Booyah. Hello, hello, hello, hello. Let's turn you up a little bit there. Jeff is definitely good. Dusty? Hello, hello, hello. Is that me? Hello. I can't hear you guys. No? Uh-uh. Now I can. Just in one ear. Oh, really? I think these headphones are... Those are not my headphones. Do you hear me? I do. Very nice. Do you hear me? Do you guys hear me now? Oh, there you are. Okay. Hello, hello, hello, hello.
Yeah, much better. Okay, we're done. I'm going to play this in, and then we'll just see what happens. All right. I've actually never heard the intro, because I'm always on that one without the... This is a brand new intro. Yeah, we're not doing Dream Warriors because this is a whole other thing. And I'm going to try to make the intro a little more appropriate to the movie in question. That could be fucking techno, isn't it?
Yeah. Outro Music Yes, yes, yes, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Padded Room Podcast, proudly breaking it down and taking you into the basement verse. I have assembled for you Earth's Mightiest Heroes. In front of me is Dusty. Hello, hello. And Jeff. Hello. We are one basement boy short of the full basement crew.
Jason is gone in the wind, and he's not much of a Marvel fan, which brings me to our point of order here today, gentlemen. We are going to do something that many podcasters have attempted. Most of them have failed because... They just moved on to better things. They have other shit to do in their lives. I want us to go through the entire Marvel Universe.
marvel cinematic universe more to the point well i mean it is one big organism at this point there's the original marvel universe which is the comic books that we all knew and love And then it kind of changed. It kind of evolved into the movies that are now coming out. Because, let's be honest, they're not the same characters, right? I mean, they kind of are, but they look different, but they are not the same.
They kind of are, but they have to sit. To be honest, they just started making money, so that's where we're at. That's the problem, right? I mean, it's not a problem. I don't know. No, it's just different. Sometimes it's a problem, sometimes it's not. Because I love having these movies with these huge, giant budgets. A-list actors and all that stuff, but at the same time, why is he a female? When did that happen? He got Disney'd.
Sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes it's a bad thing. It is a verb now. I know. You can get Disney'd. Oh, shit. Why do I have pink hair all of a sudden? I don't know. I don't know what happened. Fuck, I got fucking Disney'd. We have quite the endeavor in front of us, gentlemen. Yes, we do. We are going to attempt to do this, I guess, in order of release is the plan. Okay. Which explains our entrance music here because we're going to kick it off.
Back in hallowed antiquity, the year of our lord, Ennu Domine. 1998. 1998. Yes, for those of you that speak English. 1998 is when the first... Well, okay, so actually we could go back even further, but I don't care to. because those movies were absolutely terrible. Oh, yeah, the first attempts at the Avengers and the Captain Americas. Oh, God, there's a Roger Corman Fantastic Four out there. The original guy that played Thor on screen, you can see he's got like a DeWalt hammer.
And it was like a golden girl's wig on. Oh, love it. I love that. I don't know what's wrong with that. It almost takes us back to adventures and babysitting. Remember that, dude? Yeah, that was Defong. Or what's his name? He plays Kingpin now. Yeah, Dion... He plays Kingpin. God damn it. Dioniforio. Dioniforio, yeah. That's the best I can do right now. That's what it's going to be now. Yeah. Private Pyle. Yeah.
Deanna Frio. Jacket. So as the entrance music would allude to, I think the best starting point to this endeavor is going to be what I consider to be... the starting point of the MCU that we know and love today, Blade from 1998. Well, now it is. It's not quite as controversial as it used to be, that statement. Very true. My argument previous to Deadpool and Wolverine was that Blade, the success of the original Blade movie...
And the Blade trilogy for that meant, well, okay, so if we're going to go in order of release, I think it would go Blade, Blade 2, X-Men. The success of Blade and Blade 2 got funding for X-Men, which then kind of bled into Sam Raimi's Spider-Man. man to the um toby mcguire spider man and then that kind of got the ball rolling and that pushed us up into iron man and then that was about the time that disney bought marvel and then from there
Kaboom! Atom bombs went off and everything else. That was when Feige first got involved, right? Was it Iron Man 1? Iron Man 1, and that's where the original idea to... And honestly... I think that was the original idea to actually bring multiple... A shared universe. Yeah, a shared universe, the multiple independent... films into one giant universe. But before that, no one had expected X-Men to bleed into any other type of superhero movie. That was it. Very cool. So I think...
It's a great idea. I love it. I'm a Marvel Comics guy. I always have been. Not to the level that Jeff is, obviously.
I can wax poetic about my favorite heroes and their origins and upbringings and who came from what and where and all that stuff. But the idea that we can have several movies that are linked together into this... cohesive universe that has never been done before yep it was a very original idea and now we got it bleeds into these TV shows we got the Netflix shows we got the Defenders Daredevil all that stuff She-Hulk Moon Knight it just keeps going yep and I don't think it's
to stop anytime soon. Well, there's no reason to. The comment I made about them making money now, so that's not always a bad thing. No. Because obviously... You just need to cull that, right? Because sometimes it just gets too out of hand, and they start making sequels to things that don't need sequels, but they're doing it just to grab a few extra bucks. But I think Feige's actually done a pretty good job of doing that, for the most part. Obviously, there's some...
There's some gripes I have recently. Yeah, recently. I think the... the market is starting to get a little saturated. And it felt like a while there, last couple years maybe, they were just putting shit out just to put shit out. Just to put it out. And what they thought people wanted, they really weren't listening to what the audience...
really wide. There is that too. They used to correct ship. I was going to say, yeah, they kind of dialed it back a little bit with the disclaimers and all that fun stuff. But enough about that, gentlemen. We have something very important to talk about, and that is the original movie, Blade, from 1998. Oh, man, I love this fucking movie. Do you? When I was... Oh, I still love it, but I really, really dug it. When I was...
A junior in high school is when this came out. Motherfucker. I was a Lance Corporal in the Marine Corps when this movie came out, you son of a bitch. You're not that much older than me. I know. Great show. I didn't actually catch it in the theaters. I don't think Jeff was out of elementary school. Was that 98? Yeah. Fourth grade? Something like that. I'm 37 now. Somebody do the math because I ain't doing it. That's okay. Jeff, how much of a Blade fan are you? Um...
You know, he's one of those characters that I never really followed too much on just as a standalone character. But he's been involved in some really cool groups. And if you look at his history and his power set and kind of his backstory and everything, I mean, there's no reason not to love him. So Wolverine being one of my favorite characters, I think one of them. Everybody's favorite characters nowadays. But it's hard to justify not loving Blade just as much.
Probably more because he can do things that Wolverine can't. But yeah, I never really followed him too closely as a singular character. But he's got some wild stories in the comics. Absolutely. It's really, really funny. My first introduction to him was as part of the original Night Stalkers. Yeah, that's what I was going to say, too. Which, as I recall, included Morbius, who we'll get into in probably six years from now. Well, he plays a big role in the current...
character of Blade 2. I don't know if anybody knows this, but Blade, he was born in the 20s. In the movie, it's a little different. In the comics, he was born in the 20s. He was born in London. Comes to America. It's the same type of backstory. Mom is giving birth and gets bit by a vampire while he's in utero.
he develops these powers but he doesn't really have the ability to walk outside in the daylight fully he still has a sunlight sensitivity And it's not until much, much later when he's fighting Morbius, with the help of Spider-Man, mind you, where he gets bit by Morbius.
And Morbius being a very unique vampire, a living vampire, it kind of changed his blood, Blade's blood, to where he no longer had the light sensitivity. And he develops a few other different powers too. But basically, being bit by Morbius got rid of... all of the downsides to being a vampire for him.
so a lot of people don't realize they think he was born with these things just because he's half human but it wasn't until much later when he was fighting Morbius he got bit and became the current the day walker the day walker basically that's where he donned the monster Cool. So that could have been something. I know Morbius didn't do very good at the box office. But they could have made Morbius the main villain of the first movie, though, too. Instead, we got Deacon Frost.
Dwarf. Yeah. Stephen Dwarf. Stephen Dwarf. Cute little fella that he is. Yeah, but his hair was on point. Right? Right? Just always wet somehow. It just kind of... The Cure, Robert Smith kind of pullover thing. It was the era. So good. It was the era. So I watched it with my son last night. Biggest down point that I would say is that it's two hours long. It's a very long movie. We have a lot of fighting...
random vampires that don't really matter. We don't even know their names. They're going to get killed in five seconds. Yeah, the Vampire Tuffs. Vampire Tuffos is what it is. Which is cool. I mean, I love a Kung Fu movie. You have to remember what time this happened, right? Oh, yeah. This is smack dab in the middle of the matrix and all these other movies that were, let's do 15 minute fight scenes and Kung Fu and sword play. You also have to slow motion kickflips.
Yeah, you're not doing that. You're not doing that unless it's in slow-mo. Hey, I can float in the air for 14 seconds if I want. But you also have to understand, this is Wesley Snipes, too. Oh, yes. And we all know that he had a big hand in how this movie was actually.
directed too. I'm sure there was one Vision and then he comes in and he's... No, motherfucker, I can do that better! He's a little egocentric, as he should be. He's Wesley Snipes. He's actually a very skilled martial artist, but you know that he... Oh, yeah. He had a hand in how long those fight scenes were. Sure. I don't know that that's necessarily a negative. No. I mean, I guess my main gripe, well, there's some plot holes, but I'll get into that in a second.
My main gripe is that for a Blade origin story, there was very little origin and just a lot of nonsensical fighting. It was a quick origin. It was just basically like... A 30 second prelude at the beginning of the movie. And then... And then Whistler starts to flesh it out a little bit when he's talking to the doctor. I would say that Chris Christopherson is probably the high point of this movie. Absolutely. He is awesome. He is a fucking stud. Fun fact for you. Chris Christopherson, birthday.
July 18th. All right. This guy. Look at that. It's like we're blood brothers. Well, he's not going to have any more birthdays, Darian. Well, I know. But I'm going to start chain smoking and grow my hair out real long. Yeah. No, he was definitely a great hard-nosed father figure. He was like major dad. Totally. He was just a...
old mean son of a bitch, but you knew he loved him kind of thing. That's what was cool about it. And I was explaining to my son last night that the original first appearance of Blade was 1980. Dracula something number 10. Unbound or something like that. This was a time when every comic book hero came with a techie sidekick. Everybody had one. Batman had Alfred. The Punisher had Microchip.
Blade has Whistler. So that's fun. It's a fun thing. I kind of like it. We don't get that anymore. You just get some weird multi-million dollar organization behind them. Exactly. And then whatever gadget they need in that moment. Oh, here it is. I needed an explosive thing to blow the fucking thing off. Well, and Whistler was actually not his... In the comics, it was...
It wasn't Whistler who is his mentor. Whistler was based very closely off of the original one. In the comic books, Blade hasn't even started hunting vampires at this point. And he comes across. He knows who he is. He knows what he is. He comes across this guy on the street. He ends up being this mysterious jazz musician. And he's being attacked by these three guys. And then he goes over to help him. He finds out that...
I'm not going to be able to fight these guys. They're all vampires and they're trying to kill this guy. However, this guy ends up killing the vampires and Blade's like, oh shit. How'd you do that? This is who I am. How'd you do that? It's going to be my life's goal. My mom was killed by one of these things.
take me under your wing type of situation. So Whistler was based very loosely off of that character. But I appreciate how they... did him in the movie cool because in the comics he was more of like this um he wasn't much of a father figure so much as he just was He was teaching him some things. So when he was killed, it wasn't really like a big sad thing. Okay. Whistler dies. Obviously, you can see Blade, you know, Wesley Smith's Blade. He was...
trying to remain unaffected, but you can even tell in the second movie when he finds him alive. Oh, yeah. You know, it's almost that father-son bond. For sure. Yeah, we watched it not too long ago, the kid and I, and she was, you know. very heartbroken when Whistler dies. She was, oh no. She was very sad. Very, very sad. In that terms, they did their job as Marvel did or whoever, the creators. It wasn't the MCU at that time.
to basically give you an emotional attachment to his father figure so that you are, you know, upset when he dies and you're like, all right. Blade, you'll kill him, motherfucker. You don't get that? So, we're watching it last night. We get to the scene where Blade gets back to the weird... compound or whatever it is and he finds the VHS tape which I had to explain to my son what it was no fucking idea what a VHS tape is but you're magical I know right Whistler is in the dentist
looking chair with a sheet over him Blade pulls the cover off he looks dead and then Whistler says give me the gun and walk away my son's exact words isn't he going to smoke a cigarette first your son knows priorities he does and he knows he's watching for these things um Yeah, I like Whistler. Whistler's great. He's the microchip to Blade, or at least for the purposes of these movies, until part two when our old friend shows back up.
Norman Reedus. What's his name? Young, young Norman Reedus. What is he? Scoot or Scud? Scud. I have a question for you, gentlemen. But I'm going to save it for the next show. Oh, here we go. I know this fucking question. No, no, no, no. I'm going to save it for the next show. I'm not going to even dignify that with an ask. Oh, right. Just never mind that.
So, Jeff, you're the expert. Did the character of Deacon Frost ever show up in the comic books? Or any kind of, like, La Magra kind of this ritual? So Deacon Frost is in the comics. He is a legitimate comic historical figure. Some of the details are a little bit different, obviously. Just based on timeline. Because in the movie, obviously as a half vampire, Blade's going to age very slowly. But...
In the movie, he's appropriately aged for it being 1998. So he would have been born in the late 60s, early 70s, something like that. But... In the comics being born in the 20s, there were some things that they played with. But he is an actual character. He is killed. So there's two main... In the comics, there's two main... targets for Blade. One being Deacon Frost, obviously, because he killed his mom. And...
In the comics, the doctor who was delivering Blade was actually Deacon Frost. Oh, okay. So as he's delivering, or he's about to deliver Blade, he ends up feeding on his mom. So that's kind of a little twist. And the other one being Dracula. So who he ends up also killing and then him coming back to life and then later on teaming up with, which is a really cool comic from 2000. They did this whole thing where Blade ends up finding probably his most powerful enemy.
yet and um he goes to dracula and dracula teaches him all the ways to be like master being a vampire oh yeah and he develops some cool powers and everything like that but um All that to say that there were some liberties taken, but he's still a character. I don't like... the character of deacon frost in the movie so much i don't like the snotty brat that ends up somehow taking out one of the head of the purebreds yeah
with just a handful of other half-breeds. Okay, well, he's got sunscreen on. He's got sunscreen and a bike helmet. And a motorcycle helmet. And he did put a motorcycle helmet on. Yeah. You're telling me that that guy, basically the vampire president doesn't have his own secret service or whatever. No way. And we all know that vampires get stronger as they age, and these guys have been vampires for years.
Centuries now. Jason Frost has been a vampire for maybe 100 years. So I didn't really like the character so much, but it is a historical figure in the comics. There were some issues I took with... how he was able to do what he did as a snotty little brat. Yeah. So, I mean, to the point of exposition, like, you can't really... How many comic books can you squeeze into one movie? How many volumes? You know what I mean? Right.
Like, for the point of, like, if we were going to go back to the Blade comic books and follow the trajectory of Deacon Frost, I'm sure there would be, like, some kind of weird power play where he outsmarts the... president of the vampire society and does something else and then like talks these guys into
Switching sides. Exactly, yeah. Some Game of Thrones-esque fucking horse shit. It all makes sense. A lot more chess pieces moving around besides what he just did. Exactly. Basically kidnapped him out of his own... sanctuary. We don't know. Where there's no guards around guarding the president. Suddenly they just show up on the beach and start slathering each other. Another high point of this movie for me, Donald Logan as Quinn. I think he was one of my favorites. He's awesome. He just...
He's one of my favorites in whatever. I know, right? Sons of Anarchy. He was in Vikings also. He was the Earl of whatever the hell. I just love him. I love him because he can be the goofy... you know, dumb vampire sidekick. Yeah. Also play a really serious role. I just, anytime he shows up, I, Oh yeah. He's great. He's so good. Yeah. He's a, he's the guy that just the chatterbox in the fucking corner. He's just like, You just...
You would love to hate him, but you kind of just like him. He's just a doofus, man. And I love how he never changes his look. He's like, fuck it. I'm going to play all these characters looking exactly the same, and you're going to deal with it. He's got hanging out and whatever. You don't care. Long hair, big red beard.
yeah give zero fucks this is who i am that's it hey in gotham he did wear a hat so there's that gotcha played uh commissioner gordon's partner for a hot minute um as far as this movie goes we're talking 1998 so Special effects-wise, CGI-wise, there's a bit to be desired, especially when we get to the Tomb of La Magra. Right, right. Okay, so the character of Danica.
She gets killed. We're going to see her again in Blade Trinity. We're just going to write this off. It's never explained in Blade Trinity how she comes back, but she gets hit with the antigen or the... exploding vampire serum. The anticoagulant yada yada whatever. Yeah it's like a super allergic reaction they have which was gnarly by the way. Yeah. She just comes back in Blade Trinity and suddenly resurrects Dracula played by Dominic Purcell.
by the way, from Prison Break. But the main thing is that... See if you're with me on this. We're going to resurrect La Magra, the blood god, and she's going to choose... just going to kind of be forced to choose Deacon Frost as her living avatar. Her or him. I don't know if there was a gender assigned to La Magra or not. Well, in Spanish, law is female. Okay, we'll go with that. Her. Now, as we saw in all the very cool little computer graphics.
in Pearl's archive situation. You need the original 12. to be lined up because they all got to get the blood dripped on their forehead, right? Okay, so Danica leads the 12 in, and then one of them gets Mouthy with her, so she takes Blade's sword and kills him. We're done.
We're done here. Done. That's it. We can't do it now. Did they have an extra one? Well, they all have. Well, if you were watching the movie about, I don't know, nine minutes later when the blood is dropping down and the lightning bolts are flashing, the dude that got killed is right back there and he gets blood on his face.
I had not noticed that. So, whatever, man. And I don't mean to nitpick, but that's a bit of a problem. And how was the, not the original, but the first of the originals who got killed on the beach? By the sunrise. How is he not... How is he not part of the thing? My son figured that out. He's like, if they can do it without... How do they do it without him? I don't think... I think it just has to be... Twelve. Twelve, like, ancient ones. Or twelve, like... Now.
Well, I think it just has to be 12 of the... It was like one from each clan. Purebloods, right. It just has to be 12 purebloods. Thinking back now, having watched it last night, when... After Deacon Frost kills the guy on the beach and cuts to the next scene and he sits down in his chair at the table, he does say, I'm going to need 12 volunteers. Correct. Now, that's a little cheeky because they're not going to volunteer for shit.
But I'm sure that means, that kind of alludes to, he doesn't need 12 specific people. Maybe just 12. Just one vampire from each. That's what I kind of interpret. Thinking back, that kind of makes a little sense now. But it was never explained. And it definitely doesn't explain how the guy. that got killed with the sword is standing there. Because it was the same guy. Oh, it was, totally. Whatever.
I never noticed that. Whatever. Yeah, I mean, you only see him for a second. He just gets the blood, and then he goes, and then the lightning bolt, and then the weird skeleton thing comes flying out of him, which was kind of cool for 1998. I have a question for you guys. It's very important. Super Fight. Who do you want to see Blade square off against? Ooh, that's a good one. I've got a go-to. I've been sitting on this one for a while.
Inside the current MCU? Whoever. Oh, shit, okay. I would like to see Blade fight Riddick. Oh, Riddick? So outside of it? Okay, Riddick? Yeah. I think it would be good for about five minutes. Yeah, Blade's going to win. I think Riddick would do well for the first three. And then he's just getting...
He's getting fucked up. Yeah, he's just a dude. Because you think about it, I mean, Blaze got super strength. They don't really show a lot of that in the movie, but he's got supernatural strength, speed, senses. He actually has a sixth sense. that they don't really explain in the movie either. He's got Wolverine-esque healing factor. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think Riddick... Riddick is like...
Captain America. Peak human. The only reason I bring Riddick into this conversation is because Riddick is a killer. He doesn't want to fight you. He doesn't want to beat you up. He wants to kill you. As far as I can tell, the only surefire way to kill Blade is with that one quick stake to the heart. Boom. He's done. Right? No, he came back from...
He hasn't... So how he was almost killed was... The majority of the time in the movies, how he's almost killed is basically being drained, right? Like he's lost all of his... He doesn't have his serum. He's drained of blood. And then to... Get his spinach, per se. He has to jump into a pool of blood or suck somebody's blood or whatever, right? Right. So, I mean, it seems like he can be killed only by deficit of blood.
possibly by taking his head off, I'm sure, just like all the rest of the vampires. Well, that too. But I don't think the stake, because he's not allergic to silver. Right, yeah, he's not allergic to silver. So he doesn't have any of the downsides of the weaknesses.
of a vampire. He only has the strength. That's kind of his MO. He has all the strengths, none of the weaknesses. So unless you hit him right in the heart and stop his heart, I don't think the silver stake is going to do anything. I don't know. This is where I think...
Yeah, I'll have to do a lot more reading because, again, it's just one of those things that I haven't read a lot of the comics, like the Blade comics. I'm sure they're at some point, because Marvel does this, they killed them off and then brought them back. Of course. But, yeah, I'm sure. Cut his head off? Oh, I guarantee if his head comes off, he's probably not going to grow that back. Maybe. Well, you know, Wolverine and Deadpool do. Yeah, he's known to have a rival healing factor.
Something to rival Wolverine. Something to do a little bit more research on. I just don't think Riddick would be able to... He's not as durable. Not nearly as durable. Then who would you like to see Blade fight? I figured one out. Luke Cage? No. Black on black crime? Well, if we're going outside MCU. Okay. My go-to would be Blade vs. Well, this is actually a comic probably. Blade vs. Predator. How cool would that be? Ooh.
That'd be a cool fight, right? I mean, all those gadgets and shit versus Blade, like his healing abilities. I would assume that Blade... would possibly win. But I mean, I mean, the Predators got all the glaives to cut heads off and stuff. We don't know, you know, I don't know. I would like to see, and this is kind of sacrilegious, like talking on a Marvel show, but I'd like to see him fight Lobo. Ooh! Because Lobo has near Superman strength. Yeah.
I mean, he technically can't die because hell refuses to take him. So that would be a fun fight to see.
I'd love to see him fight Wolverine. Everybody would love to see Slash fight Wolverine. Punisher would be fun, but at the same time, I don't think Punisher could last as long. No. But yeah, Lobo would be fun. There was an old... edition of what if somewhere down the archives and it was what if wolverine was a vampire lord of the vampires lord of the vampires i read that one yeah yeah that was a long time ago and blade was looking for him yep
I don't think they ever actually battled it out, though. It was just kind of a hypothetical thing. Yeah, no, that would be... So, yeah, I think Lobo would be fun because... Lobo being super mouthy, and then Blade being super serious, I think that interaction would be... It would be akin to Deadpool and Wolverine. So, that being said, I mean... I kind of feel like Wesley Snipes' interpretation of Blade was a little bon vivant there.
So I was noticing that, too. For the most part, he was very stoic. He played a very stoic, yeah. Then he had some, especially in the second one, where he meets the blood pack, and he's talking. He's talking to Reinhardt and he's kind of coaxing him to try to kill him. He's getting jokey. He wasn't as... But in the comics, he's like hardcore. Just like...
I'm not going to talk to you. I'm going to sit here brooding until I need to kill something. Okay. Very cool. I'm into it. I like that. Good stuff. Dusty, what did you think of the initial Blade movie? The one we're talking about right now? The one we just watched. Oh, yeah. Like I said, in that era of my life, I loved it. I was into comics. I was into the kung fu shit. I was into swords.
I actually own a blade sword. Look at you. Wow. It doesn't have the... Don't touch it. No, it doesn't have the booby trap. It does not have the booby trap. You got the pig sticker. I got the pig sticker. It actually hung above my bed for a long time. Nice. So, yeah, I was super into it. I mean, that's the thing is back then in that age of my life, it was right in the right direction.
thing that I was really into. This movie, I feel like, kind of tapped into the... nightlife subculture of early 2000s pre-underworld style but definitely kicked that whole thing off which I love I love that whole sub-genre to the vampire culture and then being that you know like you said being that
era whenever you watch it again it just it's a now it turns into a nostalgic thing right because it's fucking it's 30 years ago now almost you know so is it holding up because of nostalgia or is it holding up because it just can and i think it can i think it holds up because it can like How Darian was saying, the CGI, right? But none of the movies of that era really hold up with their CGI. I think the only one that actually holds up with their CGI is the first one that did it.
Pretty much. Terminator 2. Well, okay, that one does. But it is still a little wonky. I mean, there's some parts... Watching it now, yeah. When he walks out of the burning semi-truck, right? I mean, it's that... Silver Man, right? But then he kind of steps into T-1000, right? I think the movie that did it the best, that came out before Blade, and it still holds up if you watch it, is actually Jurassic Park. The first one where they actually...
Totally, and I remember seeing that movie as a younger person and thinking, they look fucking real, right? The vampires, or the dinosaurs look fucking real. But then you go see Blade, right? And you're thinking, this big bloated... Deacon Frost La Magra God when he's blown up. I was like, this is fucking ridiculous. So now it doesn't hold up. I think what I appreciated, though, is they didn't... Because later on, the movie started...
oversaturating their movies with CGI and if it was crappy CGI it just destroyed the movie. Yes, I agree. It wasn't too much. Right. CGI going on in Blade. And that's what was cool about it. They limited it so it didn't really ruin the movie for me. They got more into it in the next two movies, though. Right. I mean, Blade 1... All the fight scenes were just choreographed. Actual people fighting. And then I believe it was in Blade 3. We'll get to it. But he's having that fight.
in his compound in front of those spotlights. And you can see it's a fucking cartoon video game Blade flipping around. I enjoyed the fact of Blade 1 that it was pure. They had to put some CGI into it. Because at the end, how are you going to do that with practical effects? It was an accent to the movie. It wasn't taking over the whole movie. And obviously the second one with the main villain.
having his face open up, like, yeah, there's going to be a lot more of it, but it got really bad during Blade 3, or Trinity. Yeah, Blade 3, it just regressed, and it's made, what, six years later, something like that? Yeah, something like that. Well, I mean, you're right. I think the understatement of the CGI in this one kind of works to its benefit looking back at it. Sure.
I haven't seen Blade 2 or 3 in a very long time, but I look forward to it. I remember liking Blade 2 more than Blade 1, just because I felt like it was more of a horror movie with those weird crackhead vampires. It's just because they were a little bit more, like you said, horror-ish. Guillermo del Toro. Yeah, because he does good with the monsters and everything like that. I mean, but it's still an action movie in my... Oh, yeah. It's not a...
They're both action movies with horror elements, if you will. Because it's not a hunter-stalker kind of slasher or whatever trope you want to put into a horror trope. But it has horror elements. I see where you're going with probably just because of the creatures were more horror-esque. They weren't just the... Pale skin, sexy vampires, right? Yeah, I want to party with these dudes. Yeah, exactly. Dude, if Tracy Lords picks me up and takes me into a meat locker...
Let's go. Oh, yeah. I would have fell for the trap. Kill me. I'll go wherever you want. You're going to make out with chicks under a blood rain thing. I'm down. I'll hang. I'll hang out. I'll see what's going on.
But all in all, I think it was a good show. I credit this movie with being the start of the MCU. I think the success of this one... kind of snowballing into the second one and then x-men and then spider-man that kind of once we saw like a market viability for marvel movies that kind of put us into
range and scope for Iron Man, which by then Disney had it in Kaboom. I agree with you. I agree with you that it basically was a... proof of concept, if you will, of we can make a good Marvel movie now with the technology we have in filmmaking, be it very kind of... outdated now to our standards. Sure. But they saw the potential in that, right? Because how are you going to make some of these fantastical heroes for one? And, you know, Iron Man was...
All CGI, but it looks badass, right? I mean, there were some practical suits and stuff, but I think you're right. It did, I think at least, if nonetheless, planted a seed in the brains of, hey... We can make money on this shit. And maybe, and then you get Kevin Feige come along to, hey, not only one, but let's tie them all together just like the comics tie together. Let's just, so I think it was, like you said, it was probably the seed in the brain.
to start this whole thing. I think what helped, I think that if it were almost any other Marvel character other than Blade, we probably wouldn't... We probably wouldn't have the MCU as we have today because Blade was so unassuming.
They weren't trying to make a comic book movie. They weren't trying to make an action movie. I agree with you. They weren't trying to make a horror movie. It was kind of everything all in one. So it was just like, you know what? We're going to put this out. This is an interesting character. And we'll see how it goes. If they started with X-Men, if they started with Spider-Man or any of these other characters, the want...
I think the expectations would have been too high. It would have been too high, or the want just wouldn't have been there from the audiences. That's not what we wanted back then, right? It's what I wanted. I would have always wanted, but the average moviegoer wouldn't have... Okay, it's another... It would have been thought of as like a kid's show or a kid's movie, right? This one just... It doesn't really have...
I can't put my thumb on exactly what genre movie Blade actually is, which is good. Because that is what kind of like, you know, they kind of slipped it under the table to us and said, if you like it, you like it. If not, then we didn't really try to, you know, they weren't appealing to any certain group of people, which was great. So I think, and then with X-Men being...
at least that first one for sure, being almost a little bit darker of a comic book movie too. They kind of kept with that like, alright, it's an action movie, we got comic book characters, it's a little darker, it's touching on some really like... darker social issue type themes. But then with Spider-Man, I think what they saw was
There's a need for these characters. They're relatable characters. Now we're going to just go with the Flash. And then that took off, and then it kind of escalated from there. But I think with Blade, if it was anybody else, I don't know... if it would have taken off the way it did. I agree. We've all seen Deadpool and Wolverine, I assume. How much of a boner did you get when Blade...
Wesley Snipes Blade walked out of that cave. We saw it together in the movie theater. So we watched each other's boners. Oh, I love it. Let's go. You got a nerdgasm going on? Yes, sir. Never let a buddy's boner go. go solo uh no it was that was incredible and that's the thing too is um you know after being blue balled so much up until that point um because marvel and kevin flagge have done a good job of kind of leaking or just kind of um
Easter egging a little bit. Yeah, Easter egging stuff, and some of it comes to fruition, some of it doesn't, but just giving us a little bit of what we want at a time. And then up until that point, just getting blue balled by a bunch of different stuff, like trying to bring back the nostalgia of the early 2000s, late 90s characters, but not really ever getting them.
And then Ryan Reynolds being like, fuck it, bring them all. Most of them, at least. That was really fucking cool. Finally getting that... Just what we've been wanting for so long. It's kind of like a...
validation in a weird way. Right, right. And I don't think they're going to be able to do that again, at least for a while, just because you wouldn't want to get... too numb to getting everything that you want right because that was a very shock and awe kind of moment right that was like holy shit it's fucking blade you know like yeah and the same thing with with uh some of the avengers movies too right when you see captain america pick up thor's hair oh yeah
Yeah. Oh, no, no. You haven't seen it. I have not, but I have seen that part. Okay. It's been blasted all over social media. All right. We're going to watch it. I'm looking at you with utter shock and disgust on my face. Since it already came out then, but just watching Captain America pick up Thor's hammer, it's like... But it was teased in the... Age of Ultron.
Right, exactly. But until Endgame, you're not remembering that scene. You think it's just a throwaway scene up until that point. Guys like us remember that scene. I do, I do. But what I wouldn't want is for something that massive and that satisfying, I guess, to happen in every single movie. Just because it's like having an orgasm every time you stand up. At a certain point, you're just going to get numb to it. It's not going to have the same...
Oomph. You know what I mean? So, yeah, without letting the genie out of the bottle, that kind of leads us into the Deadpool movies. I feel like... They're good. They're funny. They're 85% comedy with Ryan Reynolds doing his thing. But I feel like in those movies, there is an awful lot of winking and nodding at the audience. Oh, yeah. A lot. Oh, for sure. I feel like... That's how he is comically in the comics, too. He breaks the fourth wall. No, I get it, but like...
The first instance comes to my head in Deadpool 1 when he picks up the action figure of him as the original Deadpool in Wolverine Origins. Okay, we get it, bro. We get it. We got you. You know what I mean? It's cool. But the first time you see it, you get a little chuckle out of it, right? You do. That's what he's going for. Yeah, but I mean, I feel like that happens like every ten minutes in the Deadpool movies. Maybe dial it back a little.
He does Ryan Reynolds things. I mean, he plays himself, basically. I mean, you look at Blade 3, and Hannibal King is fucking Deadpool. Yep, pretty much, yeah. I mean, that's who he is. But... You know, I don't know. If he's going to give you those little winks and nods, it's... just like he's in the comics, breaking the fourth wall, knowing what the audience wants to see and that kind of stuff. Right. Whereas when you bring out Blade in Deadpool 3, in Deadpool Wolverine, it was...
Not as good as Cap picking up Thor's hammer, but it was another one of those moments, right? It was satisfying. Yes. Honestly, with Blade... I understand Elektra. I understand Gambit for sure. But Blade was completely... Oh, yeah. I was completely shocked by that. And pleasantly, right? Because people like us having this same conversation have been having this conversation.
since the mcu started right where who are the who's the ogs right yeah and so many people say blades so seeing that that was that was genius of him to bring that in yeah and honestly um the way he brought him in They even said it when they were doing that last battle. Like, finally we'll get our good ending. Yeah. Right? Yeah, yeah. I just want everybody, because...
None of those characters ever really got their crescendo, right? Yeah, just left off. Nobody ever got an Iron Man death. So that was smart. That was smart. Now, honestly, I think, though... Part of the problem, the development hell that the new Blade movie has been in, I think that even threw another freaking wrench in the works. Right. Because of how... well of response that Wesley Snipes' Blade got. Well, and I'm sure Ryan Reynolds didn't help.
Either when he wrote in Blade's line saying, only ever going to be one Blade. Yeah, exactly. And then he does that little wink at the camera or whatever and is like, maybe there is only ever going to be one Blade. That's what people want. That's true. And that's what I'm wondering about because now I think the new Blade does not have any kind of news on it or whatever. I don't know.
I think Cottonmouth was going to be the new Blade for a hot minute. There was going to be... I'm talking about the guy that plays Cottonmouth. What was his name? Marshal Ali. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he would have been fine, but then... If you do that, then you kind of write Cottonmouth out of Luke Cage, because you can't have... Unless you take it to Deadpool land, where...
Chris Evans can be both Captain America and Johnny Storm at the same time. I can't remember the name of the actor now, but he played Quicksilver and then he also played Kraven. I understand they're two different... Aaron Taylor. Aaron Taylor, yeah. So it's happened. And especially Cottonmouth being... I mean, he's a known character, but he's not like...
Blade-level character. No, and he's far removed at this point. Exactly. Well, I guess there's a new season of Daredevil coming out here in a little bit. Yep. Next week, I think. Isn't it March 3rd or something? Next week, and then... Yeah, another bringing back Punisher. That's going to be a good one. Oh, I'm psyched, bros. I'm psyched. Let's go down the road together, shall we? Yep. All right. Closing, anything on Blade? I would say...
I'm just going to ask. What do you guys think? Is Blade more of a comic book movie or is it more of a horror movie? I will actually suggest a third category, which is a kung fu movie. I think this is just fight after fight after fight after Blade kicking the shit out of this guy, kicking the shit, going into this party, going to that rave, blowing the fuck out of everybody else. I honestly would agree with Darian in terms of I would...
I would categorize it as a martial arts action movie like we were getting of the time, like the Matrix movie. But it just happened to be inspired or... the idea was derived from a comic book. Okay. So I don't think that, honestly, because they weren't trying to be, yes, they derived characters from the comic books, but they were not...
following one true storyline of the books, much like they do try to with the MCU in terms of the overall arching story, right? The Infinity Gauntlet. I mean, obviously that must have been changed a lot too. But I would like to say, I would consider it a martial arts action movie based upon a comic book. Okay. I will agree with action movie. I think there's some criteria for kung fu movie, which would be most... Of all of the opponents.
No kung fu or martial arts? Okay. Yeah, you're probably... I would say that Blade, outside of maybe one or two of the other vampires, was the only one that knew actual martial arts. Well, wait a minute, sir. I'm just saying. Now, you wait just a damn minute. You're going to tell me the chick that grabbed the two meat hooks and did the... No, no, no, no, no. I said outside. She was one of the two. There was a dude. There was a dude. Okay.
But everybody else was just kind of flailing or shooting guns. I'm saying, I'll give you action movie. I agree. We're not doing Bruce Lee any justice here. Dusty just inspired me. Just listening to him talk right there. He just inspired me. I'm very inspiring. He's got a pretty mouth. And it just occurred to me that I need to change my super fight. I don't want to see Blade fight Riddick anymore. I want to see Blade fight The Crow.
You're welcome! Woo! Woo! All right. All right. Speechless. Speechless. Speechless. Eric Draven versus Eric Brooks. It's an Eric on Eric battle. We can go even deeper. Skarsgård or Lee? Oh, it's got to be Lee. Yeah. Skarsgård was... He was Skarsgård. We've been scar guarded. He was an emotional. He was a very much in love young man, but he's not going to do that flippy kick thing on the table with the two guns that we did. No way.
I like it. I like Blade. It's very nostalgic watching it now. The CGI, in my opinion, as understated as it is, just doesn't hold up. Like the part where Deacon Frost gets cut in half and then... Oh, yeah, pulls them back together. The Jell-O mold kind of puts them together. And then, of course, at the end when he hot air balloons himself or whatever. But it's still a good show, and it's fun. And it's good to see Wesley Snipes back when he was jacked.
And he had mysterious brown eyes and they were kind of a little bit too light for him. I think he was wearing contacts. That's fine. Oh, he was for sure. I think they had to try to give him kind of vampire eyes. That was the attempt to giving him... Okay. Vampire-esque eyes. Give them yellow eyes or something. Yeah. I don't know. Whatever. Definitely worth watching. This is the beginning, gentlemen. We're going to ride this crazy train all the way to the end.
Until our divorces. Absolutely. Until we are no longer allowed to speak to each other or something like that. All right, you guys got anything else on Blade before we kick it to the kids in the basement? Nope, I don't think so. All right, let's get upstairs with Deacon. You said the kids in the basement. The attic. Where are the kids? The kids under the stairs? The kids in the crawl space. Let's get upstairs with Deacon.
Thank you, Dusty and Jeff. I am up here in the attic with my main man, Deacon. Deacon, what's up, dude? What's up, bro? We just watched Blade 1, the first Blade movie. Oh, my God. You're getting all choked up already? Yeah. What did you think of Blade? It was good. You liked it? Yeah. You liked those action sequences? Yeah. All the kicks and the flips and the swordsmanship?
Yeah, you could not do that. I could totally do that. I could kill a vampire if I needed to. Yeah, with like a million guns. I don't need a million guns. Just give me a samurai sword. That's all it takes, apparently. No, no. So here's what you didn't know, DeeDee. This movie, the one that we just watched, was actually the first movie... to start the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This came out in 1999, and it was, up until about a year ago, considered to not be part.
of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. You know why? Why? Because it doesn't technically tie into any of the other movies until Wolverine and Deadpool came on the scene and Blade showed back up in that movie. So is it still a part of them? It is now. Okay. Okay, so let's do a little quick history lesson. So there was the MCU, but before that, Sony had their own... segment of Marvel movies. That included Blade, the original Spider-Man with Tobey Maguire, the original X-Men,
The original Fantastic Four with Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans, who would later go on to be Captain America. Weird thing. With Michael Jackson? No, Michael Jackson. You're out of control, dude. Anyway, some fun facts about Blade. He was part of the... We're going into comic book territory here. Are you yawning? Yes. How dare you? I'm going to smack your dirty little face yawning at me. I'm trying to impart some knowledge about Blade here. Oh, okay.
Okay, fart face. I'm going to kick you right out of this podcast. What? Blade was actually, I don't know, you couldn't tell from watching the movie, but the original story of Blade took place in Hell's Kitchen, New York. which was where Daredevil, The Defenders, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Elektra all also took place. So it wouldn't surprise me if we saw some kind of a tie-in with those Marvel TV shows that were on Netflix. You remember those? Those were pretty cool, right?
Where are you going? What are you doing? Yeah, those are cool. What are you doing? Can you not sit in the chair? I can sit in the chair. Oh, you're already driving me crazy, dude. Anyway, so... At the time that this movie was made, there was no allusions to any kind of a Marvel Cinematic Universe. This movie was supposed to be just a one-off movie for Wesley Snipes, the guy that played Blade.
But it was such a success that they made two more Blade movies, and then that kind of, the success of those kind of... snowballed into the funding that could be raised for spider-man and then the spider-man movies kind of raised the money for x-men and so on and so forth and before you know it we had iron man and the avengers and all the rest of the whole shebang there big guy
So yeah, this is the one that started it all. What we're going to try to do here, Big Dog, is go through all of it. What? All of it. The whole thing. The whole Marvel Cinematic Universe. What? Yeah. Wait, what? It's probably going to take us up until your 30s. Early 30s, maybe. Depending, I don't know. See, you're coughing too now. Yeah, I know. Because you got me sick, you dirty kid. How dare you.
What did you think of the movie, dude? You like it? It was pretty good. Yeah? It just... What? It's a little long. It's two hours long. It didn't tie up because there's no vampires in the Marvel Universe. There is, actually. What? There is. What? In about seven and a half years from now, we're going to get to a movie called Morbius. Morbius? Yeah, Morbius. It's the MCU's vampire. I can't even...
It's a whole iceberg that I can't even get into right now. He's kind of a Spider-Man villain, but he hates being a vampire. Him and Blade actually join forces and become... start a group called the Night Stalkers, which are geared towards eradicating vampires. Morbius is kind of... So how do you get this information? I'm just a big dork, dude. I know it all. Wait till Jeff gets in here.
He's down in the basement right now. I'll bring him right up here. He'll break out charts and graphs and have blackboards and things and all kinds of... One of those... Crazy evidence boards with the yarn going around. This guy goes to this guy and that guy. He can drop way more knowledge than I can. But the main thing is that...
Blade, the story of Blade actually ties into the MCU as we know it. And with Wolverine and Deadpool and Wesley Snipes reprising the role of Blade, even though he looked kind of weird in that movie. You saw Wolverine in Deadpool. Yes. And you saw Blade in that one. I don't recall seeing him, but I'm pretty sure he's in there. It was him, Elektra, and Gambit that were in that weird... You actually got to see the Tomb of La Magra.
which is where the big fight at the end of this Blade movie took place. That's where Electra Gambit and Blade were hanging out. I can't even try to break this down there's like various timelines and then at the beginning remember when Deadpool was like finding all the different Wolverines yeah the drunk one yeah there was a drunk one there was like a weird
Smoking one. Smoking one. Extra happy one that was way out of control. But that's like a whole thing. And by the time we get to that movie, maybe you'll be old enough to understand what the hell's going on. I don't know that I understand it. But somehow the MCU has created this multiverse of where, you know, Tobey Maguire can still be Spider-Man and so can Tom Holland. If you ask me, Tom Holland's a much better Spider-Man.
And at the same time, we can have the MCU interacting with the Sony MCU, which is what Blade is technically a part of. But there was supposed to be a Blade mini, well... There was a Blade miniseries. It wasn't very good. It came out in 2003, I think. Sticky Fingers from Onyx. It was a USA original. It was not very good. It's called The House of...
C'thon, I think, if I remember right. But, yeah. No, I know. I know. I know, man. It's a whole thing. So we're going to see that one, too? I don't know if I want to sit through that. To be honest with you, it doesn't tie into anything and it's not really part of anything. And it's also not very good. It's kind of like a... If I remember right, it went one season about...
seven episodes. It turned out to be a big soap opera where Blade's falling in love while still trying to battle the vampires. With who? I don't remember. Wow. Yeah, and it had nothing to do with the comic books at all, so let's not worry about that. You nerds in your memories. Dude, I remember every single thing. Then why can't you remember this one? Because it doesn't matter. If it mattered, I would remember it. All right, you clown boy.
Would you like to rejoin me? I think the next movie up. So we're trying to take these movies in the order that they were released. This was the very first. I believe the second would be Blade II. After that, I think we go into either Spider-Man or X-Men. Then we come back for Blade 3. I know. No, I know. I know. We got our work cut out for us here, Deacon. It's going to be an endeavor.
As they say. Bro, why can't they just pack a Blade, pack a Spider-Man, all released in the same package? It doesn't work that well. I mean, I got the Blade trilogy on a box set. So we got that going for us. But do you really want to sit through two more Blade movies right now? No. That's exactly right. So we're going to do Blade 2 next month. That one is way cooler. Yeah. We get into the blood pack and we've got like these crazy...
crackhead vampires and their faces open up kind of like Predator. You have terrible special effects noises. What are you talking about? That's what they do. Their tongues flap around. It's a whole thing. Blade actually has to help the vampires in that one. And you thought we saw the end of Whistler? He literally shot his head off. You thought we saw the end of Whistler? He literally shot his head off. I know, but if he had vampire blood in him... He had vampire blood in him? I don't know, bud.
We're going to have to wait until Blade 2 to see what's going on there. It's going to be a whole thing, dude. You want to join me for Blade 2 in a month? I think we're going to try and do this the last Friday of every month. The last Friday of every month? Yeah. Are you okay with that? Or maybe you should just stick it up your butt. It's Friday, though. Friday. I know, right before football practice.
Well, you and I will do it the last Thursday. Yeah. We'll do the thing with Dusty and Jeff on Friday. Anyway, Blade, yes or no? Thumbs up or thumbs down? Be honest. I'll be honest with you. The movie came out in 1999, and some of those special effects were a little wacky. Okay, I don't understand what happened with his mom. Okay, what don't you understand?
At first they said that the girl in Frost's bed is his mom. Correct. But then she's like getting all weird with him. That was a little freaky, dude. She was like, almost like making out with him there at the end when he's strapped in the tomb. Yeah. Yeah. That is nasty. And that is not how a mommy and her son interact, because that is freaky. But vampires, what are they up to?
Wait, is that cool for them? I don't know. It's freaky to me. Freaky to you. I like that about you. So basically what we're saying here, this was kind of like a halfway backstory to Blade. His mom was bit by a vampire while she was pregnant with Blade. His real name is Eric Brooks, by the way. And she supposedly had died during childbirth. But then we find out that she birthed...
and he was born a half-human, half-vampire, full-on daywalker, which is like a prophetic vampire. It's like a... A big deal. It's a big deal. It's like you get all the... Good things about a human and a vampire. And a vampire with none of the weaknesses. So that's a nasty customer right there. But then we find out the bad guy, Deacon Frost, was the one who actually bit... Blade's mom and has kept her in this weird party. It looked like a book.
It did kind of look like a book, right? She was like stuck in a bed. Well, I mean, it's not like she was his prisoner or anything. She was having parties and she was getting out and mingling and stuff. And really... Just because you're a vampire, it doesn't mean you turn into an immediate a-hole. So, she could have been, you know, okay. Okay, Will.
What? I mean, you could be a vampire and still not be an a-hole, is what I'm telling you. Okay. You gotta drink blood. That sucks. But you don't have to kill people. If your son... Is a vampire hunter and you're a vampire? Yeah. What do you think is going to come between them? Well, so you're saying I'm a vampire and you're a vampire hunter? Yes. Okay, I'm going to go. I'm going to head on out.
I'm going to take off. I'm going to see you later there, Dee Dee. And if some hot vampire chick is like, hey, we've got to get Deacon's blood so we can resurrect La Magra and, you know, awaken the blood god. I want to be like, no, I don't think we need to do that. We're doing okay here without Mamagra, and Deacon can go stay over there and hunt those vampires, and I'll be over here with my vampire crew, and I don't know.
Over there? Over here. That's where... Maybe I'll send you a Christmas card every now and then. With what? Like... One drop of blood. Hey, sorry I'm a vampire. Merry Christmas. Here's some Roblox and some Fortnite V-Bucks. And sorry I'm a vampire. Don't worry about me. There's no need to come after me on Christmas. Merry Christmas. Your dad, the vampire. That's stupid, man. Make it sound like... But...
Did you catch the big flaw there at the end of the movie? What flaw? Okay, a little bit of a plot hole here. The whole point, like the whole ritual of resurrecting La Magra... As it was explained, remember Pearl? Yeah. She's like the bookkeeper of the vampires. Yeah. The whole thing was that it takes the blood of the 12, so you had to have all 12 of the head vampires, and then you had to have the blood of the Daywalker, which was Blade.
And then you had to have one guy in the middle that would become the living embodiment of La Magra. That was going to be Deacon Frost. Okay, that all makes sense. I'm with you so far. But when... Deacon Frost goons round up the other 12 head vampires, and they spread them out around the tomb of Lamagra. Danica, who we have not seen the end of, by the way. Yeah, we did. No, she's going to come back in a later movie. But that's a whole other thing. What?
We'll get to that in Blade 3. She freaks out and kills one of the 12. She sticks Blade's sword in him and then kicks him across the room. And you see him do that skeleton evaporation thing. Yeah. Okay. Party's over, dude. We don't have the 12 anymore. We only have 11. We can't do the ritual. But then, once the ritual actually starts...
The dude that got kicked into the evaporating skeleton is magically back alive and he gets the blood on his forehead and starts spazzing out. It happened, man. It happened. Danica's dead. Yes, she's dead. Well, no. You can't just say someone's dead and then bring her back. three movies later and hope someone forgot. It's very easy to do that, actually. Yeah, you just bring back the same actor. Uh, they use a different actress, I believe. Ugh. Yeah, in, uh... Why can't we just have, like...
Same crew? Well, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know why we can't have the same crew, but it's cool. I don't even know where Danica came from. She's kind of like... She's like a side gang. She is. She's one of Deacon Frost's little lackeys. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. She's a nasty customer. I'll tell you that. I really enjoy... I like Quinn. Quinn was my favorite. Quinn the...
The friend who does all the work. Yes. And then gets his hand chopped off. Several times. Several times throughout the movie. And then in a joke. Gets his face ground into a subway car. No, that's nasty. But he kept his sense of humor about the whole thing. I like that about him. Uh, no. No? I don't like that. No. Oh, well, excuse you then, sir. All right. Well, I guess that's, uh, you got anything you want to add about Blade?
The first movie? Sweet soundtrack, I thought. Very 1999. Well, yeah, because if they put, like, 2023... Soundtrack will be like, scabity, scabity, honk to honk. Never do that again. Never, ever do that again. I'm going to do it again. I'm going to cut you. I'm going to kill your microphone.
Try me. Okay, I'll just use the other one. Oh, get out of here. Just use the other one. I like the soundtrack. It's very techno-ravy, EDM, before there was EDM kind of a thing going on. Are you excited for Blade 2? It's only an hour and a half. I should also mention that Blade, the Blade that we just watched, was the full two hours. You already said that? That's very long for a superhero movie.
What do you expect it to be? I think Avengers was like two and a half hours, but that's a fast-moving two and a half hours. You know what I mean? We got a lot of action, a lot of Thor flying around and stuff like that. Blade, we get a lot of... sword throws sword throws we get a lot of uh and getting cut off by a self-automatic deacon frost applying sunscreen and dragging other vampires off to the beach
So they can pull his fangs out for no apparent reason? Well, you've got to make an example out of him. That was the old leader of the vampire clans. Deacon's got to show the rest of the clans that he's the new leader by kind of... Getting a little savage. Assassination? Yeah, but making an example out of them. It's like a power play. Was that one of the 12? Apparently not.
apparently that was not necessary. Well, yeah, because they want you to think, they want you to show, they want to show something at the beginning of the movie and then hope you forgot about it. Well, that wasn't at the beginning. That was like... I mean, that's a valid question that you bring up, though, because Udo Kier, who played the head of the vampire clans, he gets killed. You would think he would be a pertinent part to that Lamagra ritual.
Yeah. Okay, that's a valid question, sir. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know anything about vampire clans in the Blade universe. Mm-hmm. So there's that. You're a nerd. Says you. Says your face. Says your butt. Says your mom. I'm going to tell her you said that. Don't tell her. I'm going to tell her you said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to tell her. You got anything else you want to add about Blade, buddy? Uh...
No? I feel like it gave me that The Lost Boys vibe. I get that. Sure. There just wasn't a lot of flying around. Well, those vampires were a lot cooler. Like, I want to be one of the Lost Boys. The vampires in Blade were basically there just to get killed by Blade. There's a lot of partying. Vampires party a lot, which is cool. I don't like how Blade just... He wants to kill... He's a vampire hunter. Correct. You get me. But, like, once you show up...
You can't just like slice a few vampires and then let them all leave. Okay, so I'm assuming you're referring to the opening rave massacre thing. Well, okay. I'm glad you brought that up too because that's kind of a thing that happens in movies a lot. You get like a big gang fight.
You get like a big shootout or a big action sequence where it's like one dude taking on a whole army of other guys. And what you'll notice is the one guy that's kicking everybody's butt is like killing three or four dudes. But in the background, you just see people running back and forth behind you. That's just how movies are made. I know. It doesn't make any sense. But that's how they've been made since the dawn of time.
And it's very exciting because you're thinking this one guy is kicking the hell out of probably 125 vampires. But then, really, it's just a lot of running back and forth. By the way, he's one dude. If all of the vampires in that weird meat rave situation just jumped on him, he couldn't do anything. I mean, speaking of that, why in a meat storage place? Because it's got blood fountains, man. Yeah.
But still. That's another good question. Who the hell routed the blood into the sprinkler system? And what's going to happen if a fire breaks out? We're going to spray blood on it? That's not going to put a fire out. You need water for that, DeeDee. Come on, man. Come on. Get your vampire rave together. What are you even doing? Any other thoughts other than, you know, bad raves?
Any other thoughts? So what did we learn from that situation? What situation? If you're out partying and you meet an attractive young lady and she says, hey, we're going to go to another party and she leads you to a meat locker. That's where you're going to bid her a fond adieu, correct? You're going to say, oh, I had a great time with you tonight, young lady. Here's my phone number. Give me a call sometime. No. But I will not be partying with you in the weird meat locker butcher shop.
No way. You're thinking about going with her, aren't you? No, I just... That kid is... He looked so scared. Oh, yeah! I would be too. If I go to a party and all of a sudden blood is raining down from the ceiling and here comes a crazy guy in a trench coat and he's slicing and dicing and people are evaporating all around me, I would be scared. I would probably take a poop in my pants. Be honest with you. Oh, God. So would you. Don't lie. No. All right, man. Any other thoughts on Blade?
Nope. Any questions about how he fits into the MCU? There's also a secondary storyline where he teams up with Ghost Rider, Wolverine, Doctor Strange... and I think Iron Man for a minute to form another group called the Midnight Suns. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. I'll geek right out on you. Okay, so we're watching that one, too? There's no Midnight Suns movie.
But there is a Moon Knight TV show. Oh. So we're going to watch that too? Eventually. Yeah, I would like to. Come on. This is supposed to be 20 minutes, not 20 hours. We're at 24 minutes right now. 24! 24 minutes! Alright. Thank you very much, inmates, for joining us. Hope you enjoyed this installment of Boys in the Basement slash Kids in the Attic.
Into the basement verse. We will be joining you again very soon with Blade 2. Hope you're not a nerd like my dad. Oh, you are a nerd. If you're listening to this, you're probably a bigger nerd than I am. But not bigger than Jeff. Jeff is the... Jeff is the full nerd. Says you, you're a nerd about Warhammer. I am, and other things, but Jeff is the Marvel nerd. Everybody's a nerd about something, man. Like you and your...
Whatever. Exactly. Whatever you're nerding out over. Thank you again for joining us. We'll see you soon with Blade 2.