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The Phia Group's Podcast

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The Phia Group, LLC is an experienced provider of health care cost containment techniques offering comprehensive consulting services, legal expertise, plan document drafting, subrogation and overpayment recovery, claim negotiation, and plan defense designed to control costs and protect plan assets. 

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Episodes

Episode 263: Empowering Plans: P224 – CMS Spotlight: Cleaning Up Provider Data and Fixing IDR Errors

In this episode, we take a closer look at two key developments out of CMS that could reshape how provider data and dispute resolution work in practice. First, we explore the agency’s proposed National Provider Directory — an ambitious effort to clean up fragmented provider data and reduce ghost networks. Then, we break down insights from the July 2025 CMS Technical Assistance Seminar, which tackled the growing problem of errors in the Federal Independent Dispute Resolution (IDR) process — from p...

Jul 31, 202522 minEp. 263

Episode 262: Empowering Plans: P223 – Telemedicine, DPCs, and the Future of HSA-Compatible Plans under The One, Big, Beautiful Bill

Today, attorneys Kelly Dempsey and Naga Vivekanandan dive into the latest landmark healthcare-related legislation, nicknamed “The One, Big, Beautiful Bill," and how it will reshape High-Deductible Health Plans (HDHPs), telemedicine, and Direct Primary Care (DPC) arrangements. They explore the IRS rules, what's changed, and what it means for employers, employees, and plan administrators.

Jul 17, 202517 minEp. 262

Episode 261: Empowering Plans: P222 – SCOTUS Shockwaves: Analysis of June Decisions for Self-Funded Plans

In this episode of Phia’s Empowering Plans Podcast, attorneys Nicholas Bonds, Esq. and Bryan M. Dunton, Esq., break down the key Supreme Court rulings issued in June 2025 that have direct implications for self-funded group health plans and their fiduciaries. From decisions impacting coverage mandates, nationwide injunctions, and gender-affirming care, Nick and Bryan explore how these opinions reshape the regulatory landscape and discuss practical takeaways for plan administrators and TPAs. Wheth...

Jul 01, 202522 minEp. 261

Episode 257: Empowering Plans: P218 – Unreasonable Plan Fees on Trial: Cunningham v. Cornell University

In this episode, we unpack the Supreme Court’s unanimous decision in Cunningham v. Cornell University — a landmark ERISA case with major implications for retirement and health plan fiduciaries. We explain the facts behind the case, what “prohibited transactions” really mean, and why the Court's ruling on affirmative defenses matters. If your health plan pays fees to TPAs, PBMs, IDR vendors, or brokers, this episode is for you.

May 08, 202516 minEp. 257

Episode 256: Empowering Plans: P217 – The Most Exciting Two Minutes in Cost Containment

The Run for the Roses is here! Join two of Phia’s Louisville, Kentucky, employees, Corey Crigger and Cindy Merrell, as they discuss the event that takes over their city once a year! Coming on the heels of a historic weather event, Corey and Cindy discuss all things Derby. From Cindy’s experience at Dawn at the Downs to predictions for winners, this podcast has it all. Don’t be fooled, this podcast isn’t just about horse racing. Corey and Cindy also discuss pitfalls of AI use in the legal world. ...

May 02, 202529 minEp. 256

Episode 255: Empowering Plans: P216 – Why 2025 is the Year to Go Self-Funded

Our consulting team has received numerous questions in Q1 2025 about employers considering self-funding their health plans. Join Attorneys Jennifer McCormick and Kelly Dempsey as they go through what the driving factors are behind employers considering self-funding, the pros and cons of self-funding, and some of the major differences employers will encounter. If you’re considering taking the leap, take a listen first!

Apr 24, 202518 minEp. 255

Episode 254: Empowering Plans: P215 – Plan Sponsor Discretion Advised

ERISA gives plan sponsors great power and great responsibility. On this week’s podcast, attorneys Ron Peck and Nick Bonds get back to ERISA fundamentals to talk about how to really embrace fiduciary status and properly exercise discretionary authority.

Apr 11, 202533 minEp. 254

Episode 253: Empowering Plans: P214 – Unpacking Weight Loss Drugs

On this episode of the Empowering Plans podcast, attorneys Corey Crigger and Kendall Jackson discuss the hot button topic of weight loss drugs. Tune in to learn more about the latest advances in this space and the various coverage and exclusion options plans may pursue.

Mar 28, 202528 minEp. 253

Episode 252: Empowering Plans: P213 – Error 304: Good Faith Negotiation Not Found

Artificial intelligence may be changing the trajectory of the self-funded industry – but can it negotiate? In this episode of The Phia Group’s Empowering Plans podcast, attorneys Brian O’Hara and Jon Jablon break down real-life examples of AI-driven responses in the No Surprises Act’s Open Negotiations process that range from nonsensical to outright misleading, where negotiating with AI is like trying to haggle with a toaster. From missing claim numbers to automated counteroffers that make no se...

Mar 14, 202523 minEp. 252

Episode 250: Empowering Plans: P211 – Network Adequacy Under MHPAEA

Attorneys Kelly Dempsey and Bryan Dunton dive into the results of the 2024 MHPAEA Report to Congress. The EBSA and CMS have continued to improve their focus on network design and adequacy for group health plans. In this episode, Kelly and Bryan discuss how these parity problems manifest themselves in testing and what plans can do to resolve them.

Feb 14, 202519 minEp. 250

Episode 249: Empowering Plans: P210 – Mental Health Parity: New Year, New Rules, New Lawsuits

Attorneys Jen McCormick and Nick Bonds ring in the Lunar New Year by breaking down the ERIC v. HHS lawsuit in which an industry advocate challenged the federal regulators’ new Final Rules enforcing the MHPAEA and mental health parity rules. Could this case blaze a new path for challenging agency actions in a post-Chevron Doctrine world? Join us as we discuss the potential implications for group health plans.

Jan 31, 202515 minEp. 249

Episode 248: Empowering Plans: P209 – 2025 Healthcare Hot Takes

It’s a new year, and a new type of Empowering Plans podcast! In a world full of talking heads and 2-minute news cycles, hot takes have become the norm. This is true from mainstream news media to sports talk radio. Ron Peck and Corey Crigger throw their hat in the hot take ring by speculating on what some of the biggest news stories could be in 2025. From AI to RFK Jr, join Ron and Corey as they gaze into the crystal ball and make their bold predictions of what we will be talking about all year....

Jan 17, 202531 minEp. 248

Episode 247: Empowering Plans: P208 – The Evolution of the Birth Control Benefits Mandate

On today’s episode of the Empowering Plans podcast series, attorneys Kendall Jackson and Brian O’Hara discuss the Biden administration’s decision to withdraw proposed rules that would have expanded the birth control benefits mandate. Join us in our discussion of the mandate and how it has evolved throughout the Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations.

Jan 02, 20259 minEp. 247

Episode 245: Empowering Plans: P206 – Non-Preferred Carrier Fees: Incentives or Control?

In this episode of the Empowering Plans podcast, attorneys Jon Jablon and Brady Bizarro delve into the details of a recent lawsuit where BCBS of Michigan, in its capacity as a TPA, is alleged to have engaged in anticompetitive practices for charging a fee to a group that chose a stop-loss carrier other than BCBS. This case is in its infancy as of December 2024, but we expect it to have noticeable effects on the stop-loss marketplace regardless of outcome. In this episode, Jon and Brady discuss t...

Dec 05, 202417 minEp. 245

Episode 244: Empowering Plans: P205 – Lessons From a Florida IDR Case

On this episode of the Empowering Plans Podcast, attorneys Ron Peck and Nick Bonds talk through a recent Florida case addressing judicial review of IDR determinations and highlight some of the key insights and takeaways for any entity subject to the No Surprises Act.

Nov 05, 202419 minEp. 244

Episode 243: Empowering Plans: P204 – Nightmares on Self-Funded Street

Join Attorneys Corey Crigger and Kendall Jackson on this Halloween edition of the Empowering Plans Podcast. Corey and Kendall take a look at topics that send shivers down the spine of the self-funded industry. How do you protect your plan from the scary cost of gene therapies? What will the rapidly advancing AI sector mean for you and your clients? What is the best trick or treat candy? Tune in to find the answers to these questions and many more on the Empowering Plans Podcast.

Oct 25, 202427 minEp. 243

Episode 240: Empowering Plans: P201 – Diving Into the Parity Pool: MHPAEA’s Latest Updates

Regulators finally announced the long-awaited MHPAEA Final Rules on September 9, 2024. Many of these changes will directly affect group health plan design and modify the NQTL comparative analysis testing requirements - many of which will be significant for plans as they prepare for 2025. Join attorneys Jennifer McCormick and Bryan Dunton for their discussion on several critical considerations for plans as renewal season approaches.

Sep 13, 202417 minEp. 240

Episode 239: Empowering Plans: P200 – Recognizing Our Blind Spots

Dr. Marty Makary is a New York Times bestselling author, renowned Johns Hopkins surgeon, and globally recognized expert on medical research. In its most recent edition of the Empowering Plans podcast series (“Recognizing Our Blind Spots”), Dr. Makary was a special guest as he engaged in conversation with CEO Adam V. Russo about his new book, Blind Spots: When Medicine Gets It Wrong, and What It Means for Our Health , https://geni.us/blindspots . This is an episode jampacked with enlightening and...

Sep 06, 202435 minEp. 239

Episode 238: Empowering Plans: P199 – Summer Regulation Rundown

The regulators rush to finalize a suite of marquee regulations as the clock gradually runs out on the Biden administration. Even when finalized, these regulations may be vulnerable in the post-Chevron landscape. Attorneys Kelly Dempsey and Nick Bonds pick apart some of the big rules we’re looking forward to and the challenges they may face.

Aug 30, 202420 minEp. 238

Episode 237: Empowering Plans: P198 – Healthcare on the Ballot

Nick Bonds and Corey Crigger are hosting this political edition of the Empowering Plans Podcast series. With an election looming in November, Nick and Corey take a look at the policies and agendas from the Harris/Walz and Trump/Vance tickets. They discuss the impact that each administration could have on the self-funded industry and the country, in the most civil political discourse you can find. Tune in to hear what each nominee has to say about: Medical Debt, the Opioid Crisis, Public Healthca...

Aug 16, 202430 minEp. 237

Episode 235: Empowering Plans: P196 – Exploring Claims Processing Models

On this episode of the Empowering Plans Podcast, attorneys Andrew Silverio and Cindy Merrell delve into the pros and cons of the pay and chase versus pend and pay models of claims processing. They provide an in-depth discussion on the coordination of benefits and the timing of claims processing when another party may be responsible for payment.

Jul 19, 202417 minEp. 235
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