Mourning at the Church

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when you landed in Detroit, Providence, Denver, or Seattle. Listen to Sound of Our Town on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the story of a man who's fascinated me. His name was Sweet Daddy Grace, and that's a name you don't forget. He was a visionary who built a fortune as a black man during Jim Crow during the Depression, but today not many people know about him. He raised sort of wiped out,

and I want if this was done intentionally. Listen to Sweet Daddy Grace on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Today was all about how they discovered the final victim and in his body, that's Kenneth Roden, and it included a tense confrontation between Kenneth Roden's son and the man on trial and accused of taking part in the murder of his father six years ago. You were going over there to telling what a correct Yeah,

we went inside. Then that's when we've found out that he was deceased. But what are your thoughts about the Whiteners. My thoughts about the Wideners. I hope they Yet everything comes to this is the Pikes and Massacre returned to Pike County season four, episode five, Morning at the Church. Im Courtney Armstrong a television producer at Katie Studios with Stephanie Ledecker and Jeff Shane. Stephanie and I are currently in Pike County. All right, so here we are, wrote

the courthouse in Waverley. The courthouse is not as busy as it was when court proceedings began. Now it's mostly media and the victim's family members. It's important to note that George Wagner, the fourth currently on trial, has pleaded not guilty and has maintained he did not kill anyone. His father, Billy Wagner, whose trial is upcoming, has also pleaded not guilty to all charges. Today's testimony centered around the events leading up to the discovery of Kenneth Roden's body.

He was found by his cousin, Donald Stone, and was the last of the victims to be discovered. Here's Donald on the stand. How do you know Kenneth Roden Hco his mother and my father was brother and sisters. Some cousins are close, some aren't. Would you consider yourself to have been close to kind of real close? Okay, and tell us about that. Just you know, anytime that I was down and out, the man was there to help me. Their mother fed me when I was young, and they're

just helpful people. Donald Stone is understandably emotional in the witness chair. How did you learn that something had happened up on Union Hill Road? Well, I was a herd appointment that morning. I had talked to gentlemen while I was there and he asked me if I heard what happened on Union Hill And I got word that there was some people meeting at a church. So you went to the church on Union Hill Road? And who I was there? It's just there was a lot of people there.

Family may nervous, a lot of people there. Okay. At what point did you learn how many had been killed on Union Hill Road? Actually I hadn't known at the time how many there were. For sure. You indicated that you tried to call Kenneth at one time and that was from your home after that appointment, Yes, okay. Did you personally ever try to call Kenneth after that? Yes, well, when I tried to make the phone calls, I did

try to call him once. Okay. And while you were at the church, did there become some concerns about Kenneth not responding to phone calls? Yeah, okay. And can you tell us did you decide to go to Kenneth at some point? Yeah. We was at the church and Luke mentioned that he wanted to go to his dad's place, and he asked me if I wanted to go, and we went. Here's Stephanie and I speaking about the testimony

thus far. It's pretty powerful to be there. I also didn't realize that Donald Stone was not alone when he discovered Kenneth's body. I didn't realize Kenneth's son, Luke, was also present. I didn't know that either. I didn't know that either until today. How painful that must have been. Next, Antrew Kneppa begins the difficult process of walking the cousins through the discovery of Kenneth Rowden's body. Here again, Donald Stone,

we'll get out there. We got Alicore. We walked up to the door man Luke, and once we got to the door, I told you MOSI, this is your head's place. You need to go in. First we walked into the supposedly the living room, and I noticed to the right, I didn't see him in there nowhere, So I've seen a stairway to the right, and I walked up the stairway and as we found him a fairy and he's a bid And when you say you found him, can you tell us what condition you found him in? Yeah,

but o resides and where was he located? And he's mad, he's dead. Was it just you that walked up those stairs and saw Kenneth. Yes, it was significant, just being in the courtroom and being close to family members. Kenneth Rowden is one of the victims that we really have known the least about. We know that he's a father, we know that he lived by himself, and that he was extremely close with Chris Senior. Seeing these crime scene

photos it was pretty excruciating. I believe what struck me so much in the courtroom is it's cliche, but how very different it is seeing these actual photos versus anything you see when you watch TV or a movie. Just the stark lack of life and these photos was so impactful and felt so permanent. We were sitting just feet away from Kenneth's family members and for them I cannot imagine how excruciating it was for them to have to see that and imagine being Luke, this is his father.

He had to see his father's body and this was a violent crime. So the trauma that they've been through just seeing a dead body, let alone of somebody you love so deeply, and for them to have to get up there and relive it step by step by step, the bravery it took, I don't know that I would

be able to find that level of courage. Because Donald Stone identified the body, Caneppa had no choice but to have him relive the dramatic events through crime scene photos showing you what's been marked as one who will back to Do you recognize that photo? Yes? And can you tell us what you recognize that? As you live? He breaks down here and grabs more tissues. Caneppa, knowing this is horrible, prefaces each question with an apology. Sorry, and is that how he saw Kenneth Lyne in his bed.

You entered that d way, which is two of us. Mister Stone, can you look at that? I'm sorry, what do you recognize that as? And is that how you saw him on that day? Yes? And you indicated that he had just that imagine recollection of the blood that you saw him he is Okay. Here's James Pilcher, longtime investigative reporter in Cincinnati now with Local twelve. Everybody knows

in Pike County how these people died. I would say they are trying to shock the jury at this point with the violence of it, for sure, because they showed the pictures of people dead in their beds or on the floor time and time and time again. The trial is reopening wounds that may have only just begun to heal. Traveling with us as investigative journalist Jeff Winkler, who you'll remember from previous seasons. It was his article about the Rodent family that first peaked her interest in the case.

He's joined us for several trips to Pike County over the years. I think that's the weirdest thing is going into the courthouse as the trial is going and starting for George and the families still there, still grieving, still having the same kind of grief and trauma. Then seeing the family having just basically stuck in time of pain. Can you imagine, though, the level of grief and despair even just to have to sit there and look at these photos, which I might dad were pretty graphic and

we've never actually seen those before. I think that's what struck me walking in there today was just the I mean, it's been six years, you know, Yeah, so you've got the core warners and the core folks in the middle of the trauma. Everyone else's golf. I thought it was also interesting to finally see the matriarch of the Rodin family. She's Chris Senior's mother and the grandmother therefore of Hannahmey Roden, Chris Junior Roden, Frankie Rodin, and I believe then her

grandson would also be Luke. Chris and Kenneth were her sons, which yes, would make Luke her grandson. I was so sad for Geneva Roden because I looked over at one point and there were just some horrific crime scene photos being shown. Here's reporter A Jeanette Levy, who was also present in the courtroom, and Geneva Roden was consoling her

daughters who were sobbing. She was sobbing. They were kind of consoling one another and just understandably falling apart having to see photos of their loved ones murdered and what is just an unbelievable amount of blood in some instances. Meanwhile, Kenneth Roden's son Luke, had also caught wind of the murders on the morning of April twenty second, twenty sixteen. Here he is testifying alone came into my bedroom and said that I needed to get up then Chris and

everybody get out there shot up on the hill. Luke Roden is an imposing man with a beard and short brown hair. He wears a blue shirt. Luke is poised and speaks in a very matter of fact manner. As new spread around town of the murders, Luke tried to make his way to his uncle, Chris Senior's house, but

police had already cordoned off the road. And then do you know how you knew to go to the church someone who came on last night that they all meet never urge while you were trying to get through there, right, They informed you to go to the church. People were gathering at the church. Yeah, Luke found Donald Stone, his father's cousin and best friend, at the church. During this time. Do you make any attempts to contact your father? Yes, try to contact about a dozen times. Never seen anything

back from him. Okay, is that normal? Okay? At that point do you get concerned? Yes? Here again James Pilcher. Both of them talked about the chaos and all of the things that were happening when they didn't know where Ken was. They couldn't get a touch with him. The prosecution even showed a picture of the cell phone that Ken would put in his window to try to give a reception. And he went down to your dad's What did you do when you got there? I've seen on driveway,

so I'll get out. Special Prosecutor Angi Kneppa shows Luke and the jury various exterior photos of Kenneth's property. There is an abandoned boat on one side of the driveway entrance. Nestled back in the woods are two trailers and an outbuilding. It's April, so there are no leaves on the trees, but you can imagine it's pretty secluded. Once things are in bloom. Kneppa spends nearly thirty minutes dissecting each photo for the jury. Reporter James Pilcher noted the level of

detail on the part of the prosecution. I don't mean this is a criticism towards a prosecution, because they gotta do what they gotta do. But this is going extremely, extremely slowly. It feels like they're trying to kill a gnat with a ten pound sledge. They're pulling out every single piece of evidence they have for every single possible question that could come up. This trial has slowed to

a snail space. On cross examination, the defense questions Luke Roden about a local whose name we have heard come up in our investigation, Big Money Mike. Can tell us didn't tell you I've heard his name, book, didn't tell you who he is. You've heard his name from? Yeah, I didn't hear about it until everything has happened, so I can Stephanie and Jeff. In Luke Roden's testimony, he made it clear that he hadn't heard the name Big Money Mike until after the murders and didn't know how

it related to his family members being murdered. I'm curious where the prosecution is leading to, because it's come up now twice. We started doing our own digging about big Money Mike, and we have to assume that that stands for Michael Moran. He is the attorney that has since died that we covered pretty extensively in season two and he had a very checkered past. Maybe that's him, but again we don't know for sure. This is just another example of the prosecution building a narrative that we're not

totally sure where it will lead until they rest. Andrew Knapa asked Luke about what happened after he and Donald Stone entered his father's home. No, he stamped up in there and looked a ramp path me and told me to get out like he'd been shock. He told he had been shot, he said, but all over his face. When you were inside of your dad's home, did you step up at all into his bedroom. I don't believe I stand up doing his bedroom. I may stepped on the step right there. Maybe No, I don't believe I

stepped into the bedroom. Okay, were you able to see any part of him from where you were? I able to see his leg and at the top of his head and the blanket was actually placed like he has been placed. Ony, Okay, there was a blanket on him, right, Okay? Were you able to see his face at that time at all? Now? I just see his forehead and his hair. At this point, Conepa asked Luke about the money that

was found on Kenneth's body. I seem probably, I don't know how much, but like a few ones and fives and something like that, some money, paper money, and his parents was laying there beside it. Here's Stephanie and Jeff Winkler. We always sort of had heard that he had almost like there was money thrown all over his body. Yeah, it was a rolled up dollar bill and some change,

That's all. It wasn't there wasn't money lying everywhere. We always maybe thought that was such an interesting crime scene and very different than the others, and maybe that was a way of making it look like a hit, or like it look like the cartel had done it. It was a good reminder that in those first you know, first forty eight hours or whatever, of just pure speculation, that's hard enough to beat, but then these little bits of fantasy, hitch on for a rod and don't let go.

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ends up dead. Unfortunately for Bob, us girlfriends know how to fight back. I wanted him to pay for his crime. He needed to be put to justice. I'll be honest with you. If I saw him right now, I'd spit on him. I would call him and I would say, I know you killed my sister. I will always hound you and haunt you. You can listen to The Girlfriends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts from iHeart Podcasts. Whitney hell is going on here.

Everyone has their limits. I'd never confronted a situation like this. I just thought it was just a really terrible, immoral thing a line they won't cross. I was stunned and I just said, no, we're killing people. You may never have to face that decision when you find yourself at that line. Its ricin, arn't ricin, And somebody needs to just for once give everybody the whole truth, like this is evil and the only person who can sound the alarm is you. I wasn't just going to sit silently.

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For most of the morning, George Wagner the fourth, it's motionless looking down. This is true, especially during Donald Stone's emotional testimony. George Wagner finally makes eye contact when questions turned to his family. Luke only had brief interactions with the Wagners over the years, but one with Billy stuck out in his memory. I was out at his property

one time. It was the one that pretty far off the grid, and my dad and Chris learning the backau for him to do something, and backhead went the star. So he got a hold of my dad and Chris. They brought some tarps and space heater and all that didn't get the back. I warmed up in order to get us started. I was standing there on the trailer and he was named beside me, look at me, he said, he's top. He said, there's some really good people. He said that if Air had to funk with him, that

they had to shoot him. If they ever had what mess with him, if he had had a tussle with him, whatever, he had had to shoot him. Did he explain why that was or did he say anything more? That was it, But he was telling you they were really great people. Yeah. First right at the end of his testimony, Luke was asked to point out George by both the prosecution and the defense. Mister present today. Yes, you have so many points where he's sitting, he described. First one, he's weird

him right there. The best one changed appearance was at all. Yes he has Wait wise, he was much larger when you last saw him. Right, Yes, here again, Stephanie. I was struck just by seeing George Wagner in person, having never seen him before. In person, he was slighter than I imagined him being. He's got good, a little ball going on, you know, boots are shined, just kind of looks regular, which is not what you you know, they're supposed to have some sort of like dark glow around them. Right.

Media covering the trial immediately latched onto the story. Luca told about his interaction with Billy Wagner, the son of one of the Pike County massacre victims, testified Billy Wagner's right in the road and family four or five years before the actual shootings. Luke said that while his dad and uncle were doing a good deed for Billy Wagner, Billy told Luke that a dust up between the three

of them would not end well. After kenep as well planned line of questioning of Luke crowdon George's defense attorney has very little to add. He rests within minutes here again, James Pilcher. Clearly they are cutting off any opportunity for the defense to ask, well, why didn't you ask this, Why didn't you do that? Why didn't you this? Now the defense is still trying to find its way to do that. The final witness of the day illustrates the

prosecution strategy perfectly. Brett Hatfield was a friend and co worker of Kenneth Rod's. He opts out of media coverage, but we were there to follow his testimony. Brett Hatfield worked in Columbus at the same company as Kenneth, so

the pair very often car pool together. However, on the morning of April twenty second, twenty sixteen, they didn't, and when Hatfield arrived at Kenneth's home, probably around four am the morning of April twenty second, he said there were no lights on and that Kenneth's did income to the door as he normally did. It turns out that the day before, Hatfield said that Kenneth had complaining of high blood pressure, a condition that Luke explains sometimes made him

sick and could cause him to miss work. So despite Kenneth's car being in the lot, Hatfield assumed that maybe somebody picked him up and took him to the hospital, so he just left. James Pilcher, he came and saw Kenneth all the time, so you put him up on the sand. They're going incrementally chronologically, and I think they're feeling in their way as they go through this trial. To let the jury know, we took every step to interview everybody we could. Legal analyst Mike Allen, who's speaking

with Jeff, agrees, it just tells the story here. This poor guy, you know, he wants to pick up his buddy to drive to Columbus to go to work, but he's not there. That's something that's pretty strong and I know the prosecution what the jury hear that. Yeah, it definitely paints a picture, and that's what they need to do. That's what they're doing. Hours after Hatfield left Kenneth Rowden's trailer that morning, a member of the road and family

called to tell him about the murders. Hatfield immediately left work in Columbus and returned to Piketon. Here's Luke Rowden. Did he arrive at some point? Yes, he did. Whenever we're sitting our way on the cops to come and all that, he showed up on his four waller and just there's like a scamer my dad's property behind his trailer and stuff like that. Okay, and do you know what he was looking for at the time, cameras see if the camera was still arounced to see if there

was any footage or less. Okay, many of the cameras were missing. The prosecution asked him about Kenneth's dog, Brownie. Earlier in the day, both Luke Roden and Donald Stone testified the dog was inside the trailer when they arrived, but Hatfield adds a very telling detail about the dog here again Stephanie and Jeff. Interesting about Brownie is that Hatfield says the dog would bite anybody, didn't matter who

you were unless you called the dog by name. And that's interesting because it was reported that the Wagoners didn't have any dog bites on them whatsoever, So why didn't Brownie attack so step That says to me that it seems pretty likely that whoever was there that night must have known the dog by name. And keep in mind that we have heard from numerous people that many of the road and properties had dogs like this on them, so that would be indicative that whoever was at all

of these crime scenes knew all of the dogs. In theory, Hatfield added yet another chilling detail to the timeline of April twenty sixteen. He said that when he found out about the murders, he tried calling everyone in the Rodent family. He even sent a DM to Hannah May on social media, who, as we know, was tragically already dead. Hatfield said that he never got a response, but he did get a notification that the message was read. So what does that mean?

I would imagine after the murder, the killers were probably cleaning up or figuring out what to do, and her phone was pinging and to silence that maybe they looked at it or opened the text message and shut it down. All we know is that Hotfield sent a message after she was already murdered, and somebody read that message, and it could not have been Hannah May Rodin We know that it's come up that Jake Wagner took several phones from the crime scenes and allegedly destroyed them the next day.

Is this one of those phones? And think about this? Can you imagine being Jake Wagner and you're literally reading a text on the phone of the mother of your baby who you just murder, and you have enough wherewithal to potentially check her phone and read her texts. With the trial underway, the Rodent family is inching towards closure, but not before some wounds are reopened for all the world to see. Let's stop here for another break. Oh. I'm Carol Fisher, and I'm hosting a podcast called The

girl Friends. Back in the nineteen nineties in Las Vegas, a few of us dated the most eligible bachelor in town, Bob. He spoke several languages, he did medical missionary work, and he was Jewish. He was perfect on paper, but he wasn't. He really wasn't. He shouted and to the point she went unconscious. Bob could lie about anything, but only takes the one time when somebody ends up dead. Fortunately for Bob, us girlfriends know how to fight back. I wanted him

to pay for his crime. He needed to be put to justice. I'll be honest with you. If I saw him right now, I'd spit on him. I would call him and I would say, I know you killed my sister. I will always hound you and haunt you. You can listen to The girl Friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts from iHeart Podcasts. Whitney hell is going on here. Everyone has their limits. I'd

never confronted a situation like this. I just thought it was just a really terrible, immoral thing a line they won't cross. I was stunned and I just said, no, we're killing people. You may never have to face that decision when you find yourself at that line. Thou its ricin. R's ricin, and somebody needs to just for once give everybody the whole truth. I'm like, this is evil and the only person who can sound the alarm is you. I wasn't just going to sit silently. Buy from iHeart Podcasts.

These are the whistleblowers. If you are disloyal, thinks are going to happen to this week out disgrace to our gun. Evil pol be prosecute when power corrupts. Conscience is the last line of defense. I'm Miles Taylor. Listen to the Whistleblowers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name's Laverne Cox. I'm an actress, producer, fashionista, and host of The Laverne Cox Show. You may remember my award winning first season. I've been pretty busy. There's

always time to touch incredible guests about important things. People like me have been screaming for years. We've got to watch the Supreme Court. What they're doing is wrong. What they're doing is evil. They will take things away, and I can only hope that Dobbs is that like Pearl Harbor moment or you and I both know what it took to just get through the day in New York City and get home in one piece. And so the fact that we're here and what you've achieved and what

I've achieved, you know, that's momentous. It's not just sitting around complaining about some bills. The only reason that you might think, as Chase said, that we're always miserable is because people are constantly attacking us and we're constantly noticing it. Listen to the Laverne Cox Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to subscribe and share. She's a Hollywood Western She's Jack Harrouac,

but in a nap dress with braids. She is one of the most important American children's authors of the twentieth century. She's the basis for a television show still watched around the world. Somebody somewhere is watching Little Us There. She's been called a hero, a racist, a feminist, and a propagandist. I think the harm is too great because It's just one more thing that Native children have to endure. She is Laura Ingles Wilder, author of the book series Little

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Luke was interviewed on the courthouse steps. Luke, what was it like to be on the witness standing now racking, seeing the photos and stuff and bringing the past up and their thing is really horror my mental state. And Geneva's your grandmother right correct? Talk about how this is an effect that we've seen her crying or just talking about her in the whole family house is effected. She and went there a lot, and I wish you never

had to go through any of this. She's lost children at a young age and and now she's deale with all her other children and her grandchildren murdered, and I think everything's getting closer to the end. I can't wait tillabor really, so rest of our family go on with our lives and I can't imagine. Can you even put it into words? Whatever's like or a s nightmare? Living in hell? Really? What are your thoughts about the Wageners? My thoughts about the Wideners. I hope they get everything

comes to them. When you examine that hat, did you find would you believed to be a bullet hole in the back of it? Yes, both sides agreed the traces of Gary Rowden's blood were found on the door knob, but not of the Wagoners. That seemed to make the case for the defense. None of the evidence collected we're examined with respect to that scene contained any DNA that was linked to George Wagner, this defendant, Jake Wagner, Angela Wagner, or Billy Wager. When are they all going to tie

this together? When are they going to point to George being part of this conspiracy? Because none of the physical evidence presented so far hid any of the Wagoners to any of these crime scenes. I can tell you the prosecutors are telling us behind the scenes it's coming. It's coming. It's coming that we're all going to tie it together. We're starting to see threads of it. Blade More on

that next time. For more information on the case and elevant photos, follow us on Instagram at Katie Underscore Studios. The Piked and Masker is produced by Stephanie Lydecker, Jeff Shane, Scott DeGraw, Andrew Arnow and me Courtney Armstrong. Editing and sound designed by Jeff ta Music by Jared Aston. The Piked and Masaker is a production of iHeartRadio and Katie Studios.

For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I'm Carol Fisher and I'm hosting a podcast called The girl Friends. It's Las Vegas, it's the nineteen nineties, and it is time to find a husband. There were four Jewish doctors who were felt to be eligible bachelors. One of them was of the Baron bat On paper, he was perfect, but in reality, this guy's a wacko. He

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