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he scrugs. Let's get into Cowboys topics here as we are now on year twenty seven, Dallas Cowboys not participating in a super Bowl. Well no, now we're year twenty eight. Bro Hey, come out like that though we didn't had two shows in the Super Bowl game on now you okay? All right? Yeah, Maxwell, I'm actually working out a column comment and I'm just like you know, we and and it was inspired by you guys here and the Hopium, the Hope, the Hopium dangerous drab freshout yeah freshot you
out of hope fresh shout, you'll refuel. It's a year, it comes, it comes, Craft time, Draft time. Shut up, I got the cheese, Give me that draft Thursday night. Get Thursday, Thursday six before the draft, draft starts. Hit me, hit me, don't know nobody draft like the Cowboys. Cowboys talk three drafted team. But yes, then I second. Okay, So all season fans frustrated, you know, fred to frustrated, and and you know what, we gon w to int into the combine and then we're getting ready for the drag.
We will we can we all going back in, all going back in free agency. We we're gonna be right there. Jerry's got this thing down. Man, We're back there. So no, um, most of us okay, alright, the fan base, yeah, the fan base, so like the fan base is gonna gonna go right back in. You say you quitting. You know, it's like the people that said, you know, well, I'm not watching the NFL but kneeling record ratings guy rocketing. Oh so you didn't want so you won't watch? Okay,
there you go. Everybody everybody watch watch so yes, yes, um And amongst that that that hopium last night, I want to get you guys thoughts because Jerry talked about drafting the quarterback out and maybe the senior bone Nowadam. He mentioned that Max Duggin of TCU is the most impressive quarterback he saw down there. I talked to Max last night the Dave O'Brien Awards, So gentlemen, the Cowboys happened to use the pick on Max dugg and go
around and we start with your church thoughts. It depends on what round we're talking, Like mac d you know, he's he's a good quarterback. He's a good quarterback. If we're talking you know, maybe second, third day, you know, fourth through seven round. I'm okay with that. Day three, I'm okay, I'm okay with Day three. But you know, a top three rounds on Max duck and I just I'm not a huge fan of that. And I understand, like, look, I think he's gonna be he's gonna go down as
one of the better college quarterbacks in the game. I just don't see his game translating to the pros like that. And you know, we've seen a cap in time and time again. You know, you see a Tebow wi there, not saying any but I think he's a better passor than Tebow. But we've seen how you know, great college quarterbacks don't necessarily translate to good NFL quarterbacks like breaker like, like, you know, I don't even think he's down. I don't put him. I can't. So I'm you know, I'm a
fan of four through seven. Third day we can you know, spend a pick on him, you know, maybe you know, get willing those guys to develop him a little bit. But as far as you know a day one or day two, I'm not a huge fan of that. I was hoping you wasn't going with that crazy article about Mike Fisher about c J. Stroud. Thought they had a nerd to put that on. Who's that? Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, that's crazy, But I'm not look not in attaining that. I'm going to where you're going with Duggan.
I mean, if you think about where we were with backup quarterbacks Will Grier, Cooper Rush, he would fall in line and somebody that would be behind Dak. So I'm with BC on that, you know, third third day guy, you know, as far as drafting him, and I think
that's where everybody ideally has him anyway. Um, I don't think no one's jumping out the cake to for him to be first round, second round talent level least, I don't think so not that I've heard, but we see how valuable a backup quarterback can be to this organization. And look, man, Cooper Rush, I ain't done on Cooper Rush. You know, we might we might have to make some at a Cooper let him up out of here. I wait for somebody to say that, because I'm like, we're
talking about Duggan. We act like this man didn't come in and go undefeated. He came in and did exactly what he was asking to do. He protected the ball, and he held this team together while Dak Prescott was out four and one as a start. Now, Max Duggan, all right, I'm just telling you. I listen and we've seen like we've seen it happen over and over again, especially with the Cinderella teams. You've seen guys who play only Cinderella teams and they go throughout the season, they
have amazing seasons. And then when they get against the top competition, the competition that you're likely going to see in the NFL as a whole, When you play against the George who has a team full of the NFL type competition, then you see what the truth, what the true story is, what a guy like that now can it just be the TCU was outmatched, you know, from top to bottom, and then he didn't really have much
to play with. That is that is absolutely one of the possibilities that you were an attend you saw that great team. I know that's so. But when you think about drafting a guy like that, you have to also remember that that is the case. The guy was playing when he was playing in the Big twelve against no offense of the Big twelve. Big twelve, they lost the Kansas State. They lost, they lost the Kansas State over there.
But when he when he comes he started sec he got he got the brakes blew off of them about oh super, I'm talking about jayl if to get on my at you look at you the false start. You're talking about Texas take anyways, Yeah, he got two of them the very And I'll say this, what what what round did Patrick Mahomes get drafted in first? So what you already said he not going to the first round. But you just said Big twelve, like like the Big twelve. Now no, no, the Big twelve. Now why many teams
they got the Big twelve? Now all right, when you talk about the competition that they played against, when they played against SEC team is not the same, not even close. So and I bring this second third day guy so the third day so So I brought it up because it reminded me of Dak Prescott from the standpointed Dak Prescott heard say that his name was mentioned at the prescottference Max Duck and say, hey, look you know what you got Skylar Thompson out here? Who was out here
playing games? You got Brock party. Does that give you hope? And it made me think about Dak Prescott going to the Senior Bowl, who was the Senior Bowl MVP, even though the most hype player was Carson Winson and Jason Garret and the Cowboys coaching staff coached him. But we saw and heard some of those same type of things. But the thing you kept hearing about Dak Prescott that I heard about Max Duggan was he was a leader of men, the kind of guy that people feel as coachable.
Another quarterback I wanted to throw out there as we start to go into this whole premise of Cooper Rush free agent Will grit who knows Hendon Hooker at Tennessee. I liked him having a really good year till he got hurt, all the things you hear about, just good leader of men. So thoughts about the kid from Tennessee. I like him. You know that was number five, right, Yeah, he has a huge arm. I've seen that again when
we was playing against I want to say Alabama. They're playing against Yea, the dude just you know, click of a risk, kind of like Aaron Rodgers where he can flick the risk and it's going sixty some yards. Now, I think he's a row talent, you know. I think he's still got some Yeah, I think he still has some things to develop as far as reading defenses and you know, going through progressions and when it's not there,
you know, check it down, all that good stuff. But as far as talent goes, I think he has it all. He has a boat love it, has a strong arm. He's athletic out there, so he can buy time for his receivers. He can also run the ball as well. So I think that would be a more interesting prospect than Max Duggan going into the backup scenario because I feel like Max Duggan is basically a little bit more athletic than Cooper Rush. That that's just my opinion on it.
But if you bring a guy like Hernon in here still maybe a second third day type of guy, I think he can develop him. Yeah, they took guy. I think you can develop him and he could be a solid backup, you know, for Dak Prescott if they were to go that route. Yeah, I like him. I like for all the reasons that you just just said, especially the arm strength. Um As you stated, it's really hard to value college quarterbacks these days because of the systems that they play in. They just don't ask a lot
of them. As far as what you said about reading defenses, so you don't know guys are throwing to an area versus throwing guys open, and that's the difference in the NFL. But I like the prospect of it. You know. For me, I just returned back to, you know, Dak and his maturation as a quarterback through the league. Those were some of the things that we were asking about him, you know, reading defenses, just footwork, all of those things as well.
So those are some of the because I didn't study him that way to even know does he have those things? Can he read defenses, does he have the great great mechanics, velocity on his ball, what have you, But yeah, I like him. I like him. I don't have a whole lot of negative things to say about him. Yeah. One thing about that, And this goes back to the other point. Dak played in the SEC, and Dak shows some athleticism
that matched teams like LSU, teams like Alabama. When he went to Mississippi State that year, them dudes was out there playing crazy ball when he was like, now we've never seen no Missi State. I'll play like this, all right. So playing against that type of competition, Same thing with
the God for Tennessee. Who is he playing against. When you talk about being able to recover, just being able to do certain things, when you're playing against a Nick Saban coach defense, then you have to assume that's probably the closest that you're going to get as far as scheme wise, is playing against the NFL type of game. He had an ele of A game. He played the
ELEVA game. So when you're just looking at the type of competition that they played against in the athleticism, I'm absolutely going way higher on him than I am going with Max Duggan. That's no shot at Max dun He did what he what he was supposed to do at
TC and actually elevated and went way above that. But if I'm picking, and I'm being honest about the potential and the experience that you had throughout college that chose the proof of what you can be in the league and how ready you can be, I'm looking at I'm looking at the SEC guy perfect, perfect. This is good. This is good because it just lead me along. So we know Jerry Jones is not going to use a first round traff pick on a quarterback. We know this.
He's only done it once. The first ever pick they made Traitman nineteen and I haven't done it. So when you talk about the quarterback position, then Jerry took spoken in Alabama. You know we need to take one each year. Hendon Hooker is going to be a Day two guy, Round two or three, Duggan most likely four, could maybe slipping to three. Are you comfortable using your second or third round pick on a quarterback? Daddy for Hindon Hooker. Man, But you got who's my first round pick? Is it
the officsive lineman that I need? Let's just say it. If it's if we get an offensive linemen, if we get an officsive lineman. I'm okay with that, but I'm going to still sit here like I continue to say every year and we hit on Tyler Smith, thank goodness, but now we still got other guys who we have question marks with, right, and like you go back to the years and you want to be Jason Garrett and
all that stuff. You go back to the years where we were feared as a football team is when we had the offensive line that had Tyrant Smith, Zach Martin tracks, we had those guys. That's when teams are like, man, I don't want to line up against them, dude, and you are running team. Yeah, you're head coaches, you're head coach. Now it's not a well we got. We got back to running the ball more last year than we have since Jason Garrett was out. Can we agree on that?
When when he was like, hey man, we need to run the ball more, when Tony Paul and Ezekiel Elliot, we was averaging almost twenty carriage twenty twenty five verses a game, but he was overall he's about passing the ball. So that's we need all We still need the offensive linemen to pass block and run block. Okay, hack your well, you know what knew. I've been around you now for an entire year, and I know when you're laying and this is a red crome moment right now for you.
And I just don't want to follow who are you're taking me? Because look, no, the answers, no, the answers no. I wouldn't feel comfortable that there. The need is too much in other areas to take a quarterback. And in the second round you have to you have to get a linebacker, you have to get a defensive lineman. They're just you have to all offensive lineman. There's positional need wide receiver. We're back, all right. We got to make a good decision, not a guy that developed. We don't
need no red hurts, no red shurts this year. This is this is hit the ground running the year for everybody to come in. She says, unfair, bro, because we need to go over free agency or nothing like now I'm saying, they're thinking, like, where do we get a free agent? Like who's on the team by the time the draft comes, right, sprinkle, get the whole free agency processes all the way to draft. I wanted to stop it.
I'm glad, you say, I'm like you know what, I ain't even think about who's still on the squad at that time. I've got an ending to this. Yeah, of course the answer is heck no, I mean I would not no hearing it. No. I mean, like like my boy Heck said, I mean, there's too many needs that we gotta have out there. We're gonna do that corner right now. We got a guy coming off of a broken foot and a free agent who tours a or Achilles and Anthony Brown, so I outside of DIDs you
know who, we got a corner. I think we need to do something that corner. Like you said, lineback, got some guys in the trenches that we need to resolve out there. Well, we're gonna do that safety. I know, we got um who's at Hooker and her still on the continent. They have one more year left in their deals. Wilson's a free agent. Wilson's a free agent. I mean, there's just a lot of guys that we need to take care of, or guys that we need to bring in the field. Those things I don't think we need.
We've got a couple of rush that's what see, that's what happens. That's what happened with the Cowboys because we don't go out and we don't make those big free agency moves that we like. We got to get it all in the draft, you know, we get in free agency some of those those pieces that we need, we can go get them. We see Philly go get in Dominican Sue in the middle of season. Like there are people, there are people that you can go get outside of
the draft. You can bring a big time free agent in here and have them ready to go and make that be one of the biggest free agent moves ever. But the last time you've seen the Cowboys do the outside of Mark Cooper Brandon car but that was his No Mark, they made that trade for put that money. But don't see it. But you can, which sometimes you hope. You like. Man, there's some guys out there we can you know that if they want this team, I think we would be a lot better. Come on, pull the
curtain back. But yeah, please, we wait. I feel like you wrote this down. We're following right into it. Come on. Howie Roseman used the second round pick on Jalen Hurtson. Everyone was killing him in Philadelphia and he was killed amongst draft nicks, of what are you doing. You've got Carson Wentz, You've paid him all this money, here's your guy, And they said, you know, here's a quarterback and we think he could do something here. I was skeptical. I
was skeptical. A lot of people were skeptical. So the whole thought about having a quarterback, and Jerry's already put this out here. I do wonder where do they go? What did they decide to do? We know all happened around one, but I am very curious to think about what it is they decide to do. And when I just think of quarterbacks here, having not dived into it deeply, I don't even think about the first round guys, because
I know that's not gonna happen here. But when you talk about a Hindon hooker and just the point you made about handing this, the guy was doing it in the SEC who who was a Highstman Trophy candidate. If he doesn't get hurt, that brother could have won it. He was playing some outstanding football here. Um Max Dugg and the guy that Jerry spoke about. So you know, when Jerry's talking about people, he's actually paying attention that maybe that's where they go, yes, Cooper Rush could come back,
it's gonna cost you a little bit. Will Greer. I still think Will Greer has has potential to play here, and if they can develop Cooper Rush, I'd like to
think they could keep developing Will Greer. But it's something to me in a seventeen game season now, with Dak Prescott and there's other quarterbacks across this league, you must be working on the quarterback on It's like recruiting that all ABC always being, always be drafting the quarterback in the Cowboys say they want to jump on board with that.
So what Will say this is, you know, I'm not opposed to putting somebody behind Prescott just to put a little presson on them, just a little And you see what we did to that defense just for the competition, put a competition alone that that draft year when Quinn came in, we got you know, eleven draft picks all on defense, and you know what you've seen what happened with that. So I'm not opposed to, you know, putting just a little bit of pressure on him just to
make sure his game is on point. Third round, Okay, all right, let's get a break in here. Let's get a break in here up today you can start franchising guys. We'll go around the room. Who would you franchise if you were talking to Jerry Jones? Your recommendation, I want an executive executive educational recommendation for who you use the draft a draft pick, but the franchise tag on with Danny mccraig, Heck Mahars, Barry Church and New Scots the
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one Gerald Wayne Jones, the owner of it is. This is the assumpthing that like, I have to have to recommendation, Yes, you have to, like I gotta pick somebody. Your recommendation could be nothing. Yeah, I mean it's about the record. Your recommendation is whatever. You're the consultant for Jerry Jones, so you make whatever a recommendation you want to. So, man, if I'm consulting with Jerry Joe, I'm gonna say this here. You I feel like the only option you got if
you if you're going to franchise somebody's Tony Poler. But if you do that, you better make dang sure that you get a deal done before you pay them that franchise tag money. Just give him a deal. Sure, don't have to be fired, don't have to break the banking. If you're sure that you can get something like that, then you But I just don't know, man, Now I don't want to I'm former players. I don't want to
hit on the running backs. But that stuff they were saying about running backs and how long they last, it's true. It's true. He's coming out a grucial. It's true. So as good as as good as a running back and be in the first two three years, you know that year four, year five, that you're gonna have a significant drop off and there's gonna be another guy who's coming in who you're gonna have to look at him pan
as well. So if I had to do one Tony Polaver right now, I'm like, I don't know, man, I need to know how what what's the return looked like? And I'm gonna basis off of past behavior of the cowboys in the franchise tag. They have tagged the wrong guys just continuously or not worked out a deal instead of giving the guy franchise tag. And for me, if I'm talking to Jerry Jones and I speak the King's language fluently, but I would say I wouldn't give not now, nuther,
not now. Not a franchise tag would be an issue this year, are anytime soon, unless we're talking about the big briefcase now, he will get French attacked because he's not going anywhere if we can't work this out. But any of these other guys, I mean, even with Tony Pollard, what I would do is I would try to treat
it as though Tony Poler didn't have the injury. I would allow him to test the market to see what's out there, because teams are going to be able to dictate that to you, all right, so allow him, uh that courtesy. But I wouldn't, man, I wouldn't be in a situation, especially not for safety. Fourteen million million linebacker. There's no way, There's no way I wouldn't. The only one you could do is ten. That's it. That's it that with character went up and you still and that
would be last result for me. That would be like the eleventh hour and this and that's gonna help Zeke with his USA. Like, man, so what we're doing. Look, I'm with your heck on this one. I'm not passing in the hour. I'm not passing any especially after the numbers out of unseen when you got linebackers hitting twenty you know, safeties four and fourteen and a half. I mean,
there's no ridiculous right now. So I'm not franchise tagging anybody, you know when it comes down to to to polar which is the only you know scenario where I would throw one out there if it was forced to. Look, I'm saying, polot man, I'm bringing Polo back. And if you know, if our guy, you know, Zeke isn't isn't willing to take that cut, then gotta let back Goones,
be back ones, let him get the role. Because I feel like depending on how well Tony can come back from this injury, which he's young, he's young, I think he can bounce back and so I have that explosiveness. I think he's shown to everybody that he can be that bell cow back. I think he I think those days of people thinking he can't take the beating, you only got to give him fifteen touches per game or you'll you'll max him out, I think those thoughts are gone.
I think he's gotten to the point I really broken. He was like, you know, brse call back back tack. I mean it was a I think it was more of a fluke than a than a than a wear down injury. I came four four years for eighty year with the franchise, that being ten yeah, ten he trying to get him on the watch always. Let's gonna target prices. I'm gonna target prices, y'all, y'a think he's gonna get more than that? Ten? Hold on on, so y'all think he gonna get more than that on the market, he
gonna have to. I think you'll get more that he get at least even with the broken leg. What somebody gonna say like he's gonna be able to come back off that? You said it was, It wasn't. But now he made eight. He better be calling somebody NFLPA because he gonna be yes. And who would not trying to work their own deal that Richard Shervy like man, I don't think you need to go. They would p wouldn't to let him do that. Ten, let's do ten. That's young man over the dollar t I can't hold on
the number ten point one. He gonna be the lower. But hold on, hold on. We're talking about a guy that definitely, you know, he wasn't a starter, though we are saying like the guy was. You know, he had he had a great season. He had a great season Pro Bowl. But let's just say, did he get a thousand? But I don't. I still, I'm still there's still a question mark for me about the bill call back if you if you like, if you go to a running team, this dude gonna take twenty twenty two carries a game.
But see, I don't think he would. I think he would be more suitable and like a how McCaffrey is used in San Francisco right now, kind of like they passed them running him a little bit half somebody there to spell him as well. I think he would go to a team in that regard. But you know, I'm still thinking eight ain't too bad a pass catching guy. He out here and running and you know, doing all that. He only get eight how much one year? Though? This is one year ten one for running back? But what's
the salary captain ship? How much should be going up? Crazy? It was like, and the Cowboys are seven million projected seven million over the cap right now. So let me tell you something. We are we already know. I've been saying, I've been telling, come on, you're already now, you can save a lot. They try, they're gonna try to say something with it, you know what. Come on, So we're talking about Tony Pollard. If We're being just realistic and honest.
He's a part time player. It's really good part time player, but he's not a full time player. In his pass bro is not good. What would you say he's a Kamara or would you not even put him up there that moment because you know Kamar splits with you know those guys in there, say not at all, because na Man Kamara is so dynamic as a pass sketching running back and running the ball. I would look not to take anything away from Tony Pollard. This is what I'm saying.
As far as the market is concerned, I think Jared's already set the market at the running back position before. You don't want to do it again. All right, you're not gonna do it again. The biggest, the biggest decision that you have to make is only Ezekieli. Then will he be here next year? Kansas City? All the teams that played in the playoffs showed you the success to the running game. Bring in some three, some four or fifth round guys, even some undrafted free agent guys. They
can get it done for you. But this whole notion of you gotta have that one guy that can do it, like the Jacobs the you know, I think all of those days are slowly dissipated into another team brings it back, and I don't see him to you something that that CMC he a different guy. Christian McCarver is a different guy. And I think on any team, his ability to run the run the ball, between the tackles, catch the ball, and create mismatches, I think he's pretty much one of
a kind. And he's been doing it long enough when you're like, oh, he ain't slowing down yet, and he deal with injuries and he still comes back. But when when San fran got him, we was all like, oh wait, that's it's about to be nasty over there in San franc I think Christian laughter is such a different beast.
It's hard to compare a lot of people to him and what he does and also what you just the point that you just made his durability, I think that's the biggest issue, but us of his talent level and him running outside. I think Shanahan last year he showed you that he even has to think differently about Christian McCaffrey and how he uses him instead of the kind of running scheme that he wants to use which is pounded inside the tackles and cemc ain't that Hey, why
why are we talking about McCaffrey. I just want to give a shout out to the dunk contest. When we got McCaffrey, then the man come out here when the dunk uns, it was a big top dunk. Y'all hit on the gap, all three of them. I'm not I'm not that cain't jump a remake coming out. He absolutely no, he but he crushed it. He crushed it. He crushed it. But it just what it just pains me to see this old school. We know he didn't give old school. The dunk contest is just man, dude, it's it's horrible.
The mad and Lebron he didn't do it. They put it all out. You want to see Lebron in the dunk contest went up there. Now, he didn't do what he was younger than he made. All the stars not do it. Not that man. Y'all gonna hate on him anyway, I'm gonna do. I hate he's away for the reason I hate on the runt. Yeah. Look, I mean, look, man, All Star Game in general, it's garbage. So it isn't that all Star Weekend, ain't though I better. Okay, Christ
McCaffrey is different, though he is, he's very different. I don't think there's any comparison to what he is doing as far as they pass Catcher and being able to run in between the tackles outside on stretches and zone reads. But his durability is an issue. And now Tony Pollard that is. So let me throw this here. If they franchise Tony Parks ten point one million dollars, if he's making ten, we know you're gonna have to cut his e Eliot's number down. What do you cut him down to?
What is it? Is it twelve? He's at sixteen? Right? And oh yeah, he's high number. So you got ten. So what are you gonna put put put Eliot down for it. And we're gonna come by in this out. So we got ten point one? And what are you gonnayz I'm not answering that question. Not good because it'll be outrageous. I'm not even gonna say it'll be a good nay. I was wrong, m sixty sixteen, not twelve. You were think of twelve. Ain't nobody paying him? Sixteen?
Got there on the street but I think he knows that. I think if if he has people around and the that's really talking truth to him, I think he knows that those days of sixteen are over and he ain't gonna touch sixteen, and if he wants to stay here, he's gonna have to take a significant cut, and it's gonna be somewhere in the ballpark of over half three to I'm saying, I'm saying over half. Yeah, yeah, over half. So three to five million is gonna be his ball play.
And that's and that's gonna take everything in him to say I'm gonna stay here when I was just making sixteen, now I'm making between three and five. What would he go? I'm trying to think of teams off the top of Arizona. They got James Connor, but the you know, I don't think James Connor is the back that Zeke is. Carolina. They got the two, they got the two young Bucks, over Rams, the Rams, the ms. Okay, yeah, I mean
that's tough. That's a tough decision to make, especially I think I think the key thing is would be if the team definitely franchise tag Tony Pollard, then that would just mean the demise of you have to. And the reason I bring that up because if you pit Tony at ten and you say three to five, as you brought up, do you are you ready to devote thirteen to fifteen million dollars to a running back position? Here's
a lot when you're not a running team. When you're not a running team, And you've seen the two teams in this year's Super Bowl when without elite running backs having it doing it by a committee. We've seen the Chiefs to it by committee. We saw the Rams when the Super Bowl by committee. Um that that's That's ultimately what I'll kind of get into is how much money are you willing to invest in a position that you
did you have devalued by switching your head coaches. And one player who's clearly the statistics show is no longer the player it used to pick. And another lays coming off an injury. So we're talking maybe thirteen to fifteen million dollars on one guy coming off an injury, another guy who skills him stellily gonna down. We comfortable with that guy's no, no, not thirteen, But I'd be nervous to just kind of dismiss Zeke because we've seen how
guys come back from injuries. Not saying that Pollards. You know, um leg injury is the same as Gallops ACL. But I mean when Gallop came back, he was nowhere near the type of athlete he was before the ACL injury. So let's so the answers answers, No, that that you don't do that. And then I think if you handle your needs in the draft and you go out there and you get you a real good offensive lineman, you show up and you return to a real good what
offensive lineman? Yeah, and that that gives you the leg up to say, all right, we may not need thirteen million dollars. We may can go get a fifth, sixth round guy. Or I'm paying my head Coulter, he's the offensive coordinat let's figure out. I'm going to get this done. Like what it's teams around the league, Like you said, was it because there is tonys the it can be done. They drafted a guy in the first round. I'm my LSU guy. Man, it's a healthy scratch. Yeah, let's take
a break. That hurt. Let's take a break. You got to perform when we come back. I want to go back into something you just said right there, Let's die a little bit more into this running back situation, because I definitely think cowboy fan needs to try to think a little bit more outside the box when we start talking about numbers here and there's other places you gotta feel steal it with Barry churchech Ma Harrison. He's Danny mccram New Scores players by Toastino's right here on Dallas
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All right. It was checking out the rushing numbers here and one through twenty two. So so Josh Jacobs led the league and rushing one thousand, six hundred and fifty three yards and at twenty two. That's where Ezekiel Elliott comes in. By the way, twenty Potter was sixteenth and rushing sixteen games, one thousand and seven yards average five point UM yard to carry and his longest run was
fifty seven yards. Looking right here, Elliott. Of the top twenty two running backs, Elliott Nacy Harris were both tied when it came to average three point eight yards to carry UM jacobs average. Jacob's average was four point nine, as he was four nine, Nick Chubb was five point one, Miles Sanders was four point nine, Travis Eten was five point one. Airing Jones was five point three UM. He was splitting carried to he liked to they reworking his
deal too. Yeah, Tony Polar five point two m As far as just going back here and looking at um Nacy Harris seventeen games, one thousand and thirty four yards, um Ezekie Elliott fifteen games, eight hundred and seventy six yards. Of the top twenty two running backs, and you look at their longest carry. Zeke Cathley, his long was twenty His long was tied with Albert Kamara for the lowest
at twenty seven yards. Yeah. No, don't even compare the Nazi here, because I think that's a totally different situation. He was what they was working with with quarterback up there too, and the defenses that they would would have to go against based off what was available to him. He had a foot injury all year lives. He was basically hurt from from camp playing against the stack box
with I was talking about earlier in the season. All right, when it comes to Zeke, you Elliott man, for all those young players, don't you go on that field if you're feel an injury, because what we what we talk about now in the off season, well, you know what, those numbers dropped a little bit so somebody it was Nazi, right, who had to hurt foot? Not to hurt foot. Those numbers, how they're not averaging out the way they used to be. How are we gonna have to take some money on it?
But when the seasons around, are you a warrior? You're the heartbeat of this team. We needed to go out there, dude, don't worry about all that stuff in the off season. We got you. When you come back, they're showing you good. But because when he had when he had a message, man, he's the client. I'm just saying. So going back into the the talked about the number sportion potentially fifteen million dollars if you decide to franchise Pollard at ten un
Let's say you give Elliet a contract. It's three to five millions, so it's fifteen you've seen the Super Bowl you can win. Where a running back committee where the Cowboys messed up, I think we'll all agree, was that wide receiver committee last year didn't work. They're going to have to put some more dollars towards that. Where we agree. Yeah, I don't have to pay CD. You ordered them pay Gallup. But you got guys who are looking to come out proven deals. Man, I'm just gonna continue to say, if
Odell Beckham is heavy, I mean it's healthy. Why not approving deals what he's looking for? Why not giving that shot? If you're looking for guys to be difference makers on the squad, I mean you ran out there with Michael Gallup still trying to get his knee and ankles right this year, why not give obj shot? If you're looking for free agent because you know the dude, They're not going to go make a bunch of money to get
a guy. Saw ESPN Head mentioned that too. They're gonna talk about best fits and they put them in Dallas. But here's the question. Had you come from putting more dollars? Mean, first of all, you gotta put more dollars. Is that where you want to go? But I just believe that you can't. I'm thinking running back dollars have to be less, while receiving corps has to be more. Being Odell Beckham junior, anybody even gotta put more money. I just don't approve
going into the season like we did last year. I just I refuse to believe that anybody that had put their thinking cap on thought that they could go into a season with just Ceedee Lamb, Dennis Houston, Semi Phoco, and whoever else they were trying to run up. Not understand it didn't work. It didn't work the result again and it didn't work in those moments where you absolutely had to have a guy, a lead guy. Ceedee Lamb didn't establish himself as that receiver until I think five
six games into the season. Odell Beckham gives you a proven commodity. I'm willing to go with the guy like Odell Beckham knowing damn well what he's what he provides for your team. Now, the other question is house, the need, the health, all those things that you just asked. But I also am looking at other free agent wide receivers that's out there. Well, yeah, you can't understand, but other
free agent wide receivers that's out there. There are some guys out there on the street or maybe in the draft that you can go and you could pinpoint that could help this team. That the mistake that we made with Jalen Tolbert we cannot make with another soul in the draft. You cannot make that with another soul. But
NEWI they made a mistake last year. They made a mistake last year with the overestimation of what the wide receiving coreps was and they can't they cannot approach this season the same overestimated two things, what Dak Prescott could do with less and what the receivers core was because they looked at and they say, we're paying the gout for you get them out there with a Cede Lamb on Michael Gallop, y'all think you underestimated how long it was gonna take him to get back to being one
hundred percent and you underestimated all that. That's how you ended up with the receiving cord that you had where Dalton Schultz and Ceedee Lamb were the two guys. Speaking of Dalton Scholtz free agent, man loved him, pale he was. I love him. I love him, you know yea, I'm not gonna resect the market with him, but I'm gonna gi'm I'm off from a deal because what's the what's the franchise for the for a tight end right now? Eleven thing? I tell him, you know, I tell him, man,
it was fun, man, you know what. I love it from them. Nothing. It's over. It's over because we got we got young Ferguson. We got the futures already here. Yeah, exactly ain't the same. I'm just telling no, no, no, it ain't. It ain't just say if you're if you're gonna keep Dak Prescott here, Okay, it's tough for you to say I'm gonna keep you and then get rid of your favorite best target in your safety blanket, get another one. Yeah, I mean, it's that easy where you
prioritizing things. So if you know, we say we need helping the wide receiver when we gotta pay somebody emp over there, you know, tight end, we got the running back situation, we need an offensive lineman. Then you go on the defensive side. Soe some guys in the trench.
This is where you prioritized. Got some got you got some guys that you need to you know, you got some guys, but you got you got, you got, you got something, got some ways to free up some cap space, all right, So let's not let's not act like we got we got some guys. It's sixteen million dollars on running back that's got We just talked about how that's got to get He ain't the only one. Yeah, we can't do that. Thirteen million is just not gonna happen.
I think it's nineteen. Yeah, we ain't going talk a franchise tag of thirteen million for a tidy end and a running back tag of ten million dollars. That's potentially twenty three million dollars for two spots. That's tough. And they ain't the top of eight position. Are the three. That's why I go. That's why I'm saying fergin him the shot on the future. That's why I'm going at the tight end position. I mean, and they showed you enough.
Ferguson showed you enough throughout the season. That dog he's like that showed you. No, No, he showed you that. But when you scheme him up, he can find those open spaces in that zone. We was asking. I was saying, how the hell is he so open? He's the number
two receiver? Come on now, man, going to propo Being that he's a number two receive on the team, how many big time catches I'm talking about over the shoulder on the side, Like we said, oh man, we had no idea that Dak was gonna be able to fit that ball in there and how he was gonna catch that you like. Man, that's Dalter shows ugging all day. I go back to Blake Jarma. We thought Blake Jarmo was gonna be that guy and then here comes Dalton
show to you. The cowboys, in my opinion, have shown you they can develop tight ends and in a marketplace where you've got limited dollars and in question marks across the roster. I'm going to loudon the Wells. I'm saying, yeah, James handling them up here before then, So don't be talking about developing Jane handle wherever you had because knew you're not about to do that, and talk about y'all.
They had Blake jar because they was playing him. They paid them, and then another guys came out and play back. Can I finish like lound the Wells. That why I need you to take these two guys, get him to another level and we're going to the draft another. When Parcels was here, Parcels was all about that strays them do The connection that you got between adults and shows and Dak Prescott are not easy to find. And I'm not saying it's like a Travis Kelcey and Uhum Patrick.
What you're liking but they have. That's the connection that you have to your quarterback and it's fun. He's not a pro bowled player. I can't spend thirteen million dollars even if I have the average. No, no, no, no, no, I said he. I asked heck if he would offer him something? He said no, no, I wouldn't. I would offer him something and you don't take it. He don't take it. I'm not paying him thirteen million year. You offered him last year and it was the same thing.
They said, Hey, look we made an offer, but he and his agent wanted David and joke Wu type money like you don't. We don't feel me back. He'll come back if he'll come back. When he hit the street, he realized that offer was dang good. He'll come back and he don't. He don't. But I'm gonna offer him something. He's going to the charges anyway. Man. That is that's our show, that's our marke him out there game, get him right. Thank you, Barry Church. I'm saying thank you.
Dannyn Crab Movies. So what would you offer him? The mac a year? Man? I'm not no gem okay, I don't know, but it's thirteen minute six five six a year, hold on, hold on, hold on. I told pol eight years, y'all thank me for that. I want to tell me got the franchise though, Bro, he got franchise one time. Now he got a chance to go out there on the market to see him. So if you are from that and nobody else offer from, then he comes back five six. Yeah, I said, I'm not a GM. I
gotta look at the number rip. Look at twenty part five and below. You got the man at the Salvation army. Yeah, man, thrill the store. Y'all let him leave. Ain't trying to soap people were getting him out the Salvation Army. That's why I'm starting. That's what I'm starting. I found any six who be here that's started a showy, Hey, this is a negotiations. Come back, come back with what you
want like they did tomorrow. I'm not dropping in. We'll talk to you Monday right here on Dallas Cowboys get paid, don't get paid shows. Man. Don't don't let them hate on you, bro. Damn, that's tough sports. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
