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Longtime Cowboys reported joined by the Talina Rocket himself. He is Buried Church, Danny the Crag with another day off Church. How we doing, man, I'm doing great, man. And if you can see there, I was repping Danny Team Danny Man and Gain Survivor. I had the shirt up put the people out there man season forty one. Um, you know hey, I was shouting out to my boy man. He had a heck of a game. Heck of a game.
I'm extremely impressed to how he played that game, and I'm sure we'll dive into it a lot tomorrow when he returns. But man, it was a heck of a game. I'm proud of my boy out there. I've never watched the show's survivor. So the first forty seasons never checked out. I was there for you, and I could see why people enjoy it. Did become addictive to watch you were you did find yourself rooting for personalities. And I did
not think Danny was going home. I thought it would be Deshaun who got got but thus that is the game. But Danny, Danny left, and he left in a good position. Man. You know, I don't think anybody had any hatred or malice toward Danny. I played a good game, man, so I will dive into it tomorrow. And um, you know, good on him to live out one of his reality dreams. I mean to be able to be on that show and go competing and go as far as he did
and last as long as he did and represent himself. Man, I'm happy for him while they love man, that's good stuff without a doubt. And real quick, real quick. One. They made a mistake not getting rid of a card last week. That man's gonna mess around and win the whole thing because can't nobody beat him in the immunity. So that's one. What the happento this tomorrow. But two, man, my boy hit him with the gold cowboys in a wink. I said, all, man, what don't be throwing it out here? Man?
What's going on? But I loved it. You gotta love it. You gotta love it because you know he's putting all, he's putting all for the boys out there, man. And just the way they edited, how they set it up, man, it was a It was a good salute, like let's see y'all later, man. So I'm gonna definitely give him a little bit for that tomorrow. But like you said, man, the guy played the heck of a game. Couldn't be more proud of the boy. I tweeted it out there, man,
I loved it. I loved it because somebody on Twitter's like, this is the worst part. This is the worst part I've ever survived. I was like, I loved it. Some cowboy hater. It was some cowboy hater up there. And somebody else was like, well, I prefer to think of him as a Chicago bear, and like, okay, okay, yeah, here we go. But good stuff there. Hey, how about Mike McCarthy today making a little news on social media
and people running up the headlines of what he said. Now, I'm kind of gonna let you hear what Mike McCarthy said about going up to Washington this week for the Cowboys and whether or not in your mind this is bullets and boardmantier Chris being played the cut from Mike McCarthy's from today's press conference with the with the Dallas Fort Worth Media. We know what people think of us. We love that. We're comfortable who we are where we are.
But I'm excited about what's in front of us because you know, we you know, we're gonna win this game. I'm confident in that and just you know, the prep that's going into it. But more importantly, we're gonna you know, we want to improve too along the way. So I think that's all part about what the challenge of December of football give you. All Right, I couldn't really hear it very well, Chris, but Mike McCarthy and I just wrote down some of what he says. We're going to
Washington to win. We are going to win this game. I'm confident in that. That's the major portion of what people are talking about on social media. And when Mike says it and you hear it, it's not Jimmy Johnson's proclamation we will win the ball game. Put it in three inch bold letters, like he said Randy Galloway back in the nineties. But here's Mike McCarthy saying, we're going here to win, and we're gonna win this football game. That's what we're gonna go do. I had no issues
with it. Church. You played this football, You played the game of football. You're safety in the league for the Cowboys and the Jaguars. Tell me how you took it. If I'm if I'm a Cowboys player, like if I'm one of those guys in a locker room going to practice, teaching every day, put my heart on a line for the team, I'm loving it. I'm loving it like if I'm a Boys player, I'm loving it because you love to hear. As a player, you love to hear your
coach have that much confidence in you guys. When he goes out there and says, you know what, we're gonna go win this game. We're going up there to play the game, and we're gonna win the game, it means that he has confidence in all three levels of the game. He feels like his team is better, whether it's talent wise, coaching wise, execution wise, whatever the case may be, he feels confident enough to say, you know what, We're gonna go up there and win the game, because it can backfire.
It can backfire immensely if they go up there and get beat down or even lose a close game, it could backfire a lot. So if I'm a player for the Dallas Cowboys, I'm like, all right, I gotta make my coach right now. That means I gotta lick in, I gotta go up there, and I gotta put my a game on because if we lose, not only does it embarrass us as players, but it embarrasses our coach as well. And he put all this confidence in into us thinking we can go up there and get the
dub and basically seal up the division. So if I'm a Cowboys player, I love it. If I'm Washington, if I'm a part of that football team over there, I'm using this as bill board material. This to me is like one of them Nick Sirianni beat Dallas Cowboys shirts he had on earlier in the season. I'm using that as billboard material. I'm saying, look, this coach is coming up here into your house thinking that y'all don't even
stand a chance. Today is what. Today's Thursday. So the game is about three four days away, and he's already saying that they gonna whoop on y'all, no matter what y'all got going on, no matter how many wins y'all una had these past couple of games, he don't care nothing about that. He don't care nothing about the momentum y'all got, or how good y'all playing as a team. He says, no matter what y'all do, come Sunday, y'all gonna take this l So if I'm running with fair,
that's what I'm preaching to these players. I'm saying, look, man, these cowboys, they say they running division. They've been winning games all season. Now you got the coach up there talking about they're gonna go up there and win the game. They here. If I'm wrong with the I'm like, man, look you were the five they had to win street going on, Like they didn't just lose two or five games or two out of well, they won two out of seven games. He's past couple, they ask a couple
of games. So if I'm wrong, I'm using it as billboard material. But if I'm a Cowboys player. I'm loving it. I just gotta know my coach, Hey, I gotta have you back because if you lose, it's gonna make us both look foolish. All right, So is this a situation in your mind where Mike McCarthy puts added pressure on the players and saying, hey, look, we're gonna win this game. I'm putting it on you to win this game. I
know we're gonna win this game. You're gonna have the game player to go out here, to execute, to go win in Washington. I think part of that's what Mike McCarthy is doing here, and I like that. Put it on these games, go win this game. I'm with you on that. I like it too. Like I said, if I was a Boys player, I like it. But there definitely is added pressure. There's definitely added pressure when you
go into a rival situation. You go to a divisional opponent, you know they know you like the back of their hands. They play you twice a year home and away, like just like you play them twice a year home and away. So they know all your tendencies, your strengths, your weaknesses. These are teams that know you better than any other team. In the National Football League. So to go up there Thursday afternoon and say we're gonna win come Sunday already.
I mean that puts a lot of pressure on that staff to make sure they got a game plan that they know they can go out there and succeed in. And then it puts a lot of pressure on your players going out there knowing they got to dominate this team.
They gotta go out there with their a game, knowing that their coach put that much faith in them they put he put it out there in the media already, So to me, you gotta come with it because if you don't, it could backfire immensely, And it's a lot of pressure on you to get this dub now that your coach opened his mouth and said what he had to say. But circle back to the beginning. If I'm a player, I love it because I know my coach has confidence in me and he's not shying away from anythings.
So I love it going up there. And I still got the Cowboys winning regardless, So I don't see it's a bad play by coach McCarthy at all. Let's really concentrate zero in on the next three football games for the Cowboys, because in a whole lot of ways, these next three games can you can pretty much wrap up
this division because they've got a two game lead. You're at Washington and then after that you come home to Jerry World to face the Giants, and then the day after Christmas on NBC it is it's Washington and Dallas at one more time. So you're gonna face him two out of the next three weeks. Man, you get you get game, you get this game, you get the Giants game. You're really give the driver's seat to go ahead and
wrap this thing up. So I like the fact that he put pressure on him to say, look, let's just go out of the gate and knock these dudes out of the box. Okay, let's just end this thing. Let's end this thing. Go ahead, let him know where the Kings of the East go. Handle your business up there. Vanda Scott up as a five point favorite. So I
like that part of it. And I'm gonna flip this other side of this, Barry, you and Danny have been talking about the run game and one Kelly Moore to Colemore runs there is an issue with the run game. Tony Pollard has he sprained his foot on that fifty eight yard touchdown against New Arden. So he's hoping to play on Sunday. I was working out with Brown a
little bit before practice. It was open to the media session, and then Zeke Elliott was on the bike and for a bit before he went over there, and Zeke says, he's going to play in the football game. But you have two running backs now who have injuries that they're dealing with a knee injury for Zeke, sprained foot issu for Tony poll thought that that that makes me nervous that I'm not gonna lie to you newly that that scares me just a little bit because we know Tony
Pollard as a back. He's a one cut, electric juice like he just brings that that speed, that that just violence to the game. Where he's taking off, he's either if he's not hitting the hole, he's bouncing outside and taking off. So I'm not quite sure how bad that foot is sprained, but it's got to be able to affect his game. It has to because he's a speedback.
He relies on his speed. It's not like he's you know, the bus or Zeke out here where it's just three yards in a cloud of dust and he's just grinding and grinding, and tell maybe he pops one. This is a guy who is a home run threat when he touches the ball at any given moment, and that's the strength of his game. That's what makes defensive coordinators worry about when he touches the ball. And if that's if that in any way is compromised by his foot injury, I think it slows him down and I think it
slows his effectiveness. Now to me, if Zeke was healthy at black I oh, well, you know all, you know, take the week off. You know, we get Clement to come in here and do a couple of third down package situations. But then Zeke is injured as well. And we all saw a last we get gets the Saints. How bad he looks. I mean, he looked like he was limping out there. He was dragging a go ahead, go ahead. No, it was, it was, it was, it was.
It was troubling to watch. Man. This is just not the player that you've come to expect when you're watching Cowboys football. Last ye Zekie, it just know what, it wasn't the twenty one we're used to. You're not It wasn't. It wasn't the twenty one you're used to it. He wasn't grinding people down. And for the first time, I think I mentioned this earlier the week, but it was the first time we saw him just run out of bounce.
There was no like, all right, gonna put my foot in the ground, I'm gonna put some punishment on these people before I go down. It was like, you know what, I'm out, I'm tapping out. I'm going straight out of bound. So and to me, you you know already how I
feel about this run game, you know. I feel like that's when we're at our best, when we're at our peak, when we got a balance attack, running pass, and if we're out there stagnant in the run game and we got to rely strictly on the pass, or we're one dimensional. I think that's why we've been struggling a little bit
offensively these past couple games. And I don't want Washington to go ahead and take advantage of it, because even though they don't have chase you, even though they don't have a sweat who's in the COVID protocol, this team can still get after the passer. I mean, they're loaded with first round draft picks on the defensive line, and if you're telling them that they are run game is compromised. We're not able to move the football running the ball.
Then they get depend their ears back and get after Dak Prescott. And we've seen this offensive line shows some chicks in its armor. So it makes me a little bit nervous. I still have the Cowboys getting this victory because they do have an awesome trio of receivers on the outside, but overall not having a great run game with two injured backs, that makes me a little bit nervous. So you're saying that the receivers need to run the round to be where they game the way to own. Yeah,
I'm with Jerry on that. Boy. They need to get their route run and get some separation and get that Prescott an opportunity to throw the ball in there. Child have been in the receiving room after that stuff came out later on that Like what you say, NEWI as a coach, Like if you're there the coach, I'm forget his name right now, but Adam Jones, Yeah, Adam Jones, and you're in the meeting room. You know these receivers
have heard this. You know, they've heard what's going on around the Metroplex Jerry Jones show, and he's talking about the receivers. What do you tell them? Like, what do you tell the receivers at that point? Um, how many of you all free agent? If you're a free agent, raise your hand, and there's a whole lot of room that a whole lot of hands going up that room. If you got No. One guarantees under contract, raise your hand and Martin Cooper hand go up here. So there's
some guys in that room. You may not have liked what the owner said, but he's writing the checks and he's gonna be turning the faith of some of these guys because number four is not going anywhere. Okay, we know. So when he spoke, it's it's truly one of those where you have to listen to what Jerry Jones says, and the fact that he doesn't say it very often I think means something. I literally would just be okay, Okay, he's saying something, and you have every opportunity now to
go out here and show what you can do. If you don't like it, you've got five football games to go out here and change the narrative and show Jerry do you think he's wrong. That's the beauty of this man. That is an absolute beauty of Sunday one pm in Landover Maryland at FedExField. These guys can change whatever narrative Jerry Jones has thought about them. I agree, And and Nui,
I'm I'm gonna ask you this question. Do you think it's it's I mean, I know it's not all on the receivers, but do you think the majority of it is on the receivers? I mean, we've seen cde Lamb out here. He's been playing fantastic Amari Cooper when he's healthy, he's been actually been able to be a little bit productive there. And then we saw Gallant come back from his injury and do a couple of things here and there.
Do you think it's the majority of the receivers or would you give it a fifty fifty balance with Dak right there? Man, I just think so many this these past few games. You know, you're talking about the loss to go back to Denver. Okay, those basically the losses
to these AFC West teams. You're starting looking at those, and there was a lot of perfect storm there of you know, Denver wanting it more, playing better, Kansas City understanding what to do, having the win to go their way, where Dad could hit gallop on that first on that first shot down the field, which you should have gone a long way. I mean this in the injuries and then the covids and coaches being missed, there's just a lot of stuff over these past four or five football
games and just look, man just wasn't good. So you can point to the receivers and say, Okay, you're a part of this issue. But you can point to the offensive line and say you're a part of this issue. You can point to Dak Prescott and say you're a part of this issue. Is all along the way during these these tough games, and even a win against New Orleans which wasn't one hundred percent Chris, you can look at guys and just say, I don't know about this.
I don't know about that. So I just think it's it's a bit much to just put it all on the receivers. But I go back into the question that was asked by Sean and RJ on one to fight through the fan too, Jerry, when they were asking if something's wrong with Dak because Dak Prescott's last three football Again, she said, since Dak's come back from the cap injury, he's not looked as good as he did before him.
That's a fact, and so and Jerry trying to answer the question, he basically put it on his receivers and didn't put it on the quarterback. And I don't know if that's necessarily one hundred percent fair because we all have eyes and we can all see Dak Prescott has not been the same quarterback since he came up the cap injury. And there's nothing wrong. There's you know, there's
nothing wrong with saying it. There's nothing wrong with saying, you know what man's on that left that he had repaired, and you know, we're still at times trying to figure out where where is he at now. Dak is gonna be like you and a lot of these other guys who've played for the Cowboys. You're not trying to tell everybody what's going on. You're gonna tell everybody you're all good, you're ready to go. But just because you tell it, I've learned in these presc cofference it's just because you
say it doesn't make it so. I agree with you on that one. I mean, he said he was fine. That that doesn't make it. So that's just what he said. And in the premise of well, you're trying to take guy sit that word. Uh, this is a gladiator sport. Gladiators don't come out here. And before I fight, let me listen down these ten injuries I got right here. Just let you know. Okay, so something happens, you can point to one of these ten things in the wrong with me, and I mean, that's just that's just not
what guys do. That's not what guys do. And unfortunately, many times fans believe exactly what they here. Oh Mary Cooper said he's fine, he's good to go. He's not really good to go. And you don't know that he's taking a shot over here and you don't know what the effects are from COVID and and guys aren't gonna come out. Actually, hey man, I've been weeezing and coughing all week long. Case smell whole much. I went out here, man,
three plays out with gas. You know you're just having to see that, yeah, or or you're not gonna see many guys do it. Luca dot admitted this week when he said, yeah, shit, you know you gotta be beat at oh Luca, that can of camp away over two sixties so and you can see it, so you can see it all in his face and neck. I'm like, looka, what are you doing baby? What you're doing? Right? But for him to even just come on out and just admit it, you know, like, okay, that's that's rare. That's right.
So James Harden didn't do it, No he did not, No, he didn't. Hey man, I'll try to get out of town. So I decided to go ahead, making a Chrispy Kreen type two weeks for itself. But that's what he did. That's what he Yeah, exactly what he did. So so you're not going to see Dan Prescott come out here and saying, hey man, you know what this has hurt me now, that is it's preventing me for that. You're just not gonna get that. For guys, they're gonna pretty
much tell you they're ready to go. But just because they said it doesn't make it so. And I can't stress this enough, and Bear you can tell people more about this. It's December. Nobody's who It's December. Your body's aching you know, good thing for the Cowboys, they play in the Dome and all that good stuff. But I mean December, that's when you start to get out of the bed and you're like, man, I gotta do this again. And it might not even be down hoard of a practice.
You might be just and helmets, but your body's just, especially when you get older and older in the league when December comes around. That's why they say, if you can get a win in December, it doesn't matter if it's good, ugly, bad, whatever the case may be. If you can get a win in December, it's always good because your body starts to ache, your body starts to fail you. And then the NFL decided to add another
game onto the regular season. So these guys are gonna be aching here for the next couple of weeks, especially when the playoff run comes around. And I just think it comes down to who's the healthiest team. And right now, the Cowboys they got some reinforcements coming along and hopefully this offense can shape back into gear these next five weeks before this run starts. All right, let's take a break. I want to get into Trayvon Digs versus Terry mcculon
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a Barrett Church, former Dallas Cowboys safety. This is the Player's Lodge by to By Hotels dot com. Day mccraig will join us tomorrow. All right, Cowboys, the first places got a two game league. Washington needs this football game. It is at home. This is your first meeting in the next three weeks against the Cowboys. So it's Washington in Dallas this week. Up there next week it is Giants Cowboys, followed by Washington coming to Jerry World December
twenty six for NBC's Sunday Night football. The Cowboys can basically go ahead right now, in my opinion, and put this thing to bed. If they can win against Washington football team this Sunday and then follow that up with a win over the Giants. This is the Cowboys opportunity to go ahead and makes him hey and in my opinion, knock him out the box. Now, if you're Washington, what you're gonna try and do obviously run the football, but when you throw it, you want to find number seventeen.
Terry McLaurin. Scary Terry's what they call him up there. Trayvon Digs right now, nine interceptions. He is on his way to a All Pro season. No camera chests said, when we're time all Pro season and Dan quit I'm imagine dan Quinnson says, okay, travel with them all day long, and Taylor Heidek wants to take a try test. Diggs, feel free to go ahead. I like this matchup for the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm with you on that too. Yeah,
I love this matchup for the Cowboys. I think Diggs has the advantage one because you know he has Heinekey back there throwing them the football. And what we know about Heineke is he he's a gun slinger, has that gun slayer mentality. He likes to take chances. So a lot of those balls we've seen McLaurin catch these past couple of weeks have been fifty fifty balls. Like Heineke's
literally running running around, running around od They're seventeen, They're scary. Terry, let me throw the ball up, and he's one of the majority of these fifty fifty balls. But when you're going against a guy like Traymon Diggs, who has some receiver background and has probably arguably the best hands for defensive back in the National Football League, those fifty fift people all start to become seventy twenty five balls in favor of Digs. So to me, I love this matchup.
I love the length that Diggs has against a fast guy like Terry mclurin. I feel like he's gonna be able to get up on a line of scrimmage, get his hands on him. He's gonna be able to throw that timing off. That chemistry between McClory, McLaurin, and Heineke out there. But overall, this is gonna be a good one. This is gonna be a good one for people to keep their eyes on because McLaurin is one of the
better round runners in the National Football League. He has that gold juice that gas where he can run by everybody on the field, and he has a quarterback there who's not afraid to throw the ball up to him. So this will be a good matchup. Mcclurin these past couple of years has become that not as quite as devastating as the Sean Jackson, but he's also had a couple of great games against these Cowboys, so he's creeping into that kind of cowboy killer realm right now. So
it should be a great matchup. But like I said, no, I'm favoring Thigs. I love the length, I love his hands and his ball skills up there, and I feel like it was fifty fifty balls will be his for the majority part of this game. I just don't want to see Anthony Brown on him. Not no disrespect Anthony Brown, Like he's had a great season so far this year except for two games. But I just feel like the matchup between McLaurin or yeah, McClaren and Diggs favors the
Cowboys rather than Anthony Brown. And McLaurin. I just feel like that'd be a matchup in favor of the Washington football team, So I'm in favor of it. That's how the Diggs travels with them and locks this guy down. All right, We've just had somebody comment right here on the feed. They said all pro question Mark, Yes, oh, tryon. He's got nine interceptions leading the league. I'm going there. I ain't going to say he get one more and have ten. There's no way in the world of guys
gonna have ten picks in the National Football League. He's pro. It's only one thing. I'm gonna say, there's only one thing, because they have Do they have like if the nickel back its own all pro position or they just go the top three corners? Good question. I'm not sure it's a good question because if they do, like a nickel was its own separate and they have just two spots for outside corners. I mean, yeah, he has nine picks. Are you gonna throw him over at Jalen Ramsey? Yes, Okay, okay,
what about a JC? I mean J. C. Jackson's right there and interceptions and he's also been map is giving up as many yards, so I can see the argument, but I'm with you. I mean, I think he definitely deserves to be an All Pro, first team All All Pro because he has nine interceptions with five games left, so he's probably gonna squeeze out maybe two or three more. So you're looking at a guy with eleven to twelve interceptions,
you gotta throw them on there. But I can see the argument of other guys saying, well, there's a Ramsey, there's a J. C. Jackson out there. But if you're going to just top three corners, there's no waiters that he's not in the top three. I mean, the guys had two special of the season. Yeah that you know, you've seen him the pick sixes, and he's once again he's gonna be in the spotlight down the stretch here. And I'm still believe in the Arizona and Dallas game
is going to get flexed. Chris Bean doesn't think so, but I think we're gonna see the Cowboys on the nbcing back to back weeks. I think we're gonna see him the day after Christmas and we'll see him against Kyler Marie in the Arizona Cardins. But I just I believe Diggy's gonna get another pick, and I just don't see any way Dallas Cowboy cornerback with ten picks is not going to be on the All Protein. He's had that kind of season. He really has. He's had that
kind of impactful season. And right now, when we look at the Cowboys, the defense is playing better than the offense. And if the defense carries his team down the stretch here, he's going to be the person who gets the most accolades for the performance of what's going on here. And Michael Parsons is planks'm outstanding football. But I don't know
if Michael Parsons will make the All Protein. But what Diggs is doing at a corner and the way you identify fight, the way they select him interceptions matter, He's going to be there. I just true. You know, oh, I completely agree with you. I think he'll be in there. And then another point on that Arizona game is hopefully we get this matchup because it'll further solidify, you know,
him being an All Pro. But if he's able to go out there and shadow DeAndre Hopkins, now I don't know if he'll be playing or not because they might have the number one seed sewn up by then, who knows. But if they have that matchup out there on prime time and they flex that game and he goes out there and locks him up or gets to pick or does something great against DeAndre Hopkins, I mean that right there, to me, he's going against the top three, maybe even
the top receiver international Football League. He's able to go out there and lock him down, and it's on prime time and it's against the two of the best teams in the national or in the NFC, I gotta say,
I mean that that solidifies it for me. If he's able to do that, Okay, and I'll say this, does he need to have that kind of performance against Hopkins considering what he did against Jefferson Edmond is soda thanks to Hilton two catches in that football game, I mean, you know, and that defense only allowed one touchdown and when Fland caught it. Um, I don't think that was
against him at all. But I look at the body of work of what he's done already and and it's it's when you talk about all pro quarner and what you want right now that that's he's it. He's done his part. And I know last year when we were talking about the Cowboys after the season and looking at the draft, and we said, this is a team devoid of blue chip players. And that was the fact at the time, there were no blue chip players on the football team. And you look at the Cowboys. Now they
have two blue chip players. Did a corner and then you got Michael Parsons over there at the linebacker spot. You know, those are two blue chip players that you have on your on your football team. So I expect him to get the accolaides. You know, we know Pro Bowl for sure. Okay, we already know that, but all pros. When you just say, hey, who are the best quarters in the whole league, you're gonna select two guys. Guy, um,
he's there. In my opinion, he is there. And now you got five you got five games to go with the ability to solidify it even more. But what we saw him do early on the season, and how where the Cowboys were playing, and look you look at the Saints game. Here that that pick he had. I mean the Saints were they were driving. I mean they were in the football game. Okay, the Cowboys won it, but the Saints were in that football game. And here he is making another key play. So the picks he's making,
these aren't those garbage picks. You know, this isn't hey man, the end of the half. You know, he's just having to know. This guy's making impact picks, changing the football game, running picks back. Um. Yes, he is an All Pro football player, and I'm telling you, man, he's on his way to a second contract. I do want to say this about Anthony Brown about let's say you wanted to put him on Tarim mclaur if you didn't give him
some help give him, that's it. We make it too to the double coverage on McLaurin, whether it's like you said, whether it's you know, even pressing and you gotta safety over the top, or he's playing off and you got a linebacker buzzing underneath them to take away those shorts
intermediate routes. If you do have him, if you don't want to, you know, because if you if you're traveling, if you're traveling with Diggs, and let's just say they put McLaurin in motion and all this other stuff, it's gonna it's gonna basically give your disguise if you're gonna know if they're in man, the man or if they're
in zone. So if let's just say Quinn wants to keep the integrity of his defense, he wants to keep that disguise alive, and they might end up having Brown on mcclorin at that time, you gotta have safety help over top. Maybe a couple of times here and there you let them go one on one. But for the most part, I'm not letting heinekee Key on Anthony Brown with him one on one with mclorin. I'm putting them safety help over the top where there's Kazy, whether it's
curse buzzing underneath or whoever the case may be. If you want to remain the integrity of your defense and keep that disguise alive, giving a man help over there just don't set them up for failure. So I agree with you on that point. But for the most part, if it's me, if I'm the DC, I'm putting them putting days on what I'm saying, Hey, man, go through what you gotta do, earn that second crime track. You're already on your way, go ahead and locked just got
down as well. How do you feel about Kazy right about now? Right now, I'm kind of disappointed and I say that because we know, like his past with Atlanta, when he's healthy, he's one of the most ball hawking safeties there was. I mean, he had ten picks one year and then I think he backdoord down and followed it up with another year was six interceptions. So I know he has that ability to be that whole safety, that deep part of it feels safety, that Earl Thomas
that can roll him back and forth. But when I watched the tape and I watched these games, I feel as though his angles to the football, whether it's breaking out of the deep middle or coming down and try to make a tackle, their angles just not have been there. I mean, we looked at that New England game. He was the last line of defense back there. If it was me, you should have went to the body of the receiver and knocked it up, but he ran right
past it. And I'm talking about when Kevin burn I think his name is caught the past for eighty five yards on a touchdown in that New England game. There's just multiple instances of that where he's at the middle of the field and his angles to the ball just aren't where they need to be, and he's given up a lot of big players. So right now, I say, I'm a little bit disappointed in Casey's game because I thought he would come in here and be one of that ball hockey safety that Earl tim in safety when
we're talking about dan Quinn's defense. But his angles just have been a little bit off this year. They look, the past four or five games have not been the best football of Demante Casey's career. So there's a lot of guys who need to really put together a good five games because they get ready to head into this offseason because they'll be free agents. Case He's signed to one year deal, So this is really it. This is
a big push for a whole lot of guys. I mean you start to think about this now, there's a lot of guys who were trying to solidify their position, be it with the Dallas Cowboys or somewhere else in the league next year. And consistently we see teams like to sign players off playoff teams. So if you want to make the playoffs and go further in the playoffs, because it just helps you, I mean, really, who wants
to go outside a bunch of losers? You know, teams won two games last year, you know, you know, but like you trying to sign a bunch of Jets acting season, you know, you trying to guys kind out here and played some winning football and bring them into your program. And so that that kind of one year you think about Keanu Yellow one year deal. League hookers on a
one year deal. Um, Michael Gallaph is up after the season, curses up after There's a lot of guys we're seeing here who who are looking for that next Lake Banderash contract. It's starting. It's starting to remind me of that twenty sixteen year, that rookie year with Dak and Zeke, and you know, we went on that run. We went to the playoffs and we had a really good team that year. And after that, after that season, I mean, teams came and picked it apart. I mean they basically blew up.
The secretary I went to Jacksonville. I think Claiborne went to the Jets. The car went to Baltimore. We had some other guys in the linebacker situation. I went other places. I mean, when you have a good team and you got so many people on their last year or one year deals, these teams around the league, there they're scouting, they're looking at you as well, like, man, I bet you that guy can do great for our organization, so they're gonna pick him part this team once the season's over.
And it's something these guys to either solidify your resume, to solidify your spot with the Cowboys, or at least put it out there to where another team will want to come up and grab you and give you a nice chuck of change. All right, we gotta take one
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about the last conversation. So you were there. You talked about how that you guys had that great year twenty sixteen, thirteen and three team teams good. Everybody comes for the free agent players. Got a bunch of Cowboy players who's neither contracts are coming up here or you know, they the Cowboys could exercise their ability to walk away from their contract team. When you're in that kind of situation, What is December like for you? To me? It was
the final push? Like I knew. I knew, I had just you know, filling in the back of my head that you know, I wasn't going to be back with the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, I think they had a lot of different places they had to put their money, didn't have a lot of cab whatever excuses they want to give, But I knew I wasn't going to be back here, so to me the final push, I had
to get good tape on there. I had to make sure that I wasn't giving up busted coverages or I wasn't getting beating man and man, I was doing all my jobs and all my responsibilities and helping this team win because I knew if I was able to do that, I don't care what team I went through. I was going to the highest bidder and I'll definitely I'll definitely tell you this. You know, the grass is not always
greener on the other side and these other organizations. I feel like the Dallas Cowboys, and not just because I played here, but they have a top notch organization. They treat the players right, and you're not gonna You're not gonna basically make as much as you do off the
field with the Cowboys with other teams. But if you're in a situation where this is your first time to really get the bag, to really get as much money as you can, then you gotta go for it, whether that's what the Cowboys or not, because you know what this league stands for, the NFL not for long. I mean, you got you gotta maximize on your opportunities to make as much money as you can and this short period
amount of time. And that was my thought process. I knew I wasn't going to come here to Dallas, so I gotta good put good tape on there, and hopefully some teams will come give me a nice chunk of change for my services. And that's what I was able to do. I went to Jacksonville, played there for the contract,
and then I retire. But for me, when you're thinking about free agency and you're thinking about what do I need to do, make sure you handle your business on the field first, you know, don't get too far ahead. Don't be thinking, Okay, well I got this, I did this, maybe this team will holler over or maybe I'll fit good with that team. Don't worry about none of that until the season is over. Make sure you keep your eyes focused on what you gotta do, and that's put
good tape on the field. When loser draw, make sure you're handling your responsibilities on the field. You're not giving up big busted coverages or plays like that, because that's the quickest way for you not to get paid in the offseason. So you gotta focus on what you gotta do and hopefully it comes out on top. But if you start thinking about, you know, maybe this team or maybe that situation, it will take away your focus on the field and you end up playing bad and then
you won't get paid at all. So to me, focus on the field first. Worry about the contract and all that other type of situations. Once the season's done. A lot of stuff to play for here in December. Just member football games are just different, folks. It's just different. And obviously livelihoods are at stake as well for players, but also on the coaching side. A lot of rumors
start getting that put out here around right now. George Edwards, Cowboys assistant defensive assistant who spends a lot of time with the linebackers. He is up for the head football coaching job at Duke. So he's a former former players so his name is there. Former Cowboy head coach Jason Garrett his name is up there at Jay and the defensive coordinator over at Texas A and M Mike Elko his name is up there as well. So right so, these are some of the guys that are they're there.
Tony Elliott is not going, and he was up for the Duke job, but he's gonna take the Virginia job here. So um, it looks like there may be hope for George Edwards to get the job here. But it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting. Um, it's it's gonna be tough,
especially with JAG's name in the hat. I mean, you're going to a score and it Duke may not be IVY level, but it's one of those you know, prestigious you know college universities where academics is definitely key when you're going into that school and you know JG he has that IVY league that fast. I mean, I'm just saying it's a matchmate in heaven. That's all I'm saying. Oh that's okay, Okay, So so let me just start ripping it off from the time. Number one, he's never
coached in college, Okay, never coaching college. And today so today's college football is a whole other beast. In fact, you got college coaches trying to run out of college because of this whole nil deal. There's a lot of the day. Man, I got to recruit him. Now I got to help him get paid too. And I step at the door and they want to know, Okay, what you got for me, because the last coaches came up here,
this is what they're gonna give me. I mean, so, so this whole NIL deal is a different beast, and if you haven't been in it, it is hard. And you talk about Jason Garrett coming in here to coach and learning rules. I remember when I worked over at US and I worked in LA and I covered USC. They brought Paul Hacking in from the NFL, and Paul had been to college coach. There are many things he
didn't know what to do. He didn't know. Okay, late late game situation, sc gets a first down, he calls the time out to stop, plot like what are you doing? Clock automatically stops in college football. So there were a lot of that he just didn't know. And along the way, the way he treated the players, I mean, it just
wasn't a good fit. It was a terrible fit. But when I look at Jason Garrett and I just say to myself, you're if you're Duke University, Mike Elco makes a lot of sense because he already coached at Wake Force and helped Wake Force build a program that they have today where they played for the ACC championship and hack of a good defensive coordinator. But Wake Force, when you talk about the academics and you talk about a
small football school, it's really the same. And to me, if I'm Duke University, I'm looking over Wake to the east of me, and I'm saying I mean to the west of me, and I'm saying, Okay, that's what I'm trying to build. I want that kind of program. Why not go get somebody truly has an understanding of how to go do that, who's been recruiting, who can Oh, by the way, in a place like Duke, you got to go try to really get across the nation to get some kids because you gotta have such a high
academic standard to recruit him. But Mike's already been down here in Texas. He knows where Texas talent is. And then plus he's already been in the ACC. So to me, if you're dude, you go there, not some guy from the NFL who's just legal job losing to the job where everybody said he was predictable calling plays. You don't think j G can go down there and get some of the top recruits. You don't think j G would
be one of them good recruiters down there. Getting everybody a come to this Duke University won't get you, right, I got the NFL experience, head coaching experience. You don't think he'd be a good fit down there. I mean, I know that this is predictable. They made that, but I don't know, man, I don't know. Maybe you get some players around them he can get from work out there. Okay, I'm just gonna give you the example. How's that working
out for her met with today? There's a state right now herf that's a guy though the whole beef as a guy. Man, How's how's it working out for that guy who went from New Whitland Bill Belichick staff over there to to Arizona. How's that working out there? There's a terrible ti here, Charlie Wis j G the hope they're not? JG? I'm telling you can turn that thing around. He could turn that organization at that university or around. And I'm too far far gone when they were in
the ACC championship. I think when Daniel Jones was there, they were up there, so they ain't too far gone. And I think JG can bring those those recruits in there as well. So I j G got my he got my support man, he got me college room. College recruiting is hard. I mean I was. I was over the TCU campus the other day and then was talking with the dean the School of Business and he's been working with the ad about just Nil and how they're trying to figure out, Hey, how do we work this thing?
This is a whole situation that people on these colleges are trying to figure out here. So you're gonna bring a guy who hasn't done any recruiting and now he said, hey, do you know nil is do you know? That's that? To me, that's a tough ask. And if and if I'm Duke University, I'm gonna hire somebody who's already in an understanding of what to do. And plus they can't emphasize this enough. Man, there's you can't recruit everybody there church because of the acause of the academic standards so
high out there. You're not gonna get you a five star, but he has a you know, two point three GBA high school. It's not it ain't gonna work out that way. This this is a tough deal. That's why I said that guy like Elko who's at Wake fourth, they already knew, Hey, there's only a certain kind of kids that we could
bring in. Yeah, Will McClay the Cowboys, Will went to He went to Rice University, and Will can tell you when when um my old buddy David Bayeff was coaching down that Rice, David Bayleff used to tell me said, Nwi, I lose more kids to the oil and gas industry than I do to the NFL director because they're smart and they go on these internships. And he says, we just recruit a different type of kids. They're just kids. We kid even we don't even bother to knock on
their door. So I just think that they'd be better off finding somebody who has a better understanding of what to do there. All right, very church, good stuff. Tomorrow, Dave mccraig, we'll join us feedback here and we will review with him, and that he could tell us all about Survivor. He can finally tell us the little ins and outs about Survivor and what he didn't like and how the how Jeff really is as a curse in
the host. I can't wait. I can't wait, man, It's gonna be a fun show, all right, Chris being We appreciate you looking us up people. We will do it tomorrow, right here, same time, twelve thirty pm on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
