Cold Blooded

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over twenty I'm solved homicides in Pike County. I want the community to realize this can happen to their family. This is the piked In massacre returned to Pike County Season three, Episode nine, Cold Blooded. I'm Courtney Armstrong, a television producer at Katie Studios with Stephanie Lidacker and Jeff Shane. Over the last two seasons, we've covered a few local stories that we believed were unrelated to the massacre. Turns

out we may have been mistaken. This episode is dedicated to tying up the loose ends of these stories that have new endings or new developments. We're also exploring the intersection between many of the main players who also have ties to the Roden murders. The connections are undeniable. The Roden murders of April twenty sixteen, earth shattering as they were, have pushed law enforcement in southern Ohio to the limit. It's left their relatively small ranks hyper extended as a result.

As local cold case advocates like Angie Montgomery point out, many other local homicides have gone ignored. In fact, there are at least nine other murder cases in Pike County dating back to two thousand that have iced over without resolution or even charges issued. In light of the county's population of only fifty eight thousand, this number is staggering.

Tracy Evans won the election, and he called me in January when he went into office and told me that he was going to try his best with the case and to do the best he could with it. He got in contact with the BCI and they were working on some things. Speaking as Angie Montgomery, a piked and mother of four and spiritual adviser. Once her kids were grown, Angie decided to dedicate her life to being a cold

case advocate. Here she is talking about Sheriff Tracy D. Evans, who took over the Pike County Sheriff's office in twenty twenty. This was after Sheriff Charles Reader, who spearheaded the Road and Investigation, pled guilty to corruption charges. Reader is currently facing a three year sentence at the Toledo Correctional Facility.

Here's Stephanie and Jeff. Just as a reminder, Sheriff Charlie Reader was the sheriff at the time of the Road and murders, and he's ever been directly associated with the murders, but he, alongside former DA Mike DeWine, we're very public talking about it at the time, and after a very thorough investigation, Reader agreed to be suspended in July twenty nineteen, and shortly after was indicted on eighteen counts that included

also racketeering. Beloved Sheriff Charlie Reader was accused of stealing more than fourteen thousand dollars from the sheriff's office and seized drug money. What he would do was go into these evidence envelopes that were in his possession, take out money, go gamble with it, and then put the money back before anyone noticed, and allegedly he repeated this process numerous

times before anyone even caught on. In September twenty twenty, Reader pled guilty to two counts of theft, one count of tampering with evidence, and then also one count of

conflict of interest. Another matter that doesn't necessarily relate to this, but is just another strike against Sheriff Reader's morality is the story from twenty twenty one that he was sued by Tony officials over collecting salary and benefits that they say he improperly collected while he was suspended as they were investigating all this other stuff that he had done. According to the lawsuit, Charlie Reader collected over one hundred

and twenty thousand dollars from the city. It's not clear the exact status of this litigation, but it is just another strike against the sheriff. Here again, Angie Montgomery, we had a meeting with Tracy Evans in June, myself and Curtis smother and Jenny sisters, and he told us that Jeff the BTI decided not to assist with the case, that he was going to wash his hands with them. It's important to note that this is Angie Montgomery's recollection

of events. We've reached out to Sheriff Tracy Evans for comment but did not receive a response. The Curtis and Jenny Angie is referring to are her cousin Curtis Francis and his fiance Jennifer Burgett. The pair were found dead in their bed on December ninth, two thousand and six, in their home at one hundred and twenty four Hopper Road in Piketon. Thirty four year old Curtis and thirty year old Jennifer were each at once while asleep. The

killings became known as the Hopper Road murders. According to Angie, Curtis and his fiance Jennifer were excited to get married. They both loved hunting and fishing, and Chris was a jovial guy known for playing practical jokes. Curtis had just had shoulder replacement surgery and had a supply of pain medications, so one early theory was that the killers were after his pills. In the sixteen years since the murders, the case has been opened and closed several times without a

single arrest. It's currently a cold case. Sheriff Evans, who during his campaign promised voters to improve resources for victims, has deflected Angie's passionate please to reopen the case. He

was done with it. Basically, there was nothing more they could do that we would have to turn to the media if we wanted to get help with the case, which was kind of heartbreaking, because you know, he gets elected and tells us that he's going to do everything he can, but then he's flipping it around and saying, if the BCI does that helped him. I'm just going to wash my hands with it, so you kind of

contradict him what she told me. Kind he gave us like salt hope, like this guy's really going to dig into it and do something, and turns around and says if the BCI doesn't do anything, he's not going to do anything. And he also said that he didn't want kIPS called into the sheriff's tournament, which I thought was very odd. The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation or BCI, has offered no new support. Here's investigative reporter and journal

is a professor, James Pilcher. Unfortunately, the Francis and Burgette case has been ruled a cold case now by both of the Pike prosecutor in the Ohio Attorney General's office. That happened about two years ago, so now it's on the shelf. There's no answers and unless family members can come forwards new evidence, or if something just pops up or somebody walks in off the street and says I did it, you know, that's pretty much what's gonna happen

for anything to move on this case. For Angie, this case has been a long and frustrating series of missed opportunities and snaffoos. In twenty sixteen, investigators discovered a hidden well at three twenty four win Road, five minutes from Hopper Road. This well contained a saddle gun, a lever action eighteen shot that is what Curtis and Jenny were

killed with. There was also a pistol sunk in the swampy well, but according to reports, in the process of trying to flood the evidence out of the well, the fire department blew an eighty foothole in the well and wash the guns away. And then there was the issue of the lost nine one one call. Here again, Angie Montgomery, and then they tell me that they lost a nine

one one call. They're not very efficient with things. You would think that that would be one of the main things you would keep a hold of in a double homicide. So it kind of worried me that they did turn everything over that they have to the BCI to bc I light look at it and faceful, there isn't anything here we can walk with. That's where it falls back on all these cases, all these cases that are unsolved, it's the same thing. It's repetitive. All families I talked to.

They go through the same thing they go through, which is they lost this or they don't have this, And why doesn't a sheriff want keeps cone into the sheriff's office. You know you got twelve documented until homicides in your account. Why aren't you asking the public for help for these cases? It's like they're just shoved to the side. That's how the case has become cold. Angie is still holding out hope that the BCI will reopen the cold case and

look at it with fresh eyes. It's actually their cold Case unit, which is through the Ohio Attorney General's Office, and they are amazing. They just solved a forty seven year old homicide. They're really good. So if they do take it on and assist, I think that will get an arrest because they're good at what they do. But I'm also worried about what all Pike County has given them. What ultimately stands in the way of the Francis case

finding resolution. Is it incompetence, apathy like the killer behind this awful crime. It remains a mystery. I've got someone in curtain Junie's case that gave a statement back in two thousand and six when it happened, and he was the last person to see Kurs and Jennifer alive, and he went to the Sheriff's office and gave him a statement that he was there, and those people haven't They never called him back, They never followed up with him.

And I had him go again and make another statement with mister Evans, the new sheriff and turning in and I asked him every day and they have not called him. They have not followed up with him. So to me, that makes me think that they don't care, period, because that's a pretty big guils someone saying they were the last person to see two people alive that were murdered, and you're not going to call him back and talk to him. It's eerie the way things are done around here.

We don't know where the Francis case will go, but there's yet another piken A case, this one involving a young man named Jacob Lansing that has had its own investigative issues. In January of twenty eighteen, piked In prosecutors thought they had their man. Paul Detti, thirty one, was all set to face trial and in Pike County Common Pleas court charged with aggravated murder for the twenty twelve death of Jacob Lansing, but then prosecutors suddenly reverse course.

Newly uncovered evidence exonerated Debty, and the death penalty case was dismissed. Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk, who's overseeing the road in trials, described this case as one of the weirdest he'd ever seen. On October twenty seventh, twenty twelve, Jacob Lansing's body was found underneath the vehicle at his River Road home. Authorities thought it was an unfortunate accident in which the suv the twenty five year old had been working fell on him, but his mother, Maureen, was

incredulous and took action. The fact that Jacob wasn't dressed in his usual coveralls while working on his car did not wash here again, Stephanie and Jeff. Rob Junk is one of the main prosecutors against the Wagoners, and as we've come to learn over the years, he was involved with both Reader brothers. All of these names kind of keep coming back to each other. He had a very public social media spat with Sheriff Charlie Reader, where Sheriff Reader was threatening to take Rob Junk down, or, as

he put it, take the quote unquote Junk out. It turns out it was Rob Junk who would end up being an integral part in getting both Charlie and Brian Reader removed from their posts. A lot of people have theorized that the main reason that Brian Reader was removed from office was because of his handling of the lancing case. However, it's been reported on that Brian Reader was terminated for attendance records and sick time. This is according to Pike

County Commissioner Blaine Beakman. As for Rob Junk in January of twenty nineteen, he noted that his office as an out will employer, and he can quote let somebody go if I don't like the color of their socks. Here again are Montgomery. He never worked on his fickle in his sport twelve. That's what was bug and her there were the package cigarettes beside him, and he didn't smoke.

So she got a private investigator, did it behind the CoP's back, and got her own evidence and took all of her evidence into Rob Junk, and Rob said, well, we'll look at it. This was a rare instance where an insistent family member was able to move the dial with the prosecutor's office. Jacob's mom, Marine never believed that his death was an accident. Now finally, in late twenty sixteen early twenty seventeen, she got Brian Reader to listen.

Ryan was the chief investigator at the time with the Pike County Prosecutor's Office that's Rob Junk who is now part of the prosecution team overseeing the prosecution of the Wagners. He opened an investigation and even had the body exhumed and an autopsy perform and that revealed that he had

been beaten and strangled to death. This means that Jacob Lansing's killer took his dead body, placed it under his suv, and then precipitously dropped the vehicle to make it look like Jacob was crushed a freak accident, but based on the new evidence, the death was ruled a homicide. Bryan spent months and months following the leads and doing interviews

to find these suspects. Zeran and on a man named Paul Michael Allan Detty, who we arrested in May of twenty seventeen, but in January of twenty eighteen, a week before detty's trials to begin. Rob Junk, who I mentioned before he was prosecutor, dismissed the case without prejudice and Debti was released. He cited new evidence that popped up that affected the case, but he never told us what that evidence was. A year later, in twenty nineteen, Rob

Young fired Brian Reader. Investigator. Brian Reader, who had been spearheading the probe, was let go from the prosecutor's office in twenty nineteen. He is the brother of Charlie Reader, the disgraced former Pike County sheriff. Apparently Reader's payroll records and personnel files were under investigation by the state auditor for some time. Due to Reader's firing and the general lack of viable leads, the Jacob Lansing case stalled. No

further arrests were made. In November twenty twenty, Jacob's mother, Maureen Lansing, issued an eight thousand dollars reward for information about her son's murder. It has yet to be collected. We're going to take a break. We'll be back in a moment. Oh. I'm Carol Fisher, and I'm hosting a podcast called The girl friends. Back in the nineteen nineties in Las Vegas, a few of us dated the most eligible bachelor in town, Bob. He spoke several languages, he

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I know you killed my sister. I will always hound you and haunt you. You can listen to the girlfriends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts from iHeart podcasts. Whitney hell is going on here. Everyone has their limits. I'd never confronted a situation like this. I just thought it was just a really terrible, immoral thing, a line they won't cross. I was stunned, and I

just said, no, we're killing people. You may never have to face that decision when you find yourself at that line, thou art Ricin and somebody needs to just for once give everybody the whole truth, like this is evil and the only person who can sound the alarm is you. I wasn't just going to sit silently. Buy from iHeart Podcasts. These are the whistleblowers. If you are disloyal, things are going to happen to speak out disgrace to our gun

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not just sitting around complaining about some bills. The only reason that you might think, as Chase said, that we're always miserable is because people are constantly attacking us and we're constantly noticing it. Listen to The Laverne Cox Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to subscribe and share. Hello and welcome to Bad Manners. This is the podcast that takes you inside Britain's stately homes and tells all the tales

the guide books don't. My name is Tom Burton and I'll be your host. Britain is riddled with the big houses, from crumbling castles, massive mansions and stately piles bigger than Buckingham Palace. As a comedian, I'm not really bothered about the facts and figures. I just want the juicy stuff. So I'm on a mission to find out the frightening, filthy and downright jaw dropping stories of these stately homes

and the people in them. This podcast ventures deep inside some of Britain's most incredible and outrageous buildings to spill the tea on the scandalous, scary, shocking and hilarious tales. So if you want to get historically horrid, royally rawcus and down to dirty, look no further. Listen to Bad Man Is on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, well wherever you get your podcasts. What happened to Meghan and Katie Lancaster. This is the harrowing story of two young

sisters in law, one missing and one dead. This happened in a small town called Portsmouth, Ohio, one hundred miles east of Cincinnati. It's a town of twenty thousand people on the north bank of the Ohio River. Here again, James Pilcher. I believe Meghan Lancaster got involved with some bad people, like the people that have been thought to have killed some women up narrow chill a coffee and she got involved in that ring, or whether or not she just something went sideways with one of her clients

or whatever. I think. Meghan is buried somewhere in those hills of Sciota County. It's not like Pike County because you get down south of Pike County, you start hitting where the glaciers came through to create the Ohio River. It's very, very, very hilly, and there's all these hollers and valleys and woods and forests, and there's a lot of places to hide a body. And I think she's

buried or they dumped her somewhere and she's gone. Meghan Lancaster, a mother and former high school softball player, was twenty five when she disappeared on the evening of April third, twenty thirteen, dressed in jeans and an Ohio State sweatshirt. She'd spent the evening with friends. Megan called her mother at about seven thirty to say she'd be home soon. There was no communication from her after that. Meghan's white Mustang was located a few days later at a Rally's

Hamburger in Portsmouth. Her wallet was found on the front seat. She left behind her seven year old son, whose name was tattooed on her shoulder. Portsmouth Police detect of Steve Brewer spearheaded the missing person's investigation, but no one looked for Megan more intensely than her sister in law and best friend, Katie Lancaster. Megan had been scraping by as a sex worker and had fallen into a life of addiction. So the search led Katie into the vast and shadowy

underworld of sex trafficking and Portsmouth. Undeterred, Katie threw herself in defining her sister in law victims. Oudvocate Angie Montgomery, who helped Katie and her search efforts, describe Katie's fearlessness and determination. Their pursuit began with scouring back page, which sex workers often used to advertise their services. When I first started to hang on with Katie, we would sit for hours with our laptops and go through that website back page looking for her. Hours like we would get

babysitters so we could sit and go through. She would send his pictures like Megan's. I remember she said a birthmark about her belly buttons. So we would look through these pictures of these girls because mostly they would and showed her faces and we would look for that birthmark. Just hours and hours and hours of doing that. So in the beginning I kind of did because she had a couple of leaves she sent me a video one

time of a girl in Columbus on Sullivan Avenue. It was a traffic cam that looked a lot like Megan. Hey would get in the car. She would get in the car and go to strip joints and she would talk to pants, She would talk to drug dealers. She was not scared to do that. And in the beginning, I did think she might be out there somewhere, but I don't think so. Now I don't think she's here anymore.

Angie says that Katie's fierceness inspired her own efforts to keep fighting to solve Curtis and Jennifer's double homicide on Hopper Road. I started to tell her a little bit about Curtis and Jennifer, and she one that told me to be a squeaky wheel because you'll get the most grief. I mean. She would go on television and talk and I would watch her and I'm like, she's so brave, And she would sit and talk with me and tell me, you got to do this. You've got to be a voice.

Nobody else is going to do this. You have to do this. You know. She's the reason why I fight so hard. I watched how relentful, she was, how passionate she was, and she was kind of like my hero because there are a lot of bad guys in this area and she was not afraid to stand up against the powers that be. Katie was well aware that there could be consequences for ruffling too many feathers. With her

insistent please for justice. Stupould always say, you know, if something happens to me, make sure you look into it. I'm sure you find out that that's really what happened to me. Because when you do go up against the people, and you know, the small enforcement or attorneys or judges, there's always that fear they might retaliate against you. And she knew that, but she also always said, no, I'm on social media, I'm on TV. I'm saying what I

need to say about these people to these people. That way, if something does happen to me, people will know to look into it, you know, instead of being quiet about it. So that always stuck with me. So the more she kind of pumped me up, the louder I got. Katie believed fervently that her sister in law got cut up with Michael Moran. Moran was a prominent local attorney who was later indicted on eighteen sex trafficking related charges. We

covered his story in season one of this podcast. The indictment accused Moran of engaging in sex trafficking from two thousand and three to twenty eighteen, with at least six victims being involved. Here's reporter Bob Strictly who covered the story for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Michael Moran is an attorney that's been practicing for several decades. He's originally from Ironton, Ohio,

which is just up the river from Portsmouth. He operates of an office that is right across the street from the Scato County Courthouse, and he was appointed to fulfill a term on Portsmouth City Council and continued until recently to practice criminal defense law until his law license was suspended after he was charged with different sex trafficking related crimes. Here again, Stephanie and Jeff. Marent's focus as a lawyer was Portsmouth's underworld, which gave him easy access to things

like sex workers and drug dealers. He also has a connection to the Wagner's and just as a reminder, Pug Carter is actually Angela Wagner's father. And George and Jake's grandfather, and he was allegedly using his pawn business to rip people off back in the day. He was also a

frequenter of this nefarious place called Big Bear Lake. It's a location we've heard about for years but haven't been able to speak about it until now, and it appears to be a place that intersects Michael Moran, Sheriff Charles Reader, the Wagners, as well as the Roadents. It may be a key factor in the trials ahead. Big Bear Lake could hauld deep secrets that pertained to the case. We'll

get into that a little more next week. Here's James Pilcher speaking about Michael Moran and his connection to Pug Carter. I gotta tell you he would represent anybody that came in his door, and he specialized in low level crime and drug offenses and DUIs and all of that. That was his specialty. That's how he made his living. The fact that a guy like Pug Carter came across his bow and he represented him was not surprising to me

at all, because that's what he specialized in. But now he was facing possibly career ending allegations from a half dozen women here again, Bob. Strictly, I would say that the women had stepped forward or was at the forefront. It just took somebody hidden me over the head with a fish that'd actually start paying attention to it in regard that it demands. What set this one apart for me, It was just the amount of women that stepped forward and said something about this to us and talk to

us about it. And then also the apparatus that has to exist around a person like Michael Moran for an operation as we've reported on to exist in the first place, a lot of people have to turn their heads. I think, if anything, over the years working on this particular story, it's kind of the damnability of people who just turned the other way and don't care about what's going on right in front of them in their community is more

prevalent than maybe we all realized. Initially. The charges against Moran included three counts of trafficking in person, five counts of compelling prostitution, nine counts of promoting prostitution, and one count of engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. His arrest was orchestrated by a Human Trafficking Task Force under Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost, combining the forces of the BCI and several other agencies. Moran was the first domino

to fall. Multiple other people are still under investigation. Megan Lancaster had a color coded notebook in which she kept track of clients. The entries included scribbles such as quote dance for and quote men who give money, and included Moran's name and number, along with a notation of eighty dollars again, Bob strictly. There were rumors about Lancaster's disappearance

being related to Moran for several years. Her sister in law provided us with her little address like slash fun number book with different numbers in it, dozens and dozens and dozens of different numbers of men Moran was listed in there. We called all of those people to see what their associations were with Lancaster and came back with what we came back with. But she's still missing, and I give her credit for continuing to keep the issue forefront.

According to investigators, there were at least six women entangled in his exploitative ring. Moran denied all allegations. Was Megan Lancaster just another piece of his disposable merchandise. After years of probing the Megan Lancaster case when cold. In May of twenty twenty one, eight years after her disappearance, the Ohio BCI issued an age advanced rendering of Megan as a forensic tool to reignite interest in finding her. Soon after, the case was turned over to the BCI Cold Case Unit.

Katie was hopeful, but nothing came of it. Meanwhile, Moran remained business as usual. Michael Moran was out on bond, and part of his bond agreement was not to practice law, and he was under investigation and possible suspension by the Bar Association, and he still showed up trying to defend a client in municipal court. So they rescinded his bond agreement and they put him on house arrestle of the bracelet. But that shows you that he was arrogant to the end.

Then in October of twenty twenty one, the tragedy deepened when Katie Lancaster, then thirty three, was found dead in a residence on the fourth block of Portsmouth. Angie Montgomery was devastated. I can't reneger who told me somebody sent me a message about it. Of course, the first thing I did was crying my head off because she was one of my really good friends. She's the reason that

I fight so hard. As reporter James Pilcher tells us, Katie's death was a possible overdose, possibly induced by the stresses of relentlessly searching for her missing sister in law, but no one knows for sure. Being the advocate can really wear on you. There's only so much fuel in the tank, There's only so much emotional fuel in the tank, or something like that. And the funny thing is is that she wasn't really other than being her sister in law.

She wasn't really technically related to her. She was really good friends with her, and then to lose her possibly a drug overdose, given all of what's going on in Syoda County, in Pike County, it was just such a tragic, tragic thing to hear given everything that that family has been through. As tragical as it is that she's gone, the fact that she kept going as long as she did and brought attention to this is one of the reasons why we had the story that we did. Angie

has her doubt. It's about the apparent overdose infiltrating the sex trafficking world like she was. Could Katie have been silenced? I'm going to be honest with you, she was easy. I didn't know it. Around this area, they find ways to meet people quiet Like at first, when I found out that it was supposed an overdose, I was like, no, something's wrong. There's been people here in Pike Canody that have died of apparent drug overdoses and everybody knews better.

As brutal as the fate of these two women is, it did raise awareness of the struggle of women living in the margins. Bob, strictly, it certainly is taking you an Epstein Weinstein sort of story and saying, yeah, it can happen here too. There's positions of power litter throughout our society that are in a spot where they can abuse where they stand because they're marginalized people nobody will listen to. This is a small town example of a lot of really brave women stepping up and telling their

stories and hoping that something changes. James Pilcher points out that small town cases of sex abuse are systemically no different from anywhere else. The one thing that this did was made me so much more aware, and so much more interested in telling the stories of all these women all over the country. It doesn't matter if it was a small town Portsmouth, Ohio or suburban Chicago. I've spoken to girls who got trapped into it by their uncles,

and they've lived in pretty affluent suburbs of Seattle. This sex trafficking is an onerous, evil thing that is going on everywhere. It's never going to stop until you make it harder on the men for buying the sex and going after the sex than it is for the women selling the sex, who most likely, more than likely, highly likely are being coerced into it. It's never going away.

I will say that's one thing that I took away from that whole experience is just how whide my eyes were opened to this whole semi underbelly of American society. Let's stop here for another break. Oh. I'm Carol Fisher, and I'm hosting a podcast called The girl Friends. Back in the nineteen nineties in Las Vegas, a few of us dated the most eligible bachelor in town, Bob. He spoke several languages, he did medical missionary work, and he was Jewish. He was perfect on paper, but he wasn't

he really wasn't. He choked into the point she went unconscious. Bob could lie about anything, but only takes the one time when somebody ends up dead. Unfortunately for Bob, us girlfriends know how to fight back. I wanted him to pay for his crime. He needed to be put to justice. I'll be honest with you. If I saw him right now, I'd spit on him. I would call him and I would say, I know you killed my sister. I will

always hound you and haunt you. You can listen to the girlfriends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts from iHeart podcasts. Whitney hell is going on here. Everyone has their limits. I'd never confronted a situation like this. I just thought it was just a really terrible immoral thing, a line they won't cross. I was stunned, and I just said, no, we're killing people. You may never have to face that decision when you

find yourself at that line. Bounce Ricin, arn't Ricin, And somebody needs to just for once give everybody the whole truth, like this is evil and the only person who can sound the alarm is you. I wasn't just going to sit silently. Buy from iHeart Podcasts. Are the whistleblowers. If you are disloyal, thanks are going to happen to speak out disgrace to our good evil prosecute when power corrupts. Conscience is the last line of defense. I'm Miles Taylor.

Listen to the Whistleblowers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name's Laverne Cox. I'm an actress, producer, fashionista, and host of The Laverne Cox Show. You may remember my award winning first season. I've been pretty busy. There's always time to touch incredible guests about important things people like me have been screaming for years. We've got to watch the Supreme Court. What they're doing is wrong, what they're doing as evil. They

will take things away. And I can only hope that Dobbs, is that like Pearl Harbor moment or you and I both know what it took to just get through the day in New York City and get home in one piece. And so the fact that we're here and what you've achieved and what I've achieved, you know, that's momentous. It's not just sitting around complaining about some bills. The only reason that you might think, as Chase said, that we're always miserable is because people are constantly attacking us and

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during Prohibition. Remus is in the whiskey business, and Remus is the biggest man in the business, while living the life of luxury with his clamorous and ambitious wife Imogene. Daddy, I am so glad you are here. But George Ramus's wild existence took a dark and shocking turn, leading to betray She had Remus just exactly where she wanted him revenge. Feel this muscle. I got this for Remus. I could

crush him like an egg. And one of the most sensational murder trials in American history, we the jury, find the defendant, Join me Abbot Kaylor As we traced George Remus's transformation from Bootleg King to alleged Madman. Listen to Remus the Mad Bootleg King every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In November of twenty twenty one, Michael Moran, who had a number of health issues, died while Aldam Bond after a brief

hospital stay. His case was then dismissed, but Moran might have left behind a more wide ranging network of abuse and exploitation. James Pilcher, the women wives he ruined are not getting a shot to face him in court, in face person that did this to them. But there's so much more to that story than just Michael Moran. There's so much more what was going on in Portsmouth and how his operation had created all of these webs into branches of government. I really think that there are people

that do not want it to go any further. Now that Moran is dead, you're opening a whole can of worms. I mean, they had opened an investigation into all of the previous convictions and trials overseen by William Marshall. The judge who was known to pal around with Michael Moran, who was possibly named in the federal affidavit. The first turn to saw on to the Moran story and that other women said that they slept with him and that

Moran set it up. According to an article published an a frill of twenty twenty by The Daily Independent, in twenty nineteen, more than two thousand and seven hundred cases Judge William Marshall Oversaw were reviewed by the state. This happened after it was revealed that he was potentially involved with Michael Moran's sex trafficking ring, among other allegations. He has never commented on these controversies, and he describes her reaction when she learned Moran was dead. I turned my

phone on and it was blown up. I was like, oh God, something happened, and I've seen it like that son of a bitch. That's horrible to say about someone passing away, but I got mean, you got away and he took all these secrets with him, because there's way more than him involved in all that. I'm hoping that he stilled the beans and told the whole story before he passed away, but I don't know. He was an awful evil man. There were other people involved and they

need to be prosecuted. That there's women, men are dead because of that, and when the men are missy because of what he did. For years he denied it, but everybody knew what he was doing. It surprised me that it took that long for something to be done about it. It's a long time. People have been talking about that for fifteen years. But as Angie says, in the end, Moran will still meet his maker and maybe there's a reason to hope for a brighter future again. James Pilcher,

Portsmouth is actually better off than Pike County. There are new people in positions of authority. Now they've got a new police because they've got a new mayor. I mean, you still have the poverty. It's still one of the places in Ohio with the highest rate of overdose deaths and opioid addiction. But as for the town moving on from the corruption and all of the things were happening when Moran was there, I think they're trying to on

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