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The Padded Room Podcast Ep.678 (Antlers)

May 21, 20251 hr 38 minEp. 1038
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Summary

This episode dives deep into horror, discussing major news like the expanding Jason Universe and the trailer for Stephen King's Welcome to Derry series. The main segment features a detailed review of the depressing folk horror film Antlers. Plus, the hosts share listener mail on horror movie rankings, review true crime classic In Cold Blood, and discuss recent horror films and video games.

Episode description

Science gone wrong, life in small town Oregon, true crime classics, Native American horror and Antlers

Transcript

Oh just the kids. Pat in room. Welcome back on the air, baby doll. My name is still Darian. I am still here doing the same goddamn thing for I don't even know how long anymore. It's been that long. My main man Dusty is here. Hello, hello. What's going on, Big Dust? Oh, you know. Same old shit, buddy. I hear you. It just keeps going and going, man. Buddy is not here with us this week. Apparently there were some complications with his son's surgery. So he is probably going to be out for...

at least a couple of weeks. Good news, little guy's doing okay, just Doesn't look like it went 100% the way it was supposed to. All right, we're wishing him a speedy recovery. Absolutely. Absolutely. We'll keep you abreast of the situation with him and his son, though, so we'll wish him a speedy recovery and hope he We got a bit of a horror show to get to. Oh, yeah. The last volleyball tournament of the season was last. Oh, nice. So, how long until the next season starts? Well, she's doing...

training now, but that doesn't involve travel. Oh, well that's good. That's just three days a week practice, which is manageable. That's cool. No more over the hills. No more California. Weekends. We got them back, so that's nice. Enjoy it while it lasts, dude. Because mine are gone.

Probably until they get to college. Yeah, yeah. Son of a bitch. Son of a bitch! I signed up for it, and I pay for this. Well, that's what I was thinking, is like, you know, when they're all off and don't want nothing to do with us, when they're in their... 18, 20s, you know. Yeah. Then what are we going to do? I know. With our life. I know. I know. That's what I keep telling myself.

There will be a day when I miss going to the sports dome and spending $300 to $500 a week. Yeah, you can still go there, but you'd be a creeper. You'd be a creeper, yeah. You don't want to do that anymore. One of the dads from my football team did that. We canceled practice. For some reason, he didn't get the email. He's a single dad, so the kid's mom brings him down, and then he picks him up from practice and leaves.

So he's down there just hanging. I think he had a corn dog and he chilled out for a little while. All right. Bit of a weirdo. Bit of a little strange there, you know. You know, there was a golf shop about, you know, six doors down. You can go... Whack a few balls. Yeah, you can do something. Other than watching children play sports. There's some really great games here.

On the weekends. This one over here, the red team and the blue team are very competitive. Oh, they don't like each other. All right, there. 300 yards, I believe, is the same distance. All right, man. Well, we got horror news and listener mail and all kinds of fun stuff happening. I say we kick it off horror news. Horror news.

All right, big fellow, what do you got? All right, so this is pretty exciting. I'm excited. Super exciting. Okay, I'm ready. We are not only getting, right, a Crystal Lake TV show. Right. We are getting a Jasonverse. Okay. With TV shows, new movies, games. merch, other media, and they basically are saying that it's all kind of tied in. to the same new Jasonverse.

Okay. And they revealed a new design for Jason, and there's a new logo, the Jason Universe logo that they dropped. All right. He looks pretty good. Okay. He kind of harkens back to... i don't know friday the 13th maybe three kind of look okay you know the button-up disheveled shirt and the boots and the jean the dark jeans but the mask is kind of distinct it's still the jason boris mask but it only has 13 holes, so just down the middle, in the eye holes, and it still has that.

the paint on it you know the red paint sure so it's a pretty cool picture so when they like i said they're they're doing this for a whole new jason verse jason universe so i'm pretty excited yeah A couple of thoughts. Obviously, it's going to have to take place in the 70s. And I would venture to say at this point, the Jason mask at this point is more synonymous with the NHL hockey mask. Yeah. It's more synonymous with Friday the 13th than it ever had anything to do with hockey, right?

I think we can move on from the hockey mask. Well, he's the only one using it anymore, right? Well, I'm sure there's other guys out there wanting to kill people. Where would you even find a 70s hockey mask? That's what I'm saying. You've got to buy one. Or you've got to make one. Get it off Etsy. I don't know. I was always a big fan of Sackhead Jason. I thought he was a pretty scary guy. Friday the 13th part 2.

I don't know what you replace it with, though, because these days the goalies don't wear the mask. They have like a face helmet deal, which I don't know. No, that doesn't seem to see his face right through that thing. Um, maybe like a, um... I don't know what you can do to make it work. A welder's mask. huh yeah sure i mean it's kind of big and bulky But it wouldn't be any sillier than that thing in, uh,

in a violent nature. Fireman mask. Whatever the hell that fucking thing was. Well, I'm excited. Me too. Revitalizing that franchise. It's about time. Yeah, they must have got through all the licensing disputes. and whatnot. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, let's full steam ahead with Jason Universe, I guess. Let's do it, yeah. I think they're supposed to drop that Crystal Lake prequel series.

I think this October is what I've heard rumblings of. Let's go. Not confirmed, but there are rumblings of that. I don't know about rumblings. You never know because there's been many rumblings of things Friday the 13th that never came to fruition. My son has had the shits all weekend. Those are all kinds of rumblings coming from that room, the bathroom. I don't like it. Yeah, that's not a good rumbling. No bad rumblings. Nothing to do with Jason Voorhees. No.

All right, what else you got, man? All right, and I got another one kind of dropped today, which is pretty exciting, too, is the trailer for Stephen King's Welcome to Dairy has just dropped today. I watched it. Looks really good. Very in the vein of the the movies and and the kids and fighting the uh many wise and

This one's supposed to take place in 1962. Okay. And the director, creator, same guy that did the first two movies, Andy Muschietti, is saying, well, him and his wife, they would like to do... They envisioned a three... season run of welcome to dairy and basically what they want to do is take the second season go back to 1935 and then the third season go back to 1908.

And they want to base it off all the interludes that are in the book that talk about all the bad shit that happened over the 27-year spans. Every time he comes out of hibernation, something bad happens, obviously. So the fire at the black spot.

the massacre of the Bradley gang, and then the explosion at that Kitchener Ironworks. So basically it's like they want to explore each one of those things that they kind of glanced over in the interlude portion where they're learning the history of Benny Wise. and explore those time frames with a whole season worth of shows. Yeah. I like it. I'm into it. I'm excited for it. It looks great. I saw the trailers.

There were other Stephen King things, short stories and such, that kind of took place in and around Derry. Oh yeah, that's always mentioned in multiple works. I wonder if we can maybe like... sprinkle a little bit of that in Yeah, I have to remember. I can't remember which all of them that happened in or around Derry. I do know. Did you ever read that 11-22-63 about? The guy that goes back in time to stop the JFK assassination. I did not read that one. Okay, well...

it's basically, it's kind of a butterfly effect thing, right? So you go back and he figures out where Oswald was going to be and he stops him from killing Kennedy. He comes, well, backtrack, the portal to 1963, if you will. is in a back like... broom closet of a diner that's in dairy okay so dairy is in that okay in that book right right and but every time he goes back to do something he comes back and he comes back the next time and everything's everything's fucked like it's

post-apocalyptic, everything's fucked. Yeah. So the Russians bombed us because Kennedy wasn't assassinated. You know, all this shit happened. Right, right. So you have to go back and try to fix shit. Try to fix the fucking thing. Okay. But that's one example of Derry being in the books. Dreamcatcher was another one. The four guys came from Derry. Although the alien invasion didn't take place. It was in the mountains. Yeah, up in...

Nova Scotia or something like that. But there was a lot of references to those guys and the alien Down Syndrome kid. things that happened in their childhood. And it could go a lot of different ways. I mentioned it a couple times in the Dark Tower series. Oh, I'm sure. So, yeah. Right on. Yeah. Anything else? That's it. What do you got, buddy? Dude, dude, dude. Are you ready?

for deathgasm the video game that sounds awesome uh it could be i don't know it might be dumb as shit be honest with you is it uh they're doing all these side-scrollers now. They're making a Terminator video game, side-scroller, but like uber-violent kind of thing. Now, I can't tell you anything about this other than it hits Kickstarter next month, but you can kick-start Deathgasm the video game. I don't know. If it's going to Kickstarter...

I don't have my hopes up. Well, that's kind of where they go to start. I think that's where that, there's a Terminator one coming out. There's, another property I couldn't remember but Anyway, that's kind of the thing now. And they're just doing like a... A 16-bit thing. Kind of like a side-scroller. I think there's an Art the Clown video game. All kinds of fun stuff. Scream Factory is releasing a Mario Bava collection. 12 movies. I might have to pick that up. Are those the...

Do they steal books and that kind of stuff? No, it'll probably just be a big box set. I'm into it. I like some Bava every now and then. A little hankering for some Italian. It's probably going to be $300. I can sneak that past the white. Gotcha. As long as she doesn't see the box actually show up. Get to the mailbox quick, Dusty. Get it out of there. Got to have a little squirrel hole. That's right. Squirrel away some money. Yeah.

Where'd you get the money for this? I don't know. Oh, you know. It was cheaper than I thought it was going to be. Yeah, it was on sale. Got a two-for-one on a thing with this. That's stupid. They're not buying it, Dusty. They're wise to our fucking games. I'm telling you right now. They're keeping up a fucking tab, and then when the divorce papers come in, they're going, oh.

Looks like that Mario Bava thing was $300. Asswipe. Yeah, after 18 years, I don't think we can squeeze anything past it. No, no. How do you feel about the Maniac Cop movies? I like it. Yeah? You've seen all three of them? I haven't seen the third. I've seen the first two. Third one is completely bananas. That's where it's like Bride of Maniac Cop, basically.

All three movies are getting a novelization by Christian Francis. I might just pick that up for a little road read. I was going to say, if it creeps up on Audible, I might just have to pick that up. That's a fascinating character. I'd like to know more about the backstory and how the hell...

He became undead. Exactly. That's one thing I didn't like. They never kind of tell you why. No, at the end of part one, he just punches out of the coffin. And then part two, you can shoot the piss out of him and he doesn't care. Well, don't ask questions. Are you watching Yellowjackets at all? I have not. The wife's watched both. Is there two seasons now? Three. I believe we're halfway through three right now. Yeah, no, I haven't watched that one. I heard good things.

I did you. Okay, well now I'll have to put her on the list. Yeah, all I know is there's like Lord of the Rings with a volleyball team. Lord of the Flies, yeah. Well, maybe that too. I don't know. I don't know. I thought it was, yeah, like a cannibalistic thing that gets stuck in the woods or something. Yeah, they get stuck on an island. They start forming their own little groups. I've seen some internet videos with two young ladies stuck in various places.

Oh, yeah. I think I've seen those, too. Okay. We'll have to do some more research on it. Yeah, I would definitely do some more research. It's already been renewed for a fourth season. So it must be good. It must be. It must be doing something. Might as well watch it, I guess. Lastly, here's something I'm very excited for. There is a 1982 film that is shot directly on video called Sledgehammer.

Quite a lot of people would point to this as the worst film ever made. It's about a guy that kills people with a sledgehammer, but it looks like it was shot with your mom's camcorder by a bunch of your high school buddies. You can watch it on Shudder right now if you want. It is getting a Blu-ray treatment from Terror Vision. Are they going to upscale it? I mean, it looks like shit. Even the upgraded version that they have on Shudder still looks like shit. It's that weird.

I don't know what the fuck that was, man, but remember when we were kids and, like, you'd stay home sick from school and the soap operas would pop on? Yeah. And they always looked like real fuzzy. Yes. Whatever that was. Gotcha. I don't know what that was. When the high-def TVs first came out, I remember a buddy of mine had, like,

the best one that I've ever seen. Yeah. And it had that effect, like the soap opera effect was so... clear but it had fuzz you know like I was saying so it looked like you were watching a soap opera but it was regular TV yeah yeah and so I was like I don't really like that I don't know I don't know what that is it looks terrible but I'm interested to see what a 4K Blu-ray would look like for Sledgehammer. And yes, I will be purchasing that.

And at some point, you and your wife will come over and you will sit out there and you will fucking watch it. Yeah, you put her up on the summer movie night. I think there's like some weird rapey stuff going on. I don't know if I want the whole neighborhood seeing that. And that was how I became a sex offender, Dustin. All right on, dude. I think it's time for some listener mail, then. Sounds good. Listener mail. Here comes our main man in Alabama, Allen's in the house. How's it going, Allen?

Hi in the room, what's up? Everybody's doing good. Let's see. Think about car couples. Number three, I'm surprised nobody brought them up. Captain Tiffany. Number two, Otis and baby. If I remember correctly, they're not blood siblings. Okay. And... Number one, Mickey and Mallory. Mickey and Mallory. Mr. Darian, you are... Uh, the fly. Ah, you got me. And the character Francois, and I remember this because the Mitch Fett song, Return of the Fly. Yep.

Anyway, I watched The Ugly Stepsister. What'd you think? That was something else. Yes, it was. It wasn't extremely boring. Okay. But the scene still got to me, I guess, maybe because it was presented realistically. and strings and just It just made you uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When she pukes up the tape for her. That was a good movie. Yeah, buddy. But it was the toe chopping. Yeah. That was something else. Anyway, I watched Nova Tane about this guy who can't feel pain, so, and his

The bankers get robbed and the chick who he had fallen in love with and he proceeds to go after them. It's an action comedy. One of the coolest scenes is he does the type A I'm here for one support from Monday. I'm representing... Rex's hands in broken glass. Yeah, he does this with just banging his hands in broken glass. It's a cool movie. Talk to y'all later. Have a good one. Beautiful. Thanks for calling in, Alan. Okay.

There's a horror movie about the same thing, Guy Can't Feel Pain. It's called Trilogy. called malevolence um and then like i have all three of them and the bonus features actually talk about the condition where you simply don't have a pain index it's actually very dangerous oh yeah because you can hurt yourself pretty bad and not even know it so that's kind of scary

Yeah, the wife was watching that one. She was running on the treadmill. I was like, what are you watching? And I saw that exact scene that Alan's talking about where he's punching his hands into the glass on the ground and then he goes after this. I think it was a Russian mob dude. I don't know who he was. Sure. Yeah, just punches him in the face and stuff. All right. It's gnarly. Okay. I went to it. When I finished the movie, I just saw that scene. Right on. Here comes Mr. Tom Hardy. Hey-o!

What's going on, Tom? Hello, padded room. How's my favorite teacher on Earth this week? What's up, egg guy? I do hope everyone is doing well. Hey, I got a bunch of someone to get into. Let's get it. Get to it. Real quick there, Darren, from last week. Huh. You had mentioned you were unsure about... Ash, Ash, and those, uh, fucking... Yes. Uh, she was born in 75. She's older than me. I was born in 75 as well. You're older than me!

You know, humble brag here. I graduated high school at 18. That would be 1993. Okay. The Dandel syndrome didn't come out until 19. Okay. I guess I would put her at, what, 21? Okay. All right. Fucking jack away, I guess. I'll set up a target. Good looking out, Tom. I think I got this one, but I feel like there's one detail that I'm not matching up. Are you the fly? Yes, sir. Well done.

Fuck, I feel like there's one detail that's not matching up in there. No, you got it. Okay, what are you looking at? I threw in some shit. I don't know about you. Sometimes you're having a bucket. Bung Day or whatever. You just throw in some shit that you just have seen dozens of times, but you still like to rewatch. Yeah. For me, that was Bubba Hotep. Okay. John dies at the end.

I'll never understand that movie. I'd still love it. Okay. Both by the director of Phantasm. Yep. I'll have to watch Zombie from Lucho Fultz. Alrighty. Still feeling the Italian. The Last Man on Earth with Vincent Price. First time viewing for me.

I don't know. You know what you're getting when it's black and white. You know what you're getting when it's Vincent Price. You're not going to get fucking blood, guts, and gore. It's not going to be particularly terrifying. No. first adaptation of I Am Legend, you know, then became Omega Man, and then I guess the, uh,

I agree. I also got to catch The Screaming this fall, which is another fucking 60s black and white. Yeah, you went back to the classics. Actually, this one here was colorized. Oh, no. And it's free on crime. Never a good thing. I said, fuck it, let's give it a run. Don't fucking watch the color eyes. You're going to feel like you're getting fucking sick or something. The guy walked out of the bushes and half of him is still green and some of the bushes are white. I don't

Yeah. The movie itself is not anything fucking fantastic or particularly great, but one thing I really did want to talk about, and I'm curious if anybody's seen it and is remembering the... GP. GP. colorizations, dude. Yeah, I know. Never really were. I watched the white zombie in color, and I think I probably should have watched the black and white one. Yeah, yeah. Because you really... Saw through the black face paint. Oh, no. Oh, you are a terrible human being, aren't you? Yes, you are.

Somewhere around here I got a colorized version of Night of the Living Dead. It is terrible. It looks like, for some reason, everything is pastel. So there's like a soft, like Dwayne Jones is wearing like a soft orange salmon. sure it's very distracting like the the sky is like various shades of like greenish Teal. really throws you off. Fuck that shit, man. Yeah, and that

was filmed in black and white. The colorization is usually not real good. How do they even do that? Does some guy go through the film cells with a crayon? I'd hate to think of that. Paid by numbers. Yeah. Every single cell. There's got to be some kind of a program for doing it these days. They were able to do it before, I think, computer stuff was involved. So I think it's probably like...

They put in a different solution or something, maybe, and it brings some colors out or what the colors they thought should have been. I don't know. Yeah, I think you've got to take some creative liberties for that. Right on. He called back. G motherfuckin' Pete, baby! G MOTHERFUCKIN P- Hell yeah! As I was saying in regards to the screaming skull, the opening music If anybody remembers, or if she doesn't want to fucking bring it up, I swear, it's...

It's so similar to the opening score in The Shining. And I heard it, and as soon as I heard it, I immediately went to The Shining in my head. Anyway. Just thought it was interesting. Okay. Uh, and then I got to catch this, uh, newer, well, newer, uh, Fauci flick. First time viewing Cat and the Brain. Um, simultaneously one of the most faulty and one of the least faulty flicks.

It's Fulci going insane, or is he? And it's actually him playing himself. Oh, perfect. Directing a horror movie. Got a minute. All right. It's a Fulci flick. You know what you're going to get. This one's particularly fucking... sexually gratuitous and violent and stuff, but it was fine. You know what you're getting for. Yeah. Hey, okay, on to the meat hooks. We got the horror couples. Yes, sir. Let me get in here real quick. All right, so I got three for you. Okay. Oscar and Ellie.

From, uh, let the right one in. Oh, yeah. That was a fucking weird one. Well. Uh, the next door couple, uh, I'm all over the place with this shit. That's okay. Uh, David and Alex. from American Werewolf in London. Alright. Yeah. Man, I don't know. Shit must have been different, man. You just fucking show up at the hospital in a foreign country, injured.

You just fucking bring home this hot nurse and you're paying the light of that. You're ready to go, man. I should have traveled when I was younger. Me too. And for the last one, let's go with... Helen and Daniel Robitaille. Ooh, that's a good one. That's my horror couples, man. Again, you got the strange fucking categories. That's okay. Mr. Brock. Well, you know. Anyhow, that's all I got. Hope all is well. Love you like that.

Bye now. Love you too, Mr. Hardy. Thanks, Tom Hardy. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, buddy. I don't know if I would call Daniel Robitaille and Helen a couple. Well, it's not a couple, obviously. More of a stalker relationship. But, I mean, Baby and Otis aren't. Couple, right? I don't know what they are, now that Alan brings it up. I'm sure they... I think he's right. I don't think they're exactly siblings. I don't think so either. They might be cousins.

Sounds more logical. I'm sure they have fiddled with each other's diddle at some point. Because they're just weird that way. If they're not drawing the line in other places, I'm sure that's... Yeah, exactly right. I don't think there's many lines being drawn in that household. No, I don't think there's a line in that area. God, Lord.

Right on, man. Thanks, Alan and Tom Hardy, for calling in. You got anything for Alan or Tom Hardy, Dustin? No, thanks for calling in, guys. Appreciate it. Alrighty. Let's get ourselves into a movie here, shall we? Sounds good. Storytelling Storytelling started with our indigenous people. Can anyone of a myth... Or a story. they're afraid of Lucas. or found a part of a man, let's say. part of the name I guess the other half and the mind be an animal, right? No animal I've ever seen.

This is what was it? It's a diabolical spirit. This is a myth. For you, yeah. Honest. He's here. Dusty, it's Antlers from 2021. This one's directed by Scott Cooper, written by Henry Chaton. 5.9 stars on IMDb, starring Kerry Russell, Jesse Plemons, and Jeremy T. Thomas. This one is executive produced by Guillermo del Toro. Guillermo.

Guillermo, this movie is a fucking bummer, bro. All the way around. There is not like one, well, there is one thing that I got a little kick out of, but we'll get to that in a second. We are in the Pacific Northwest, somewhere in Oregon, I believe. Oregon looked like a logging, or that's mining, obviously. Well, yeah, I'm sure there could be some logging around there, too.

uh, small town, very, uh, for lack of a better term trashy yeah a lot of uh trailers in this town i'd say yeah um Probably a little impoverished, little, uh... Not a lot of jobs here, but I think Lucas' dad was making a killing on the meth he was cooking. Fortunately, he was using it as well. I think he had plenty of a customer base that shows you what kind of... popular demographics we have in this community we're abiding in here.

It's very drab, overcast all the time, probably somewhere in the northern Oregon area. Maybe on the coastline somewhere. Small town. We start off in what appears to be an abandoned mill or... Ironworks of some kind, and just a little boy, dirty, walking around kind of kicking cans and, you know, smashing things.

uh eventually he climbs inside a truck and then his dad comes out and he's like hey man we're almost done in here we'll be out in a minute quit screwing around now here's the thing this is we're meeting some of our main characters here we have frank who is the dad and his son, Aiden. Now, it's obvious, right? As soon as we see Frank, it's fucking meth to the gills. Number one. Number two, he's filthy. Aiden is also filthy, but...

I hate to say it. Oh, yeah, it seems like he really cares for the kid. Yeah, he looks like a good dad, other than the... minor imperfections cleanliness and non-drug use not frowned upon in Frank's household get a real job I don't know whatever but he looks like he loves his son and his son Seems okay. He could go with a shower and maybe some laundry, but other than that, he seems fine. No kind of abuse or anything that we're gaining in this little snapshot.

Frank gets his gas mask on and heads back into the quote-unquote mill. It was a mine. It could be a mine. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, because there's tunnels. I guess that would make sense. He gets down into the tunnels. He's using a lot of road flares to light the way. That was one of my... Get a flashlight, bro. Yeah, that's a bad idea. Especially bringing a road flare towards a methane gas.

Lab? Kaboom. That's what I don't understand, man. They needed the road flare to create the creepy red lighting. Okay. That's just, I mean, not too smart. Come on. Come on, Guillermo. Read a physics book. Anyway, it's great. He's going down there. He's got a meth lab down there and a grimy partner that's down there cooking the meth.

uh that sucks they get down like it's not in it's like down in the mine like past where all the industrial metalworks are to where you're just looking at rock walls and stuff like an offshoot where they stop digging or whatever some kind of a side shaft. I don't know. They get to the lab we meet Frank's partner a guy named Alan They're down there, they're making the meth, and they start hearing weird noises coming up from the various tunnels.

Freaks them right out, as it should. They're like, okay, time to go. But from what I gather, the noises were coming from the exit chat. So they're actually getting scared and they're going deeper into the tunnels. They hit a certain point and they start noticing all these bags dangling from the ceiling.

Apparently they didn't explore that particular part before. Freaked right out. Alan's got a gun. Start shooting at stuff. Hear a big growl. And then kind of a bunch of flashing camera jumps. And then we cut to our opening credits. antlers. Again, no.

What about the kid? What about the kid? So after all the flashing and the screams and the kid walks up to the door. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And that just comes into play. Yeah. Because obviously he's a kid too. Yeah. So, yeah, the kid, Aiden does come. Could conceivably have come into contact with whatever the hell happened down there. Which will come into play later.

uh now we cut to uh i don't know maybe a couple days later uh we got a new school teacher in town which is great her name is jules or julia um played by Cary Russell. Did you ever watch Felicity? I didn't. I mean, I knew what it was. She was like the main star in Felicity. Which was, if I'm not mistaken, it's like a rom-com about a girl going to college. Oh, okay. She was pretty hot to trot. Circa, I don't know, 97. Yeah, yeah. It's not, uh, oh.

I mean, she's not bad looking now, but she's definitely not Felicity anymore. She's having a little trouble adjusting to her new class. I'd say she teaches probably fifth grade or something like that. And she's got a kid in her class by the name of Lucas. Lucas is the grimy kid, very quiet, sits in the back of the classroom, gets bullied.

A red-haired prick. He needs to go back to remedial bullying because he's not doing a very good job. And I don't think Lucas is all that scared of him, to be honest. No, I think he just wants him to leave him the fuck alone. Yeah, that would help, but it's on the intimidation level.

The guy looked like Howdy Doody. Get the fuck out of here. He just was bigger than him. A little bit. So this bully, I don't know his name, but he's a ginger. Apparently he stole Lucas' sock puppet and was dry humping it in class. Okay. Well done, sir. We get like a very quick little, I guess, folklore lesson. The history of stories and how fictional stories and myths and things like that from our teacher Jules.

And then she's kind of immediately, Lucas kind of catches her eye because he's so quiet. And he looks a little grimy. He is. Like you said, he's the dirty kid in class. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's quiet. Quiet, yeah. So she's kind of got an eye on him. He does a lot of doodling in class. We'll get more into the pictures that he's drawing later, but this kind of all comes into play later. School gets out. Julie follows him for a little while, and he just kind of walks off into the woods.

so that's off-putting but then she goes home and we learn a little bit more about julia so she's now living with her brother who is now the town sheriff um She stops at a convenience store, and we get her lustfully gazing. Like a ball and a liquor. Yeah, like maybe take a little snifter here. We're going to do a little quick shot on the way home. We can do the math. She's probably some kind of an alcoholic. Recovering maybe. I don't know. She looks very sad, very depressed.

Rightfully so. We'll get more into that later. We get into the relationship between her and her brother. Her brother seems like a good guy. Sheriff. Chubby fella. Not the most attractive man I've ever seen. Sure, little small town cop. Pulls that look off, I'd say. Yeah. A little tense between these two. I get the feeling that the brother, I think his name was Bill, was really looking to rebuild the relationship with Jules. She just moved back to town.

And I think, but at the same time, he resents her a little bit because she split when she did. He's the younger brother. He is. Well, you get more into it later, but the history of what they went through as kids, maybe he resents her for leaving him. I don't know. Yeah. We find out later on that their mother died at some point. And Dad got a little touchy-feely after that. Yeah. And maybe some abusive stuff going on. Beatings. Beatings. He said that she stuffed him in a...

Basically, I don't know, a crawl space in Florida. Punisher and stuff. Real dick move things. Which sucks, but now I feel like kind of because Jules has been through that, she's kind of recognizing some of the signs from Lucas. So she's got an eye on him now. Alright, very cool. Now we're going to cut to Lucas. He goes back to his house. It's not a very cool situation, Dusty.

No power to this place. Picked up something along the way, though. Yes, he did. A little of the old roadkill, I believe. First one was a little bit of skunk action. Was it? Oh, that's right. He killed the skunk. Second one, I think, was a raccoon, right? Yeah, a little bit of roadkill. Yeah.

He goes out of the woods and kills animals and he brings them home. And we're not just sure why yet, but when he gets there, House is like derelict. No power. It's basically a bunch of termites holding hands. Um. Filthy, of course. Picture a drug addict's meth house. Yes. That's exactly what it is. I will say it's a house.

It's not a trailer. No, it's not. It's not for sure a trailer. Barely. I mean, house, it is a structure. We'll say that. Quite a few unmoving cars growing moss in the front yard. Yeah, a lot of junk. Not a lot of landscaping happening here. Just pretty much filthy. Horder-esque. Horder-esque in a way. And it's pitch black once the sun goes down, so Lucas has to get around with a miner's helmet that he found with a flashlight on it.

What we see him do is go up to the upstairs bedroom, toss the various animals into one of the bedrooms. There's a lot of moaning and growling and thumping going on. But Lucas goes in there, and he tosses the stuff, and then we see Aidan, the little brother, come out. Ain't doesn't look too good, man. No. Emaciated. Pale. Pale, black crud coming out of his eyes. Yeah, black veins coming out of his face. Bad business, man. Maybe dysentery.

So I'm like, ah, does not look right. I believe it's crotch rot. He's a little young for crotch, right? Well, you know, these mining communities. That's a very small town, Dusty. Gotcha. Maybe him and his old man share underwear. It could be. That's a very real possibility as well. uh it's nasty it's bad it's bad business uh but the next day in school um now at this point we do get a quick snapshot of uh Um...

Lucas taking his sock monkey and cutting it open and taking the stuffing out. And then the next day in school, I thought this was rather ingenious on his part. He has filled his own sock monkey with dog shit under the pretense that the bully kid is going to steal it again. Which he does.

And now the bully kid is walking around smelling like dog shit. Got him! Bully trap. Go fuck yourself, Howdy Doody. The bully kid, of course, figures it out and opens up the sock puppet. It's got a bunch of turds in it. And then he puts a little bit of a beating on old Lucas there. Lucas is fine. He doesn't get roughed up too bad. But he does have to go to the nurse.

and the nurse has him take his shirt off as Jules is walking by. She sees a lot of bruising and stuff like that. Nothing that the bully would have done. From there, she's, okay, now we've got to do something about this. So the first thing she does is goes and tells her brother about it, the cop. brother's like yeah i know frank weaver um i've arrested him 300 times i've revived him with narcam a bunch of times it's just he's just the town uh piece of shit yeah pretty much but

I mean, if I arrest him, then what's going to happen to those two boys? There's not going to be anybody there to take care of them. Which sucks, and he's right. So there's that. She's like, well, we've got to do something. It's just like what we went through, kind of. And he's like, well, what would you like me to do exactly? Because, I mean, it's either that or they get taken to some disgusting institution somewhere where it's even worse, right?

So the next day at school, she's kind of keeping an eye on Lucas again. And Lucas is now like drawing these doodles of like... monsters be like ripping people apart stuff like that um pretty pretty heavy stuff so she follows him home well she doesn't follow him home but she follows him after school and buys him some ice cream and uh we get like a little bonding moment here between Jules and Lucas where you know

she's talking about how her mother died and he mentions that his mother died and she's left in a kind of a not great place with her dad and she's like kind of poking and prodding him about how his dad is and what's going on there and he's not really giving her any information at the end he just gets up and leaves and asks her not to follow him again yeah which is fair that's a little creepy What do you mean? Mind your business, Teach. Yeah, man. This could go a whole other direction.

And there are other internet videos that I've seen. Anyway, so that's pretty harsh. But she's now really legit concerned about Lucas and his well-being, which is great, as she should be.

um from there she goes back and tries to talk to bill her brother again about doing something about this and then we from there we get a bunch of flashbacks going into her childhood uh we don't really see what happened other than she's got a nice dusting of ptsd yeah because like she has these creepy like her dad's coming up on her and yeah from behind for us

massage slash possible kind of touchy boob grab a boob or something get the fuck out of here and they show him and curled up in the fetal position in her bed naked I mean... Gross. Gross. Now, I've been known to have a couple cocktails here at the house. And I've been known to fall asleep in the wrong room. Yes. But I don't do it naked, Dusty.

That I know of. That I know of. I don't know, buddy. Well, that was that one time in the bathtub, but that's a whole other thing. I have seen you fall asleep with a whole face full of makeup. Almost naked. That was stupid, yeah. I don't know if we want to air it. Don't worry on the show. Halloween parties. Halloween parties. We get down on Halloween. Here comes the listener mail. I've just been subpoenaed. Okay. So that's pretty nasty. What we're showing here is that...

Jules has some history with abusive fathers and she's connecting with Lucas and that's great. Next day at school we see Lucas kind of carving a... figurine, I guess. Like a totem thing. And it's basically like a deer skull with antlers coming out. Now, we're horror dorks. And sharp teeth. Yeah, sharp teeth. And he kind of bites himself with it, too, which is even weirder. Now, we're horror dorks here in the patent room. Wow.

I had a theory about that. We'll talk about it in a second. Okay. We know what the deer antlers and the... fucking antlers means in Native American lore. It's a Wendigo, right? Now, this may be all one big metaphor for something else, but we'll get into that towards the end of the movie. All right. So at this point

Everything is kind of coming together. Well, not really, but um after that uh she follows him out into the woods again and this time we see him like setting a trap in a weird way yeah she goes through his uh his desk and finds a bunch of books on like trapping animals and stuff So we see him in a Native American or an evil spirits guidebook or something. Yeah, yeah. But he's got like a trap set up out in the woods.

And he's getting it all ready to go, and then he hears some footsteps off to his left, and then he just happens to look over around a bush, and he sees a guy who just happened to come upon the remains of a dead guy, which is nasty. We'll find out in a few minutes. Those are actually Alan's remains, who was the meth partner down in the mines there. Pretty nasty. He gets the hell out of there, as he should. I have to wonder, though, at this point. He had to have known that body was there, right?

I don't know if he knew it was there. I think he got left out in the woods when they first got attacked. Maybe the attack Because obviously his dad's not dead, right? I mean, so... We know right at this point we're thinking when to go. So his dad obviously was bitten or whatever, but was left alive. So I thought maybe the dad was left alive somewhere in or around the mine.

And the Wendigo fed on the other dude and dumped his body out in the woods. So maybe Lucas has never seen the body. I don't know. The original Wendigo, right? Yeah. So as Wendigos go, I mean, okay, so. We'll get more into that when we get into the actual folklore of this particular Wendigo, I guess. But we do now have an official dead body on our hands, and that's going to be problematic. So...

We call it whoever the guy was that was standing over the dead guy. He calls it in. Now Bill has to go investigate it. So they go out there. They find the dead body. Take it to the coroner, I guess. And this guy has no clue what the fuck is going on here. Doesn't look like any animal attack that he knows. There's giant chunks missing out of the thing. Well, his whole lower half is basically gone. Yeah. He's a skeletal. Yeah.

A meat skeleton. Just like bones sticking out. Like from the chest up though, it's obviously human and it's identifiable as Alan the meth partner guy so all right well that's cool we know what's going on with that but now bill has to go talk to frank because he knows that Alan and Frank are homies and meth guys together. So there we go. He goes and knocks on Frank's door. Of course, nobody answers.

But he's like, we'll come back tomorrow with a warrant if we have to, dude, because we know you're in there. They got a whiff. They got a whiff. There's dead guy. It smells like death. It smells like dead guy up in here, which is not a good cologne, by the way, if you find that on Amazon.

One star. Nobody wants to smell like dead guy. Pretty good beer, though. So that's nasty, and now we're getting into the meat and potatoes of what's going on here. While that's happening, actually, Lucas is inside. And he's turning the lights off and being sneaky so Bill doesn't see him inside. Now we're actually going to get to see Frank here for a second because Lucas goes up there to take Aiden likes some

I think some candy or something like that. Yeah, I thought he was trying to get them to eat real food. I think he was bringing them some stuff that the teacher had got from... She bought them a hamburger or something. Yeah. some fries or something that wasn't meat. Right. It was something that, anyway. Like a human being would eat. Right, yes. Aiden tries to eat it, but then he just starts bleeding out of his eyes. And his mouth. And his mouth. Coughing it up. Gross.

And we actually get to see Frank here for a second. Pretty bad. Pretty bad shape. He looks like one of the infected from 28 Days Later. Except for his chest is glowing. His chest is glowing, which is pretty kick-ass. It's like a... meth head Tony Stark situation. Yeah, or E.T. E.T., well, yeah, that too, on meth. Pretty nasty, and he's just like growling and banging around and shit. He doesn't actually hurt. Lucas at all. And Aiden is in the room with him at this point.

So... After Lucas hauls ass out of there, he's got a weird situation on the door where he's got like a padlock and then a hinge. And he has to screw the fucking thing in every time he opens it or closes it. So some little white trash engineering going on there. But when you've got a fucking Wendigo for a dad, duct tape ain't going to do the trick anymore.

A screwdriver and a half block. Something, yeah. Fucking wedge it in there if you have to. I don't care. Uh, so that's pretty nasty. Um, before that, though, I think? No, after that. Um, What's her name there? Jules goes to the principal there at school, played by Amy Madigan. Does this lady look familiar at all to you? The only movie I've ever seen her in. Yeah? Uncle Buck.

Oh, yeah. She was the girlfriend in Uncle Buck. Yep. She was also Kevin Costner's wife in Field of Dreams. Oh, that's right. Yes, of course. She is also... Oh, my God. I've watched a movie plenty of times. Yeah. There's a really good... Well, it's probably not good now, but I loved it when I was a kid. Kind of... rock and roll fucking hero movie. It's called Streets of Fire.

With Michael Perret. I probably have seen it. And it's like he's an army vet that just got back into town and this gang led by Willem Dafoe like a A 50s biker doo-wop gang kidnaps the local rock star chick. And now him, he's got to go rescue her from the... Willem Dafoe. They get a very cool sledgehammer fight at the end. But she's like his little sidekick. She has never been attractive in any movie. No. How does she keep getting work as an actress?

Give me the ugliest lady you can find. I need her in here right now. Well, she kind of fit with John Candy and Uncle Buck. Oh, yeah. Because you're thinking, well, this guy's not going to get a ten. Yeah. So we've got to get a six-ish, five-ish. Here's somebody. Looks like they should work at a tire shop. Exactly, because that's what she did. Exactly right. Oh, yuck. All right, anyway, Amy Madigan here is the principal.

uh she's like she's getting sick of listening to Jules gripe about this kid so she's like okay okay I'll stop by the Weaver house tonight and I'll see what I can kick up so she goes to the Weaver house uh she lets herself in hears all the growling and banging going on upstairs, decides it's probably a good idea to go investigate that. Genius. Curiosity got you. I know what happened. We got Amy Madigan here. She goes upstairs and gets her ass eaten.

And not in a sexual way. No, no. Yeah, no. It's a pretty gnarly scene, too. Nosy bitch got what's coming to her. Yeah. She got taken down and just basically bitten to death. And in doing so, she triggers some kind of a process in French.

couldn't really tell what the fuck was happening other than like he like a butterfly yeah emerging from the christmas but like a weird look to me like tree roots shooting out his antlers were coming out of his mouth those were antlers you think yeah okay you know you think about it when he becomes the full the thing it's antlers so yeah the antlers were the first thing that started coming out of his mouth okay i'll buy that um

Doesn't really add up later on in the movie, but that's okay. We'll get into that here in a minute. Had it stuffed that big thing into the body of that guy. Yeah, whatever. So, okay, he apparently has now had officially human meat, other than meth.

guy alan so now he's the full-on uh i think the original one ate alan it could be so then that might have been his first human kill okay that makes sense frank's anyway yeah uh so she's dead now and that's gross and she's up there Um... now we have a real problem on our hands especially for lucas because he knows that uh

this isn't going to last forever we got to do something he can't leave he's only uh what nine ten years old and he doesn't have anywhere else to go and he still cares about his brother knows his dad has fucking done so but that's okay uh he is like well uh cops are probably gonna come here pretty soon i'm just gonna start walking so he starts walking

and almost immediately gets accosted by Howdy Doody again. Oh, yeah. Hey, faggot, I don't take apologies for pussies. Get back here when I'm talking to you. And then the Wendigo just pops out of a tree and just...

smashes. He eats the fuck out of a red-headed prick. Yeah, he's done too. Uh, Presumably the next day we now have... uh the kid's parents looking for him also the principal didn't show up to school jules's upper brother's ass about what that you gotta be shitting me now there's three yeah you gotta be shitting me and he's like well i don't fucking know So they decide they... kind of thumb through the book that she found in Lucas's desk.

They decide they're going to talk to some local natives, see if they know anything. They go talk to the former sheriff, who was a Native American. He was the guy that found Alan. Was it? Yep. Okay. I couldn't really tell, but I wasn't really paying attention to that. Because he kind of looked at him, and there was recognition when he found the body. He's like, oh, fuck.

you gotta recognize what could have done this oh Jesus go and talk to him and he's like yeah man that's uh that's the Wendigo right there so uh It's a pretty nasty customer. What happens is you start fucking with Mother Nature and this evil spirit comes out and it inhabits a guy. And then from there it kind of hops. to whoever it wants to. The only way to do it, you gotta take it down and he says extinguish its heart which i took later to mean that you gotta cut up either cut the heart out or

You had to cut the heart out and then like stab it or destroy it or something. I don't know. Sure. Because the fucking chest in Frank was like glowing red. All right. Well, let's not get too ahead of ourselves here because. I love the Native American thing, but Bill is like, dude, it's not a goddamn monster. It's some weirdo out there disappearing people. Okay, well, now we got our search warrant, so let's head on back to Frank's house, see what he wants to tell us.

Get up there. Immediately find the dead body of... The principal lady. The principal lady. It's fucked up, man. It's like Frank and the Cenobites fucked up. That's how bad it is. And then they find what's left of Frank, who, like you said aptly, looks like a cocoon. Just a husk. Yeah, pretty much. And no sign of Ada.

so that's nasty uh lucas just happens upon this scene as he's walking back from wherever he came from he's like oh shit you guys can't be in there so he takes off and then that's when jules grabs him and he's just like hey bro you're not going up in there They take Lucas to the hospital and get him checked in for the night. And this is where we get a flashback as to what the hell happened after that day at the mine. Basically, somehow, Frank made it home to Lucas and Aiden.

with Aiden in tow yeah Aiden was there um he was not feeling too good and he knew he wasn't and he just kept eating and eating and eating and every time he ate he got more hungry um But I feel like he knew that something was not good and he needed to separate himself not only from his kids but from everybody. So that's where the toolbox came out and all the hinges and the latches, deadbolts came out.

And he's like, look, I'm okay. Just, I'm fine. I just, I'm really, really sick and you guys need to stay away from me. And they're like, okay, dad, whatever you say. and then a couple days go by, I guess, and now little Aiden is having similar problems, so they go and try to knock on Dad's door, and now he's gone completely feral, and his hair's coming off.

And they're like, Dad, so Aiden's not feeling too good. And then he just kind of grabs Aiden and pulls him in the room and slams the door. From that day forward, Lucas has pretty much been on his own. Why is he still going to school? Fuck all that. Got to keep up the appearances. I suppose. And it's probably like the only bastion of normalcy he has in his life at this point.

uh yeah right on that sucks but uh good news lucas is in the hospital we find out that he's malnourished there's all kinds of signs of abuse um dehydrated probably hasn't had a good night's sleep in quite some time uh we don't know what to do with this kid because you know we'll keep him there for for testing overnight because I don't know, you might have all kinds of other problems. But at this point, Jules and Bill decide that they're going to take the kid home with them.

Doesn't have anywhere else to go, I guess. So, it's humanitarian. I don't think they had a social services... Probably not. ...branch of the... Little town government. No, not here in Beaver Lodge, Oregon, or wherever we're at. So they take him home. They get him fed. We get more bonding moments between Jules and...

Lucas at one point bill is out of the house and he's i guess talking to the mayor or something but he has one of his deputies go to the house just to keep an eye on them guys kind of like walking around outside inside uh lucas and jules are having like a little heart-to-heart conversation about their mothers and she's like oh you know well your mother died and now your dad's dead and that kind of sucks too but we really need to know where Aiden is and this is when Lucas is like oh dad's not dead

No, he's not dead. Don't worry about him. And she's like, oh, no, he's dead. He's like split open in your attic. And he's like, no, I saw all that. That's my old dad. Yeah, he just took off. He's got Aiden with him, and he's going to come back and pick me up any minute now. And she's like, I don't think so. She calls Bill real quick. Bill is trying to get a hold of the deputy outside. And this is when all the growling and the fucking howling and all that shit starts creeping around from outside.

Dark as shit, of course. The Deputy, unfortunately, played by Rory Cochran. Recognize this guy? Dazed and Confused. Dazed and Confused. Oculus. Oculus, yeah. What was that weird cartoon movie? Scanner Darkly. He's a pretty good actor when he has lines and stuff. He's in this movie for all of about six and a half minutes. Yeah, I didn't have much to say. No, he just kind of walks around. He's walking around following the growling outside. He goes to, I think, like a tool shed or something.

pops the door open and there's like a milk crate in there with a bunch of blankets he's like what the hell so the blankets start moving and up pops eight And he's like, oh, excellent. Hey, buddy. Gets on the radio. Bill, I found a kid. And then here comes our wendigo, who apparently now has, like, big tusks or something. Antlers? Antlers? Tusks? I don't know. It looked to me like a big...

I don't know, like almost had like a Godzilla stegosaurus back kind of a thing going on. He had antlers on his head and then he kind of had... what to me looked like porcupine shoulder area. And he was ramming them like this. So he'd ram into them. He punctured him. Oh, yeah. His antlers came through his back and through his chest. Yeah. He killed him, like, instantly, that guy. Killed Brory Cochran. Sad. But he's using his antlers as ramming devices. Yeah, that's, like, the big thing there.

That sucks. They heard all that inside, so now they're freaking out. I mean, the growling is now moving around the outside of the house. So we've got a fun little cat and mouse game going on with Jules and Lucas trying to stay away from Dad.

um at this about this time bill shows back up and he's got his flashers on and everything and he's like okay what the hell's going on here he sees the dead body of uh rory cochran so he's like oh shit well I don't know so he pulls his weapon and he starts running around Unfortunately, Jules and Lucas left her cell phone on the coffee table.

and they're watching Bill outside as he's going around the house, and they can see the Wendigo kind of following him, which sucks. Eventually, he goes to investigate Rory Cochran's body, and then he gets basically the same treat. Luckily, he put his bulletproof vest on before he went searching. So, I'm assuming he... He got punctured, obviously, but it didn't go through his chest. It kind of went through his shoulder where the vest wasn't covered. That's what I saw. I'll buy that. The first.

The first ram. Yeah. Well, it goes through and it catches him and then he's got to jerk itself free. And Bill starts tossing him across the room. Hitting him with a broom or something trying to get him off. But that sucks. At that point, Aiden pops out of the fucking thing, yeah, and off Dad and Aiden go. Okay, well, we know where they're going. They're going back to the goddamn mill tunnel thing, whatever.

So Jules is like, come on, we've got to go get him. And Bill's half dead at this point. He's like, I'm coming with you. Get my car. So she gets in the cop car and they go hauling ass to the tunnel mine.

uh they call luckily they call an ambulance on the way there because bill is bleeding all over the goddamn place and this is uh my least favorite part of the movie because right here we are going to get a reenactment of the final scene in aliens if she had gone down there and said step away from him you bitch that would have been pretty much if she duct tape a pulse rifle to a flamethrower

We pretty much would have the exact same scene here. So that's basically what happens. She battles the Wendigo. She battles the Wendigo.

manages to kill it with like a weird uh pike pole thing that she stabbed her quite a few fucking times and then and then lucas is like you're right i gotta kill dad here so they come they like tag team him and they stab the shit out of him um you get a little fun like touching moment where like once dad realizes that his son is the one doing the stabbing then he's like i'm just gonna lay down and die

But in a really silly part, when she first comes upon the Wendigo, it like turns and you can see it's kind of wearing Frank's face for a second. After all that, you're going to tell me that was just sitting there the whole time while it was out running around in the woods?

No. All right. Well, he rips it off. Yeah. When he gets pissed because she's jabbing him a couple times with the pike. Are you trying to fool her? Yeah. Oh, sorry, Frank. My bad. Oh, I didn't recognize you. I was looking for the hairy guy. Get the fuck out of here, you silly guy. So, yeah, big battle. They battle it out.

Kip managed to kill and take the heart out of Frank. And when she pulled it out, she was like, ah, yeah, super hot, because it was like smoldering. But then she stabs it, I think, and then that's the end of him.

and once that happens then aiden who was like hiding in the back tunnel starts like howling and yelping and and she's like turn yep she's like dude gonna have to kill your brother too man i'm sorry and he's like no no no no don't do it he'll be fine he'll be fine and she's like dad you know what's gonna happen here so let's just get this over and then lucas eventually is like yeah you're right so he turns away and she kills aiden presumably

It's a total... You don't see the eyes going in, but she's hugging him. She's crying. She's upset about doing it. It's a pretty rough moment. Yeah, it is. I didn't want to get all teary-eyed, Dustin. It is... It's a pretty rough one. It's an emotional thing, but... My kid was pretty cute when he wasn't all fucking... gnarly looking before he had the bring worm or whatever uh it's nasty and uh eventually she does kill aiden and that's that and then we cut to

presumably a couple days later her and her brother are out walking along the banks of a river and uh he's like all bandaged up and she's like oh well yeah you know i mean it sucks but i guess we had to do what we had to do right and then he just starts coughing yeah as if to say yeah as if to say he might be the next wind to go he's got the wind to go in him because he caught he looks at his hand he's got the black icor coming out yeah he's coughing and

He's like, well, I'm fucked. Yep, okay, gotta cut your fucking heart out too, bro. What did you think of antlers there, Dusty? I liked it. That was the second time I've seen it. I don't remember the rough part about having to kill the little kid. No, it was good. Yeah. I think it was above the, when you said a 5.9, I was like, oh, I thought it was a little better than that. I would agree. I like it a lot. I like a depressing horror movie.

That it was. There is not, other than the dog shit thing, there was not any humor in this. No. And this is what I like in a horror movie, man. I like a movie that affects you. Definitely. I mean, it's... It's not a movie I'm going to watch on a regular basis, but it is a good movie, and I will watch it again.

A couple years down the road. Maybe when my kids aren't the exact same age as the kids in the movie. That's a little difficult. That's a little difficult. I remember this movie when it was coming out, you know, reading through horror news and stuff like that and talking about

Benicio Del Toro doing a Wendigo movie. I was like, oh, that should be pretty fucking cool. It hits him like distribution issues or something it was was it during the covet it was it was a covet yeah it was supposed to be released a theatrical release in 2020 yeah that's what happened got kicked right out of there that's why it didn't come out till 20

That makes sense. Okay. Yeah. It's a bummer. Happened to a lot of good horror movies. Yeah. But they're all kind of filtering through now and we're picking them up on VOD and all kinds of weird places. Right on, man. Well, it's a good show. Streaming presently on Prime. I had to pay four bucks to watch it. I was on Hulu. Oh, was it? Yeah. Free 99. Fucking shit. God damn it. I was going to order the Blu-ray anyway.

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And we are back, Monsignor. Yes, sir. Oh, buddy. Are you ready for the second installment of our new segment? I am shaking with anticipation. Stop shaking. Okay. You're going to ruin my setup here. Here comes another episode of Road Reads. Yeah. Rotary. This week, I finished a book which many would call an American classic and, but some would also say, jumpstarted the true crime subgenre. I read In Cold Blood from 1965 by Truman Capote, published by Random House.

This one is probably my second favorite true crime book ever. Really good book, dude. Details the... Look upon her. Capote. No, I mean, it wasn't about Al Capote. I don't know. No, no, no. No, no, no. This is, the crime itself Actually, by today's standards, it's fairly tame. I mean, it is a family annihilation. Oh, okay. November 15th, 1959, small town of Holcomb, Kansas.

The Clutter family, who at the time was very well to do, was accosted by two... former two ex-cons, and the way it's written, the way Capote wrote it, It's not written in the scientific... method that most true crime novels are you know with like evidence facts and evidence yeah stuff like that it's almost as if it's written as a as a work of fiction okay and there have been some detractors that say that capote took uh

certain creative liberties with the characters because there's like dialogue involved and the two guys talking about he wasn't there uh he did an interview them both the two killers uh Quite extensively before they were both executed. Really good book. Reading it, there's a certain sense of dread. Because you already know how the story ends. Happened in 1959. And once you start reading it, you'll immediately get curious and you'll start doing the Google image searches.

and nothing good you know the two guys look exactly like you think they would there are a couple of ex-cons uh 1959 they both look like they they're uh extras from a James Dean movie. You know what I mean? And the Clutter family looks exactly like you'd expect them to. Very uptight, religious. Was it Urban Joan Cleaver or whatever the guy's called? Pretty much, yeah. Pretty much. And then, you know...

They were very involved in 4-H and their local church and helping these Japanese immigrants integrate themselves into small-town Kansas life. Everybody loved them. They were sitting on quite a bit of mud, like they were. They owned a lot of property. and, like, one of the guys did time with a guy who used to work for Herbert Clutter, and that's how he found out about all the money there. And somehow they got the asinine idea that, like, Herb just kept...

all of his cash in a safe under his desk, which he didn't. It was all in a bank. So they go there. torture and kill the family and then they've got this other asinine idea about going to mexico which they actually made it to mexico but the big plan was that they were going to take their new fortune go down to mexico buy a shipping area fishing boat, and then charge tourists to go deep sea fishing. All right.

Well, they made off with all of $50, which even by 1959 money isn't going to get you very far. Maybe in Mexico. I mean, they did make it to Mexico, but they also... One of the guys wasn't even... He was doing time for floating bad checks. But he, up to a certain amount. White power crime. Oh yeah, well yeah, but he was also a jackass. But, um...

I mean, like the idea of, like, they made more money floating bad checks than they actually got from the Clutter family. So that was like their whole scam. They easily could have just said, well, you don't have any money. We should probably be on our way. But the other guy was a psycho, and he said no witnesses. So they tied everybody up and shot them all in the head with shotguns. Really bad. Really bad. I think they made it about a month after the murders. Went to Mexico.

Banged a lot of, blew all the money they made. Banged a lot of prostitutes. $50 will buy a lot of Mexican prostitutes in 1959. You're probably right. I would still be down there. I would not have come back, but they ran out of money and came back, got busted. I think they, if I remember right, they killed a hitchhiker. Or no, somebody picked him up hitchhiking and they killed that guy and took his car. Sold the car. It's a whole thing. Got caught, obviously.

and executed for the grunt. So there's that. What is the form of execution in there in Kansas, sir, in 1965 or whenever? They were actually executed in 1961, and at that point it was hanging out. Hanging still. All right. Good old western justice. Unceremoniously. They literally had the gallows set up in a warehouse. Marched them right in. Punk. This was like two days.

No, I think it was about ten days after their guilty verdict. Oh, perfect. So they got their automatic appeal denied, and they went... Donna should be done these days. I agree. I agree. Instead of sucking off the hind tit of the government for 20 years. Oh, yeah. But great book. Second only, in my opinion, to the devil in the white.

I've read that one. That one is even better, I would say. They're supposed to do a movie about that. They've been talking about that. A TV show. Was it a TV show? It was a TV show. I think Amazon was going to do a TV show about it.

I thought it was going to start... Who was it going to start? There was some rumblings about Martin Scorsese doing it with Leonardo DiCaprio as AJ Holmes. Yes. But that was... fucking 20 years ago we were talking about that i don't know uh anyway great book definitely worth a read available for one credit on uh audible okay many would like i said many would call this an american I've known about it. I probably should have read it by now since I do read

The known works. It's not a hard read either, you know what I mean? Like, you know exactly how this ends. But there's, like, sometimes trying to read H.P. Lovecraft or Ed Gallagher. Oh, yeah. What the fuck does that word mean? How does any of this make sense? Are they even speaking English anymore? I don't know man. I tried with the Call of Cthulhu It's hard. It's like a full-time job.

Trying to get through it. You're looking shit up. I'm driving a car. Exactly. I listen to this because I don't want to read and now I'm reading what every other word means. It's not for me. I can't with a thesaurus. Get out of here. Anyway, worth checking out Inmates for sure. We would like to know what kind of reading you're into. Let us know.

Area code 775-3870-275 is the mental health hotline. Drop us some audible recommendations if you feel like it. I'm digging deep into the true crime right now. I read this one. I read the Delphi murders. What else did I read? The Devil in the White City, obviously. Hit me up with something. No more Manson stuff, though. I need a break from Charles Manson.

All right, while you're thinking about that, inmates, we're going to tell you what movies we got to watch this week in a little segment called What Are You Looking At? what are you looking at Well, I only got one movie in this week, Dusty. It is the lost footage of Leah Sullivan from 2018. You ever heard of this? I have not. uh found footage cheap as shit um it's exactly what you'd expect it to be but i will say this one was much better than i had anticipated

Normally you watch yourself a found footer tour movie. You know you're going to get a bunch of shaky cams. You know you're going to get a bunch of, oh what the fuck was that, a bunch of dipshit kids chasing each other around. This one was actually pretty well acted. A lot of suspense, a bit of a slow burn. The payoff at the end, while very ambiguous, is still pretty good, I would say.

It's not the fucking cheap shit that we're used to in found footage. You know what I mean? Oh, what was that? Oh, I don't know. Oh, what happened to Dave? Oh. I don't know either. Oh, God. It's better than that, I will say. I would call this a diamond in the rough as far as cheap found footage horror movies. If you're interested, I found this one streaming on the Roku channel. I would say it's worth checking out if you're in the mood for found footage.

but you're pissed off enough to not want to watch Apartment 32B again, which I don't think that's an actual movie. I just made that up. Anyway, that's all I'm looking at, man. What do you got? We had the big volleyball tournament this weekend. Yeah. We did have a break on Saturday. Cool. And we were in Folsom, and I said, hey, and the wife says, hey, you want to go watch a movie? for this block, a three-hour block that we're in. I said, yeah, that's fine. And so we had to choose between...

Sinners or Final Destination Bloodlines. So I put out the call to our good buddy Jason. If it were you, he's seen them both. Yeah. which would you go watch? And he gave me a very... As he's wont to do. Anaclitical. Of course. Explanation of which one. Of course. Which I appreciate. Absolutely. So anyway, we went and watched Sinners. Okay. What did you think? Fucking great. Yeah, nice. This movie is great. Nice. I was...

When I first kind of saw the trailers and stuff, I was like, meh. I heard it was getting very good buzz, good reviews. Jason said he really liked it. Sarah loved it. is not kind of what you I guess the trailer leads you to believe that it All horror, right? The trailer leads you to believe it's vampires. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's only about, as Jason was describing to me, it's about a third of the movie is horror. And the rest is just kind of, what, 1930s?

Mississippi. Two brothers come back, and Michael B. Jordan, he plays the character of two brothers. Right. Twin brothers. And they had gone up to, left Mississippi, small town Mississippi, and gone up to Chicago. and basically got involved with... bootlegging type business and they were working for the Italian gangs working for the Irish gangs and then they end up back down in Mississippi.

Kind of got a lot of change in their pocket from all the stuff they had done in Chicago. Wanted to come home. I think it kind of implied they might have been on the run from... One or both of the big mafioso types there. Okay. And they wanted to open up what's called a juke joint. Mm-hmm. So they spend all their money, and they come back to town. Everybody's, oh, how are you boys doing? Like, we haven't seen you in forever. And they get a whole big party set up. They bought an old...

I think it's a mill, like a cotton mill or something like that. I don't know. So they bought the mill and They get all the fixings to have a great big party, round up a couple musicians. Their little cousin's a musician. Hell of a blues player. And the music in this thing and the musical sequences and stuff. I don't like music. right is this a musical it's not a musical okay but they do a couple of big kind of musical like numbers right okay but it makes sense in the in the

And the lore and the mythos of the vampires that are in this story. And some of older and older, I want to say... lore from I think the what do you call the Creole kind of lore you know but it's just a great movie all around but like I said And Jason, it's right, it's about a third you get into the horror aspect. Yeah. The rest is kind of... life as an African-American or minority in this small town, Mississippi, back in the 1930s, right? Cool, yeah.

And just the cinematography, it's a great movie. It's like an all-around good movie, not just a good horror movie. Cool. So definitely worth a watch. Excellent. I would definitely give it a look. Right on. We'll get around to it one of these days. Yeah. Alrighty then. Is that it? Yeah, when it does get into the horror aspect, it's fucking great. Oh, I'm sure.

The vampires are phenomenal. It's great. That's what I heard. It's fucking great. It's just a great movie. Cool, cool. Yeah, emotional. Pulls up the heartstrings. Oh, no. Yeah. No, not my heartstrings. Oh, yeah. Damn it. I've got to stretch those out. And then I did, not what are you looking at, but I started playing, or I finished it actually. PlayStation.

They just dropped, or about a month ago, dropped the Indiana Jones game. There's an Indiana Jones game? And it is fucking fun. I'm telling you. Okay, great. Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. I didn't know there was an Indiana Jones game. It's great. You play as Indiana Jones. you're sneaking past beating up killing nazis nice you go from uh the vatican And you're solving puzzles and stuff. Oh, yeah. I'm telling you, this game, the story of this game,

Probably better than the last movie. Exactly. Better than the last two Indiana Jones movies. Oh, no. Like, it's great. Right on. It gets you in. You're solving shit. Like, you're pretending. I mean, you're Indiana Jones, right? So you're looking for clues.

This belongs in a museum. Of course. And, yeah, it's great. I would recommend if you're a video game person and you like Indiana Jones movies, that game is... very cool right on how about a little immersion therapy then big guy sounds Immersion Therapy So when I started Ugly Stepsister I couldn't get past the part where she had braces.

Yeah, was that a thing? There's no fucking way they had braces in Elizabethan England. But, whatever. At all, I mean, I don't think... I don't think any of this really... Because they didn't have glue that could glue to teeth back then? I doubt it, but I don't know. I mean, that guy that was like the cosmetic surgeon, he had a screw loose or two. Magnifique. Yeah. As soon as he broke out the hammer and chisel for the nose job. Oh yeah.

Fucking dude. That was gnarly. That's what we're doing then. Okay. I mean, that was gnarly. The eyelashes. Those eyelashes though. Fuck you. Fuck you, man. I kept rubbing my eyes when I'm watching that part. I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, we'll just stitch them right on there. No, but you can't do that. Oh, God. Oh, God. it is gnarly man uh ugly stepsister uh from 2024 streaming on shutter presently it is put it plainly it's cinderella told from the perspective of the uh ugly stepsister

And Cinderella's kind of a see you next Tuesday also. Yeah, but she got, yeah. I think it was Cool how they basically... said how she became Cinderella. Yeah. Like how they basically ostracized her. Yeah, yeah. You know? The whole thing makes sense in the end, right? Yeah. But, uh... Could have done without seeing the stable boys Johnson. I'll tell you that right now. I think it was a fake. I don't know. I hope so. If fucking that guy was

Other than that, it's a pretty good show, man. It's going to make you skin crawl a little bit. Yeah, a couple cringy parts. I don't know, dude, just the body horror of it, really. That's what it is. She was a bit of a nutbag. Oh my god. Yeah, dude. The part with the worms, though. Oh, good lord. I mean, I get it. Your whole family has put all this pressure on you to marry the rich guy because we are drowning in debt.

and mom married what we thought was a rich guy, and he kicked the bucket immediately after. Broke as a joke. Yeah, it's all up to you. You better do something, man. Maybe not that. Well, I feel like we need a palate cleanser after that, Dusty. What do you got for us this week? Hey, let's check out Companion. It is on Max currently. When Iris realizes that she is a made-to-order AI companion for her boyfriend, Josh, she must embrace who she is and fight to survive.

And like I said, you'll find it on Macs. Very cool. Check that shit out, inmates. We'll do the same and we can compare notes next week. How about a round of Who's Your Daddy while we wait? Who is Daddy? First, my clues from last week.

Well, I am a scientist and a bit of a, uh... philanthropist and somewhat of a ladies man i like to think dusty uh my good friend has barricaded himself in the basement he's working on our next big uh scientific breakthrough um his wife is a little nervous so she called me to stop by and check on him uh unfortunately he has somehow melded himself with an insect and now he's like a big monstrous thing with one stupid arm and there's a goddamn fly buzzing around here begging me to help him

I am, of course, the fly. Yes. The original. The original. Vincent Price. I got to tell you, I think the Cronenberg fly is better. Well, you think about it, that's our generation. Yeah. It's a horror movie. The original Fly, I suppose, in its time was a horror movie, but now...

Help me. Help me. Very silly. Just fucking stomp on him. Get back to banging his wife already. Who might I be this week, you ask? Well, ladies and gentlemen, I... thought I had cured cancer, and things were going pretty well for a minute, and then the genetic sequencing I used backfired, and all of a sudden, people weren't what they used to be.

Somehow I have completely avoided the big problem here and now I'm holed up in my house and I can only come out during the day. So I think my best bet at this point basically just going door to door and putting everybody out of their misery and uh I'll be goddamn if it didn't turn out that I'm actually the asshole in this equation because human society has just evolved and now everybody's terrified of me because they think I'm some kind of a rampaging lunatic, Dusty. Oh, boy. Fuck!

Well, whatever. I did my best. Who might I be, you ass? Tune in next week, and I'll drop some knowledge on you, inmate. In the meantime, I think that's about going to do it for us this week, buddy. Or Dusty? Or Busty? Busty. Dusty Busty. You got anything else on the week, my man? No, I think that's it. All right, thank you. Have a good week.

Thank you guys very much for listening. Like, comment, subscribe wherever you... here that heard this show that helps our visibility quite a bit any information you need about us our links our uh t our t villain link our patreon link Amazon link, it's all at paddedroompodcast.com. Just go hit that up and you'll find anything you need there. And an entire archive of our previous shows. fucking 15 years worth, dudes. That'll take you at least

Well, you'll get sick of me before you make it through the entire archive. I'm sick of me, and I'm not even listening. I didn't even download this. I have to live with this every day. More Buddy in absentia, his son, who I hope is feeling better. Yep, get better soon, Buddy. Wendigos, Native American spirits, the meth heads that happen to stumble upon them. scientists that are fucking around with teleportation. Fake eyelashes.

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