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Cowboys safety Danny mcraig, m Dallas Cowboys safety demon. I am knew, he scrugs, a long time Medium member here covering the team consecutive weeks. Yes, Yes, three, it's done back in it though, yes we are. Let's just dive and go go ahead heavy and get right on at all. Byron Jones, my guy, Byron Jones, free agent to be Jerry Jones said Indianapolis, we probably can't afford him. We talked to his people, but we know we probably can't
afford him. So I called someone in the know around around here, and I said, give me the word you would use to describe Byron Jones. Because I was listening to the draft show that we do here Dallas Cowboys dot Com and and one of the guys on the said by and Jones is a great corner. And so I asked this person in the building, what's the word you use. He said, he's not great. He says productive. I said, okay, and he said, here's what also makes
him productive. He says he's really good. And pressed, he says, if he goes to a team where where they're gonna have to play more his zone, he said, that's not what they need to do. He says, look at Josh Norman. Josh Norman playing zone in Carolina. Suppose when they had that good front up there, he got Kicklee and Thomas Davis. All right, he looked good. All of a sudden they go to Washington. They want this man to sit up here in places man and pressing who whoa. He was
not good. So that was his word on Byron and for me because the Draft show said, hey, he's a top ten quarter. Jeff Caepino, I was here saying he was a top ten quarter. And I love everything Byron Jones is as a man. Okay, he's a tremendous teammate. But now you're talking about writing a check. And we've said it before here, I'll say it again. I can't write that check for a guy that doesn't get interception. At the end of the day, if I'm paying for a corner and paying that kind of money, I need
Rivera's type production. That's not what it gives you. Somebody's going to pay him a lot of money and they're gonna they're going to be happy. But he's not a great corner. That's what I got. It's your turn. I don't know. I think it changed the scenery is it's probably good for Byron. I really can't remember the last corner that we had that just had a tremendous amount of success. As far as going to get the ball like that, Right, So it's not like it's something that
that happens here all the time. But then some people leave and go other places and they play better and they get different opportunities because in a different scheme. I think Byron has the ability to go be a ball haulk, but I also think he's a great corner because he's specifically an eracer. Right. It is you would play top dollar to be to have an eracer on your team. Right.
If you have a guy that you're going against like Odell or you're going against a DeAndre Hopkins or something like that, Man, you have somebody that you can put on him and you say, hey, man, you don't have to get no interception, just limit him to three catches for fifty yards. Can't we good? You pay top dollar for that minus picks. Yeah, that's something you want on your team because those guys give you headaches as defensive coordinators, like, what are we gonna do with this guy? Do we
have to double them? We're gonna in and all of them? Do we have to put somebody over the top. If you get a corner back who can just take them away one on one, that's worth top dollar. To me, that is worth fifteen million because the guy on the other side of the guy that he's shutting out is getting fifteen mil. Okay, is good. Fifteen plus fifteen plus all right, Church, I was the biggest proprietor of buying Jones. I think you know, he's like you said, it's a
great corner. He excels in press man and man coverage. Like you said, he's kind of in a race for like that half of the field. You can kind of say, maybe we'll just have to post safety. We don't need a full safety over the top of Andy's versatile. He can play in the slot outside, he can play safety a little bit. But then you start talking about this number. Fifteen mills, teen meal, seventeen mil. That's a lot of money to write a check for a guy that just
doesn't get thee doesn't get the ball. He does. He has two career in exception with five years too. In five years, I mean, he isn't a racer. I've seen people get a couple of catches on him, but he does kind of shut down a half of the field. But for me, if I'm writing a check to a guy for fifteen sixteen seventeen, mil I need him to be able to set up my office a little bit better by taking the ball away in the other person's territorial or making a game changing, momentum changing type play
for me that fifteen sixteen. You're like you said, there's gotta be a revers type or I wouldn't even say Sherman because he's not a great press corner, but he gets the ball. Stephan Gilmer, that's the type of guy. And he's getting like sixteen millions. That's number one. That's number one corner. There maybe a rams. You can also go for mark speakers, and he can get all the I want. I would never get he's too much of
the gamble. Everything on picks. It's a lot of guys who are gamblers, and you see them do squatting on routes and getting them special and they got great corners. But yeah they turned the ball. They turned the ball over, but they still get told like people are going at them for that number. I'm thinking more of Gilmore, Patrick Peterson, those type of guys who can excel at press, but
as well they're like receivers when the balls in the air. Yeah, I think those dudes, and so what you just to me, Okay, you just named great corners, and great corners get great paydays. And to me this falls not as much but a little bit into the DeMarco Murray peal where DeMarco was here my thing. I said, look, DeMarco had a great season, that's why his NFL officer player. But he wasn't a great player, but he wanted a great contract, which Philadelphia
gave him. In Philadelphia ended up being unhappy. Then he went to Tennessee. And it's always interesting when you lower expectations on a guy. Then he was Okay, It's like Brandon car Brandon Carr was a good player. He got fifty millions, but you gave a guy who was a number two corner in Kansas City fifty million and said go be a one, which he wasn't. He's gone to
Baltimore and he's excelled. And I just feel like for Byron Jones, somebody's gonna pay that note and they're gonna say, well, where's this great corner, and you're gonna realize he's a productive guy, but he can also go excel. I just I'm just looking back and I'm thinking that like cornerbacks that we've had in our systems who've been able to go create those turnovers, and we haven't had that here specifically,
So could it be? Could it be us? You see the way that we play, Like if you look at like even Tyran Matthew and Pat Peterson, all those guys, the thing that they have about them is the coordinator has this this belief in them and they let them go out there and play any way they want to. Hey, you want to play off, you want to play press
this time? And those guys are out there and they and they perfect their cramps so much that they're able to trick guys into runing certain rounds, to trick quarterbacks into throwing certain stuff that they shouldn't be throwing. Us
is hey, Byron, go out there and press. So if he goes to another guy in the right defensive coordinat that gets his hands on him, he's like, hey, this this is this is what you do, right, We're gonna maximize your skills this way, and you can see this and then go out there and get picks, and all you saying like this guy's productive now, So all three of us agree, he's gonna get fifteen mil at least, So this in turn starts to become another reason why,
ultimately why he's going to go. You have to pay Dak top dollar. You have to pay Amari Cooper top dollar. You gotta pay Byron Jones. You really don't have, at least listening to the Cowboys, the ability to sign all three guys to these types of deal going on to you. You've already paid, You're running back top dollar. You've paid your center top dollars, you paid your guard top back, You've paid, You've paid your defensive in the richest contracts
in Cowboys history. Somewhere along the way, some dudes got to come in here on these t J Maxteas contract talking about well, well, we said on a couple of players lounges back. But you know, I felt I gotta go ahead and take care of the guy up front. I gotta take care of the guy in front to take care of the guy in the back. And this is also for me. I feel like I can get someone at seventeen in the draft at corner and I'm gonna this is why I'm gonna go to my coach,
Mike go. I need I need you to work to Matt, you and Al Harris need you guys, works some magic, because this is gonna be where you start to take this team if you execute the contracts that you say you want to for Cooper and Prescott, You've got to start to figure out, how do we draft guys, especially your guys in the first three rounds? How do we draft these guys, develop these guys and have these guys here for four and five years UM at a low cost. It's gonna be tough. So do you think we have
the depth here? I was gonna say so. So our top two corners right now, they who are not service so we can. But he's a free agent. I'm saying that they can also choose to pay him, Like, is this just out of the question. We have to go get a corner if we lose Byron and then we leave on us side because I think Jordan, I don't know if Jordan can consistently plan on he's I don't think. I think, Well, his price tag may go down because of the injury. Yeah, so price tag may go down.
And I look at drafting a corner from this standpoint with a Woozier and Lewis becoming free agents. After the season, you've got to start to rebuild it. But then I have someone tell me who's covered the team a long time. He said, well, after you let Byron Jones go, if you blow up your whole DBS back there, he says, are you losing anything? He said, what have they? What have they truly accomplished and done? That's true, you know
this ain't the legion Steves back here. So so from that stage, and and you think about how Belichick and I know we're always talking with the outlier, but Belichick a Pete Carroll, guys who've gone out, who have specialties and secondaries and decided to, hey, let's go change some pieces and add some things here and there. But at some point in time, that's what you have to do as a team. You're going to have some warts. You're gonna how do we fill it in here? How do
we go find some value guys? How do we find guys that fit? And that'll be the interesting thing about Mike Nolan and what Mike Nolan and Will McClay and how they get into a room and figure out how do we go about finding guys who fit exactly what it is we do. Tell me do you think Mike Nolan is pushing it all for Byron Jones to be here? No,
not at all. The and this this is great you say this, and I don't have the exact quote, but it was somewhere along the lines of, Hey, I fear the guy who can or you know, give me the guy who can take it back sits something something Yet, yes, it's not afraid to throw it that somebody who can bat the ball down or something like that. Yeah, don't, don't bring Peter's back here. It'll be upset people in me here from from New York's the Squad on everything
you're talking about, Jack Rabbit. He go ahead, listen, go out there and just focus on interceptions if you want to, you'd be giving up a lot of yard balls. That is true. I specifically see Michael Thomas running down the field of Marcus Peters twenty eighth. Yeah, go over. So I think that Byron Jones is going to find a
great contract, but he's a productive player. And this is something that happens a lot of times in the NFL where free agents because teams are desperate, they're gonna pay a high note because that's what they've got to do to get a guy. I mean, and you go ahead and you do, or you got teams that know, all right, we're not great. So in order for us to get you, we gotta rack you a great check. So so you say, mamma, look at these numbers. They're not any good. Mamma, look
at these numbers. You'll get out of bed in. Your agent says, I know they're not any good, but look at these numb numbers. Look at these numbers, and that's that's what you're gonna have to have to do. But along the way, if the Calgoies are going to execute these deals that they want you, they're going to have to find guys that they that they pay a little bit less money to develop. And you go from there.
You cannot sign everyone. That's that's that thing. In a way, Byron was done in by not being a But if let's say he was free at you last year, probably is a deal done. Yeah, the whole timing, I mean, you're standing in line right here, and it's tough because Amari Cooper. In my opinion, this is where we'll differ. I believe Cooper is more valuable than Jones. If you were going to go out here and give Dak Prescott a big time contract, which the owner says he's going
to do. You must bring and you must keep the number one receiver. Mike McCarthy, your new head coach has come here and he's already said, I want Cooper and I want Cop back. Cop played for him in Green Bay. So if the head coach is new and he's coming in here telling you this is what he wants to do, and he wants the quarterback and he thinks the quarterback as super Bowl, you gotta bring Cooper back. You've put yourself in this position that you now have to write
the chip. Just don't take Cooper on the road. Now, let's good, good, Let's hear from it to night. Let's hear for the four time Pro bowler on one oh five three the fan. Yeah, I mean listen, I love being a Dallas Cowboy. Um. I love everything about it. I was just thinking about that today. I think about it almost every day really, you know, just primetime games because we play it seems like more nine games than anybody and that always feels good to a football player.
You know everything, the facility. I love it here, Crystal, I said, Now, mister, all of being a Dallas Cowboy. I mean, you can't beat it. So I want to be a Dallas cow wars for a lot. So that is Amari Cooper on one h five three the Fan. Here is my take and what you know? I want you guys to give me your how you translated, Amari Cooper. I used to play at Alabama. We were on TV every week. It was a brand, and people loved the brand of Alabama. I would to the Raiders. I got vanished.
It was a really bad facility I played in and the organization was kind of I come back here to Dallas. Now I'm on TV every week. I might be able to line up some endorsements. Amasis especially when I see Jalen Smith is getting some stuff, so I can get some of that too. I get me a little taste. I want to be where the brand is. I want to be in at the Cowboys and the quarterback and I we get along, and the quarterback is going to be here. I want to be next to the guy
that guy. That's how I took that comment. All right, Barry Church and go first, had you take it? I agree with you one hundred percent on that. I mean, I feel like you know in Alabama, he was he was a part of a brand. He was a part of this you know, Big Time. We're Saturday nights, We're Saturday evenings, whatever. And when he came here, they gain you know, night games, like he said, Monday night primetime,
Thursday night primetime. And if you listen to the interview, this is the first interview I've heard from him where he actually seemed excited, like he seemed like there was some upbeat to him. Like those other interviews he sold just just melancholy, just you know, level, just yeah, you know, this is how I do. But this one, he asked, he seemed like he had some excitement about it. Just
love being talking about dogs, love being in Dallas. So I think it's all about the brand for him, expanding his own brand, and the best player to do that is with this organization. No poke holes in it, Danny. You know, I think that as well. But also think that that grass ain't green. On the other side. Oh that's also that's also becoming something that said at the front of his mind, I was in I was in Oakland,
and the facilities were bad. They probably did training camp someone when he didn't like no, it wasn't well, it was the set up like it was a residence here. Yes, okay, I'll take that one. I'll take that one anyway. So it wasn't as good. So he comes here. He's in Frisco, up and coming city. They got training camp out there, back in California. Whether's nights. He got his own room at the residences, dorm rooms. It's all love here. Everything
is first class. They riding trains to back and when it was there San Diego like everything that Jerry does his first class. So he walks from Oakland to here and it's like, where where else would I get this? Nowhere? I know what a matter of fact, let me show some excitement because because because the other options could be horrible for me, and no holes, and it's the brand. The brand's also it's comfortable in the south of where he's you know, Alabama's in the south. We're in the
south over here. Yeah, he just likes this. Maybe just not not very comfortable living out of here. You got he got you walking? Yeah, boy, what's up? You know? Access a lot of pros right to being here with the cowbit, and I feel like those things will weigh into that and they will get something done. It's just a matter of how they do it. You also, and this is where tech Tram and the Cowboys had really
were so smart by being in the NFC East. You get in New York, number one TV market out there, you're Washington, You're out there on the East coast, Nation's capital, Philadelphia, you know top you know, top six, top six TV market, I mean right out there. I mean, and and you play in the Eastern time zone, so people see your games.
When you were with the Raiders, you're playing the late games there, and so you contrast those markets versus when you were with the Raiders playing playing the Chargers, playing Kansas City, playing Denver. I mean, you're just not going to get the kind of juice. And as you talked about with the Cowboys, NBC's maximum a team can be on Sunday Night Football is three. Cowboys get three games every year, three and usually they're on the first two weeks of the season. So they try to get Cowboys
in as quick as they can. So you got three NBC games. They're always on Monday Night Football. That's four national games. You're on Thanksgiving Day the holding three three o'clock. No competition that's five. Then now they played the other Thursday night game. That's six games right there. If you're really good, they're gonna flex the game, probably in a NBC CBS is gonna get you for at least one prize. I remember the Jets game this year, the Jets, that
was really good. It just has to be. It would be put the Cowboy. The Cowboys and the Jets were there Prime Time Romo and Nance, and I said myself, wait a minute, they've been the Jets have been getting killed and Donald's been out a month. How is this a game of the week because it's the Cowboys. Yeah, it was, though it was someone weble to talk about. Oh man, we came out and played talking about right, and so so that's the ability to me. If you were if you can get your number and you stay
with the Cowboys, you do it. You were in the position you couldn't get your number, so you had to go to go. But if you could have got your nums staying here, even if it was a meal short, I would have probably stayed here five hundred thousand last week. He said, no, now you're talking about a million. Yes. In front of his mind too. He was driving through the day. He was like, you know what now of
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Barry Church, then Craig. We do what every Friday, eleven p m. Central Time from the Star Tony Rowlands seventeen million dollars. Hello, Hello broadcast. He gotta be doing more secure one game. Yeah, CBI refused to believe he's just doing football. He gotta do golf. He seventeen. Look for the season seventeen. He's making a middle game to call a game color commentary. He drops back the past. What hey, congratulations to the undrafted free at from Eastern Illinois. Talk
about two million because he got a hundred million. He was the high paid NFL for a minute, timing Jesus. I mean, I remember when when when the no I was talking with somebody close to Tony. They were they were talking ten mili, ten mili, that's what I heard, and I was still like blue pet. They meant to say stephen a because they were here in the wrong one that Stephen ain't got ten and then plus seven. But you want these services, and look, it's all about
whatever your folks can get you. C AA is good at what they that is true. They also represent some guy named Dak Prescott. C A GE's people paid. Yeah, they do. And the other thing that works for them too, is it people also want to go over there. I mean, this is the end of the day. Oh hey, yeah, we're CIA. We just got Tony Roma. Would you like to join us? Oh yeah, yes I would. I would love it. Yes, I would love to let me get
a third of that. Yes, so so good for Tony Romo, And I don't when you talk about what else is he going to do? I don't really know if they're going to have him do any golf because Tony enjoys playing it. Tony right now still trying to actually be a competitive golfer himself, So I don't really see Tony out here doing doing these golf events. A million of game.
I mean, get your money, man, get you money. I was like, you said, people, So if they're gonna pay him seventeen MILLI game, how much money are they making off the NFL's got to be how much of CBS pulling in. It's like own owners don't go broke paying people. CBS is not gonna go broke paying Tony Romos. They are already paying on us. But you ain't ask him to take a hometown. Did he ever take a hold of Hey, Look, Cia is doing a great job for an Tonio Ramiro Romo, So good good for you, Candice
and the boys. Set for life, Set for life, all right. The Undefeated dot com came out with an article and the headline says, not to be forgotten, Kobe Bryant was a black man who even now I dived into this and this is a whole big column about questioning Kobe Bryant's blackness and authenticity of being black, and it absolutely drove me crazy. And a part of this says because Bryant's blackness has been a source of contention in debate since ever since he was a high school phenom in Philadelphia.
Bryant's father, Joe, told The New York Times in nineteen ninety six that his son was quote not a stereotypical black kid from an urban setting end quote. Bryant. His father added that he had both parents, two older sisters in college, good grades, at a good suburban school, and it was kind of had a kind of sophistication about him. Now, look, I'm gonna tell you this right now. I was around Kobe Bryant for four years, from his rookie year till
they won their first championship. At no point in time did I ever questioned Kobe's blackness or felt like Kobe didn't know he was black. Kobe Bryant came into the league talking like and had a bald head and wanted to be Michael Jordan, and he had that type of work ethic. And when I read this, and I go into this where they talk about, well, you know, there's Alan I ever said he had the tattoos, he had the corn rows, and people Philadelphia related more to him.
Even though Kobe was from Philadelphia, Philadelphia didn't exactly embrace him.
That somehow Kobe Bryant wasn't blacking them, which bothers the absolute living daylights out of me, because I just think it is so wrong that we unless somehow you fit into a cultural stereotype, but you think someone black should be that somebody from the If you're NBA and you're black, that you must somehow not have had a father around, that you grew up in the projects somewhere, and somehow you avoided ten ten rounds of gunfire to go to school every day. But then they said, oh look it's him.
Let her to the blacktop. Everybody put your guns down, gangs, leave them alone. That's our that's our shines. Guy. He's gonna be the next doctor. Like just people, not even just about sports. It's just the fact that the general relation. General relation comes in that it's just one way for a black person to be. Yes, it's just one one, that's all. So you have to be from the ghetto. You have to have a single parent, like a single
parent home. All this has to be true for you to like really beat black and be able to embrace it. Everybody don't grow up like that. It don't. He's not even a typical Like he's not even a typical athlete. I mean, this is a guy who can speak with the three, three or four different languages. I mean this guys all start an NBA, had a great career, and then his post career, his second career was almost it was becoming even better than his first career. I mean,
he's just not a typical person. There's plenty of educated black men that have not come from the hood, and they came from from parents that were wealthy exactly, and they still can't understand that they are black and what they came from. That has nothing to do with how black cople brown. Let me read more of this from The Undefeated. For some Bryant wasn't black enough. He didn't marry a black woman, his afro was too nappy. He, like Michael Jordan, didn't speak out on social issues. He
was a seller. Bryant's class status separated him from other black superstars. Early in his career, some NBA player said they couldn't relate to Brian because of his upgreen upbringing as both a suburban kid and the son of an NBA player. According to a twenty twelve Washington Post story, Philadelphians accepted Alan Iverson as their own over Kobe Bryant, despite Iverson growing up three hundred miles away in Hampton, Virginia.
Kobe Bryant never outwardly acknowledged the question about questions about his blackness, but it was clear he was aware of his reputation because he thought it was dumb and he didn't he didn't need to defend it. Yeah. Now let me also throw this out here. Okay, Um, black players haven't exactly done a good job of brushing and tearing
down some of these stereotypes. If you watched that Fab five documentary that Jalen Rose helped produced, Jalen Rose talked in there that they thought about the black guys at Duke's. When I was doing my radio show at NBC Sports Radio, I had a good conversation station with Jason Williams. By Jason got fired up because it was this premise that somehow Jason wasn't black enough. And the other guy they
heard it too, and they didn't like it. And my thing was it was frustrated me and I love Jalen as a person could do, but we go penalize Grant because his parents with the college and they gave me every advantage that they could. Versus Jalen's dad, who wasn't NBA player Jimmy Walker. Okay, his dad wasn't. Dad wasn't in his life. Dad basically didn't claim. I just feel like, how is this? How does this make you more black? This is it's one word. This is jealousy. It's envy
like and it can be that. But you don't have to question who they are because of that. Oh yeah, you wish that you grew up, you know, and in a better place with two famish too, parent household and all that stuff. You wish that happened. It didn't happen for you. Don't hit on the next dude because they got it. We're not gonna see that hate on Romo because we throw the podcast over. He gets grabs to you. You nobody like, it's no reason for somebody to hate
like that. And that's just envious man, you know, changing for yourself or changing for your kids. But don't hate on the next person, because your kids are now the people that exactly so you so you got money and they grew up wealthy, so now somebody else can call them the same thing that you're gonna be calling the dudes from exactly and you when you mentioned the word, hey,
I call self hate. That's some self hate where you sit around here and you look at this guy and and like you and you know the envia, Well he had this, he's not really black. When I speak at schools, I try to make it a point to to message myself to the minority kids and just say, look, um, don't fall into this stereotype that you are being white if you get good grades because you're black or Latino, and don't don't fall into that. Don't fall into the you're acting white if you sit to the front of
the class the end of the day. If you want to go to Wall Street, go to Wall Street, but hanging out on a corner street, it's not gonna get you where you want to go. But do not fall into that, and do not fall into me, Oh well you you talk white. No, No, if you speak English, you speak English. You do not have to use ebonics
to be quote unquote black. I mean, you have a lot of these kids that are in elementary school and junior high that feel this stuff and think they have to act a certain way and be and you know, it's just wrong. Did these stereotypes had been pushed by media of what they think that you are. If you're black or brown, you you are. We've got to stop that. And that's one of the things that I always say, and I have teachers who come up to me afterwards
thank you for saying that. I mean, I would have people who would who would get on me because I was on the debate team when I was in high school. I remember guys getting honest because we played baseball. Seriously, bank you play that's a white boy sport like And what I come back to is one, yourself haye treated Two you also don't know enough about black people exactly.
You think that's all that you know. I mean, if you want to say, go go read about Jackie Robs, go read about you know, Joe Black and Don Newcomb and how many great black players have shaped the game. So so I always there's a lot of stubset this self Patreon also just not ignorance. A lot of people don't know about black history, right, They don't know enough about black history to even understand where did you come from when you come out and you say crazy statements.
But baseball is a white man's sport. No, no, it's not, it's not. We didn't always have the opportunity to play at the major league level. But you go back, you start to look at the negro leagues, look at cool Papa Belt as you see, there's a lot of great players there. So it's it's this article frustrated me because it just brought up so many stereotypes that are absolutely wrong. Kobe Bryant, um was black is you and me and everybody else. Um, buddy mine is a speaker named Del
Tour McNeil. He has a great line he says, celebrate your own uniqueness because if two of us are the same, one of us is not needed. That is true. And too many times we wanted to point out to someone like Kobe Bryant, who's who's unique, and just saying you don't fit into the stereotype. So therefore we got to take your car. When Oscar Deloya was fighting out in La and became a world champion. I worked out there. There were people in La Okay Oscar East La owned
who didn't like him. People were saying he was really his own people. Man, he's not a real Mexican fighter. He doesn't he doesn't stand in there at throw blows. They loved childs who says chid? I mean, and I could not believe. Then when Oscar got a house at the beach, there were people out there saying, the Oscar man, you're not real. You left? Would you want him to go back? Who wouldn't want to live in the beach?
I mean, And I could not believe the own self hate, hatred that he suffered in his own community instead of people staying out there, Hey Oscar, thank you man, thank you for doing what you Thank you for being a wall by. It is like the Undefeated, by the way, well, but the Undefeated is is ESPN's African American website. But
these articles are geared towards African Americans. I'm like, this is what you guys are writing, this is this is the catalyst of that, Like this is something that somebody would read and they would say, oh, yeah, you're right. He showed us rich. He showed this in the front
of the class. He showed this, So maybe he's not especially if this problem or these problems that people would write this article and then somebody younger reads it and then all of a sudden they feel the same way, or somebody in that situation of where they are they are poor, or they are in a single parent household, and they read that, and I was it's like confirming how they feel. I knew this was happening. Yeah, I knew.
Everybody said that, even even Jay jay le Roe said that. Man, look where he's I knew it continues because one of stuff like that and then of ignorance. You know, nobody's gonna teach them. Well you you tried, but you got to have many voices speaking there, not a few. Know. All we can do is you take our platform and let let kids know that you know there is shoot. Education is your way out. You don't have to just throw a ball to get out of there, right, There's
plenty of different ways to get out of there. Look in the mirror, Broby was black like, yeah, man, you want you want to go deep into that? Stuff is crazy to me. I don't but a lot of times I'll tell you the lack of what true African American history is for you some of these comments. At times, you guys have to sit around here truly know what it is you're talking about. This is a song Janet Jackson many many years ago got it to an old frat brother of mine, and the song was called black Cat, Heavy,
heavy guitars in there. And the guy says to me, man, Janet Jackson got away from her black roots in that song. I'm like, what, yeah, man, rock and roll? I was like you he don't even know Robert Johnson started rock roll? Right, do you know about black folks and rock and roll? Like wow, ignorant? But but but that, But this is the prevalent things at times where we had to check people on and check outs like stop this, what are
you talking about? Stop this? Or the Rolling Stones to say it's a very very international popular man, but that's named after Muddy Water song. The Rolling Stones and Beatles, these guys were all influenced by black artists. You said. Jass started on say oh it's a rocket roll, no fool, you know it's your music, right, start like go crack a book open. That becomes a big problem, all right, let's dive now into politics, because Danny mccrage, you were
you were, you were, Oh, Tom Man, Danny was. Danny was um. Like many people, I saw the videos Friday night of Democratic presidential candidate Tom Styre with juvenile hot boys owned let him, let him Bouce San Francisco. Lead that over there with a microphone, dancing and trying to to sing along with Juvie's song. Back that ass up, and I think it was his wife in the background dancing off feet and I probably hit that he headed in his ear. He said, two thousands he did that.
I saw that video on Sunday, no Friday, and I think late Sunday night Monday, he was out at the president. Give us example, give us the examples of how hot it's the same man. I told you. Man. Look, if you go around the city and you see some of these establishments and they start to fall along hard times, you know that they followed my hard times because all of a sudden they have a hip hop urban night
there it is black Knight. Ye. Once the hip hop urban night come, usually by two months after that the place is closed. On the last two rod, we know they're gonna show up. Hip hop specifically Nickel and Ride. You know you can't get in here, my man, twenty five man. We used we used to go to clutch Back uh back in the day, and we used to
have the hardest time getting in that establishment. And guess what they do on Sunday, Hip number black vos, come on, give you some chicken and waffle, and then here go Tom. He said, you know what I need to get the black voters. I gotta find a way. I know, if I can get them on my side, then I gotta, I gotta. I got a shot. Who was hot back in Huh? You passed up Drake a lot of a lot of guys. Maybe he was running a long fund. That's what we can get Julie in here for about
a hundred. That's I told y'all about Juvenile though weeks back over the vouching for he did say that vouching for San Francisco to be the hot boys, and I said that that is irrelevant now. The dudes don't even know juven now. And it's obvious because the people that Tom was trying to influence had no idea who juven wasn't a pack, They didn't even know who like that That's how he looked. They just know the song. I give Tom credit. What's going on space? So here it
is South Carolina primary. Joe Biden, who had poor showings in Iowa and New Hampshire, bet at all on South Carolina. Okay, that's where he was. It was basically, man, if you you not, you had to win, not coming second, you had to win. He put it off. He put all the chips in South Carolina. And what did he do. He got Congressman Jim Clydeburn to stand up for him. Jim Clydeburn, long time African American congressman in South Carolina. I used to work down there, so everybody knew. Jim.
Jim said this our guy. Rally the troops until you comparven. Okay, Tom Sire storry to see Jim Clyburn got Joe all this momentum. You like anybody what? What? Oh? That's where I need to go, Julie, come on. And at the end of the day, Joe Biden wins. And how did Joe Biden win in South Caroline? Black? So Tom Stire had his people because you know, he didn't come up with us. He didn't know what his people have the right idea. They just can't wait too late. You can't
wait too late. And then you didn't get the kingmaker Jim Clyburn to help you out. It's two losers in this right. Because I'm gonna tell you something. Juven not lost. He got mad, but he definitely lost. He has no more pull, ain't he ain't. Nobody else called the juven now to talk to get some black people to come from him. That is over. It's a one time deal, ain't happening. So he got his back. That one type won't happen again. So he his election is over, as will.
We would not hear another seat from Julie Gonna. But he ain't to be bouching out from New Orleans. Serviances. Go and lead the high boys right here with us. I think because it's the way elections work, and because it's Tom Stiy dude, dude, most people didn't know about it'll be long gone forgotten. People don't forget about it. Give me a me believe that they realized that they probably didn't get nothing on social except it was funny. They you forgot about that time Hammer was doing the
Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial. The dance hold on yeahc was out there dancing for chicken and water. They know walpfles. It was just chicken. Mary j. Blige was singing for She was singing a chicken commerce. Let me get some chicken. No and see you forgot times. You know at some point in time, Man, we all have a moment. We liked it. Ju the greatest done, I said Barry J was on the corner of singing for chicken. Who is going on the new streets? Man, I've learned something to
every day. Man. It's crazy. Hey, like Romo baby right that chair, we gonna like this. Listen. If he really wanted to get the people on the side, he wouldn't have out there and got we bay and uh and even the day he would have got the people to get out there and come and come help. Mind. Now, the sad thing is he's he's a billionaires. He could have got whoever you want. Missing form, you know he's missing form. Somebody's Jean, which is also why he's no
longer in the relation. He asked the last pardon, what's the last song on your on your playlist? Let me again, let me get this back. That's what's on there. Jude who agreed to. They probably call thirty people and it was like, nah, bro, we good, I got you back. The people follow me. Let's take our last ring here. Let's dive into the Dallas Cowboys quarterback and the latest trade rumor involving Rain Dakota Prescott on the player's lounge
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Shout out to my boys and usc Pembroke one the Peach Belt Conference. Congratulations okay season now and in the Peach Bell Tournament. Looking forward to the Division two Uh making the playoffs are Division two tournament. You see see exactly where it is we go, so we got two winners in the building Church. You want something lately or you know I'll be back. I'll be back, all right, I'll be back the mac mac lead up. So we don't actually doing dcent in basketball member wrestling team want
to come to conference. The regionals are in. So yeah, man, Dave, we got a good wrestling program. That's one of those sports that never ever, ever I looked and said, I want to do that. You write about that. One who knew we had wrestling team. Any thing I went ever went to a wrestler. Ray Lewis was a great wrestler. He was a great wrestler. It's one of those sports
that then while the coach tried to get me there. Um, if you're an offensive lineman or a linebacker with a wrestling background, it helps you out here because you learned about leverage and everything there. So Sean McDermott, the head coach of the Buffalo Bills, he was a he was a big wrestler. But it's a it's it helps, it helps, It's just something I just had no desires to do. Um. Doc Prescott waiting on a new contract. Okay, we're still
waiting on the CBA. The players are looking over four hundreds some pages of it to see if they ratified how many players they really want to look over there? They just bought you gonna count out the first and second year players, you count the third you might get a few of them. Four fifth sixes. You know, people on their way out, So do they just call the agent say tell me what it says? How does that work?
Ended up having in a meeting? They had a meeting and then the rep will kind of break down the bigger parts, and you just really have to trust your rep to relate the correct message and the stuff that you really know that it's really important to everybody, not just the people at the top of the rosters. You
gotta have that trust in him. So Dak Prescott and the Cowboys are still negotiating, but not they have yet to reach a deal, and the Cowboys are basically Seppal franchise Dak, but he's going to be laughing with the day. So I'm coming into the Star today and someone who's who's working here says, hey, did you hear the ESPN story? And I said, nah, what is said? Well, trade Dak
to Miami, get a pick and get to it. And I said, well, that's one reason why I don't really paid that much attention to what ESPN because I said, and I said, here, here's where I get frustrated by stuff like that. The owner just spent ninety minutes with the media last week in Indianapolis telling you he wanted Dak Prescott and then he threw out the whole. I think that Dak Prescott as a son. What more do you have to hear from the owner that he wants
the player. We can all have these thoughts about what we think of what we want, but the man who signs the check says he wants it. Tell me the last guy who walked out of here that the owner wanted. Yea, that doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. So also when I hear this, well, we're gonna trade Dak and send him to Miami and take the pick and somehow get to it all right if a boat, Yes, there's a couple
of reasons the owners seventy seven. He's not trying to start over with a guy who's just into two last year college careers injured. You don't know if he can sit up here and execute the offense that Mike McCarthy wants. Mike McCarthy's a guy who's spoken about how he liked Dak Prescott when he was job out there, you know, shopping his way. So here's the quarterback he wants. Why do people throw this stuff out here and why people
slopping it without thinking think think. Now here's the other thing you really think Dak Prescott, who grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan, who's making all this money and endorsements, wants to go to Miami. Do you think for people at Oikos and seven to eleven and Tostitos want him with the Miami Dolphins? Come on, your brand is damaged when you go there. This is true. It's you know, sorry, Dolphins not beating up, but you haven't been a winning organization.
You're not on TV as much as the Cowboys. I'm telling you, man, the brand, the brands don't want you to the end when it comes to the NBA. Don't think these shoe companies aren't involved when they're talking with these players talk about going to these different markets. That's true. You think Anthony Davis's folks aren't happy that he's now in lost first being in New Orleans? All right? You know, Kevin Durant, all right, you go from the Warriors and
now you're you're over there in Brooklyn. I mean you're still you know, they didn't want to see this dude going to the Orlando Magic. That stuff is big in their So for Dak Prescott, who makes more money and endorsements than he does playing on the fielder's first four years in National Football League, these things that people are talking about what he's gonna do makes absolutely zero sense. Yeah, I think it makes zero sense. I think people are just out there trying to do click baton, trying to
get him to go somewhere else. But I think he'll be here for good or at least for the next year. You know what I'm saying. I think they'll get a slap, they'll slap the franchise tag on him. But in saying that, is there a quarterback out there that you think Dallas would go go for rather than a young Rayne Prescott? M is there or you think he's the best bet? Yeah, that's available. Let's just say, yeah, we even gonna go into like and all right, Greton, you said that because
here comes the thing. Damn, who's going to be available? If you're Tennessee, you're probably gonna franchise. Yeah. Um, does Mike McCarthy want to work with a forty three year old Tom Brady? There's a forty three year old Tom Brady want to come down play with the cousin entice me. Just do you want Philip interception game once available that be available? Yes, TB twelve, James Winston, I would take TB twelve because I think he would have the most
around him at this point. He would have he would have Coop, he would have Cob solid, he would have Seat slid line and they just got to work on the defense. These are all things that he is wanting but ain't happening. Will he show up and practice with that tag? No, I ain't, no way, ain't no way. You probably want to practice with that tag, but I think they get the deal done. So explain to people
when you talk about not practicing with the tag. Yeah, those are voluntary workouts when you come in and you don't really have to be there, but the coaches really encourage you to come to Captain's workouts. He won't show up for those, ota those on the field workhouts. He won't be like mandatory. I think maybe ain't gonna do that. It don't cost. And when you talk about a new head coach wanting to put in his system leverage exactly, yeah, all the leverage in the world. Would you wanna put
a Cooper rush back there and let him learn. I don't know. This is where fans don't realize the whole leverage that Dak Prescott has here. And I consistently hear this other thing on Twitter. He hasn't won a Super Bowl, so why should he get more than Russell Wilson? Why should he get more than Anne Rodgers? Um. I laugh at that because all quarterbacks doers reset the markets. Jimmy Garoppolo off seven stars, became the highest paid quarterback in
the NFL, and then someone jumped and leverage. Jimmy had the leverage of fate. I'm telling you fans in San Francisco not only weren't going, they were suing their fans because they were. They reniged on paying the PSL money. Jimmy brought him hope, so they paid the franchise costs. Dak knows the owner seventy seven years old. And what do we see? The Cowboys tell us, you know what, we're not resetting the market and running back, I say, leverage, here you go, Dad leg left and reset the market.
So if you see that happening, and that's with the running back in the quarterback and the older was saying, I'm not stepping on the field. I'm not showing up to the star. And I get that thing. He sayotus pat my home if I'm patrick my hole. I'm not stepping man, I'm not stepping on the field. No, no, no, no, you know, maybe baby, when the workout started, if I'm dak out taking a selfie in France, might were together. He ain't coming. I would, I wouldn't. No, I wasn't good.
It's not money. Yeah, go out there and get hurt of something you just it ain't And I go back to one more time. I say it again, keeps the hammer in his home. The owner's seventy seven years old. He wants to win now, right now. He wants to win now, and he's going to write the check and they're going to get it done. So what do you think the hold up is? It? Just think it's the years. They got a fair way to get both of them,
and then you got the CBA looming as well. I think it's you know, it's a few go back, in my opinion, go back to the at least for me. In twenty years of covering the team, and Stephen Jones has set this before deadlines, make deals, they get a lot of stuff done at the deadline. That's true. That's that's you know when time they got When did the Zeke deal get done? We couldn't. Okay, we get close. They get deals done, so they got a few months for the deck. Right after they after they tag him,
he goes it's June, is it. I think it goes all the way to camp, right, Yeah, he goes to camp. Yeah, he got it. Get it'll get into the summer. But still and that's when you start and how am I going to learn? And I go into that whole thing. It won't get that far with him because you need him to implement the offense. You got to have him bout ots. What's crazy is we all the CBA needs to get past this is true. We're gonna talking like that.
It's like not not going on right now. It's a gift in the curt If it doesn't get signed, the Cowboys, you're in a better position because then they get throw our two tags. You can attack Cooper and attack that CBA gets signed, you will you take one away. So you have two dudes sitting out, But I think something will get done because it's in their best Interesting is they're going to help the coach. What he's not going.
You can't sit up here, bring in this new coaching staff and write this check and then hamper yourself on your own account. Okay, can do it. This is you have the ability to write the checks. That's what they have to do. And that's where you don't have enough room for Byron Jones. This is where you're gonna have to try and find some some some money and and actually some hit on some free agents. But this is this, to me is the fun part of what's going on.
That's why I don't buy in all these things about we're gonna trade this person here, we're gonna trade that. No, these are the guys they want. And when the owner wants a guy going keeping in the same way they tried to get tanked the tens, get your eighteen tanks at price went up, Try and play twenty and what tank get twenty? He earned it? He tag twice, Yes, so they got a twin zie. Not resetting the market,
you know what, zike, he said, the market. I expect Dak Prescott to have a big time contract, and I expect Amark Cooper to make probably a little bit less money than Julio Jones. Where's the other twenty somewhere? Because Michael was the high at twenty. Yeah. So I mean so if you you get them right underneath there, then then I think that I think that's what we'll see. Yeah, they're just too important to what Mike McCarthy wants to do. That's true and what this team needs. They need both guys.
You need Cooper, you need Dak. I expect it to be done. Cooper's gone. Always bring Dad's back, you know, eight ba baby, bring it back, bring it back well before we leave. Hey, man, if y'all need something to do over spring break, yeah, comes out. Spring break is next week. We got our DCRB camp. We have a few high school clams for DCC. Y'all gonna sign up at www dot Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Academy. Come
see us. Man is Dallas. So we need uh, you know, I know y'all looking for stuff for the kids to do while the y'all for the weekend. I want to just be sitting in the house the whole time, sit them up in with us with the Cowboys. We'll take good cares. By the way, the next time we make it back we're not going to his spot again because we went to the spot. He even, he even, he admitted the spot made it that location was not good. Yes,
the Frankfurt location is good. The Lombardi location is good. Here. I don't know why the sources are water like that, bro, you must have told water. Yeah, I don't like you know, listen, he ate it though, he said the fun dude was good and the Scampi butter was good. It would have been better had they had the right consistency with the sauce. I'm just telling you, honestly, man, I just said that to make you really, just said that to make you feel head. What happens? Man? I stopped and got a
burger on like, man, he's an alligator. You didn't know it out burger right over chicken tenders in front I'm trying to get. I figured I figured, okay, this can't be bad, right because this is something it's easy. And they said it was a Cajun spicy chicken tender. He had it before he knew it wasn't gonna be good. He said itself, that's tough. That's tough. What it is. It is what it is, all right, we will do this again. You're here next week. I'm here because I
told you. I'm back next week. I'm back, Okay, Danny mccraie, Berry Church I. This has been the play Is Lounge. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club
