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play you by Hotels Doctor. Yes, he is um the jacked up mister mister, the noticed younger version of Ronnie Coleman. Over here. Somebody give us some jack black got a little black. It's all good because these bad boys man shot con and paid you too much to make I'm sorry, excuse for that shot bad I had. I put the I put the palmers. This morning, I will thy baking be hot like the Coo butter be heading me short. Do you you just sweating? This dude I've ever met

in my life. I don't think even more yea, even you remember when he's on the back of the bus. Yeah, I thought you was that and everybody thought I was down. I'm like, du I'm just sweating, y'all. Hop on the bus, Hop on the bus. Were on the way to the game. Rookie rookie. Ye, yeah, this dude, he sweating so bad that tears. Knewman came up there and was like, Church, you are right. I think it was the first game, the first game, the first year, first game, rookie year.

We traveled nothing. We're going to Washington to play Sunday night game. Sunday night game, so you know, first game, undrafted. I'm just glad I made the team. On the way there, I don't know what it was. Something came over me. It's just I started drinking. It was I was like something going on with it. He knew it through me a hoodie man. Wipe yourself off. Man, I don't know what it was. And nothing beat Leon let at the

super Bowl. We'll happening with Leon Rich just the questions everything, poor Leon, you just you just oh it's I've been I mean it was, it was, it was, I mean literally you felt bad for like, Okay, this dude is nervous with the questions. Just not you're not ready for it. But uh, big Cat he made through. Big Cat made it through. Up by the way, Jenny mccraig Church the Scruts. This is the players Longe one full hour football content.

They are former Dallas Cowboys players, both undrafted safeties who made the team. Um, none of us hit reached the levels of Barry where he got the very large bag from shot here we go right about that. I can't believe. I can't believe we do it? Okay, did we lie? So so happy for you man. By the way, speaking of Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Green Bay, New Orleans Saints, those are

your games over in Britain, the UK games. Could we see the Cowboys going over back one more time to h jolly old England to play on the pitch against Jacksonville Tony rum On. Those guys did a couple of years ago, so they can't wait for Church to come back. They go whatever clubs he going to do. I'll do a slight recap, gonna bring it up a little. You know, we went out there. We went out there, and we

had ourselves a hell of a time, all right. I mean I'm talking about they started playing the national anthem where we was at, you know, so it was a good time. I just put it like that. It was a hell of attack so much ya when y'all ordered it, they start, stakes were made. But once you get once you get to that point, it's like it's just like it's one of them situation you everybody gets make it that make it a Guinness round. Now everybody get a fight.

But no, it was just one of those situations. But as far as we're talking about playing over there, I hate it as far as playing because because now they cut it down to where you just go over there from like a Thursday to Sunday. The time difference, I mean, you're practicing. It's just it's just too much on a player, at least what I thought. But I think the Cowboys did it right when they did it back in twenty fourteen, when we went out on a Monday, spent the entire

week there. Nobody got in trouble. You know, it's a veteran team, so nobody got in trouble. But you had to hold a whole week to ackling, make yourself to the time and getting used to practicing on that grass and all the other stuff. So if they do it that way, I'm all for it. But that short weekend, it's just not it, man, just not it, all right, So be on the lookout for that Cowboys against Jacksonville this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see that game

moved there at all. Michael Parsons was on The Rich Eyes and Show last week, and I thought he has some pretty interesting things. One of the things he says is I need to line up with the best. I want to be best on best. Then he talked about Hey, I wanted to be on Deebo Saniel. He says, Minnesota, Hey, I'm out there covering Dalvin Cook. And then against someone like Mahomes, he says, put me against their left tackle,

their rights or their right tackle. I'll pass rush. Your thoughts on what Michael Parsons wants to be and how he wants to be used. I'll tell you this, Okay. I love the way Michael Parsons plays, I love his ability, I love his talent, but that is not the way to be successful. Okay, yeah, that is not the way to be successful. All right. What you do when you're specifically pass rushing is you find the weak link and then you go and get that one on one against

that player. You don't say, man, I want to go out there against Trent Williams every rep. That's not the way to be successful. If you want to get them stats in those sacks. To be a difference maker, you find the weak link of guy that you can take advantage of, and you go out there and you embarrass him, and you get your sacks, you get your forced fumbles,

and you make that type of stuff happen. All right, if you're able to right the defensive coordinators when they see guys like Deebo Samuel and they see guys like Dalvin Cook, smart defensive coordinators do not put their players in one on ones against those guys. They find a way to make sure that you're in an advantageous position when you get a Dalvin Cook coming out of the flatter running those type of routs. Right, no matter how talented talented you are, you want to make the game easy.

You want it to you want it to happen slowly, not being those personal situations every snap. All right, So I love them. I love his competitive nature, but that ain't the way that we should use Michael Parsons. That's not the way that that's gonna help our defense be the best defensive it could be. You know, I think you hand up a right on that d Mac. You gotta work smarter, not harder. And look, I love Michael

Parsons and what he brings to the table. I mean his energy, his ferocity, just his passion for the game. Like I said before, it reminds me a lot of Dez Brian how he goes out there and handles his business. And I'm sure he could be successful if he went out there and win against these guys each every snap. He would win a couple of those battles, because you know,

he's that good of a player. But if you want to make an impact each and every game and be that guy and be that dominant guy, you gotta line up with these matchups. I mean, like you said, Mac, you don't want to go against a Trent Williams each and every snap. You don't want to go against one of these hor of fame tackles each and every snap. You want to get your easy pickings too. He looked at d Ware when we had him earlier in our

in the career. That's all they did was put him, whether it's the weakest tackle on that side, if there's a week guard or a week center, they put him inside, blitzing him in there. They didn't always just line him up the one side to where teams can just sit there and say, all right, we're gonna focus our line on that side, and he might open up some things for other people on the other side. But this guy won't be successful. He won't make that impact of the game.

So with me with Parsons, I love his tenacity. I love how he does this game and how he goes out there and has that passion for it. But if you want to be that dominating guy, sometimes you have to take you know, these weaker link guys and make them look foolish out there and get your start to You're not a cornerback, okay type of dude saying that type of stuff and they go out there and they

get the cover best on best. That is an entirely different situation then you being able to run through a Dalvin Cook or run through a Trent Williams and have to worry about what they're gonna do. Right, all of a sudden, you rushing Dodvin Cook and he running the screen and you got them man to man. All of a sudden you're like, oh, man, well now you gotta worry. Right, He's this thing for you to do is go find that that weak link and beat those dudes on the

screen and make a sack force fumble. So smart enough, harder, But I believe DQ is in the right position. With him in the right position, we saw them, We saw that throughout the entire year, that he took advantage of those matchups thirteen sacks, three forced fumbles, eighty four tackles for the unanimous NFL Rookie of the Year. Who wants more and wants to be the best. And to me, that's the biggest thing I took out of the conversation

was he's not done. Also, he spoke about the playoff loss. Richard, I see that's the great question. What happened m He talked about they thing said, they felt the pressure, and he said, I want to go into make an excuses. But also the first thing he brought up with your thank brought up the penalties. Brought up the penalties, and he said, too many on third down, which you know, you know, you guys played the game. The third down.

Third down is where you where the game has made one of the loss on third and five and you stop them and you're thinking, I'll punt you and it's ready, let's go, let's go plus safe, and then you see that yellow flag out there. It's it's the more allowing, especially if you're like on that fringe zone at fifty yard line and you stop on third down, then they get a whole new set of downs to get back

and feel the man. It's it's depressing, man. It takes a lot out of you, especially because if it's self inflicting, like outside down you come on, bro, and you in the hu you hold like, look, they're gonna try to draw us off. Just hold your waters. And there's always that one guy that wants always I had to get a jump on it. No, you didn't, mans, again, Kelly, he was, he was. That was the classic Miranilly thing, like not get him out of here, he would do

his little kid. So, how does Mike McCarthy go about fixing that? I mean, this is this is this was a tragic issue of last year's football team was the penalties, and he talked about correcting it in the offseason. He said during the year that it wasn't uncommon for his teams to have high penalty rates because they're changing the program. So from whatever was Jason Garrett to him and he's

so he that was his kind of rationalization. Off sizes offside ain't all sizes outside Okay, it's it's we always talked about this. On defense, there are some penalties. They're just effort penalties and they just happen. Right. Sometimes you might get a hand to the face. Sometimes you might get a face mask if you might be reaching out, and sometimes you know, if your hand might those are something that you can like, all right, listen, we get it, all right. You go on as hard as you can.

And that type of stuff happened. Maybe one of those those hitters on the quarterback where everybody's like, man, that's super requestible, like what else is he supposed to do? But when you got thirty five and you jumping off side and that's something that's consistently happened happening, those are things to where your team has to be disciplined enough. One, your players need to be focused enough when they get out there not to make those things, make those mistakes.

But then coaching, you have to make sure you work on those situations while you're out there on the field. Hardcount has to be something that has done every snap, every practice until you find out that your team knows that that is coming and you do not jump outside. Right. Yeah, It's all about attenion to detail. I mean, especially if you're a defensive lineman. You're looking at the football. You know, it's not like okay, I'm I'm this. You're looking at

the football to see when it snapps. So you gotta have that attention to detail, situational awareness to realize, all right, if I jump off side in this situation, how's it gonna affect my team or how's it gonna you know, get does it have that team being able to extend the drive? I mean, those are little things you got to think about, especially on the defensive line. And the penalty like that where you can control all of it, like Danny said, you can't control sometimes with a face

mask or defensive pass interference, it's a judgment call. But if you can sit there and look at the ball and you're still jumping off side, that's a problem. You gotta have attention to detail. Randy Gregor is holding like that, Like those are things where you say, man, guys, that's a lack of focus in that moment. A frustration. So it's frustration like those are things that you can work on.

You talk to those specific players or you put them in those positions and you say, this is how like, see what just happened at this point, right, all of a sudden, and sometimes it didn't even happen. We used

to be so mad at coaches. Right, JJ would come out there and then it'll be an incomplete pass on third and whatever, and the defense think we want and he'd be like, oh no, we gotta pass interference right, just to show you the impact that that would have if you do commit one of those penalties in those situations, and you know, most of the time he worked out right, You see how angry somebody is, right, and then you get one of the leaders come in and say, hey man,

we got to tighten up right, And then it also helps you say this is now it's time for us to refocus. Okay, may have been a BS call, but now it's time for us to refocus and get back on track. But that was My next question was just and you guys, performer players, what's said in the room when you see these alarm I mean we're talking about him ten leven, twelve. I mean, these penalties were crazy to be cowboys were getting them. I think it depends

on who's getting these peneties. Now, if it's like a guy like a you know, a situational guy that comes in every now and then and and he's costing the team penalties like that, and then of course he's gonna get jumped on pretty bad. Um. But if it's like a d law or like you know, Randy Gregory or somebody like that, that's that's causing these penalties, they should get, you know, get on or get attacked just like this other guy did. But I'm telling you it doesn't happen

that way. Okay, now, and I'm not trying to pick on them, but let's he had some moments where where teams are going out Anthony Brown in a game look like Thanksgiving, where they're going out a guy like that and you know, boom, they're just happening like that. Is there anything set amongst players or or during the games that put on coaches and then after the game? Is

anything set? No? I think in a situation where you have a guy like Anthony Brown at the start of the season, even us we're like, oh, man, like we're not sure what's going on. But then you got guys who throughout the season show you that they have the ability to cover guys without making those mistakes. Cornerbacks specifically have a harder time than anyone, right because the position that you play and the way that the game has changed,

those type of situations are going to happen. Right. You'd be like, I didn't even do anything to this dude, and it's a passing efference. If you go back and look at some of the stuff that he was called for, some of it is questionable, right, And the players and

the coaches see that. So sometimes you see a coach coming to the locker room and say, man, we get it, Like we understand, but you just gotta find a way, right, you gotta find a way, and you can tell the tone of the coach when he knows like they ain't really none we could do about it. And then some situations you gotta go back out there when you're doing when you're watching them do one on ones, you got that's when you see it. Hey, make sure you focus

on not grabbing the jersey. All right, we want to see you make it consist of a concerted effort not to grab the jersey because this is what they continue to call you for. Yeah, I think it's definitely got to be you know, on the coaches to help correct that guy and get them in the right direction. We talked about Anthony Brown. I definitely think it's you know, Joe Whitten. Those guys got to come together and say,

all right, this is what they're calling you for. You may want to, you know, slack off on this a little bit or make an adjustment here with that. But I don't think it's a lot of players coming and saying, hey, you got to do this. That the third because if you're a corner, you know what's a D line gonna come over to you and say, hey, you better get your feet right. You better stop holding you or a

line back, Hey, you better get underneath that. You can't like, no, you gotta you know it's it's I think it has to come down to the coaches, and I think that's where the players respond better with the coaches talking to them rather than another player coming and say you better get right. So McCarthy likes to use working point of emphasis, so this will be a point of emphasis for the

Cowboys going to the offseason. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones clearly was upset after season about the penalty and he basically said, we saw this happen week one. Why why why did this happen all year long? And I think that's a legitimate point made by the owner. There's some people out there the like don't don't like it, you don't want the owners say thing. But to me, the owner is saying really what the fans are saying, and people in the the meeting a saying like, why is it this being

corrected here? Because it is costing you games and we saw it in a playoff game cost you and and to be fair, some stuff you just can't correct because some of it is just the caliber of the player that you have, Like when we were watching our left guard the left side of the line, and you say, man, these these type of things are happening. Sometimes you just get ran through and you gotti grab to protect your quarterback.

So sometimes it's the discipline of the players based off how the coaches are coaching them, and sometimes it's just hey man, some players just aren't good enough not to put themselves in that situation. So do you think it's y'all think I'm an ash all this? Do you'll think

it's more of an accountability issue like that? Out of one issue where we're talking about Randy Gregor, I think it was a playoff game, like a third and five, and he just randomly just went out there and tire on the offensive linemen, like he tackled a guy out of frustration. Maybe because he wasn't making a lot of plays out there, I'm not sure, But do you think that's more of an accountability issue, like man, you know

damn with these coaches say I'm gonna do me? Or do you think it's just, hey man, he just had a brain far I think I think it was a brain for I think it was one of those those those lack lack of judgment in that situation which we've all had. Right when you see guys something, a lot of times you don't get called for, but you might go push a guy in the bag, or you might tell mess a little bit too much and you might

not get called for. But when you get back to the huddle and you and you and your teammates are telling you, hey, bro, you gotta calm down with that, right then, you know you had one of those lack of judgment moments. And I think that was what Randy Gregory had in that moment. I don't think that's anything you can coach. You can't be out there and be like, hey bro, no, hey, we're gonna run this player, don't

grabble right like. You just gotta tell you brother, come on you better than that that old line you would hear coaches say either you're coaching or you're letting that happen. But he's they're telling them. One he knows that he messed up to somebody's going to tell him. But that's not something that you take out there and you put in the script and say all right, hey, come on bro, because one, you know, that's not being coached. So they

don't even know where they came from right. They just know that he was out there and he just he just made a mistake, a bad decision. Yeah, so there's no fear of hey, man just cost us a third down that we gotta run out there again. We just know it's a fear. But I mean, I don't stop. You know, you had a lack right people. People get in situations to where their emotions takeover. Is emotional game.

And as long as it's something where if he did that the next play, then yes, that's like all right listen. So so let me ask you this. I'm sorry with you, Barry. What is your faith that Mike McCarthy can't get this fix going into twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty two, I'm gonna say I'm gonna give him. I'm gonna give him a six out of ten thinking that he can change this just because he has a more veteran team or than he had in the past. So I think he give him a benefit. I think he needed it,

maybe a six out of ten. The reason I don't think it's a ten out of ten is because you know, I feel like Mike McCarthy. I'm not saying he doesn't really do much. But when he's on the sidelines, it just it's to me like I never see him going out there, Hey, come over here, let me talk to you for a second. I never see him that is. It's always the coordinators doing something. He's just over there

kind of sitting there like this, not saying that. You know, he doesn't make adjustments on half time or anything like that. But I just really don't see him getting after people when they make mistakes during the game, say he's not doing much by saying he's not okay, all right now. Lit So, defensively, I think ultimate faith in dan Quinn. I think he's going to be able to find some of those situations. Put him on whatever vision, on the on Quinn vision, what about McCarthy and let him That's

what I'm saying. Defensively, this is why I'm gonna give an eight out of ten, because I think that dan Quinn is going to handle his defense. Offensively is where you're going to have to figure out how you get some of this stuff fixed. And that starts to me

with the offensive line. All right, So I think you're gonna see some new guys coming here on the offensive line because I do think that the lack of ability that we had specifically on our left side, calls some of the those penalties for you your footwork, maybe you're not big enough, maybe your anchor is not right, and then all of a sudden, you're bad. Offensive line plays turn into two penalties that you shouldn't be getting. So I think bringing some new players in, I think that's

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to get him out with his gold on. You know I found covering Dan actually bottom up shiny on ahead. Ain't that that? Keep it low? He need the brushes. It must hurt, he must be, he must So this is the player. So damn Craig very Church to restruct So as as teammates, can you crack off these guys considering in the basketball realm, you know they are you know, dude, he getting talked about, He getting talked about, talked, He getting talked about, get airtime aaradtime they posted his meme

and they zoom in on him or something. Somebody said they over the giggling man. Yeah, they said, looking, I mean, and then you see the one time I think what was before, you know, he had to treat He had to treatment, but I think he missed a couple of

weeks on or something. He had the head in, he had the headband, so I think his headband got knocked back during the game one time and he put your guy and laughing, put your head banging down, Lebron, He's oh, snap on my back and now you know what I feel him because when I first started shave in my head, I wouldn't go nowhere without it, you know, the little thing on my head, or so I didn't want nobody knowing. For some reason, I was playing against the Seattle Seahawks.

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It was kind of that was kind of like, okay, you went over the line because he was one of the ones that was jokes in the locker room. You got the fresh shaved church. Oh, I wish I was in that locker room when he got the fresh sha It does okay, you know, and then't the money and that football made him put that thing on yeah the como. No no, no, but oh you can't. You can't code that much. You ken't code that much. But Breeze doing to him. I didn't think breeze hair was like that.

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like about you. Oh damn. You know. Like the over girl came up to me and she works so saying for Doling, Doling, What are you gonna do about that? She's talking about money, great man, so sods like that. Dude, dude, she told me to stop wearing the pinch dripe. She too fat for the pinch dripe. She just English. Lady, come up, just stab you or hurt your feelings. Man, I ain't seen you in no pripe. Remember that the brother I threw suits away, Like you know I pay

for this? Who you talking all right, So I'm gonna pull us on out here. Something going a goody bag. So a lot of this wasn't playing neither, so let me see what do we puddle about it? This is brown Jael, So I said, I got grays right here. So she's like, Darling, what are you going to do? So before I going there in the trade, but the tricks of trade looking from so far, Yeah, look at that altar, the little altar story and he could just wash it out. Yeah, man, So that's that's what I

do before I go on TV. Man, So I ain't even realize that you have had no gray on TV right there. So yeah, this is what I'm growing, the low one because I was just super Bowl. But yeah, man, so I just put it on just like that. She's like, Darling, Darling, what are you doing? I can't believe it? All tricks in the trade out of him one little grade here,

I'm gonna go far down. Now here's what you don't want, you know, you want you to find yourself out here, Like Rudy Giuliani, I hear sweating like ink spots all down on you know. You know that that Carlos Bouger used to have that spray paint hairline. So that's that's just one of the things that so so when I saw Drew Brill, okay, but I got it. Man, They get us all over there. Man ain't telling you. So at some point in time, you got to figure out how you do you want to live in your truth

or you try to do what they tell you to. Dude, took me. It took me a while before I was like, you know what, damn, but I'm a ball man, you know what I'm Later it told me a little bit. So for me, the whole ball thing was never a big deal because you know, growing up in North Carolina. Well, Mike, what's Michael Jordan did it? It was fine, And a lot of people don't know Michael's first year, he was a sophomore, shaved his head, came up with this lie.

Well I just wanted to wash away last year or what happened was he was he was pleasant, he was online, he was online, so they all had to get it off. So that was a lie he told. And then I think what says his first maybe it's his second year. There's a black haircare product company North Carolina called Dudley, so he was doing Dudley haircare products. His hair fall out.

That's how that's how he lost his head. He was uting done the hair care right, and then he just just shaved it all off because people like, man, what what I mean what Lebron got. Michael was kind of even worse because it was Michael hair. And that was back when he wanted to have hair and it was no social media. But his hair was just falling out, man like it clumps, and then he just shaved it off. And that's how he got to be what he was. And so then it was just like cool to do,

cool thing to do. He had paid Dulas some money get their products right, but they got the Baldi ready. But he had had the beanie caps on. You know that. You know, Michael Jackson was ball till he was dead. I didn't know what you just said, Mike Jackson. But it was a wig the whole time. Mike Jackson, dude ain't had no hair. Yes, what do you talk about? You talk about Mike jack No no nose, no hair. There was a whole bunch of stuff for my Michael's

artificial man. Mike, look at his head. Okay, first off, look at his hair towards the end of his life. I mean it was kind black people. You know, look like that Snoop at the Super Bowl. Okay, Snoop got hair. Okay, Snoop got here, Michael Snoop ol he deceive even cats because his joint though his drags don't really start to like right head. So when you got that much money, you're gonna be able to import and do a whole But Snoop, Snoop, he got that like the like the

mixed grade type of hair. Though it's not you know, it's snok you got when you got that much money, you can import and touch it up. So you say, Snoop hair of faith. I would say Snoop might have some help, some help at that age. You know, we get a little help at that age. A start doing this weave stuff and look you got you got this image up hold you know, so I can see Snoop he got that, see it, I can see it here, I can see it. Plays last, let's get into the

offensive line. Because with the first pick in the first round, the cabin was the number twenty four overall, and judging by social media, there is a huge amount of Cowboy Nation that wants an offensive tackle or a guard. They want the offensive line of dressing. Daniel Jeremiah NFL dot Com does the show Moving the Sticks of Bucky Brooks.

Good Good Podcast. Listen at this stat In the last five Super Bowl winning teams, twenty five starters on the offensive line, three were home grown first round picks, and its point being, look, just make sure you don't have trash out there. That said, find some good players. But just that's pretty outstanding. I mean, to me, that's a pretty interesting number. Twenty five starters last five Super Bowl winning teams, only three of them were taken in the

first round. That's interesting, I mean because at homegrown and homegrown by the way, home grown by the way. That's that's guys, just wanted to get your thoughts. But that don't meaning they ain't gonna do with us. Line ain't gonna had nothing to do with us, all right, because we've seen that our ability to make it to the Super Bowl, right, you gotta get there first before you can put be on that stat line, all right, And what held us back oftentimes this year was our offensive

line play. Either it was ability on the offensive line or availability on the offensive line. So you gotta get there before you can talk about the stat of what happens once you're in the super Bowl. We need to get there first, and the first thing we need to do is get back to when we had the dominant offensive line, all right, when people used to fear playing against us because of what our offensive line could do to them, change the entire game, mood, the line of skirmage.

We can control the clock based off what our offensive line was able to do. And until we get back there again, we're gonna keep running into the same wall. Yeah, you understand, and I'm which we gotta address. Um, you know, the left guard position. We gotta address that officive line overall.

But even when we had you know, the great, the best offensive line for that span whatever it was from you know, twenty twelve to twenty sixteen, we only won one playoff game, you know that that whole entire time. So we had the best officive line, we had the best running back and either DeMarco or Ezekiel Elliott. We had a great running running game. But we still want to be able to get over the hunt. We're in that same position, even if with the bad offensive line

we had this year. So I'm with you, I think we need to address God, Dresice, come kinda with you. I think we need to address this. I'm just not saying that the officive line, having a supreme officive line automatically guarantees us going far in the playoffs. So no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. But when when you have everything that you have, and the weak link of our team this year is what as you think it's gonna be our defense, and our defense shows up and what you need in order

to run. We're not running the ball, but if you're if you're running the ball, then you want your office allowing to be great and then you get gonna throw the ball as much as you are. Then you need a great pass, pass setting offensive line. And I think that's something that held us back this year, you know, along with penalties. It wasn't just the only thing, but

the longer penalties and all that stuff. But I feel like our best shot is to make sure that we have a more than decent offensive line and guys who are available. Let me ask you this, would you rather solidify an offensive line, you know, whatever we got to do in that first round, solidify that or with a lot of the pieces leaving on defense. Put some more capital, whether it's drafts, re agency towards that defensive the defensive efforts, so we can have that same type of It wasn't

top ten, but it was extremely productive defense. Would you rather have have the resources on that side or fix that offensive line? Can't? I think? Okay? Just to start, I think it depends on who we lose on defense. I think it depends on who we lose, all right. If you start losing Tank and Randy and later Vandera's, then you have to put some resources to your defense. You have to because you just can't leave them out

to drive like that. All right. It was a big part the pass rush and our ability to pressure the quarterback helped our secondary be able to play the way that they played and get those interceptions and get those turnovers. So you can't just leave them out to drive. But our offensive line needs to be fixed. So if I'm if I'm looking, if I'm ranking them priority offensive line, and then I'm going, uh, those defensive pieces, looking at the All Pro the best of the best this year.

The offensive line spot um just kind of go through the first and second team guys. Left tackle Trent Williams first round draft pick deserved. Rashaun Slater, first round draft pick, second team left tackle, left guard, Joe Patonio, Cleveland UM second round pick Quentin Nelson, Um second team's first rounder, first rounder Jason Kelsey center with Philadelphia fifth round pick um Corey Lindsay, the second team All Pro center for

the Chargers. Round pick right guards Zack Martin, first round pick. White Teller of Cleveland would say he was a he is a fifth round pick, so you got him, and then over at the right tackle position, Tristan Worths of Tampa Bay, first round pick. Them tackles in the first round, them tackles in the first round. Johnson, the first round pick. Yeah, you gotta have that talent on the side, at least the guards of fifth rounders, the tackles they got here playing.

So hey, look look, I mean I can sit up here and just you know, I'm just saying you this context. Now you gotta say, you see, you did fifth rounders, but a lot of them dudes was guards. Every time you said first help one hours later, it was tin it was it was. But you know it's how I gave you the whole thing, trying to spend that tried to hide it. Yeah, got to hide it. And he's like, oh wait, oh, wait, ta another tackle in the first because what you were trying to say, what they don't

have to be drafted in the first one. I didn't, but the All Pro list shows you that those tackles are usually drafted in the first But what I wanted to do was like, Okay, let's look at the All Pro lestens, see what's here, and then okay, okay, gate will happen? Can you get a premier tackle at twenty four? Like, can you get one of those? Yes, the Saint Scott The Saints got that m ramsack Ryan Rama, they got

him late. I think it depends on the needs of the teams and how many quarterbacks available, how many the court once the quarterback market, you know, if you get three four, then yeah, you know you can have the opportunity. So so basically, if you get those, you know, the quarterbacks, you get a draft of quarterbacks, some pass rushers up there, and you know, people fall in love with the receivers.

You can see some of these linemen drop down. Um, but but there's you know, look, there's no doubt man, what they've done right here in terms of this all pro team. Okay, okay, okay, you got to invest, you got to invest, you know, and then we think about Trent Williams. You don't have to be homegrown at that point because you got a guy who was in Washington and then now he's in San fran But is absolutely just that just shows you how bad that franchise is. I mean, how does a guy like that get away?

That man said, I'm not playing. That's how you got out. I retire. He held and he said, you know, you misdiagnosed me. I don't like how it was, don't trust you the more, and I'm done. But that's just that's just that's just one reason why Washington struggled too much. I mean, you can't let a Hall of Fame type talent like that get out to do over this and it's prime. This guy goes over here in San Francisco and you know, help help make them all pro but

also you know, helps them make make a Super Bowl run. Um,

that's how important offensive line is. Right when when they start, when you start doing the scouting report and they're talking about people who are who might not play, and a left tackle as a guy, You're like, oh, man, this he's a game changer, not just in the past right because you you're holding off the best pass rusher, but for the tone of your offense, like Trent Williams was setting the tone for the offening, like he's out of the game, that we're not sure what these guys are

gonna do, Like he only played one side. What offen the lineman, you know, is leading the team out of the time. That has never happened for either the quarterback. You know why, I receiver? Maybe I running. He got Trent Williams holding the boombox leading the team out there. This just shows you how important he is to that team. And I give Kyle Shanahan a lot of credit because the guy went from Joe Staley and went out there and made the deal with Trent Williams. So he understands, Okay,

I want to run the football. I also want to be able to throw it. I gotta have my gotta have a good left tackle. You say you want to do both running through balanced A good guy, here's the tack. Ain't you gotta say you got good running backs? This dude, whoever you put in there for the for the forty nine ers, especially because I think it was like two years ago. I'm playing fantasy football. I'm like, whoever is on the forty nine and starting that week, you better play.

And they were going out there getting one six. That comes from dad. I mean Dad was out there making you know, just oh hey, Clinton Ports going down the road, man, we'd be good. Give me that, give me that corner and Champ Bailey and he just kept on rubing drones and all these like who are these guys making making it work? Because you know, because your office line is ready, what your scheme is ready? What are the dumbest deals ever? Going back to Washington, You're gonna trade Champ Bailey for

a running back? What are you doing? What do you do the corners of you trade a guy who's who's in Canton for? I mean, hey, man, I like Clinton Ports. I mean, you know, nice running back, but you came out to you. They just kept on producing you was a good running back into you. But now they was here, here's Willis, Yeah, here he just kept putting. You know, you can find these dudes. But a corner like champ back, champion, good corner man, the top five guy, come up. I

never got that move, but hey, you know what. Good on the Broncos. They made the move Washington once again. Let let good talent roll on out the door here and escape with us. Let's get another break in here. Um, I want to dive into Kyler Murray and the combine these shoes here, combine coming up. Players about to say, no, oh, stay indoor, locking us down, We'll stay at home NFL day. It is exactly exactly, so we'll dive into that next here on the players latch back to my hotels dot com.

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have thought of that. That's not something of the cow. Every time I watch shark think that's how I feel. Why did I not think of that? They had the little thing where you uh, you know, you dropped stuff in the middle of the car seat your cost some time they had the little thing. I said, man, I dropped stuff on and I'll be mad every job I did not say, you know what this, let me put a little cover of you guys just said it in

the NBA class know what that came out. But I'm just saying, just like entrepreneurship, just just trying to generate out. Oh yeah, yeah, but I'm saying my short take. I wish I would have came on the idea. I believe me. I sit back, I drinking beer. I'll be like, man, let me see what I come on something in ninety percent of the town. I look at Google it and it's already somebody already tried it. I hate to see it. But did they try it the way you want to

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minutes early today. Man, I haven't made it on Coughlin time. I wouldn't have got found from Coughlin. I gotta I'm gonna come up with. That's for men. You know what? They cut the mic off. Okay, don't steal my idea. You see what I'm telling you for men right there. Man, when you get your grades, I'll get you a little See what I'm saying. I got a different way. Okay, there you go. That's the thing. How can I make this a little easier? And how can you do it

just a different way. So they're they're in lies, they're in lines. That that's that's that's what you got you gotta do right there, combines coming up here. Yeah, and I'm trying to sit up and tell players you all gona be on lockdown. Sit in your room right up in here. They said, you want to bet well. Player agents like, uh no, no, because we got business. We

got business, can conduct meet people. Players are like, no, no, so And it's just so funny because you know, the NFL act like COVID didn't exist doing the Super Bowl playoffs. Ain't nobody out of nobody? Everybody was. It was funny because they were we were going out there like, well, what if something happens to COVID. I said, ain't nobody COVID though it's over. The NFL's over anthony facts, you don't call us, don't answer that through right, you know what?

It wasn't no that wasn't a sickness. It was nothing out there, but everybody was mine for everything was per But now for the combine. Now cold Covid is back. Hey, hey, guys, COVID's back. Lock it up. So so I thought it was cleverbody age play like you know, we're not gonna do this. And the NFL, oh, by the way, has a whole couple of days of television. They've got a

broadcast to you. So, uh, you know when the top players not gonna be there, and you know you're talking about a percentage to maybe twenty five to forty percent of these guys saying now I'm out all of a sudden, Oh yeah, yeah, going going down the road, a good talking, open things up. You can get something to eat over there, won't you good? It's a business. You start. You started messing with that bottom when the bottom line you missed that bottom line? Switch it up. I need to talk

what you needed to talk about it. I found it very interesting there. So when it comes to this combine, what frustrates you about the process. My experience, it was just the waiting to actually get to do the combine drills. Like you there a couple of days before you even hit the field to run your forty, to do all that good stuff. You're there like two days earlier. You

get your high your weight, which is all good. You get all that done, and then you just got meetings on top of meetings on top of meetings, and you don't have enough room to actually you can't like go to the Indianapolis Stadium and go in there and work on your forty times, work on your get outs anything like that. You're stagging it and you're in meetings in your hotel meetings. Then you eat. I mean, there's no real football going on until you get to the combat.

So that whole waiting process for me, it's just and they're poking in pride and you and you're stretching it this way and you had a hamstring pull back in you know, two thousand and five. You know how you feel about that. Yet it I'm like, man, I don't remember that. I don't ask you all different types of questions. I'm just trying to get to the football situation. And then you got meetings with coaches, and that parts a little.

That parts cool because you know you're breaking down NFL defenses like I went with Brett Maxie who used to be the defensive cordner or defensive back coach here with the Cowboys, and he was putting me through all the coverage the Cowboys dude. So you yeah, that's pretty cool. But outside of that, I mean, it's just literally your

hotel room. You're getting poked in product by doctors. Hotel room eat hotel room doctors, and then you get to go to the common actually do the things you want to do, and sometimes that affects people and they don't

run the best times. They could well shout out to the people who did not even get invited to the combine and they just went to protect where we did that all in the same day and got your height, your way, your verio ill drill everything within four or five hours and it was over and it was good, and you knew exactly how people felt about you when you walked out of that building, because if they liked you, they would pull you to the side. Hey man, you know,

we think you did a great job. Blah blah blah. Ask you those questions and you just move on. You know. Unfortunately we don't get to meet with the coaches and get you know, go through breaking down film and all that stuff. But I didn't go to the combine, so

I don't know anything about it. But but but I can't imagine that it's one of those you know, I want to kind of compare it to TV but hurt you up and wait, hurry up and get here and where you gotta hurry up and getting this line and then wait, hurry up and do this and then wait. And it's really only beneficial for those guys that are combined warriors, work out warriors, like like Byron Jones. Guy, I can, you know, test out the waters. You can run a four to three, jump twelve three, got a

forty four in vertical. That's where the combine is great. But then you got guys like a Cooper Cup who you know, might run a four to six, you know, might not jump as far, might not you know, his numbers might not be great, but he's a hell of a football player on the field. So it's just you know, in my opinion, I think sometimes these coaches and these organizations they put too much stock in how fast this guy can run the forty or how big he how

explosive he is. Can the guy actually go on tape or get on the field and then put out good tape like that. You know. So let me ask this question, and this is just from a from the only thing that I can compare to have, you know, not being of an eleague ballplayer like you guys were. Is it like the SAT from the standpoint of, hey, here's the

standardized test. Maybe if everybody go and use it. But at the end of the damn day you arrive on campus, either you can get it and you can't get it, and then of course nobody, nobody knows who's gonna rive on campus and start drinking like a fish or you know, I mean, there's all these other things. How much you really don't love schools or you can't operate being out on your home? That is it? Do you aking it

to kind of that situation a little bit? I would say yes to that extent of Like one, you could pass the SAT and football wise, you can pass the combine and get out there on the field and suck at it, right, or you could do what you can

suck at the SAT. And because you're a great football player, SAT being the forty and all that stuff, but you're a great football player and you can get out there and show some stuff that you are able to show just by running the forty or getting your hand measure, or doing the drills that they're making you run through while you're at the combine. So to some extent, yes, some of it is very unnecessary. But they do have some guys to where it's beneficial for them to talk

to coaches, guys who have behavioral issues. You know, they want to figure out if this guy is really a good guy or if he's going to continue to be what they heard you was while they're in college. So it's beneficial to some standpoint. But when you talk about just the measurables, the forties and all this other stuff, sometimes I think it does get taken a little bit too serious. I think it does. It's over blown. I mean, looks, you know, disrespect them. But our friend a quasi quasi

us wants a perfect example. Yeah, it's part of your dog team. He he went to the combat and destroyed it. Friend great, jumped out of the gym reps. Everything was smart on the board like he did everything great. The Cowboys drafted him in the forethfrown. It's the safety. We meet. Me and mccraig come in here. We're all in you know, rookie camp and all that good stuff. He's a forefrownd gather, doing everything to get him in there, but he just

couldn't play. He just wasn't that good of a football player. And me and we went to the combine. Art numbers were nowhere near as good as his, but our career on the field and actually being football players, we ended up being a little bit better. So it's just I just I would say this, and I'm gonna give you some pros after I knocking down a little bit. My numbers were great at the pro day. Yeah, yeah, but the one who was most successful probably had this little

I had the worst time. I had the worst out of everything. And it sometimes it works out that way, right. I played longer than Quasi, You played longer than me, You made more money that both of us. Like you, you had a longer, longer career, but you had your time. I was a four to six these dudes was four for four for four. Quasi was a four three seven times. All that good stuff and it, but being a football player sometimes that like those numbers don't tell you how

good him a football player you are. How much does it matter just about the scheme fit you're going to I think that's huge. Look at curse, Look at it wasn't you know he couldn't crack to feel really in Detroit and Minnesota. And then dan Quinn gets his hands on him and this guy was, you know, on the cusp of being a pro bowler. So I think scheme has a lot to do with it. I mean, look at before when was it Marinelli system, that LV and a Van or Jalen Smith one hunder they pro bowl.

They were, you know, the two best hand them in the league. Then Mike Nolan comes in here and then boom, they fell off. They fell off the earth. That's how the point of scheme is because I think a lot of times here, specifically when I was playing and when you were playing, we tried to make things like interchangeable. All right. It was like, all right, you play strong, you can play free. But me and you both know

that stronger free ain't the same. If you play a week linebacker and you can play Sam lineback, they not the same because they try to make it say, well you just lining up on a different side of the field. There not mirror positions. And I think a guy like Dan Quinn coming in and saying this is what curse can do, this is what he good at. I think we heard Will McClay say the same thing. We know how to put guys in the correct position, all right,

and no, those are those things are not interchangeable. A strong safety who can get down there and cover of tighten and could not necessarily get back there and play the middle of the field, that's probably not what he's good at most of the time. Let's end it right here, as we were running out of time here on the players Lounge about you by hotels dot com. Cowboys have already gone through their whole quarterbacks contract situation. Here come

the Arizona Cardinals dealing with Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's been in the league three years, made the Pro Bowl two out of three years, Rookie of the Year, just led them to the playoffs. His agent comes out and Kyla Murray, they want they pay me, come on out, show men money.

So looking at that, and I think, all right, number two contracts in the NFL, because number one is Patrick Mahomes, NFL MVP, Super Bowl MVP Josh Allen Buffalo Bill six years, two hundred and fifty eight million, dollars one hundred million guarantee. If you're Arizona, are you willing to do this? I would say no. I know, you know, Kyler Murray's he's having,

you know, a good start to his career. But if we look at what Josh Allen was able to do in his you know, first three years, and what Cala Murray has been able to do and her, it's it's not even comparable. I mean, the guy is Josh Allen, I think is a He might be a generational talent. He might be up there with the Mahomes when it's all said and done. And Kyla Murray is great, and what he does, he's great, he's explosive, he's all that good stuff. But has he been able to lead a

team to at least one playoff victory? And he still has one, like two years left on his rookie deal, right if they pick up the fifth year option. I believe he still has like two years left. So you're already trying to get paid when you haven't really done that much in the National Football League compared to the other quarterbacks, Like look at josh Aarlin. He's one playoff game. This is just this is the nature being quarterback. Yeah, you want to get paid early. He's still this is

what you know. This is the nature of the You can't offer him the money now, you can't and they're saying, we want the money and if you don't show it to me, now you're insulting me. You're making me pay. But what you're gonna do, Well, he can hold out your third you said going he's going into his fourth. They can get him on an option. I would not pay him this year, dude. I think he would be worth the money. Yes, if he continues to go on

the path that he is that he's on. Now. We saw what Arizona was when he was out out this year and then when he got back he was a little rusted, but they were still a much better team. They were missing DeAndre Hopkins. So I think they have the pieces and they need him, But I don't think they need to pay him this year. I think it's I think it's quite early. Yeah, especially when are you thinking MLB, because how when did Josh Did he get paid with two years left? Or did he or did

they um paying with just a year left? I forgive which I don't know. I know he got paid early. Josh Allen is is much different exactly. He's won. He's in Buffalo. I hear your points about Josh Allen, but the agents don't hear it. They just like my guy. It's my guy's time. You know, when it was Jared Golfstime boom, he was here, Carson Wentz, Tommy, that's just kind of how it goes, and Jimmy Garoppolo got I mean, it just keeps going. Well, he've been looking at Dank

Frescott's look at you, look at that. He was once again that those were That's why I said the Cowboys went through. That was a different way of going about it. I don't see Kyler Murray being a patient guy like that. I mean, we saw how he wasn't Texas A and M when Kevin Subley wouldn't commit to him, and they had Kyler Murray and Kyle Allen and both of them are like pick one and something like I don't have to l M, fine, I'm leaving, and then Allen said

I'm leaving. Then he was loved for nobody. Then eventually he wasn't coaching any man. If this can't tell hibout, he gonna leave the NFL the let him go this year, this year, next year. You know, if he continued to do what he's doing and they actually make up run in the playoffs, you know, you might have a different conversation. But yeah, and I need to see a number. What is what is? What is the number before? Before I say no? Because he's talking a year? Oh yeah, here

you go, so forty a year hold on playboy. I'm just gonna sit here. And as he wrapped up, the agent is going to look at Josh Allen say I want to beat that. So if it's six years two fifty eight, this guy's gonna sit up. No, give me six years to to to to sixty. I mean that's what agents do. You know they're not if if his agent doesn't beat the Josh Allen contract, you know what's gonna happen in the agent game. They're all circling like

shut good, ain't good? Get right after that? Got inflation rising price of TV contract going up, but you can't get your guy more. That's that's how that game works. Barry Church. Yeah, players last uh, happy black history munk, gentlemen. Let's do it again next Monday right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.