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How Should We Think and Handle Our Emotions? w/ Stormy Waters

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Stormy Waters is a managing partner of a venture capital firm. 

The opening words of Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations," which they utilize as a springboard to discuss attitude and emotion for the future, are read by Stormy and Pete. This was episode 1276.

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Speaker 1

I want to welcome everyone back to the Peking Yana Show. Stormy's back, and yeah, we're gonna We're gonna go in a completely different direction. And let me put this out there right up front, right up front, because whenever I do an episode like this, I'm going to get comments saying, you should have this person on to talk about this. You should have that person on to talk about about Marcus Aurelius and the meditations and stoicism. Now the Stormy

and I are going to talk about this. So how you doing, Stormy doing well?

Speaker 2

Doing well?

Speaker 1

How about yourself doing well? Man? So you mentioned you mentioned Marcus Aurelius. You it was a few months ago you said, you know, we should read and discuss you know, some of the meditations, go through, go through some of the meditations, and I just put it in the back of my head and I was like, Okay, when the time comes, you know, when I think about it, when I remember again, when it comes back to the forefront from the back, it comes back to the front from

the from the back, We'll do it. But why do you why did you talk about this? Why did you think we should talk about this on the air?

Speaker 2

Well? Because it I don't know how Marcus Aurelius came to a lot of his ideas, but it's basically the I don't want to call it like Eastern mysticism, right. He could have arrived at these entirely organically, but well there was, I mean, that's much more to us.

Speaker 1

Let me interrupt you real quick so that you I'm sorry, yep Zeno of Citium round three in the three hundred BC, he's basically considered the founder of Stoicism. He forms a school. Uh Cleanthes is his his student, Chrysippus is his student.

So you know in the in the BC times, in the before times, you did have a school, a Stoic school, and these these are the three, you know, early figures in establishing Stoicism in in ancient Greece, but later Romans picked up on it like Seneca episode epic Teta, I can never pronounce his name epic Tetus or epic epitet epicoet epic Tetus. I'll go with that. And Marcus Aurelia is built on the foundations, but they're not considered the founders.

So basically, what what uh Marcus Aurelius is doing is a Roman form of Stoics that he got from Greek fathers I would say three hundred years before he lived.

Speaker 2

Well, so when I say like Eastern mysticism, there is a lot of Eastern mysticism that is taken again like people guys like doctor Stephen Skinner and a couple others that basically do like the history of the basically like deep histories of mysticism, and not from like the from the content of it, but basically who said what and

when and how these ideas propagated. So something magical happened when Alexander got to Egypt, because you had two groups of people that were working on the same problem but from opposite ends, and the Egyptians had a lot of what the Greeks missed, but without the Greek's rigor. You know, Pythagoras had a large amount of followers at the time. Even though he didn't survive the Siege of Tire, all of his followers did and from there on out, Greek thought on well in this case to what we're talking

about today, emotions changes quite a bit. And then Marcus Aurelius, I think you're yeah, you're definitely correct. This would be like a rediscovery of it right, because there wasn't a lot of Romans actually, I mean, for as much as they were, you know, Greek fans at this time, I don't think there were anybody else but those three that we know of.

Speaker 1

Well yeah, I mean there are going to be others, but that's that's the school. That's where those are the three big names. You know, like if you were going to talk about Greek philosophy, we're going to talk about Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates.

Speaker 2

I mean that's based Roman Stoicism. It's just those three names roman Stoicism.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean there is more, but you know, as as I said, were naming a whole line of people and everything, you have to concentrate on who the main, most influential were and it's those story.

Speaker 2

So the reason I like Marcus Aurelius's meditations is because you can pull these lessons out with and leave the mysticism, and because it is in Latin, it's very easy to read and digest. And when he is described when instead of like a very esoteric teaching that will take you, you know, months, months to pull apart to find out what the guy actually meant, Marcus Aurelius gives it to

you in context of real situations he's dealing with. So it is both the knowledge and applied knowledge simultaneously, so you're able to grasp the concepts much much easier. And he leaves out a lot of the other stuff that I think would take people of a Christian background, It would probably cause a lot of people to turn their nose up at it. So just the teachings of how the man views his emotions as separate from him, right, they are not, you know, things that he has control

over that are internal processes. Marx's relis views them as external processes, right His you know, the question is for him is how one reacts to these external processes. So it's not like, you know, you're going to get rid of emotion. You're not going to get your emotions under control. Like all these things are impossible. You have no control over the emotions, the emotional information, the content that comes

to you. The only thing you do have control over is how you respond or react to these emotions, you know. And Marcus's take is the same as no, God, I

can't believe I'm blinking aloutsuit the eternal doubt. These things, these are things to be observed studied, let them wash over you wait till they're gone, right, and then internalize time more and more information, and in these emotions that you are socking away, you know, in your knowledge bank, become something you can pull from later and use almost like a power source of infinite immovability, steadfastness, or strength.

And I think that would be something that would be very valuable for people in our day and age, specifically our guys when we have to interact on the Internet and are interfacing with algorithms that are deliberately designed to elicit emotional responses and get them into very non productive moods. Right, it teaches it'll teach you how to not be a reactive you know, loser jump from current thing to current thing.

These things don't mean anything. The emotions they give you are not yours, right, They're not innate to your conscious mind. And the strength to not react to them and to study them, like why am I having this? Why is this particular thing making me feel this particular type of way would benefit our guys a lot, because I think our information environment is extremely more hostile than one in any other age. I think it's actually the biggest hurdle to us making change.

Speaker 1

Well, I also think it's important to know if something is if you're having trouble, if something is causing you to get emotional, get upset, whatever, whatever it might be, then to avoid that. And I think that the problem is is like one of those things that I know causes a lot of people because sometimes I have to just get off of it for long periods of time,

is social media. Social media can be daunting because it is designed to bombard you with information, and if it's information that is going to upset you, if it's information where you've you feel like you have a stake in it, like you're invested in it, and it's not going your way, which, let's face it, most of the time things aren't going to go your way, especially if you have no power over them, then you should know to avoid it. I

mean that's just really the beginning of knowledge. And I fail often at that because I feel like, oh, if I'm not on social media, I'm not on the biggest battlefield in the world. And no, actually, the biggest battlefield in the world is in your skull.

Speaker 2

I couldn't have said it better.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's what you have to you know, you have to try to learn to master. You'll never master it, but at least you know you're on the path.

Speaker 2

It also creates what's necessary for leadership. Like, I think people misunderstand, like what leadership is. It's like, it's not like a learned thing. You can't like learn to be a leader. Like it's a thing that you study. Right, you could jump up in a like I know everything about leadership. That does not mean people will look to you as a leader. You don't get to decide whether you're the leader or not. Right. That is a decision

that everybody around you makes independently inside themselves. And what are they basing that decision on. They're basing it on your presence.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

People want a leader because that person is unmoved, unchanged by you know, very negative externalities by crisis. The person that is always of a cool head, right, a leader, we call it. Like leaders These are just men that are internally ordered inside. Right, they are integrated their conscious mind, their unconscious mind, their physical self. Right. These are they are mind, body, and soul of one thing. Right, they

are firm and immovable. And when they are these things, how they order themselves internally projects externally?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 2

I guess for lack of a better term, It's a vibe and everyone around you will pick it up. So ordering yourself internally is how we make leaders, I think. I mean, there's many people that can disagree with me, but I think you'd have a hard time because who people look to as a leader is a choice that they make and oftentimes without even knowing you. In a crisis,

people decide in an instant who the leader is. And if our guys are ordered internally when crisis hits, which it will, they will be the ones who will be looked to as leaders because they will be the ones calm, firm, and immovable, and they will project the type of safety

that everyone is going to be attracted to. So I think Marcus Aurelius has the best tools to make leaders because I think it's an internal thing and on an external thing, not something that you can, like, I'm going to learn and you know, take a crash course in leadership. I think that it's a waste of time. Well, we've even read the book yet, this is already a pretty good discussion.

Speaker 1

Yeah. Yeah, let's just let people know. Marcus Aurelius was the Emperor Rome from one sixty one to one eight. He came from his he was a son of a prey tour, so yeah, he's he comes after Hadrian's adoptive son, Alias Caesar died in one thirty eight. Hadrian adopted Marcus's uncle Antonius Pius as his new heir. Later later in turn and Sonius adopted Marcus and Lucius the son of Alias. So yeah, he this is somebody who was emperor of Rome.

And yeah, let's I think a lot of people have in their mind what the emperor of how the Emperor of Rome would act, and how he would think. But Marcus Aurelius's meditations are seemed to seems to fly in the face of what most people would think. So let me read. Yeah, this is well, yeah, this has broken up into parts into verse almost verses, like like biblical how biblical chapters are broken up. So let me just read the first one. So this is the first book

of Marcus Aurelius. This is the first uh, first part of my grandfather Verus. I have learned to be gentle and meek, and to refrain from all anger and passion. From the fame and memory of him that begot me. I have learned both shamefastness and manlike behavior. Shamefastness is in a term that we're very, very familiar with anymore,

but it's basically the quality. I'm going to read the definition the quality or state of being modest, shy, or bashful rooted in a sense of propriety and restraint, rather

than the awkwardness of being shamefaced of my mother. I have learned to be religious and bountiful, and to forbear not only to do, but to intend, but to intend any evil, to content myself with a spare diet, and to fly all such excess as is incidental to great wealth of my great grandfather, both to frequent public schools and auditories, and to get me good and able teachers at home, And that I ought not to think much if,

upon such occasions I were at excessive charges. So this already flies in the face of what most people think a leader is a modern way. It's what most people. Most people think a modern leader is a sociopath. And this is an Emperor of Rome, and obviously he's not a sociopath. He's telling you to do the exact opposite. So Part two I'll just do here real quick of

him that brought me up. Not to be fondly addicted to either of the two great factions of the coursers in the circus, called Parsini and Venetzi, nor in the amphitheater partially to favor any of the gladiators or fencers, as either the par Parmulari or the secut Secutorus, and those are two classes of gladiator. Moreover, to endure labor, nor to need many things. When I have anything to do, to do it myself rather than by others. Not to meddle with many businesses, and not easily to admit of

the slander. I'm starting to feel seen here.

Speaker 2

Yeah, this is how you get men like Cincinnatus. Yeah, it's thinking like this.

Speaker 1

Yeah. Moreover twins or labor, nor to need many things, and when I have anything to do, to do it myself rather than by others. It's too easy in the modern world to have other people do something for you. Of diagenetis not to busy myself about vain things, and not easily to believe those things which are commonly spoken by such as take upon them to work wonders, and by sorcerers or prestig prestidigitators and impostors concerning the power of charms, and they're driving out of demons or evil

spirits and the like. That's keep quails for the game. Nor to be mad after such things, Not to be offended with other men's liberty of speech, and to apply myself onto philosophy. Him Also, I must think that ever I heard first Bacchius, then Tendasus and Marcianus, and that I did write dialogues in my youth, and that I took liking to the philosopher's little couch and skins and such other things, which, by the Grecian discipline are proper

to those who profess philosophy. Not to be offended with other men's liberty of speech, and to apply myself onto philosophy. What do you have to say to that.

Speaker 2

I don't see a single modern leader. It really this particular. Yeah, there's a lot to say. This is a person that is very, very particular about how he keeps his mental space, right if you like, So that the verse three talks about all of the things that he does and does not do. But the common theme with the other three the other two verses is what he thinks and what he does not allow himself to think and most importantly, what he allows others to see. This is a person

that is completely sovereign in his own mind. He's not if he doesn't want to think about something or think a certain way about something. He doesn't if he wants to think about something. His mind is doing what his mind is tasked to do, and not what it wants to do.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

Not to be offended by another man's liberty of speech, Well, he can't decide whether he's offended or not initially, so what does he mean? He means, I'm going to have control over how I express myself because you can't decide to be offended or not, so you can decide how you can react, how you react or not.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's not that's not something in the modernity as it tells us to just react to everything in a very feminine, in a very feminine way.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we're supposed to be the passive recipients, and this man is not a passive anything. I mean so A he's constantly talking about like all of the things he doesn't do. I don't want to show favor to anyone. I want to do things myself. I don't want to bother anyone. I want to give thanks to each and every person that has helped me along the way, and think about and remember them.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

I don't think a lot of us, especially nowadays, give thanks. I mean, we do when we pray, but there's a lot of people in our lives that do a lot of things for us. How often do we take time to remember all of those people and what they have done to help us? I mean, before I came across

the text, I don't think I ever had. There's an ordering to him thinking taking the time to give thanks internally for every single person that has helped shape him to the person that he is, is hand and tied to him, not busying himself with vain things, him not favoring any excess. How do you be humble? Well, he's telling you. He's doing it in front of you. He is recognizing each every person's contribution to them himself. Well, if you do that, it's really hard to be an

ego maniac, isn't it. This is him checking He is checking his ego. He's humbling himself by recognizing each individual person's contribution to what makes him up. The man that's writing it today or on the day that he wrote it, and he's actually what's actually I forgot was like how detailed he is in like this person taught me to do this or behave in this way, and now this is how I behave in all of these instances. And I was brought up to not be addicted to either

of the great factions. And this is how I don't favor these groups in the amphitheater, and this is how I don't favor these groups in the gladiatorial arena. Has an exercise in humility?

Speaker 1

Go ahead, Yeah, as a leader, I'm yeah, I'm going to jump to this. I probably would have held this comment a little longer. But this is the kind of person. And you've known people like this in your life, the quiet person, the person who's a man of few words. You got the idea that writing this was him was an outlet for him, because he's somebody who's not going

to speak many words. He's also the kind of person who if he's not choosing sides in the most in things of it don't matter, like the you know, like the the arena and what happens you're what happens if you're invaded, say the barbarians are at the gates. How do you act towards that? Do you start to panic? Do you lose your mind? Are you such a stoic that you don't care? No, that's not it at all.

The thing is this is somebody who is in the face of problems is not going to think about how solving them makes him look in the eyes of others. He's just going to solve the problem and it's not going to be for any other reason. Then there's a problem that needs to be solved, and I'm not going to get worked up over it. I'm not going to be emotional over it. I'm just going to solve the problem. And once the problem is solved, we move on, and

that's it. That's one of the reasons why you know, when we say hating your enemies, oh I hate them? Why why are you expending that energy? Why do you think Why do you think that that emotion is profitable? Do you think that one day you're going to have to kill and that that by hating it'll be easier to do that. Someone like Marcus Aurelius doesn't. He doesn't need that. He just knows that if he has to kill, he has to kill, and that's it. It's just a

decision that he has to make. It doesn't have to be emotional. It is just something that needs to be done. And I think hate and emotions is such just weaken you, and it weakens your vision for sure. And I think we're taught to hate. And I think, really, if you really think about it, our enemies have taught us to hate because they know what makes us weak.

Speaker 2

Yep, and it makes them strong. They need it. But it's also really interesting, as I kept on, well you were saying that, I kept thinking about justice must be delivered dispassionately. If not, then it is not justice, it's vengeance. This is a man that could meet her out justice. There there's lots of men that will, you know, commit acts of revenge, But then you're not actually doing anything.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

Other if you're committing acts of revenge, maybe people will be afraid of you, but they won't come to you. If you're dispassionate. Then when you do kill someone, whether yourself or by order, it's justice. It actually means something to everyone, where vengeance means something only to you. It means nothing to anyone else except for this guy just murdered somebody. And you could apply that to pretty much

every aspect of leading. Right again back to him thinking each and every person he will go on to do more of it. Is this an emperor that heeds his advisor's counsel? Is this a person that thinks that he knows more than everyone in the room. So what Peter has talked about as far as hatred, right, or whether this is a person that is going to take counsel from his advisors when offered, isn't going to dismiss them as like, oh no, I know more than you, I'm

the smartest guy in the room. Right, These are very similar things even though they have they sound like they have nothing in common unless you're a leader than what Pete has described and I just described are blind spots, places where you will make the wrong decision for selfish reasons, whether it be to fulfill your own hate or to fulfill your own ego. Right, this is how you're supposed to rule and not for your own benefit. You can be a macia like Pete was just saying, does this

guy sound like a sociopath or not? He doesn't, Oh, well, then how is he going to get into power and be all machiavellian? This is about exercising power, having the right to rule. I think the Bronze Age barbarianism shit has kind of poisoned a lot of people's minds to what having agency is, to what being a leader is, to what governing is. Having power is. All those things are duties. Having power over your family, over your wife and children. Yeah, they have to listen to you, that's

one thing they have to do. But that means you've got about like three or four different duties to them, right, It is you having power over them. There's a lot more duties in your column to have that power than there is duties in their column. Their column is listened to you do as you say. Yours is protect, provide, lead, plan, Right, you have a lot more duties than they do. And that's what ruling. That's what leading is. It is duties, it is obligations. It's leading correctly. Being a leader is

should be an act of selflessness. Like the eagles nest that was built for Hitler's birthday, You never and he spent he was there once, right. The only person outside of that, the only house that was his or that was you know that he had built for him, was I believe for his mother or his sister. He slept on a cop, the same one that was issued to the Wehrmacht. Hitler slept on the entire length of the war. Right, so for five years, four years, the most powerful man

in Europe slept on a cop. This is a person who thought it was his personal obligation to fix the country. Right. What Hitler was doing was a selfless act. And until you understand that, understand why it is people won't love you like they love him. Right, people, The most common, the the most potent thing in this is from my mother. I have learned to be religious and bountiful and to forbear not only to do, but to intend any evil. It's about intent. You can say a lot of things.

Politicians say a lot of things to us, but we don't believe them, right. Their words are the same words as someone else. But in certain people, when they say the identical words, we believe them. Why is that if person A and person B can say the same exact words, the same exact cadence, even the same exact accent, how do we know who's telling the truth or not? We just know we can feel it in our gut, can sense their intent, And that's something that you see again

and again and again throughout the stext. It's it's intent. Anyways, That's all I've said about that. That was a lot longer of a rant than I planned.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I could add on to it, but I'll keep reading. I'm sure what I have to say well will be uh, will make sense as we move four to Rusticus. I am beholding that I first entered into the conceit that my life wanted some redressing cure, and then that I did not fall into the ambition of ordinary sophists, either to write tracts concerning the common theorems, or to exhort men into virtue and the study of philosophy by public orations.

As also that I never, by way of ostentation, did effect to show myself as active, an active, able man for any kind of bodily exercises, And that I gave over the study of rhetoric and poetry and of elegant, neat language, that it had not used to walk about the house in my long robe, nor to do any

such things. Moreover, I learned of him to write letters without any affectation or curiosity, such as that was which by him was written to my mother from sinuessa, and to be easy and ready to be reconciled and well pleased again with them that had offended me, as soon as any of them would be content to seek unto me again to read with diligence, not to rest satisfied with a light and superficial knowledge, nor quickly to assent to things commonly spoken of whom also I must think

that I ever lighted upon Epictetus his hypo nemata, or moral commentaries and common factions, which also he gave me of his own from Apollonius, true liberty and unvariable steadfastness, and not to regard anything at all, though never so little, but right and reason, and always, whether in the sharpest pains, or after the loss of a child, or in long diseases, to be still the same man, who also was a present, invisible example unto me that it was possible for the

same man to be both vehement and remiss, a man not subject to be vexed and offended with the incapacity of his scholars and auditor and auditors in his lectures and expositions, and a true pattern of a man who, of all his good gifts and faculties least esteemed himself in himself, that his excellent skill and ability to teach and persuade others the common theorems and maxims of the

Stoic philosophy of him. Also I learned how to receive favors and kindnesses, as commonly they are accounted from friends, so that I might not become obnoxious unto them for them, nor more yielding upon occasion than in right I ought, and yet so that I should not pass them neither as an unsensible and unthankful man.

Speaker 2

That's a good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that is let's stop there. Yeah, true, yeah, from Apollonius. Let me see here, Yeah, this part true liberty and unvariable steadfastness, and not to regard anything at all, though never so little, but right and reason, and always, whether in the sharpest pains, or after the loss of a child, or in long diseases, to be still the same men,

who also was a present invisible example. Unto me that it was possible for the same man to be both the vehement and remiss, a man not subject, be vexed and offended with the incapacity of his scholars and auditors in his life. How many people can can even find that strength anymore.

Speaker 2

Yeah, or be as humble as to what Rustic has taught him in the passage above. And it's all about him purposely. There's like that famous scene you know where Caesar comes in triumphant into Rome and they paint his face red and they have a servant ride in the chariot with him as he takes his triumph and whispers in his ear the entire time, you are not a god, You are not a god. He's basically doing that in

every aspect of his life. Life. He is functionally policing his humility and the where is itself terms about how to take basically how where does he say it here where he talks about reconciling.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Moreover, I learned of him to write letters without any affection or curiosity. I think you're talking about like intrigue or gossip such as that was which by him was written to my mother from Sinuessa. And to be easily and readily as are easily easy and ready to be reconciled well pleased again with them that had offended me, as soon as any of them would be contingent to seek it unto me again.

Speaker 1

That's it. That's a most people don't have the temperament and to that anymore.

Speaker 2

No, when somebody comes on the timeline, it's like, hey, I think this, this, and this, rather than congratulate and say, oh awesome, this person has changed their mind. They think like us now, Without fail, I will always see a comment and then many of them. But it's always one of the first couple ones of somebody going back on their timeline to like three or four years ago or whatever and taking a screenshot of something that they said for when they thought something different and said, oh this

you this, you bro? How the fuck is anyone supposed to change their mind? Were you born here on the far right? Like? Yes? Like did you always exist here? If no one can change their mind, how can anyone come to agree with us that doesn't always already agree with us? Right? If someone expresses your opinion, who once expressed the opposite of it, Right, why are you not reconciled and well pleased again with them? Right? This is not how men act. It's more important for people to

hold a grudge and or get a dunk in on someone. Right, then congratulate them for changing their mind and encouraging them to go further. And you know, er elatic behavior.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and I'll add real quick that we can all do this. We all fall victim to it every once in a while. You know, where have you been? You know, I was here. You know I learned about this five years ago. What took you so long? The thing is, you don't want you want to recognize when you're doing that and stop and apologize for it. And you also you also want to you don't want that to be

who you are. You guys, there are a lot of people that you can see on social media, and you know, this is something that people don't do in real life. They don't do it to people's faces. And which is why social media is such a to many because a lot of people don't even know how to talk to people in real life anymore, but they sure do think they know how to talk to people on social media.

And we all fall into it. But if this is if this is like your personality, if this is your if when people think of your account, this is the first thing they think of, Oh, this person is just going to try to own people the whole time. And you know, I mean like I had somebody reach out to me the other day and say and then I haven't contacted you in like five or six years. It

took me a long time to get here. But you know, now I'm reading you know, I'm reading Henry Ford, and I'm like, awesome, man, okay, you know, welcome, and he's like, well, he actually said, he said, let me pull this up because I really let me see where this is. This this was awesome to me, he said. He said, it took me too long, but must admit you were right about the JQ currently reading Martin Luther and Henry Ford. Apologies, my friend from my quiet skepticism. I'm retarded. And I said,

we all reach touch points at different times. It's a never ending race. There is no finish line. And he said, appreciate your grace. I appreciate your grace. That's it. That's it. The guy came and said, Maya Kulpa should have been here all along. But I mean, the only.

Speaker 2

What am I expecting you to be an assphole?

Speaker 1

Well? And and what how did it affect him by taking this long? I'm sure he was still he's still living his life, he's still loving his family, he's still taking care of his family. Now he gets to see the way the world works. Yeah, a little clearer. It just took him a little bit longer. So what.

Speaker 2

And the type of people we're trying to attract to our coalitions are going to be busy. Right. The more tools that they have at their disposal is a one to one of how much busier they are in their day to day life. Right. So, like the type of guys that you want on your side, you're going to want them to be too busy to learn all this shit.

Just drop what they're doing and learn all the shit that you don't, right, because they'll have means and tools and relationships at their disposal that they built by doing other shit than not learning about this every day. So the type of people you're going to want are going to be the type of people that take longer to

get here. I like the CEOs, the entrepreneurs, Like these people have already very stressful days and if something looks to them like a rabbit holism, that's going to be like upsetting are going to require a huge amount of mental investment, which this does. Then they're going to put that off because they have to because people depend on them to do things. So it's the people that come to this late that are going to be people that

you want to congratulate. And think about how hard that was for that person to write, because he was full well expecting you to dunk on him and talk shit. So he wrote that to you knowing, or at least he thought he knew that he was going to get nothing but scorn in return, and it was still important enough for him to tell you. I want that guy on my team. I don't want somebody that would excoriate

him or frankly, you know, be an asshole. Because that person that sent Pete that message as a bigger person then I would say most people I see. So, yeah, it took him longer to get here, he probably had shit to do.

Speaker 1

And I would much rather have him as an ally at this point in his learning stage than somebody who's known this stuff, who's been reading this stuff for ten years and is in their black pilling, you know, just negativity spewing negativity stage.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I find I find it funny that all of those people, right, the guys that are always growing about how long they've been here for and how much more they know than everybody. What's really interesting is that those are the people that can't see the ground shifting underneath them. The people that crow about how long they've been here and oh, oh you fell for it again. Ah, those are also the same people that can't see the shifting sands underneath their feet, which I find just deliciously ironic.

To steal a quote from Thomas so Pete's right, that dumb shit will blind you because all of those guys, we all know who we're talking about, there's a whole bunch of them. They can't see the change that's happening right now, and they're going to be the most surprised and the last to realize it. So what use are they then?

Speaker 1

I don't even know if they're going to be the last to realize that. I think they'll might never I think, well, I think many of them, many of them could see the destruction of their enemies and not realize it's happened, or the beginning of the destruction of their enemies, and their hatred has just blinded them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and then Jarette, who has had to do seven little videos, little table talk videos to try and convince you that he didn't kill Charlie Kirk. Does that sound like a person that's in charge to you? Does that sound like a person who has everything going according to plan? Did he plan to do all of these emergency little fireside chats?

Speaker 1

They're spending billions of dollars to buy CBS News. I mean that who watches CBS News? Yeah? Talk? What like people aren't just going to figure out ways to get around the sensors? I mean that's what isn't that?

Speaker 2

What?

Speaker 1

Like the meme wars we're all about.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's got damn Galatians. They can spend a lot of money, but they sure can't stop people from talking

about them. What's really interesting is that, like you'll watch Tucker Carlson come out and say something and then the fucking Prime Minister of Israel has to rush in front of a camera in his office, sit down to sit down in front of his desk and try and bullshit his way around something that Tucker said a media person in America and he sends it out and then some random black lady that lives in England does another video

and there it is, that fact. It's running back to his office, setting up the camera again, trying to come up with some more bullshit. That is rear guard action. That is a person who is no longer able to set the tempo of battle and is no longer able to determine the place and time of battle. That person, if we were looking at any type of conflict, that person has lost dominance over a key part of the battlefield.

Ukraine right now cannot set the tempo of battle. Ukraine right now cannot determine the time and place in which their forces fight, and that is because Russia has total air dominance over Ukraine. There is a field of battle which Ukraine can exert no control over, and that is forcing them to respond a different way that is very noticeable on the field that they can still engage in. Right Benjamin and Yahoo's behavior is a man that is

suffering from total information dominance by his enemies. He does not get to determine the time and place of battle. He's running around doing little TikTok videos trying to put out fires his enemy set whenever they decide to set them.

Not him, and none of the fucking guys that'll, you know, swagger around about how much longer they've been here and how much you need to shut the fuck up because I was hearing this, that, and the third thing, All those fagots can't even see it, but they'll tell you how much smarter than they are, they are than you, and how wrong you are because of how long they've been here. Well, have you ever seen the prime minister of a country like arguably the most evil, most powerful

guy in the world. Were you bracketing for them doing six you know, fireside chat videos about how I pinky pinky promise I didn't kill somebody in a period of less than two and a half weeks. No, they didn't because they can't physically even see when they're winning. They don't have the humility, which is I think the overarching theme of this text is thus far and self reflection. That's another thing that we see again and again and

again and again and again. It's almost like he lives in a constant state of self reflection.

Speaker 1

You know, there's there have been many times in my quote unquote it's quote unquote public life, you know, since I started podcast, since I put myself out there, that I've been wrong and had to you know, maya culpa change my mind and say, yeah, I just don't see it that way anymore. And you always get attacked for that because you know a lot of people are they seem to have to. And what's funny is it's outside

of religion, it's politics. Put themselves into this political bubble that they can never allow themselves to extricate themselves from, mostly because they've made their version of politics their morality because they don't have a morality that's based in anything other than materialism. So they have to find materialistic morality. And yeah, I'm not saying that that makes me any better than anyone else, but you know it, once you do it the first time, you realize I'm never going

to get this right. I'm never going to get it one ed to present perfect. I'm constantly going to be adjusting here and tweaking there, and you know, there may

even be some seismic shifts. You know what's funny, this is just Scott Horton and Darryl Cooper have this new podcast Provoked and they had Orn McIntyre on the last episode talking about the hit piece that reason ran on or In and mentioned Darryl in and one of the things Daryl said, And what's funny is Daryl came off even more radical in that episode than Oron because Oran's like, oh, we got to do everything within the law and Daryl's gone to defeat our enemies. And Daryl's like, He's like,

I don't know about that. But something Darryl said was he said, look, I would love to still be a libertarian.

Speaker 2

And I think.

Speaker 1

Corton asked him, you know, what do you believe now? And he's like, well, it's hard to say what you believe because things are constantly changing. When things are constantly changing, you have to change with them. You can't deal with you if you have people being killed openly for their beliefs, You're none. You're you're non aggression thing where you're like, oh, I'm not going to aggress against anybody unless they you know,

unless they aggress against me. First, well, basically there's a whole class of people out there now who are threatening to kill you if you don't agree with them. So how do you deal with that? How do you how do you put yourself into a box when things change? If you you know, let me put it this way, do.

Speaker 2

You sit by and watch everybody else get killed because they haven't aggressed on you yet?

Speaker 1

Right? Well, also, you know how about this, say you are forced to move to England and you're forced to live in London, what are you taking your political sensibilities with you? Are are you taking your ideology with you? You're talking about a completely different system of government. Now, how's that going to help you? You think you've you think you've created this political ideology that helps you get

through the American landscape in twenty twenty five. It's not the same thing as the British landscape in twenty twenty five, or the Japanese landscape in twenty twenty five, or the Indian landscape in twenty twenty five. It's here, and it's for a certain time. It's for certain you know. It's like talking about one of the things that Daryl said that you know it was, you know, just you would hope people would, especially libertarians, would hear it and a

light bulb would go off. Is this whole article was basically saying, they talk about Karl Schmidt, Carl Schmidt was a Nazi, These people are Nazis.

Speaker 2

Well to James Lindsay, write this, Yeah.

Speaker 1

Well they talk about Carl Schmidt like Carl Schmidt was writing in Vermont.

Speaker 2

That's how they Yes, I remember that. That was a really good point.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they're judging Karl Schmidt like he was living in Vermont in nineteen twenty, in nineteen thirty three. No, he was living in fucking Germany in nineteen thirty three, where there were gun battles in the streets between communists and the National Socialists, where they were literally having battles in the street. And you want to judge him, like he lived in all white Vermont in nineteen thirty three.

Speaker 2

Yeah, there were hundreds of people dying in Berlin, hundreds more dying in Munich. Like we had one guy get shot and it was a total paradigm shattering event for most of the country. Now, imagine what it's like having hundreds of people shot running gun battles in the street. Like Daryl is really, really, really really good at taking like something that would probably take me five minutes to say, and just whipping it out in a punchy sentence that

is also contextualized. He's very good at that, and I think I hope he leans into it more because I think it's one of his one of his greatest weapons in his in his toolbox that he has. For me. Oh yes, I'm a nationalist for me, I'm a globalist for you, I am pro life for me, and I am pro choice for you and so on down the line where it's like, yes, these things are index to a people, right my political I don't have any political beliefs. I don't. It is this is a core group of

people that I care about and love deeply. Yeah, is this good for them? Or is this bad for them? And that's it.

Speaker 1

That's politics. And I think something else Daryl's really good at is what we've been talking about, what we've been reading about. Because at the end of that, Horton asked Oran about the people mentioned in the in the article, like Jarvin and you're a MAZONI and Darryl and and Oran said, look, there are a lot of things I disagree with with Darryl On because I think Darryl's a bleeding heart on some things. If you look at Daryl's face, he just smiled. He just smiled a little bit, you know,

let it bother him. He's not going to take It's not like he's not going to take Oran's call. If Oron calls. It's one man's opinion, and he also knows that that man doesn't want it, doesn't want ill it, doesn't want anything bad to happen to him. He just has different opinions on him on different things, you know, on different things, but as a whole, I think Oran would rather have Darryl as a neighbor than some Antifa fuck from Portland, you.

Speaker 2

Know, yeah, a friend enemy there at that table.

Speaker 1

Yeah, a lot of our guys talk about Darryl like he's no different than than someone Antifa. They're so black and white, like he Well, he's just he's just a leftist like all the other leftists. Oh really, you're that ignorant? How'd you get this way?

Speaker 2

And now he'll take one take. Oh, he doesn't agree with me on how we structure our mass deportations. He's a leftist, Okay, but what about the other ninety nine of his beliefs? Well, yeah, it doesn't matter because he doesn't agree with me on this particular thing. Well, is that thing being discussed right now? Is that thing a possibility that's on the table right now? No, it's not so right now, he's your ally, you fucking retard.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean think about this. Would you rather live next to some libertarian that you probably agree seventy percent on? But they're a degenerate scum bag and you're going to have to deal with degenerate scumbag behavior from them as a neighbor or a Jewish banker, Jewish banker, like every day, all day, every day, every day, all day. Yeah, because this is real life. This isn't the Internet. Well, it's kind of the internet. We're recording over the internet.

Speaker 2

So yeah, you know, who's going to make my neighborhood a better place and throw a bunch of money at lawyers? Seems like that if anybody tries to make my neighborhood a bad place, that guy. But the libertarian is going to be like, oh no, well these people doing shooting things in our neighborhood, they're doing it on their property. No, the Jewish guy and me are going to team up to make sure that libertarian gets evicted. What's going to happen?

Speaker 1

You sound you sound like a traitor?

Speaker 2

Yeah, oh really, Like they have no power over any individual person. The only power.

Speaker 1

Power over the power over themselves.

Speaker 2

This is true. But because people, oh that you's gonna try and subvert you. Yeah, but I can say no, he's going to try and tell you these things and I'm going to not listen.

Speaker 1

That was another thing Orin said on the on that that was another thing that Orin said on that episode. He said that a lot of people on the right were really pissed off at me for having Urim hozony on because he was going to try to sell me on, you know, on his Zionism. You can try and sell me. I can talk to a Zionist on my show if I want to, and he can try and sell it to me. I ain't buying. It doesn't mean that I'm going to be buying. I mean, maybe you're too weak to,

you know, refuse. It's like people who don't want to hear other opinion, opinions other than their own. They don't want to read outside of whatever. It's like, you know, Christians who don't want to read the Koran because they're

scared they'll be convinced by it or something like that. Well, well you don't want to really, you don't want to read one of the most read religious technics, like they probably the second most religious, red religious text of all time and know what's in it and there's like a billion of them in the world. You don't want to know what's.

Speaker 2

That's so left, it's it's that's what the left does. I talk to our British friend about this all the time, all right. The left cannot do strategic empathy because they know that our worldview is kojin, at least subconsciously. They explain it away because as you know, our world views are old fashioned and we've disproven those ideas and moved past them. But they will resonate with you culturally or you know, basically with your soul that they also think

doesn't exist. But whatever doesn't matter. They as doctrine, refuse to engage with any of our material or ideas, even in a strategic sense. This is why they're always wrong about us, and this is why they are constantly surprised and fall flat. Is because they are not allowed, They don't allow themselves or others to read our stuff, to dialogue with us at all. And that's why they that's

why they lose, and that's why they're always wrong. So the same thing that we cry that we mock in the left, I see just as much of it, Like like in the example you just gave on the right, Oh no I can't read this text, Well, then you're never going to understand these people, and then you're going to lose. Yes, we have no discernment at times, it really frustrates me.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean it's yeah, I don't know what it is. And I'm and look, I've I'm trying to talk about things that I know, places where I've changed my mind, things, but I know I'm still wrong. I still have a bunch of things wrong that I have to work on.

I'm not perfect. I'm trying and I'm not. I hope no one thinks that by I'm talking about things that I know now, things that I've worked through, things that I've struggled with, things, things that like literally caused me loss, like not only like emotional loss, but like monetary loss in the past, by changing my mind and and and saying, you know, I was wrong here, and I really think this is this is the wrong path. I think I'm leading people down the wrong path by talking about this.

And people will be like, no, this is my religion. So you know, you're you're a heretic now, and you're you're immoral now, and you have no principles now, and you're like I literally had somebody in the comments and I didn't say anything about it because I'm I've resigned myself to ignore comments and not even really even unless somebody starts spamming. It's not even blocked during my live streams. But someone said, oh, you used to be a libertarian,

now you're a neocon. How do I argue? How what am I to argue?

Speaker 2

Am I supposed to?

Speaker 1

Am I supposed to argue? There? You know, it's like, I mean, I'm sorry that I offended your religion. But you have to understand what Stormy said. There is political ideology, is it's fleeting. I mean it never you know, Sam Francis said, it just never manifests itself. You know, it's channeling James Burnham from from Uh was it Suicide of the West? I think that's what it was. Yet, Yeah, suicide of the West where he says, yeah, political ideology

is great until it gets introduced to the air. As soon as it gets introduced to reality, it you know, it's like like Mike Tyson said, everyone's got a plan when they come in the ring with me until they get punched in the mouth. Then they're playing. Yeah, that's political ideology. The only political ideology is what is good for me and my people? Is this good for me

and my people? If it's not, we need to change it or we need to fight again instead if you get to the point where you can take power and you can get your people in power, and maybe you can start from a legitimate standpoint trying to shape shape policy, or shape things in your area that lend itself to

your people. You know, one of the most important things I heard, you know a long time ago, was the way America was set up in the beginning, was it was set up so that white Europeans, you know, mostly Northern Europeans and Wasps and Scotch Irish and people can thrive in As soon as you introduce a group of people into that that can't thrive in that environment, one

of two things is going to happen. Either they're going to fail miserably and it's best for them to leave, or somebody's going to come up with the idea that what you built for the people who found it, it needs to be changed so that it's easier for these people. And as soon as you change it for those people now the founding stock, it's harder for them to operate

in it. Now it doesn't benefit them anymore. And what should happen is wherever these people are coming from, even if you need to help them, if you feel like you need to help them if you're some kind of you know, Captain Sava Hooe with frigging an African nation or something like that, figure out a way to design a system that they can benefit from. Help them do that if you feel like you're an Albert Schweitzer or something like that, because they're not going to be able

to thrive in this system. They need to find their own system. And there needs to be multiple systems for multiple people and multiple cultures and multiple not every That's why when people say, oh, capitalism is the greatest for who? Who is capitalism for what? Somalia? For average sixty three you know, sixty five IQ country, And that doesn't work. Capitalism doesn't It doesn't even really work for what we

have now. Capitalism really didn't work for I mean once you got very much past the founding because capitalism more whatever you were calling capitalism and be getting morphed into something else, and whatever it morphed into was not conducive to the actions and the beliefs of the founding stock. So if you're not willing, if you're not willing to look at politics in way of how does this benefit my people and be willing to say, and those people over there, I don't hate them, but they need to

figure out whatever system works best to benefit them. In Singapore, the best way it benefits them is to have a system of authoritarianism, because that's what they need. But they also have a very open economy. Somebody told me that you can like pass through the airport and go to a bank in the airport and not even be from there and open a bank account and deposit.

Speaker 2

Money, not even leave the international terminal. Your passport never even gets stamped.

Speaker 1

Yeah, So they have this open economy and it works for them because the people get along. Well why do they get along? Because if they don't get along, there's consequences. That's the way it needs to be in some places. I don't know all I know. The only question I'm asking is what's best for my people and people who think like I do.

Speaker 2

Yeah, And to sirt back on the difference in beliefs, basically creating strife that there's no coalition building happening or just a circular firing squad. I want to remind everybody that there is no set of beliefs on the right right now, and this is actually a huge problem for us strategically, all right, I can pull one hundred right wingers and say, okay, can you describe to me what it looks like when we win? And I'll get a

hundred different answers, monarchists, Christian nationalists, wig nats. And it's going to stay that way for forever until we learn to do what Pete is describing. And this is everyone's like, oh well, we need, you know, right wing billionaires to fund all these things. Okay, why the fuss did they do that? You can't even convince them what it looks like when they win.

Speaker 1

I say that often.

Speaker 2

Sorry, but unless we can agree upon what it looks like when we win, they can't make that investment because you can't tell them how it will benefit them or how it will protect them. Everybody, And like, Pete, you know this because I think, as I probably chimped out to you privately, Darryl and I disagree on something. I don't even know if he still even has that opinion or whatever, but there's an opinion that he had that

kind of cut me. But below the quick I don't know if that's a term people still use anymore, but it got under my seat. It happened to hit like all of my sensitivity buttons, and I will still champion his stuff. He is brilliant and he's doing fantastic work. And I will never say I won't even air our disagreement. I won't tell anybody what we disagree about. That's for me and him to talk and we sit down privately

and we can actually discuss that. But he's on my side and I'm on his side, just like Oran is on Darryl's side, and Darryl's on Orn's side even though they disagree, because they can prioritize things. Daryl knows that having a neighborhood full of Orans is great, and Oron

knows having a neighborhood full of Daryl's is great. Daryl knows having a government full of Orans is great, and Oran knows that having a government full of Daryl's is great, and that whatever the thing that they don't agree on doesn't fucking matter. And I think we need to luck. I think we need to do that at scale. I think that basically what we saw on that episode of What's it Called? I always forget the name. It's like, oh,

it's a one word name. Provoked, provoked. There we go what happened on that show in real time is something that we need to be doing all the time, because it's only when we can do that that we can eventually settle on a cohesive picture of this is what is attainable in the short term, this is what is attainable in the long term, This is how we structure things after that. Now you can paint a worldview that

you can sell people with money on. The One thing about the left is if you ask them roughly what it looks like when they win, they have enough slogans memorized where they can most of the time convince you

that they're in agreement on this. And that's what gives people the ability to donate tons of money to them, because they can paint a picture about what that money is going to be used for and how great it's going to be for the person that's giving that money and for the people receiving that money when they win. And that's why they get money to win, and that's why we don't A billionaire will never not be an

investor no matter what. Like they have a million people pitching them a million ideas all the time, and you need to be able to paint a picture of what it looks like in the future to pitch, like, what are you pitching? And I think the more serious people in our in our thing, Pete, I think we're doing that.

And I think the people that don't want to do that are gonna whether they know it or not, or whether they do it with intent or not, are going to find themselves not in the mechanisms of what's going to happen next.

Speaker 1

Well, they'll benefit from what happens next to be bitter about it. Yeah, yeah, they'll never say thank you. And so those who came up with the ideas and everything, and you know, and really, I I think everybody knows. I'm not the not a big fan of Ronald Reagan, especially the amnesty and the making machine making machine guns go from seven hundred dollars to thirty thousand dollars for a cheat. Yeah. Yeah, but he did say, you know, it's amazing what you can what you can achieve and

get done if no one wants to credit for it. Yeah, And that's something I think that's really important, because that's not I mean that there are things that I've done and people I know have done and no one knows that they did it, yet a lot of people celebrated it, and to I think part of the reason it got done is because no one everybody was like, we don't need credit for it, just get it done. And you know, if you get credit for something, puts a bull's eye

on the next thing. If you're like, yeah, I did this, puts bulls eye on you the next time you try to do something. So you know, humility is Humility is important. And I think that you know what we see and you and I have talked about this before that a lot of the people out there who are quote unquote content creators, really they just want credit for being right. I was right about this. I was right about that. See how I predicted this? Now, what did their prediction?

How did their predictions change your life? Well? I knew this was going to happen, okay, so how did you benefit from that? Did you short of stock? Did you buy a stock? Did? What'd you do? Well? I knew. I get to brag about the fact that I watched the guy who told me this, and I told my friends and I was right.

Speaker 2

Can you pay your mortgage with it?

Speaker 1

Quite the accomplishment? Quite the accomplishment. But no, you know what though that content creator they could pay their mortgage with it, What did you get from it?

Speaker 2

Astro makes a really good point about this, like basically like if you're on the right and you're in a non you may think you deserve credit or whatever, but you actually don't. You're in a non so people can take your ideas and run with them and dumb them down and not say them as good as you or whatever. Right, by being in a no on, you're making that tacit agreement that I don't care if I get credit or not. I just want to win. And I think we forget that a lot. And the more you win, the less

people will have to be ann. I think as things progress, none of us will be. But that only happens if we win. Right, Why do we want to win? Is it because of how it will benefit us? And this is another thing about being ordered internally. One thing you could tell almost immediately about Marcus Aurelius, and this is another thing, is correct me if I'm wrong, Pete. But

the meditations were never published. They were just his internal notes, and I'm sure like if you found out that they did publish, he'd be probably mortified.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, these this was like a diary of his and yeah, probably closest to a diary and stuff he wrote down for himself, and it was never meant to be in the public.

Speaker 2

So he is self reflecting daily to himself. No one's ever going to read this, right, he is centering himself every day. And this is a man. How did Yaki say it? No one will die for an idea, but a few men will die for an ideal, or a few great men will die for an ideal. There is a thing inside of Marcus Aurelius that is driving him from his soul, not from his spirit or his body. Right, the ego is a separate thing from the human soul. Right, The thoughts in your head, you know, the feelings like

these are all separate. And you know they're separate because when a baby is born, it doesn't have any of that shit yet. It has no opinions, It has no beliefs, it has no opinions of others, no thoughts, it's just awareness. It's just soul and body. And that's where an ideal comes from. It is a layer deeper than the conscious mind.

The conscious mind wants recognition, the constant mind wants status because the constant mind can think about the not just mine, can think about how that status will benefit them, or how that credit will benefit them. And what you see him doing by reflecting again and again and again throughout his life, you can see him pushing that aside, that

conscious mind aside. And what matters to my soul well, that these people flourish, that no evil is done to them, that they have the means as God intended to self actualize, to be the best versions of themselves. None of those things benefit him. He's not going to wear fancier robes.

He's not going to get fancier robes. As you say here, To not busy myself with vain things, and to not easily believe those things which are commonly spoken by such as take upon them to mark wonders by sorcerers or prestidigitators or impostors concerning the power of charms and the driving out of demons or evil spirits, and the like. To not keep quails for the game, to not be mad at such things, or be offended by another man's

liberty of speech. I'm sorry I grabbed the wrong paragraph, and then I did not fall into the ambition of ordinary sophists, either to write tracts concerning the common theorems, or to exhort men unto virtue in the study of philosophy by basically grandstanding by public ortions. As also that I never, by way of ostentation, did affect to show myself an active, able man for any kind of bodily exercises. Marcus Aurelius mogged no one. He showed off. Never, This

is what he's saying. I have never, by way of ostentation, what is ostentatiousness, did affect the show of myself to be an active and able man in any kind of bodily exercises. And that I gave over the study of rhetoric and poetry and of elegant, neat language by basically speaking frankly, that I did not use the walk about the house in my long robes, nor to do any such thing. Moreover, I learned of him to write letters

without any affectation or intrigue in gossip. Right, he's basically telling you that the things he does that Rusticus taught him right is to not flatter himself, to not show off, to not seek, more importantly, to not seek the status giving of others to not seek the recognition of others. And this circles all the way back to what his mother taught him, and of my mother, I have learned to be religious and bountiful and to forbear not only

to do, but to intend any evil intent. So why is he not fall into ambition of ordinary sophists or to grandstand with large public orations to show how virtuous he is and how philosophically intelligent he is, or by way of ostentation, did affect the show of myself as an active, able bodied man for any other kind of exercise, or basically stroke himself being a word sell doing poetry and talking in neat, flowery language, or prance around his

house in his nicest gear. Because that means when he does do exercise right, when he does do oration right, or write tracts of theorems, or when he exerts exhorts men to virtue and study, the intent behind those actions is not for his own benefit. The intention matters. And that's why I say like it's it's a it's some things that you would read like mystical texts about why you do something right, and in that like reality isn't

what you think it is series we did Pete. We talked about like consciousness being able to affect random number generators, and they also did that test on money, right, So why you do things matters? Right? So God has built right and wrong into the universe. It's built into the

fundamental framework right that undergirds are reality. So one of the tests that Rupert Scheldric and Dean Rayden did was basically they had people concentrate on a certain dollar amount, right, and then they kept track of them and to see if they would buy any instance this money would fall into their lap through unexpected means that they did not initiate. And you can measure whether something is statistically significant or not right by basically how many how many degrees from random?

Is it like total randomness like winning a lottery ticket for instance. And what they found is okay to give a really dumb down example, when a person, let's say, wishes for not wishes, but just focus their consciousness on one hundred thousand dollars just dropping in their mailbox, the chances of that actually happening to that person were less than random, as in, one hundred thousand dollars will land in the mailbox of somebody not even thinking about it

sooner than it would the guy that is. That's funny. But what's even more interesting is, let's say the guy who's thinking about one hundred thousand dollars landing in the mailbox of his next door neighbor, right because his next door neighbor has cancer and the chemotherapy costs are eating through all of his neighbor's savings. And now his neighbor's about to lose his house because he was one hundred thousand dollars on his house and it's going to get

foreclosed on. Those people that wanted that thought about having one hundred thousand dollars land in their neighbors mailbox. Again, I'm dumbing down, and you know, taking liberties with the experiment and had nothing to do with mailboxes or one

hundred thousand dollars checks. The chances of one hundred thousand dollars landing in that person's neighbor's mailbox was not only more statistically significant, actually statistically significant so enough multiples above absolute randomness to where it is signaling that something else is happening. Right. So let's say if the landing in your your mailbox was negative, I don't know five percent, right, random person mailbox zero percent, So total randomness landing in

the cancer neighbors mailbox ten percent. So you've increased the chances of some random event happening from zero to ten percent because the action, the intent behind it was selfless. And they've proved this a bunch of different ways. So that means the intention in which you do in action affects the success of that action. So a leader that is acting out of selflessness, right, the thing that motivates him is not himself or his own self benefit, that

person is going to be more successful. Random chance is going to break his direction far more than the leader that is doing any such action for his own personal benefit. So God has written morality and virtue into the very

fabric of the universe. Right, there is no randomness. Randomness is something that is affected by our virtue and why we do things matters, And this is you'd only you would only are the only places you pick this up or in like you know, like a cult, mystic traditions or whatever that the intent in which something is done, or as a Christian in whose name something is done will affect the outcome. So are you acting selfishly or selflessly. Are you doing it in Christ's name or are in

your own? Who has the power? Here? Is it you that is making that check hit that mailbox? Or is it God? It's God, all right? So humility and selflessness are very important. So I find that really interesting that the overall theme in his governance and the way he acts in the world is entirely selfless. And he is constantly policing his own mind and reinforcing this again and again and again, so much so that he meditates on it daily. He takes credit for none of his positive attributes.

He is going through and enumerting all of the good things about him. Even his own virtue he does not take credit for because they're not his. They were given to him by something out with someone else. So even the best things about himself he will not attribute to his inate ability or his innate virtue. Marcus, why are you so kind? Oh? I'm not kind. I was shown this kind as how to be kind by this other person. So even in attributing his own virtues, there is selflessness.

Like the order of this person's internal state is I think what people should be focusing on.

Speaker 1

Sorry, right there, that's where we're gonna end it. I don't think we need to even come back to this. I think even just the first five, five or six that we we talked about should be enough to keep people. You help people to think in a different way, you know.

Speaker 2

I mean, it's not very fun to read.

Speaker 1

It's not fun to read. And well, yeah, because self examination is hard. Just just ask a certain group of people. It's who it's impossible for.

Speaker 2

The vampire can't see his reflection. We were told.

Speaker 1

Yes, but the yeah, I mean, I I hope nobody comes away from this thinking we think we're perfect. I mean we I think we both know that we're works and were works in process, and that the you know, we'll change our mind on things when we get more information. But knowing that you've made mistakes in the past, being able to admit them and even be able to explain why they were mistakes and why you change your mind, I think is h is very important. And to to

talk about it publicly. You know, it doesn't always seem to be the you know, something that people want to do. But you know, I have no problem with it because if my even from a personal standpoint, a if you don't want to get involved in politics. You don't want to be public about anything that you believe if anything can help you just to thrive in your personal life. Yeah, I'll uh, I'll put a little bit of myself out there to see if it to see if it helps.

Speaker 2

Yeah, this, this text is going to get really thick and not as cleanly broken up as I think the other ones are going to be. So yeah, maybe like if we we don't have to touch on this again, or if we have to do one more about like other stuff, then yeah, because I think this is also something that somebody should read to themselves and work on. Like I think you're going to read meditations. Yeah, you should read it many times.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's not long at all. I mean you got when you go to the twelfth book, you're only on one hundred and thirty ninth page in this pdf, so I mean you're talking about one hundred and twenty pages basically. So yeah, alright, Stormy, have a good.

Speaker 2

Name, my friend. I will talk to you later.

Speaker 1

Take careme right, right,

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