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¶ Welcome Coco and Merch Launch
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everyone and welcome back to another episode of the player's box i'm desiree krafchick alongside jenny brady madison keys and jess pagula we have a very special episode today coco goth is joining us welcome coco hello How are you doing? How's the preseason going? Where are you coming from? It's going good. I am home right now. And then I'm going to Atlanta to go to some holiday parties before I had to lock back in. Love that.
¶ Hilarious Unforced Errors Shared
Well, we usually start with an unforced error of the week, or if you don't have an unforced error, a winner of the week. So do you have one this week of either? I have an unforced error.
turned 21 this year so you know i'm trying to you know learn my alcohol and things like that and so i hosted secret santa and i made like spike high chocolate and I saw like I followed a recipe on TikTok so I saw that she poured like half of Baileys in it and half of hot chocolate but I didn't realize she was using a shot glass so I poured like half of a mug of Baileys.
So you got everyone hammered. Or was that just for you? No, well, it was for all of us. Nobody finished their drink. I, like, started drinking, and I was, like, freaking out, like, halfway. And I was like, I don't think I poured the right amount. So I poured like half a mine away and just filled it up with hot chocolate. And everybody else, first they didn't feel it, but then you could tell like we started playing games.
Yeah, so I messed it up and then somebody, I didn't tell anyone about my mistake, but then they were like, what did you put in there? And I was like, I thought she was using a shot, I thought she was using a mug and it was a shot glass. So I poured the wrong amount. That's awesome. I think that's a winner. Yeah. Sounds like a winner. I mean, it was a delight, so yeah, it depends. Jess?
I have a good one from when I came back after playing my exhibition. So I played in New Jersey and I got back kind of late. We went to get sushi afterwards. I had like a little bit of sake. So like it was late. It was a long day. So I got back to my room, turned the shower on. I'm kind of one that turns the shower on and like lets it run for like five minutes before I get in.
So I laid down in bed and I fell asleep and I flooded my bathroom. The shower drain was not... draining and so I like got up like I don't know 20 minutes later and I was like oh my god the shower's on and I like run in there and it's literally like I get and it's like wet wet like stuff and I'm like oh my god oh my god and i run in and it like luckily there was like a little bit of a ledge but like when i stepped into the ledge of the bathroom like my foot was probably submerged in water
And I just look in the shower, like the entire bathroom was flooded in the, so I turned it off obviously. And it just, I let it sit for like 10 minutes and it was not draining. And I was like, Oh my God, the shower is just, it's not draining at all. It's just standing water.
and this is at like 12 15 a.m so i took all my stuff i had a 7 30 a.m flight the next morning out of like newark so i i only had like one bag in my tennis bag so i grabbed my stuff went downstairs i'm like um can i just get a new room like i flooded the bathroom Um, but the shower drain like wasn't, it's not draining. I was like, it's not draining. It's not totally my fault, but it's, it's like 50 50.
um so anyway she didn't really seem to care uh so i just moved rooms and that was that so rip to that bathroom nice it was a good one though it was a solid on first there jenny um I don't really have one. I mean, the other day when I was driving back to the hotel from practice, it was cold in the morning and I had my heat on in the car. and so i had the heat on like on my feet and my face and um i had taken my sweaty clothes and like put them on the ground on the passenger side like on the floor
And when I was driving back, like, I was just like, I was drinking a protein shake and I had the shaker bottle and every time I would take a sip, I was like, oof, wow, this, like, I really need to clean out this shaker bottle. Like, it smells so bad. And I didn't realize until I got back to the hotel that the heat was on and it was actually hot air blowing onto my sweaty clothes. And then like the sweat and that smell was like.
the smell that i was smelling was coming from my clothes so i think that was that's gross yeah Yeah. And then you were inhaling it as you were drinking. Yeah. Gross. Yeah, it was gross. And I thought it was like my shaker bottle. And I was like, this is really gross. I was going to toss it. But I was like, no, it wasn't the shaker bottle. So. we're good um well i have a winner of the week um a couple days ago i went uh to watch these annual fireworks that are in my city and the first firework
went off and we my friend and I would just see a dog just completely sprint by us and we were like oh no this dog is like lost scared of the fireworks and we were like there's no way like we're gonna help find this dog So we kind of like walked around after the fireworks and we see a family like frantically like looking for a dog. And we're like, oh my God, we saw the dog literally like 10 minutes ago. So we ended up exchanging numbers with them.
and trying to help them out find the dog there was like five of us kind of helping out and one of our friends was like wait let's check the ring app to see if we can in the neighborhood if anyone's like chatted or seen anything so this is like after like an hour that we looked around and saw anything someone had saw that there were bloody paw prints that they had seen like literally maybe like a 35 minute walk from the beaches when we first saw the dog
And we followed that ring camera like notification. And luckily, we ended up finding the dog that was like past my house, like 35 minute walk. um the family with like the two kids they were like oh my god like we found nala like it was like so sad but when we helped find the dog like i was like so like hysterical i was like so relieved because like there are two little kids and
they're searching out for their dog and then, but anyways, the dog was fine. So that was my winner of the week. I helped save a dog with a friend. So how did the paws get blood? Yeah. Wait, what? I think, I think because it was just sprinting from the beach. and like it was just hauling ass and like i think because it's paused but they had to cross like a a major street and luckily this dog did not get hit because that would have been devastating but
Yeah, that was my winner of the week. We helped save a dog. Well, great job, guys. Detective Coco. It started off bad. I was like, where is this dog going? Yeah. I was a little scared. At first I was like, I don't know if I would bring... i don't know if i was gonna bring a dog to fireworks i'm not sure that was a good idea but it slipped out of the harness and yeah but anyways found the dog he's great or she's great at home so nice um i
have decided to become a runner and I've had to do track workouts like once a week and I keep thinking every time we go because we start with 400s that It's like this will be the week that I like feel good about them. And as we finish the first turn every time in my head, I'm like, this is stupid. No one should run this far. Like 400 is not a sprint. It's long distance. I hate this.
And it happened again this week. So I would like to negotiate that I don't have to do any sprints anymore. I don't think I'll actually win that negotiation, but... I think my unforced error is that I just keep like assuming that I will wrap my brain around it every single week and I fail miserably. It's literally not even halfway. And I'm like, this is.
This is dumb. I hate this. I don't know why I'm here. And it's just like the internal monologue goes sideways. She's a runner. She's a track star. She's a track star. No, thanks. That's a good one for me, Dom. Who won Unforced Error? I think Coco. I think Coco because it was like four. Yeah, it was a winner and an Unforced Error. Yeah, you got both, Coco.
i feel like you got both so that kind of is a win yeah mine was pretty bad though i've had a lot that was hilarious luckily it wasn't your own house but um okay well coco congrats on your first unforced error of the week win yeah great job from coco
¶ Never Have I Ever: Mistaken Identity
Okay, so we are going to play a little game. We're going to play Never Have I Ever. Everyone starts with five fingers if you've done it. put one down. You have to tell your story and we will keep it going. So never have I ever been mistaken for another player in public. So all of us have. Okay, we'll just go around really quickly and say, who is the person you get confused for the most? Coco. Almost every, like, black player, so. Yeah, okay.
Oh, Serena, Venus, Sloan, Taylor, you name it. Perfect. Jess? Well, I get mistaken for you all the time. I get mistaken for Des. I don't know. i've gotten jenny but i get juju almost a lot um honestly like a lot of a lot of different people also depends on the hairstyle i'm wearing at the time jenny uh maria sakuri Yeah, Des? I definitely get Jess a lot. I get Jenny with my hairs in a bun. I definitely get Maria Zachary a lot of the time. Maddie?
I get Jess a lot to the point where it actually makes me really angry. And I've gotten in fights with people because they're like, no, you're Jessica. And I'm like, I'm not Jessica. And then I've gotten some off the wall. Like, someone was like, oh, my God, Sloane. And I was like, where? Me? No, I'm not Sloane. I definitely will sign. I definitely will sign for Jess if someone calls me Jess. I'm like, sure.
I got you. Go for it. Okay, next. Have you ever deleted a post because it didn't get enough likes? No. Oh, wow. Unless someone did, but they don't want to admit it. Okay. We're all confident. We like it. Okay. I mean, you can hide the likes now, so. Yeah, that's true. So it doesn't matter. DMed a celebrity. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everyone but me.
¶ Never Have I Ever: Celebrity DMs & Match Day
okay coco um it was more like a tick tocker influencer and it was like a trend this was like a long time ago i was like 16 and there was like i'm not gonna say his name but it was a tiktoker that everybody found attractive um and i didn't dm shooting my shot or anything i just sent like i don't know i was just bored i did the ball filter and i just pictured myself bald and tinted
and i knew he would never see it and i didn't really remember until like earlier this year because i was just going through his page got kind of just he came up on my for you page i don't have a crush on him anymore but and i went to like our messages and i was like oh my god i forgot i sent this so i unsent it did he read it i mean i don't know because like obviously you can open it and it doesn't but i don't think he ever saw it at least i hope not okay okay jess
I just DMed Kevin Jonas from the Jonas Brothers because we went to go see them and he follows me and I met him at the US Open. So it was just like a... hey, like, we're going to come see you in sunrise, blah, blah, blah. He's so super nice and responded and everything. So, yeah. Kay does. Oh, sorry. I've definitely messaged like Lindsay Vaughn or like responded. And like when she responds back, I'm like, oh my God, I get so excited. Or Broma Bakery. She definitely responds to me. She's my celeb.
she's my celeb jenny um josh allen yeah obviously no response literally no response never will respond and literally it's only going downhill now like once a week Great game, Joshie. Yeah. Well, he played so good this week. Have a baby on the way. Keep your head up, Joshie. I like Kayleigh Stein too. Yeah, she's cool. Yeah, she's all right. Maddie? Oh, you have it.
I have it. No, I don't. Yeah, I have it. Guys, I'm not going to lie. My hand is like gripping. You can put it down. You can put it down. Just tell me if you've done it. Okay. Forgotten a credential. Oh, yeah. I think everybody's done it.
i don't think i've ever forgotten oh my gosh maddie's just perfect i'm definitely not perfect like i've forgotten shoes but i haven't forgotten my credential yeah i forget it i mean i don't have a story for mine it just happens all the time it happens okay um has has anyone ever forgotten their rackets before a match oh
That might have been a setup. That was a setup. I felt targeted. Okay, look, it wasn't my fault entirely. My coach usually puts my rackets in right before I go in court, and... i don't know it was the first round i was so nervous um and i go to the bathroom and they're rushing me they're like you need to come out so i just pick up my bag and my because french open has a reasonable bottle so my other bag was just so heavy because all the bottles i didn't even notice the weight of my tennis bag
So I know I go in court with six rackets. I open one and I'm like, that's weird, no rackets. And I open the other one and there's no rackets. And I look at my box, there's nobody there. So now I try to go on my phone to call my coach. And then the ref was like, you can't do that. And I was like, bro, I have no rackets. He's going to tell me coaching or something right now before the match even started.
and so then eventually my new balance rep was in the box and i just like opened my bag up and show him i have no rackets and he goes sprints and then jc gets the rackets i was so mad but it like got the the nervousness out and at this point I was like okay I'm gonna win I love that okay has anyone ever slept through an alarm on match day no
No. I want to say I have. Oh. Too much sake? I tend to sleep through alarms. I'm such a heavy sleeper. I think I have. I think I did one year French Open Qualies. I don't really remember. It was fine. It wasn't to the point of like a detrimental, like I missed the match, but I definitely, I think I had to like bump my warmup back. I definitely have slept through an alarm, but it's not.
it's because the match before me either there was someone that retirement or like a default and then like i'm still napping like thinking i have time and then they're like hey you got 15 20 minutes before you go on court and i'm like oh okay okay um
¶ Never Have I Ever: Prize Money & PR Cringes
thought about what you were going to buy with your prize money after winning a big match or a tournament i've definitely done that i've done that i have no more fingers left Yeah. Can you use the other hand? Yeah, I've just thought about like what I'm gonna eat. Yeah, same. Honestly, I think about what I'm gonna eat, so. Yeah. I just want a little burger, fries, and bad coke.
I definitely thought about a bag or something. Oh, yeah. I, when I was playing, I was playing in a tournament at the end of the year. Wow. Whoa, Des. You're typing so loud. That was crazy loud. That was insane. Sorry. I barely even touched it. Okay. Des.
There's no way you barely touched it That was the same level So I I was playing tournament at the end of the year and I was moving into an apartment and I had no stuff it was my first apartment and I was a little bit toasty so the motivation was maybe not like totally there um to like do super well that week I was like oh no if I lose I go home and the year's over so I made a deal with myself that however far I got I got to use that money to like furnish my
apartment so I literally was like every single round like okay yes I can afford the couch now and so I like had to basically like bribe myself but that works it's a good way to do it Yeah. Has anyone watched a full season of TV in one day? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think like every show. Yeah. There's been several. Everyone. Agreed. I'm trying to think. Coco's like, I have no more fingers left. I'm on my other hand. Have you ever cringed at your own post-match interview? Yes.
Almost every time I talk. I feel like I've stopped watching or listening to anything that I say so that I don't have to be like, oh God, why did I say that? Yeah, same. I just don't watch. i hate hearing your voice um i don't think i've ever sat and watched a full interview of mine yeah yeah agreed um have you post-match interviews so yeah Not till we get to the finals. Like semis. Okay, last one. Have you ever been nervous about drinking after a big win? Drinking like alcohol? Like alcohol?
drinking champagne after a big win like nervous about it not nervous but or like oh have you ever been nervous about popping the champagne on court post-match oh yeah i can't do that i don't know how to do that very well The first time I popped champagne was this year United Cup and Taylor Fritz had to show me how to do it. I remember that. Des was there. And I was so scared. Did you do it? Did you manage it?
I mean, I feel like multiple people had to help me, but it got there. Would you feel confident? I was worried about breaking my nail, not necessarily like it popping. Would you feel confident doing it again? I mean, I've done it. before i did at french open but i don't feel comfortable doing it on court in front of people no yeah i feel like it would take me too long and then you just turn into a whole meme yeah i don't yeah I don't think, don't ask me to do that. He might now. Yeah. No.
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¶ United Cup Memories & Team Bonding
Rules and restrictions apply. Okay, speaking of United Cup, Coco, do you have any good memories from United Cup? I know you guys have all played together. We've all played, yeah. So fun. I mean, just Mama Dez being there cheering. Mama Dez? Yeah, she's my second mom. no just the escape rooms like taylor's so superstitious so like doing the escape rooms like every day was it was fun but it was just like he always wanted to be the guy to finish the room but like yeah you call him out
Yeah, which, I mean, I guess I'll see him soon, but he was only the guy in like one of them that I can remember. I don't know, Des was there. Do you recall him being the guy?
yeah I mean he definitely was like no like I mean Jess and Maddie we've done we've all experienced Taylor wanting to be the guy it's like no like this is it like no it's I promise you it's this yeah who's who's the worst at escape rooms out of everyone i haven't done one with everybody oh out of everybody united no we did one we did one though out of everyone we do it in rome
Remember that? Oh yeah, we did one in Rome. We did do one in Rome. That was a fun one. That was in Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, I remember. That was like a sick room. oh you guys sent me and Chris and I feel like we were the worst people to be the two to go away in the separate yeah we sent them into the room yeah I think we were the worst two but I mean we got out of that zombie one too
Oh, yes. We didn't get out of that one. Uh-uh. That was scary. No, that one was scary. Yeah. I did not help in that one. I don't know if I was there. Was I there? Was I in Rome? No, you were there. Yeah. Yeah, I was in Rome. I don't remember that one. I just remember the cool Alice in Wonderland room. Yeah, that one was cool.
We always tease Des because we call her bluff because she runs around the room and she points stuff out and she's like, this is it. And we're like, that's the light switch. It's fine. And then all of a sudden, last minute. Daz is like, do we think this is important? And we're like, that's the key. I'm like, are you looking for this? Yes. And then it's like, yes, that's what we need. And she's like, okay. And then we win. And we're like, there's bluff.
Yeah. Dennis Kudla came up with that nickname in the United Cup. He also came up with it because were we in like separate groups? And they, like, assumed you were, like, really good at escape room. Not that you're bad at escape rooms. But then, I don't know, at some point, he just looks at me and he's like, does this such a bluff? She doesn't know anything.
it was just like him and another guy just following like whatever you did and then like yeah halfway through he just realized you were a total flop but united cup is always fun i think coco that was your first year doing it i mean we won it's a good first thing first time but yeah it was fun we didn't i don't even yeah we did a lot of things Yeah, I think it'll be really cool. Escape room. Yeah. It always is fun. Coco, what was your favorite part of the 2025 season?
¶ Coco's 2025 Season Triumphs
I mean, winning a slam, I feel like it's hard to not choose that. Other than that, honestly, United Cup, I had so much fun. That was a great start to the year. Yeah. You're playing again next year, right? Yeah, but Mama Tez won't be there, so I'm so sad. I'm sorry. I was trying to get my ranking up. You have to tell us how you and Taylor... Just hold down the fort. Yeah. Yeah, I know the veterans. I know. I don't know. I feel like this is giving us direction. I feel like...
I was at one point. You were the team blonder because I didn't know Taylor that well or the others. Yeah, Dez is really good. She's really good at immersing. Obviously, Danielle, I knew she was fun. Oh, she was a little instigator, too. That was great. When we had her on the bench, it was perfect. Oh, my God. I remember that. It was so fun. Oh, my God. It was great. Let's go, go, go. Just so pumped and amped. Yeah. It was a time. Yeah, it was a time. I felt bad for the other teams.
¶ Behind the Scenes: Tennis Kit Design
I feel like every year it's been great. Like we've had a good camaraderie. Like everyone gets along. There's always good vibes. Yeah. Have you done anything fun with your off season? I mean, I went to a music festival. I went to Camp Lognor, which is like a festival that Tyler the Creator puts on. So I went to that in...
But the first week it got rained out. So I flew all the way to L.A. And then like an hour after I landed, they canceled it and postponed to next week. So I went back home and flew back. Yeah, I was committed to going to that festival. Oh my God. Which is only two weeks. That was 50% of it. Yeah. That's crazy. Okay. Do you have.
a favorite kit that you've ever worn or a favorite kit that you wore from this year oh my goodness i've been meaning to do like a ranking because i saw people were ranking my outfits on tiktok so i've been meaning to do one for myself My favorite, I mean, I feel like the Wimbledon one, it was like a corset, like lace bridal type situation. So, but I lost first round in it, so it didn't really get seen.
I feel like everybody who had like a special outfit lost first round for that tournament. Jess. It went down in a blaze of glory. Yeah. Like me, Jess, Mazzetti, like everybody who did anything creative, like. Yeah. I mean, you know, when like the commenters are like stick to tennis, I mean, they were like kind of right about anything crazy. I don't just never does anything. I felt so bad.
screw it i'm gonna walk out like so freaking cool it looks so good too it looks sick and then everyone's like haha you suck in your ass and i'm like shut up leave me alone i was trying to be cool for once god Wasn't there a tournament where you had a different outfit for each match? Am I right? No. Oh, I thought you had one. No, the budget's not that high.
well i didn't know if you had like um no no i did a different outfit for each tournament tournament okay yeah i really liked your australian open outfit with the cutouts oh yeah i forgot about that thank you
I want to hear everybody's favorites. Of yours? I liked your French open outfit. The leather jacket was sick. You always wear crocs. And I actually really like... that it wasn't cropped because I never see you in it and I was like oh wait I like my belly out I know you like your belly out I'm like hide my belly no the french wasn't it was no it was
it was like a lighter blue dark it was light blue the other one was a dark blue which one was the leather jacket made it yeah that was really cute oh thank you which one was the one where you had the open back
Was that Australia? I think that was Australia. Yeah, I really liked that one. That one was cool. How do you do your kits? Like, how much... control do you have with like designing them colors obviously you probably do it like a year in advance right yeah it's like a year sometimes two years in advance
and like the mainly the grand slams are the ones i'm like involved in um everything else is kind of what their color scheme is for like the whole new balance family um and we kind of just like literally it's like i don't know like you like we take a bunch of magazines pinterest and stuff and we just
they put it all in front of me and then i just like staple onto the wall like what i like and what i want what vibe i want for each slam then i kind of tell them what i like and what i want and then they kind of like make a vision and then we just keep refining it and then i have to like make sure that it's played
because some of the stuff can, like with the cutouts, for example, AO, I had to like try that on a few times to make sure nothing slipped out or anything. Wait, so was it going back to Wimbledon? Did you?
Was there like something going on with your top? I feel like I was watching you. Oh, like the little flowers, was it? The lace one. The lace? Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, nothing was going on. It was just 3D, so I... usually when i'm nervous i'm either like touching something on my outfit and that just happens to be like there are like 3d flowers that you or no butterflies that you could like fold up or close push down if you wanted it flat
That's cool. I was going to say, it's kind of like... what's it like the fidget spinners like when you're nervous yeah that would be kind of nice to like build into your clothes i mean something to like do yeah yeah yeah but usually i'm like you're adjusting my shirt or something are you nervous right now because you're really playing with that drawstring on your... No, I was doing... No, I'm not doing this. Nothing to be nervous about. We're all in here. Yeah.
that's so funny have you ever refused like well it seems like you have a lot of direction with what you're wearing but have you ever like refused to wear something or you just maybe it's on like your mood board and you're like i'm not ever going to be seen in that yeah no yeah they had sent something to australian open like maybe like three years ago and it was like
It looked cool on the mock-up, but then when I put it on in person, it just didn't look good. So I just didn't wear it. It was supposed to be like a basketball-inspired outfit, and it was like basketball shorts, but not like quite... like as long but i just didn't like the way it looked it looked cool like on on the person but on me it just didn't look good so i just put a skirt over it so you just they just like are like okay well i guess she's not wearing this what a waste but
um no they're really they're really they're really nice so i they don't i mean they don't really care i'm sure they want you to be comfortable so yeah yeah they're they're really nice it's not like i never felt like bad and i'll be like at this point you built a relationship like it could be like that's ugly and they don't take it yeah like when when just tried that yeah when just tried that dress on
you were like not that like no no no wait let me see no because the dress doesn't fit her and then the the ruffles but jess knows me it's fine like i wouldn't do this with another girl What did you say? That was a funny story. Yeah, no, that was my mom that said frumpy. Oh, Tammy said frumpy. so you guys can see who i get it from no that's good we like the honesty we know but the other one was so much better it looks so good so much better no i totally approved by coco
It was just hilarious when I just walked out and I was kind of already like, I don't really know. She didn't even look confident in it. No, I look very not confident. And then Coco just sees me. She's like, no.
¶ American Men's Tennis: Player Stress
just just take it off it was pretty funny we love the honesty though um so since we're you know all american players here we have all these top americans you know me you coco maddie amanda all these top girls um for the top five we have taylor fritz ben shelton tommy paul learner tn and i guess francis um so who do you think of those five of the guys looks the most stressed during warm-up warm-up or like pre-match we can rule out i've never seen francis really look that nervous before
he's usually like talking to me like before like right before he gets on court and i kind of feel bad for his team because i'm like shouldn't you be focused right now he's doing the handshake I've never really been around Lerner enough to like know how he is so who are Tommy's chill so I guess I would have to give it to Taylor just not because he looks stressed but he just is like the most serious I think yeah
yeah i feel like though foe maybe talks a lot because he's stressed yeah that could be it maybe but that's he is kind of always like that though always stressed
¶ American Men's Tennis: Public Personalities
Um, who do you, well, this is, this is a easy one. I think, who do you think secretly enjoys the attention of a packed stadium the most? oh my god francis francis or ben i would say ben i would say i feel like you can take secretly out of that question i think yeah yeah knows every celebrity like on the face of the planet and somehow is like their brother and i know he loves it and he knows where they're sitting yes and he knows where they're sitting he knows where to run
He knows where to run for the high five after every point. Yeah. Dap me up, bro. Literally. Okay, what about best dress? I also love the crowd, yeah. Best dress. Best dress. Frances? um yeah for i like for instance lulu stuff yeah yeah he's had some good fits the past year yeah and they're like blue one at french open yeah
Yeah, that was good. Oh, that was really nice. I thought the blue one was so nice. I liked the all red, too. That was nice. The blue one, all I could think of was The Incredibles. Smurf? Oh. I love that movie. Who do you think is the most competitive in a random game? Taylor. Taylor, for sure. 100%. Taylor, bro. Every time. Taylor will make anything a competition. Literally. Yeah.
um most likely to yell at their box i mean i i don't think either none of them yell but i can see maybe taylor complaining a little bit he always yaps yeah like talking but he's not like being like rude or anything he's just yeah no one's he's usually like talking out loud i feel like all of them kind of do that i don't think any yeah yeah to be honest
¶ American Men's Tennis: Digital & Coaching
yeah um most likely to forget their credential francis yeah he also forgot his rackets this year right oh yeah he did oh my gosh didn't you roast him hard too yeah i did um who do you think would absolutely not survive tiktok comments
Ben? I feel like I could... I don't know. Sometimes Ben takes things... He's like that... that meme like and i saw personally yeah that's ben like the guy like look at him and he's like what like he's like starting fight oh yeah when yeah when he was playing the italian guy yeah Who was he playing? Oh. Kaboli. Kaboli. Yeah. Oh, sorry. So much aura. So Ben? Yeah. Are you asking me? I don't know. All of the collective group.
I guess. I guess. I can't see anyone else, really. I plead to fifth. I guess. What? Oh, man. We still love Ben. But he definitely would get salty in the comments.
um who gives chronically online energy and who gives i do not have the app energy uh tommy gives i do not have the app yeah chronically online taylor either taylor honestly could be it could be taylor foe or ben to be honest yeah i just thought i think taylor tweeting i was i was gonna go foe i love a wait you're forgetting learner a part of all of these
we don't really but i don't really know i don't really know yeah but he does not give me any of no he doesn't give me online though but he's my age like so he's very quiet like francis always has like the post tournament like paragraph oh yeah like yeah like it's a whole thing i always try to guess at the beginning of the week of like what it's gonna say
That's so true. At least you know he's writing it. You know for sure he's writing his own caption. You can tell when captions have to be approved by brands and stuff when Francis posts stuff and then when it's just fully off the cuff. Just him. if you had to coach one of them for a day who would you choose and why I feel like since we haven't answered Lerner I want to go with him so he'll be a good learner and oh wow and i can know sorry i took i took the dad joke but um
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¶ Coco or No-Go: Social Media Etiquette
We need you to keep us young and cool, you know, so we're going to need your opinion here because you're the youngest of the group. Okay. Okay. So Coco or Nogo? Here we go. Posting Instagram stories with no caption. Coco. That's fine. that's fine okay yeah okay photo dumps on tiktok example jess so mine went viral okay well because they thought it was spam When I've done it, I definitely was trying to give Facebook mom something. I do that. So you did it as a joke to be like, haha, these old.
thanks no not old but you know i did it like not as for real but justice went viral so maybe she's on to something yeah okay now okay i'm just gonna say i said like no contacts and now all i do is see no context post so i felt like i was just slightly ahead of the trend trendsetter yeah you were because i was a little ahead of it yeah i just didn't quite okay now people are doing dumps so yeah post to get ready with me um i mean coco i did them a few times but
I hate the ones though where people are acting like they're running late and it's like, you're not late. It's just for content. Whenever you're late, my first thought was going to pull out a video and be like, I'm running late. Have 10 minutes to get ready. And they do like a whole beat and like hair and everything.
Wait, remember that TikTok you made us do when we were getting ready? Was that like a get ready with me or that was just like, no, no, no, no. That was just a lip sync thing. Yeah. Oh, okay. Um, okay. Voice notes.
¶ Coco or No-Go: Online Interactions & Relationships
uh i used to be no go but now they're actually good because like you can't text and drive and yeah okay it's a coco got it reading comments after a tough loss um i mean you it should be no go but i do it because i just think it's very creative what people come up with and i like I like to reply back to them and then I don't press the post button.
oh you just get it you just get it out of your system yeah okay that's a good therapeutic way to do it and like waited 30 minutes to delete it so i think it's enough time for the person to see it but not enough for like some article to screenshot and be like Coco fires back at haters. Okay, so in the future, if you want, you can actually go onto their profile and see if they've tagged like their business that they work on or anything. Oh, I've done that. I've been with a few girlfriends.
And I've gotten a couple of people to apologize for me. A hundred percent. Or you can like go into their business and like, you can write reviews and stuff and get your friends to write reviews. Ooh. Yeah. You can, you can look them up on LinkedIn sometimes and then you can cross reference. Maddie said I'm not new to this. I'm true to this. I think Maddie's done this quite a few times. Maybe. If you need Maddie to basically call Maddie. Yeah, if you want to send them to me, and then I'll do it.
Okay, got it. I love that. Turning red receipts on. i've only done that once and that was when me and my boyfriend like in a petty argument and i just wanted him to know i read his message love that that's awesome love that power it's a power move i like that uh double texting uh i do it i don't care coco like you're gonna listen to me
okay hard launches versus soft launches launches i prefer a soft launch uh because also i feel like you hard launch i don't know it depends how long you've been dating but i think soft launch is like the more demure way to get it out there demure is a soft launch if you like put it in like a 10 post dump like is that a soft launch is that considered a hard launch i feel like if you like have it on your first post right
Well, I don't know. My soft live version is, you know, you post a little hand or you post like, you know, two things. That's how I did it. And then I put part launches whenever you post a person's face, regardless of where it is in the dump. Okay. Good to know. Okay. Saying LOL out loud. Like actually saying it? LOL. That's a no-go. That's only for text. It has to be lowercase.
¶ Coco or No-Go: Trendy Slang & Fashion
Okay, using the term... Unc. Unc. Unc? Unc. University of North Carolina? Doesn't show in her age. i think onk is funny because like for me i feel like explain what that is please it's like somebody who just tries who's just like old but like tries to be hip like for me sometimes I can view Frances as like an onk sometimes. She just called Frances old.
no but like no but like a try hard old yeah try hard like you gotta be too young it's always like your uncle in the family that tries to fit in with the like kids and it's like bro your uncle That's so funny. Okay. That's my dad as an aunt. Like, he tries to be hip. He is hip. Yeah, he is. Okay, Jenny using the term gyat. Oh, yeah. Gyat.
that's a no-go yeah be honest we thought we were being cool what nobody says yeah like a bad example no it's like fingers that do it when they're like i mean in a No. Like Pho? Pho's got Biat. Oh my god. Oh my god. I mean, that's funny. So I can say for that context, yes. Maybe Jenny just saying it. Okay.
discovering music from tiktok um i think that's okay as long as you actually listen to the song i hate when people only know like the 10 second clip and then they say they like the song it's like no you just like the clip The content, okay. Wearing tennis clothes off the court. No, I hate that. She feels strong about that one. Jenny? Unless you're going to work out or something.
Oh, but Jenny does it a lot. I love the evolution of that whole thing. No, only if you wear that. No, Jenny doesn't. Jenny just wears her sweatsuit. Yeah.
um wearing wearing sunglasses indoors oh um i don't really like that because like you're trying to be cool but it's like you can't even see but i guess if you're trying not to be like recognized somewhere maybe but i've never like whenever i've put on shades and i don't want to be recognized i still take them off like in the store because i look stupid yeah
Or like those, like, what are those yellow ones that everyone wears on tour? Like the blue light glass things? Oh, the blue light glasses. I don't know if that's considered sunglasses, but. Yeah. Those are like glasses. Yeah. Okay. Matching sets. Oh, those are cute. Yeah. Easy. It's a cocoa. Okay. Wearing makeup to a match.
i mean i know there's some players that do it so if that is what makes you feel good that's fine but for me it's a no because i just sweat too much and it's like i couldn't imagine like doing that before a match like i just like no okay Filming TikToks in public. Last one. I hate doing that. I used to do them when I was like younger because I felt confident, but now I just kind of cringe. What? You're not confident? What are you talking about?
I just hate the idea of somebody watching me film a TikTok. If I'm doing it with other people and it's a trend, I guess, but like... i don't know if you guys seen that addison ray was like the paparazzi was trying to ask her a question and she's like wait one second i have to film a tiktok real quick and she films it and then proceeds to have the person ask her a question was that planned
no no it was just that's crazy yeah i will say like watching girls i was at chipotle the other day and there's these two like tea boppers doing a tick tock and i was just like oh my god like
that would be me because, you know, I'm old, right? I'm an uncle. No, you're not uncle. You guys are not uncle. You guys are not uncle. Okay, thanks for clarifying that. Okay. Got some good answers there. Yeah, and then she... threw me under the bus no i didn't it's fine it's fine it's fine yeah you have to troll jenny at some point yeah you have to she trolls us sometimes you know
¶ Who Am I Game: New Clues Revealed
Yeah, like if you don't troll me, like, it's not fun. Okay, next we're going to go do Who Am I? So just a little refresher. uh of my clues from last week so they were reach number one in the world two siblings at the top of the game but only one lifted major trophies and then 2008 uh olympic silver medalist and the person uh jess never messaged me um if she got it but uh whoops um
The person that I chose was Dinara Safina. So for everyone that got it right. I think people in the comments were like, it has to be her because Jenny's obsessed with Marat Safina. yeah so i sent like about eight answers but ended with the final answer oh my god des's answers were honestly i should pull it up and just read des's answers i got it like
Immediately. And I almost started laughing because I was like, Des is going to be so confused because she's immediately going to think Murat. And then that's not going to make sense. I was. And then she's going to spiral. I did. I spiraled. she literally goes is it miraz safin i said nope hamster spinning andy murray wait it's female i'm an idiot the better carolina and then she didn't answer and then she goes tracy austin
Oh, and then she phoned a friend. She phoned a friend. I told you no phoning friend. Yep. You called Danny. Not for the answer. Okay, sure. I called Danny just to chat. All right. As a friend. Before me and Des really get into it. Do you have your three clues? All right, let's hear them. I do. Okay, the first one is you can find me at the zoo, the tallest of the pack. And then the second one is, well, I'm going to say I, but the person got aced by one of the slowest serves ever.
and then the third one danny gave me but like i feel like it's too obvious so um this might not you guys might not get this because You don't probably know who this person is, but the person is from the same city as the rappers Lotto and Young Thug. I think he's from... I think I know who it is. I don't know who those rappers are, so I'm going to have to do some research. Wait, hang on. Jenny says you can't research. It's cheating. Yeah, I think I know.
okay who is it oh we gotta let our we gotta let our listeners oh you don't have to say oh they have to guess wait can oh okay des text me she got it yeah wait i'll text you Okay, do you guys know who Mariah the Scientist is? She's also from that city. No more hints. Okay, that's three people that I don't think they would know. Oh, Jess just got it too. Wait. So listeners, take your...
Guess. Guesses in the comments. And let us know who you think it is. Jenny, you did not get it. Wait, I'm gonna guess. Wait. Wait, I can't wait. Can you text me what you got, Jenny? Maddie got it. Everybody got it except Jenny. What the heck? I'm just thinking of... Okay, I guess Fritz. Okay, I guess Fritz because didn't he get aced by Irani? No, he was missing our serve. I was going to say savage to say ace by the slowest serve. I love it though. Damn, love it. That's funny. Whatever.
¶ Fan Questions: Sponsors and Movies
I'm over it. Okay, we're moving on to fan questions. Yeah. Okay, from Kevry88. I have a very important question for Coco. I know she's had... I'm going to butcher the pronunciation. Barilla. Barilla as a sponsor. What is going on? Desiree. Des. It's so loud. Mute. Mute yourself when you type. I have to start over. Okay. Coco couldn't take that one. Yikes, that's so loud. That was crazy. Apologies for the timing. Okay, Jennifer, continue.
Well, why did you mute yourself? She's typing. Okay. Okay. Fan questions. First question from Kevry88. I have a very important question for Coco. I know she's had Barilla as a sponsor forever, but like how much pasta are we talking here? Does she get like full pallet shipments as part of her contract renewal? Well, I'm no longer with Barilla. Surprise. I was like, I don't think I've seen the Barilla patch. I literally thought the same thing. But when I was with Barilla.
um we told them not to send us pasta because we were already buying it and like sometimes the brands can like overdo it when they send stuff uh so we're just like we'll just buy it ourselves and every now and then they'll send like some so um yeah
But I did have pasta last night and I still buy Barilla, so that's how you know it's real. Great. Love it. Okay, from Ana Lopez Felix. Is Jess finally taking her to the movies? No. Jess is like... this is on my like hit list um she still has yet to take me to movies and then i think you asked me about seeing something else and never followed up on it i think it was like the thunderbolts or something i think it was thunderbolts
but i don't i somewhere at the french i think i followed up but then like you won the tournament and i was gone no no there was something that i think you saw or you wanted to see but like you i saw it already yeah i remember seeing a movie when it first came out oh it was fantastic four i think oh and i remember i wanted to see it when it first came out someone just asked me i could say that i saw it because she ditched me for the first one
okay what about if we see the new because you're a big marvel we're always talking about marvel movies so um the new doom dr doom yeah we can see it just don't like set up a date and then like not respond okay but you promise you promise that you let it go in 2026 yeah it's and we're not there yet yeah i know let her be petty for the remainder of the year it is her right yes
That's allowed. When this airs, it will be 2026. So yeah, I guess if this is in the future, I will have letting it go by time people see this. For now, I'm still holding on to it. Perfect. Okay, next question from Kokojoao Giordoso.
¶ Fan Questions: Doubles Strategy & Drills
What would be Coco's strategy playing doubles with every member of the pod? Oh my goodness. I like that question. playing with every member well i'll start with jess as we played i don't really think we had a strategy it was just like if we returned well we usually won and if we didn't we usually lost um
I play with two lefties and both of them have hit me before. The first thing I'd be like, please don't hit me. And I know Des loves her backhand. So I was just trying to like set her up to be in that.
and then um she could also lob really good so i feel like if she would lob the person and then they would lob back i could take the overhead because i like my overhead um maddie i mean maddie just serves so well and hits her forehand so big so i feel like she could just do that and i could just be at the net and just try to clean up whatever comes back and then jenny oh i feel like we could do like we could do like a lot of variety like she volleys really well
um so i feel like we can throw in some serve and volleys you have a great kick so i feel like you can throw in the kick you can serve and volley you can come in together and also your forends i feel like that would just throw people off because it's so heavy honestly guys And whenever I play doubles, there's no strategy. So this is not a good question. That was really good. Thanks. Yeah. So like, when are we playing? Last question from Matt Voss, 23.
What is a drill that has helped your game the most? I think that's another good question. These are good questions.
i mean i would just say like two on ones i feel like just being able to like stand either on one corner and like just hit hit two on ones like i feel like my game is so physical so i think just building up that um and then um i like like the hands like even though i tell my coach i hate hand hand feeds but i feel like it just helps me feel the ball and like slow things down to make like the technique feel like more sound nice good answer good answer thanks everyone for your questions uh
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