this offense can round it off a little bit and start putting some pressure on these

opposing teams to keep up with the score. Then then you're working with some with the heck of a formula right now, because you're falling right into the mad scientists plans of getting after the quarterback. They're gonna have to help them. Yeah, that's that's really My kind of thing is should you be should you be worried? Yes, you should be worried, But at the same time, there is a way that you can. As Doug Collins was said, your job as a coach is to recognize awards in

your team and cover them up. So it's award, it's award. So how do they go about fixing? I think it's become a team thing. And maybe this is truly where um and he doesn't get the credit if they get it correct. This is where Mike McCarthy comes in as the head coach. They spent and you heard the press conference they spent the bye week where the position coach

has changed. So Aidan Dirty goes in and talks to the offensive lineman Tyler Smith was talking about, so you know, you get, hey, here's view of what the other coach is seeing about what you're doing here. And Robert Prince Malie Cooker of safety for the Cowboys, talking about how Robert Prince spoke to him. Um, you know serious. So that's kind of the cool thing there of all right, hey, look,

we're gonna tell you what we see over here. And I would be worried about especially against Minnesota Dalvin Cook Madison. You know those two guys, they can run the football. I got weapons on the outside to him. They do, they do, so yeah, he could play. He could play. So so it's gonna be it's it's going to be interesting. That's the one concerned heck that I do have about this football team. I think about him right now. That

along with health. I mean, that's just you're gonna be issuing with Jk's coming back here, defensive backfield Hooker's coming back from the hamstring. So health can this offense y'all think this offense can get to that point where it's explosive enough to wear jump on a minute, Wait a minute, did you say explosive? Hold on time consistency and proof? Time consistency a proof. But we have a formula We've had. We have a formula that we were able to get

Cooper Rush to win with. And everybody started to talk about this being the formula that we can use all the way through the season, and it's it's it was. It was impossible to do that because you're gonna come up against some opposition. As you would have said at the beginning of the season, Green Bay's gonna give you some trouble. The Vikings maybe would give you some trouble, are going to give you some trouble because they have

an explosive offense as well. And you can't just can you could put it the onus on your defense every game and say, all right, just hold these guys to ten points and we'll do the rest. How realistic is that? Come on? Now? I mean BC, That's why I ask you that question because obviously there are other teams that's looking under the hood of dan Quinn's defense is saying

where is the chink in the armor? And we've shown from the beginning that this running game is a problem, and also a running game with a mobile quarterback is the problem, all right, and so in our division specifically, we oh, yeah, we got one of those, and that's a problem. That is a problem and it has to be fixed. But when you just like you just said, when you start fast, you come out like we did versus the Bears, and you could tell it was in their mind. We're not gonna have a repeat of what

happened to us against Denver. No, no, no, no, no, nobody's gonna be talking about it. I got the you know that whatever it is, the blueprint, the blueprint, that ain't gonna be no blueprint today. We're gonna come out, We're gonna start a fense. We're gonna put points up. And if all y'all have is the run thing, good, all right, we'll let y'all have that. But at some point, this offense, and that's in pointing to what this offense is,

this running game, stand balanced with this running game. But at some point, even you saw the numbers go up with Dak last week, over the last couple of weeks, you're gonna have to put it on his arm. He's gonna have to throw you out of some situations. I'm sorry, Cowboy Nation has got to be that way. That's football. Hello, that's football, and that's that's okay, that's okay. Hey man, I'm the dude who predicted nine wins. They've got six

of them. Yeah, and you know you're six and two at this point in time, just right now, I would say until further notice, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit around here and be too alarmed about things. Go to Green Bay, handle your business. Get ready for a real tough game going up to Minnesota, a team you beat last year, which backup quarterback. Try to handle your business. That's that's gonna be a tough team. And when you start thinking about it right now, that's the set, that's

the team to look at. Behind Philadelphia, we think about it for the Cowboys. Here, you've got two more games against the top two teams records wise. Right in this in the NFC, you got a Christmas Eve matchup against Philadelphia. You get that here at Jerry World, and then you got to go to Minnesota for a second year in a row. So forget about the Giants. Tool what hey six and two something another another man don't respectus qui rebirth.

I'm worried about Washington, worried about Washing. What the commanders look to command giants, they do what they're doing. Work. Now, you do what you need to do. You'll beat them because you've got more talent. Thing. The giants are just sitting around here and this is a good, good job by Brian Dable. They're gonna play sound as they can and see if you're gonna beat yourself, you don't turn the football over. Cowboys do what they do, they'll be fine.

Danny Dimes still trying to give it to you every chance he can. Man. Oh yeah, sat Quan Barkley had a nice game. But you know what, and the cow they hung in there with the Cowboys and then you saw the Cowboys talent talent one out the Cowboys. It's gonna be the last game of the year. Cowboys should have something to play for it. I expect that let's playoff seating is set. You ain't worried about it? Huh m, I'm really, I'm really, I'm not concerned about the Giants. Okay,

you are the better football team than what. IoT A doubt? What I a doubt. In the past, i'd be worried. And the man Jason Garrett, I'd be come on, man, that there was no reason to bring that man into this discussion. Man, remember the Jets game. We remember we did that podcast. It was all like, it's the Jets, man, it doesn't matter. You can rest, you can rest your tackle. It's all good. That matter that that guy got on

national TV. That's wild. Yeah, I can't believe you to turn this into the that's but when you look so, when you look at it, there's a better coach in the building. Now, that's all it goes. So looking at the season, and that's something I think you've been reluctant to do is look ahead. Yeah, everybody can get it, everybody can get it. But finally you're starting to look ahead and see what this road looks like. Even after the halfway point. And a guy, the guy that said

only nine victories has come three? What is one eighty? You've come alterned all the way around on this team. And so now you're looking at these next nine games, and what are you saying, neuis that I between time, proof and consistency. I can trust that here. I got some trust going on here. I do. I feel I feel good about what they're deal with. Dance coming, Add the wrong thing, add the wrong thing into the gumbo. You can blow it up, Yes, indeed you can blow

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not here taking slugs. You know you're passing out some slugs went like I went on Bryant gubble on it. He knocked out all of your holiday shopping during back to back days of Market. Here we go, Let me hear what you guy, Brian Gumble voice Billy Joel Stephen Knicks. Get this guy off the bike right now? They go we doing Oh, everybody catching them Today Bernie Goldberg went down to Dallas and talk to Jerry Jones. M that's

your man, dude. I love Brian Gumble, love us. One of the smartest, one of the smartest interviewers I've ever been, ever been around. Brian Gumble is really good. Okay, Um, this is a players not trought to you by Tostito's Berry Church. He's playing Cowboys. Got heck Harrison here, I am newly scrubs. Our guy, Danny mccraie is on assignment. So here. The Cowboys six and two tried to make a trade for Brandon Cooks. Didn't work out. Um tried to make a move for another player and get slipping

my head Crispy who was the other player. Todd Archer wrote about it the other the Cowboys for another receiver. UM could not get it done, but so they had their eyes to the two guys Cooks and Judy. Right, yes, Jerry Judy, Jerry Judy, My boy, would I would have been I wouldn't be mad at that one. That was reported by ESPN affiliate. Yeah, so not by the Cowboys, right right, Todd Archer. Tard Archer had that story. Tod Archer had that story. So so. Um so those were

two names that were out there. So there's an acknowledgement by management. Okay, we would like to we'd like to improve a receiver spot. It didn't happen. So now it's Odell Beckham Junior. I don't know if it's been online dot com, but anyway, one's these odds makers has Odell Beckham Junior's landing spot as the Dallas Cowboys. So that's the money Vegas right now. You want to say where Elda Beckham Junior goes, it's here. Jerry Jones on his

radio show today here saying glowing things about him. Mike McCarthy, yes, say to press comms. Nice thing to say about it. Now you got Michael Parsons on Twitter recruit them, saying, come on, let's do that. I don't know the like that though. I don't know if you are. You're play in that locker room and you got one of your leaders out there talking about, hey, oh b J, we need you over here, come through. If you were a wide receiver in that in that room. That's not that's there.

Now You're like, hold on, man, Like so what you said, you're gonna bring this guy in? Now, I'm glad. I'm glad you said it because I'm just that's just how I think, because I'm like, hold on, man, tell me, I'm not doing my job. Imagine that. Right you're sitting there. Obviously these guys are tuned into their Twitter and they see Micah saying, amen, come on, come on with us. Man O b J talked to me, let's do this,

let's do that. Do you want to know what he responded, and ted Odell Beckham Junior, l Ol, she you tell me? You know all the fam on my daddy side down there. I'm trying to win wherell go? That's what he tweeted back. Man, Look, I'm gonna say it like this, like if you were in that wide receiver. Look all right, y'all watch first forty eight in Memphis. That's the best one. If first forty eighth Memphis, far Hey, when they brought the Wendy's in the room, somebody was snitching that. Lord tell you

about it. I mean, he gonna tell you who was there? And who wasn't there. That's an indictment on the wide receiver room. Now, if Michael came out and said CDA man, hey, we're rocking with CD. He go as he go, we go, Now, that to me is giving confidence to the group. But if I'm going out and I'm not saying that Oldell Beckham can't help them. We know he's coming back from a major injury, we know all these other things. When

is he gonna be ready? We don't know. I mean, it's a whole bunch of hurdles that you're gonna have to go through. But at the same time, like that is an indictment on that room. These guys in pregn like you can fool everybody else, but the guys is out there on the field that's practicing with you, they know what's going on. Wait wait, wait, though management already

trying out here trying to get guys. So is it an indictment as they already said the people management though, like you talk about your home teammates, that's something you keep if you go. If you really want Oldell to be here, you text the man. You hit him up in his DMS on something private like hey, hey, we need your diet. You don't gonna put it all on blast like because think about it all right, he said he wanted v Miller defense that CD he gonna get

his bad what's his name on the gallop? He got his back. If you know what Brown, you're sitting there like, man, I'm having one of my best seasons so far, and if you're your guys, you're taking my snaps. The culture changer. That's gotta be hard on rooky hard. You see the picture they have it odell right here. Wow, there's anybody look the picture. Look at the picture they got him. Got it up. Now you got your thing up on? Okay, right there, now you see right there, see the picture

see this picture on twitter? Back number three, right, don't don't the cowboys having number three? They just giving the jersey. They're gonna take av jersey away like that. I just to be out of I was never a fan of that. That we can't show because he's a free agent. Um that's kind of interesting. Man, get a guy another number,

give him. You can't get thirteen. We know that. That's you know, one of the that's like my I say, hey, man, you know if I'm playing safety back then Earl Thomas were not we gotta get Earl Thomas in here, man, you know we can make our defense that much. Bro. I'm sitting right here like, don't no, at least don't put me on blast like that. Jay Letobard over the eating this series like, yeah, okay, you aren't worry about what you got. Jis right about that to get over

and get the ball. Man. Come on, man, he just finally get activated now he cared about it, feeling he was two seconds away from wavering that one. Let's go boys, bringing on the jack back from Junior. That's what he gonna be. It's not gonna go ahead that that fitted Capa's gonna be the hype man for coming out of there. He's gonna have that slit the service follow the twenty two dollars. He will have the service gear though, he will have my boy Christmas Gibson, Yeah cold, what's his

come take this eighteen? Look go down Beckham Junior, by the way, and I thought it was a great point that Mickey made on his show Mix Shots make He's back the way. He said, look the guys talking about I want to go somewhere for you know, four years. He just doesn't want a prove it contract. Want to get that brand right. He wants a multi year deal. They're gonna pay for that. How can that? It's not gonna happen. How can that? J Jerry's gonna have to

do the ultimate sales job to just can't. Hey, look, we love you, you just want the ring. We feel like we're positioned to get another ring. Our best player, Michael Parsons wants you. Dak Prescott will go find you, Um, come down here, help us chase his ring. You already got one in La. Get one of Dallas. You know what it is, the cowboys name. You do it here. You know everybody's gonna love you and Neil Jerry like you know, I'm gonna take care of it back. That's

what Jerry can do. They can sell that, he can sell that, but realistically you can't sell You can't pay him because you got too many other people to paying, way too many and all that pressure that. I mean, you heard the interview this morning on one to five three. I mean that one and this guy to acquiesce just

because of those things that you're talking about. You know, well, hey, it's Dallas man went to take care of you a little hitting, hitting nudge nudge if you, oh, Dell beckham Man, you're like, look, I got a Super Bowl rig, you know. And for him the four year contract, I don't know. Look it's for me, it's gonna be. Is the knee healthy?

What does he look like coming out of it? Because man, you've seen in basketball, man, these guys come in and they're like specialty guys, like they're just three point shoes is all they do. And at this point, with the knee injuries and all that, he's starting to shape up and look like one of those specialty guys. Now, okay, just listen to what you said. I let him marinate

for a few seconds. What's wrong with that? If if he's out there with Cede Lamb and Michael Gallup and you just tell me the specialty guy, is that a bad thing? Especially if you've got but if you've got Pollard and that is that about three possessive receivers. I mean, you got Cede Lamb who can do it. Then you've got Michael Gallup, Noah Brown and OJ or not OJ. We're gonna be your possession of That's it. That's all you got. I mean, I said, he came in at

the end of the last year. He came into the end of the last season after the way that he looked for the Browns, and I mean, come on, the quarterback. The whole situation was a business, was a mess. But he came into the situation with the Rams and he helped them. Not as though it wasn't like they didn't already have Cooper Cup over there doing his thing having a phenomenal season. I think where we are right now without wide receiver group, we're trying to find out do

we even have an alpha where there? Does this smell like Dion Sanders a little bit? When Prime had was a free agent, went and signed for San Francisco, helped them win Super Bowl twenty nine. Specialty next year comes back, signs with the Cowboys, it went Super Bowl thirty. Is this what we're talking about here? That play though Prime was in his prime, that's two als later. As I said, okay, but you're not asking him like they said, Prime, we need you to come out here man in the corner,

do younything. You don't have to have a We don't need you to be Odell reach. You don't have to do that here, you've got some other guys. What you're saying, we just add a little bit more in the mix. So if I got those three guys and routes, that's something to think about it. If you're defense, think about I'm not I'm I'm not now I'm also if it's me. First off, if it's me, I'm not doing it. Just say to me, I'm not doing what what? What did you? Wait a minute? What are we doing now? I'm not

doing it? To tell you right now, I'm a church now we're not doing it. You're not doing it. We're not doing are Okay? I can't. I don't want to pay them. I don't want to pay the money. That's the only reason. It's it's the money, not the player, dude. The player wants money. Okay. But what I'm saying, okay, let me finish. Look, I think we can't. We can't separate the two because this he is told. He's right here letting you know. I want to be paid. So

I don't really, I don't get to separated. I don't get to like when Barry's when the Cowboys came and you would say, Barry you come back, and the slow price and no, you don't get all that. You got to get me the bag, and you get me no bag, no me. This man wants back. So if he wants bag, I'm not giving it to because I gotta pay a whole bunch of other people. That's where I'm sitting at here. Maybe somebody else out there is gonna give this man to kind of deal. But if we did had a bread,

you would give it to him. If but you don't. So is he Is he good enough wide receiver to come in here and make a difference in your opinion? I believe, I believe. Well, I'll say this, Kelly Moore better get up in here and draw something with all these three guys if you got him. Otherwise he don't need to be here. I just I'm still not seeing him being like Odell from the Atlas, even the same or even the same La Rams days. I'm not Michael Michael Gallup is not Michael Gallup right now, That's what

I say. You don't have two of them out there. You basically trying to get the best you know, trying to get seventy percent. Okay, you try to get one hundred percent of that seventy So hey, man, I got one guy one hundred percent, CD Lamb, I got two guys at seventy percent. You know what I mean? How do you want it? So? I didn't want it? There? Man, see it guy that's really going at it's at seventy percent? Man,

can I get a hundred percenty and seventy? I think you're gonna look around the room and see a guy that I'll give y'all seventy percent cutting Louis by Man man because because he don't want him, no way, he don't want I don't want him, no way. I'm I'm just saying, man, Oh, I mean Cli Clarics, Hill Star Telegram did a good, real job. I'll all say, hey, look, you're not getting Michael Gallup that you think you're gonna get. It's gonna take a year. And so far he's been correct.

Michael's had some some two moments, but he's not who he was. It's gonna take you a minnie. And if you get Odell Beckham Junior here, you know you can go basically get the same thing with Gallup. Okay, you're not getting one hundred percent, but if I have CD Lamb and two dudes at seventy percent. If I got an A and two sees, can I get out here make it a B? Yeah? No, man, that's not You

can't graduate with that from grasscoot. Did somebody say one plus one three, But that's not that's what's the press. We didn't gonna be dealing with the lone of the reality of that. We got a playoff game, playoff games to win. And look, let's how about this. Dak scored forty two points. The offense scored forty two points last week, two three weeks, two weeks ago, all right, and that's what tight end SAIDs Guinea Michael Gallup involved early and finding CD in those soft zone areas. And we did

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Okay um. Speaking of ol Beckham Junior possibly hooking up with Kelly Moore the offensive coority, what is your trust level if you give Kellen Moore a piece like Odell Beckham Junior to go with everything that he's dealing with right now? As the Cowboys are a six and two football team, there are only the other six and two football teams right now in the Nation Football League Buffalo, Kansas City and the Giants. He got the Minnesota seventy one and he got the Eagles at eight. No. Right now, man,

I am. What I'm starting to recognize is the re evolution of the running back position. And I believe that Kellen Moore, if he's smart, he continues to get behind this running game Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott and just do everything based off of that. I think the way that Dak is playing, showing you that he's willing to play,

that's that's smart football. We were just we did all this talking about the defense, and I think you have a defense that if you protect them and don't hang them out to dry, and you play smart football on offense that they can be your best friend and y'all can work in concert together. Yeah, what's the how's the process work? Again? What are the three things? Some trust? Trust? And trust requires three things, time proof and consistent. And you know what, I'm not gonna lie. I think you

know it's killing has earned that with me. Um. You know, I feel like, you know this guy, he he's evolved his play calling duties. I feel like last year and the years before he was playing Madden out there just trying to you know, get get as many points as possible, you know, make the fans cheer and all that good stuff.

But we've seen this year. You know, without Dak Prescott for those five games, he was able to make a game plan to where Taylor fit the guys on that offense, and he was able to get the most out of him. So even if you threw in a you know, a wild card like Odell Beckham in there, I think he'll still stick to the formula. He'll have a couple of wrinkles for Odell here and there, but he won't go crazy with it. And I think he's shown to me,

at least that he's able to trust the process. He leans on his strengths, which are the defense in the run game, and he'll throw in a few creative wrinkles here and there to get the job done. So I trust him. I trust him what he'll do. I don't want him here, but I trust him. With him Kellen Moore at this pace, a lot of seasons ago, at this pace, man is working himself into a job as a head coach in this league. Come on, now, what

is going on? You're raiding the cupboards on everybody, Church Church, What have you seen? He was a finalist but for that Miami job. Okay, so so it's not He's not like he hasn't been doing interviews last year, a bunch interviews. If you had the number one offense last year like they did, and then you go through the issues you had this year. Got to go Cooper rush for five games, Gotta keep the thing and flow. Here's Tony Polla breaking

him out here. I mean, and now if you throw in Ley's say, you're throwing an Odell Beckham junior, and you find a way to mix all these parts in here, it's basically it's a lot of difference. It's a different team. Back with the whole thumb issue. The way they're hiring people today. If Frank Wright can get a job, Brandon Stanley can get a job. You want to tell me that Kelly Moore doesn't fit the profile of who they're hiring.

He definitely fits the profile. But let me ask you, just like, no disrespect, no disrespect to you know, Kell, but can you see him being a leader of men like you see him gallivanting the troops getting them ready to go out there each and every Sunday? Jack Taylor, who was a quarterback coach, didn't call play? Should he be it there? No, That's what I'm saying. And it's it's just, you know, he's an offensive genie. He can get things done offense. But Kenny Gallen that you can

he leave those guys each every sunday. If if Zach Taylor Cincinnati can get a job. So it's again, who are the kind of people they're hiring? A man in Miami, you know, soul brother? Did he did? He look like

you know? But he's this man. Here's the thing, here's the thing what we're seeing now from McDaniel and that's his name, and Miami Maniel hell of of of personality like he's able to show that, and I don't think I don't and I don't know him personally, so I don't know if Kelly, what his temperament is, what type of personality that he has. But that's what it's to me. You have to have one of those if you're going to be one of the hacker's personality in Denver, he's

got one. Yeah, well, Dan Campbell's personality. Yeah, I mean, okay,

well but no, no, but he's really just riveting, ain't he? No? No, no, But if we don't know that about him, you're asking the question about him being the leader of men based off of what you know about him right now, and that personality that doesn't match what you know is a head coach in the National Football What I'm telling you is, guys, you're you're saying that, but what do we see Kevin O'Connell vikings koc He fits this mold of who they're

hiring in this league. To Nikki Sirianniot that his name, Nicky, Tony, whatever it is, he is right there with what they're hiring in this league. And that's what I'm basing it, merely off what I might see parcels the great slider words. All I can go by is what I see. And if Kellen Moore continues to put this type of offense that is winning football games out here, Kellen Moore is the kind of person that they are hiring. I can

see that. I just don't know my time playing with him and seeing him now, I'm he just he doesn't seem like a cat that's gonna be out there making sure this team is ready to go, like when you're talking about being over the offensive course, but over the entire team. Okay, but's gonna be looking like so, so Nick, are we doing here? Coach? So the Eagles coach was Frank Reich's offensive coordinated. He didn't call any plays. Nobody

knew who this guy was. He got the job. Look at him now, Tomasirianni, Sirianni, Zach Taylor, he was just but's quirks. He's still like his personal Look. But I'm going back into you're saying, can you see this guy doing it? I'm just telling you you look at these dudes that they're hiring, the Zach Taylor's of the world, the Brandon Stayleys of the world. Man, he can this guy can be presented what he finished. He finished second to the coach post. You could be a coach me.

I mean Jeff sold out Kevin O'Connell n talking about I'm just saying, you know what, man, I'm just saying, I just I know this. This man is there's they're going is going to be in the mix for interviews again. He will be because like you said, he fits, that fits the mold of what they're hiring. Eric being to me, I'm praying for you. Yeah, he does not fit the mold for you. Yess cold, you just tell me where. Tell me where, Liar, No, I'm not looking for one.

All I'm saying is that that the mold that you're talking about is I'm with Barrier on that does Can he lead a team? Will he fit that McCarthy may need too? Can he hold cats accountable? Can he go out there? But you mess this, I just don't see that having in it. I see what I'm saying. You don't. Okay, come out, my man. McCarthy might need to, he might need two new coordinators. And that's what I'm saying. Well, everybody getting about it hating Jimmy Johnson, Man had Jimmy

I mean this. When you win, you win. People want your folks, man, people want your folks. All right, our time is up. Heck ma Harrison Man, appreciate you. Barry Church. This is the Players Boys. I'm back at three o'clock right here or Dallas Cowboys dot Com with the media mask. Tune in goodbye. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clock.

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