Karina Holmer Pt. Two

Rapp and Susan Nickter. She would live in a loft on the weekend with the family during the week and one Friday night, she decided to go out to a club with some friends called the Zanzibar, but then she

just seemed to disappear. None of her friends actually saw her leave, and about thirty six hours later they would find the top half of her torso inside a trash bag and a dumpster located a couple miles away, and it turned out that she even sliced half right at the wrist that whoever did it went right through their spine, but the lower half of her body was never found, and it turned out that her exact cause of death

was strangulation. Frustratingly, we had so many different conflicting eyewitness accounts from the nightclub that no one could figure out the circumstances of how and when Karina left. It did sound like that she was heavily intoxicated, and the boyfriend of one of her friends she went with said that they saw her leaving in a Mitsubishi with two very aggressive guys who told him to back off, but no

other witnesses could corroborate a story. There are other witnesses who saw with a panhandler on the alley named Juan Polo, who did have a history of being accused of being involved in a gang rape and whose ex girlfriend was murdered under strange circumstances, but they weren't able to find

any evidence against him. She had also been seen talking with a man named Herb Witten, who would shoe up outside these clubs with his large job, both stressed up in Superman costumes, but they couldn't find any evidence against him either, and a couple months after that he died after slitting his own throat. Because he had a history of depression, and mental health issues, and it's been suspected that being a potential suspect in a murder might have

been his breaking point. They looked at a couple other suspects, a death metal singer named John's Whiz, though there really wasn't anything to connect him at all. All they found were some human bones inside his residence, but and he lived near the dumpster where Karina was found, but otherwise

there was nothing else on him. A couple months after Karina was murdered, there was a real estate broker named Gregory Hummel who picked up a woman from the same sands of our nightclub, took her back to his apartment and attempted to sexually assault her before she contacted the police. But otherwise they found no evidence against him either, and the case has pretty much been unsolved for nearly thirty years. They've even looked at her family, Frank Rapp and Susan Nicker,

but there's no evidence against them either. So we've had all these potential suspects but no evidence against any of them, and the case continues to remain unsolved all these years later.

murdered before they can return home. I see no reason to believe that there are any connection between the two cases, but these stories are truly nightmarish situations for the victims' families. How can you keep up with the investigation and spread awareness about the case when you live on an entirely

different continent located thousands of miles away. Karina hailed from a small village with a population of less than one hundred, and I'm not sure if her family has ever traveled to the United States to meet with the investigators on her case. They're pretty much in a position where they can do nothing but wait, and they haven't received any

answers in nearly thirty years. I'm sure the situation is particularly haunting because Karina had been planning to return to Sweden earlier than usual because she was unhappy with her situation, and sent that cryptic letter to one of her best friends which she stated that quote, something terrible had happened, but she would not provide any further details until she arrived home. So of course you have to wonder if this terrible thing she was referring to had any relation

to her murder. This is a case where a number of individuals had been looked at as possible suspects, but there's no real evidence pointing towards any of them, So, for all we know, perhaps Koreenan was murdered by someone who has yet to pop up on the radar. It seems like there are an awful lot of weird coincidences in this story which have led the investigation in unexpected directions.

For instance, you might be familiar with the story of Rafi Kodikian and David Coughlin, two friends from Boston who went on a hike in New Mexico's Carlsbad Caverns National Park in August of nineteen ninety nine. They wound up getting lost, and by the time they were found Kodikian had stabbed Coughlin to death in what he described as a mercy killing, since his friend was badly dehydrated and suffering so much. Nevertheless, Kodikian was still charged with second

degree murder and served sixteen months in prison. Well, believe it or not, the reason this story got linked to Karina's case is because Rafi Kodikian just happened to live in the same apartment building next to the dumpster where Karina's body was found. He was even briefly questioned by police at the time, who were performing routine canvassing of

the building's residents. Of course, when Kudaiki Ain't got charged with another murder three years later, investigators checked into any possible link with Karina's case, but the whole thing turned out to be nothing more than a coincidence.

are two very different scenarios. The reality is is you have a tragedy that happens to live near a tragedy, and so I think that's the only thing that really seems to tie those two together.

subsequently found in a dumpster thirty six hours later. Since the medical examiner believed that Karina was alive for at least twenty four hours after she was last seen, this might indicate that she was held in captivity for a prolonged period of time, possibly even tortured before she was killed. But if so, who was responsible and how did Karna

cross paths with the perpetrator? Well? One of the most frustrating elements of this investigation is that we have a number of conflicting stories about how Karina left the nightclub. Some of them placed her walking away from the club down the street, but the version that is quite different from the others involves Karina climbing into a gray Mitsubishi with two unidentified men who yelled profanities at the boyfriend

of one of Karina's friends. If this account is accurate, then this suggests that multiple people were involved in the murder, but I find it odd that there don't seem to be any other witness who could corroborate this guy's story. That's not to say that I completely discouted, as Karina had apparently told one of her friends that she was planning to go to an after hours party with an older man, so for all we know, one of the

two individuals inside the car might have been him. Given Karina as a depriated state, I can definitely see a situation where a group of men drove her somewhere to take advantage of her. But how do things escalate to the point where these predators sliced her entire body in half. I'm not sure if investigators placed much credence into the witness's story because even though he supposedly came face to face with two men who may have been complicit in

Karina's murder. The authorities had never released detailed descriptions or composite sketches for these guys. But further complicates this situation is that there were reported sightings of Karina at a twenty four hour convenience store in the Back Bay neighborhood between three thirty and four thirty am, which would have been about an hour or two after she left the club. Yes,

eyewitness is a missing person's cases are often mistaken. But since the store was located only a block from the dumpster where Karina was found, I guess you can't discout the idea that Karina walked to this neighborhood on her own. But the issue is that the lot where Karina was staying was located in the Fort Point neighborhood in the complete opposite direction. So why would Karreina be frequenting a store in this particular area.

a possible reason why you don't see composites. Also, it's possible that these two guys really did take her back and even together took advantage of her. But one left, and if she was kept alive for another, you know, several hours or a whole nother day, it's possible she was only with one of those individuals in maybe the apartment or home where she was taken. Let's say the other person had to return home, had to go to work,

had to go back to their family. The actual killer might have done it solo and simply taken advantage of an intoxicated woman with his buddy. And then it turned sinister after the friend left.

does make sense. But it's just so frustrating to me that there is just no one else who can say that, yeah, I saw this Mitsubishi, and I saw these two guys with Karina.

But of course, online discussions about this case have pushed forward conspiracy theories about the reason the murder is still unsolved is because a police cover up took place in

order to protect this man. Well, even though there was definitely serious issues with corruption in the Boston Police Department during the nineteen nineties, there is no evidence at all to support the cover up theory, and I'd like to think that most cops would draw the line at protecting a fellow officer who dismembered his girlfriend by literally slicing her body in half. With the limited information that we have about this policeman, I really have no reason to

believe that he's the killer. And I feel the same way about John z a Whiz, who's link to this case is tenuous, to say the least. I'm not familiar with Zowiz's work, but he is a prominent enough figure on the industrial music scene that he has his own

Wikipedia page. The only reason he even appeared on the radar is because he lived a few blocks away from the location where Karina's body was found, and he had enough weird memorabilia in his apartment and bizarre aspects of his musical act that some people thought that he might be capable of murder. But Zuwiz almost sounds like he was a victim of Satanic panic to me. He claimed that when police started interviewing him about the murders, they

asked him questions like do you worship the devil? Of course, nothing was found to implicate Zowiz in the crime, but even though his band's Sleep Chamber was reasonably popular at the time, it sounds like the combination of Zuiz's heroin addiction in him being looked at as a potential suspect and a murder caused a major downward spiral for the band, and they wound up going on hiatus for several years.

Zuiz was able to overcome his addiction issues and is still alive today, and you can actually find an interview with him on YouTube from two thousand and nine where he talks about his connection to this crime. Oddly enough, Zuiz states during the interview that Karina's boss was the one who actually murdered her. But this is not accurate at all, since no one has ever been charged with the crime and there's no more evidence against Frank Rap than any of the other potential suspects.

got it crossed up with another case. But obviously we don't know who actually murdered her.

can't imagine. And yes there's corruption, Yes, maybe someone's assaulted and you hide it. Yes, maybe you know you have some really corrupt officers who would hide a murder. But by the time your partner in crime, who's supposed to be having your back, right, your police officer partner is cutting women in half and brutally, you know, committing a crime of this nature, doesn't it make you scared to serve next to him, Like if he can do that to her, what could he do to us?

be a bit of a domestic violence blind spot. And I know they've done a lot of departments have done a lot of work to bring themselves forward so that you don't have police responding to calls where there's domestic violence which includes a cop and then them not taking

a report or not reporting it. But I would think in this case, if one of their fellow officers girlfriends was murdered, that they would draw the line with not only just a not only a murder, but a murder in which her body was bisected and half of it was never found. I would think most people at that point would throw up their hands and go, Okay, you know there is a brotherhood here, but like this is where it stops.

to be almost corrupt. If your department is right, young rookies come in, they aren't corrupt, the people training them might be, and therefore corruption becomes not abnormal, and it's not even it's like an abusive home right where you go like, oh the abuse is so normal, Like okay, we're all kind of part of it, and we're all living.

And other letters to her family, Karina had expressed unhappiness with her own pairent job, mostly because of the workload it required, and seemed anxious to return home earlier than planned. But this particular letter suggested that something much darker was taking place. While Frank and Susan always maintained that they didn't notice anything to suggest Karina was unhappy, some online slusive speculated that the terrible thing Karna referred to might

have been Frank taking advantage of her. In fact, one prominent theory the reason Karina's body was sliced in half was to cover up the fact that she was pregnant. This wouldn't necessarily mean that Frank was the culprit, as a completely different person could have gotten Karina pregnant. If so, this would mean the crime was much more personal, rather than Karina being murdered by a random stranger she encountered

on the night she went out party. However, I can't say I've ever put much stock into this theory, because even if a fetus had been removed from Karina's womb, I'd like to think that there still would have been medical evidence to indicate if she had been pregnant at some point. After all, even though Karina had been sliced in half at the waist on the lower half of her boy, he was missing her torso was still intact.

But getting back to Frank, rapp I guess one of the main reasons people have speculated that something may have been going on with him and Karina is because he allowed her to spend weekends staying at his photography studio, which doubled as aloft, So theoretically, if they were having an affair, this would be an ideal place for them to carry it out, away from Frank's wife and children.

It's also worth mentioning that Karina was technically in the country illegally while she was working as an all pair, as the family had hired her through a rather shady Swedish agency which placed o pairs in the US without securing them a proper work visa. So if anything inappropriate was going on well Karina was employed in that household, she wouldn't have much leverage to complain to the authorities

without fear of being deported. It's also worth mentioning that there were past issues in Frank and Susan's marriage, as back in January of nineteen ninety one, Frank was actually charged with assault and battery against his wife, which prompted her to request a temporary restraining order against him. But a few months later Susan asked that the charges be dropped against Frank, as she claimed his actions were the result of issues with alcoholism and he was now undergoing treatment.

She would later say that the incident was the best thing that could have happened to save their marriage, and to Frank's credit, I get the impression that he did genuinely turn things around. I see no indication that there were any more serious issues with the marriage, and if you search online, you'll see that Frank and Susan are still together to this day.

common occurrence, right. You have a husband and wife who are fighting, and she's scared enough to press charges, and then she wants the charges dropped because Frank's a good man who happens to get abusive at certain points, and there's that psych of violence that occurs where she sees her husband as a dual kind of person, right, the abuser and the man who's a good father and husband

and hard worker and things like that. And so when you think about that, cycle right where she's walking on eggshells. There's an eruption, there's abuse. That's when she needs the police, That's when she calls. But then Frank's going to present as the other side where he says, I, you know, I never meant to do that. I'm so sorry, and then she welcomes him back in. That's the father of her kids, that's her stability, that's her life. And so is Frank a good man?

be some clues left. I would think because her upper body was found, which would included her torso, So I would think that you would like trisect the body, right, maybe take off the upper body and then take off the torso, which would be the part that would be the most sensitive, and get.

Oh as one source close to the investigation told the Boston Globe quote, no one's a suspect, but everyone's a suspect, which implies that they were not eliminating any possibilities. As far as Frank and Susan's alibi during that time period that Karina was killed, they always maintained that on the evening of Friday, June twenty first, they took their kids

to McDonald's and a drive in movie. This wouldn't necessarily rule them out, since Karina went missing sometime between two and three am on the morning of June twenty second, and her body was not found until the afternoon of June twenty third, But it sounds like Frank's parents were visiting for the weekend and could pretty much account for

the couple's whereabouts. I mean, technically, I guess Frank could have snuck out and killed Karina while the rest of the family were sleeping, But how would he have known where to find her? How could he predict Karina would be leaving the Zanzibar night club at that particular time. If Frank was able to kill Karina at the loft, then that would make sense since he had access to it, but there's no indication that Karina ever made it back

there after she left the club. Police even performed a search of the loft with a trained dog, but found no evidence to suggest a crime had taken place there, which you would expect if it involved a victim being dismembered and sliced in half. I guess one troubling issue which put Frank and Susan in a suspicious light was the fire that took place in the dumpster near their

condo on the night after Karina's body was found. And there's also the coincidental timing of Frank securing a permit at a nearby transfer and recycling station on the night before Karina was found, though Susan told the press that this was only done for the purpose of disposing of recycled newspapers since their Konda Minium complex did not have

recycling facilities. Since none of the burn materials were covered from the dumpster had any connection to Karina's case, it's certainly possible that the whole incident was nothing more than an odd coincidence. And really, if Frank or Susan wanted to burn incriminating evidence, I'd like to think that they would be smart enough not to do so in a

dumpster located so close to their residence. During a twenty nineteen news report on the Boston radio station WGBH, Frank and Susan commented on how frustrating it is when you type the name Frank Rapp into Google these days, many of the top matches mentioned him being a potential murder suspect rather than a successful photographer. Indeed, it is hard to imagine Frank committing such a brutal and horrific crime and then being able to live a normal life with

his family for the next three decades. If the couple are completely innocent of any involvement in Karina's murder, then you definitely have to feel sympathy for Frank and Susan as in addition to the ensuing suspicion directed towards them. I'm sure that this must have been a very traumatic event to experience.

knew exactly what they were doing. They had done it before, they got excited about watching her, you know, to pass away in the way that they strangled her, and then perfectly we're able to not only cut her but also then discard of the lower half without getting caught. I think this is someone who knows what they're doing because they've done it many times before, and it's not improbable that they did it after as well.

she disappeared. The first one was one Polo, an unhoused panhandler who was seen singing and dancing with Karrena and an Alley while she was intoxicated, and it certainly wasn't unreasonable to suspect him since he had a criminal history and at least one rape accusation. It's been reported that Polo was questioned in relation to the murder of a

former girlfriend named Evelyn Alvarez, which took place one year earlier. Unfortunately, other than one article published in the Boston Globe in April of nineteen ninety five, I cannot find any additional information about this crime, so I have no idea if it's still unsolved. But one interesting detail in that case is that Evelyn hailed from the city of Chelsea, located directly across the Mystic River from Boston, so investigators wondered if she was murdered in the Boston area before the

killer drove to Lakeville to dispose of her body. Regardless, no evidence was found to suggest that Karina and Evelyn's murders might be connected. And while it does not sound like Polo was officially ruled out as a suspecting Karina's case, the fact that he was unhoused and did not appear to have access to a vehicle would seem to point to him not being the killer. If Polo murdered Karina,

where would he have dismembered her? And without a vehicle, how could he transport both halves for her body and dispose of them?

So we know that she had plans to leave, but they needed transportation to do so, right or they needed at least a place to go, and so I just don't see Polo having those options.

seem to give him an alibi. I can see why people might be suspicious of Witten since he lived over twenty miles away in Andover and would drive to downtown Boston with his dog and hang out outside bars and nightclubs in order to talk to women, and since he went to the trouble of dressing himself in his one hundred and twenty pound dog in Superman shirts, I could see women being inclined to go over and chat with them.

Even though there was surveillance footage of Karina chatting with Witten, this might not have any significance, as it sounds like Witten was doing this sort of thing long before this encounter with Karina. I see no indication that Witten was accused of being malicious or creepy towards other women while hanging out around Boylston Place, and it might just be an unfortunate coincidence that he was seen chatting with a

young woman shortly before she was murdered. Now, some would argue that the speeding ticket does not completely exonerate Witten, since he possibly could have had Karina's body inside his trunk while this was taking place, and thus the Eaters have never publicly released the exact time that Witton was pulled over that morning or confirmed that his vehicle was searched. But I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't, since this sounded like nothing more than a routine traffic stop.

I don't see this as somebody who's going to have the wherewithal to them to be charming to the extent that he could lure someone away from the bar with him. I think he would send off red flags that hey, I'm maybe not a bad guy, maybe I'm not a dangerous guy, but I'm lonely. I want attention from people. I'm desperate to talk to people, and I don't think that's somebody that Karina, even intoxicated, wants to go with.

So did wit and kill himself out of guilt for what he did to Karna, or did he just crack from the strain of being a potential suspect and a homicide Well, after reading about Wynd's history of struggles with depression and mental illness, I am inclined to believe it was the latter. It's worth noting that even though police announced that they were looking for a man with a large sheep dog who had been speaking with Karina outside the club, and the media lad reported that this man

had died by suicide. Wynn's name was never released publicly until weeks after his death. Winn's attorney also prevented him from being formally questioned by police, as he felt that Wittin could not mentally handle an interrogation. But even though Witten was never named as a suspect or person of interest, it sounds like just being associated with this crime in any fashion took a hole on his fragile mental health, and he may have been the breaking point which drove

him to suicide. And you also have to couple this in with the fact that Wynn's own father had recently passed away, and it sounds like you took it pretty hard. It was not until the lead detective on the case, Thomas O'Leary, was asked about Witten in the June twenty third, nineteen ninety eight edition of The Boston Herald, when he publicly stated quote, he didn't do it. Indeed, one reason why it's hard to imagine Witten being the killer is

because he had a history of erratic behavior. But Karina's murder was meticulous organized crime, and it's hard to imagine Witten Orjan Polo for that matter, being able to commit a murder like this without leaving any evidence behind.

to end his own life. It is really horrific to think what he went through in the moment's leading up to that, and the method that he chose is just it's awful, and I really feel for him and his family, and I hope that that dog found a good home after so Our final potential suspect is Gregory Hummel, who was not seen with Karina at Zanzibar at the time she was killed, but made the news six months later when he picked up another young woman from the same

nightclub and proceeded to take her back to his apartment and attempted to rape her. She managed to grab Humble's mobile phone and lock herself in the bathroom to call for help. But if this hadn't happened, could she have potentially suffered the same fate as Karina. Well, Humble did have a history of allegations of violence against women, There's still a big difference between beating and sexually assaulting them

and murder and dismemberment. We were unable to find much follow up information on the investigation into Hummel, only that he spent a year in jail for his attack on the other woman. And incidentally, if you search through the Boston Globes archives, you'll find Hummell's name listed multiple times in their real estate transaction section for selling houses during the mid two thousands. So it does not sound like

his jailston curtails his real estate career. But even though Hummel violently attacked a woman that he picked up his zanzibar, I'm not sure if he could be placed at that same club on the night that Karina was there. So, for all we know, perhaps investigators were able to establish that he had an alibi and ruled him out.

different element and realm of violence. And so when you look at this, I think that he could have had an issue with women, but I don't again see a profession that indicates knowledge of being able to bilaterally cut her right and to dispose of a body that way, it just doesn't scream to me the same level of criminality. So assaulting somebody horrific, But when you look at cutting a body in half, discarding her, and strangling her to death,

those are not that. That's not at the same level that this real estate agent is showing in his other types of crimes.

there was no restraint marks. She didn't have any other abrasions contusions, So it's very possible that she could have been given some kind of drugs so that she remained calm, so that this person could potentially sexually assault her or do what they were going to do to her without her fighting back. But then in this case we see a really sloppy assault where he's incredibly violent and didn't go to any steps to use any type of drugs to subdue his victim. I just don't see the offender

connection here. It just seems like two completely different crimes.

woman managed to save herself. However, the one thing which might point away from Humble, Polo Witten, Frank Rap, or any of the other known potential suspects is the partial fingerprint which was found on the trash bag can take Karina's body. While this has never been publicly confirmed, I'd like to think that investigators at least attempted to compare the print to the fingerprints of all these other individuals I just mentioned and found none of them to be

a match. So this is why I'm inclined to believe that the perpetrator might be someone who has never been investigated or shown up on the police's radar. It might be hard to imagine someone going to the trouble of slicing a woman's body in half and then never committing another crime like that again. But after nearly eight years, we've still never determined who is responsible for the Black

Dolly murder. So, for all you know, Elizabeth Schwortz killer may have gone back to living a normal life and didn't commit any more murders. The whole crime is such an anomaly because we don't know of any similar murders which took place in the Boston area during that time period. So did that killer move elsewhere or change the remo,

or did they just simply never kill again. We have to harken back to Karina's cryptic letter about something terrible having happened, because while this might be nothing more than a red herring, it could also hold the key to the mystery. But until then we can only speculate, and since this is a cold case which may not be solved through D and April filing, it might require the

right person coming forward with information. So if you happen to know anything about the unsolved murder of Krena Holmer, please contact the Boston Police Department Unsolved Homicide Unit at six one seven three four three four four seven zero. That's six one seven three four three four four seven zero. Or if you want to send any tips anonymously, please call the Crime Stoppers tip line at one eight hundred

four nine four tips. That's one eight hundred four nine four eight four seven seven Jules Ashley, any final thoughts in this case?

and complicate the grief. You know, I wonder if they have guilt of saying, listen, we let her go try this new adventure, when really they should be so proud of encouraging her to go pursue a dream in America, have a new life.

incredibly devastating. It would be amazing to know what happened here, not just for the family, but because my god, if this person has done this before, they do it to Karina, who's to say that they didn't do it after And there's other victims as well. This is a very dangerous person and they need to be caught.

to solve Karina's murder. And that is compounded I think by the fact that we know that she wrote that letter, and that letter indicated that something really terrible had happened, so she wanted to return home early. So for her family, knowing that she already had active plans to come home and then this happened, it's just so heartbreaking, Like she was just out there living her life, meeting other Swedish opairs and having a good time, which is what a

girl her age should have been doing. This shouldn't have happened to her, but unfortunately it did. And I think that the most likely theory in my head is probably the two guys in the Mitsubishi. It's possible that there could have been two offenders. I think you're more disarmed and you're more inclined to get into a vehicle with more than one person. If it's just one person, you think, okay, well they could do harm to me. But if there's two people, you're like, well it has to be safe.

There's more than one person, and like there's safety in numbers, So I think that she could have very easily voluntarily got into that vehicle. But I don't think that any of the suspects in this case really check out. I think it's possible that Frank could have done something to Karina allegedly that could have been that terrible thing, but like as she said earlier in the episode, that wouldn't

necessarily make him a murderer. It looks like he had a pretty strong alibi, with his family visiting, going to that drive in, and going to dinner. So I don't think that he killed Karina because and had mentioned the like how would he have known that she was there and like contacted her, and all of these sorts of details that just don't seem to add up. The police

obviously didn't want to clear anybody. It didn't seem to publicly name anyone as being cleared or eliminated as a suspect or a person of interest, so I don't think we can necessarily read anything into that. It my heart breaks. This is a really gruesome case, and it makes me think that this can have been this offender's first kill. So it's likely that maybe they're in jail for another offense, or they've gotten away with it and they've just switched up.

like hand out flyers. So they've pretty much been able to unable to do anything but just sit back and wait and hope that the police find the killer. And I know when they sent to Karina on there, I'm sure they never imagined that she would become a victim just like Elizabeth Short the Black Dahlia, and that the crime would remain unsolved for nearly thirty years. And I do agree that we've had all these suspects, I don't

think any of them are particularly compelling. I do think it's possible that Frank Rapp may have done something inappropriate with Karna and may know more than he's leting on and that this could be the source of Karna's letter. But it's also possible that all this stuff is just a red herring and she just cross passed with the wrong person at the nightclub that night, someone she had never encountered before in her life, and unfortunately she wound up leaving with them and was murdered in such a

brutal fashion. Do agree that if you were to pick anyone those two men in the Mitsubi, she do seem like the most promising suspects. But of course the big issue is that we just cannot firm they existed. We only have one eyewitness who recalled seeing them, so there really isn't a lot to work with. But I am intrigued by the theory that was pushed forward that these

men may not have been just serial killers. They may have just gone too far with Korena and decided that the best way to get rid of the physical evidence and to get rid of DNA would be to cut her body in half and get rid of the lower torso so that it is never found. And that this wasn't done just because they get off on killing. They just did it to cover themselves. And then just went

on living their normal lives. Again, we just don't know, but it's just hard to imagine that someone who would be capable of something like this could just not commit any more crimes. So yeah, even though we don't have any DNA to work with or physical evidence, I do hope someday they have a major break in this case and we can find out who actually did it.

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