Welcome back to the Pathway Chili. I'm Robin, I'm Jules.
And I'm Ashley. Let's dive right into this week's case.
April sixteenth, two thousand and three, Kendall County, Texas, Fifty four year old Colonel Philip Schue, who works as a staff psychiatrist for the United States Air Force, leaves his residence to drive to work. Two and a half hours later, Colonel Shoe's car is seen driving erradically down the interstate before it crashes into some trees and Shoe is found
dead in the ever seed. Even though his death is ruled to be a suicide, there are a number of suspicious discrepancies, as there's duct tape around his wristen feet, a large gash in his chest, and both of his nipples have been removed. There's suspicion that Sho's ex wife had him tortured and killed in order to cash in on some life insurance policies, but even though a judge eventually rules that she was the victim of a homicide, his official cause of death is never changed.
After that, the path went chilly, So today we're going to be delving into one of the oddest mysteries we've ever covered the unexplained two thousand and three death of Colonel Philip Schue. We've explored a lot of cases in which a victim's death was ruled to be a suicide, even though there were a number of suspicious details which made their loved ones suspect foul play, But the circumstances of this case are so bizarre that it stands out
from the pack. Colonel Phillips Sheue was a psychiatrist with the United States Air Force who was only months away from retirement and had future plans with his wife, Tracey. But after leaving his home one morning for what should have been a routine work day, he was killed in
a car crash less than three hours later. But this was no ordinary car crash because when Scho's body was found, he had duct tape wrapped around his wrist and feet and a number of unexplained injuries which could not have been caused by the accident, as there was a large gash in his chest and both his nipples and a digit from one of his fingers had been removed and
could not be found at the scene. And believe it or not, the authorities were inclined to believe that Colonel Chue inflicted these injuries on himself before intentionally crashing his car in a very elaborate suicide. Prior to his death, Shue had displayed a lot of paranoid and erratic behavior because he was convinced his ex wife was planning to kill him in order to cash in on some lucrative insurance policies she had taken out on his life as
part of their divorce settlement. For this reason, some people, including Schu's widow, believed that his ex wife abducted and tortured him, and when he attempted to make an escape, he wound up losing control of his car it was killed in a fatal crash. At a civil trial years later, a judge publicly expressed his belief that Colonel Shoe was the victim of a homicide, but since he did not have the legal authority to make that ruling, the authority
still officially consider Shoe's death to be a suicide. It's a pretty baffling case because even though there are a lot of odd discrepancies about the suicide ruling, which cannot be adequately explained, it's not that easy to come up with a scenario involving foul play which makes much sense either. So we're going to explore both sides on today's episode.
So you said, we've talked about some odd cases before. This is already one of the more bizarre cases we've discussed because of the injuries to Colonel Shoe. When you look at the way he left the house and then is seen driving erradically down the highway, it does almost seem like he's having an altercation with somebody, and when you look at his injuries, it would appear so as well.
But then there's the question if the car crashes, how does the person who's attacking him guarantee that they're going to get out right or they're going to get away And there's no sign of another individual. No one sees someone fleeing from the car, but someone had to have gotten into a argument with him or injured him, or he completed these injuries elsewhere or through his nipples out
the window. I mean, it seems incredibly bizarre if this is a stage suicide because of the way his body's found.
Yeah, this is one of the biggest cases I can think of where the timeline is so crucial. Because we have a window of nearly three hours where Colonel Shoes whereabouts are on accounted for, and to this day they've never been able to figure out where he was and
what happened to him. So, either he was abducted and someone was torturing him and he managed to make an escape before he crashed his car, or he just drove to some remote area and was doing stuff like cutting off his own nipples and then just decided to crash his intentionally. And it's just so wild that all this time has passed and no one has been able to find any conclusive evidence of where he was during that window of time.
Was he missing an entire finger or just like a partial finger.
A partial finger, like a digit on one of his fingers, like the top part.
So for me, when you look at this, did his wife say that he left and was agitated.
At that time?
Or was it a pretty normal morning?
And does it take three hours to get to work or should he have been at work pretty quickly?
He should have been at work within an hour or so. And as far as his wife was concerned, he seemed perfectly normal that morning. There was no indication that he was having any mental health problems and he didn't arrive at work, so it seems apparent that something happened before he made it there. But was he abducted or he just decided to do this to himself.
Our story begins in Kendall County, Texas, in two thousand and three, and our central figure is fifty four year old Philip Michael Schue, who goes by the name Phil. Phil lives just outside the town of Bourne with his wife, Tracy Shoe, and holds the rank of colonel in the
United States Air Force. Born in Brooksville, Ohio, Phil joined the Air Force in nineteen seventy and served as a navigator for four years, but had to cut his career short after he was diagnosed with Minier's disease, a disorder which was caused by the build up of fluid in the chambers of the inner ear. As a result, Phil had several episodes in which he experienced a sudden loss of consciousness, and of course, this made him too much
of a liability to be an aviator. After leaving the Air Force for ten years, Phil trained to become a physician's assistant and completed medical school before he was accepted into a four year residency program at the Wright Patterson Air Force Medical Center in Dayton, Ohio. Upon completion of this program, he was assigned to Eggland Air Force Base in Florida and became their chief medical director of impatient
mental health. It was here where Phil became acquainted with his future wife, Tracy, who was assigned there as an Air Force forced nurse, and they gradually began a relationship. During this time period, Phil was legally separated from his first wife, Nancy, whom he had originally married back in
nineteen seventy. The couple were high school sweethearts, but Phil would later say that there was no real love or compatibility in their relationship, and he only agreed to marry Nancy because she was six months pregnant at the time. She soon gave birth to a son named Jeffrey, though many people noticed that he did not appear to look
all that much like Phil. At the time, Nancy had supposedly been carrying on an affair with another man, but Phil never asked for any paternity testing to confirm that he was Jeffrey's biological father, and raised him as if he were his own son. Even though Phil and Nancy's marriage had completely fallen apart by the end of the
nineteen eighties. Their divorce was not actually finalized until nineteen ninety two, as Phil wanted to complete his service commitment and ensure that Nancy, who was unemployed at the time, would still be allowed to retain all of his military benefits. By this point, Phil was already deeply involved in his relationship with Tracy, and they would get married less than
one year following the divorce. Ten years later, Phil and Tracy were living together in Kendall County, Texas, as he was assigned to work as a staff psychiatrist aerospace medicine physician at the Wilford Hall Medical Center located at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio. The Shoes had made plans for the future, as Phil was finally going to
retire from the Air Force. During the fall, he was accepted into a forensic psychiatry fellowship program at the University of Alabama, and the couple had already put a down payment on a new lakefront home near Birmingham.
Here's what's so interesting with Colonel Shoe is that he is a psychiatrist and he's head of the mental health facility at a military base, he's pursuing even more education and forensic psychiatry following his retirement. And so if you're talking about mental health episode and something that would cause you to stage just suicide so elaborate, you would think that Phil alone would actually be able to say, Hey, I'm struggling right, I'm showing signs of X, Y and
Z diagnoses and I need help. And even if he wasn't going outside of his practice to seek professional help, he and his wife should have had many discussions where he was talking about his own mental health. And if I don't know, I just don't think that someone that was a psychiatrist could be pursuing so many big things
and have such a significant break so quickly. Yes, he was paranoid about his ex wife, as you alluded to in the intro, but you would think there was a rapid decline or you would see signs pointing to this mental health episode, and that Phil himself would likely have noticed it as well, wouldn't you.
Oh Yeah, And as we're going to talk about, Phil was seeing a psychiatrist on his own because he did have a few issues with depression and anxiety, but it didn't really sound like he was depressed enough that he appeared to be suicidal, and not nearly at the point where he would commit an elaborate suicide by doing stuff like cutting off his own nipples and a piece of
his finger. And like we just said, they had plans for the future, they were planning to do a They just did a down payment on a new home in Alabama. So even though you can never really predict if someone is going to be suicidal, there just aren't signs here that he would be capable of doing what they accused him of.
And also, don't you normally see that people who are in mental health professions, they actually are encouraged to seek help because you're dealing with other patients who have often heavy trauma and all kinds of issues that they're coming
to you for. And so often I've heard that therapist counselors, psychiatrists, psychologists, that a lot of them is kind of routine to go ahead and see another specialist because you're dealing with that mental health crisis all the time in your professional life.
That is definitely true. But if either of you heard of case Hughes, do you know who he is?
No?
I don't think so.
No, he's a neuroscientist. He's got a bunch of degrees. He trains all the three letter agencies military on like behavioral profiling, and that's his area of expertise. He's thought to be like the top profiler in the world. And he was having episodes for three years where he didn't even realize what was happening. He was just experiencing just this mental decline. But he went back and watched all these videos where he was guesting on other people's youtubes.
He's got a really popular they've got like a million subscribers on YouTube's called the Behavioral Panel. They read body language and they do statement analysis and that type of a thing, and it's really good if anyone's interested. But he would go on these YouTube videos and he would like gray out. He wouldn't realize that he was having these moments where he was having a seizure. Essentially, they'd be like not like a grand Mall seizure, they're like
these little seizures. But it got to the point where he just didn't see it in himself. But when he looked back in retrospect after getting this diagnosis, he realized, like, oh my god, this is something that's been happening for years, and people that are close to me might have noticed little things, but they just thought he's the top of his field, this is what he studies. He is going to recognize this in himself, and like nobody said anything to him.
Was he having any seizures on live streams during his video?
Yeah, they like obvious though, right, it would just like he would space out. And it got to the point at the worst part of it where he was taking his wife where she was going to give birth and he didn't know who she was. Oh well, he thought like, if I just keep going along with this, I'm hopefully
going to get the answer. And he's luckily he did all of these different protocols and managed to make I think, like pretty much a full recovery, but which is rather miraculous given to his diagnosis and what the long term the prognosis was really negative.
His story is.
A really interesting one. So I think that you're likely right ash that somebody would notice those things within himselfs and it would seem like he would probably be talking to somebody. But there is always that possibility that people may notice things and just not pointed out because they're like, well, he's got a hold of this like he knows what he's doing well.
At around five forty five am on the morning of April the sixteenth, after saying goodbye to his wife, Phil left his home at his nineteen ninety five Mercury Tracer in order to drive to Lachland Air Force Base, which was located about thirty miles away. This was about an hour earlier than when Phil usually left for work, but he said he needed to catch up on some paperwork that morning. But over the course the next two and a half hours, a bizarre series of events would take
place which have never been adequately explained. Sometime between eight and eight fifteen am, a pair of motorists would report seeing Phil's Mercury Tracer erradically swerving while driving westbound off Interstate ten. This location was relatively close to San Antonio, but he was traveling in the opposite direction of the air Force base. The tracer would drive onto the Interstate Center Medium and travel several hundred yards negotiating between two
light poles before it struck an object. This caused the vehicle to briefly go airborne, but after it came back down on all four wheels, it returned to the interstate and continued traveling westbound. The two motorists behind the tracers said that it drove between sixty to sixty five miles per hour for the next few minutes, but after it passed the exit for John's Road, it veered off the
right shoulder. It then crossed the side medium and the access rode for about forty three feet before it clipped a tree and spun sharply in a clockwise direction until it crashed into a second free with great force. When emergency workers arrived at the scene, they discovered Colonel Shoe's body in the driver's seat as the impact of the crash. It caused a driver's side to cave in, and he
was killed instantly after suffering fatal head trauma. However, it soon became apparent that this was not a normal accident, as Shoe had duct tape wrapped around each of his wrists as well as the top of each of his boots. The loose end of each piece of tape was dangling about four to five inches from his wrists, and since no roll of duct tape could be found at the scene, it almost appeared that she had been bound at some
point before he managed to break free. The colonel also had a number of strange injuries on his body which had clearly not been caused by the crash. The T shirt beneath his Air Force uniform was ripped open from the chest to the navel, and he had a six inch vertical gash in his chest. The distal joint from the pinky finger on Shoe's left hand had been removed, and most disturbingly, both of Shoe's nipples were cut off.
The missing digit and the nipples could not be found inside the vehicle or anywhere near the accident scene, even though she was carrying forty seven dollars in his pants pocket. His wallets and military dog tags couldnot be found either and were never recovered. Since no one could place the colonel at the Wilford Hall Medical Center that morning, it seemed apparent that he never arrived at work and something very odd happened to him during the two and a half hour window after he left his home.
Okay, so we can establish likely that this wasn't a staged car accident. That's what I was initially kind of thinking.
But it's more.
Likely that you would have an attacker in the car with him. Maybe that the attack was supposed to happen with the car parked and Colonel Shoe was able to drive away, or maybe things were fine and he had been subdued and was then able to start attacking his attacker while they're driving. But you see these people watching him veer off, hit an object, go air Morne. Does anyone see the actual crash and have eyes on the vehicle the entire time before emergency responders get there?
Uh? Pretty much? Yeah, Like it's a certainty to me that if he did have an attacker, that person was not in the car with him when it crashed, and that if there was an outside third party involved, it had to have taken place at another location, and Shoe was just driving away as fast as he can for dear life, and if there are any other cars fallowing him that could have been driven by his attack, or it does not sound like any of the motorists noticed.
It, Okay, So there's the likelihood that he was being abused and attacked, and then he gets in his vehicle and flees and possibly like a loss of blood and trauma and shock all that's making it where he's erratically driving and then crashes the car pretty much.
Yeah, Like it was established that the accident was what killed him, but it's just a matter was someone torturing him and trying to kill him before this happened.
That's wild because I was wondering, how did someone have eyes on the vehicle and no one else gets out? But then that makes perfect sense. He actually fled the scene of the attack alone, and then because of the medical repercussions of that abuse, it's.
Likely that he wasn't able to keep control of the car.
Pretty much.
Yeah, if that was done to you, can you imagine how terrified you would be, Like you would not be in your right state of mind. Your adrenaline would be pumping like a million miles a minute, and you're just trying to get away from this horrific scene where somebody's been torturing you. I just have a hard time believing somebody who seemed to be exhibiting no signs of mental distress, somebody who's a psychiatrist who's very educated on these things,
would then remove his nipples. I mean, did they say that the nipples were removed with any kind of like surgical certainty or anything, Robin.
Not really, No, like they think it was done by a cutting tool of some sort, but there wasn't a cutting tool inside the car, So if he did it to himself, he left the nipples and the cutting tool at another location.
And if he did it to himself, he couldn't have done it in the car, most likely because there would be a lot of blood present, right exactly.
They didn't find any blood in there to indicate that they had been removed inside the vehicle. For some reason, Tracy Chu did not learn about her husband's fatal crash for several hours, as the Kendall County Sheriff's Office showed up at her residence to a former about what happened
at around three pm. According to Tracy, even though they did not mention that tape had been wrapped around Phil's wrists and ankles, she was not told about the strange injuries and mutilation to her husband's body until a San Antonio newspaper reporter phoned her up and asked for comment about it about a month and a half later. On the surface, it almost appeared that at some point during his commute to work, Phil had been abducted and tortured
at an unknown location, but managed to escape. He made it back to his own car and attempted to flee, but lost control of the vehicle and was killed before he managed to get help. But believe it or not, after a lengthy investigation which involved several agencies, including the local and state police and the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, they all reached the conclusion that Colonel Schue had suffered some sort of psychological breakdown and his death
was an elaborate suicide. Shoe's autopsy was performed at the office of doctor Vincent Demyo, Medical Examiner of Bear County, Texas. Doctor Demyo was also considered to be one of the top forensic pathologists in the country, and he concurred with
the suicide ruling. According to the two motorists who would follow behind Shoe's Mercury Tracer on Interstate ten, the brake lights never went on when the vehicle veered off the road, and since no skid marks could be found at the scene, it appeared that she made no attempt to stop himself
from crashing into the tree. There were no defensive wounds found on Shoe's body to indicate any struggle had taken place, and the autopsy uncovered scratch abrasions near the gash in his chest, which appeared to be consistent with hesitation marks, almost as if he had been working himself up to
self inflict those wounds. She also had two point four milligrams per leader of an anesthetic called letocane in his system, and it wouldn't have made much sense for a third party to inject him with a pain killer if they were planning to torture him. This made doctor Demiyo suspect that she injected the litocane into himself in order to dull the pain while he slashed his own chest and
cut off his own nipples and fingertip. Demayo did not buy the theory that she was in the midst of attempting to escape from his captors, because he did not make any apparent attempt to seek help. Right before he crashed his car, Shoe drove past several businesses as well as three exits which would have taken him back to
his hometown of Born. In addition, he passed by a patrol car from the Born Police Department, which had pulled over by the side of the interstate to assist a motorists and was easily visible because of its flashing lights. Shoe's cell phone was also found inside his vehicle, but records would show that no calls were made from the phone that morning.
Okay, so now my brain is spinning because the light of cane. Addition, when you look at the injuries and they say that there's quote hesitation marks, quite interesting, and the fact that there's an anesthetic in his body to numb the area that he's cutting, or that someone's cutting. Like you said, it makes no sense that someone who wants to actually hurt you is going.
To do such a thing.
But when you look at the idea of the tape and the just huge gas down the center of his chest, it's bizarre. Where was his wallet? Where were some of these other things? And I think that you can explain no break lights with him losing consciousness. If he was passing out because of a loss of blood or the pain or shock is wearing off and he just loses consciousness, he wouldn't hit the brakes. He would fly off the road and have no break lights going, or the kind of skid marks that come.
The final thing.
No one told his poor wife any of these details. She learns from a newspaper article. I'm just very perplexed about all of this. But the light A Kane completely adds that layer of what the heck happened? Did he do this to himself? That's the one thing, not really hesitation marks, not really all the other things, but the LIGHTO. Kane is the one thing that puts me in the camp of maybe he did do it to himself.
Okay, so he's a doctor. He knows that if he's trying to stage a suicide, they're going to do a talk screen on him, They're going to check for all types of drugs, especially due to the mysterious nature of it. So to use an anesthetic would be counterintuitive, like, yeah, it would help you at the time, but it's not going to help sell your murder theory or if you're trying to frame your ex wife or something like that, or obviously add some kind of mysterious element to what
you're doing. There seems to be some kind of plan, whether it be by his ex wife or by Philip. I'm not sure. I just I also think it's possible that an outside party could if they were trying to make it look like some kind of strange suicide. Maybe there could be the inclusion of LTA Kane. It seems far fetched, but anything is possible.
Yeah, in a few moments we're going to share a potential, alternate, innocent explanation for why he had that lidocane in his system,
which had nothing to do with torture. But a lot of these points they bring up about why he did pull over and try to seek out from the police, Well, Jules just talk about that a few moments ago, about how he must have been terrified and not thinking rationally, so I could give him a pass, Like even though he passed by a police car, if he was in such a panic and it had such an adrenaline rush going on right now, he may not have even noticed it.
And that's why he's driving so fast, because he's terrified and fleeing for his life, and unfortunately he wound up crashing his car.
Two years after Colonel Shoe was killed, the Lachland Detachment of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations produced a twenty page document called the Psychological Autopsy, which also concluded that his death was a suicide. The report represented the position of two boards certified forensic psychiatrists from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. Lieutenant Commander Gerald Donovan and Colonel Elsbeth Cameron Ritchie, who believed that Choo's mental state made
him depressed, anxious, and paranoid. In the months before he was killed, she had been receiving treatment from Lieutenant Colonel Douglas Dion, a staff psychiatrist to the Brooks Army Medicals, and six months before he died, she reportedly told Dion that he'd experienced a dark and disturbing associated episode in which he imagined his cargoing out of control on his way to work while great violence was done to him.
If true, this seemed to support the idea that she would stage the fatal car crash on his own accord well. Needless to say, Tracy Chu did not believe her husband would have taken his own life, as she and philid made plans for the future, and he actually put a deposit down on the house they purchased in Alabama the
day before he died. Tracy's original plan was to have Phil's body cremated and his remains interred at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia, but the suicide ruling changed all that, and she ordered the funeral home to store her husband's body in a refrigerated crypt.
He predicted this exact scenario happening to him.
Well, as we're going to go up talk about later on in the episode. That psychiatrist has disputed this, claiming that Phil never actually said that. But if he did predict it, though, then that does give credence to the idea that he could have staged the whole thing.
Yeah, that's really bizarre.
It's interesting because when you look at this, like she said, he put it down payment on our house. We had these big plans. Now, could he have put it down payment on the home so that Tracy's one step closer to getting her dream home and this house she wants, and then he still takes his own life. Sure, but again it's very bizarre. I think the fact that he was depressed and anxious and paranoid, if you have that going on. One, he's getting help, which I think is incredible.
Two he has these issues with his ex wife I believe you guys alluded to. That's really stressful. He's retiring, changing jobs, moving, starting a new career, and a fellowship for a new medical adventure. So there's a lot of pressure on his shoulders. It doesn't make you suicidal to be anxious and depressed and worried about things. So I mean, yes, that alludes to it, But everyone who's anxious and depressed
is not suicidal, is what I meant. So when you look at this, I just unless he really did predict this, which again would be a tally over in the suicide category, it just seems like, yeah, he was struggling, he's getting help, and he's making plans with his wife. I'm with Tracy where she says, why would he do this? I don't think he would do this? And I think it's incredibly bold that she says, you're not going to get rid of my husband's body yet, I'm not cremating him. You're
actually going to keep him in the refrigerated crypt. How long does he stay there?
He's been there for a couple of years, and he never did get cremated. He finally did get buried. But it sounded like she was on the verge of having him cremated until she got that phone call from the reporter or asking about these details she never knew about, like the removed nipples, and then she just suddenly says, Okay, this is not a standard suicide. We're gonna look closer into this, so I am not going to cremate my husband.
Tracy eventually hired the services of another famous forensic pathologist, doctor Cyril Weckt, who performed his own autopsy. He expressed his disagreement with doctor Demio's original conclusion, as he believed
that another person was likely involved in Shoe's death. Even though Demyo believed that she had injected himself with lydocane in order to dull the pain while inflicting wounds on himself, Wack could not find any injection marks on Phil's body and did not believe there was enough lytocane in his system to have caused much pain relief. Tracy confirmed that on the night before he was killed, Phil was complaining about itchiness since he had chaved his chest in order
to take a cardiac exam. Since Phil had recently self prescribed e MLA cream to himself, doctor Wex's theory was that he may have applied it to his chest in order to combat the itchiness, as e MLA cream has lydocane as one of its ingredients, and a small amount of it could have slipped into Phil's bloodstream after his
chest was sliced open. However, the counter argument to this theory is that the cream also contained an anesthetic called prilocane, but no trace of it was detected in Shoe's system. Another troubling discrepancy Weckt found was that no fingerprints belonging to Shoe or a third party could be found on the duct tape on his wrists and boots, which seemed to go against the idea that Shoe applied the tape himself.
Even if Shoe used gloves to avoid leaving fingerprints, none could be found at the scene, and while a late text glove was visible in the original crime photos, it
looked like it had never been used or worn. So if Colonel Shoe was responsible for inflicting the injuries on himself and staging his own suicide, he would have needed to leave a cutting instrument, both of his nipples, the distal joint from his left pinky finger, his wallet, his dog tags, and possibly some gloves at a location where they were never found, before driving several miles and intentionally crashing his car.
So bizarre, the fact that his wallet and his dog tags are mistakes are really interesting to me, especially how important dog tags are to a military member. It allows you to be identified. It is a way to kind of honor your service to the military. And the fact that they were gone off his body while he's on his way to work on a seemingly normal day is
really odd. Even if he was going to complete suicide, I feel like he would have his dog tags on because Tracy needs to know it's him, And again, I mean, it's something that's also symbolically important. So I'm wondering what he really take it off when his whole life had been dedicated to the military.
Yeah, it really doesn't make any sense for him to take them off on his own. I mean, I suppose if he's had some sort of mental breakdown and he's just not thinking rationally, he would make a decision like that. But it almost seems like if this was a planned murder, that perhaps someone decided to take his dog tags as some sort of memento or souvenir.
It also doesn't seem rational to remove your own nipples and fingers. That too, if we're looking through the lens of somebody who's truly had a mental break then his actions just might not make sense to us.
That's very true, very very true.
One of doctor Demeyo's biggest arguments for Phil having staged the scene is that he never attempted to use his cell phone to call for help. But according to Tracy, one of their neighbors retrieved the phone from the accident scene after getting permission to take it from the authorities. The cell was a clamshell style flip phone model, and the neighbors said when they opened it they noticed a large amount of blood on the inside, though there was
very little blood on the outside. However, since the phone was never taken into evidence and examined, this detail about the blood could not be corroborated. The psychiatrist Phil had been seeing, Lieutenant Colonel Douglas Dion, also believed that he'd been responding well to treatment and did not appear to be suicidal. There's also been some about the story that Phil supposedly shared with him six months prior to his death, where he described an associative episode about his car careening
out of control while traveling to work. Even though this information was included in psychological autopsy report, Dion supposedly maintained that he never shared this story with anyone from the Air Force's Office of Special investigations, and there was no
documentation about it in any of Dion's notes. Tracy managed to exert enough pressure on Kendall County's district Attorney Bruce Curry that he agreed to convene an investigative grand jury to examine her husband's case, but they ultimately concluded that there was no evidence of homicide and the initial suicide
ruling was correct. When Tracy testified at the grand jury proceedings, she mentioned that she had not cremated Phil as originally planned, and instead brought in doctor Wet to perform a second autopsy. This revelation caused Curry to become enraged to confront Tracy in the stairwell, where he stated, quote, since you liked to testify so much, perhaps I should accuse you of the crime and have you end up in the defendant seat end quote.
Wow, all right, well, District Attorney Bruce Curry's a jerk, yeap. That is incredibly horrific. You have a wife who's begging you to look at her husband's death, and she's convinced that it's a homicide. If nothing else, you have a little compassion for a woman who's lost her spouse even if you're deeply convicted that this is a suicide. And when she threatens to have a expert come in on the case to explore her husband's death, what skin off your nose?
Is it right?
She's paying for it. She wants to have it done. You have someone who's grieving and in a state of trauma and her husband either completed suicide and she has to deal with that and or was hurt, and needless to say, she knows the details of his bodily injuries. She knows that for her he left normal that day. Why wouldn't you simply have compassion for her and say, look, if you can get more evident, it's more power to you.
It's almost bizarre when you look at the fact that this psychiatrist says, I never told anyone about this supposed disassociative episode where he's predicting his death in the same way. But it is in the military documents. Could someone within the military have a reason why they want it to look like this was a suicide. Is there a reason why that could have been added in there to justify the suicide ruling and not have it be opened into a possible homicide.
Well, that's what's so weird about it because in a few moments we're going to talk about Phil's ex wife, who was also married to someone in the military, but he was stationed in another state outside of Texas. So if you believe that his ex wife was responsible, then you could wonder if there was a military cover up, But why would Texas be covering up for someone who
was stationed in Florida. But then again, if the ex wife wasn't involved and Phil was murdered by someone completely different associated with the military, than perhaps they would have reasons to fabricate all this evidence and hope that it got ruled as a suicide. So right from the outset, Tracy believed that the person who seemed like the most likely suspect to have murdered her husband was his estranged
ex wife, Nancy Chu Timpson. By this point, Nancy had gotten remarried to Lieutenant Colonel Donald Timpson, who was an active duty pilot in the Air Force Special Forces Unit, and they were both living in Florida. While Phil was with Nancy, she became the beneficiary on a pair of life insurance policies totaling one million dollars, and as part of their divorce settlement, Nancy retained the right to hold on to these policies even though they were no longer married.
Over the years, Phil frequently asked Nancy to cancel the policies, but she refused, claiming she could not afford to the Suspicion about Nancy began in May of nineteen ninety nine, nearly four years before Phil's death, when he received an anonymous, typewritten letter which read quote, please read this letter. You may be in danger. I'm writing because I remember you as such a kind and caring doctor, and I can't just sit by and not help you by telling you
what I know. End quote. The writer then went on to say that a friend of theirs worked with Nancy's husband, Donald, and had heard them say they wished Phil was dead so they could collect his life insurance. The friend apparently thought that the couple may have been planning something, so the writer said they felt the need to type up a letter and send it to Phil in order to warn him. It's been reported that Phil received a second cryptic, anonymous note at a later time, which read quote the
plan is now delayed, but not canceled. Be careful. I can't identify myself because they may find out and stop letting information slip end quote. Phil's response to these letters was to write to Nancy and confront her, and he once again demanded that she dropped the life insurance policy she had on him, stating, quote, I feel helpless to prevent my eventual murder if you hire good assassins and quote.
Nancy wrote Phil back and denied their conversation with Donald about wishing him dead ever took place, and she expressed her belief that someone was playing a sick joke on him and refused to cancel the policies. When Phil tried to lobby the two insurance companies holding the policies US Double A and Northwest Mutual to cancel them on his behalf, they refused. The companies told Phil they were not authorized to cancel the policies since Nancy owned them and kept
paying the premiums. He responded by sending them a letter which read quote thoroughly examined my death for evidence of foul play, even if on the surface the cause would appear natural or accidental end quote.
Well, no wonder the guys getting help for anxiety and depression if he really did receive these two notes. That's horrifying. And you do have someone saying, hey, there is a plan in motion to kill you. I would have quite a bit of anxiety depression in paranoia as well, and
think God fills out there getting help. It's really interesting when he does reach out to her, he's pretty desperate, demanding that she dropped these life insurance policies, and he even mentions eventually, if you hire good assassins, right, how would I avoid getting murdered? Really sad and the way that everything's kind of dissolving in regards to his feeling
of safety because of his ex wife. But once you receive a written letter, knowing that he's on to you, and knowing that there's been this conversation with life insurance policies and things like that, don't you think you need to kind of do it about face and leave the plan because he's on to you. Right, He's already called you out for planning his murder in writing. Wouldn't you stop at that point and be like, oh gosh, we got to do something different.
Think about who you deal with, ash.
Yeah, yes, right, that's true.
I deal with some dark people in my own life.
That you got a battle.
But that's true, and when they're pretty determined to cause a problem, they stick with a plan.
That's very true.
But it's worth noting that Phil received the original letter in nineteen ninety nine and started confronting Nancy about it, and did not actually wind up dead until four years later, So it could be a case where they really were planning it back then but then realized, oh, Phil's on to us, we'd better cool down for a while, but then decided to do it again after enough time it passed.
How long were these policies in effect for did they have an expiration Robin?
I don't think so. I think they were on him until he died. I mean they divorced. I think it was a nineteen ninety two and they stayed on him for over ten years, so I don't think there was an expiration date.
Interesting that her husband was in the Special Forces too.
Yeah, like not just the Air Force, but Special Forces.
According to Tracy, Phil's paranoia about Nancy is what caused him to start showing symptoms of depression and anxiety and seek psychiatric treatment. Well, Tracy thought the anonymous letter was a piece of evidence which supported the idea that her husband was the victim of foul play. Investigators suspected that Phil had actually typed up the letter himself and fabricated
the entire threat from his ex wife. They found it odd that Phil never made any attempt to bring the letter to the police, but Tracy maintained that because Phil held a top secret security clearance, he had to follow a specific chain of command and notify his own superiors about what was happening before he involved any outside agencies. Tracy claimed that Phil did show the letter to his superiors, but they seemed to dismiss the idea that it represented
a real threat against him. No conclusive evidence was ever found to prove that Phil was the author of the letter, and unfortunately, it was never tested for DNA or fingerprints. When questioned, Nancy claimed that both she and Donald had alibis, which proved they were at work in Florida on the
date that Phil was killed. Nancy also turned down the police's request to take a polygraph, and since Donald held a top secret security clearance, he would not have been allowed to take a police polygraph even if he wanted. At one point, Nazi's lawyers stated that he believed Phil's death was a result of attempting to fake an abduction in order to make it look like his ex wife had harmed him.
I do believe that Phil would have had to go through his own chain of command. That's a really important thing in the military. They get really upset when you jump over a person in your chain of command. Right, you take an issue to your supervising officer, and then they handle it. If they can't handle it, they go above them.
So they help escalate the issue.
So here, I don't think it's crazy if Phil said, Hey, I'm going to go to my commanding officer and show him.
That this is what I received.
Right, But then when you look at this idea that he would have written up the letters himself, I don't know, that's pretty crazy. Yes, there's a lot of trauma dealing with a volatile ex wife, and I can see where he might feel desperate, like I need to do something to get away from her and maybe get her to drop these life insurance policies.
But overall, it just doesn't seem.
Like someone who's so I don't know, so stable in his career and continuing his education all these things that he's going to keep slipping in these major ways, that's pretty elaborate to go after your ex wife by faking death threats to yourself.
And let's also remember I'm reiterating again, the letters originally appeared in nineteen ninety nine, and Phil didn't die until two thousand and three. So is he really like typing up all these letters and faking this for over four years before he decided to end his own life well. Two months after the accidents, Tracy filed a civil lawsuit in hopes of preventing Nancy from collecting on Phil's one
million dollar life insurance policies. Nancy was named as a defendant in addition to the two insurance companies US Double A and Northwest Mutual, as Tracy believed they had a legal obligation to cancel the policies after being informed the threat to Phil's life. Phil and Nancy's son, Jeffreyschue, was named as a third party defendant in the lawsuit, as Phil had removed Jeffrey as the secondary beneficiary from his will only five days before his death and replaced him
with Tracy's sister. According to Tracy, Phil was concerned about Jeffrey's ability to manage money, as he had gone through a bankruptcy the previous year, which was partially brought on by gambling debts. Jeffrey was also in the midst of his second marriage, which Phil did not believe have much stability, and he feared that any inheritance his son received could
be squandered in a divorce settlement. When Nancy was given a videotaped deposition as part of the lawsuit and asked about her re ex husband's death, she pleaded the Fifth Amendment on over twenty questions in order to avoid self incrimination. It was never established if Jeffrey found out he had been removed from his father's will prior to his death, as he filed an affid David invoking his Fifth Amendent privilege and declined to speak with law enforcements and military investigators.
In June of two thousand and eight, Tracy civil lawsuit was ready to go to trial in Kendall County Court of Law, but by this point Nancy, Jeffrey, and Northwestern Mutual have been dropped as defendants as one million dollar settlement agreement have been made between them. US double A was the only remaining defendant and they were still facing potential liability issues for refusing to cancel their life insurance
policy on phil. Halfway through the trial, Judge Bill Palmer suddenly dismissed the jury after announcing that the two parties had reached an agreement and he could make a ruling about the case on his own. In the end, Judge Palmer ruled that US double A had done nothing wrong by refusing to cancel Colonel Shoe's insurance policy and were not liable for damages. But he also surprised everyone by stating, quote, the evidence considered by the court substantiates of finding that
Colonel Philip Schue was murdered. The Court therefore finds that the April sixteenth, two thousand and three death of Colonel Philip Schue was a hobbs hide end quote My goodness.
Okay, So here's what's really interesting. Tracy and Phil changed life insurance policies to have the beneficiary be her sister in the event that Tracy also is deceased and not his son. I can see where Jeffrey being removed is not wild, because he's showing these signs of just being not stable really in this midst of trauma and turmoil himself, and I can see where Dad would take him out. But you know, I don't blame Nancy and her husband for not wanting to take a polygraph or for really
pleading the fifth either. She doesn't have anything to gain or to lose in this whole element because she didn't do anything wrong on paper, she paid a premium, the man who is the deceased is dead, and now she gets to collect the life insurance policy. It's pretty darn simple happens. I did what I was supposed to do by paying it, he died, I get the money. Anything she says does not work in her favor. She doesn't
supposedly know anything about it. So on the surface, as dysfunctional as their divorce was and continued relationship was, what does she gain by saying anything in that deposition. Worst thing that happens is they have to prove that she likely killed her husband before they take her money away. Otherwise she's sitting pretty just keeping her mouth shut.
It just looks so sketchy that she's pleading the fifth on this, and then when you add her son is also pleading the fifth. I know that you have a right in the American court not to incriminate yourself but
what would you be incriminated on? And I get your point, ash for sure that like opening your mouth, you know, you could open a door to any number of things, and a good attorney can cut into your words that you're saying and pick them apart and maybe weed out some deception in there or weed out some things that don't look good. So it's better to just say nothing at all. But it just it always looks sketchy when people do it.
And obviously one of the most infamous examples was Mark Furman and the OJH. Simpson trial, where he planed the fifth on every question, even the question did you plan any evidence or plant the bloody glove against OJ Simpson? And because he didn't answer, a lot of the jury members thought that the whole evidence planting thing was true.
Don't they pretty much like if they're going to plead the fifth at all, don't they pretty much do and across the board plead the fifth?
Yeah, I think I think normally a defense attorney or an attorney would.
Tell you.
Need to just plead the fifth and if you're gonna do that, you do it for everything so that it doesn't look suspicious when that one question you plead the fifth on but you've been open and transparent about everything else, because then it does have that indication of guild. If you simply say basically, I'm not engaging, which is what Nancy did here. If you're just not going to engage, then you just weren't interested in engaging, right, And again you're keeping your mouth shut so that nothing.
Could be used against you.
So I think it's pretty consistent you either start that way and say I'm not going to answer anything, or if you're going to invoke that on one.
Question, it would look quite bizarre.
Well, Judge Palmer requested that Shoe's death certificate officially be changed from suicide to homicide. Kendall County officials refused to do so, and they did not believe that Palmer had the authority to make that determination. Months later, the Texas Attorney General ruled that Shoe's death certificate would not have to be changed, so his cause of death is still
officially listed as a suicide to this day. In March two thousand and nine, the story would receive national exposure when the TV show forty eight Hours aired an episode titled The Curious Case of Colonel Shoe. Shortly Thereafter, Tracy was contacted by a witness who'd watched the show and thought they might have an important piece of new information.
On the morning Colonel's shoe was killed. This witness said that they'd been driving on a rural road leading to Interstate ten, which Phil normally would have taken on his route to work. They remembered seeing Phil's mercury tracer off the side of the road, and a blue van with tinted windows was parked directly behind it. What was particularly interesting about this location is that the ground had a natural deposit of calichet, a sedimentary rock which produces a
white clay substance. According to the autopsy report, at the time Phil was found, the bottom of his boots were caked with mud and a white powdery substance, but investigators never bothered to analyze it. The forty eight Hours episode contained interviews with Lieutenant Roger Anderson of the Kendall County Shriff's Office, who'd been the top ranking official at the crash scene that morning and became an advocate for Tracy Schue.
He openly acknowledged that the investigation was mishandled and that he lost control of the scene as there was a jurisdictional beef between all different law enforcement agencies who showed up there, including the Kendall County Shriff's Office, Warrene Police Department, and the Texas State Police. Since Colonel Shoe's death was not believed to be a homicide, his vehicle was never possessed as a potential murder scene, an important evidence may
have either been lost or never collected. Tracy has claimed that even though Kendall County authorities have asked her to pick up her husband's wrecked car from the impound yard on several occasions, she always refused to do so because
she believes the vehicle is a crime scene. After Tracy changed her mind about having him cremated, Phil was finally buried at Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors, But in a tragic PostScript to this story, his son Jeffrey, unexpectedly passed away in October twenty fifteen at the age
of forty five following a brief illness. While Colonel Shoe's death has never officially been reclassified as a homicide, his loved ones are still searching for answers and the official circumstances of what happened remained unclear, So.
I guess you could say the path went chili.
This is one of those cases where you see exactly what we harp on. When you don't investigate properly, you get one shot and one shot only. And so when they arrived on that scene and they declared this is a suicide, and then they're basically telling his wife come get the car. We don't need to do any further exploration of this crime scene or this scene. You can come get all of his things. They blew it, even if it really was.
Ultimately a suicide. We always talk about how you approach.
The scene as a homicide, especially when you look at this case.
No one would have showed up on that scene and.
Said this is a usual, typical, expected type of suicide.
You would say, what the heck happened here? It's bizarre.
You have missing nipples, a missing digit of a finger, his wallet and dog tags are gone, he's driving away from his place of work, he never know he has a gash in his chest, all these things that seem so just like a movie. Why would you ever approach as anything? But we need to have a very very thorough investigation here and assume it's a homicide, photograph everything, test everything, and at the end, if it really does
appear to be a suicide, it's a suicide. But it's like they called it, and they pushed everything out aside, and they lost that chance to investigate. And I think that's why Tracy was so upset. She got a call that her husband had completed suicide and that he was dead, and then she gets information later of all these bizarre things that occurred, and she said, had I known that, I would have questioned the suicide even more from the start,
Why didn't anybody else? And so I really feel for her where she's just refusing to let go of this idea of someone look deeper into this because it's so bizarre. Why didn't anybody else when they arrived on the scene have that same attitude.
I think it's so tenant telling that Lieutenant Roger Roger Anderson, Uh yeah, yeah, as it Yeah, the Lieutenant Roger Anderson, who was the highest ranking official on the scene, believes that it was mishandled and has been an advocate for Tracy. I think that is really really telling. And the fact that they were just so quick to assume that this was a suicide and not investigate it as a murder and then let the evidence lead where it may is kind of shocking.
And you think that at the very least they would say, Hey, his wallet and dog tags and his nipples are missing and there's no cutting tool, Let's perform a search of the area of like the wooded areas, just to see if we can find them, and if we do, we can conclusively prove if this was a homicide or a suicide. But the fact that they didn't even bother to do
that is pretty frustrating. So, like I mentioned in the intro, we've covered a lot of cases in which a victim's death was ruled to be a suicide, but their loved ones were adamant that foul play had taken place. But the circumstances of this one are a bit more complex. Regardless of what actually happened to Colonel Phillips Shoe, the one indisputable fact about this case is that his exact
cause of death was a car crash. While the authorities believed that Shoe inflicted a bunch of wounds on himself before intentionally crashing his vehicle as part of an elaborate suicide. His loved ones believed that he was in the midst of being tortured by a third party and managed to escape and flee the scene, but wound up getting into
a fatal accident before he could get help. Even if conclusive evidence was found to prove that someone held Colonel Shoe captive and tortured him that morning, could they be charged with murder? I mean, I'm sure they would be charged with something, But Shoe's death technically took place while he was behind the wheel of his own car, and while he was obviously at a diminished capacity because of
his ordeal. I'm sure this would be a pretty complicated legal situation if a suspect was ever brought to trial. But while Tracy Chue and everyone who cared about Phil want justice for his death, I'm sure one of their most important priorities is to clear his name and debunk the official cover story that he killed himself. This was a particular, regularly horrible tragedy for Phil's parents, Bruce and Miriamshau, who both lived until their late nineties and had to
endure the loss of all four of their sons. In addition to losing Phil, they lost an infant son named Stephen, back in nineteen forty six, their oldest son, Norman when he passed away in nineteen ninety nine at the age of sixty four, and their last surviving son, Roger, who died of a sudden illness in twenty ten at the age of fifty nine. And if that wasn't enough, Phil's son Jeffrey, would also unexpectedly pass away due to illness
at age forty five. And virtually every case like this, the victim's loved ones will insist that they were not suicidal and had everything to live for. But like we've mentioned countless times on this podcast, sometimes people will suddenly take their own lives without any warning whatsoever and completely
surprise everyone. I know that Phil and Tracy had made a number of plans for the future, and he was only six months away from retiring from the military and starting a new chapter of his life, But since he had spent the past few years seeking treatment for depression and anxiety, I think it's a stretch to say that suicide was an absolutely impossible option.
I would have to agree with you. I think it's a possible option for everyone. Right when you think about mental health and how there are quick onset mental health breakdowns, and there are mental health diseases that affect a lot of people, and sometimes they're just unpredictable. You don't know what's going to happen inside your brain. So I think suicide is something that when you say it could never
happen to us, she would have never done that. I don't think that that's ever a statement that can be one hundred percent true, because again, it's not the rational person that you know thinking in that moment.
You know, earlier, I was.
Trying to explain things away and Jules is like, remember, probably irrational in that moment, I thought, oh, yeah, that's true. It's not the person you know that's taking their own life. It's someone who's been hiding something or had an onset of something pretty sudden that has them not in their right mind. So yeah, is it possible for sure? Is it easy to believe given the lifestyle he has and where he's at in his life. No, he's retiring from
the military. He's gonna have the best package and financial situation.
He's got a.
New career he's pursuing in forensic psychiatry at the University of Alabama. They're moving to a home they've already put a down payment on. He's with his second wife, who's his dream girl, and he's you know, getting away from a scenario where he's fussing with his ex wife, right, he's just at least getting to move and have a fresh start somewhere.
So I just I don't know.
It's not likely. Is it possible? One thousand percent? It's possible for anybody.
I think.
I'm just struggling with the motivation, Like, what would be if you wanted to end his own life? I completely understand that, But what would be the motivation to basically fake a murder? Are you trying to screw Nancy over so badly that you're going to frame her for murder when she didn't kill you. It just seems bizarre. And if he was irrational at the time, he might be
making really irrational decisions. But if he did indeed do this to himself, he was rational enough to think, I will inject myself with Leta Kane before I do these grievous injuries to myself like cutting off nipples and finger and gashing oneself across the chest. And maybe there was those hesitation marks. If that's indeed what it was if he did do this. I'm just really really struggling with why.
I guess you'll turn. An example is that some people try to make their suicide look like a homicide because they don't want anyone else to know they completed suicide. They don't want to go out on those terms, so they want to make it look like they were killed and that they didn't make a conscious choice to take their own life.
Now, there are doctor umented cases in which victims have killed themselves and gone to great lengths to ensure their deaths do not look like suicide. Those slicing open your chest and cutting off both your nipples and a joint from your pinky finger before deliberately crashing your car does seem like a pretty horrific way to end your own life.
The reason that vehicular suicides are so risky is that you could end up paralyzed or a vegetable, which would be a fate worse than death for a suicidal person. One of the big issues with how Colonel Schue died is that he didn't crash head on into a tree, but instead drove off the road and clipped one tree before he spun into his second tree with such force that he was killed by the impact. I don't think anyone could predict with absolute certainty that a crash like
that would end their life. But then again, if Shue was in a very dark place and suffered a complete psychological breakdown, he may not have been in the most rational state of mind that morning. And all that being said, even though there are a number of details about Sho's death which point to the involvement of a outside party, it's really hard to come up with a scenario involving
abduction and torture that makes much sense. We've read the psychological autopsy report that was produced by the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, and while there are definitely issues with some of their conclusions, they do make some valid points which seem to blow holes in the foul play theory.
She left his home and his Mercury tracer that morning in order to make the thirty mile commute to work, and theoretically there should have been no reason for him to stop anywhere and put himself in a position to be abducted. You also have to take into account that she took a break from his ordinary routine by leaving an hour earlier than usual in order to catch up
on some paperwork at his office. So unless someone was watching him when he left, how could they have known that she would be out there driving on the road at that particular time. The biggest issue with figuring out what happened is that we've got zero evidence if shees whereabouts during the two and a half hour window between when he left his residence at five forty five A and his car was seen driving erratically down Interstate ten
between eight and eight fifteen am. All we really have is an eyewitness who came forward six years after the fat and recalled seeing the mercury tracer off the side of the road with the blue van parked directly behind it. This sighting took place on a road Shoe ordinarily would have used to drive onto the interstate during his commute to work, so I could see someone intercepting and abducting him. But if so, where did they take him to be tortured?
Since the duct tape on Shoe's wrist was torn, this suggests that he might have been tied to a chair at some point before he broke free. But where was this location if she was abductor or abductors forced him into the van against his will and traveled elsewhere did someone else drive the tracer there? Remember Shoe died while driving the tracer, so if he managed to escape, he had to wind up back in his own car at
some point. No matter which side of the fence you're on, there are a lot of unexplained gaps about how she got from point eight to point B.
So shue Is had to have either driven his tracer towards work or met somebody somewhere, because he is eventually found in his own vehicle. But like you just said, if he was abducted or he's being tortured somewhere, it looks like someone else had to intervene and find him. So where was that location? The idea that he would have the duct tape is what is really bizarre to me. The injuries. Could you self inflict injuries, yes, but they're dramatic.
They're cutting his chest, they're cutting off the nipples, they're cutting off a digit of his finger. All that's incredibly bizarre. But what would motivates you to actually do exactly what you said? Fake that you were almost tied to a chair somewhere and had to break free, which would make sense if he had been abducted, that that really occurred.
So it's all very confusing. You have that maybe someone pulled up behind him at some point, which could be that second party, but we know nobody was in the car.
When he crashed.
I think that he likely was fleeing from something or somebody and was in a state of shock and panic and losing blood. And that's why you never see tail lights, That's why you never see skid marks. He's actually just losing consciousness and coming off the road. He seems so normal that morning. Could he have completed suicide? Sure, anything's possible.
Be one of the most bizarre suicides in history, probably, but the other being abducted, being tortured, breaking free from some cherry or taped to seems very plausible when you look at this evidence. I don't think he would have pulled over to get help. I think he would have been in a state of shock, and then when that's wearing off is when he would crash the car.
Yeah, it definitely does seem to me that him being abducted and towards it makes a lot more sense than him staging elaborate suicide. But like I said, The big issue is that I cannot figure out how things got to that point. I mean, we mentioned that his cell phone was found and there was no record of him having made any calls that morning, so it doesn't sound like he made any plans to meet anyone. So it could have been just a thing where someone pulled out in front of him and got him to pull over
somehow and that's when he was abducted. But it still makes you wonder like where, if he was being tortured, where exactly did this occur. Where was there a chair to duct tape into? And what happened to these people after Shoe tried to flee the scene, And he.
Did have to drive on some rural roads in order to get to work on the interstate, correct that is true?
Yes, Like he didn't immediately go to the interstate, so I could see someone intercepting him and abducting him in a rural area without any witnesses around.
And I'm assuming that Tracy never heard anything that he was going to meet up with somebody, or that he had a meeting before work or anything like that.
I mean, he did say that he was leading earlier than usual, about an hour earlier. Because he had some extra paperwork to do. So theoretically that could have been a lie that maybe he had a secret meet up with someone and that's why he was leaving early. But if so, they never found any phone records or any emails or anything to prove that theory.
I wish they could analyze that cell phone. When you look at the idea that there was a lot of blood inside the phone but not on top, it's really really interesting, and they didn't. They just like the rest of the evidence, they said, oh, it's a suicide, no need to investigate further.
And there were.
Things there that might have given more information to police.
So now this would be a good time to bring an into Part one. Join us next week as we present part two of our series about the unexplained death of Colonel Philip Shoe.
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