We welcome to you to the Officials Titans podcast, better known as the OTP Amy Wells Welcome, How are you? My name is Mike Keith. Our third for today's podcast is the three time Pro bowler Brett Kerr, Titans punter. Honored to be here. When you hear three time pro bowler, considering you did not go to your first Pro Bowl until you were almost thirty two, does it actually mean more?
I think it does. You know, for it to take ten years and you know, obviously put together some really good seasons that probably had the resume to go just came up short. You kind of understand how hard it is what put you over the top to go from being viewed as a good punter, a really good punter, to being what is now viewed as the premier punter
in the AFC. UM. Honestly, when I when I decided to give up worrying about stats, UM, you know, I had a conversation with Craig Hendrick, and you know he told me, He's like, you can play in this league as long as you want, UM, if you just go out there and have the mindset each game that you
just need to do what you need to do. Each game to be your best so not really get get caught up in you know, if if I'm on the forty five yard line and it's like, man, I, you know, I need to try to squeak out a fifty yard punt here to net this, to average this and all that kind of stuff, and just go out there and really just hit your best punt in each situation. The stats are going to take care of themselves. And you know, Coach Rabel's happy, Coach Ackerman's happy with how I'm with
how I'm punting it. Um. You know, then I'll be able to play here as long as I want. So once when I kind of change my mindset um to just take in a game by game, punt by punt and trying to execute each punt the best that I can, honestly, I just I just you know, I stopped looking at stats, really didn't care about stats, And the next thing, you know, I'm I'm going to a Pro Bowl. So and I think once you get one, you obviously have the confidence to you know, to go out there and do it again.
And you know, it really worked. That formula work for me in twenty seventeen to just you know, not even look at stats, not even worry about it and just go out there and have fun and do my job. And so I've been doing that and just kind of keep rattling these things off. I know you're obviously not pursuing those stats for the accolades, But as far as accolades go, where does the Pro Bowl length? Like? Is
that the dream? Is that what you're trying to achieve is the Pro Bowl or their new goals that you try to reach after that? Yeah, I think, you know, All Pro is probably the one you want the most because that means you're, you know, you're considered the best punter in the league that year. Pro Bowl, you know, you're obviously viewed as the best in the AFC, and
obviously the NFC has somebody. But I think Pro Bowl is probably my goal just from a standpoint of being able to do it with my family, you know, with my wife and three kids, and you know, to be able to do three in a row in Orlando. Uh, It's it's pretty fun. The NFL does a great job all week making it a very family friendly event and uh, you know, so my son to come down and each year you could tell he kind of understands you know, what to do, what not to do, and uh, he
has a blast with me. I take him everywhere on the bus. Team Bush practices all that kind of stuff. So, um, you know, on the Disney Day, the Universal Studio Day is a lot of fun. So that's probably, you know, a really cool accomplishment just where I could celebrate it with my family. Um, but you know, all pro is probably the big daddy and the one that you want
the most. We've talked about the Pro Bowl a lot on the OTP, just about what's good about it, what's bad about it, and when we talk about it being in Orlando, the Kern family is exactly what's in my brain as the perfect target person for the Pro Bowl. You guys, bring your whole family down. The kids are there, They're able to run around, They're able to experience kind of the Orlando theme park magic of it all. Obviously you're able to be celebrated and recognized for what you do.
If the Pro Bowl were in a different city, which obviously there's a talk all the time, do you think it would have the same effect. Given how cool it's been for your family to be able to have the full experience yeah. I mean it's funny because you know, at the end of the Pro Bowl they shoot us out an email with the survey on it, and one of the questions on the survey was if the Pro Bowl was an Orlando, where what other cities could you rank?
I think it gave us like Dallas, New Orleans, Vegas, Hawaii, and I think there's one more on there. I can't remember where, but just rank from one to five, you know, one being the one that you want to go to the most if you couldn't go to Orlando. And I was just thinking in my head, I was like, man, you know, I absolutely love Orlando, just just from a family perspective and be able to hang out at Disney and Universal Studios and just you know, when you're down there,
you kind of feel the uh the magical. I don't you know what you people talk about all the time that that Disney. I don't even know what it is something about it, but yeah, and uh, you know, you know, Darrell I was talking to Drew when we were down there about how awesome Hawaii was, um, very laid back, chill. So I think if if I had to choose, i'd probably I think going to Hawaii would be would be pretty cool because I'd probably try to incorporate golf when
you get out there. So stunning. Yeah, well, I heard a lot of guys stay. They go out there for the week and then they stay another week and just kind of experience. Those are the guys with that kids though all some with kids. They just they take the hit with the school. All right, So can we do the Brett current career review very quickly? Oh boy, okay, career numbers. Let's not talk about rushing yards now. Hang on forty six yards per punt gross. That's how far
you hit it, right, forty point four net. That's after touchbacks and returns are extrapolated, which is crazy because when I first got in the league in Denver and O eight, not one guy had averaged over forty net in a season. Well, and what's interesting about that too, is when I started playing football and got involved in football and following football, if you averaged forty yards per punt grows right, you
were a good punter. If you averaged forty two or forty three, you were an All American, an all pro whatever. I mean. Gray guy is in the Hall of Fame, and I think his career averages forty three yards per punt. He might I think he might be a forty one forty one thirty five guy. Yeah, you averaged forty seven yards per punt this year. You averaged forty six yards per punt for your career. That's over nine hundred and
twelve regular season punts. How many of the nine hundred twelve regular season punts can you probably remember, like, right off the top of your head, less than ten out of nine hundred and twelve. I probably can remember eight hundred. Can you really? Wow? Does your mind work that way? Or okay, it does? I think. I think just because I'm a very detailed person. Um. You know, we've talked about this before, you know, other stuff that we've done. Um, you know at the end of the year. Uh. It's funny.
The guys kind of joke around with me that I put everything on an Excel spreadsheet. So whether it's you know, my wife and I buying Christmas presents for the kids, I have it all on Excel spreadsheet. Oh yeah, it's just away from my brain to organize, you know, how things are going. So you don't have one of those minds like um trying to think of the actress, who's name, who's on taxi? Who can remember specific days thirty years ago,
You're not um remembers it for him. If I log, if I log every punt, and you know, I go over direction distanced hang time, you know, I I have a plus minus chart its first directional kicking and all that kind of stuff. And so if I have it labeled and I you know, it's five punts against Buffalo in twenty and twelve, I can go back and I'm like, okay, yeah,
I remember those five like it helps trigger what happened. So, you know, at the end of the year, I chart everything, and then I like to go through and see, okay, hey, we were on the right hash punting right, you know, ninety percent of the time it was outside the numbers. Okay, but when we were on the left HASH and we were punting right across the field, it was only fifty percent. Yeah. So I try to go through figure out whether it's going left, I left from the left, half left, going
across the field, looking at the inside the twenties. As far as hitting that end over end ball, you know, I like to look at you know, all right, I chart from Hey, it was a snap from the forty, it took a bounce at the five, it either checked up, went in the end zone, all that kind of stuff. So I, you know, I log everything and it helps me, you know, for next year when I come in and let's say we open up at Let's say we open
up at Baltimore. So then I can go through Mike Cell and I look at Okay, we've played I've played there personally twice in my career. I have a nine punt game and the playoff game, and then I look through and I'll go through and watch that film, and then I'll understand, okay, hey, this is what the wind was doing both these days. You know, I noticed that I was punting to their bench the whole time. So
then when I go out for practice, I'll understand. Looking at the weather for the week, I'll understand, Okay, hey, you know, I'll talk to coach Ackerman and say, hey, look, you know the past two times we played there, I was punting to their bench. So when we go out there, I'll simulate, Okay, this is gonna be their bench, And in practice, I'll just simulate, hey, you know, if I had fifteen punts again in Baltimore fourteen even were going left.
So I'm gonna work on going left this week. So that's what helps me, you know, with all the stuff that I log as far as on the Excel spreadsheet, it helps me go back when I'm preparing for this coming year where I've played, Like you know Jacksonville, I might you're an analytics guy. Yeah, if you were in baseball, you would be very much considered on the cutting edge of the analytics thing. The thing I was thinking of with Mary Lou Henner, the actress from Taxi. She has
an autobiographical memory. Oh she can remember like forty years ago. That's why I was wondering if you were one of those people she can remember specific days. I can't either. I do what you do right. I have everything on Church like I have your whole career right here in front of me. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. I know that you've had three hundred and fifty five punts down inside the twenty and fifty four touchbacks in your career and
those and I mean I church your games too. So I do the same thing right, but in a in a different way. I am stalking you on my own computer. That's well. I mean, if there's somebody to stalk me
the voice of the time, that's that's my job. Now, you wanted to ask something, Aby will Well, I am intrigued by the mathematics of your position, specifically, of all the positions on a football field on Sunday, is the punch or the most mathematic of them all, just because there's so many angles and percentages and I don't I'm not a math person, so right, I'm intrigued by it.
There's probably some guys that, you know, I know, there's some guys in the league that go out there, they catch it and punt it and is what it is, and they you know, won't watch game film or anything along those lines. I think it just depends on kind of who you are. I know Thomas Morstead in New Orleans,
he's very analytical. He I mean, he's he's a guy that prescribes or subscribes to U Pro Football Focus because he doesn't have an agent, so he uses Pro Football Focus and all the analytical data for that to help
him negotiate. So wow. I think there's just probably different types of guys all across the league that, um, you know, some guys just go out there and boot It and other guys like myself and Thomas are you know, pretty analytical to understand, you know, I mean you've been in the league for twelve years, he's been in the league for eleven. Um, you know you obviously have your tendencies
over those over those years. So um, you know, these returners are so good nowadays that you know, there's there's some guys that will play me. I know, I know in Houston and Mike you might have seen this on the broadcast, but from up in the booth, but the guy was playing me five to six yards from the sideline and not just playing me straight down the middle of the field like he knew. Okay, hey he's indoors, he's on the right hash, he's gonna he's gonna punt
it right. So you know, when you're back there and you're seeing that, you're thinking, man, you know, I gotta come up with something to offset that. And that's why you start coming up with, you know, the different types of punts, with the boomerang punt, missile punt. I mean, there's tons of things you can come up with, um, whether you're figuring out on your own or you're watching
other guys try to do it. So, um, you know, I guess I'm just definitely one of the more you know, analytical guys that, um, this is how I operate and try to get better every year. All right, let's do the more of this is your life punter, Brett Kern, Are you ready for more? Yes? Okay, where's this gonna go? Well, I mean we'll see it's fine. So at this point in your career, you have kicked off five times, four times with the Titans. You had a free kick against
Cleveland in twenty fourteen, which was last time. You've had five punts blocked total, remember all of them the last year. The last one was against the Jets in twenty eighteen. Kevin Pierre Lewis is the is the guy who blocked it. I don't care who blocks it. I just I understand. But we're reviewing your career. Okay, four of your punts have been returned for touchdowns, three with Tennessee Travis Benjamin in twenty fifteen at Cleveland. Yep, I got pancaked on.
It will fuller bring up some bad memories. Well, wait a minute, we're going through all of it. I mean, you're the three time pro bowler. We're going through all of Okay, ye Will Fuller at Houston in twenty sixteen, seventeen no sixteen, yep, ye Jachem Grant at Miami that actually weeks back to back weeks. That's exactly right, but hasn't happened since then, right, which is really good. You have two career special teams tackles for which you have
been credited. I think one was against even Hester. Yeah. Do you claim more than two or do you think two is actually? And I think was it against Philly? Did they give me a tackle there? I could have been. I just kind of stood there and got ran for yourself out this this year, you moved into new territory with passing two of three passing for thirty nine yards. Yeah.
And the best ball is incomplete one. Yeah. He completed a twelve yard pass to Kevin Byard for a first down against the LA Chargers, missed on a pass against Houston on a deep ball. Yep, it was a good throw. Yeah, I felt good. Yeah, Yeah, I mean you look good throwing the ball. And then the twenty eight yard passed to a Mony Hooker in the AFC Championship game. Yeah, I mean you are confident throwing the football. You look athletic throwing the football. Yes, throwing, not running. Okay, now
to the running part. You had a twenty one yard run on a fake punt against Denver. There was that it really wasn't a fake punt. No, it's a bad snap. And yeah, it was a snap that kind of brought me to the right and the guy that was coming off the edge on the right side was I think he did it up and under. And I mean when I caught that thing and I put it out there, all I saw was him. So I just showed some moves. Four other rushes in your career, totaling no yards, you
have only carried. Of those five carries, only one has been intentionally planned. Correct, Okay, because I dropped two snaps. Okay, So he has four carries where things have happened and he's had to run the ball. One carry planned against Tampa this year on the fake field goal, still getting adjusted from it. Okay. So you go around left end and it looked it's like you're gonna have a chance to make the first down and make it to the sidelines,
and then yeah, it's really not good. Something goes wrong. How bad was that? Can we can talk about it now. I mean, you saw how often we've practiced it in practice, and it looked great. We had discussed it beforehand because I had asked you had you ever carried intentionally. I knew at some point it was coming because it looked really really great in practice always does well, but it looked great when you first went around the end. Yeah. Well, I mean I think that the what I can't remember
the linebacker for for Tampa, but he's a KI from LA. Yeah, he's a study. He was supposed to cover Mike Coal go into the opposite flat, and I think, um, you know, I just shot up got out, and I think he realized he just made a football play. Like, if I'm going to the left and the other guy's going the right, there's no way he's gonna stop and throw that ball. Now.
Could we have maybe, I don't know. It would have been a pretty crazy call, but he just he just decided to make a football play and go after the ball. And so honestly, that was the last thing I was expecting when I came around, because Taylor did a great job of forcing this guy to the outside, and I tried to follow him as long as possible, and then I'm either going to cut outside of him and really just get the first down or I cut inside and
it's wide open and it's a touchdown. And so when I cut inside and I looked at the right and I saw that guy Baryln, I thought this is this isn't gonna hurt. So, you know, I'm not used to getting hit like that. So and he pretty much clotheslined me. And yeah, thankfully the refs blew the whistle dead because I fumbled it. And uh, that's that. Was there a moment that you thought, I don't want to do this,
like I don't want to be in this. Yeah, I literally thought this is the last thing Tampa was gonna expect this this play. We've been practicing this play over and over. It's not like, um, you know, hey, we threw this fake in on Saturday without practicing it. I mean, the one that we ran against Kansas City, we'd practice for a while. The one you know we ran against LA we'd practiced for a while. So when you start doing that, I'm not used to throwing the ball at
running the ball. So the more reps I get in practice, the more comfortable I feel when I go out to the game. So h but I mean I felt if you were to ask me, out of all the fakes that we ran, I would have said the Tampa one was the one I'd be most confident. And so it just like I said, that guy made a great football play, and Devin White, Devin White and um, you know, probably had a good laugh out of light me up. So oh man, you saw it real very close. I saw
it very closely. And my not favorite part, because you never want to see someone get hit like that, is the reaction from the bench, which genuine concern for your well being because I probably a lot of guys probably didn't think that was gonna happen either. I think Bow Brinkley gave you an actual bear hug. He probably did well. Bow was worried about. Yeah, we exchanged a lot of bear hugs on the sideline. It's very nice. He's like my little brother, so we've been together for a long
time and blessed to have him as my long snapper. Yeah, I thought it was working when I saw it. When I saw you break went after having seen that, I mean, I know everybody after the fact that, oh, how could you call that and you know about Vybell, and there was a lot of consternation about it at that point. But I mean it really looked like and I watched it again three or four times, it looked like it was there. Yeah. The worst part is I you know, I usually tell me my what throughout the week when
we're having a fake, especially for home games. Uh, and I forgot to tell her about that one. And uh so imagine her reaction when she sees me running and that's right in front of where she sits, I mean literally in front of the family section. Yeah, it's where you ran that play. Yeah, I mean she couldn't get any closer to my two kids, you know, we're with her. Yeah, two out of the the three came to the game. And how ol does Bryce Now's okay, so he really knows
all this? Oh he oh he does. And so when he sees Dad get lit up like that, what what does he say to you after the game? I think it was I'm trying to remember. I think it was a slight chuckle and then a hug, and he said, are you okay? Yeah, good buddy. Your children impressed with you and what you do. They are, Yeah, they understand it. And they like that dad is a Titan and that dad's a pro Bowl. They think this is cool. Well that's really nice. Yeah, that's a I mean, that's that's
gonna change. But I'll tell you as they get older, it's been a huge blessing just to um, to have our kids younger. You know, when when my wife and i've been married for you know, we're celebrating twelve years and got married before my rookie year, and um, you know, to start our family early. Uh, now that I've been able to play this long for all three of them. Really, my three year old you know, and understands it too. I mean we're watching the Super Bowl and she was saying,
go Titans, I don't like the Chiefs, Go Titans. I don't like this show. She understands her and I have that in common. Yeah, she understands who to root for, and obviously Bryce understands it completely. In My seven year old is just she understands it, and you know, she, uh, she was pretty concerned. After She's a lot like my wife. She's got a really good heart, loves to to serve and kind of make people happy, and so she was
she was really concerned. You know, in the parking lot after the game, and yeah it was I mean I laugh about it now obviously, but it wasn't fun at the time. What a blessing that your kids get to enjoy this and experience this and this one. I mean that that is so exciting. And I mean your ride is really incredible because you are the only Titan that really spans both generations of Titans fans and what I
mean by that. And Keith Bullock pointed this out to Amy and Me on the Tuesday night radio show that We do. He said, Brett Current is my last teammate who who was on the team. And I got to thinking about it. I mean, you game in October of two thousand and nine after departing Denver, and so some of the early Titans were winding down, right. That fan base that was the first generation getting to experience it
was still there. And now as we've fully moved into the second generation, Brett Kern has unavailability and an opportunity
to sort of see both. It's a unique perspective. Yeah, I think, um, you know, really it's been Craig Hendrick and I and Craig was a huge blessing when I got cut because I was off to a good start in that oh nine season, you know, six games in we were six and oh in Denver, and you know, to get that that call up to coach McDaniel's office to say that they're going in a different direction was it was a big shock and surprise. So to be able to come here with my confidence kind of rattled
after a pretty good start. You know, Craig was on IR because I think you towards calf, so he was in here every day getting treatment and just the conversations that we had, um, you know, definitely really really helped out. And I'd probably say, you know, when my career is done, whenever that is, you know, I don't know. Um, you know, probably my my biggest accomplishment, I would say up to this point is that I've I've played here in one city through five coaches and three GMS. That's, um, that's
pretty hard to do. And I think that's probably to be able to go through each coaching change, to go through all all five of those changes and kind of different. You know, how does this coach operate? What are his expectations? What does he think of me? What? You know, what does he expect? Of me. Um to go through that. Um, it's some of the years it was a grind trying to figure that out. So when you down the punt at the one yard line in the New England game, yeah,
to put it away. Do you get a look at Josh McDaniels on the New England sideline? No, not at all. I've actually, honestly, you know, we've we've we've chatted every time we've played. UM, even when they came here to practice last year. Um, you know, he came up to me and apologize, and I said, did he really? Yeah? I said, I said, you don't have to apologize. Like, what I believe with my faith is that God, you know,
opens doors and closes doors. And he shut the door in Denver, and he opened one up here in Tennessee. And to be able to raise my family here in Nashville, to be a part of the Middle Tennessee community. Um. You know, when you get cut, you might think this is the end of the world, like what's going on? But really God just had something better for for my family. Nine. What does he apologize about how he handled it or the decision that he made that he made a rash?
I I don't know, like I don't, I don't know. You know, I know he had full control of the roster. So when I got cut, Um, I was walking out to my car and I had a big trash bag and the GM was walking in and he said, where are you going? I said, I just got cut. He had no idea, So, you know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't and it honestly, it doesn't really he didn't have to apologize. You know. It's just as pro football, as coach freewill pro football. That's just a
part of the business. You make teams, you get cut from teams, you signed new contracts, you retire. I mean, it's all It's all just part of the game. So I think for me it was a big wake up call knowing that, hey, I was playing pretty good and I still got cut. So I need to like this. This is a start of me not just trying to survive in the league. This is a start of me like, I'm going to try to do my best and thrive and see how long, see how long I can play.
For having been a part of this Titans organization for so long, obviously you've seen a lot of things you've seen a lot of changes. As you referenced earlier, the fan base tends to see things kind of cyclical. So, oh my gosh, this year reminds me of the ninety nine year. This year reminds me of two thousand and eight. This from Have you seen some of those similarities and throughout seasons like, oh, this kind of feels like something or is that not necessarily real? Is that more of
a fan perceived. Yeah, I think it's probably more fan just because you know, with with NFL, there's always gonna be roster turnover, it's one hundred percent. You're never like you know, and when we start the year in twenty twenty, we're not going to have the exact same team as what we had this past year. So you kind of just you can kind of get lost in that, I
guess a little bit. Um just just from the standpoint of you know, your you might have a really good buddy, a good friend that you've been teammates with, and then all of a sudden they go to another team, and it's just there's so much change and so much turnover that you sometimes you forget what certain seasons were like as a player. But um, you know this year was
was obviously something really really special. I will say that the team that we had in this locker room was probably the closest bonded team that I've ever been a part of, um, you know, in my career in the NFL. It was just a tight knit group that Yeah, I
don't even know how to describe it. I mean, you you walk into the locker room and guys from you know, we're our lockers are all set up by position, but you would have guys from all different kinds of positions going over to other guys lockers, talking and having conversation, all that kind of stuff. Um, just just a bond that we had as a team, and I think we knew we had something really special, and uh, it was just a fun It was a fun ride. You are
not treated like a specialist. You are not treated by your teammates like a kicker. Guys like Jarell Casey very much think Brett Kerrn is an important part of the football team. You're treated that way. Is that what you're most proud of? For sure? Yeah? I think you know what it's all said and done. You know, you're on the field stuff, your accomplishments, that's that's great. I mean, records are made to be broken, um, which is totally fine with me. That's um. That's how I've made a
living by what you do on the field. But I think off the field, the impact that you have with your teammates. You know, what do they remember, you know, Brett kerrn As, Like, yeah he was he was a great punter. That's that's great. But what kind of guy
was he in the locker room? Um? You know. So I just want to be I just want to be remembered as a as a great guy in the locker room, a family man, a man of faith that loves Jesus and um you know that, Uh you could always come to my locker and have a conversation about whatever you wanted to talk about. So um, and I wanted to
be a great teammate, a guy that encourages guys. Um. You know, I'm never I'm never going to be the guy that's gonna call out somebody, um, you know, for for making a mistake or something like that, because you know, I'm not a dB. I'm not athletic enough. I don't you know, I just can't do it. So I'm not going to criticize somebody for something that I can't do. Um.
So it's just kind of how I work. And I feel like, you know, if you if you're an encouraging guy and you know, kind of a blessing to other people, Um, it'll it'll pay off. So um, you know that's that's really important to me. And I think, you know, it's funny a lot of when I first got here, probably the first six or seven years, and it still happens,
except it's not just kind of transition. When I first got here, I was thought I was an equipment manager, so I actually got to I got to know how um Joey and Matten Hoss, how they kind of operate back there where they keep all the stuff. Just because guys, the guys they thought I was an equipment manager, so they would ask me for stuff and I would go get it for him, like who ask you for stuff?
Just some of the rookies when they would come in, you know in April, May, June, they would Yeah, they would walk up to you and say, Kendall Wright asked me three times for get your pair of shorts? Yeah. Yeah, So and now it's kind of transitioned to you like a coach, are you still equipment man? No? But but the truth is, I mean maybe that happened early on. But and I go back to what I just ask you about being respected. I mean, you are very much seen as a part of the football team and a
part of the fabric. And you know, an important weapon. I mean, when you talk about weapons that this team has, having a punter who is a weapon is a big deal. Yeah. I mean when you when you rely on fuel position, um, you know in the defense that we have have, Yeah, I mean it's I love it. I love being able to be a part of of helping the defense out
with field position. And you know, coach Fray Bowl and coach Uckerman, I think it was in April or May, they went through like a statistical percentage, like, hey, if a team starts on the ten, this is the percentage that they have to make it to midfield. This is a percentage that they have to get a field goal, This is a percentage that they have to score a touchdown.
So they started from the ten and then they started, you know, from the twenty five if it was a touchback or you know, hey, if we were backed up and they started at midfield, this is the percentage of them scoring a touchdown or a field goal. So they went through all these different scenarios and you really understand, like, hey, look, if I can, if I can control help control field position as far as trying to pin teams deep as
far as possible. You know, the defense that we have, like the percentages are going to work out to our favor. So you know, I've learned. I've tried to get it as close as possible as I can to the goal line. I've tried that in some years, and you know, your
touchback percentage gets a little higher. And this year have kind of more or less said, hey, let's aim between the ten and the five, and um, you know, if you hit one at the eleven or the twelve, like, you still gain you know, if it was a touchback, you still gain almost the first down. So um, you know, there's just kind of understanding where you can pick and choose your spots to to to really kind of put
them deep. We've referenced faith, You've referenced faith in this and your faith, and then in our conversation we've talked about good plays and bad plays, and good things and bad things being cut, losing a friend like Rob baronas I mean, you've you've seen so much. A football career is really sort of a metaphor for an entire life if you're a man of faith, isn't it. Yeah? For sure, because you because you you see it all and having
that faith. I mean football players that have faith, Um, you see a difference in the way they're able to handle things. Yeah, yeah, I think you know, Um, you know the day that you know, I found out two hours before we played the Bengals that Rob passed away, and that was you know, that was probably that was probably one game I actually don't really remember, honestly. I just remember slamming my helmet on the sidelines and you know, busting it up because I was just so so frustrated.
But you know, God doesn't, you know, he doesn't promise us that life's gonna be great every day. You know, like you're gonna have your ups, you're gonna have your downs. Um, but He's always consistent and always constant and so understanding that that he's always the rock, the pillar in my life. Um. You know, bad times, bad times, you know, aren't gonna
shake me, you know, just because that that is life. Um, it's not promised that life's gonna be great every day, so, um, you know, when you have your ups and your downs, it's just, um, understand that there's a one focal point in my life that you know, I can always trust on. And uh, you know, God is somebody I can always trust in every day and his word and uh you
know my wife is darn right up there. So um, you know, it's it's understanding that he already knows what's going to happen in my life, and he already knows, you know, how long I'm gonna play. He already, I mean, he's all knowing, so he knows all this stuff, and you trust all of yep. But now he's a pro bowler three times three times, I mean. And and Titans fans, I mean, you're you're not mistaken for the equipment guy
in the eyes of Titans fans. That's pretty good at it. Though, you must say, well something, that's a good group of guys to hang out with. That's a good group of people, and they they have a lot of know how and they make this building run a lot more than what people know. I'm sure other teams have great equipment guys, but there's nobody that has better equipment, folks than the Titans do because they they make the between them and the operations people we have, they make this thing run.
And um, it's great that you have such respect for them in that way in the job that they do in the importance. Yeah, I mean you need to size ten and a half in vapors. I know exactly where to get them. Yeah, I mean there's a lot of people around this building that I mean, you know, without them, this this operation doesn't doesn't move the way that it moves.
And uh, you know, from its with it's equipment guys that clean up after us, to to to the janitors that come in uh and clean up you know, the showers and um, you know, the people that are making us food every day. I mean, there's so many people you can go on and on throughout this whole building of people that put their sweat into making this place the best that they can make it and allowing us to go out there and not having to worry about some of the little things and they just they're great
at it. And it's um, you know, it's always nice to be able to talk to some of them, have conversations with them understanding their lives, what they're going through, and um, it's just uh, it's got a lot of great people around this build. And he's a real dude, Brett Kurn try to be yep, well this is your life, Brett Kern on the OTP. I think it turned out pretty well. Thank you for football's football is just a side job. And you know, now the golf season it started,
so so he's leaving, so he's ending it. He's actually getting up out of the chair right now. I mean we've had enough rain in February to um, you know, Noah might his arc might float. That's true, save us all. That's true. You're a good man, And thank you for taking time to share all of your thoughts and memories and stories. And yeah, it's fun. It's fun to kind
of go back the memory bank. And you know it's always good to remember, you know, from from high school when I first started, you know, go from soccer to football and not even sure I wanted to make the change, and you know, to college. Didn't get in by to the combine. You know, I got one work out with the Cleveland Browns and we had to scrape off snow
off the field. And Toledo and to my wife. We went to a snow or a golf dome at nine o'clock at night when it closed, and she would come and help shag footballs and had no heating in it, so it was, you know, thirty degrees in they are trying to kick football to get ready for any type of workout or whatnot. And it's just it's just, um, it's crazy. How you know. Now I'm sitting out with you guys and two of your career and and uh, it's just just a huge bussing. Keep going, Brett Kern.
I'm gonna try love for Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith thanking Brett Kern. And you've been listening to the OTP