The Inquisition Reconvenes w/ Darryl Cooper

the group and talking about it. It's stuff that we've talked about and stuff that we want to get to in the future more as well. So it was a good occasion to have you on. So I'd like to read the tweet for everybody. I will link Darryl's Twitter in the show notes. I'm sure you already follow him though, So, Darryl, the other day you tweeted, America is not an outpost of Europe in the New World. Europe is dying and sadly will be overrun by Africa and the Middle East

within the century. America is a new civilization and gestation, and the form it will take is still obscure. Our natural place is as the leader of Western hemispheric civilization, and in five hundred years, when we're appointing ambassadors to the European Caliphate, that will seem obvious to everyone. And then in parentheses you add, sorry, Euros, I'm pulling for you. I'm just not optimistic. You're always welcome here though. So, Daryl,

this is something I agree with wholeheartedly. I'd like to sort of elaborate and expand on a lot of these points, but I also have to throw in here before I let you take over that I assume you got some pushback for this.

a long time. So I get it, and you know, I put it up to be inflammatory, I guess, to provoke discussion.

to this very day. You see George Floyd getting you know, getting dead in Minneapolis, and you see protests BLM, protests in London and Brussels and all these places where it makes no sense at all, just the American superculture has kind of been exported, you know to places, just like back in the sixties and seventies when black power got exported to the Caribbean and the blacks there started attacking the Indians for things that really had no you know,

cultural valance in those places just a decade or two before. You know, our cultural domination, and in the case of Germany, you know, our literal domination of their media and education system and everything is really just you know, created over the course of a couple of generations. A culture in Europe, not only a political culture, but you know, to a large extent. I mean, we've got our guys over there.

There are a lot of good people over there who are trying to fight, but uh, you know, the society itself that that really just doesn't have the the wherewithal to resist their own their their own suicide, you know. And I think that, you know, again, even if the two World Wars had gone the way they had, if America had gone home after the Second World War, and you know, the Soviet Union hadn't rolled over the place obviously, then I think Europe would probably be fine. But it's

that multiple generations of indoctrination and just cultural osmosis. I mean, the probably the clearest and starkest example of this, uh you know, of this process. It's just the fact that all of the countries that were behind the Iron Curtain, you know, living under communist internationalism, and you know, just they all have a sense of identity that they are

still willing to hold on to and defend. And sure, part of it is probably because they were living under the subjugation of the Soviet Union for a while and so they had a more recent nationalist outburst that sort of you know that still lingers. But really I think it's largely that they were protected from the American cultural contamination.

And when you look at just the line of demarcation in Europe in terms of the countries that are willing and able to defend themselves and those that aren't, I mean, it is the Iron Curtain, you know.

like it's the whole thing. I mean, I don't even know where to start with these people, because again, they're they're so out of touch with the reality of things, and that's why you know, well.

is resolved in my opinion for the worst. But the you know that was the immediate catalyst was returning to serve and permanently tying down the Russian armed forces on

their own frontier. But more broadly, you know, it was an avenue of ingress to uh, you know, preclude and destroy the Burgening complex and independence between Europe and the Russian Federation, because that's the only path the European livration, you know, And just an example of what I was talking about, the conceptual literacy of the supposed right wing this or otherwise, almost nobody talks about this. They don't

know what they're talking about. They have no idea of the actual catalyzing variables with respect to the you know, zionis aggression against the Russian Federation. They have no idea what Merkele was trying to accomplish with, you know what was actually a pretty masterful.

situation is. But the war against the Russian Federation is a part of the continuing racial war against Europe, the goal of which is the literal annihilation of Europe, just as uh, you know it always has been. And uh, that was the raison I'm dead for the Second World War.

That was that was the reason for the occupation. Everything that afflicts Europe today is approximately caused by the social engineering regime, which is, was, and is tailored as a racial assault on Europe qua Europe, the purpose of which is to eradicate it as an identitarian and historical and political phenomenon. And anybody doesn't see this isn't in the game. They're monumentally ignorant.

But the the problem is twofold. The problem is, you know, I mean, we're uh, there's the there's a practical issue of you know, for the Europeans, they're they're they're they're at a disadvantage that we are not, you know, and they're availed to a they're they're availed to a penal system that can quite literally incarcerate them without any resort

to even superficial due process. But also, and the more deeper problem is you can't and I mean I cited Gusty Spence the other week when I was talking when

I was on the panel for the Portland event. You know, you if there's not a conceptual grounding of your cadre or actual or potential, you're pissing into the wind, and I can I can count that number of guys on one hand who have any kind of profile at all in in in terms of potential European vanguard, because the these these people are completely fucked up in terms of their conceptual orientation. They don't know what the fuck is

going on. You know, it's a real problem. But that's that those are my thoughts, kind of add a glance.

starting to think differently. But still, when you look at any kind of populist movement, any kind of you know, anyone saying the only way you're going to get any real change for you is through Trump, well, these people have lost They don't understand exactly they don't understand what Thomas is talking about with the last eighty years brought to us. They are they're bringing a band you know, they're they're bringing a band aid to a.

my income. I maybe get fired from you know, I may get fired from the you know, from Salem Media or Jailly Wire or something like that. So there are a lot of people, I mean, I can I'm not gonna name names, but I can name the names of a couple people who know for a fact the spirit of what of what is taking this over, but they they will not say it because it's gonna it's going to affect their income. So yes, I have to deal with that.

above board. There's nothing secret about it, you know, I mean, that's it's that's that's basic as hell too perceive things that way anyway. But in the case at Bar, it's literally the opposite of how it's presented.

the financial market for about ten years. You took five to six thousand private companies split private and public companies split between Europe and the United States, and you turned them into less than five hundred. Right, all of these boards got folded in on each other. None of these boards. Actually people that sit on these boards aren't even the shareholders themselves, right, They're an accountant or an attorney that

represents the shareholder. Right. So the person that owns these controlling stakes and these interests can't even be bothered to actually vote their shares. It's all done by proxy. So these people live detached lives from you know, capital, and you kind of see this merger of both the American I mean, you can call them American, but whatever, the American and European elites, right where like America's capital class has viewed itself as the enemy of American people, the

exact same thing in Europe. And what's basically happened after World War Two. I mean, we talk about the Nuremberg regime, but we don't ever really get a chance to talk about is the Nurmberg financial regime. Say something miraculous happened, it's the it's the Keynesian regime, well kind of.

effectively how our banks print money. Here, nine tenths of the dollars exists overseas, printed by overseas banks, and what that's effectively given these people is infinite money to create a really a bureaucratic transnational state to where like to what I think is very funny because often you say like it's globalism versus the resistance, and in a way, I think globalism is dying. But in another way, I

think you're right. Right, So when Darryl points out that America has quite is basically distinct different and also the continuation of European culture, you've basically seen a financial bifurcation, right. So basically what has been the Nuremberg regime, both political and financial, has now separated itself from the United States. Right.

So for I don't want to get into like sofur or libor, but in twenty nineteen, the euro dollar market, which is this offshore money printing dollar printing machine that exists, was effectively cut off from the United States. Right, So basically your money that those dollar bills that you printed over there aren't allowed to come here anymore. And it was a big, huge deal. Like they tried to they

whipped up fake insider trading scandals against Jerome Powell. They did everything to try and I mean Nancy, sorry, Kamala Harris and John McCain high fived on the Senate floor when they filibuster the introduction of the US introducing its own interest rates that only US money has been introduced or it can be indexed to like Nancy Pelosi adjourned Congress six months early to not reappoint Jerome Powell and introduce this system. So basically what we're seeing is a

financial fight that mirrors the fight that you're talking about. Well, yeah, the conflict diet is identical to the one that Daryl lays out. There's basically global capital is doing what you guys are talking about. But unbeknownst to anyone else.

they're not they're not synonymous and that's important. And the reason why I say it's the Keynes regime is because even when even when America, even when neoliberalism became uh yass's based in Chicago school economics, which is qualified monitorism, even when that became the consensus, you know, in like nineteen eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, there's still keys and assumptions that absolutely code and color decision making with regards to national economic policy.

and WOI competent and dependence is facilitated by that. This is just the reality, you know, And unless there is some sort of truly punctuated crisis event where the grid went down on planetary scale. This is inevitable, it's not gonna it's you know that that's the new reality. Politically, Yeah, what's There's the new reality is that devolved kind of localism And that's what this is a perfect convergence of circumstances that you know, advantages the resistance, including us.

Everyone is planning on capital controls coming down within the next two years, so money will not be able to leave Europe. Specifically, it's the Europeans that are pushing this, or the European elite class that are pushing it. China seems to be on board. So we're going to see digital, We're going to see an information globalism, to which I think is just going to accelerate. To your point, but I think capital for the first time is going to

not be able to move freely. This is why you see a lot of a lot of money fleeing, right, because basically a lot of money this is another big driver of the inflation that we're seeing. It's not so much just money printing, its flight capital.

immediately afterwards. And not only did we do war, but we did war on a scale that nobody ever had done war before. Unfortunately it was against our own race, but in our effort to rebuild Europe, to try and fight communism. We didn't give them gold, and we didn't print money to give them. We gave them the We gave one bank, it was supposed to be the Bank of England right the ability to lend money in dollars.

But some funny enough, some Epstein like shit happened, and somehow that right to print money got given to a private UK bank. It's called Midlands Trust Bank, owned by of course the usual suspects, but within basically ten years being able to lend at five percent when every other bank on the British Isles is forced to lend at fifteen to twenty percent the actual reflective cost of capital. Right,

you basically had a license to print money. And within ten years this Midlands Trust Bank had either controlling interest through convertible notes, so bonds is in like, I won't show up on the cap table if you try and see who owns what shares because I own bonds that I can flip into shares whenever I want to. It's

a very stealthy way of controlling something. Or they just owned the shares outright to where this bank that no one had ever fucking heard of, effectively rolled up the entire UK financial system in less than ten years and then moved on to the continent. So by the time I'm the seventies rolled up this, you know, magic dollar printer had given a small group of people infinite control

over the European capital base. So yeah, it's that's why that's why I said it's kind of like a Nuremberg financial regime, because it got rolled up it got rolled out at the same time.

I said, they're okay, are arguably arguably ethical. Uh, liberalism like Enlightenment liberalism is economic fe a He's keys, okay, But that's it's got it's got to be distinguished from it's got to be distinguished from the ideological program that was enshrined at the by the internetional militaries for funeral and and everything they're in.

are backwards. Well, he diagnoses the same. And you mentioned once, that mentioned several times that Hitler in his comments to the Germans is like basically the best of Europe went to this place in that place had infinity resources.

lost cause historians. What underlay the war between the states in dialectical and historical terms, was, you know, whether whether there was going to continue to be this uh, you know, uh Anglo Celtic kind of cavalier element that viewed themselves as uh, that viewed their lineage as you know high you know, in highly racial terms and in deeply historical terms, and specifically as a population whose political understanding was forged

by the War three Kingdoms. And then moving forward, we're going to guide the country's destiny with an understanding that you know, they they were the heirs to you know, European and in Indo Areyan cultural destiny.

old continents and to Britain, you know. And obviously that viewpoint one out in terms of power, political ambition, and the trajectory therein I think, yeah, Americans are we are the standard bearers of what remains of Western civilization. But the days where it would have been possible to capture the power apparatus of a superpower and realize that in you know, in terms of practice on the world stage, like that's over with, you know, that belongs to the

twentieth century. So, I mean, that's my view of it. But we're so we're sort of talking about two different things within a the the common nexus of a of subject matter. You know, that's the sort answer. I realized that's not fatuely short, but it's a huge freaking question.

simply ethnic. I think I just think that's kind of inevitable, right, I mean, you arrive on this gigantic continent and there's a bunch of European powers who were all in competition for it, and you know, the people who came here from the British Isles had a sense of their own historical destiny that had continuity going back into the past.

But as we resorted to mass immigration, wave after wave, generation after generation from first all over Europe and now course the rest of the world, it's sort of induced a kind of amnesia, permanent amnesia in America, where we don't have this long term sense of our past, going back into our European past, a long term sense of just our historical destiny. It's rooted in the past. It's something that you know, a lot of a lot of people have commented on that America kind of lives in

an eternal present. And this wasn't true for everybody. For all of American history. Even after the waves of immigrants started rolling in, you still had this Anglo leadership class that was in control of, you know, very important institutions that it was using to select and integrate new members from these immigrants groups that were coming in and sort of work them into the dough. But by the time you get up to the sixties and seventies, you know that that class really kind of gave up the ghost.

And whether that happened just due to you know, a lack of talent after a certain generation, or whether it was just they simply got swamped by the hyper development of of of the managerial system in America, you know, and and that the bureaucracy and the managerial system sort of became self aware and shoved aside this traditional leadership class that really had a sense of personal proprietorship over

over the country and its future. You know, I think, uh, I mean, yeah, I don't even know who the who the Rockefellers or Harriman's or any of those people would even would even be these days.

you had Henry Ford, you had his arch nemesis. Like these these men committed you know, not just corporate espionage, but corporate you know, I don't know what you'd call it.

But these men burnt each other's factories down, and they said if they have they all each said, you know, if I ever encounter so and So, you know C. K. Rank, it would be like Fiver encounter you know Henry I, you know, I'll shoot him or this, that and the third Like these men hated each other, but C. K. Rinkin and Henry Ford, right, they teamed up Iree and Pierre DuPont. And you had Nelson and John Junior Rockefeller and their arch nemesis at the time, one Huey P. Long.

You had Al Smith, who was the president of the Democratic Party and the previous run up basically the previous presidential candidate prior to Roosevelt, and the head of the Republican Party, all on this organization called the American Liberty League.

And Al Al Smith's speech to the American Liberty League you can still find and it basically lays out the conflict diad and he is very very angry because he well he says specifically, he's like, you know, we put mister Roosevelt into office thinking we were going to get a democratic candidate, and what we didn't see is the he says Eastern European Bolsheviks. But I think we all

know what he means. That he brought in he put he basically took none of the advisors that he was, none of the cabinet members that he had all made deals to bring in and replace them all with Eastern European Bolsheviks. And these these men are scared, like if you read if you read that that speech, they're terrified.

they probably would have successfully got him out. After Pearl Harbor.

fault that these men make excellent lawyers. There some something equally idiotic.

whole bunch of financial securities departments and agencies. Right, So you had the creation of the sec you had the creation of the Financial Crimes Division out of the Department of Justice, and these organizations were specifically to go after Anglo power. Oh yeah, you guys immediately, yep, exactly, the.

a bunch of executive organizations that started targeting their power centers. Right. So, you had the creation of the SEC, you had the creation of of FINSEN, and I can't remember the other there's like two or three other financial adjacent or basically

financial focused regulatory agencies. And I mean, to Daryl's point earlier, like JP Morgan didn't hire its first Jew to nineteen eighty nine, right, Right, Like the Jews were kept out of banking, they were allowed to do securities trading, right, So this is why speculator has such a negative connotation in America. Right, banking was specifically a Anglo institution, and

they immediately went after that. Right, So you had the introduction of Glass Stiegel, which basically stripped the you know, banking institutions of a majority of their power and handed it over to the speculators. So firms like J Goldman Sachs, which were irrelevant, tiny little shops until the FDR regime went Hammer and tongs at JP Morgan Chase sorry, JP Morgan b and wine Melon and Standard Charter. Right, so

that was the you know. Then immediately after that they went after the oil companies right and tried breaking them up. Standard Oil and the Rockefellers held on longer than anybody else. They refused to acknowledge. They viewed the US entry to war in Europe as illegitimate. Right, they refused all the way throughout the war to stop selling oil to Germany. They're like, this war is ridiculous, this war is criminal.

We want no part of it. I mean, I think Pete, on your show, you and I went through the polling statistics of what Americans thought of the war in Europe at the time, as like men were landing in D Day, seventy percent of the country wanted nothing to do with it, and something like seventy five percent of the men you know, landing in D Day had absolutely no idea why the

fact that they were there. So it was kind of just an immediate right turn right into war into it, and by the time the war was over, Anglo power was dead.

nineteen hundreds. So like if you worked on let's say you were John Pierpont Morgan's mechanic and you worked, you know, for the family for ten or fifteen years, and some horrible accident befell you and you're either no longer able to work or you passed away. The Morgans and they did this three or four times, but they were not the only American elite family that would, you know, repeatedly

do this. They would basically take in your sons and they would put them into the same schools that their children were in, and they would use their networks to get you the same jobs that their children would get. And actually the guy that took over from Jack Morgan, Pierpont's son, was a man by the name of Tom

was it Tom Lamont? Tom Lamont was the son of a basically a house employee of the Morgan house that that passed away, and these men like they are suddenly they suddenly find themselves richer than anybody had ever been before. And I would imagine it's an extremely disorienting, you know, position to find yourself in where you're richer than the federal government. Like, what the fuck do you even do with that? Real quick, they turned back to basically, real quick, the Middle Ages.

patriarchal sense of the American super rich. In that period of time, you have like Andrew Carnegie built thirty six hundred public libraries across the country in every town in America, and nobody had even heard of a fucking public library before. But he just felt it was your duty or sorry,

you're right as an American to have infinite knowledge. Like John D. Rockefeller built almost three thousand churches complete with schools, rectories, and child care facilities in every town and city in America. Like John Pierpont Morgan bailed out the federal government. I literally leveraged everything he owned. If the federal government would have faltered, he would have literally been homeless, because he's like,

America gave me everything I have. And you know, frankly, you're an idiot if you you know you bet against America. He actually kidnapped four other heads of speculator houses, right, you know, and lured them onto his boat, and I basically told them, you know, once they were past swimming distance from the DOC said, I'm it's my intent to

bail out the government of the United States. This morning, I took out lines of credit from each one of your institutions, so basically, each one of your banks gave me double my money back in credit, and I intend to use this money to bail out the American government. But I'm ten percent short. So either you contribute to that other ten percent, or I use the credit that you all gave me this morning to bankrupt you, and by the time I take you back to shore, all

of you will be out of business. And then all that money I borrowed, I now owe to nobody. So I guess it's mine. And what do you know, Like, you know, Jacob shiff got a sudden urge of patriotism and helped bail out the country. But it's just something that we completely don't see from our rich men today. It's it's it's patriotism when it's convenient to help me

get my objectives done. But it's not a it's not a spiritual sense of you know, who they are, what their duty is, why they have this wealth.

you were Andrew Carnegie himself or something like. You know, even the guys who were the wealthiest men in America, their lives weren't, you know, inconceivably different than that of middle class people that all began changing in earnest in the nineties. You know, the lives of a guy like Peter Thiel, you know, compared to a dude who's a you know, like a branch manager at bank one. It's

it's it's it's it's completely insane. It's like comparing the life of a space alien who it can traverse light years, so that like an African bushman who hasn't even invented a slingshot yet, you know, like these people live in literally different worlds, you know, and that would be a difficult psychological paradigm to reconcile even if there was a moral consensus, and there wasn't, you know, this perverse situation where a hostile elite who views the majority as as

their ethno sectarian enemy, you know, And that's that's actually an important point. You know, you can't if your class of managers, you know, uh are our billionaires who every week travel to different countries on board their private jet. You know, I mean, how could they find common uh empathy with anybody but you know, their own cast, you know, just even if they desire to curate such things, which obviously they don't, I think it would probably be insurmountable.

That was just something I thought of as you guys were discussing this subject.

kind of conditions that are really not replicable. And you know, I think about I guess a lot of people kind of have learned to take for granted over the last eighty years in the United States, these these very unnatural economic and global political conditions where you know, the entire planet had just been destroyed, its industrial base was destroyed. We had the only one that was left standing. We had the people, the resources, and the industrial base to

rebuild the entire planet. And so, as you said earlier, like we go through this great war and don't face this period of rampant inflation or deflation afterwards, the entire world needed American capital, labor, resources, et cetera. And it really pushed us into this just stratospheric economic place where that over time people learned to kind of take for

granted as part of the natural order of things. And what the period we're in now and have been in since maybe the mid two thousands, when maybe the late two thousands, when Russia and China started to really flex and push back on the world stage, is a return to the mean, a turn a return to more natural like multipolar conditions under which a lot of these institutions and just the ways we operate can't really function. You know, in the nineteen nineties you had this you know, to

your point. You go Charles Murray talks about this too. You go back to the mid twentieth century, and you know, not only did elites have this sense of no bless oblized, not only were their lives not so radically different from the people that work for them, but they were also much more locally oriented.

to them, you know. But then over time, as you go through that process, as Stormy mentioned earlier, where these thousands of companies become a few hundred companies, all of those elites shifted to you know, New York, even if they didn't physically necessarily go there, like that's where there, that's where their people were, New York, d C. Maybe LA A few like megalopolises that absorbed all of those people, and all of that sense of localism really went away.

And when you get into the post Cold War period and things, you know, start to start to become not just scaled up at at a national level, but at a global level. You saw that on a on the next you know, the next level up where those people who had kind of left behind loyalty for Detroit, Michigan, for New York City have now even left behind loyalty for New York City for you know, just the global

sort of class that they're a part of. And so but I think that, you know, one of the things that happened is that the elites really outran the natural order of things in globalization during that period, so that they got way far out in front in terms of their own sense of identity and how their interests are allocated, way out ahead of where the world itself actually was.

Because you know, Thomas talked about how with just global telecommunications, just all the different technological and political changes, globalization to a certain degree and global integration to a degree was inevitable. But you know, we got to a point where in the post World War period, this hyper globalization that we that we really saw and that the elites came to really identify themselves with, was a result of American unipolarity.

And even if you take away something like just you know, you have a few other major powers that can control what goes on in their own region, control the sea lanes in their own region, all of those kind of things. The global economic system is has is not in a place where it is prepared to account for that, and so yeah, go ahead.

would remain intact until full nuclear disarmament was realized. There'd be this gradual you know, stripping away of the command economy, you know, and uh, the integration of the Soviet economy into world markets, you know, in a way that wouldn't cause punctuated disturbances that tended towards the actual crisis level, you know. And they had something you know, with Goruschev and shivit Nards, you know, they had an understanding there.

The neocons guy was Yelston, and Yelton completely nuked the possibility of that being realized, you know, and this kind of this kind of mass looting operation.

was you know, nakedly tailored to facilitate Zionist interests. You know, the the ultimate goal was to break Russia at the Soviet Union and the constituent elements, you know, like a greater Ukraine, you know, like a kind of commissary at moscown almost like the you know, the the Third Reich agin in geographic terms, and then like a Soviet Far East probably uh, you know, some of which would be conceded proceeded to the PRC, you know, and uh, this

kind of looting the planet at mass scale. Well at the same time, uh, you know, socially engineering populations by aggressive ethnic cleansing and forced mixing.

Anglophone South African, you know. I mean he's like a man without a country like within this you know, overcast of managers. I got to raise up in a few minutes, but I still got a few minutes.

project that was more united. You go up to the nineteen sixties and you have you know, you see it really starkly with guys like John Lindsay, very much like a even though I think he was kind of born upper middle class, not really like a wasp elite. He really, you know, sort of became became the symbol of the

wasp elite during that period. And you see from people like him this real contempt for a lot of the Catholic people living in the big cities who are essentially resisting integration, you know, resisting giving up their local uh you know, stubborn attachments and and and allowing themselves to

be melted into a large, theoretically more efficient system. And now you see the same thing except on a global scale, where people are looking at their own populations that are resisting globalism in the same way that you know, that's sort of like a long tradition.

it's not to say that like demographics aren't consideration. And look, I can tell you firsthand what it's like to uh you know, be uh to receive a you know, the negative consequences of things like the you know, Biden's version of the Murial boat lift where he dropped you know, like ten thousand filoni is fin of.

terms of the inner play those things. But I know only people are making fun of me about like abruptly exiting. So I'm sorry to live leptic cliche that stuff, but I'm going to do exactly that. But I wish I didn't have to. But I got a busy day and then later today I got dinner plans and stuff. So thanks for including me, fellas. Uh, I really appreciate that. I'm very humbled and.

minorities that do live among us. You know, And with that tweet, when I say that, like we need to embrace our role as the leader of a Western hemispheric civilization, I mean, it's really kind of ridiculous that we over the years have tolerated a half failed state on our southern border, and that it's a state that you know, we have like good relations with, like you know, and all there's no hot like like outward hostility there or anything.

But like, we we need the Western hemisphere, every country

in it, to look at us as their leader. And part of doing that is that you know, our nationalist core in the United States itself has got to take on a leadership role with respect to these civilized minorities who live here with us in this country, you know, And it can't just be like a you know, a matter of racial purity or any of those things, because the bottom line is, I mean, unless there is some just completely un foreseeable transformation that would probably create a

catastrophe with with uh, you know, outcome that that that can't be predicted. You know, demographics are going to continue to trend in the direction they're trending, at least to a certain point where, you know, where where they stabilize, and that doesn't look like that's going to happen anytime soon.

That's the world we have to live in. And uh sort of going into a fortress mode of racial purity rather than recognizing that, you know, uh, there are a lot of Latinos, there's a lot of civilized people in this country who just want to live regular lives and would be perfectly willing to accept the leadership of people

who know how to make that happen. I think is important, you know, And I think that you know, because it's very easy to get to get lost and especially for somebody like me, probably all of us, to get lost in the history of the whole thing and thinking about, like, you know, just what's been lost, all the nostalgia, all these kind of like larger not abstract but like semi abstract ways of looking at the whole situation and forgetting the fact that, you know, the the real important part

here is that our grandkids are still living in a country where you know, they don't get kidnapped when they walk down the street, or it's just a functional country, you know, And there are people out there who aren't necessarily going to get on board with you know, some white racial purity test that that can help with that, you know, and are willing to accept leadership. And so that's part of what I meant by that tweet.

country with a support network already in place. Right, they have no choice, not no choice, but they are very very excited about culturally integrating because they are integrating at the most core level a person can be integrated to anything, right is the integration of man and wife into that singular human being. Also, it clears away a lot of

political problems. Right. So, right now you have a whole bunch of very wound up, left eoyed women and I think basically telling them like, oh no, immigration is now actually your choice. You just have to marry them, like you can bring in whoever you want, but you have to love them, and you have to love them forever. The other thing is you can probably draw a very clear demarcation line between those that come to live here

by where they keep their money. Right, there are individuals like a lot of the Latino individuals that you talk about, they're not sending money back home to Mexico. Right, They're building their future where they see their future as being right. But then you need to also, you know, well it just by making that one distinction draws a clear contrast between the people that view this as an economic zone for extracting. Like I mean, even guys like Vivek Ramaswami,

the the healthcare stock fraudster. His parents had no problem coming to America and having him and getting set up in lovely sinecure positions. So American PhDs don't get paid anything. But they've been your twenty years. Their son got to make five hundred million dollars in America and they still don't want to become US citizens. They're sending all their money back home to India, building nice little I mean, I hate to point him out and make it, actually I don't. I hate that man. I think he is

kind of the epitome of what we're seeing. But there is a clear line between who sends money out of the country to where those people see their home actually being. And the amount of money that leaves this country is staggering, right. We're talking half a trillion dollars at a clip, right, h fisk. I mean literally half of the almost half of the sorry, almost more than half of the entire Defense Department's budget leaves this country in remittances, all right.

So that means money is earned here, and it's a money that could have been given to somebody that actually lives here. And you know is from here, it's given to somebody else, and that money doesn't stay in the economy. And this is kind of the lie about you know, immigration being a boost to GDP, which is the lie that a lot of our elites are told, right, because if GDP backward dates, the sovereign debt begins to quickly lose value, which accelerates rapidly and will end the nation

in sovereign debt default really fucking quickly. So it's not just that they only care about line goes up, it's that they can only care about line goes up because how much debt all of these nations are in. But there's also a foreign policy element. There is a I can pull it up on my phone, but there's a speech that Prime Minister Modi is given giving to his BNP party talking about how and it's actually really funny because he basically says, we're going to do what the

Jews do for Israel. We are going to put as many individuals into America, into these Western countries as possible, and those people will then lobby for India's interests and the Modi government is basically helped facilitate you know, you actually have. You know, it's not just these people filling out frauds in H one B applications. It's the fucking Indian government doing it. It's the Chinese government doing it.

And I mean every time, I mean, I'm sure it's really embarrassing to the people at the DoD, but every time we catch somebody selling secrets, their name is always like Ching Chong Lee. Actually, I remember one of the very first things I heard you do was a episode you did with Jocko and this is you're the only other person at that time that I had heard talk about the faction in the US military slash intelligence communities, and like, these men are not like this is not

a monolith. These people are often you know, have diametrically opposed goals. But in that episode you talked about basically the racial sensitivity training that was somehow also you know, be on the lookout for people, you know, stealing intelligence information, but also don't be racist at the same time, so

you'd have to parse those people out too. I don't know how you go about doing that bit, because it seems that a lot of the people that are selling US intelligence and US sensitive intellectual property seem to be second generation. You see the problem in the UK a lot. It's not the first generation Arabs that are the hyper extreme ones. It's the second and third generation that are

you know, full on isis in the streets. So it's the ones that are actually born here that are trying to tear the country down, which is I don't know how to how I how to go about squaring that circle.

up there and you know, trashed the inner cities. I mean it was to a degree they were you know, rowdy, illiterate Southerners for the most part, you know, who were in the big city for the first time. So there was an element of that, But it wasn't until you got up to the nineteen sixties when that first generation's

kids began to turn into grown men. Eighteen nineteen twenty year old kids or men who you know, they had carried a lot more resentment, a lot more of an identity crisis, a lot more of all these things that they had to compensate for than their parents ever did. And you see it in the US. Like I knew when I lived down in SoCal, I knew a lot of people who worked in education in LA and Orange County.

So I used to I used to date a woman who was a vice principal down there, and you know, she would point out to me that, you know, they like the America is a nation of immigrants. People. They love to point to statistics that show that American citizens, uh, you know, have a higher crime rate than immigrants. Right, I've never like studied that deeply. I'm willing to believe it, Like I'm willing to believe that that first generation of immigrants comes in. But look at their kids. It's a

totally different story. You know, the people in education that I would be talking to down there, they would say that they have these parents. You know, dad works in a field, mom works cleaning up a hotel. They're both like basically just hard working, normal Catholic people and they're coming to the vice principal, coming to the school administration saying, I don't know what to do with my kids, Like they all want to be gangbangers, they all want to

be this want to be that. You know, they're out flying a Mexican flag at a protest like you told them not to go to. You know, it's very much that second generation that was raised up in American culture, and you have to attribute part of it to American culture and media, but I think there's also just a more natural element where you know, there's an identity crisis that kind of takes place among people like that, especially when you know the the woman that I dated, it

was the vice principal. She was a Palestinian woman Arab, and you know, she grew up just like a lot of the Palestinian just Arab immigrants at the time before they made their money and moved down to you know, nicer parts of Orange County and stuff. She lived down in Southgate in South LA and basically Latino community, Latino black Arab community. And when she was a kid, and you know, one of the things that they will tell

you and Latinas will tell you the same thing. You know, if they don't think that, you know, they're they're in a conversation where it's going to be, you know, heard the wrong way. I guess is they'll tell you that, you know, in their communities, being with a white guy is like a status symbol, and that's something that creates a great deal of resentment among you know, the the other women as well, especially the men. You know, you saw this very much in the like Black Power movement

in nineteen sixties. Because to this day, you know, you if you if you go to I've seen the numbers before. But it's not something they study or published very often, but they but they have. And the numbers of black women who go to university, graduate with a four year degree who end up marrying black men is very low. You know, a huge number of them end up marrying into the white community, essentially leaving the black community behind.

And you know that kind of thing. It creates resentment within communities, you know, and and it creates a sort of identity crisis among the next generation that comes up. It's trying to figure out who and what they are. And you know, in a country like China, I mean, I imagine if any of us were to go over to China, they would probably have a dedicated agent tracking our every movement,

listening to our phone calls. They would know every single thing we did in that country, and so it's much much much harder for us to take advantage of any kind of you know, any kind of fissures or cracks that might exist in a society like that, whereas over here in our open society.

of gambling debt. But all like nine out of the ten, we're all Chinese Americans who were spying for China, Jewish Americans spying for Israel, just all of them. And that was when I raise my hand and asked the question, and they told me, just we don't. You were instructed not to consider that as part of the information that you're you know that you're looking at and that's a that's a difficult thing in the United States that a lot of other countries just don't have.

talks about the absolute apocalypse of black business. That happens like if you were you had black banks, you had black grocery stores, credit unions, black insurance companies, black energy companies, and the second the day after integration, you basically told the black community, much like you were talking about with

with uh, you know who they're trying to date. If you give a black the choice between, hey, do you want to put your money in a black bank or a white bank, what do you think he's going to do? And we bankrupted black business literally overnight.

To his his tweet about you know what he sees happening to Europe, I mean, I think this is one of the reasons why Eric Prince talks so much about Africa now, is if you don't do something about Africa, and I mean, I know people have gone in there and oh, we've tried to civilize them and are yeah, okay, fine, don't try to turn them into white people. Figure out what's best for them, how something works for them, and then stay there until you can produce people who can

actually reproduce it. But if you don't do something about them too, they're just going to overtake Europe. And if they overtake Europe, they're going to come here. So I mean, this is I know white people, you know, our guys don't want to hear this, mostly because they don't want to do anything. They just want to post on Twitter and they want to listen to podcasts. Thank you for

listening to podcasts. I appreciate it, but maybe you really have to start doing something too, and you have to start thinking about ways that the future going forward for all peoples. Because you can say, we just have to figure out how to what's best for us and take care of ourselves, but the actually that army is going to come to you, and it's just a matter of are you going to be able to hold the army off?

Or you go, what's there's a future that entails doing stuff And it doesn't seem like we can do stuff now because we're under occupation and everything. But if you if we don't start acting now, then there really is no future. There's the future is going to be very very isolated into different spots and yeah, you're waiting for somebody to just come and you know, overrun you. And now maybe we can develop technology that if an army shows up, we can vaporize them. But okay, who's doing that?

Who's who's doing it? Or are you doing that little that research in your community of two thousand people.

at all. Right, Like, I'm not a navy guy, but you can pretty much take the average white kid and teach him how to run a nuclear reactor ten thousand feet underwater in about two years, a little less than two years. So there's really nothing that I think our guys can't learn in a relatively small amount of time. They've just been excluded from these opportunities. I think colonialism solves all this, and I mean, really I do. I

know mister Prince probably agrees with that. But if you go to India, I don't recommend you do, especially not now. You ask a majority of the Indians over fifty you know what political reality they want, and they will tell you full throatedly that they want the brit They wish the British would come back. You could say the exact same thing for Africa, right almost. I mean even in South Africa, right where it's politically you know, it's bad

politically to say something like this. But I think we need to get over our squeamishness that leadership is a hands on thing, right, It's a way. You know, you're not going to teach you know, the Guatemalan about American leadership unless you're doing it, you know, where he can see it, right, where he can see the benefit of

your way of doing things versus not it. Also, I mean, there's we can either fight over the same pie and then we have to be exclusionary to be like, Okay, well you're not part of this group of white young men that have been excluded from the professional environment, so we need to remove you and we need to put these guys back in. That'll be really, really difficult. But if you just expand the pie, you solve a lot

of problems at once. But the US would have to get over this, like colonialism is bad thing because if you look at what happened to the quality of lives of these people, the worst thing that ever happened to them was that we left.

would have tried it just a few years ago. But the Trump administration, we've got some We've got some very smart guys who are like young guys who are in the administration like doing work. You know, they're not necessarily the ones saying yes or no, but the ones who are who are putting out. We've got some solid guys

in there, a lot of them working for VANCE. But but but throughout the administration and State Department other places, and what the Trump administration did was set up an agency that essentially provides political risk insurance for somebody who's willing to go in and try to do something like purchase a you know, a cobalt mining plant in uh in the Congo and doing it in ways where they're trying to like very actively, like very consciously trying to

develop an economic elite in that country. That is somebody that are people that we can work with and have goals that we consider you know, worthy of just not not only their country, but in our own interests as well. You know. The problem, of course, like for for a long time, is that this type of economic colonialism has taken the form of, you know, we're doing it so that you legalize public butt sex, you know, and that's something that thankfully for the moment, you know, for the

time being, has been put aside. The headwinds that people like that are facing, though, are that you know, like like you ask, okay, the people in power, they get accused all the time of being just in it for money, They're selling their souls all this kind of stuff. Wouldn't like you would think if it were just like a straightforward version of that, that they would have a problem with a half a trillion dollars leaving the country every

year in remittances. But they don't. And the reason is that there is there are a lot of these people who are very much in the mode of just the party's ending. Soon, steal the fucking silverware and get out, you know, and and take the take the nice door knobs off, and all the nice faucets and just get the hell out. And you know, just as a specific example, of that. I have this from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet

level source. I can't go further than that. Right now, I'm working on how to, you know, talking to a few people about how to make it more detailed in public. But that, Susie Wilds, the Chief of Staff, is just straight up, very openly like Tammany Hall style. Anybody that wants to talk to the president has got to make a forty thousand dollars dollar donation to her consulting company per month or two hundred thousand dollars per year. And it's just very very briefcase under the cash style like

nineteenth century like open corruption, you know. And again that is from an absolutely unimpeachable cabinet level source. And there's a lot of people who are like that. And so we have like a lot of good guys who are trying to advance these goals in the administration, but they got to deal with people like that, you know, you got to deal with I know a guy who was at dinner with Tom home one on one and no, no,

I'm sorry he was. He was at dinner with a Texas sheriff who had who knows Tom Holman very well and had worked with his people on a big operation down there recently, and he was saying that Tom said that, you know, this is these are the kind of things that just make our system very difficult to work around.

That Christy Nome wants to run for president in twenty twenty eight, and so she's actually slow rolling a lot of the attempts to engage in mass deportations any of these things that would look like, you know, either massive successes for people like Vance, who's you know, closer to closer to the president and sort of the obvious successor, but also look at the by the Republican and other people whose support that she's going to want as her

you know, sort of going along with this barbaric practice

and blah blah blah. So she's like actively as the head of DHS, actively stonewalling the attempts to you know, to engage in the deportation process and and home, and very often is having to find ways to do it where they can just basically go around the DHS infrastructure, you know, like the the one in particular where in Texas that I'm talking about, Like he had to go actually and work with a lower level guy at the FBI and use their resources to go down and round

up a bunch of these people because it was a small enough number that they could handle it with local, local resources and some help from the FBI, without having to run it all the way up to the DHS flag pole. And so these are the kind of things

that make it very, very difficult. But there are people in there who understand what you're saying, that you know, colonial like a benevolent colonialism, you know, a sort of a sort of you know, almost almost Marshall Plan for the Western hemisphere, you know, idea that like, you know, you can you can put one hundred foot wall up lined with machine guns. You know, Israel tried that and they still get through from time to time, and it's

still a problem for them. And as long as uh, you know, we have economic policies and just governmental and social systems in Latin America that are completely fucked, it's just it's it's gonna be a permanent problem and the only way to really permanently fix it. Like, I don't know what the numbers are of people fleeing El Salvador for the United States right now, but I imagine they're a hell of a lot lower than they used to be,

you know. And uh, if you could get twenty more bouquels and you know, actually have some governments and uh that that that were not just you know, systematic looting operations basically in these countries, then you know, you could stem the tide a bit that way. And and and I think that you know, in a way, yeah, like if Africa takes over Europe, they're eventually coming here is kind of a thing. But you know, obviously you have

the oceans between us. But also I think it's a lot easier for people, you know, if we were much more integrated and seen as a natural leader of the Western head hemisphere, as the protector of the Western hemisphere, and seen that way by the other countries you know that are here with us, it's a lot easier for your average American sort of normy Christian type to justify

and rationalize to themselves. Uh, keeping people from you know, from over the oceans, from coming across the oceans and coming in here, en Moss and the same type of numbers that we've dealt with from Latin America. They can they can justify that to themselves, especially if they can frame it in terms of protecting the Western hemisphere itself,

you know, and being leaders of the Western hemisphere. But it does require like a you know, a lot more integration with our hemispheric neighbors, you know, which it's very unfortunate that due to uh, you know, a lot of it due to the Cold War, but a lot of it due to just economic practices and and and the way we managed relations with a lot of Latin America in the you know, the early years of sort of

advanced capitalism. We have a lot of we have a lot of ending of fences to do, you know, a lot of bridges to rebuild with a lot of those countries. But we can totally do it. And and I think that, you know, one of the things is about it too, is it? You know? And this sounds like something I mentioned this to my wife the other day or a version of this, and you know, she's always very much in the in the in the mode of like, well,

we don't need any of that. We just need like somebody in charge, people in charge who are willing to bring out the tanks if they have to and roll over any resistance. And I say, yeah, like theoretically that's true, but realistically. You know, you have to give the American people like like a moral escape route. You know, you have to be able to let them frame things in a way that doesn't make them feel like like a

like an Unchristian kind of terrible person. Even if a lot of it is just been siopped into them since they were little kids, it's still there and we still have to deal with that. And you know, further integration with Latin America and the Latin Americans who are in this country, who are who are here and want to be here, and who are willing to be Americans, I think it gives them a lot of the moral cover that they would need to do the other hard things that would be necessary.

was building there. And yeah, and it's also interesting that you really even after nineteen forty eight, it took a couple of years and he died in what fifty four, Sarah, it took it took a couple of years for him to understand that now that Israel was a state, that Okay, we may have a problem here, but yeah, I mean, when everything Darryl's saying is correct, and we could do

all this, but we're occupied. And until that occupation is dealt with, you know, until you have somebody who can run and I think everyone knows by now, I'm not a national politics guy. But until you have someone who can run for president who is openly anti Zionist, who's openly anti Israel, like or or at least no, not even anti Israel, but like now we're not gonna know. No, they're just like Mandami. I think Cameron McGregor made a really good point when he was on my show recently.

He said, Mamdami getting elected, Mandammi getting elected in New York should be a white pill for people who understand, you know, who are anti Zionist power, because even if he is not anti Zionist, even if this is all an act, and even if he's going to kiss the wall, you know, in a couple of weeks, the people voted for somebody who was like, yeah, we know, we don't care about that country over there. No, it's it's here. The reason I'm I want to be mayor is I

want to take care of New Yorkers. Now we know he just wants to. He's a gay race communist is basically what he is. He's not an undercover Muslim, he's Obama. He's a gay race communist. But still what the people chose should be a white pill.

the existing congressmen. The ones that are running on the fact that they are taking no A pack dollars are getting a tremendous amount of traction and they don't have to pay one red cent to any marketing company for any of that traction because it's organic, isn't. Susie Wiles the former campaign manager for Benjamin Nett and Yahoo that Susie wild.

us over the course of the twentieth century. What you kind of realize is that that was entirely dependent on having very very few media channels that could be run by very very adept propagandists, and that once everything opened up, I mean, you see this ordeal of civility thesis just spill out into public in ways that are really radicalizing people. I mean, you just you know, I don't know if

you guys saw the video that's been going around. I think it was at that event Barry Weiss held the other day or last week or whatever, and there was this this female Jewish activist or institutional leader, I don't even remember who she was, but she was going on and on about how, you know, just they're losing the younger generation because the younger generation is seeing all of these pictures of destruction and dead babies in Gaza, and

they're filtering all of our arguments that were giving them in favor of Israel, like through the lens of the carnage they're witnessing, and this is something that you know, we really need to get control of. And then she says, you know, because for years we invested a lot, we bet a lot on Holocaust education as a way, Oh yes, anti Semitism, and uh, you know, but people have taken the wrong lesson from that. They think the lesson is that we should not be comfortable with big, strong, you know,

powerful people of pressing and harming smaller, weaker people. That's not the lesson, you know. The and in the old days, when you had three channels, you know, in a couple of newspapers, whatever, there would have been like somebody in the hierarchy, like before it got to the level of like mass public attention, that would be like somebody, shut this bitch up. Like no, that just doesn't exist anymore. You know. You have this ordeal of civility just playing

out in public. I mean, you have guys like John pod Horetz, who's one of my favorite kind of just I don't know, I don't, I don't. I'm the type of person I don't generally like to like go at people personally. Uh when I'm want to Joe, but I can't stand that prick dude, Like he's a guy who Like there was this woman she was like a TV chef, like I can't remember her name, TV celebrity chef type,

you know. Uh no it wasn't Rachel Ray, but it was somebody else and she made a I mean just like a miss Rachel type, just anodyne comment about like, wouldn't it be great if all of this destruction in

Gaza stopped, you know, something, just completely inoffensive. And he said he just comes out he doesn't know this woman all right, and I don't know who her father or brothers or husband are, where the fuck they are, But he goes on in public and just says to this woman, well, maybe you should keep your mouth shut, you anti Semitic fucking piece of shit. And it's like Jesus, like, what kind of a human being like just goes in public and speaks to a woman that he doesn't know like that,

you know. And the answer is somebody like John pod Horritz and all of his friends and they just can't help themselves.

just straight on through. I sent it to Tucker last night and we were laughing about it because he's right, like, these people are shooting themselves in the foot. All you have to do is put a microphone in front of them and let him speak for themselves, and the whole thing unravels.

grievances that's gone now because Mark Levine was just like, you people want to kill Jews, you want to genocide us, and it's not going to happen. You couldn't do it before and you're not gonna be able to do it now. And who is this resonating with? I mean, what person listening to that young person in particular, but even also even boomers like this doesn't even Mike Savage, who was like remember him, did you ever listen to Michael Savage? He was just a vicious pro war like genocide.

they're screaming at these guys. They're like, you need to like you need to settle the fuck down, or you are going to get us all in a whole bunch of trouble. And they said that right up until, like I think it was actually after Crystal Knock. They were still they were still trying to calm these fools down. But they don't listen. They have no you know, volume down button. It's only volume of is.

because it's become so they can't shut up. I mean, Dave Portnoy is one of those people, one of those same people who you criticize him a little bit on the smallest thing, and he starts screaming, you know, pogram and you just can't do you can't do that. There was some Zionist lady at the God what is this thing called the Jewish Federation of North America?

in Israel merely your co religionists. So my co religion is if I look at them, and they're not practicing my religion or social justice and certain prophetic values, then what do I have to do with them? But that's a category era the seven million people in Israel. They're not my co religionists, they're my siblings. But I think if you think of them as merely your co religionists, it's easy to slide into anti Zionism. You don't necessarily

have a connection to them. You know, she's basically saying that the world should be lay the Jews are. The world should be loyal to Israel no matter what Israel does, not because that's the moral or truthful position, but because Israel is where their loyalties really, you know, where they belong.

And it's like you read that and then you look at Biden's cabinet, or you look at all the people, you look at the person who's standing behind Donald Trump every time he speaks, and you're like, well, I mean, well, we don't have a country. Then we're being ruled by a people who have a loyalty, and not only a loyalty, but like an intense, like like blood tie to someplace else.

You know, it's the same, it's the same reason why you know when when Ben Shapiro talks about sending money to Israel, he calls it aid, and when Americans want money, Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. Yeah, if you have somebody here who needs money, Ben Shapiro calls it welfare. But it's aid to Israel, and Israel won't survive. Yeah, fuck Americans, But fuck Americans who aren't going to survive unless they have unless they're able to get a check.

on this. But also, like you know, the demographic transformations that are taking place in America are also something that like you said, with New York City, you know, I know, like the white liberals they're all voted for Mom, Donnie too. But there's you know, there are a lot of people there who who voted for him because they're just not subject to the to the Zionist propaganda regime that the rest of us have all been taken in by, you know, since World War Two. And you know, so these changes

are taking place and they are losing power. You know, the concern whenever you have you know, a very solipsistic and arrogant ruling classes, we do that that that perceives any loss of control on their part as like a major emergency for everybody, for the whole world, that they could you know, really blow things up rather than go out peacefully. But you know, as far as yeah, far as how it ends, I mean.

He knows what's going on. You know, he's very much like a like a gen X Christian American who is uncomfortable with you know, as he said in that Fuentes interview, like many times, you know, with any kind of ascribing of group guilt to people, all those things. He's very averse to all of that. But in terms of these people were talking about the specific people are who are pulling the levers on these things, he knows who they are, and he and they know that he knows who they are.

And he's a conduit, you know to just normy conservatives

who've never been able to hear this stuff before. And if they have heard it, you know, it triggered one of those deeply embedded emotional sort of you know trauma triggers they got watching shitters lit in sixth grade at school, you know, and so Tucker is similar to the way that like, by the time you got up to twenty sixteen, like most Republican voters were like, man, we are never going to get this albatross of the era war and everything off our fucking back or around from our neck.

And but we can't like just denounce it or whatever, because then we're saying, oh, yeah, Nancy Pelosi was right all along and blah blah blah, we can't do that. But Trump came in and gave them permission to be like, no, that was all bullshit. And Tucker is doing that for a normy audience right now, and he understands, like, you know, one of the things that he understands very well is that all of us have a place in the ladder,

you know, and that normany start at the bottom. You have to give them a low rung to grab onto, and then you have to give them a second rung

to grab onto. There's a lot of people out there, you know, a lot of the annon's on Twitter and other places who they just they want anybody with any kind of a public profile to prove their bona fides by going out there and just you know, screaming the most obsig, it's going to get them banned, like just to show that they're really down for the cause or whatever. I always tell these people, you don't understand how propaganda works, you know. Somebody like Tucker understands that his job is

to point people to point Pete. His job is to take people who are bored with Matt Walsh and send him to me. My job is to take people who get bored with me and send them to Pete. You know. And when I hear I've told Pete this before, when I hear people like or see people online being like, you know, I used to listen to Darryl, but then I realized he's just a cuck faggot who won't say any of the real shit. So now I only listen

to Thomas. I'm like, yeah, another, and like, I don't take that personally at all, because I'm comfortable with my place, you know, on the ladder, and we need all of those pieces. I was talking to Oran McIntyre about this the other day. He came out and he said something that was more strident than you're used to hearing from oron from Oran about the people we're talking about. And I didn't go in and you know, like concern troll

him or anything. But I got into his DMS and because you know, we're pretty good buddies by this point, and I was like, dude, just be careful. We need you exactly where you are, Like you know, we don't need you like coming over even further to our So like all that is great, like do that internally, but in terms of the propaganda process, we need you exactly where you are. You know, you play a very important

role in this whole thing. So and he understands that, and uh, you know, just all of us always have to keep that in mind. You know, like this is a process and you have to like normal people like look, I I Americans are basically decent people. You know, like foreigners who come over here, they all say the same thing, like you know, you just they're they're always surprised by

just sort of how open Americans are. They'll just start talking to you about their family and their whatever, like the day you meet them kind of thing, and uh, you know, they're kind. They're the kind of people who you know, they don't they're not comfortable feeling like they're doing something that like really goes that that that goes against like a deeply held principle that they have. You know,

they don't want to be an immoral person. They don't want to feel like they're being unjust to anybody or any group. And none of this, you know, none of the things that we're talking about are unjust to anybody or any group.

really call it Zionist. Where they go after Charles Lindberg and they completely like disappear him, they totally take him down and he's no longer a factor. They go after Sam Francis, they go after Pat Buchanan, and the neo cons went ham on pap Buchanan, And if you go back and read their you know, editorials that they wrote for the National Review, et cetera, about Pat Buchanan, they were saying the same things then as they're saying about you know, anti Zionists.

Fox News. They already did that. And look at him now, I mean even on AXI he's huge, but he's on YouTube, he's all over the internet, and even if they could somehow get him off those platforms, which it looks like they're not going to, he would still have the Tucker Carlson Network.

because they're consumed by hate. Now, you have an adversary, and you deal understand who your adversary is and structure your life so that that adversary you can mitigate as much of the negative consequences of that adversary as you can. And that's it. You can't get consumed by hate. You will end up saying stupid shit and then you know, yeah, I've been anonymous on the internet. It's no fun. It's no fun. You're just yeah, I mean, I may have.

Navy doctor. He was a candidate for the astronaut program and came up second among the candidates only the Johnny Kim, which is a silver Star winning Navy seal that used to work for Jocko and Ramadi who now is a Harvard educated doctor, and he's just a freaking super candidate, right, this guy came in second to him. This buddy of mine was on track to be an admiral. I mean, he was gonna be one of our guys like up at the flag level in the Navy. And he started

listening to you know, TRS podcast. He starts go, it is a super smart guy obviously, starts listening to a lot of these just you know, sort of more uncontrolled kinds of content that we have out there on our side, and he just did the he did the thing that we have seen happen to so many people where you like literally couldn't bring him into mixed company anymore, because ten minutes into any conversation with your grandmother, he's going

to start talking about the Jews or something. And it got to the and it got to that point where he couldn't keep his fucking mouth shut in front of his boss, in front of an admiral. And now he's getting processed out of the Navy, and you know he's forgetting, I mean forget about like just having a guy in

his position who understands where we're coming from. It's a guy with a wife and kid, and now you know he's going to be in a in a very just difficult, difficult situation, you know, coming out of the Navy on a on like other than honorable kind of circumstances, and so like, those are the kind of things we really have to avoid just on a personal level, but also just because it takes you out of the game when you do that, you know, and and it just makes

you so predictable and so reactive, so easily provoked by the enemy. You know, they know somebody who is full of anger, full of rage and hate. They know exactly what to say to get you to freak out, just the same way that you know. I made this point to h to Scott the other day on our Provoked podcast,

Scott Horton. When I was trying to I was just mounting a defense of of the groupers to a degree where you know, I was trying to explain to him that like for years, these guys have been in an extremely asymmetric war right where the people that they're combating can destroy their lives. They out them, they get them fired, from their job. They put them on massive websites like SPLC and ADL, the hate Watch. You know, that just is there permanently, and this is the first they make sure.

It's the first thing that comes up if you google their name when they're trying to rent a house or get a job or something like that. These are all the tools. They're canceling, their bank accounts, their credit cards. These are the tools that their enemies had to use against them. And what did they have at their disposal? What weapons did they have? Well, they know that they

can say a few things. If you make a comment to you that is going to trigger you and pull you down to their level and make you look like an asshole. And so that's what they do. You know, you can destroy them by getting them fired from their job and putting them on the hate watch website. They can call you a racial slur, a jew, whatever, and watch you freak out and knack like a more on online.

And that's the weapon that they had to fight back with, you know, And you could you could say whatever you want about that, but that's what was going on. And so, uh, you know, I totally understand where a lot of that comes from, but at a time now where we're really like, we've got a lot of momentum behind us, and I don't want to overplay that too much. We've still got a long, long hill to climb, a lot of obstacles

to overcome. Uh, but you know, we're we're at a place now where they can no longer they can no longer fight us on those asymmetric terms so much. You know, they have to actually meet us in the field. And you see how that's going for him. It's not going well. And so you know, being in a in a more in more even combat like that, it requires different tactics, you know, and and and people just have to keep that in mind.

of their ethno religious persuasion. But when guys like Tucker will point out like why it's wrong and why x y Z policy that the administration is doing is wrong, and why America you know, why x y Z is bad and you know, bad for America, that they can't when they say like, oh, well, these things are we need to do these things for Americans, they seem to struggle with the ability of pointing out who that is right. So if I go to like China and I ask a Chinese man, what is an American? What does he

look like? The Chinese man will tell me same thing. If I go to India, i go to Africa, they'll tell me what an African or the African will tell me what an American is. And no one in our political apparatus, you know, on our side, is able to tell me what an American is. So when they say they want to do all of these things for the benefit of Americans, they seem to be enable to attach that to even an idea of a people group because you say, like, well, who is an American? Well, everyone's

an American. And I think this is probably one of the biggest shackles holding back both the direction of the directing of policy but also the directing of the rhetorical fight we're in. So I'd love to hear your take on what that would look like. Yeah, what is an American identity?

are younger than us, do you know. I mean, if you think about it, like for somebody like Tucker, I mean, it's partly moral ethical, but it's also just partly pragmatic.

And I understand this part of it like very well that he looks at the situation and says, look, man, if we start talking just about race, like if you look at the like the the the the trajectory of demographics, if we go into that kind of a you know, just say again like fortress mentality, where we just withdraw into like racial identity purely, like purely, that we're gonna end up in a country that, uh, you know where where the majority populations are allied against us, and that

we can't really provide any kind of leadership for now.

And and I'm sympathetic to that, to that, to that idea for sure, because it is I mean, we do have to deal with the world as we find it right now, and we also have to you know, I mean, look like I've I've brought this up before, I think in a in an article for I don't remember who, but you know, Thomas talked about how this ideal of like the white American Obviously, you go back to the very beginning, and people knew that African slaves had darker skin than them, and they were black, and they were

white like. People understood that on some level, but in terms of like the operative elements of their identity outside the South, like people were Catholic or Protestant, they were Irish or Italian or Jewish or Anglo, and the idea of you know, just us being white people was again they were aware of it, but it wasn't it wasn't the operative part of their identity because it would have been like going to Norway back in nineteen fifty and making a big you know, I'm a Norwegian kind of thing.

It was just everybody was Norwegian. There's no reason to even have it enter into your consciousness. For the most part, the things that the differentiations that actually made a difference to them were things that applied in their local community,

you know, Irish, Catholic, Italian, Catholic, Jewish, whatever. And you know, it was only with the great migration of the blacks out of the South, but you had all of these dipate white groups who were confronted with this, with this alien force that was really wreaking havoc on their neighborhoods

and in their lives, their community lives. And then after they got drove out, driven out into the suburbs where you're an Italian guy who has an Irish neighbor and a Jewish neighbor, and you know, there's the old Italian Catholic church is forty five minutes across town, and only old ladies who still live in the neighborhood go there, and you don't go there anymore. Like that, you had that sort of like all of those people begin to

melt into a white population. But that's something that's like pretty recent, you know, in terms of having that as

an operative part of any identity. And we have, like anybody above the age of about forty went through at least twelve years of indoctrination in school, an entire lifetime of indoctrination by the media telling them that anytime that part of their identity starts to assert itself, they need to put themselves in check because not only is it immoral danger, it's going to be personally dangerous for you if that gets if that gets to be too much

of what you're thinking about. And so you know, it's very hard for people a little older than us to really to overcome that and figure out a way too, you know, preserve that element of racial identity which is

going to become. It's just it's going to be important going forward, and you know, in the world and in the United States, but also being willing to branch out and have relationships, have a sort of you know, maybe even like a you could say, like a like a not geographically demarketed in the same way, but the way Switzerland has like an ethnic federation in a way you know, where you have these different groups, different people, and you know, the any in the in the people who are you know,

who are willing and and and desiring to be part of the project you know of America. We can work with them, We can provide leadership to them, We can work with their leaders and give them their respect that do you know, as people who are here and who want to be a part of the project and who contribute to it, give them a respect without necessarily having to just melt together into like some new hemispheric race or something, which I just don't think is going to

happen regardless. I mean, and you know, so I mean if you think about it, like that period after the Second World War up to about maybe the JFK assassination or so, like that was probably the closest we came to having like a real American ethnogenesis on like a national level where you had like a people who really felt like, you know, there was something just meaningfully American things that they were, you know, that that everybody was proud of, even if it was based on a lot

of propaganda in the World wars and things like that, but that that really brought them together and united them

as a people. You know, I think about how you know, the city of the town of Vicksburgh never celebrated the fourth of July after it was conquered during the Civil War until July forth nineteen forty four, after the D Day landing, and it was just you know, again propaganda or not like we had had by nineteen forty four, twenty years or really like thirty years because immigration kind of you know, really came to a trickle when the

First World War broke out. It wasn't just in nineteen twenty four, and so they had thirty years at that point, the entire generation had been able to grow up into working age adults who were all born in America. We hadn't didn't have like a new generation. Is the first time it's really happened in American history. You know, you have seventeen seventy six and basically within a generation you've

got Germans and Irish flooding. In a generation later it's Italians and Jews and others from Eastern and southern Europe. But then after that petered out with the First World War, that kind of the overseas immigration kind of came to an end, and by the time you get up to the end of the Second World War really been almost

thirty years. But of course by that point is you know, we replaced that, We replaced that with the great migration of blacks out of the South, and so that really did like contribute to an ethnogenesis among American whites during that period. And you know, you wonder what might have happened if, you know, if we hadn't passed heart Seller in nineteen sixty five and we had figured out a way to integrate, you know, blacks into the country in a way that you know, didn't place them in such

a hostile relationship to it. For the most part, and like, you know, you wonder, but again, like this is the world that that we got to live with now, and it's much much more difficult, you know, Like Anglos had to renegotiate American identity with Germans and Irish, not easy given the time, you know, I mean, they were very different and often hostile peoples. You had to do it again with the Italians and Jews and others in the

late nineteenth early twentieth century. But still, you know, this was something that, compared to what we're facing now, was pretty doable. Now when we're dealing with people who are you know, not just a different denomination of Christianity or even you know, in the case of the Jews, like people who are sort of part of the Biblical tradition or something. We're just dealing with a huge assortment of radically different culturally, racially.

you know. And so these are very difficult circumstances that like we didn't have to deal with when we were trying to rein when we were trying to integrate the European immigrants. Over the years, figuring out how to do it again, and I just think that we have to be able to reach out and uh and create relationships with the civilized minorities that are out there. You know, We're just we're not going to accomplish it without their cooperation,

without their help. And I think that you know, they, like I said earlier, you know, you ask like you talk to a lot of latinas, you talk to like Arab women, you talk to a lot of minority women, and it's seen as like a status symbol to be with a white guy. It still is to this day.

There are a lot of these people, these groups that would be perfectly willing to to to to accept the leadership of heritage Americans in this project of you know, sort of civilizing the rest of the country and dealing with the people that can't be civilized, but we do need their help and cooperation. I very much believe that.

So I don't think this will happen now, but eventually it will. The people that pay for the government, I think, will only allow the government to work against their own particular and broad self interest, which none of the organized minorities seem to really give a shit about. It's kind of that like like you said earlier about like you know, taking the silverware, and you know, even the doorknobs off of a sinking ship don't really particularly care one way

or the other. But the people that our politicians are unable to articulate existing are the only people that fund the government. So you have this type of Mexican standoff where one party doesn't realize that they have a gun. If any moment in time these people decided to say, stop paying for a government that didn't service them, it would collapse literally overnight. I mean, the treasury bonds that underpin the global financial system are basically promisory notes on

the future contributions of that class of people. So I mean, it could get really shitty if it goes that way. And I mean the only way it would probably go that way is if the administration lost the midterms and then lost the election, which I think is a very real risk because of their inability to articulate the people that vote for them. Right, Black males don't vote, Black females vote almost entirely left. It doesn't really matter how many of them you went over. There not a large

demographic Hispanics. I think, to your point is a coalition that that you can build the type of commonality at

least enough for everyone to vote the same way. But I think this inability to recognize that our voters are almost entirely white people at this stage in the game, and particularly because of the acceleration in rhetoric that guys like Shapiro and guys like Mark Levin are doing in a negative sense, it's actually the Jews that are accelerating this, this group of people finally, as the leftoid say, getting racial consciousness. So I think, like, I mean, look what

happened in Virginia and look what's about to happen in Florida. Right, Like, the leadership of the ostensible conservative parties are adverse of either a articulating who they actually serve who votes for them, and be running candidates that represent those people. And I think unless this has figured out in the short term, I think it's enough to lose the midterms, especially with like the repetitive comments out of the administration about how

much we need H one b's or whatever. I don't think they're aware of how much ground they're losing between the only voter base that actually votes for them.

each other without having the FBI sicked on us. Like that's their certificate and that's really all we need from them at this point. You know, you're not going to take somebody. I think Tucker is fifty six people guys who were fifty six, Like, they don't they don't have like revolutionary changes in their moral compass or any of those kind of things, you know, like scientific paradigms at what's an old quote like that, nobody changes their minds.

Like the people who believe one thing just retire and die off, and they get replaced with people who understand the new paradigm better. And that's why that system that I was talking about earlier, that is just important, you know, like getting somebody getting some of the older generations, somebody like Tucker to speak directly to the things that we think need to be spoken to, like a I think, you know, just for propaganda purposes. That's just not as product.

But it's you're not gonna not gonna be able to do that. You know. What you can do is get somebody like him to open up enough space for somebody like me to operate, and then somebody like me to open up enough space for you know, people who can be more direct to operate. And if we can continue to take advantage of that in the time we have, you know, if we can get VANCE in there for eight years. Yeah, I mean this is and again forget

about like what you think VANCE is gonna accomplish. Anybody out there who doesn't like it, I don't care about that. That's fine. That gives us twelve years of not having you know, the IRS and FBI and everything else on our back, of not having the federal government probably going ham trying to force Elon Musk to sell Twitter, you know,

and closing down that channel of communication. It gives us twelve years to you know, be able to to have in person meetings and talk to each other face to face and get to know each other without having our groups infiltrated by you know, uh informants the FBI. That's the kind of work that needs to be done right now. And that's the work that we are able to accomplish, whatever anybody thinks about the Trump administration or future Dvant administration.

And when you add to that the fact that you know, this happened to a great degree, like in the Reagan and first Bush term twelve years, you know, the Republicans held power, and we can look back and say, oh,

they were forget their politics, right. What happened during that period, though, is a lot of the opposition financial networks that had existed in the sixties and seventies, a lot of the just sort of the ideological infrastructure that had supported the left up until like through the nineteen seventies, Like all of that stuff just evaporated because they were out of

power for twelve years, and so money went elsewhere. A lot of the people who were running a lot of those institutions all retired and got replaced with new people. So that you get to the nineteen nineties and the Democrats basically had to run a guy uh To to win the presidency that was basically a Republican in the nineteen eighties, you know, and uh, you know, if we if we have twelve years to work with where these people are out of power, you know, they're all like

the Chuck Schumer is going to retire. A lot of these people are going to retire, and a lot of the talent they have at like the lower levels. You know, Chuck Schumer's a moral monster find but like these people are at least political animals who knew how to operate and knew how to get their way. You know, a lot of times Ben Shapiro is not going to be able to replace, you know, just or just look at the uh, look at the just the generational difference between

the neo Conservatives. You know, say what you want about Norm pod Hortz and Irving Crystal. These were very intelligent guys. Their kids are just these retard fail sons who like are just embarrassment to their own families, you know. And

and that's a lot of the Democrat Party. And you know, they have themselves to thank for that to a large degree, just because you know, one of the best things it really happened in the Democrat Party over the course of the Obama administration is that the Clinton's, the Clinton machine just completely cleaned off their whole bench, like they because they didn't want a repeat of twenty eight in twenty sixteen. They didn't want anybody to step up who was really

going to challenge Hillary Clinton. And so when you got to the end of the Obama administration, the Democrats had no bench whatsoever. I mean, you look at the Republican primaries in twenty sixteen, and you had like probably like at least half a dozen, probably ten viable candidates, you know, forgetting about their politics or whatever, like ten guys who

probably could have run a competent presidential campaign. The Democrats they got nobody, you know, they got nobody, and you know, as their financial networks just start to migrate or evaporate, because you know, they're just not in power, as a lot of the competent leadership that they have left starts to retire and die off. Twelve years a long time.

A lot can happen in twelve years, you know, and we can get to a point where I mean, I mean just in the time period we've had, and this is with a four year break with the federal government going hard at us during the Biden administration, but just in the time we've had since twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, Look how much we've been able to accomplish, you know, and so if we can get another you know, nine years of that will be in a very very different place.

You know, things things are changing way too much. You look at the polls of like the way younger generations think about it. People who are zoomers now are going to be in their mid forties, you know, and they're going to be the middle managers of companies, and they're going to actually be people who, you know, who aren't just participating in this stuff as anonymous Twitter trolls, but they're going to be participating in society in different ways,

you know, and in more elevated ways. So we just got to buy ourselves at time. And it's why I'm you know again, I tell people I don't really care what your thoughts about him personally are hundred percent advanced twenty twenty eight, just because we he's not hostile to us. He's not going to sick the federal government on us, and that is all we need residential administration right now.

see politics as it is now. I think that that and probably housing is probably the biggest hurdle for our guys right now. Is the lack of organized financial support, like there is no h Arabella networks for people like us.

It's probably one of the biggest you know, I probably say the biggest, if not like the second biggest issue that we have to overcome, and I think probably the second is housing unless this administration is able to a stop and reverse immigration to a large degree, but stop and reverse both private equity and more importantly and larger

foreign nationals purchasing US real estate. They don't live in them, right, So, like three quarters of the kind of the apartments in Manhattan are owned by Chinese, Russian, Indian nationals that will never step foot in them, nor will they ever rent them. It's just that their financial systems are coming apart. And the safest thing in the world to invest in, safer than the US dollars because it protects you from inflation,

is US real estate. So until we kind of allow guys to form families, yes too, I think a type of mindset is generated by a man that has a family, right, a wife and a house. It makes his perception of time much longer, and it makes them capable of doing the hard work that takes a long time before you

see results. So it's not just you know, it gives them a long term time horizon, it's something that you know, it's a victory that they can put underneath their belt that says, Okay, if I struggle at something for a very long time, eventually it will yield results for me that are worth it. I think that's probably the first step on the ladder. And unfortunately, all of the you know, solutions that we've seen out of this administration so far

are not really able to deal with that. But I think if you've solved those two things, get get guys, get people with ideas like us. You know, luckily, I don't you know, I was very lucky professionally, and I don't have to worry about a lot of the things that other people worry about. But I don't have enough money to you know, I'm not a I'm not George

Soros money. I'm not you know, Bill Gates money, So I we don't have those type of people that share our ideas that are willing to put money to work where people can make this their full time job, because we do have to order. I agree with you, we do have to. There needs to be an entire infrastructure of people that come in with vance, both in public organization in private. So I hope those things can could get solved. But I asked for you. You're going to say something, I'm.