The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's Lane broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and Newi Scrugs plas lines with you here on an Omega Sci Fi Founder's day. Throw them hooks up, baby, throw the hooks up. Eric Eagleton and I the the We are the Emmy Award winning hosts on these Dallas Cowboys podcast Shout out
to you. I see you throw it into Emmy and there I see you talk about I love it. Tommy Dog step back, step back from the camera. Let us see the Tommy dog man start starting to start to beat up. Let us see it. Well, well, young brothers, young brothers, No, no, we can't. We can't do that. We don't want to get that. We don't want to get the folks hyped up like that. But no, no, I appreciate that. I appreciate them. You're the You needed some cool that over there, man, that's all you need,
no shit, And you can story. I got a story on that. I got a story on that. So um. By the way, this is the Players, not by hotels dot Com. I'm knew. We Scrudge joined by former Dallas Cowboys players Bury Church and Danny mccraig. So, while I was at the University of North Carolina at Pembroke, and you know, we were working on a step show. We were working on a step show and I stepped on too many people and they just told me to slide on out the wet and definitely me being my boy,
got to let beat out here. Yeah, me, me, me being the ingenious one that I am. I was the guy who booked the shows. I was I was smart brother. So I was the guy that took care of money and took care all the stuff that the venues got everything take care of them. So that was my role in the fraternity. But the step show, that hopping, that was that was not me. My manna, I am not gonna sit at the live front. I'm that's one of the main Ain't that one of the main things? Like
the main feature? Yeah show, Ain't that the oh look you gotta do Thetomic dog you got that show? Okay? The step show is a whole different level of coordination then you just getting out here by yourself, you know, throwing up the hooks, hopping through your leg and go ahead, spinning around doing the Atomic Dog. And that's a whole different thing like what you seen. I don't know if you've ever seen the video of Jabrill Peppers was the
University of Michigan. They were on a break, he was waiting on a punt, they were playing the Atomic Dog, and he was out there dancing. That's a whole different thing from you trying to go ahead and line up and do a step show, okay, because that's coordination, that's being able to you know, camp steps and do the whole thing, which I ain't gonna sit up here in front tier. That's not me. So what we're doing a fraternity, Johnny, is we highlight our special skills. What do you bring
to Omega. I was a smart brother. I took care of vine. I took care of money when we may shoot it. The fraternity was in the black, we may shoot the fraternity was named the sixth district chapter the year and we got money for the fraternity. We were also a scholarship winner here. So that's how we took care of ourselves in Omega. Yes we did smart. Yes, I thought about. I thought the story is about to go something like. Yeah, man, look back in the day when I used to do it, when I used to
do atomic whatever, I messed around tom acl so I retired. Yeah, I thought for that atomic dog type. See, here's the thing. Here's the thing about lie. You can't lie in the frat because there's gonna be somebody down the way who's gonna check your story. So I no, no, you might even tell the truth because I mean, he'll get out there on you. Boy. Somebody said, there, pull your car real quick. No, no, no, So I'll tell you the
truth now. I'll tell you that. One of the best stories is the day I met Shaquille O'Neil for the first time and they sitting down interview. He was with the Lakers and I was working in Los Angeles. So John Black, who ran the Lakers PR he gave everybody about I don't know, maybe five six minutes Shaq and I go over because Shaq wants to keep talking to me because I had on my Megan Sci Fi necklace
and people saw us talk. Afterwards, we dat we didn't and people like I didn't know you knew Shaquille O'Neil. I said, the first time we ever got to sit down and talk to each other, and they're like really, I said, yeah, we have a little secret ball there. And then from then, Shaquille O'Neal always, I mean, Shaquille
always took care of me. How I got my job in TV at NBC was through a live shot that I ended up doing in Santa Barbara at Lake his training camera, Shack hid behind a tree, did the atomic dog and then eventually commenced to doing a live shot with me as he snuck up on me and tackled me. But that is my guy right there. I tell people, Man, he can't say nothing bad about Shaquille and Will. That's a good brother right there. He was a good freshman person.
He was a good person period. I remember I was dating or a girl at the time in Los Angeles said she was teaching the kid who was terminal and he wouldn't do his work. And I told him, I said, And he was a big Laker fan. I said, look, get your graves up for this semester. I will get you to a Lakers game and I will have Shaquille O'Neill sign a basketball feed and the kid did the work.
I got him to pass to the game, got him behind the scenes, and Shack before he went out on the court, stopped and signed the ball for that kid. And you should have seen the tears in that kid's eyes. And I can't tell you. And you guys in football do it totally differently. No, guys, you know, fans don't get around you before a game. But these basketball players just people. All the time. There was somebody form a maker,
wish kid. There was always somebody there trying to meet Shaquille on there before a game and Shock and I give his uncle a whole lot of credit. Man. They always took care of people. And the security person too. Um, they always took care of people. Man. I can't say enough for Shaquille on him man, even he I hope you don't know. I hope you don't know you'd be able hating No LSU like you do on this radio show then, because I think that the attitude might change
a little bit. Bro. You can't. You can't be hey Shock as my guy and then be overle to hayting on the hating on the university. That just that that don't go together and don't make no sense no especially, and you do a lot of hating on the basketball team. That's even worse goodness basketball? Hey, hey, hey, would I do or was my guy Dale Brown? Love Dale Brown? This new cheating coach? Come on, now, you know your coach I here? Am I am? I lying? Am I lying?
And your coach coaches on tape saying I made him a strong a offer. Your listen, Louie, I didn't. I didn't play basketball. I'm confused on maybe maybe you may be confused me with another Danny, like Danny Green or something. I played football number one and you know these days, no no, I brought LSU basketball up. As when Shaq was there, you'd be hating on the team. You're not specifically just the coaching. Anytime something bad over on with LSU, you you ready to hop on the show and talk
bad about it. So I'm just saying, bro, That's all I'm saying. And church and church and church and church. You could be my witness. Knew he is that guy because I would two the messages. The game wasn't even over with Patrick Peterson who went to LSU and knew he couldn't wait to get on that and say, oh Patrick Peterson just gave up the game. When the touchdown, I gonna check the score the Cardinals that won the game. He's just ready to talk about fact. I'm talking about fact. Yeah,
he's a fact that ain't no fact. They didn't even lose. You couldn't wait if I was, If I was ain't hated, I was at hater. I just said, it's something about that article that came out about Darius. Guys and eds want to LSU yesterday. Did I say anything about that? How people going after the coach and they're going after the problem. Did I say anything about the ansterd You just did you? If I want to hate, I would have said, like, if I really really I gave you said,
I gotta bring this up. Man, I'm not gonna hurt Danny on Monday like that. I'm not gonna do that. Today we talked about We talked about this already were listening. We talked about this. Guys, if he if he put his hands on the woman, he should be in jail. We talked, I don't have no problem with that. You know, as far as I was winning national championships and all that, you know, that's a little different when you got your own personal issues outside or whatever, and you you're making
them type of mistakes. Yeah, that's on you. But like I said, you couldn't wait to hate on Pat Pete even send me another video on the day of Pat Pete. You know, in the whole different game and a whole different game they weren't playing. It was about Kobe, I said, I've sent a video of Kobe Easley to that I know. Yeah, but who beat him on the touchdown that when he was in coverage? I don't know. I don't know that code they were playing, what coverage? No coverage they were
playing Many Church? What the code? Beach code? Beasley did not kiss the touch that? Like, man, I didn't know what the coverage was. Man, I didn't know. I didn't know. Okay, I don't know. Okay, okay, can you tell me what that coverage was? Can you tell me what the coverage? It's It's hard for me to hate on Penbrooke. You know, I don't have much to say. I got. It's a little blow man as a low blow man. You ain't the water like that. Man. You want to go after
Division two school. If you want to go after Division two school, that's fine. That's fine, free games, free games, coree games, everybody, all is fair, all this fan, all this fan. I mean you you dives to this whole LSU thing. I'm sitting talking about wagon side Fine and Shaquille O'Neill, and you dive on Shaquie Lsu. It's literally perfect goal, fideways Vendetta and I mean this is incredible, man, It's incredible. Man, all these all these issues you're bringing
up here. Man, you sound like the president. Man, you are deep seated. Man, you don't kid you go he it's like it's feel like it's rig No. Listen, listen if anybody sound like the president as you won't been talking about fact. This is fact and it ain't fact. That didn't happen. You've been just making up stuff. The game ain't even over. Are you gonna say, fat, I that's a fact. That ain't a fact. That we watched
the game, the Cardinals won. How How can Patrick Peterson give up a game when it touchdown and they won the game? I'm confused on how that how that is possible? But if you you could possibly explain that to me, let me know, please, please tell me how you give up a game when it touchdown and you win the game. You know what, I did not believe in Kyler Murray. I didn't think Ayler Murray would get it done. I didn't I didn't know Kyler Murray was gonna go out
there save bacon for everybody. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. So so it's not a fact. So it's not a fact then, right, So it's it's just proven it. It was an alternative fact at the time. Yes, it was, okay, President, it was about that's Kelly and Conway for you right there. President. You don't know how to admit that he was wrong. Look at I learned from you. I just sent out a tweet today about de Hook catching that pass and how Kyler deal everybody's baking.
So I was happy about them. I was truly happy. Okay, by the way, we might as well dive into the Cowboys here, because this is one of the topics I've heard on some other cowboy podcasts and it brought me
back to you Church. I now he questioned whether, yes, whether or not Andy Dalton is going to have a short leash hers A couple of podcasters today talk about it was it was Ambergarcia and Nick and David helmon Um could could if Andy Dalton doesn't have a good game, could he be done after one game and replaced by by Grett Gilbert. So I'm gonna ask you too, and I'll start with you Church. How far is the leash for Andy Dalton in your opinion as he makes his
return to the lineup against the Vikings on Sunday. But it's gotta be short. It's gotta be extremely short, man. I mean, look, in the words of legendary Booby Miles. Man, if you want to win, let Booby spin. If you want to win, let Gilbert spin. I mean, look this, this, this momentum, this wave he's riding right now. It's too strong. You can't. You can't deny the man. You can't deny then eye test. Look Andy Dalton. I thought coming in
that he would be he would be the savior. I thought, you know, hey, we're good, We're in Andy Dalton's hands. But you know, after watching what Gilbert did, what he displayed on that last Sunday, you know I got a guy. I gotta ride with him. He elevated his teammates, he made this offense look good. I gotta go with Gilbert on this one. Andy Dalton, he said he's gonna get the start. They say he's get to start. He's got
to be on a short leash. I mean, he's got him go out there and they got to be drive after drive after drive, just looking. He just got to look the part. But right now, I still ride with my boy double g Okay, Church, you are your own administration over here, right because let me let me, let me get let me go back, let me go back a couple of weeks for you. Right after Andy don't uh sealed the game when he came in. After that, after that went down, I specifically remember you saying Andy
don't ball when he got in the game. He got out there and should us what he can do, and if and if and if Gilbert or somebody else playing, then I'm not I'm not saying they gonna win NFC. But if Andy Don't get out there and does it, does what he did against whatever, then then I'm going with them. And then the next week you see you see uh, you see one guy go in and look like complete, you know, like you know, deering the headlights, and then Gilbert come talking about the yeah talk about
talking about you talking about a wave. This is a way. That's the shortest wave I've ever seen in my life. You can't serve that way. Wave gotta start, A wave gotta start somewhere, you know what I'm saying. Some some type of reaction had to happen in the waves started. This is just the beginning of it. Don't going on, don't waste, don't waste no more money as a cowboy.
Oh listen, they paid Andy Dalton to be the backup quarterback, all right, give the man a shot to be the backup quarterback at the beginning of the They No, they didn't. He didn't make it a whole game. His offensive lot let him getting smacked out of the smacked out of the game, and didn't even go get him back here. And nobody let him get his back. He ran out the pocket on his own, on his own. He got smack. Andy Donalton has not had a fair shot to do
the same thing. And that one game that you over talking about Google did listen, No, no, no, no stars, no doins. I want you to listen to me. All right, you lost again last night, all right, so something is wrong with your powers. I'm telling you here. We got your powers. Focus start off. Your powers are off. Andy Dalton should not have a short event, very short leash, because what happens is all of a sudden, he plays bad. One game you put Gilbert, then he goes to play bad.
What do you do? Then you just go back to Andy Dog? You keep flip flopping. That's a horrible rest of the Gilbert who said Gilbert's playing bad. Gilbert's coming in here, He's going up. They need an okay game, bro, He had one okay game and they lost. They lost, Church Church, they lost. Did you forget they lost? They didn't win, They didn't win. You got like this, dude,
brought us back and won us the game. They against the number one team and get the number one team in the NFL against the number one team in the NFL. They lost. They lost a pick. What do you mean he lost? He got through his hands to the face. That should have been we all saw that. We all saw it. It should have been hand to the face. That's the only reason they went down like that. They got rob what we all what we all saw was them lose. Andy Dog should not have a very short least.
He should have a fair shot to go out there and get this team rolling, because that's what they brought him in here to do. You will give you will give them half a game to go out there and say that he doesn't look good enough to play, and when when game don't make no sense. He had Arizona, he had Washington had enough sample size. We've seen what he can do. We've seen what he can do. Now is Gilbert's turn. Is Gilbert's turned to ride? This way,
You're gonna get Gilbert put out the league riding. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get Gilbert a second contract. That's what's going on. First off, mccrai is right, McCray is right. There we go, Danny. Here's another thing I would say, if you know, if you're Gilbert, the best thing for you is to not play, to let the crowd of people like Burry Church and other people be excited and hope to see you. Then they put you, wrap you up, and then you just sign yourself a nice little contract
for multi years. That's the best thing that Seish selfishness knew he talked about. That's a selfishness, man, That's that's that's that mentality. First you talk about we need to give up and get these these high draft picks. Now, you talking about Gilbert need to just relax. It's because you don't want to see Double G take this team to success. Man, we all know what's gonna happen if if Double G get there behind the center, he's gonna lead him to success. And I'm telling ya, I'm telling
they need to ride with Gilbert. Hold on, church, Church, Okay, Okay, I got I got an example for your church. Let's say you go out there and you're playing in a game, right and you and you got two picks in the first half and were blowing them out. Do you want to go back in for a second half or you want to leave on a good note with them two picks for that film session on Monday. Well, we ain't
talking about me right now, exactly. You want to leave out that good feeling, just like he said, Gilbert should leave out with a good feelings so he can get paid next year. That's that's exactly what's going on. Selfishness. Selfishness when you when we were talking about a corner, the quarterback is a different position and you gotta at the quarterback in the safety. That's that's a different that's a different beast all in its own, that's a different beast,
quarterback different. They got to ride with my boy Gilbert. And I go back to you, Danny. I go back to this situation where when we first saw Gilbert play. He came in off the bench for McCord and that BCS championship game against Alabama and Texas at that point in time was getting taken to the woodshed. Gilbert gave them a spark. They ended up losing, but he kind of helped make it close, and then Alabama pulled away and everyone spoke about, hey man, we got Garrett Gilbert
come here. This guy's a real deal. This guy's gonna be so good at Texas. I mean you just wait, man, Garrett Gilbert's gonna be the next Vince Young and next McCoy's gonna take us back to the championship. And you know what he did, nothing ended up transferring and going to a SMU. So sometimes you may want to leave it. Just leave him on that high note, man, Okay, It's like an episode of a good show. You know, at the end, you're like, oh man, I wanted to see
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Cowboys players, Danny mccraig and Barry Church. Today, on his one oh five three the Fan radio show, owner Jerry Jones came out and said that the Dallas Cowboys coaches and staff are staying at the Omni Hotel, that they're kind of doing their own self quarantine to try and take care of the players. Mccraig, your thoughts on the
coaches and staff making that move. I think it's smart if you look outside of the builder you see here in Texas in a lot of other places, the cases on a rise, and you seeing it effect a lot of teams around the league games having to be counsel. So I think it's time to go to extreme measures and see see every you know, try everything you can do to stop this thing from spreading and affecting your team, you know, and the health of your players. So I
think it's smart. Uh, you know, I wish we could have done it earlier, but I mean sometimes it's just not realistic, especially when you've got so many guys in the NFL. But I'm glad we're doing it now. Yeah, I think it's an extremely smart move. I mean, like mccraize said, we've seen how it can affect a team and how it can do into a team down, I mean, losing people, and we've already lost enough all pros and
we've already lost enough players as is. With them doing this, hopefully, you know, if if it's spreading were to happen, it can be contained. So I think it's a smart idea and hopefully going forward, more teams adapt the same type of protocol. All right, So the Cowboys trying to make sure they do their part. Also, Jerry Jones was very very revealing where he says, at his age, he treats
every person like they have COVID. So Jerry's trying to make sure that he stays safe in this environment, and obviously all you have to do is is listen to the folks who are involved in infectious diseases. And they've said, they said all summer long, it's gonna get bad in the wintertime, and it has in some of the cases that we've seen, especially up north. It's sad, man, it is sad. So everyone do what you can, wear of
asking and be as safe as you possibly can. I know I've tried to be a little bit better, even just just last week, as I'm going places and doing some more things here. I had to go up to a drive through today and I just put on a mask, even though I was to drive through with the bank teller. Just just trying to do my part here. Last night, the Minnesota Vikings ended up winning over the Chicago Berries on the road. Minnesota is going to host the Cowboys
on Sunday. It was a nineteen thirteen game. Minnesota was favored by three and a half points. Danny McCrae, you got it right. You picked up Minnesota to win twenty four seventeen. I had Minnesota winning. Uh Nostredamins aka Barry Church has Chicago winning twenty four seventeen, and I specifically remember Church talking about his leaf and Nick Foles and nick Foles line, it's fifteen to twenty six for one hundred and six yards and a dick and oh, by the way, they knocked that kid out. He left on
the stretch on the car. So if I'm Gilbert, if I'm Gilbert, I did not want Church picking me as the guy. There we go. Man, Look, look I've been wrong. I've been wrong about quarterbacks in the past, so you know, you know he didn't have my back on this one. He didn't have my back on this one. But it's all right because look, the majority of my powers. Look, I was focused, as the man J G used to say, focus on the task at hand, And I was focusing on the task at hand, which is being the Cowboys
winning the NFCS. You know, the Bears, they let me down. But you know, everything's gonna be right because we're focused on the task at hand. So so so no other picks that you make this year matter. Only the only the Cowboys pick matter. So you shouldn't pick number teams because all your powers are going to the Cowboys. No, no, no, I ain't say that. I ain't say that. I'm just saying the majority that my buyers are going to the Cowboys,
and that's what's gonna happen. You see, it's already going there, and it's going that direction. The snowballs in that direction. Why because we're going to the playoffs. That's why I'm saying where the snowfall started? Where did it start? It started in Philly. It started in Philly. With a loss in Philly, Pittsburgh offensively picked up, and now we're just gonna get these dubs rolling. That's that's exactly. Okay, that's
what happened. That's all right, Okay, okay, it's all right, Church, since you want to roll right now, let's dive in the linebacker Shaan Lee and the possibility of Sean Lee getting some more snaps. He's coming off injury, so I don't know, I don't know if they've got don't want to pitch count at all right now, but your thoughts on maybe seeing Sean Lee a little bit more in
Minnesota against Kirk Cousins in that Vikings offense. Man, this one, this, this one, this was a tough one because you know Sean he brings so much to table as far as Lee your ship. But I mean, he's coming off an injury where he missed what I believe six weeks Ye had some type of sports hernia injury. And you know, I don't know how well he can run out there.
So but going against Minnesota, I mean, we're gonna need somebody that's that's informative when it comes to the run defense, that can go in there and plug gaps and fix things when people are messed up, Like if a defender, if a defensive tackle, you know him hit the wrong gap or something. He's the type of guy that can fix that just because of his knowledge of the game. So for me, you know, I wouldn't have a problem with him going in there and still in a few
snaps from Jalen Smith. I would leave vander Eschen there because he seems to be getting on a role here, But for me, I wouldn't mind him taking a couple of snaps. Yeah, I don't know. I don't I'm not really sure where Sean Lee kind of fits in in this defense, or if if Nolan could come up with some packages to get him a little bit more playing time.
We do know that Minnesota's gonna come here and try to run the ball, but they also run it out of they running out of eleven and they run it out of twil they're running out of twenty two, so it'll be a run from a lot of different personnel, so they'll have to find a way to get him in. I want to see him get at, you know, a little bit more playing time, but I don't know if I would take it away from Jalen, who can make some players rushing the passer, you know, and stopping those screens.
And like you said, vander esh is playing a little bit better as it gets more comfortable coming off the injury. So you know, it's hard for me to say, you know, mess up the rhythm that these guys are starting to get in. This is a week where linebackers, you're gonna need to really be solid the way they play because you know, the Vikings are gonna try and run the
ball with Dalvin Cook, who's an excellent running back. And then what I saw a lot of last night was how they were taking their tight ends and having the tight ends chip and then rolling them out there and they were catching passes. So Kyle Rudolph had a nice game. Er Smith was out of the game, so I don't know, I Er Smith is gonna be able to will he be playing against the Cowboys bec there's another guy who who's also can you lay down a chip, get out
there and coverage? So it's gonna be it's gonna be a challenge for these Cowboys linebackers because of the way they like to play football here. So whether they're trying to the tight ends are trying to block, or the tight ends are trying to sit out here and go out of the coverage. Now, the tight ends did have some some big holding calls. I mean they probably cast Dalvin Cook about forty fifty yards in this game because
they got caught holding. Yeah, this is true, and that's why I think a guy like Sean can stuff up in there, and you know he might, he might, you know, provide us with some assistance. I mean, look, we need all the help we can get. But when it comes to coverage, I mean, who do you put in there? Do you put Jalen over Sean as far as coverage or do you or do you leave? I mean, I don't know. That's a tough one. That's a tough one.
That's that's tough because because you really don't know what Sean Lee can do in coverage coming off the injury, like you said, um and like you know, and and as bad as Kirk Cousins can play, sometimes the passing, attacking and some of the weapons that they have out there, they like to attack the middle of the field, So you're going to need your linebackers to be out there getting that underneath coverage and helping some of those cornerbacks out.
So you need somebody who's aware it can move. That's why it's kind of a toss up in the passing situations. But as far as is stopping to run and making impact plays, I still like Jaylen Smith to be that guy who can who can create some of those plays, you know, either be rushing the pastor shooting some gaps or at tackling those guys on the screen with its
good recognition. So so, Danny, is it in the point in time now where we could talk about, you know, you don't want to get Sean Lee hurt, but it's almost deaf Con five and trying to win some games. So do you just not put him out there and just just just let it ride. If you're the Cowboys, well, well it's not about not getting them hurt. I still think that Jayla could make more plays in certain situations,
and LV is also making plays. So I think you just have to fight, like you have to kind of force a way for him to get on the field and be there consistently, you know, without him having to come in you know, spot players here and there. I don't want to see him taking away snaps from Jaylen Smith when Jayles Smith could rush the pastor you know and create some turnovers or read some hav having in the backfield and LV is making some play. So it's
just hard. It's hard for me to say, yeah, push you on Lee in there and take snaps away from from those guys. All right, let's take our second break right here on the players launch abott you by Hotels dot Com. When we come back, I want Danny and Barry former DBS to take me through what the Buffalo Bills Monday morning film session must have been like after DeAndre Hopkins beats three Bills players for a touchdown path and also the wide receiver from Minnesota. I'm most worried
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Football for the Cowboys. So we all saw that that miracle plague they're calling get the Hail Murray where Kyler Murray avoid the Bills rusher keeps on his feet going toward the left, gathers his feet, throws the ball to the end zone, and DeAndre Hopkins jumps it, gets three Buffalo Bills players and brings it down. So I'm gonna start with you, Church, what is the Monday film session like for the Buffalo Bills who lost their game on
a hail Mary? In the zine? Man, Well, unfortunately, Man, I know this this play all too well, seeing as though back and I believe it was twenty twelve, Detroit came down to Dallas and Calvin Johnson had a day on us man, and I think it was right before halftime he had threw up the store up of hell Mary passed to him. Just you know, just a jump
ball and it was me. I think Sean Lee was there, and I think Malcolm Malcolm Jenkins, Mike Jenkins was back there the corner that we used to have for the Cowboys, and I thought we were in great coverage. I was even holding him, I was holding them down, and the man just like I wasn't even there, Like I was just on four a rat. He just lifted off with me on his back, Sean Lee on his side, and Mike Jenis comes running in. It's just nothing we could do. Man.
I was like climbing the tower and this dude just caught it, landing on his feet, kind of shook us off like some leaves and just kept walking. Man. It
was It was embarrassing, man. So I can only imagine, you know, what these cats you know up in Buffalo are going through in the film study right now, man, especially seeing the post conference when DeAndre Hopkins was just talking about yeah, you know, they were in good position, but it was just a better catch by me or by I, Like he just just talking down to the guys. So I mean it, it definitely got to be embarrassing.
But that's a tough play, man, tough play, Yeah, I'll tell you this, they're definitely going over that on Friday and Saturday. They going over that exact situation, and we talked about it in the break. You see one guy come in and knocked your Davious White off off of them. Usually usually usually in that play, you have one jumper and you have everybody else boxing out, and every everybody went up to jump, and you know, you know, the better, the better guy came down with it. That was a
heck of a played by him. But I would have liked to see some of the other guys not jumped in that underneath coverage playing the out routes and get back there and help those guys out as well, because you saw some guys up there playing fifteen twenty yards up trying to stop people from going from catching catching balls before the end zone. So they're gonna go over that on Friday and Saturday and trying to make sure it doesn't happen again. All right, Cowboys taking on the
Minnesota Vikings up there at US Bank Stadium. It is a mini Jerry World. I was there that first season. The Cowboys ended up playing a Thursday night game there. They ended up in a good game that they won, but uh, it's it's very reminiscent of going at at and T Stadium where there's a bar and the players come out through that through that bar. The receiver I'm most worried about is Justin Jefferson. It's not Adam Feeling. It is Justin Jefferson. And how he was the fifth
receiver taking in the first round is mind boggling. Man. Here's the kid who was outstanding at LSU, one of the guys that Joe Burrow went to and they won a national championship. He went fit and in Philadelphia because the Philly media lets nothing slide, they were on Jalen Rager about how Justin Jefferson has been so much better than him as a rookie, and Jayleen Ragor It's like, man, I've been hurt. Man. You know, he's done what he did, but I've been hurt. I mean, it is hilarious, man.
And I've heard a couple of people you know around here, um, you know, saying about CD Lamb. Well, you know, look, George Jefferson's Justin Jefferson, I should say, not his brother, but Justin Jefferson is better than CD Lamb. I mean, uh, if here the Cowboys, you better look out for that
young man because he is really good. I'll let you take it from there, Danny mccrep oh, listen, you know I'm gonna pat myself on the back because before the draft I specifically said I hope that we pick up Justin Jefferson because we watched him play the entire season and he was one of the best route runners they came out of the draft, and he was the best run after the catch guys that came came out of the draft, and we, you know, unfortunately weren't able to
get but in my heart, I knew that he was gonna be one of those top guys because if you come out and you know how to run routes that way, and you know how to present yourself to the quarterback and get open, you're gonna be able to make some plays. And he is playing outstanding. So Thieland is playing well, but we're gonna need somebody to have an eye on Justine Jefferson because if not, we see he can go
for one of those two hundred yard or two touchdown games. Yeah, and he did that last night against a Bears defense who and I believe it's one of the top defenses in the National Football League. So I think this dude, this dude's legit. Man, this dude is nasty. They move him around and get him open. He just not, you know, a premier outside receiver. He doesn't in the slot. He's very quarterback friendly. So he reminds me of Senee Lamb in that way, because they both threw a lot of
their damage out of the slot. But this is a guy that we got a key on, especially in the secondary. I mean, usually we would have a dig type of guy to kind of shut that number one down, But without him being there, I'm not sure who you kind of throw on him, because this dude is he's nasty as far as it comes with the route running. But for me, it's still all boils down to Dalvin Cook.
I mean, I mean, we know they have weapons outside with the Lynn and Jefferson and IRV Smith and those boys, but we all know this offense lives and breathe through Dalvin Cook. And this one's gonna be a tough one. I know, I got us going six and ten, but it is one of the games I don't see us stealing because I mean, that's a grown man back there in that backfield, and we see what he was able to do to Chicago, carrying them going on along for the ride. So for me, it's gonna be a tough one.
It's gonna be a tough one overall. Church Church, as you was describing justin Jefferson, I closed my eyes and I was I was like, if this guy didn't say the name, I would assume that you was talking about a guy name of Mary Cooper. We should be doing the same thing with him, moving around. He's crisp on his routes. You move around, create some matchups and let him let him do what he does best, which is route dvs up and get open and make plays with
the ball. Is answer. That's what I thought you were talking about. But you still think Amary got that though you still think he got that absolutely. Mary Cooper is still one of the best route runners in the NFL, and if you get the ball in his hands, he can make the plays. I fully believe it. A hundred million dollar guy, if you give him a chance, he can be worth something close to it. We just need to give him the opportunities. So who should get more ops?
Thole should Cedee Lamb get more option. Gallup, Are you saying we should solely focus on Coop and then you know, let the other targets kind of trickle out themselves. Absolutely. What I'm going to echo this for the entire season. The offense should focus on especially down Zeke and Amari Cooper, and then it's everybody else should live off of that. You should be focused on getting nineteen the ball, making the defense focus on him, and then letting everything else
open up. When you when you take him out of the game and you don't give the ball and you make it easy on the defense, he's pretty much irrelevant out there. But Craig preach, preach because I go back to when the Cowboys were three and five and they make this trade for a MARII Cooper and then they
went on that run and save Jason Garrett's job. It was Amari Cooper, and I don't know, maybe they brought too many other roosters into the henhouse because when it was just Cooper is the guy they were feeding him, they were winning. And you know, I don't know if this is supposed to be an equal opportunity offense now or what, but but we're not seeing Cooper get fed. When Cooper is fed, We've seen the results, and so I think mccraig, you've been preaching on this all year long,
and I think you're all point there. I don't I don't understand that maybe this is what Kellen Moore wants to do. But but I think you're right. Figure out a way to force feed nineteen through football if you have to. Y'all want, y'all want to know what I'm look, I'm gonna tell y'all what's gonna happen you. I want to replicate that feeling. Y'all want that same type of say the season how Mark Cooper kind of did us back then when we were three and five. Gotta let
your boy Gilbert spin. Y'all want those same type of results. Y'all want that wave, y'all want that that stretch of winds. Y'all gotta let my boy Gilbert spin. I mean, look, it's going down either way, because because Don't will be on a short leash. Either way, it's going down. Gilbert is gonna take over. And that way that y'all talking about that streak that saved the lot of jobs, it's gonna happen again. No, nue. He's not listening to us. That's not what we want. That's what you want. We're
not asking for that. I'm just telling y'all what's gonna happen this six and ten? Making the playoffs again, stumped out in the first round, That's what That's the way that you want. The way that we want is load up in the draft picks, fix your old line and fix your defense. Bring somebody in here to runner for three. That's the way that we want. We are total opposite and what you're talking about, y'all see, I'll remain in schedule for y'all. See all remaining schedule. I see a
lot of too. We can't get to six and ten. Y'all telling me we can't get to six and ten. I see a lot of those on the Well, you know I brought up. I brought up justin Jefferson. And one of the things that I'm thinking is somewhere along the way, no one's gonna have to go send some heat at at Kirk Cousins because we saw how affective Chicago was with that. So that means you're gonna have to leave some guys one on one. And when I think about Jefferson one on one against Cheeto, who's coming
back and hasn't played a lot this year. He's been injured. Anthony Brown. I mean, man, we could see a fifty four yarder. We could see a bomb, I mean easily. So these Cowboys dvs. Remember, Digs is out. They have not shown me, Barry that they can be trusted. So you can roll off the six and ten record here. As barselves used to say, all I can go by is what I see. And until I see the Cowboys defensive backs get out here, stop getting beat on big plays.
This is the type of team, this is the type of wide receiving corps that can make those big plays. I'm worried he did. I'm a little bit worried too, But I think this defensive line is getting it together. Man. I think we're gonna start getting more pressure with just four. I don't think we're gonna have to send as much, you know, as many blitzes as we did in the past. And I think we're gonna be able to start getting more pressure with d Law hopefully Alden Smith and you know,
my boy Neville Galimore is gonna bring it too. So for me, if we can do that if we can get that pressure coming with just for it or leave a lot more options to cover the Jeffersons the feelings of the world. So maybe we put that game plan together, we get a W. And at Minnesota, who do you resign in the off season? Do you resign Cheeto or
do you resign Lewis? What do you do there? McCray, I'm gonna getting at the church because y'all, you know, every time I'm talking about a cornerback on this team, always negative. So I'm at church. Church. You take this one, bro, you take this one. I don't want to. I was saying I was just feed off of it. I got nothing, I got nothing to start. I'm giving it to you. You got it first. McCray. I don't see the problem, but you know I'll take it. I'll take the y'all
take the question. Man. I think I think you got something in Diggs that you can build upon. I mean, we've seen him have his ups and downs so far this season, but he's battled, he's competed, and um, you know, he's made a tough one receiver. So I think you got something kind of a cornerstone's up at the one. Yeah, he's not up. Yeah, he's up. I understand that. I understand that I got to my point. I'm getting to my point, so I think you got the time to
get to it. All right, I'm gonna just break it up, gonna baking it down quickly. I'm gonna break it down quick. Cheeto. You gotta keep them because you just can't leave Digs being the only only guy. They're kind of vet experience. They're at cornerback. So I think you gotta keep a woozier um Lewis and and Brown. Well, Lewis is up, so I think you gotta let him walk. And uh and Brown. I think Brown now Brown just resign. So yeah, I gotta keep you. Yeah, okay, so you gotta keep Cheo.
Let Lewis walk. Yep, McCrae, gotta Lewis walk. This This is something I gotta answer, you know, as we go further into the season, as we need to match up and get some of these some of these topics. If it's no, no, if it's today, I'm not keeping I'm not keeping in any one up if it's today. But we also answer that is correct. Yeah, but we we also know that that that the coaching that they're receiving may be a little off. We know that the defensive
coordinator may be a little off so far. So you know, a lot of stuff is playing into it, you know, to be at the end of the year. Last year, we thought George Lewis was gonna be one of those guys who was having to gonna have a great season this year because he had the talent to be to you know, to make some things happen. So I'm not
going to just throw that by the wayside. But I need to see if Church saying that the defense is turning the corner here, I need to see how these guys play against Justine Jefferson and theland and when they get out there, you know, and continue to play against some top receivers, how they perform throughout the rest of the season. I got to see how that goes before
I say let them both off. But as of today, I would let them let them both up, and I would throw this, I would throw this other factor into it as well. Maybe they don't want to play for the Cowboys anymore, Maybe they want to go play for another team. And if they bring and I expect them to bring in a new defensive coordinator and most likely a new defensive backs coach. So maybe that new DC, a new new corner coach, may want someone else as well.
Maybe they have a specific type of player that they want. And if the Cowboys get high enough in this draft, let's just say they're picking third man. You got the ability. Now at three, maybe somebody wants to make a trade and get up here and get a quarterback because you know that by U quarterback is a guy people are talking about. I mean, so you could trade down, possibly rack up, and get yourself several pieces in the first
round to go ahead and improve this football team. And maybe you're getting the Patrick's team junior from Alabama, or another corner and maybe a defensive end. Of mean, you got options. So that's why McCray and I are thinking about twenty twenty one. This draft. The Cowboys could really do some wheeling and dealer with a high enough pick to do some stuff while Churches out here trying to go six and ten for a first round beat down.
Anything can happen in the tournament. I can't believe him here, including to beat from mc can't believe that McCray from your right, this is ridiculous. All right, that's the show for the day. We're gonna let mccraig go do his thing. We're gonna let Church drink his Mike Nolan kool aid of six and ten, and we'll see where it all goes. We will do the Players Lounge tomorrow. I appreciate everybody checking us out and our man Chris being the producer
who makes everything happen. Chris. We all appreciate you, man. Okays want you to know that, Chris, we appreciate absolutely. Okay, we appreciate drinking the cool leg too. Uh yeah, yeah, don't appreciate that. But you had a cool leg though, you know. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. We'll do it tomorrow. Everybody, take care, goodbye. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. H
