Welcome back to The Path Went Chile for part two of our series about the disappearance of Trevor Deely. Robin, do you want to catch everyone up and what we talked about in our previous episode. Well, I believe this is the first case we've ever covered on The Path Went Chile which took place in Ireland, and it's probably the most famous missing person's case in the history of
that country. Trevor Deely was twenty two years old and he worked as an IT specialist at the Bank of Ireland to Asset Management headquarters in Dublin, and on the evening of December the seventh, two thousand, he went out to a Christmas party with his coworkers, which involved doing a lot of drinking and
hopping back and forth between different places. But because there was a taxi strike going on in Dublin at that time and it was pouring rain, after the party ended, Trevor decided to walk to the Bank of Ireland Asset Management headquarters in order to pick up an umbrella for his walk back to his apartment, and even though it was three point thirty in the morning, one of his
coworkers led him inside. He took the umbrella and then started walking back home, but he never made it to his apartment and it would be an entire weekend before anyone even noticed that he was missing. And the two clues they
had is when they looked at CCTV footage of Trevor's last known movements. At three point thirty when he first arrived at his workplace, there was a man standing outside the gates who was known as the Man in Black, who briefly chatted with Trevor before he went inside before he walked out of the frame, and the last known footage of Trevor was at four to fourteen am where he was passing buy a camera at an ATM, But after that he just seemed
to vanish without a trace and probably never made it back to his apartment. For years, the biggest lead was a man that was known as the second Man in Black, who was seen passing by the ATM camera about thirty seconds
after Trevor did so. They wondered if he might have been involved in his disappearance, But only a few weeks before we recorded this, they finally tracked this Man in Black down, interviewed him and rule him out as having any involvement in Trevor's disappearance twenty seventeen, an informant came forward who said that Trevor had cross passed with some criminal figures on his walk home, who proceeded to take him back to their apartment to shoot him and then bury his body in
a local park. But they performed a search of it and never found his remains or any other evidence to support his story. So we're right back to square one. Trevor has been missing for twenty three years and seemed like he literally just vanished into thin air, and no one still has any idea what
actually happened to him. So before we do any further analysis of Trevor's disappearance, I wanted to take a few moments to discuss the vacation that Trevor took during November of two thousand, which involved traveling to Alaska for several weeks. One of his primary reasons for selecting this destination was to visit a girl who lived in Anchorage, as the two of them had previously met during a trip
she took to Ireland. In one particularly heartbreaking interview, Trevor's father, Michael Dealey, described how when he last saw his son Trevor was so excited to tell him all about his trip to Alaska, but since Michael was in a rush at that time and had to leave, he told his son to tell him all about the trip at Christmas. Of course, Trevor went missing before Christmas, so Michael has always been regretful for blowing him off like that,
and he always breaks down whenever he shares this story. The details about Trevor's relationship with this girl from Anchorage are vague, but the story goes that she had told him she was going to be very busy during his trip and tried to dissuade him from visiting her wherever. Trevor still traveled to Anchorage anyway, and she apparently gave him a rather chilli reception when he showed up. Since Trevor happened to go missing only two days after he returned home, there has
been speculation that the Alaska trip might somehow be connected to his disappearance. What I've find really interesting is that Trevor appears incredibly excited and happy to tell his dad how the trip went. So even if the girl had been hesitant and she gave him a pretty chilly reception, was it a chili reception the entire time. Could he have possibly met other people who made the trip worthwhile? I mean, if he was happy, it sounds like he didn't go there
and have someone mistreat him. Yeah, That's what I think as well, is that even though Trevor's time with the girl did not go as well as he hoped, the reaction story told by his father made it sound that Trevor enjoyed the majority of the trip of Alaska. So I don't think being kind of turned down by this girl would have made him depressed enough in order to like take his own life or maybe run away voluntarily. So this might have
no connection to his disappearance. And it sounds unlikely that anybody is going to cross oceans in order to come after Trevor with regards to maybe like pursuing their quote unquote woman or whatever. It just seems like if something bad was going to happen to him in relation to the potential relationship or entanglement with the woman, that it would have happened while he was in Alaska. I know.
The GUARDI explored the possibility that Trevor might have disappeared voluntarily because he wanted to go back to the US or something. They even traveled to Alaska to interview the girl that Trevor saw, but it doesn't sound like she had any relevant information. Investigators were able to confirm that Trevor never traveled to the US or any other country, as his passport was found inside his apartment and his bank
account had not been touched since the night that he went missing. The main reason we bring up the Alaska trip is because it's been theorized that Trevor may have become depressed over the fact that his encounter with this girl hadn't gone as well as he had hoped, and he decided to take his own life upon returning home. Sure, his body was never found, but what if he jumped into the Grand Canal and his body was just missed during the searches.
While it sounds like the suicide theory has pretty much been dismissed, the last time Trevor saw his father, he told him how marvelous a trip to Alaska had been and showed no visible signs of being depressed. Yes, it's true that suicidal people sometimes disguise their pain so that everyone is taken by complete surprise when they take their own life, but if Trevor was planning to complete suicide, it seems awfully strange that he would take an extra trip back to his
workplace in order to grab an umbrella. I don't think a person who was planning to jump into a body of water and around themselves would be all that concerned about getting wet from the rain, and minutes before he disappeared, Trevor had also left a quick voicemail for his friend, letting him know that they should get together that weekend. There really were no warning signs that Trevor was feeling suicidal, and his family have openly stated that they believe the whole Alaska
trip was nothing more than a red herring. I don't think you would have seen him making plans with a friend, immediate plans with a friend. It's not like, yeah, one day, we should catch up buddy. You know, he's actually initiating a call saying we should hang out. And so I don't see there being a real indication of knowing you're going to exit this world and then making immediate plans with a friend. I also think if he was going to jump into this river, that he would have left behind evidence.
There'd be the umbrella washing up on some shore, there'd be his clothing. Even if his body had disintegrated, there'd be other things that had happened where you would say there's some remnants of him. I mean there were large That umbrella had to be a large umbrella. I just feel like something would have been found. But don't you feel like with regards to say clothing,
washing up, or shoes or something related to him. Just as we talked about the cell phone earlier, you have to have the right person happen upon items like that for them to go and alert the authorities. You could have somebody who just goes, oh, there's a pair of pants, I'm going to take those, or they might pay it no mind, or they may
just throw it in the garbage and think that it's trash. Because there's areas around where I live in it's a really nice area, but there's an area near Science World here and I used to take my dog down there and there would often be clothing items down there, and I certainly wasn't calling the authorities. I knew that it was sometimes a place where homeless people would go,
or people would go and they would do drugs. So you just had to be very careful about the areas that we were going, but there was often things like that left about. So it just takes the right p person finding those types of items and seeing the significance behind them in order for them to
actually find the evidence and give it the attention that it deserves. And we also mentioned in our last episode that President Bill Clinton was planning to make a trip to Dublin shortly after Trevor went missing, and they did a big security sweep of the area. And I'm thinking that if say an American Secret Service agent found a cell phone or an umbrella or a piece of clothing, they would probably just kind of ignore it and discard it. They would be like,
we're not here to investigate a missing person's case. We're here to make things secure for the president. So it does make me wonder perhaps if they did find some evidence but just didn't see the significance of it. I think if they found a cell phone, they might keep that or see that maybe there could be some significance, don't you think. Oh yeah, probably with the cell phone they would just at least find it was belonged to, But
something like an umbrella or clothing they might just ignore. So now let's explore the possibility that Trevor's death was an accident and that he might have fallen into the Grand Canna, the River Dodd, or some other body of water on his route home and his body has just never been recovered. He was a bit drunk at the time, though not so intoxicated that he was incapable of
walking home. One theory is that since Trevor was carrying a large umbrella, a strong gust of wind could have propelled him off the bridge into the water well. The GUARDI seemed pretty convinced that Trevor did not drown, though that doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't have missed his body. But another issue is that
Trevor's umbrella was never recovered either. Since it was pretty large, you'd think it would have turned up eventually, though I guess a possible explanation, which I just mentioned, is that an umbrella could have been found during the security sweep that was done over the weekend to prepare for President Clinton's upcoming visit to Dublin. Since Trevor had not been reported missing yet, they may not have realized the umbrella significance and discarded it. That's true, I mean the way
Jules described it too. I mean it almost seems like a nuisance and trash litter at that point, when you have things that have just been discarded. There were rainstorms, and you know you'd think, Wow, some somebody either forgot or left their umbrella. I'm throwing that away to create a clean street when the president arrives. So you do have to have the right mindset, Jules, you're a true crime podcaster. You should be questioning every piece of
clothing you come across. I know, it's just unfortunate that there's a strange kind of intersection between individuals with substance use disorders and then this really nice area where people like to take their dogs, and so people discard lots of strange things there. And initially I used to think it was weird, but now I like, I just don't pay at any mind. So if I came across actual evidence in that area of somebody who'd been abducted and their clothing was
left there, I would completely disregard it. So I guess I just don't have the right mind right. As you might recall, Trevor's sister, Michelle, attempted to call his cell phone multiple times after he went missing. While Michelle can't recall this with one hundred percent certainty, she seems to remember that Trevor's phone did ring over the course of the weekend and did not go straight
to voicemail until Monday the eleventh. On the surface, this would seem to indicate that the phone was functional till then, and might rule out the possibility that Trevor fell into some water. During an article about this case in the Irish Times, one communication specialist stated that Trevor's mobile phone would certainly have gone dead if this had happened. In his own words, quote, if the phone was on when it went in the water, it would be dead in
seconds. The radio signals would not penetrate more than a few inches of water, so it couldn't ring. End quote. Of course, that might not apply to all cell phones today, but this was the year two thousand. It's worth noting that the Dailey family was unhappy that the Guardie did not attempt to do more to locate or pinpoint Trevor's phone through its network. But whatever happened to his phone, I'm still confident in believing that Trevor did not die
in an accidental drowning. I definitely don't think it was a drowning either. I think that someone most likely intercepted him after he passed that ATM machine, after we see him crossing that bridge, and right before he's able to get to his apartment. It almost feels as though, in this heavy downpour, someone could have easily said, there's this guy walking. He looks young, he looks kind of naive, like he'd be invincible and he would take risk.
Let's pull over and ask if he wants a ride. That's kind of where I'm leaning. I don't know why, I don't know what they would have wanted with him, but it seems like he didn't make it to the apartment, and I don't think that was on his own accord. I agree with you. I just think, like all traces have been prescribed, we've
got no evidence. So what is the most likely scenario That somebody offered him a ride during a taxi strike during a downpour like four in the morning, and he's most likely when to say yes, as long as they don't seem scary. What they wanted with him and what their objective was is a little bit muddy for me. I mean, were they trying to rob him. Was this sexually based? Was this just someone who was looking for a thrill kill. I'm a little confused as to what the motive could have potentially been,
but there's just, again, so many hidden variables here. Another theory which has been pushed forward is that Trevor was the victim of a hit and run accident and whoever was responsible drove his body away from the scene and disposed
of it somewhere else. That's certainly not implausible, as the lousy weather conditions that night could have caused poor visibility for drivers, and because of the taxi strike going on at that time, some intoxicated motorists might have felt more compelled to be on the road that night, so it's easy to see how an
accident like this could happen. Some people have ruled out the hit and run theory because no physical evidence was found in the area to support it, such as debris from a vehicle, But remember it was a rainy night, Trevor was not reported missing for three days, and the entire area was swept over in preparation for President Clinton's visit. If there was evidence of a hit and run accident, it could have easily been disposed of without anyone realizing it.
So I wouldn't completely rule out the idea of a hit and run. And think about what time it was. I mean it's past four o'clock in the morning. I mean drinking is a massive sport in Ireland, and so you could have people who were intoxicated behind the wheel on a rainy night, and someone who's walking and crossing the street, maybe on his phone, not paying attention. I could see where it's a potential that he was hit by a
car. I think the biggest issue with this case is that while we can pinpoint the last sighting of Trevor on the CCTV footage, we can't pinpoint the exact time he disappeared. Since he was not actually reported missing until Monday, you can't rule out the possibility that Trevor could have made it safely back to his apartment and something happened to him on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday.
Granted, since Trevor was known for being a reliable employee and did not show up for his scheduled shift on Friday, it seems most likely that something occurred before then. Now you might assume that if Trevor made it to his apartment, he would have shown up on some other CCTV footage. But here's the
thing. The footage of him at the ATM was originally acquired by some of Trevor's friends and not the Guardye. The Guardie were not happy about this, but it was standard policy for that particular bank to wipe all their CCTV footage after the twenty eight days had passed, So if Trevor's friends had not acquired it in the nick of time, the footage might have been lost forever.
So I can't help but wonder if Trevor might have shown up on some other CCTV footage from that area, which wound up being erased before anyone had a chance to see it. However, I'm inclined to think that Trevor never made it back to his apartment and something happened to him after he passed the ATM
camera. Here's why I don't think he made it home. I think that the moment you are notified that this kid went to a Christmas party at his place of employment or I mean with his colleagues, that he visited his place of employment that he's seen on closed circuit TV. I think that you say, what was he wearing the last time he was seen, and there would be that description. Well, he was wearing a red plaid shirt and a green Christmas tie, or an ugly sweater or a black jacket. Right,
there'd be a description of what he was wearing. So by the time you put together the pieces of that night and he's caught in a downpour. Had he gone home Friday night and even left shortly after he arrived home, he would have changed out of those wet, damp clothes. He would have put them in the dirty clothes, he would have put them in the washing machine. He would have put them on his bed something. And there is no
report that the clothes he was wearing at the Christmas party wherever found. I mean, that would be the first thing as an investigator, I asked, what was he wearing at the party? I'm going to his apartment and I'm finding those clothes that would show me he got there. If they didn't do that, holy cow, shame on them. So to me, it rules out the idea that he could have made it home. Someone would have said the outfit he wore at our Christmas party was in his apartment, which means
he made it just to play Devil's advocate. And I actually agree with you. I don't think he made it home but just to play Devil's advocate. What if he wore like a really basic outfit, like black pants and a white shirt, and he did make it home, and he was home for multiple days, so he managed to wash those clothes and then hang them back up, and he had multiple white shirts and multiple pairs of black pants.
You wouldn't be able to identify necessarily the outfit that he would have been wearing to the Christmas party unless there was something super specific and he didn't have other clothing like that, because like I have eight million pairs of black pants and white shirts, so you would never know what is missing if that was like
one outfit from my closet. I actually went and looked up what he was wearing on the night he disappeared, and it's described as a mustard and brown checkered shirt, a baite gray quarter, so that is kind of more distinctive. Yes, beige gray corduroy flair trousers and dark deck shoes with white stripes, and also a green padded jacket. And I'm assuming they never found the
jacket. That sounds pretty detailed, so and that if he had arrived at the apartment and left his phone accord, he probably would have taken the jacket with him. But sadly he was not wearing a red Christmas sweater attacking Christmas sweader like Ashley said, but still his clothing was a bit more distinctive than
usual. So we mentioned in our last episode that the man in black who was seen walking past the ATM at four fourteen am has recently been identified and ruled out as a suspect, but there was also a CCTV footage of a second man in black seen hanging around outside the BIAM headquarters earlier that night, and investigat confirmed that he is not the same person and has still not been identified to recap cameras captured this man hanging around the rear gate of the BAM
headquarters in the exact same spot, next to a pillar for about half an hour before Trevor showed up there at three thirty four am. And I have no idea what would compel someone to stand there that long in such miserable rainy weather without shelter. At three o'clock in the morning. I can't be one under percent certain, but I'm assuming that Trevor might have been the first person to pass this guy during the entire half hour period he was there, because
he immediately followed Trevor and conversed with him outside the other rear gate. If he was a homeless person, this exchange could have been as simple as him asking Trevor for some money or a smoke or something. But I doubt the conversation was anything memorable, since Trevor didn't feel the need to mention it when
he spoke with Carl Pender a few minutes later. After waiting at that location for so long, you'd almost think the man in black was waiting for an opportunity to enter BIM headquarters, But when Trevor unlocked the gate and walked inside, the man didn't do anything. It seems unlikely that he was specifically waiting there for Trevor, because there's no way he could have anticipated that Trevor would decide to walk from the nightclub to his workplace at that time of night.
So, regardless of whether or not this man is connected Trevor's disappearance, his presence outside BIM Headquarters is a bit of a mystery in itself, that is a mystery. But I do think once the police confirmed that the man who was dressed in black that passed behind Trevor at the ATM machine thirty seconds after Trevor passes, when they determined that that was not the same man in black who was waiting outside the gates of Biam, I really kind of lost interest
in this person being the suspect in his disappearance. Now it would it be interesting to talk to him to see what he knew. Absolutely, anyone who could have seen Trevor that night needs to be spoken to. But I think think it's more likely that this is, like you said, someone who might have had an addiction issue, that might have been homeless, that might have been waiting for a ride because of the taxi strikes, and maybe he was saying, hey, man, is there anywhere I can duck in to wait
for someone? And he's gone, no, man, there's you know this is a secure building. You can't come in here. Okay, thanks buddy. Hey you got a smoke? I can bumb Okay, thanks buddy.
It doesn't seem like there was a very exciting interchange between the two or, like you said, Trevor Mudd if said something when he went in to talk to his colleague, And is it possible that this guy who's waiting there, who's just kind of lingering or lurking, that he could have been a pim Because we mentioned that there was a lot of sex work in the area and drugs, So is it possible that he could have had one of the potential women that he managed or whatever he did, and they were with a client
or something like that, And so that's why he was out at that odd hour, and that's why he was just kind of waiting in the area,
maybe waiting for her to come back. Yeah, that's certainly possible. And I don't think he would have said something like, hey, man, you interested in a girl or something, because at twenty two, I think Trevor would have run in and told his buddy like, oh my god, right, Trevor's been drinking, so you know, you'd be like, I just got offered sex by you know, this guy for this much money or something like that. So I don't think that it would have been something profound that
he mentioned to him. Could that have been his trade and he was just asking Trevor for a smoke for sure, but I don't. I definitely don't think he was trying to get Trevor to engage in his business endeavors because we have to remember, too, the sex work industry was entirely different in two thousand. It wasn't online like it is now. I'm sure there was some of it online, but it was a different beast and a lot of it
was done like on street level. So, especially for survival sex workers at that time, I'm sure in Dublin you are going to be going out and you're going to be getting that money because you likely have an addiction to feed or a family or whatever the situation is. Is a choice to be out at that time, but it's not really a choice. So I mean, I just can't really think of a lot of other reasons, aside from homelessness or illegal activities, that somebody would be sitting or waiting in that area for
so long. But they had a cell phone in two thousand, so that leads me away from them being homeless, because not everybody had a cell phone in two thousand. I also think this is a good opportunity to clear up a misconception which has been shared about this case. If you search on YouTube, you'll find footage of two other men besides a man in black, who show up in the CCTV footage by the rear gate at three point thirty seven
am. It turned out that those two men in the footage were coworkers of Trevor's who worked at BIAM headquarters, and they were identified in question by investigators, who concluded that they had no useful information to offer. Well. Several years ago, this case was profiled on an episode of the British true crime
series mcinty Are Unsolved. Some confusion ensued because when the episode presented CCTV footage of what was supposed to be Trevor standing outside the gate with the man in black, they mistakenly showed the footage of Trevor's co workers standing there at three thirty seven am. So of course people started wondering who were these other guys standing outside the gate until the guard he clarified that they were BIAM employees and
had no involvement in Trevor's disappearance. But I do find it odd that there isn't more information out there about the co workers. Since they stood right next to the man in black, you'd hope they might have been able to provide investigators with a more detailed description of him, but apparently not. But the main reason we mentioned these two guys is because I wonder if their appearance was what prompted the man in black to finally walk away, as he was no
longer present when Trevor left the building at four h two am. Well, we also have to remember too, like what if these employees were like out, taken a smoke break or something like that, But it's poor rain, so they'd have to be crouched under some awning or something to that effect. It's very bizarre that anyone would be outside at this hour of night in the rain, So these had to be pretty quick interactions like you'd see them.
Yes, but are is anything profound happening in those moments? I'd be very shocked if someone told me, yes, that there's any significance to any of
the kind of movement that's quickly happening around that area. Well. I have seen some pretty wild theories put forward and online discussions about this case, how Trevor's disappearance might have been connected to his job at the bank, and that the man in black was scouting the bank to plan some sort of heist and these other two coworkers were in on it, and then they went after Trevor and abducted him to try to get it information so they could perpetuate a heist.
But that just seems ridiculous and over the top, because, like we said, there's no way they could have predicted Trevor would even been there, and if this was a heist, it seemed to be the laziest ice plan I've ever seen. So for years, the people always debated about whether the man outside BIAM and the man who walked past the ATM camera were one and the same, But we now know for certain that's not the case. But
could the first man in black still be involved in Trevor's disappearance. I guess you could surmise that after he disappeared from the CCTV footage outside BIM headquarters, the man in black stayed out of camera range to keep an eye on the gate, and when he saw Trevor leave, he decided to follow him across Baggett Street Bridge to Haddington Road. If the guy had set his sights on Trevor, that's certainly possible, but there's also no way he could have known
that Trevor was going to leave the building less than half an hour later. For all he knew, Trevor could have remained there for several more hours. And Haddington Road is a ten minute walk away, so if this guy did something to Trevor, he still followed him for quite a while before he made his move. But I'm inclined to believe that if Trevor was attacked it was
by someone with access to a vehicle. No trace of Trevor was found during the President's security sweep of the area, so whoever harmed him probably had to abduct him from the area. And I think it's safe to assume that the man in black did not have access to a vehicle. He was standing outside in the rain for half an hour, and if he had a vehicle park nearby, I don't know why he would follow Trevor on foot for over ten minutes, even though a public lee was sent out for him to come forward.
The man in black may have no idea that anyone is even looking for him, or, as we saw with the other man in black from the ATM, perhaps this guy already spoke to the Guardie several years ago, but his statement has been lost in the shuffle and is buried in paperwork somewhere.
What's really frustrating is that had other businesses along the route been contacted by the GUARDI, then they would have possibly had closed circuit TV that captured him walking by after that bridge where he was last seen or picked up on camera. So that man at his place of employment is so far back along the path, I just don't see him circumventing the ATM machine and all these other things that we know Trevor did. I'm not interested in him. I'm just not
interested in him. He'll be happy to hear you say that. Now, if Trevor was a victim of foul play, there are many potential scenarios for what could have happened. He was walking around in public after four am, so he simply could have been the random victim of a robbery gone wrong.
But then again, it was established at Trevor's body was nowhere to be found in the vicinity, and I'm not sure if a random mugger who crossed paths with Trevor and killed him would go to the trouble of taking his body out
of the area to dispose of it. Well. In twenty seventeen, it seemed like we might finally have got some answers when infeman came forward to say that Trevor was abducted at gunpoint, placed inside a car trunk, driven to a house, accidentally shot to death, and then buried in a wooded area. There was good reason to think the information might be credible, since he
claims he did not want any of the reward money which was offered. But since the subsequent excavation of the wooded area and Chapel Lizard came up empty, it seems like the Guardian no longer believed the story. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that the informant was lying. As he claimed, he was passing along information which which had been shared with him by a career criminal. So
it's possible that this person was the one who was lying. Isn't it also possible that after Trevor was taken to this wooded area, then disposed of that because it is a high place for crime. Remember, drugs were found there, Different paraphernalia and things like that were found there. Don't you think it's possible that people who used that as a meeting ground, distribution ground, hiding place realized Trevor's bodies there. We cannot have a body discovered in this wooded
area and they moved it. Oh yeah, I think that it's definitely a possibility because it had been seventeen years up unto that point, and we know that they found some guns and like a consignment of harrow and cocaine there during the search. So someone might have come to the idea that this is a place we stashed weapons and drugs. We don't want a dead body link to
this place, so move the remains somewhere else. I mean, I wouldn't completely discount that possibility, but let's suppose there is some truth to the informant story. I don't know what circumstances could have led to Trevor being placed into
the trunk of a car and abducted from the area. Like we said earlier, this could have been a robbery gone wrong, or since the alleged suspect was known to be heavily involved in the drug trade, perhaps Trevor wound up stumbling across something he shouldn't have seen, such as a drug deal in progress or something worse. I mean, this was after four o'clock in the morning and the same area where a sex worker had been murdered over a drug debt
a year and a half earlier. So I can believe Trevor might have wound up in the wrong place at the wrong time. If the informant is telling the truth, than the original attention may not have been to kill Trevor, or rather just abduct him in order to frighten him into staying silent about what he saw. However, the suspect's gun went off accidentally, and now that
Trevor was dead, the responsible parties had to cover up their crime. Given that the authorities happened to stumble across a handgun and a cache of drugs during their excavation of the wooded area and Chapel Lizard, I can totally believe that's the location where criminals would hide things, including a body, while no trace of Trevor was found. Like Ashley said, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that someone could have gotten paranoid, dug up his remains and move them elsewhere
during the two decades since the crime took place. I think that's a very real possibility. And again it is Ireland. I mean, drinking's totally different in partings totally different than it it necessarily is here in the US. But at four am, my mom's telling me nothing good happen after midnight, right, So at four am, I'm sure there's a lot of activity on the
streets. And if I'm engaged in a criminal behavior that I'm going to get in trouble for if discovered, If any accident would Trevor happened, a hit and run, I scared him and accidentally shot him, all these things. You can't go to the authorities for help if you're not willing to take responsibility for the criminal behavior you were a part of. So if something had happened to him, accidental or purposeful, no one's able to get Trevor help if
they too were engaged in some kind of deviant behavior. So overall, this situation is a tough one. Since the alleged suspect in Trevor's death wasn't publicly named, we really don't know enough about him to determine the plausibility of him being responsible, and we don't have any information about the informant to determine how credible he is either. Frustratingly, after such a potentially major development, it looks like the investigation is back to square one. So what is the most
plausible explanation for what happened to Trevor? Well, I definitely don't think it was suicide, and I have my out that he died by accidentally falling into a body of water. Since the man in black scene in the CCTV footage by the ATM turned out to be a red herring, I do think there's a good chance that the other man in black scene in the CCTV footage outside BIAM headquarters is a red herring as well. But regardless, I do think
the most likely theory is that Trevor became a victim of foul play. I'm not entirely sure if the story told by the informant is true, but if it's not, I think the real truth might be something fairly similar. Trevor just crossed paths with the wrong person on his walk home who did him harm. They either abducted and murdered him in another location, or they killed him on the street but moved his body out of the area and disposed of it
elsewhere. That is one reason I don't completely rule out the hit and run theory, as Trevor could have simply been hit by a drunk driver, and this person transported his body out of the area to cover their tracks. But unfortunately, if someone out there is directly responsible for Trevor's death, they've essentially gotten away with the perfect crime, which is pretty incredible given how much exposure
this case has received in Ireland. At the very least. However, the Daily family have been amazing advocates for Trevor and you know that they will not give up until they find out what happened. Trevor's parents are both near their eighties right now, and it's heartbreaking to read just how much of a toll
this ordeal has taken on them as they've grown older. When you read stories about the parents of missing victims getting up there in age and hoping to see a resolution before they leave this world, you sincerely hope this can happen. So if you have any information about the disappearance of Trevor Deely, please contact
the appropriate authorities. Jules Ashley any final thoughts on this case. This is the only thing that there is to say about this case is how tragic it is for a family who is mourning the loss of Trevor's presence and aren't particularly sure what to be mourning right, not sure what happened to him. They're not sure. There's no one hundred percent guarantee that he died that night,
that he's deceased now, but the likelihood is that he is. So his poor family is in this position where they have, from the time he went missing to today decades later, advocated for media coverage, advocated that Trevor's story be remembered, advocated that his own personal memory and legacy is remembered, and they're still in some ways holding a space for him in their own family,
asking what if right? And so it's heartbreaking. My disheart and soul go out to a family who's saying, please, don't forget who Trevor was. Can you guys imagine if decades later someone came forward and said, I know what happened. It is very interesting that that one informant did come forward with a pretty powerful story. Were they lying? It's possible that they want attention, but they didn't get much and they didn't ask for any money. So
part of me thinks that there is a nuggative truth in there. Right. Do they have the whole story? Possibly not, but man, it takes one person and time ends up being on the family side when decades have passed. So prayers that someone who knows what happened can come forward and give this families some answers. Before I give my final thoughts, just one question, Robin, So the informant they came forward, do we know if that informant
has any connection to the unnamed suspect. I'm not entirely sure. They haven't really made that clear. I'm guessing so because apparently this unnamed suspect told this story of some sort, so I guess they must have had a close relationship at some point, but I know that the Guardia kept details very secret from the public. Yeah, it's really interesting. I wish we knew more,
and I agree with everything you said, Ash. It's just so tragic for the family to have nowhere that they can go to more in the loss of Trevor, to not have his physical body, and just to have zero answers. I think we have not a lot to go on here. But I just don't think the idea that he fell into a body of water is all that plausible. I think there would have been some trace that would have showed
up over time. And I mean, of course I don't think that he completed suicide, because you would find the body, and it just doesn't seem like his behavior was in line with somebody who wanted to end their own life. And I know sometimes you can't see it coming, but he literally just a short while before made plans for later that weekend with a friend, and he'd seen all the people that night. He seemed to be in good spirits.
It just seems like he came across the wrong person. Whatever their motive was, be it robbery or something else that is unknown right now, and for whatever reason they decided to end his life. It is just so tragic that nobody has come forward because I feel like this is a where more than one person will know what had happened to Trevor, and like should have concrete details, and I guess that's what the informant was potentially doing with where the
body could have been but may have been moved. It's really sad that the parents don't have those remains and to this day don't have a concrete answer as
to what happened to Trevor. Yeah. I've been following this case for years, ever since I covered it on the Trail Went Cold nearly six years ago, and I still find it to be one of the most haunting cases I've ever seen, because it's just one of those things where there were a bunch of wrong circumstances which put Trevor in his position where if he had been able to take a taxi home to his apartment from the party, but there was a strike so that he otherwise would have been safe, and if it had
been raining hard, he probably just would have walked straight home without stopping by his workplace to pick up an umbrella, so things might have turned out differently. And the reason I decided to revisit this case recently because they made that shocking announcement that the man in black seen passing by the ATM camera had been
identified and ruled out as having any involvement in Trevor's disappearance. And I have to admit that for years I thought this guy might have had some involvement, that maybe he was following Trevor, and that he may have abducted him at
a later time or killed him. But since we know that's not the case, this investigation is right back to square one, and it has taken such a toll on the Daily family that they just said that it was a bittersweet moment to have this new lead, saying that, well, I'm glad we can close the chapter on this lead and not devote any more resources to it. But at the same time, if this man was not involved in Trevor's
disappearance, then what did happen to him? We've got nothing to work with, and I think the closes we have is this story from the informant about Trevor crossing paths with some criminal figures who killed him that night and disposed of his body. And while this full story about him being shot accidentally at an apartment may not be entirely true, I do think that what actually did happen to Trevor that there are some elements of truth in it. I think it's
something similar. I think he just prospassed with the wrong person and that they killed him and disposed of his body and have just somehow managed to get away
with it. And like we talked about, what may lead to this case being solved is for the right person to come forward, and we went in a step in the right direction when that informant came forward in twenty seventeen, but unfortunately it didn't pan out, but I do have a feeling that there are other people out there who might know the full truth, who might have the answers, so hopefully they do come forward at some point, and then
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