Player's Lounge: First Impressions

We've been able to have a couple of media things upstairs, but but not I've not been down here well over eight years. Players last, Players lined up. New Scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter. That's Barry Church for Dallas Cowboys safety number forty two. Buddy Danny McRae. He's still on assignment, but we may have Danny next week. We're looking and hoping to have Danny next week here. So we're back here in the building here the SWBC Mortgage Studios to do

our thing for the next hour. Now. We're we're pushed back an hour today because Scotboys rookie camp and we wanted to get out here and see exactly what was going on here in church. Yes, sir, this is where I'm going to lean on you because you've played the game. You were undrafted rookie. You know what a rookie minicamp means. That what these guys were out here. So give me

your impressions of some of the guys you saw. Give me some some some guys he said, Oh I like this, and some guys you said, well, got a question mark. All right, all right, dive into it a little bit and um, well, first and first point, I'm glad they're having this rookie mini caamp. I mean, for so many guys out there, this is such an advantage. There's such

an opportunity to make the team. I mean, I know when me and our other running Bate McCrae, came to rookie mini camp, we were only two safeties out there, so we had to take every single one on one red, every single team rep. I mean it was it was a brutal stretch right there, but I mean we made it all payoff because it helped us make the team.

So I'm glad these guys are able to have the opportunity to go out there show what they got out there in front of these coaches, and this is just a building block, This is just a start of what they can do. So but when I looked at this game, when I looked out there at that practice, I'm gonna tell you who I was extremely impressed with. And I didn't even know who the guy was. I didn't even know he existed. At first. I knew he was a draft pick that I didn't even know, like, you know,

all right, he might be a camp body. But it was number thirty eight. And I don't want to. I do not want to butcher his last name. But his name is Israel, and I don't want to mukakama, mukuamo kuam you heard first, mum Reel Israel. He was the corner outside opposite of J. C. Horn down there in South Carolina, and they moved him back to free safety. And this is a big kid. It's a big six four two twelve, so he's he's a big guy, big kid,

and they moved back to free safety. So I was looking at the dB drills, not just you know, bias at the safety. I'm looking at him, and this guy looked fluid. I'm talking about from the breaks. I mean, there was no false steps he wasn't stepping in the bucket. Everything just seemed to be a positive movement with this guy. His hips were extremely fluid. He had great ball skills.

You know those coaches during those drills, they like the fire the ball, they the riflet thinking back in the day, thinking it is you know they Johnny United, I'm a getting and I mean this guy was catching everything. He looked extremely fluid. When they were doing the kind of mirror the receiver drills as a kind of a press coverage technique, he looked extremely like comfortable, like he was out there before. And that's what cast to become from

his corner background that he had in South Carolina. But I'm loving what I've seen in this guy. I know it's early. I know everybody looks great when you just have shoulder, when you just have shorts and a helmet on, and everybody looks like they're the best athlete in the world. But from my time in the league, I can tell you that guy looks extremely fluid and I want to see what he can bring to the table for this defense, especially in that safety room where it seems to be

up for grabs. It seems to be up for grabs outside of a strong safety position, so I want to see what he can do. Six round six, round pick twenty seven. And he looks good. He looked. I watched him the whole time. He looked good. And there was another guy, another safety back there. Because you know me, you know I love the defensive side. I love the secondary. So I focused a lot on the secondary of to day. And this is an undrafted dude. This guy was undrafted.

I believe he was out of Purdue. But it's thirty nine Tyler Coyle if I'm not speaking his name wrong. I looked guy looked fluid as well. You could tell he had some experience. Back there's backpedal looked great, as transitions looked great. Now he's a little smaller of a guy, so we gotta see what he looks like when pads get back on. But overall, those two looked extremely impressive to me as far as fluid and just being able to getting in and out of their brakes catching the ball.

They seem very natural out there. Now, once again, this is just in helmet, so we'll see what they looked like with pads come on. But both of those guys looked amazing to me out there. I don't want to see what they got later on in camp. But what was kind of I'm not gonna say it's disappointing. I'm not gonna say it's disappointing because the guy had a whole year off, you know, because he opted out of

the coviding. But the first round pick, Mike Parsons, I mean, you can tell you have some explosiveness to him, but I'm not so sure that Cardio is all the way up to snuff. I mean, when I was watching him out there, it was it was early in practice. He had his you know, hands over his head. He had the kickstand going, and everybody that's an athlete and played football, y'all know what the kickstand is. That leg over leg so you can just kind of balance up with all

you using all your muscles. Out there, he was breathing heavy, hands on the knees, shorts. It was just and then after every after every kind of rep they did, it wasn't like he did. He didn't have like that spring like oh bam, I just hit the sled. I got that spring. It was like, oh I just slid and it was kind of oozy. As coach Garrett what used to say it it's oozy. It wasn't snap. It was kind of oozy. So hoping he can get his cardio

back up. So I was I was a tad bit not I don't want to say disappointed, but just like man, I thought he would come in with a little bit more. Yeah, small red flag. And there's a difference between you know, being in shape and in being in football shape. And we talked about this before the show. When you're out there working out, you know what to expect. You know, Oh, I got this. I can cruise through this part, go hard on this part, so you know what you're doing.

But when you get into that football field and that football shape, you got coaches yelling at you non stop to go here, and hear that shape seems to get zapped quick. So I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. It was the first little rookie camp. We'll see what he can do later on, but right now, it's kind of a short, little red flag for me. No, he just looks a little red flight. That's it. Well, I go back to something you just said, I don't

played football a year. That's true. So that means not only you're not been, and I don't and just what you said, you don't care that he worked out with a trainer and they simulated some drills and maybe he even hired a professional coach to help him out. It's a whole other thing when you're out here in the team, are with the juice slowing, and then you're now giving instruction as well. And that was that next thing. I wanted to ask you about what you saw here at manicamp,

because now guys are learning voscot. This is different. This is not the same thing. They ran. The speed, the temple, everything goes up another notch here, Oh yeah, it goes up another notch. And right now, it's kind of cool because you're, you know, you're you're amongst your rookies, and you're amongst the first year guys. You guys are all

kind of in the same boat. But when those veteran guys get out there and it ramps up a little bit and you see how they're going one hundred miles an hour in each direction, that's when it kind of get you a little flustered as you're a rookie, like I gotta go here, I gotta go there. That's when you gotta find that leader. That guy. For me, it was Gerald cincinbad for me, it was you know those type of guys I kind of kind of led behind, let them, let them go by example when I just

kind of fed off of what they were doing. So these rookies now, I mean, it's it's it's a little bit easier because you're you're amongst your peers and you know, you guys are you know, don't know what to expect out there. But once everybody comes to as a team together, that's when it's gonna ramp up a little bit, and coaches are gonna they're gonna gonna let you know, they're gonna let you know, he's pick it up here, pick it up there. They ain't going to sugarcoat things like

when you're all amongst your rookies. So I mentioned to see what they can do when it comes to that point. But right now, I mean, it was it was a it was a good first start. It was a good first start. So I was watching Parsons out there, and also I was checking out jabrelle Cox, m linebacker from Ali. He was that big, so I thought he was my size,

but he got some size to him. He bought two thirty something, and George Edwards was basically, even though he's not the linebacker coach, he's basically leading all the linebacker drills and out there teach him. So I paid attention to him a little bit. Also put my eyes on number twenty four, Kelvin Joseph, so I was looking at him in Nashan right the other corner, the third third

round pick. They took number ninety nine overall, six foot four from Oregon State, And it was just interesting because there's one drill they were running out there, so you had you had Easy and Nashan the Sean right there next to each other, like they're very tall. And then it was and then it was a little because I wrote his name down here. It was the running back Nick Ralston. So Nick Rawlston, the six foot full back from Louisiana was standing next to him. Yes, I was like,

these corners, these corners, they were the corner safe. They are big. So that is something that that really kind of stood out to me as I watched rookie camp and then the other thing with the quarterbacks here. So the quarter iually brought in JT. Barrett of Ohio State fame, who's from which a tall Texas? Which which a tall false Texas where the Cowboys used to whole training camp and then Brady Davis quarterback out of an Illinois state.

Not good? Yeah good. When I was looking, you know, it's kind of reminded me of when the Nucci went out there for that Philadelphia game on Sunday night and you just looking and you're just like, man, he just ain't got it. Well, I mean the tough part is the pastors. What you said, you just saw inaccurate passage, and it was there was no rush. That's the thing that it was like. It's literally there's not even an

offensive line in front of you. It's do your drop back or do your fake handoff, and then there's a coach standing right where you could throw the ball. And it was just a lot of air throws. I mean sometimes coach had to jump up and tip it with one hand to try to bring it in. I made it, and it shouldn't be like that when there's no rush,

no amts to line. I mean, maybe the nerves got the better of them, you know, you know, first time out in the league, you know, they just got the star on your helmet, but it was just a lot of inaccuracies out there. Yeah. So so I'm also trying to check out semi Philco from Stanford, and it was it's just it was it was tough. I mean, the white receivers out there today, you had a tough job because the quarterbacks here were you know this clearly it's not Dak Prescott and you know, but it's it was.

It was tough. And so it ain't like my boy double g out there. You no, no, no, no, no, literally, I mean it's it's no, you're not. It's not Garrett Gilbert, you know, it's it's it's it's an issue here. So that was the thing I took away from the quarterbacks here. Question real quick before we go on, are you comfortable Gilbert backing up be backing up Prescott out there. I'm not really worried about it. Now. I think what we'll see and you know this business come June first, Let's

see who else is out here. Okay, that's right, that's who who else is gonna be out here? Um, they brought in Jeff Driscoll for a little business and they didn't sign him. And I'm like, good, yeah, no, no, no, So so just let's see what we Every year, we know there's gonna be some players releases. You got that guy's on them, we're getting okay, can we grab him? Right?

So so let's let's see what happens. And just like Andy Dalton, you weren't expecting Andy Dalton to end up with the Cowboys last year, and so along the way, and I think of this from a backup standpoint. Okay, if you're a guy out there and you want to go, I want to check, go to the Cowboys. No state taxes can't beat it. Dak's probably gonna play because until last year he always played. That's exactly what Andy Dalt was thinking. Let me get just three f Romo's here,

give me golf club. I know the game plan, I know what I need to do. He would literally come in every Monday, coward and we're coming every Monday. Who's ready to party? And I'm like, hold on, man, we just had a game. We're out here, dead tired floor. Kyle Lord's coming in. Happened? You know what's going on? Guys? What's up? I'm like, man, he had the job, he

had to. I mean, he had it made right, right, so to me, I would think that in this whole backup market that you know, somebody loses a job and and and we know that as you go through coaching staff, somebody's gonna get free. I just believe at some point in time the Cowboys will find someone and they'll be an attractive destination for a guy who says, you know, man's a little check, no state taxes, hang out, chill out in Texas. Can always thought about being a Cowboy.

I mean this is you can find that guy. You can't. You can't. And that's what I'm counting on Steven Jones and Will McClay to go find that guy. That guy I got, I got because through the years they found they have found that guy. I remember going back when Steve Burline was a backup quarterback for the Cowboys Detroit and Steve Burline has started a lot of games with the Raiders. I mean, this is a proven quarterback and

rode the train a little bit. Um got a couple of starts in the next thing, you know, move moved on. He came in. Ain't thing, got a couple of starts in. Uh some I think Romank gotta hurt one of those you've got a couple starts in the you know, who's on his way living a good life, living a good life,

living a good life. So that's so that's why, you know, let's let's just see where that where it plays out with a quarterback situation because I'm not I'm not, I'm not stressing on it, just because it's the cowboys and they're gonna get somebody, that's the bottom line. They're going to find someone to come in here and do this thing. Um. So I want to go back to Parsons. What you said, all right, Church, So you're saying shape is a condition a question for her at the conditioning, and you pose

the topic, can can Laton Vanderesh Jayals? Can they hold off Parsons? Who by the way, you know, it's supposed to start off at middle linebacker, see and that And that's the thing where I'm like, I don't know. If he was like, oh, they're gonna be at Sam, I'm like, all right, well, he's gonna start Sam and then they'll have Lve and they'll have a Jaalen Smith. They're gonna be the starters, but they have them at middle so they don't any't like they have them learning this base

for three outside? Do they got in that middle right behind? Who is it Smith Righter? That's that's Vanderesh in the middle and then Smith is on as at the whill. I believe, well, that's what they had last year under Nolan and before that switched. I mean, in my opinion, Um, I don't know. The first thing is good, get Vanderesh out that middle. Yeah, yeah, he get him out the middle with those neck problems. I mean subconsciously he might not even know it. He might just like I'm going

full force. But right before the impact you can tell. I mean, he was kind of it was just dumb. Yeah, it was just it was just Mike. Mike Nolan did a disservice to the players. Yeah, I'm hoping Dan Quink could bring a little bit more than Mike Nolan did. But if he's at if Parsons is at that Mike, I'm saying Jalen's in trouble. Man. I'm saying Jalen is in trouble. If if Parsons is at that Mike and he's backing them up, I'm saying Jalen's in trouble. Because

I'm thinking eventually this guy's goes. I don't know if it'll be weak one, but they're gonna push him on that field. I believe they're already hyping him up everywhere else. I mean, look at any type of social media ESPN, NFL netwhere anybody they're hyping this guy. He's already i think, leading the percentages from Rookie of the Year. And we didn't even stepped on the fail yead he talk Aboudy's

gonna be defensive Rookie of the Year. So whoever's in that middle spot, whether it be LV GYM, they're in trouble because he's gonna get every opportunity to get that starting spot. Now, unless he comes out here and plays, you know, just just below average and not good there, then he'll be the backup. But if he comes out here it's any any type of respectable play, I think he'll be forced into that lineup. Either he's ready or not. I think he'll be forced into that lineup. We just

gotta see what happens when he gets out there. And look, we know Vanderesh has a problem of availability. Yeah, this is very true. So you know these are factors that you had to put it. This is why you've got Jabril Cox on this team and Michael Parsons on this team. You're two starting guys right now, and Layton Vanderesh and Jalen Smith. Two years ago you thought you had You thought you had some some you know, perennial Pro Bowls. You thought this was a strength. Now it's a question mark.

It is Jerry Jones, And we talked to Jerry lil But and Jerry spoke about you know, okay, hey, look there's there's some some competition here, even a little bit of pressure for Jalen Smith, which which is good. That's gett ready to gain. I'm tired of dudes being handed job. We saw what happened last year when there's no accountability

and you got guys saying all types of stuff. You know, all right, hey, these coaches don't know how to coach or this that in the third you see you saw the film hundred say and then when Jalen says, just check the tape. We checked the tape and it's like you got guys running around you. It's so I love what they did as far as bringing in competition each level the line. We saw a couple of casualties already Antoine was is out of there because we brought in

some defensive line We didn't have a guarantee. You ain't two million. You aren't gonna pay two million for a guy's at backup when you've already drafted dudes you can you know those guys are going for six hundred k and you got two million. It's just if you just ain't gonna do it. Ain't gonna do it. Didn't have the linebacker you got. You know, like you you just said, we got all that competition. What are we gonna do with Kiano Neil? Now you know we brought him in

here five mill? Where does he play at? This is? This is for me why I think about Kiano Nil. I go back to what I've been talking by on the players not someone he knows the defense. That's true. So the fact that you know the defense gives you an advantage already. And also dan Quinn trusts you right now, if we're just being honest, dan Quinn can't trust any of these linebackers right now. You know, trust has trust has earned three ways. You need three things for trust, time, proof,

and consistency. Kean O'Neil has that. These other guys have to demonstrate it to him. So to me, Keyan O'Neil is a guy that right now I pencil him in on the lineup because he knows what to do or where to be. Yeah, but do you see you see you think paying him five meal and just having him in like some type of sub packages, like that's a lot of money just for being in like a you know, let's get him in here, Let's get him in some dying let's get him you know, ten fifteen snaps a game,

seventeen games, that's a that's a healthy one. That's a healthy long one. Yeah, seventeen games one, all right, so seventeen games, lake vanderesh? Can you write him down for seventeen? Could write him out for sixty? So you can't do that. Jayle Smith underperformed last year. He did, so you know, what are you gonna get? Maybe he's maybe you've let

his fired. He's gonna go ahead and have it unbelievable. Maybe, but you've got too many question marks in my opinion to say, well, we're gonna go ahead and let him go. We're gonna go ahead and cut nah nah. To me, Neil is a guy that I'm gonna have him here until until someone shows me that he shouldn't be here. I just hope they don't move him back to You can't just twy body. You got too many bodies. No, hey, plus he can't I was talking abouty Hares and Rody

say he can't cover. He can't cover. So if you put him in linebacker, fine, you can help himself. But do not have this guy covering anybody. So that's where once again you could trust your your your decordinator, Dan Quinn, because it's a player he knows, so you know him. You know the war, you know the wards. You know the great coaches understand the wards of their players, and they cover up the wards. So how do you cover up the ward for Neil? You don't put him back

here and say you're trying to cover anybody. Put him up here closer to the box. So at least they already understand who and what was he is a lot of times last year I don't think Mike Nolan knew what he had because he I mean, because if you did, you would never have put in Layton Bander. I should middle linebacker, swift the wheel at the wheel what I want? What do I I mean to me, I go back

to that Bear's Thursday Night game. I was a soldier field and you had duck on mental Trupisky turning through and around us, but but also going after Jalen. This was everywhere and he everywhere fifty four. It was like, I'm check, hey, target, Hey, Mike, fifty four, We're gonna target right. It was bad so so, but that was what he was doing. It's like that time when Aaron Rodders went out to the cheetoh twenty four. I'm going where's that? I'm going right there, And so that's what

Trubisky was doing a Janiel. So so we know this is not the strength of him. And that's where I go back to as a coach. And it doesn't matter what any sport, your coaches are supposed to figure out, what are the wards the team? How do you cover them up? And I thought Mike Nolan didn't do a good job and putting these guys in their best positions. And so that's your hope that Dan Quinn this year can take the linebacking corps and put him in the

proper position and get these guys rolling. I don't personally, I would hope that Neil made the team and could help coach the other guys you played with Sean Lee. What was one of the biggest benefits besides Sean when he was healthy playing it was Sean's ability to also helped coach. And it ain't even just his position. He would, I mean, he wouldn't know. He would let you the safety y'all gotta drop in here a corner, you got it.

If you're on a nub side, meaning there's no receivers in just a tight end, you gotta fit the d gap. I mean, he would. And that's the benefit of plan with a guy like that, because it was just it made everything so much easier because it was just like everybody was communicating and everybody was on the same page.

And hopefully, like you said, hopefully Keyan O'Neill or CAZy can bring that kind of that kind of calmness to a defense where if things are going crazy and people are like, I don't know what, everybody relaxed and you got this, you got that, and you get this Casey in the defensive backfield. So think of your last two levels. Last level, you got Kazy back here knows the defense knows what Dan Quinn wants, then over here the linebacker level, you got Neil who's gonna help your guys figure out

what to do and where to go. Hey, Parson, is what we're looking for, LV, this is what they're looking This is what they're looking for, and that, to me is a big benefit. And Dan Quinn spoke about that after the draft the press conference I was at, so but I just I just believe that's a big emphasis and I just believe that's a big help. And to me,

five million dollars for that is worth it. And hopefully he's that type of player where he's like, I'm an if I help everybody out and benefits the whole team, because there's some players out there that, hey, you know, I'm trying to get on the field too, and I'm trying to make my staff and stay on the field, so I can't you know, I'll help you to some sort but I can't, you know, I can't divulge all that.

So it just depends on the type of player he is, and hopefully he's one of those guys that, hey, come with me, I'll teach you to ropes, young guy. So hopefully he's that kind of because if it's the other way that. I mean, the team's just knock gonna, it's not gonna, you know, And that's a great point, and

we'll find out. Find out, Yeah, find out. But so you've got that two players who know the defense, and I also go back to this where you've got dan Quinn bringing in two assistants who understand this defense at the front and the back. I just believe that these are opportunities where the Cowboys can help themselves. Or last year you just had so much dysfunction between the coaches and the players. Last year was bad. It was too

much gray area. You know, people are talking about I don't like standing up and this, that and a third and every people didn't even know how to play cover three for the most part out there, and that's one of the most simple basic coverages there is. So I, you know, coaching the coaches, okay, so here's my only trying to coach the coaches. Now you also trying to coach the players. Yeah, So it was it was a mess.

It was. It was a mess. And hopefully dan Quinn can get this thing fixed and just have some symbolance of everyone understand, Hey, Jovi Dv's coach. He knows what's going on here, you know, so so that in your D line coaches, you brought it really that he gets what's going on. So just at least that part and a huge part of that hopefull it's gonna hope, well,

hopefully we'll get the word on it is. If we're gonna have like otia some sort of some some some type as sibilance of OTAs mini camps something like that, we'll go a long way, I think with this team, because I mean last year we saw it. We no OTAs, no mini camp abbreviated training camp. We saw how I heard us out there. People were running around with their heads cut off out there. So hopefully we're able to do something in the off season. This rookie mini camps

a great start. Hopefully we'll be able to do all that stuff we got. It's gotta have it. Well, you know, we saw all these draft picks here don't don't, don't know what to do and the neat him in here. All right, let's take a break. Second, first break here, let's dive into the twenty twenty one schedule here on the players lines. We haven't done it yet, and I really want to focus on the front and the back. It's a seventeen game schedule, folks. Seventeen games, um never

happened before in the National Football League. So it's going to be interesting to see. I mean, you talk about a marathon. It was already at marathon at sixteen. Now you add one more seventeen. It is a This is going to be a long year health matters. We'll dive into it next. He's Bury Church Form Dallas Cowboy of New Scrugs, longtime Cowboy, Your put us players last right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. Adjust your cleats,

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forty two, former Cowboys safety with us. I knew he scrugs, longtime Cowboys reporter, So let us dive into this Cowboys twenty twenty one schedule. And the league did Mike McCarthy no faith, no love by saying, hey, not only do you get Week one against Tom Brady and Tampa Bay, you're gonna get it up Thursday night on in BC as they raised the banner up the Pirates ship to

celebrate their second World championship. We knew Tampa was on the schedule, and you knew you had to go to Tampa, but you weren't thinking week one, week one that I meant before we got that's an audit to me, that's an l off the rib I mean, that's that's an l off the ribbon. I say that because look at Tampa, baby, they brought back literally their whole, their whole twenty two starting roster. Calvin Watkins the Dallas Morning News says, it's

a w he's crazy, he's out of his mind. They got back their whole twenty two rosso Even if they lets say they knocked out oh, we don't have OTAs, we don't have any of that, they still got that continuity. They know the strengths and weaknesses of each other, and they got the same team back. Okay, so here's here's the graphic. We'll dive more into that, but this is this is what you got. So two road games to start the season, all right, So you got Tom Brady

and the Buccaneers. Then you get last year's Rookie of the Year offensive rookie Justin Herbert got So you got to go to LA. Your first home game is against the Eagles. That's Monday night, football. Then you get Carolina

at Jerry World. So Carolina has got Sam Darnald now the quarterback position, and I personally think that if you give Sam Darnold some help which he has down there for a receiver position and get in the running back position to run CMC, I think Sam Doarnold's gonna gonna show folks that he can play he can play football. And then of course you get Week five at home against the New York Football Giants. So to me, I look at these first five games, is the cow advantage. Yes,

the Cowboys have got to take advantage. They've got to try and get things done here. So, by the way, within this, you charge your game, your eagle game. Two new head coaches. This is true. Okay, so both teams have head coaches, Toddy, these are games you've got to get. You got Carolina coming in here, it's a home game. You gotta handle your business. And then with the Giants being a division game, here the Cowboys. To me, the Cowboys and this first fuck, you got to win three.

You got to win three, and you got three at home that are very very very winnable. And then you got the one out in the West Coast which is, like you said, it's gonna be a tough one because you've got to go all the way out to the West Coast. I mean, they're playing at what at the time, they're playing over there. They're planning a three twenty five, so they ain't it too bad. But like you said, Herbert has been slinging the ball great this past year.

He got weapons out there defensively, I think we should be able to take advantage of them. So I'm gonna count that as a w But these three home games we gotta wipe off the plate. We gotta make sure we take advantage of these three home games. I'm talking about the Eagles, the Carolina Panthers, and the New York Giants. We have got to take advantage of them. Two of

those games or division games. So we gotta get a leg up in the division with both of those, with both of those teams, and I feel like we can do so. Against the Eagles, I'm not worried about the Eagles. Were worries me a little bit though, is what they

got going on in New York. The Giants, I think they're gonna sleep, They're gonna sneak up on a lot of cast this year, they added a lot of talent to that offensive side of the ball, and they're bringing back Nate Soldier who opted out last shot their left tackles, so they're solidifying that offensive. Look. I thought he was all right. Here's the thing about Solder. How many guys has Belichick let walk out the building? Where you say, boy boy, they miss him? What? Tom Brady? I love

Willie McGinnis, Willie's my boy challenge Jones. Okay, two there we really begin us when to Cleveland, but we got to so so okay, two mistakes two and six Chandler Jones is definitely a mistake. Brady. That's it. That's it. That's it, you know, I mean the Super Bowl MVP Dion Brand Did they miss him? He ain't done. Wes Welker good player. So so so that's my thing when I think about when I when I think about that, um, I just don't think Solder was that much of a

difference maker. Now, what they've got to do is get last year's first round pick, it was Andrew Thomas from from George. They got to get that guy to speed. He was the first tackle take and he's got to improve. But we saw the Giants last year as eight team start to buy more into what Joe Judge was doing. Ye, say, Quon Barkley, what's back? What's the help? And that's the what's the You know, these injuries play game. This is true. You know we always want to think guys or who

they used to be when they come back. Can he can he pull off an Adrian Peterson? Can he come back? Because because Ape's a freak. We all know Ap, it's a freak of nature. If he had if he can come back in any type of similance like that, I think they're gonna be legit. Man. So so there, So it's no bottom line is it's no easy double no, noon is. Yeah, there's never an easy w once you're in the division. So those are the first five games, all right, Chris gives the next ones. So then it

is a week six contest. You're going to New England to face the Patriots. They don't win there, No, I mean, it doesn't matter what's happen. Ye, it don't matter. Um, it's it's I tell you what. That's a trip I'm hoping to go on. I love going up there, man, I like driving through the neighborhood and then you just stadium just pops up, boom. It's it's a pretty cool spot.

It's definitely a pretty cool spot. Stay over in Rhode Island and I go to this place called Iggy's, uh Iggy's Dope Boys, and um, they got the best clam cakes and clam strips. It's right there on the water Soggs. Yeah. Man, the seafoods fresh. You can't beat the seafood from up there. I'm right the road on So it's one sent it so my spot when you go over there and go go go down and shot down at Iggy's, go to the game right if at the game, go the next day.

But they've got to figure out a way to get a w whether it's Cam Newton starting or Matt Jones, but they have to figure out a way. They've got to start stealing some games on the road. And that's one they got to steal last the last time they were there, it was cold, it was in the rain, it was there for the taking. Should have won it. They should have won it. And when you lost it because the special teams, Yeah, nobody, nobody but Block Slater,

Matthew Slater. Nobody right, So they lost. They lost. It was the dreaded fair catch game, right when when he had like fifteen that wasn't that was ta was against Minnesota. Minnesota forgot about the Blenders, the special teams blenders day. No, no, that was that was the next thing that drove Jerry Man. Next but after that Patriots, Jerry was so hot. He was hot because it was winnable game. Oh yeah, New England had no wide receivers. I mean, this was a

winnable game. So maybe this is the one they can actually get in. Tom Brady doesn't play there anymore, so maybe this is the time that Mike McCarthy and company can get it. So Week seven is a buye. Then it's another road game. Now it's the Minnesota Vikings and it's on NBC Sunday Night Football, Thanksgiving Night. Um, you can say whatever you want about Kirk Cousins, but understand, the guy has weapons. And I know the Cowboys been the last year, but you know, you take you take

Jordan Jefferson, you got Adam Feeling, you have Dalvin Cook. Uh, this is a challenge and if Mike Zimmer can fix his defense, which I think they got their capabilities to do. So they they're I think they're gonna they're gonna pose a pretty formidable, formidable game for es, especially being in Minneapolis primetime. That's gonna be a tough one for you. We do play well on primetime, though, I will say

that we do play well on primetime. So then you get you get the Denver Broncos and luckily you don't have to go to Mile High Stadium. It's a tough place to play. But you get the Broncos here. Who knows who the quarterback will be, Drew Locker or Bridgewater. But you know, I'll say this, They're gonna be good defensively. They're gonna be good defensively. Soon will be back in there, will be back coming off the edge. So Vaughn on a contract yere okay, Vaughn on a contract year at all?

Last year off basically so. And then you get the Atlanta Falcons coming back to Jerry World, so dan Quinn and company and maybe they'll win one for dan Quinny weapons. You talk about Julio Calvin Ridley, the stud from Florida pitt. I don't think. I don't believe Julio Jones will be there. You don't think you think they're gonna get rid of Julio. You got cat problems, man, he does count. Okay, so you've got to you have cat problems, You've got to

sign these rookies. So they were already talking from church. They spent the whole drafts about trading for I mean that though, who gon gonna take that contract? And fel Man, who think anybody take Jared Goff's contract? Detroit too, So so you know, you get trade, you know, and here comes that thing now, golf. The contract got moved, but look at all that the Rams had to give Detroit in order to move it. So start quarterback game. So if you're if you're Atlanta first, no you don't because

you gotta pay for the contract. I gotta pay the big money. So I'm gonna take that. You can, Yes, yes, someone, yes, someone will take it, because someone will look at Julio and say, this is the piece we need Snational Football League man, somebody. He's had had some injuries too. I don't know when the last time he played a full full sixteen. Well. I also heard of Bertie tell me that he's not a big practice player either. New head coach, you know, great player, don't like practice kind of doing

his own thing. But said, that's what that's what I was told. So yes, he has what weapons, But I don't think that Jones is going to be there. Yeah, I think they moved Jones on. I don't know. That's like I said, because of the cab. I mean, this is this is now money. This isn't talent. So let's just throw out the fact that this is a guy who who's had a fantastic NFL career and his name should be talked about when he retires of possibly being

a Hall of Famer. Poor guy. You know, he made that greatch that toe touch toe toe tapping catching soup in the Super Bowl that should resulted in the field goal which they could have won. You know, that kind of ring thing that he could have had for himself. He won't have that, But but you can't afford him. That's that's what this is all about. Now, that's why I say June first, it's gonna be interesting because there's gonna be some teams to look at some guy. We

can't afford this. We have to make off and let's be on the super Bowl team. M hm. They brought him all back Is this the super Bowl team? No, that's so, why are we paying Huligo maw? We gotta characterized. Let's let's move him on. Let's let him move on. We're gonna put his note brought down the rafters one day. But it becomes about the cost. And I see Atlanta, I see why Atlanta will want to get off of them. I just don't see anybody wanting to grab that contract

for a gotta have. He's a great talent, great talent and will automatically make your receiving group better. But is he gonna be there for secon? Can I throw this out here? Who thought Houston would trade Hopkins? They did that? Yeah? That was so people lost his mind. People do goofy things. It is true, This is true. He lost his mind on now Yeah, so so people are gonna do some goofy stuff in this league. Um, so Jones will get moved.

There was already conversations, but it was trying to figure out the draft compensation and when you get it, so these conversations will pick up one more time. Let's go to the Kansas City Chiefs. Now who Mahomie and friends? So that game is on the road. Arrowhead stadium, tough place to play. It's at Arrowheads. Yeah, L right there, Yeah, that's a that's a tough one there. So you've got that. Then there's the Thanksgiving Day game against the Raiders. So here it is back to back games in the uh

AFC West, that's the division they're playing this year. So you got the Raiders at home. You gotta win that. You gotta win. You have to win that. What I'm nervous about. I'm nervous about Waller because our in our interior coverage last year between our linebackers and safety, it was it was suspect it will subspect that best. And I know we got some new talent in there. We got you know, we got Parsons and there we got Cox, those guys that have a little bit more fluid hips

than Jalen and Lve. But Waller special man. And if he goes out there and starts to torch our middle of our defense, I can see that one being a long game. So I want I got it as a w But if I'm playing Spade, that's that's a possible. That's a possible. L right, right, Well, we all know they're all possible. Yeah, in this league, and then of course we know they got Jacob's the big running back for vegans, so so that's obviously Turkey Day Thursday game.

Then they come back one week later with another Thursday game. This time though, you got to take the short trip down to New Orleans to face the Saints. Um breeze, we don't know who and what they will be December six. You know that, you know, we don't know who and what they this organization, what this team will be. Will Winston be that thirty interception guy or you know that year behind breeze and under you know Sean Payton's tutelage. Will he be able to turn it around? But we'll

he'll well, we'll hell he'll he'll be come come December. Second. That's one I don't know what against and now here to me is the real wild card of this seventeen game season. Um, as you start to get into the last five year, Okay, so you start a Week fourteen with the Washington football team. That's a road game, so you've got that. Then it's another road game in the

NFC East against the Giants. Okay. Then you turn around and you've got a game day after Christmas December twenty six on Sunday Night Football against the Washington football team. Then you host Kyler Murray in the Arizona Cardinals, and you go on the road to end the season at Philadelphia. So the last five games three road games. All three of the road games are in the NFC East, with four NFC East games in the last five. How you start and how you close is gonna, to me tell

you a whole lot about the season. But these first five and the last Yeah, it's these last five that's gonna be a tough stretch. That's gonna be stef especially with that added game. I mean, the bye week is so early in the season. It's week seven, so you're talking about a whole eleven weeks of straight football for these guys, no type of break. So that's that's that stretch you're talking about. That last five is gonna be

extremely important for the division. And I mean it's just gonna be important for these gas period because Washington Football team, to me, I think they improved the most in our division, so I think they're gonna be an extremely hard team to beat, and we got them twice within these last five games. So obviously, ESPN, whoever makes these schedules, they they know, they they know who's gonna come down into the nfcas I think it's gonna come down to Washington

and Dallas as well. But that that last five stch of games, it's gonna be tough man. Three away games, two home games. Two of those two of those games are it gets your division rival. So it is gonna be a tough stress for these boys. First five you gotta set the tone. Last five, you gotta go ahead and finish strong and hopefully we're healthy at that time.

I mean, as we've seen it, you need a death, you need your death, and you need your rookies to come up here not be rookies come the end of December. And in those first two weeks of January. Let's take another break here, you brought up a former Cowboy player. Should you bring this player back for the defensive backfield? Let's dive into that next. Right here on the players lounge, he's buried Church, former Cowboys safety or Newi Scruggs, longtime

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Hopefully he is back with us next week. Speaking up back with us, how about the topic you raised, Jeff Heath cut by the Raiders, now out on the open market, and you are saying, maybe bring him back. Yes, this is because you're not talking about Jeff Heavey. Is the camera on me real quick? Cbe he put the camera the goats. We talk about the goats Heath right now, and it's hum about just you know, your average safety. We're talking about the goat heat. He could run forever,

all right. This guy is still young. I think he's twenty nine years old. And look to me, you bring him in here. He's one of the smartest safeties matter, one of the smartest players I've ever been around. He will pick up the playbook like that. So it ain't like it's a it's gonna be a you know, development. We gotta get this guy in. You gotta learn a playbook, all that stuff. He'll pick it up like that. And this guy is way more athletic than a lot of

people give him credit for. He was always that offseason award winner when it came to, you know, Mike Woisick doing these offseason awards for the most in shape or or you know, the best time and all that stuff. He was always in the top three when it came to speed, strength, athleticism, all that. This dude is an unbelievable athlete, smart guy, and he plays the game the right way. So for me, I'm saying, bring the goat

Heath back. No disrespect to Kazy, but I think Jeff Heath, a healthy Jeff Heath is better than a Kazy coming off for the torn achilles one year have for the torn achilles. So for me, I think it's a no brain you're bringing the Goat back. He's not like he's gonna break your bank out there. He'll probably hit you for the same thing CAZy, maybe a little bit more, but he's not gonna break the bank out there. You

bring this guy in. If you don't think he's gonna be a starter, you know for sure he's gonna produce on your special teams. He's not too big of a guy to be like Nah, I'm I don't need special teams no more. He can do it all for you. I don't know why there's not more conversation going on about this. We gotta bring this guy in. I think it's only a positive and I think it'll be an upgrade for this defense overall, because like I said, I think him being healthy is better than a torn achilles CAZy.

So for me, there's no question. Bring the goat heath back to the d back to the secondary. We need him back there. Okay, So I come back into and I'm gonna I've been I've set it, so I'm gonna keep on saying it. Casey knows the defense, Casey has trust. They know him, So it's something to just as you talk about it. Keep that in mind and you you play. You know how coaches are now? Coaches like their guys. Yeah, yeah, they like their guys and guys who who you know?

They when you're super Bowl with this guy. So okay, now let's let's look at just in terms of safeties, you got Donovan Wilson, got Kazy, you got Izzy like Izzy, you got jay Ron Curse, you got Darren Thompson. Now you're gonna bring in Heath. Yeah, a couple of them guys. Gotta go. Dren Thompson, you got to go. You know, I mean we just listen to six safeties. Yeah, there are times he gonna had to go. Um, who is he can stay? I like what I saw so far from Curse, you got to go. I mean he could come.

He could come in here and do the same thing Curse could do, but on the better level. Special. Okay, Okay, so you got to go. Uh, Darian Thompson, you got to go. Kazy if you bring in if you bring in Heath and get him up to speed. I know, I know these coaches, they love their guys, and this probably won't happen because you know, Dan Quinn loves his guys, and you know Kazy and Ky. I don't know, so

it probably won't happen. But to me, if I'm sitting there, if i'm Will McClay, I'm looking back and I'm bringing the Heath guy, I'm saying, Casey, you can go, I mean, it didn't like his contract was that, you know, boisterous to where all, we cannot let this guy go. He's making too much money. So I just just had to

throw it out. And I don't know if him being if Casey's knowing the defense, I understand it will help the secondary, get the secondary lined up, but you know, I don't know if it's gonna put you know, if it's if it's that big to where he can you know, help line up the linebackers and the defensive, He's not gonna be able to help all those guys out. It's just a secondary back, all right, And bring up another You just spoke about Tyler Coyle number thirty nine. Yeah,

I hit Rockie Camp today. I'll add another layer into this. Just conversation about what you're saying. Heath is a veteran. It's going to cost you. What do we know they're trying to do. They keep talking about, you know, they want some discounts. He will set you for what Casey to me, I think what a Casey hit for it. I think he got like one point one or something like that. One. So anyway, I just I'm just I'm just I'm just merely throwing it out here as we

have the conversation. If you want to bring it heat. This is a crowded This is a crowded room. Some cats got to go. We talk about they keep talking about competition, but in you Oh, by the way, if you're Jeff Heathen, you come here, you want some guarantees, Yeah you can get you want some guarantees. So anyway, this is this is It's an interesting conversation, interesting conversation. I think overall, I think he would match up better

than CAZy. But what the one thing that Casey has over him, like you said, is he knows the price. And so I feel like dan Quinn would go to bat for Kyzy more than he would go to bat for Heath. Can I also put this out here about Casey. Happen when healthy? This guy gets turnovers. He's a he was a tenorrible machine. I'll give you that. He had tenor picks. He was flying all over the place. This

is that Achilles. I understand. I understand that this is what we've heard the head coach consistently preach about all season long. We need turnovers, We need turnovers. If you Dwinn's got a guy who can do this. And the reason you got him was because he's hurt. If he's not hurt, probably still with a Falcons, or he's somewhere with a better deal than what he got here. Yeah, and and so did hess Did he impress you that

much when we played against him? I don't think anyone when we played against Atlanta, Okay, I see this, both defenses were bad. Yeah, look at the score of the game. Yeah, the defense was good. He was a part of that. Terrible secondary at either team was good. I mean, but you look, you brought in Dan Quinn to run your defense, the dude coach of a team that was bad defensively. So that's what got me nervous about the whole years.

So yeah, and um, you know, is there a hypocrisy there? Yeah, there's a lot of hypoxic is it trying to act like, well, did he did? You see the Atlanta game? Dan Quick coach? You know what happened. He was a part of that. What happened was, you know, he was good in Atlanta. You know that's he was good at Seattle. He was good at All he has to do is focus on defense. He's done, man, He'll bring it, you know, min minus that, minus that second half against the Patriots, they almost wont

to Super Bowl. I hope that fifteen minutes away from getting that ring, he was that guy. What happened was so yes. I mean, it's it's the constant thing of what we're doing or trying to think about what about this? One? About that? But that is what it is. It is what it is, what it is. But it's going to be interesting. So you brought up Jeff Heath here, all right, another topic you you would approach here. Kelvin Joseph, the second round pick out of Kentucky, checked him out a

little bit at camp today. He's got hands, got hands, He's got some hands here. But the potential of him starting to me, I don't see just from watching today, Just from watching today, I don't see him as being a day one starter. Yes, he has good hands, he had. He doesn't have as good as feet as um. I keep butchering his name Israel, but I was called him Israel from now where is he? I don't want to

say his last name on Bushelm. He doesn't have his great his feet, but his hands and everything like that are very solid. The reason I don't see him being a Day one starters because he has the same body type or same build as the Nickels we already have here. I don't see him. I know he did it on in college he was outside, but in the league it's

a lot different. I don't see him having that body type to be able to transition to the outside corner as well as a as a Trayvon Diggs did, or as well as a Pat short team might do in Denver. I think he's more suitable for that interior that that that nickel, that nickel position, which we already have Jordan Lewis, we already have Anthony Pack. What's that? What's going on? Go ahead, you're in Cheeto out there. This is true. We saw the results of that. That's why I don't

want my GUYO Chee. The guy was it was in the number previous and just didn't have success, like the dreaded number twenty seven. Like I don't know, I will never dawn in a Jersey where the guy but previously he just didn't have it, like I'm not known that. So maybe he doesn't start, and I'll keep holding this up. It's seventeen games, Yeah, it'll be a great depth. So at some point in time he's going to play. Uh that's your hope that he can stay healthy and play.

All right. Um, so that's the cowboy things we wanted to get to, Like when when we talk about dan Quinnon, what he wants for this defense or does he not want that same type of body type that Sherman, that browner that was long lanky, that seemed like we've got all nickel bodies outside of Treyvon did all right, So this is another thing you got to kind of come back to the two guys. You were one of the two guys you were hoping to get. Both guys got

got so horns or Tanner gone. The Georgia corner they were looking at right out the gate, Jacksonville takes him and round two. So you were getting the list was getting short. This is true. So the list was getting short, and so the Raiders jumped in front of the Cowboys and they took Trayvon Marring of TCU, and people like, oh, that's who the cowbirys gonna take the Cowboys. No, we were,

we were taking the corner. So so when you by the time you get to Joseph, you know it's it's like it's you know, it's one fifty in a club. That's all that club. You know who looking good? Now? Hey, hey girl, now be meeting it. Talk to you all night long. You waited to the last minute. Yeah, let's let's get a little let school to some pizza right after the game at your club. Here, I mean, but

that's where you are. So so here you are. This was you know, when you're going down your list of guys, they liked he was a guy that he you know he was when the last week, Hey, it's one fifty the club, the corner got to close. You better if you gotta get money, you better get out spend your game to everybody. Okay, So so because this has five eleven here, but that's generous that that might be generous.

So I'm just saying this is this is what it now is They talked about, you know, he'll compete and do all these things. So we'll see. But you know, no, it wasn't perfect at this point in time, but they they keep talking about they like his intangibles, they like who he is. So we'll see translates, we'll see kids. But can you play a five eleven five ten corner?

You can um be a dog. It's not perfect out there, so you know, well we'll see yeah, And this is the this is gonna be the BDIA camp when they talk about competition on we have these OTAs and these because because we need to see it. So that's it. So that that is you know, this is once you know, it's never perfect, it's never it's never gonna be perfect. But that that was the thinking and where they went to. And you know, speaking of perfect, um, the situation in

Green Bay is far from perfect. And I want to make sure we hit on that with Aaron Rodgers because you and I haven't talked to you on the Player's Lounge about this at all. And I don't understand how Mark Murphy who runs the pack, they don't have an ownership Mary's Room or something like that. Mark Murphy runs it. So Mark Murphy runs it. Mark Murphy has the GM, Brian Gooda quents here, it's got the head coach, Matt Lafloores here. But Brian is running this thing. I mean right,

but Mark Murphy's running this thing. Everybody's mad at Brian. Now. I don't know if if Brian is the guy who just who decided, Hey man, we're gonna trade up and we're gonna go get Jordan Love. You know, but Mark but Murphy had to know about it. Mark Mark Murphy is a former NFL player with a Super Bowl in Washington. So this is not some guy who doesn't understand football. He knows football. But they have screwed this up at big time. I don't think Jordan can I don't know.

To me, I'm getting the field that Jordan Love can't play or something. Because these guys are They've seen them practice, you've seen them in camp, them on and stuff, and it's like they're they're they're petrified of what Aaron Rodgers got. Is it because Jordan Love just can't play? Or I mean, I understand what Aaron Rodgers brings. M vps's Hall of Famer, hell of a player. But you would think, all right, man, look we drafted, we went, we traded up to get

this guy. If this, if Rodgers is complaining this much, we should just go ahead and get this. But he must not be able to play. Well okay, this is just how I see it. Okay, we don't know because the guy didn't get to play. There were no preseason games, yea, you know, so you go right to the season. You're not giving him any reps. They were competitive and winning all year long, so there was no real need to play him. And Aaron Rodgers rolling on it had an MVP.

He he wasn't trying to make sure he had. Guy got a rep. He's standing over there. That's what that goes back to our play earlier when we're talking about what type of player is Kiano gonna be? Is he gonna be? What I th I got this playboy? Just check out over there. I know we up thirty. Watch this, Jordan, I'm up thirty without my handed off right, you're looking at it. So yes, um, but they have screwed this

thing up. And just the fact that you hear and Aaron doesn't want to play there he wants to get traded in the Packers saying though they don't want to trade him, and then the story by well Rogers wants the GM fired. And look, as far as I'm concerned, you fire the g. I he got to having worked in Los Angeles, I believe in the Magic Johnson thing. So Magic Johnson, uh first year rookie. They go win the NBA Championship with Paul westball I mean, Paul west Head is a head coach. But then west Head got

a little bit too big. He's trying to start telling anybody would do a magic that man trade me. I don't play for him anymore. And Jerry busts only, yeah, fired, you're fired. So he fired him. He made Jerry west the head coach. Jerry west Man, I don't want me to head coach, give it to pat Riley. And they moved on, moved on, and it was people got all on magic. They vilified man rung players. But guess what Magic was right? Right, Magic was right. You do not

mess with the guy like Aaron Rodgers. And the other thing for me is what is this is a business? How much money is Aaron Rodgers made the Packers made him relevant after Brett Farm He's made them relevant. And it is just they're always in gotta go player over over over or office right here. You got he is one of the stars of the league. Then to be he's what you don't sit around here and do this to one of the stars. And for me, I people

keep talking about last year's number one pick. Love I said, do you want to talk about the number two pick as well? Because the first two picks that Brian Ludikins made made me shake my yes. And they went and resigned and Aaron Jone Dyland ain't gonna see the field. I was like, you just tracted two dudes who don't help you at all. And that's what Rodgers was saying this whole time. You are, y'all gonna get me some help in here, and and Gludakins just continuously slaps him

in the face with these picks. Even if you took t Higgins who went in the second round to Cincinnati and had a good year there, I mean, you could have helped Aaron Rodgers, but out a doubt. And so here it is. You get to the NFC Championship game, you're at home and you lose. And he talked about how bitter the pill was. I could sit up here say, yeah, man, can I had a little bit more help? Could I

had another weapon here? Um very legitimate arguments that and so for him to feel him and you guys have stubby, I feel true. I want out of here. I get it. I get it. And Green Base screwed this thing up. And look look what it's leaking down to. Its leaking it down now you got DeVante Adams talking about a you know, if if Aaron Rodgers, you know, feels like

he needs to go, you know, separate ways. You know that that that's to me thinking in the future, Well when you on, they're gonna make that move your receiver. It okay, I'm with you, Aaron. I got your back. Yeah, that's what you that's what he should say. I get it, right, I get that. But I mean the end of the day, um, they you're a free agent. They stole that slap that franchise take. He's not sitting out. Aaron can sit around here and sit out. And you know, okay, we got

a problem. Yes, DeVante, you're a great football player. But but no, you know you're not moving you you're not match You can't do this magic Johnson thing like that demanding stuff. No you can't do it. No, you can't be knt Grippy Junior. When he told the Mariners trade me to Cincinnati, he was testing his power, but he just wanted to You're a seed. I mean, haven't we learned from Odell Beckham Junior and all that he wanted went to Cleveland practically vanished off the BA, except when

he played the Cowboys. So he played the Cowboys. He was about to get traded before he played the Cowboy trade and they had had a great game. But oh, he's back. Other topic, your old team. What's you're talking about now, which I know you ain't talking about? My boy? Urban Meyer decided to bring in Tim Tebow to play tight end thirty three years old. Come on, I don't understand it. I don't get it. We're talking about a six year hiatus, not even talking about nine nine us

we're not even talking. Let's not even talk about it. Or right now to the position switch. This guy nine years from his last significant down played in the NFL. We've seen what happened when five years takes off of you, and that was Aldon Smith and he came back to play the same position, the same position, started off great, and then he fell off a cliff because he hasn't played in five years. And it takes a different type of mentality, different type of shape to get into for football.

For you to just jump off your couch and play, it's just not gonna work. So when they say that about Tim Tabo, I'm just like, what, why, what do you think is gonna what do you think this any like he can teach Trevor Lawrence something about the quarterback game. He was never good at quarterback, so they like he can teach him something. Who's he gonna teach at time? He didn't, He's never played the position. Who's he gonna block?

How did you talk about leadership? Leaders I'll tell you right now from experience, the players in that locker room are not gonna sit there and say Tim Tebow's our leader. If he's the fifty third person on the depth chart and he's not getting no playtime and he's not out there, you know, he's not contributing to the team. No one's gonna listen to him. Here're gonna come in there barreling in there doing his little pregame speeches. We gotta do this.

People are gonna look at him like he's crazy, Like Tim, gets this guy out of my face. I'm telling you, no one is gonna listen to the fifty third man on the roster, and that's what Tebow is gonna be if he makes the team. So I just don't understand what is he bringing to the Jaguars right now? What

new he helped me out here? What does he bringing I've heard people try to talk about that whole leadership thing, and I laugh about it because in the National Football League League leadership it comes from people who are playing. They don't come from some dude who's never played the spot. All I can think of is the first time Tim Tebow gets up that line and Nino Brown had a new Jack City. He looked at you, what to consist your five people? Go make Jake Timpty? What's Timpty gonna say?

You know, this isn't Florida, this isn't college football. Many look at that man like he's crazy. And I want to understand from Urban Meyer, can we put twelve fourteen million a year? How do you still not understand? You're gonna hire the strength coach, coach that's got this pass that he got issues with with with with black folk. Then you're gonna go hire Tim Tebow when you've already got guys in the building grinding, trying to sit around

here and make a team. You know, you got dudes or I mean just like you see his rookie can you know and the guys who one or two year guys, guys who are trying to make it, and you're gonna roll his cat in here, roll him in there, and he's gonna make the squads. He even understand which shoulder the block with. He's gonna make us. Gonna see him too though. No, Yeah, we played Jacksonville the preseason, so

jack Ce Tebow playing. So Chris Beam telling us we're gonna see, We're gonna see week four, Week four the preseason. We're gonna get out. Who's he gonna block? Who Michael Parson like a Parson's out there block he's gonna block Dlong Del won't be playing. He won't be playing. He won't be playing. He won't be playing. Maybe maybe Jabill can't play that last same right, maybe Jabrill Jabrill. Maybe he's gonna put hands on Jabrick. If that's another thing.

If you go, if you're a defensive player and you line up against Tebow and he blocks you, come on, you ain't never gonna hear the end of that. You let first quarterback block you. First time that guy makes a catch? You know a guy who go trying to let him up so they get gett highlights highlights who is Tebow route book? Who is gonna get out open against man? The man run probably at his boat for eight. Maybe this is not the problem is people want to

try and correlate him to taste him. He's not taste him Hill, No, okay, he's not. No. And and you've taken nine years off nine years old, it gonna be thirty three years old. And and and this is what Urban Myers. I'm trying to figure I Urbert, what are you doing in Jacksonville that ego? What are you doing? I'm urban? You could bring Tim Tebow in I can change his whole culture. Let me hire this racist weightlifter from Iowa. Let me get him in here. What are

you doing that happen? This is this is professional football, man. This isn't Ohio Status, not Florid, It's not UTAs, it's not Bowling Green Man. You can't this. Guys aren't going to buy into this. And and looks I just feel like guys are gonna go out of their way to light up Tim Tebow without a doubt. You hadn't earned this. You ain't gonna light him go out way to light

him up. Let him catch the ball. Coaches, boy, and you've already I've read reports where you've talked about guys say other coaches are like, what are we doing the coaches' Jackson, what are we doing? Because it's because I could. I could see if he brought something to the quarterback room where he could teach this guys something. But like we said, he hasn't played well at the quarterback position to be able to teach Lawrence something. Leadership. Nobody's listening to a

fifty third person. And I've been fortunate enough to cover some teams where I saw head coaches bring in former players, but the players they brought in could help. When Jimmy Johnson was here, he brought in Alfredo Roberts, who was with him at Miami. Alfredo could play. This is true. You know, you've got to make sure the dudes you bring in can play. When when I was in Cleveland and Bill Belichick was there, he brought in Carl Banks,

he brought in Pepper Johnson. They could play. Play again, the guys he was with with the Giants, they could play. Had the biggest thing. These dudes had to be able to do it. They got to That's the only way people are gonna respect you, because people think just because I mean, I've seen it time and time again where cats will come in here and they think you know, their first round draft pick. But if you can't play, no one is gonna listen to you. No, go back

to parcels when he came here. He brings in Richie Anderson, he brings in Vinnie Testaverdie, he brings in Keyshon. They could all play. If you can't play. Brought in Terry Glenn. Yeah, you can't bring in your You can't bring in your guys if they can't play. Now you're gonna bring in one of your guys. He's never played tight end never, he's thirty three. Man, Come on, what do we do it? I can't wait to see it, though I can't improv. Not hey playing. You got some friends and and it's

not like Jacksonville they needed the sealities tickets. You got Urban Myer there. Tibow is not selling. He's not doing it, So like, what what's the That's why you drafted Trevor Lawrence, It's why you went and got Urban Myyer. You're good, you're good. Give him a coaching to give him one of them you know, coaching gigs where he's you know, he's in the room somewhere as a coach or something like that. But and his his own ego to want to do this, that's what's that's what's why his own ego.

What are you doing? Man? He saw what happened when he guy when he was done with football. Let me go to back and switch sports. Let me go to baseball and be the truth that just didn't happen. All right. That's our players lounge this week at a lot of good stuff. We covered rookie minicamp today. Um, you thought Michael Parsons was a little gas you loved hy um mukamamu fluid six foot four safety out of usc they

took in the sixth rounds. So you like those two guys that you saw there, and you also liked uh Coyle Tyler Correll the other safety out there from produce early. That's my early pick for undrafted to make the team. Okay, if we don't bring the goat back all right, that is Barry Church. That's forty two Cowboys safety our boy um and a running mate. Danny mccraig should be back next week. I'm new he scrubs a long time Cowboys reporter appreciates checking us out right here. All the players

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