The OTP: Pre-Draft Stories With Coach Mac

please just continue that. And of course a man who is the spokesperson for Farm Bureau Health Plans himself, coach Dave Magetnis. How are you hi, guys. It's so good to see you. You know what I said earlier, I feel like a puppy when every somebody comes in the house. I'm so happy to see you guys. You know how you how your dog's always so happy to see you, Like you've been gone forever and you've been gone for ten minutes. I miss you, guys. This is great seeing

everybody all right. So we are in the hours. We are literally down two hours before the NFL Draft on Monday. Titans head coach Mike Rabel, Titans general manager John Robinson spoke to the media, Jim, what what if anything jumped out to you? Well, he had a dog barking through the conference calling coach Mike was referring to a little bit earlier. He didn't give up too much. Uh, you know, he said that, you know, as usual, he's open for

business as far as the trade goes. You know, potentially didn't necessarily bother him if the team had to move by the first round, as long as it could get more picks. You know. The Clowney question came up, David and Clowney obviously has been a top of the conversation around the NFL, and the Titans have been linked to him since John Robinson expressed an interest in him a couple of weeks to go and said what the team does in the draft certainly could impact what happens with Clowney.

They may circle back to him before the draft or after the draft, so we'll have to see what happens here. But didn't reveal much. I mean, he knows how to play this game and talk through some of the issues that the team and teams across the league could be dealing with. The different draft this year obviously a virtual draft opposed to know how we've seen it so many

years in the past. Amy, what if anything grabbed you from the pre draft news conference on Monday, you know, John Robinson was kind of walking us through the technology aspect and what things are going to be different, and I was surprised by the amount of different channels that he is going to be a part of and be plugged into all at once. He has his scouts on a separate channel from some of the people who would usually be in that war room, which is a separate

channel from all the other thirty one general managers. He's going to have a lot of moving parts in a lot of different screens that he's going to be monitoring. So I'm interested to see how all of that unfolds. And it was cool for me to be able to get a little bit of an insight into what that

exactly is going to look like come Thursday. Coach Mack, as you talk to your friends, colleagues, everybody that you know around the league, what are you hearing about the technology and the concerns that people have, if any, going forward in this process. Well, some are more challenged than others. And I think you know, since we've been into this situation for a while. Now people are getting more comfortable with it. I talked to some people after they're dry running.

It was a little challenging at first. I think the mute button is the big thing that everybody has to give you to, you know, when everybody is hooked up. I mean, but just learning how to operate it. But the overall feeling is is that we're going to be okay, We're going to be fine. You know, Amy referenced, you know what, John Robinson, how many different areas he's going to be hooked up to and hooked into. And I think, look, I think all of the IT departments in the National

Football League are very very accomplished. I mean, in this day and age, you hire those people to do that. And then plus I mean, you know, John Robinson is very very tech savvy. There are some general managers and some head coaches that are not as tech savvy, but they are going to have some help with it. And so to me, the biggest thing I came away with is we're interested to see how it works, but we're also looking forward to making it work. Not anybody that

I talked to said we just don't like this at all. Nobody. I got that from nobody, which mac Let me stay with you for just a second. Jenevian Clowney has not signed with anybody at this point, and obviously Titan fans are very interested in that because the Titan's name has been mentioned with him on multiple occasions. But why has nobody signed the big man yet? What is he waiting on? And or what our team waiting on? What everybody was waiting on early? I mean, we we've said it several

times and here here's what it is. They're waiting on the money, okay, because the money is up there at a high, high range. And also you know, they're waiting on the physical because nobody's been able to physically get their doctors in front of him or him in front of the doctors, and so they're not going to make that move now. And look the way that we're doing things virtually right now anyway, there really is no rush.

And now with the draft coming up, I would anticipate people waiting until after the draft to see what that draft you know, has brought in that position, to see where they're lining up now after the draft, with the positions they're able to accumulate, and then they'll revisit it. The same teams that are interested in him now are going to be interested in him after the draft. Interesting answering, Jim.

I want to go to you on this because someone brought this point up to me and I didn't know it, largely because the Titans have not been in line for a compensatory pick in quite some time. But if you sign a free agent after the draft, he does not count towards the compensatory formula. So whatever you've done, whatever you've lost and gained as of the draft, that determines

your compensatory formula for twenty twenty one. How much of it do you think are teams right now saying let's wait till after the draft because we want to make sure we get as mini picks next year as possible. Certainly a factor, and I've heard people speculate that being potentially the reason that Titans are waiting, that if you wait sign them after the draft, then you're gonna get

a third round pick for Jack Conslin leaving. I don't know that you that teams are necessarily doing it because that, yes, it would be an advantagement to play that game. Then you're certainly putting yourself in a position to have somebody else jump out and get them. So I think you you know, you've got a factor in like like coach Mike said, as hell, and the questions are around what he would do as far as a physical as concerned

the money part of him. And you mentioned the big Man being on the market, Well, the big Man wants a big, a big contract as well. And he initially said he was going to play for twenty million a year. You know he's now said maybe seventeen to eighteen million. I'm working on my most recent mailback. Somebody's asking me about whether he potentially play for a one year proven deal for twelve to fourteen million. That's up to Jadeveon Clowney and I don't know whether he's willing to do

that or not. So you've got a lot of factors to have to consider. And I think when you mentioned Clowney and some of the things that's around him, and there's one other free agents that played for the Titans last year, Logan Ryan finds himself in a similar situation that you know you money as a factor. Hell, it's

not necessarily a factor, was Logan. Money's a factor and the danger that some of these players will be faced with if if the team that's interested in them right now decides to pick somebody in that draft and and addresses it with multiple picks of that position, you're probably going to lose someone who is courting you at the time. So a lot of things to factor in in the compensatory pick is a good question, certainly a part of

the equation. Speaking of staying in Amy Wells, you've started doing a new feature for the Titans social media channels, checking in with Amy Wells, where you've spent time checking in with former and current Tennessee Titans players. As you have recorded these and as you've talked to these guys who are having to stay at home, both former players and current players. Is there a common thread that you're

hearing amongst all of them. Well, it's interesting everybody is trying to stay in and just take it one day at a time. But with current players specifically, every single guy has talked about getting back to the basics in terms of keeping their bodies ready for what will happen when we eventually are able to return to our training facility. Guys are doing a lot of like pushups and sit ups and things that a lot of guys have SA I haven't done this stuff since high school, you know.

I talked to Rashaun Evans and he was like, I feel like I'm getting ready for the state championship game now instead of getting ready for the super Bowl. But

these are the types of things that they're doing. They're really getting back to their roots, I guess when it comes to training, And it's been really interesting because we know that teams are trying to keep up their kind of routine training plans that they have for individual guys, but a lot of guys are just ditching the equipment and ditching some of the things that they've gotten used to as NFL players and are just really going back

to like rocky style workouts. So that's been cool to hear guys really taking it, like back to the garage to get their bodies ready for the season. Coach back a lot of what is being discussed right now with the virtual offseason. I think a quarter of the team started this week, the rest will start next week, and we'll be able to go three straight weeks. From your understanding what you're hearing, what will they be able to get done during the virtual offseason that they're going to

get a chance to start having. You know, I don't think you'll have the big team meetings because that's a lot of people, you know, to to to put onto to one screen at one time. But I think that when they break it down to their individual groups, both defensively and offensively, and then down to the subsets of the of the position rooms, you can get your installation in. Virtually, that will be no problem. You can get that in. You can get feedback, you know, just like we're getting

feedback from one another right here. Visually you can do it, and so they will be able to they will be able to get you know, all of their all of their installation in, you know, once they start, once they are able to start doing that. I liked what Mike Vrabel said he has has told his coaches they've met as a coaching staff about keeping it basic to begin with, because that's going to be extremely extremely important to get everybody back on the same page. You've got to get

into the football mindset. That's what's the great thing. When they all come back together in the facilities like they normally do, you know, you leave all of the offseason thought process behind you, and then you're back into the NFL team concept. Well, now they're going to have to translate that team concept virtually, and he wants them to get back into that mindset and that mode first, but you're going to be able to do it. I spoke with a college coach about the way the NC Double

A is doing it. The NC Double A started out just allowing their coaches four hours a day with their players. They're upping it to eight hours next week, okay, And so clearly you can get something done, and they will get something done. The Titans will be very organized. I do know that I want to mention right now that this is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Healthcare coverage from Bureau Health Plans is like an extra

set of pads when you need them the most. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven Farm Bureau Health Plans. You know, I love the fact that Farm Bureau is now sponsoring the OTP. But I absolutely love that. That is fabulous. You are the face of Farm Bureau Health Plans. How did you get that gig? I'm not the face, but I'm a big fan, it's coach back. Are you doing yours from the Oval office or from maybe a room at the Biltmore Hotel. It's just the

spare room in a Snashville. That's where I'll invite you. I'll invite you to this room sometime. Jim. That's where he plays clue with his friends. So and so it's a kid pick in Coach Max's fancy room. Looks like they filmed the movie Knives Out. Maybe in that room. There you go, Jim Wyatt, do you believe? And then Amy Wells you get to go next, followed by Coach Mack. Do you believe that former Alabama quarterback to tongue of Aloa is falling towards Thursday night based on health concerns?

It's funny this draft, there's so much floating out there, just like every draft. I suspect it's true, just because of the injury questions that he had coming out of college, and then you heard more rumors about some other injuries he had that were never disclosed. The teams have not had the opportunity to do as much research and get as much medical information on him as normal. So I believe that that is in fact true. I think he

is sliding in this draft. I agree. I think that not being able to get hands on with some of these guys, and especially someone who had such a big injury that had so many questions around it, I think that teams are going to play it safe. If you were hot on him to begin with, you're still hot on him. Okay, if you were cold on him right now, you're cold on him. Because people knew going in that he was injured. I mean, you knew this now. Jim's point as far as to not being able, I tell

you who did get to see him. Every doctor of every team saw him at the combine. Every doctor of every team saw him at the combine. And if they didn't, they have all the combine information. So if you, as an organization need a quarterback and you were a too A fan going into the twenty twenty draft, you're still a too A fan. If you were on the fence, you're probably leaning to the other side of the fence right now. But I don't think it's a I don't

think it's a It's a real dramatic fall though. Do you think he gets by the Chargers coach mac at number six? I think he gets by the Chargers. Wow. To me, if there's any movement in this first round, this movement is going to be for quarterbacks. The movement always is for quarterbacks. You heard John Robinson. He's already started talking the drafts I was involved in with clubs,

you know, before you know I started doing this. I mean, you're you've already been on the phone for quite a while and you're talking to people, You're texting people saying, hey, you know you got time to talk about this? Does this interest you? So I think he'll get past them, Yes I do. I'm not so sure the Chargers will be there. Wow. Well that's strong, all right. So let me ask you this, and you start with this, coach, Why why in the world are the New York Giants

talking to Oregon quarterback Justin Herbert. Do you know Dave Getleman. I don't. Okay, Look, Dave has been at this a long time. And and you talk about guys that are old school, that are that are running drafts. He's probably as old school as it gets. You used to do a lot of this stuff, very very important to do. Just exactly for the reason that you asked the question. He's got everybody else asking why are they talking to

him right now? He's got everybody else asking that question, not focusing on who they may pick, or he might be fishing for somebody to come up to get him, thinking if I want Herbert, i'd better move if he's truly disinterested in it. All right, Jim White, I got one for you. Jacksonville supposedly has Yannique Ingockway, the defensive end who signed a franchise contract, and Leonard Fournette on the trading block. Do they deal one or both this weekend?

I think the deal both. Well, there's some bad blood, you know, bruin even more within Gockway on Twitter earlier this week got into a few little war of words with the owner's son which got pretty ugly and got pretty personal, and I don't know if you can repair

that one, to be honest with you. And then the Fournette, a buddy of mine, Ryan o' holleran, who now covers the Broncos that you know, previously covered the Jaguars, you know, made a point over the weekend usually when the Jaguars start floating players out there as far as trade bade that they're done with them, and the fact that he is being mentioned as somebody that they are willing to move,

tells me that they're moving them. So I say both of them are going to be on the move at some point before the two twenty season, whether it happens during the draft, after the draft, but before the season starts. I think I'll be surprised if I see either one of them playing against the Tennessee Titans as a Jaguar. Just anybody happy to be a Jaguar right now? Doug maron how many players have tried to get out of there lately? I mean, I'm serious. I mean, you think

about it. The biggest news you hear out of Jacksonville and this whole lost season is who wants to leave? That's not good. I say, send them to the NFC. Good ridden I mean, they've got two number one picks. Jacksonville has nine and twenty. You wouldn't think they could get a number one for four NET because running backs generally don't go for that kind of market when they're traded. But what do you think they could get for fourg NET? And what do you think in Gokwai could bring? Well?

I don't think they'll get a first round pick for anybody just because they've already floated it out there that they want to move them. And so that tells you that you know they're going to be available somehow to me during the draft. To Jim Wiatt's point, if somebody really needs, you know, somebody to rush the passer badly, and they and they're they're out, their pass rush board is dry, they may say, okay, we will give you

to me. If they're traded. They may not be traded for this year's draft, they may be traded for futures. And so I think there's a possibility that they will both be moved during the draft because, especially on the second day, second and third days of the draft, you as a club kind of have an idea now how your your roster is fleshing out. And so if somebody says, look, we're really void, here, here's what we can do. Here's what we'll give you, Here's what we have left in

this draft. Here's what we've got possibly left for next year. That's what I think will happen. All right, let me go back to your here coach for this one. Washington's head coach is Ron Rivera. You coach Ron Rivera through his entire time in Chicago. You know him. Well, Washington does not have a general manager currently. Supposedly they're gonna hire one after the draft, So people figure Ron Rivera

is making the picks this weekend. If that's the case, is there any way in the world any chance that he does not take Chase Young? I don't think so. You know what this reminds me of. This reminds me of, and it's it's interesting that we're talking about. You know, Ron Rivera and John Fox have got the same type

of connection with it with this. When John Fox, you know, had that job down there in Carolina, he had a chance to get Julius Peppers and I off to Foxy before before that and he said, you know what, there's no way, I don't care what we need. Anybody would need this guy. And I think that's exactly what Ron Rivera will do. You can never have too many guys that have a special ability to put pressure on a quarterback.

You know, the sacks will come, but just to put pressure and make somebody when they're offensively game planning, say look, we're gonna have to turn our line this way, or we're gonna have to chip this way. Chase Young is that dude in this draft? He is that dude. The next dude behind him is Chase On but he's not what Chase Young is. I think Ron Rivera will stick right there and take that player. All right, Jim Wyatt back to you here, and we're gonna get all three

of you to comment on this. You have said, as you've gotten questions in your mailbag at Tennessee Titans dot com, that you believe the Titans will draft the best player available at number twenty nine, And you're not saying regardless of position. I know there certain positions they probably wouldn't go, but your point is they are not bound to one or two spots. Am I interpreting what you're saying correctly from what I read? Yeah, I think best player available

at a position and need. And what I mean there is, if let's say a quarterback happens to fall, I don't think too a tog of the low is gonna be around at twenty nine. But if you had somebody that fell, some people might consider them the best player. But I can't see the Titans taking a quarterback. So, but what you have to consider going in this draft? And I think the Titans have so many areas that could be

addressed that there's a lot on the table. And that includes defensive line, that includes cornerback, that includes offensive tackle, edge rusher, even a running back. I mean it's as crazy as that sounds. If somebody's special is sitting around and you move back and could get extra picks, I could see the team doing just about anything other than taking a quarterback, a kicker, a long snapper, an interior,

a lineman. Yeah, and into your aligement. I think best player available at a position that could that could make an immediate impact. And a quarterback is not going to make an immediate impact of the Titans because they have the team has its quarterback. Amy, when you hear that, how does that strike you? Knowing what you know about John Robinson. I think that Jim summed it up perfectly. I think that pretty much anything is possible for this

Titans team within reason. You know, I don't think anything bananas is going to happen. But John Robinson said it himself. He loves moving around on draft day. He loves to have all of these options. And we know John Robinson, we know that he's had all kinds of lines in the water seeing what will tub. So I think that Jim's absolutely right that there's there's not a lot of things that could be surprising to me. Anyway, come Thursday night, coach Mac. Yeah, you know, let me expand a little

bit on what Jim said. Say you get to twenty nine, and believe me, John Robinson will have already talked to people before they're on the clock. You know that, we all know that. But you get down there and there is a position of need that's there that has more of those players of position and need. This is where your horizontal draft board comes into play. This is where you take your vertical draft board out of it and

then you start to look at your horizontal board. And that's why it's so important because now say you're down there with a corner and you've got four corners kind of grouped in the same spot, or you get down there and there's a say and say there's an offensive tackle and you've got tackles kind of in the same spot group for the next round, and you start talking to trade partners that would be within the range that you think some of those may be that could help

you get a player similar that you have graded very similar and then pick up extra picks. That's the way I think he will go. I don't think he's going to zero in on one person. I think once he's to twenty nine, he will zero in on his horizontal board and zero in on pods of players and positions, because when you pod players up, you compare them not only to the players that are in that position, but that are horizontally across the board in the different positions

are in the same pod. All right, So let me stay with you for a second, Coach, and I want to go back across to Jim next and then to Amy. If you had to rank the odds of what the Titans are most likely to do in the hours leading up to the draft, would trading back be the number one on that list in terms of the most likely scenario, Coach Mac In my mind, yes, Jim Wyatt, I agree,

But it really just depends on who's there. Because if you've got a cluster of players that you like, and you can move back and assure yourself that you're going to get one of them in a position to move back to, that that makes a lot of sense to me. Amy, I think that's number one for me. Okay, I want to do something else, Jim, Why does something at Tennessee Titans dot Com that I just love? I love your look at the mock drafts, fifty of them this week.

Usually when you do them, you have the majority of the people taking the same position, the same player. They're they're all over the place and the leading this year's draft. All right, so we're gonna play the game. Surprised if they take him, or not surprised if the scenario happens, Amy, Jim, Then, coach, all you have to do is no, it's fun. All you have to do a surprise that the Titans took this player or not surprised? You ready? Sure? All right?

Marlon Davidson defensive lineman, Albert not surprised, not surprised, not surprised. Isaiah Wilson offensive tackled Georgia, not surprised, surprised, surprise. Trevon Diggs cornerback, Alabama. Not surprised, not surprised, not surprised. Brandon I you wide receiver, Arizona State. Surprise surprised, AH coach Mack coach Mac, I love Brandon. I I know that's the game coach, not surprised. He says Justin Jefferson, wide receiver,

Louisiana State University. Surprise as they surprised, not surprised. Ezra Cleveland, offensive tackle, Boise State, not surprised, not surprised That one does not surprise me. These are ones again, what the game is here on the OTP is I'm mentioning guys who have been put with the Titans mock drafts, and I'm just throwing out the names. I'm asking our panel, would you be surprised if they end up with the Titans or not surprised? The next name Josh Jones, offensive tackle, Houston,

not surprised, surprised, surprised. Austin Jackson, offensive tackle, Southern California coach Max seems very strongly nodding here, I'm gonna go and not surprised. Amy loves this game. I don't love this game. I would say, not surprised, not surprised. Ross Blacklock defensive line at TCU bro not surprised, I think, not surprised, not surprised. You Tour Gross Mottoes defensive line, edge player, Penn State. Surprised, not surprised, not surprised. Kristen Fulton, cornerback,

LSU surprised, not surprised, not surprised on that one. Zach Bawn edge rusher, Wisconsin. Not surprised, not surprised, surprised. Jeff Gladne cornerback TCU brog not surprised, not surprised, it was a frog. Not surprised. Jeremy chan safety Southern Illinois. Surprise, surprised, surprised, but nice name. Yes, these have all been mentioned as Titans and mock drafts that Jim had at Tennessee Titans dot Com. Aj epinessa outside linebacker, defensive and iowas not surprised.

That surprised me a little. Jalen Johnson cornerback Utah, not surprised, I stay surprised. That would surprise me. Andrew Thomas, offensive tackle, Georgia, not surprised. I stay surprised. Yeah, I'm not surprised. Be surprised if he's there, wouldn't you from what we're reading. A lot of these names, A lot of these names. I like this game though, all right, it's a good game. Jonathan Jonathan Taylor, running back, Wisconsin. I would be surprised,

I say surprised. You know Swift was in there before and he got replaced by one of the guys doing the mock drafts. I think a running back would surprise me. It will be a nice weapon I have. You only have one pick, Jim surprised Terrell Lewis outside linebacker Alabama. I'd be surprised, not surprised, surprised. Denzel MEM's wide receiver Baylor. I'd be surprised, surprised, surprised. That's twenty different names mentioned with the Titans in the mock drafts. That's why the

draft is so great. I mean it really is because there are thirty two different rooms. Now, there's a lot of more different rooms than that. If there's thirty two different decision makers, and that is why this is such a great exercise. But I love doing that exercise and the biggest reason I love doing it is watching Amy Wells's face. It's so worth it to me. It's a trait. I don't like it. Coachmack, do you have a favorite layer, regardless of round in this draft? A favorite football player?

Just a favorite? Yeah? Just somebody you just like. Man, I just love this guy. I love the way he plays. It's not doesn't matter which round. I just enjoyed. I just enjoyed watching him play ball. A Meek Robertson from louisi Antitech. Oh is he? Is? He the next honey Badger? That guy? I tell you what you know for DB's being able to stay in phase, then being able to be competitive at the catch point, and then just have a dog mentality to you. I love the way this

kid plays. It's so much fun to watch him play. And I don't. I mean, he's five eight, a buck eighty five maybe, but that dude plays ball. I love watching guys that love to play ball. He loves to play ball. Fourteen picks in three years playing down There, had a chance to go to LSU at the end of his recruiting process and said nope, I'm gonna stick with my commitment to Louisiana Tech and then became all

world there. Mike Detailia, who is best friends with ed Oseron, best friends since childhood, literally there it is with his Mike D Guide. Here's mine, my Mike B guide right here. Amy, you didn't get one, I've got it. Yeah, Mike has mine. Mike Detailia says it's ed Oseron's biggest mistake since he became head coach at LSU in terms of recruiting a Meek Roberts. Wow, that's a that's a great that's a great story right there. Would you watch him play? If

you like watching ball, watch bess kid play football. I'd love to coach that kid. My favorite player and I have an SEC biased I admitted, but Clyde Edwards, a layer from Lsu is mine. I think the guy is just a ball player. I know he's five seven. This is the year of short backs too. I mean Swift is five eight and they're a bunch of number five nine McFarland I think from Maryland is five eight. But I love Edward Zilaire. I like his fierceness. I like

how he runs inside. He's got a little Emmett Smith to him. Does it seem like he should get through holes that he does? He can catch the ball. I love this player gets in the end zone. I think somebody's gonna steal him on day two, Jim, do you have a favorite player. I have an SEC boss too. I've met Jerry Judy. I just like the way he plays. I like his speed. I like his ability just to kind of glode almost and still race past defenders. I think he's gonna be a special pro. All right, Amy Wells,

you can't say somebody from Missouri. I mean, I guess you know I will. But here's my thing. My chance to evaluate this crop of players has been taken from me because the pre draft desits have all been moved for virtual and that is where I falla So, and let's tell everybody. Amy gets to interview players free draft visits, and so she gets to know them, and she always has. She always has her views based on not only the tape, spending time with coach Matt getting the feelings from that,

but you get to know. I get to know them, and I get to have conversations with them, and so I didn't get very many this year. So I'm going to have to just pick Justin mad A Bouquet mad A Bouquet out of Texas, A and M. I've enjoyed watching him. I've had a chance to watch a little bit of his tape and some of the things that he does, and holy smoked, he is a big dude. So that's my favorite player that I'm rooting for. And

I wouldn't mind if he was a Titan. You know who has been training him getting ready for the draft. Former Titan defensive lineman. Who Sean Smith. Well, there you go, see part of the family already. Where does Matta Bouk go in this draft? Dave McGinnis, He'll be in the second round. He will be in the top third of the second round. It's a good looking player, good player, and he just he plays consistent. Nice pick Amy. I

mean that that kid likes to play ball too. All right, I got one more for you, coach before we go, and that is the post draft scramble for the undrafted. And for those of you who have never seen it, the four of us have had the chance to see it. Coach Mack has obviously lived it. The other three have witnessed it. You have people running throughout your building with phones, going into different rooms doing recruiting, talking to players, talking

to agents, trying to gather this class together. It would seem like the undrafteds are even more important in this draft because you're not gonna know as much about your back end guys, the guys with questions, big questions, probably aren't going to get drafted. You may be able to get a better player in the undrafteds than you can on Day three. That being said, how are they gonna handle this? How are teams gonna handle this without everybody

together in the same building. Let me give you a little landside on the what goes on most of all, you start to you start to put this group together early, and you lean on your area scouts hard. And what you do is you assign an area scout with a position to the position coach, and so you're the secondary coach. I'm the area scout. I'm assigned to all the free agent dbs. I've got all their numbers, I've got their agents,

I've got everything. And then I come to you this is prior to the draft, saying, look, if this is this, is this is this, and you categorize them ABC or D. You categorize them for those four categories for three reasons. The first is for want. The second time, the reason you do is for the money you're going to spend, because you've got a finite amount of money that you can spend on these free agents. Each club has the

same finite amount of money. So if you go out and you give twenty thousand dollars to one, well, then that means you're not going to be able to give as much to another one. So once this starts and once you get around that sixth round. How good a job your assistant coaches and your area scouts have done prior to the draft of staying in touch with these guys, and you never call them and say, hey, look, when

you're not drafted. You don't ever say that. What you do say is, look, we really like you as a player. Good luck in the draft. God bless you. You know, if it comes up and we have a chance, maybe something will work out. If not, and just say you're not drafted, we'd love to get a chance to be able to talk to you because you would be a great fit for what we're doing here. You go through who all you have on your roster, everything at that position.

You'll try to involve the position coach. Sometimes if it's a real high priority free agent. Look, this thing is. This thing is organized chaos. It really really is. It's a lot like the floor of the stock exchange. Right, some guys over here saying I got so and so how much did you give him ten grand? Okay, we've got this much less. Look I've already offered him ten. You can't right out of money take that away. It's it's a pretty amazing process. I loved it. It's the

wild West. Is exactly the wild West, and it's really gonna be the wild West with everybody not in this, you know, with people not able to run down the hall and say, guy says he'll take two grand more, he'll come if we'll give him two grand more. And you know whoever says, yeah, we'll sign off on that. Now,

who do you call? You hit it? This is going to be interesting, you know, just to knowe if cel Rocado, who I really love, God bless THEO, talk to me more about scouting than I could ever Ever, I can never pay CEO back for what he did for me. When he was going after free agents. CEO had no boundaries. CEO would offer guys so much money and come in, I got him. How much you offer him twelve? Ceo, we don't have that much. Now we'll figure it out.

So he would just go. CEO had no boundaries. You finally had to say CEO, and it couldn't be anybody. Couldn't be anybody but Floyd or Jeff Fisher. Finally have CEO, you're done free agents. You know what he did with Brad Castle, Remember that what he did with Brad Castle. Tell the story. I mean Brad Castle from North Texas that played for you know, played for me. I love Brad Castle. One of the toughest dudes I've ever coached in my life. Just real country, tough, all right. Love

the dude. Okay, but you know, we were trying to get him. And I mean, and Brad Castle couldn't run out of sight in a day. I mean, you know, he couldn't. But he made a lot of tackles at North Texas. CEO loved it. Texas kid, tough kid, and so CEO We're trying to get him. And some said, well what did he run? Don't worry about what he ran? Well, well, you know, and so Floyd's trying to help see go out and and enhance Brad Castle's profile. I said, well

does he long snap? Yeah, he's a good long snapper. All right. We signed him as a free agent, bring him in about the second day out of liar said Brad, come on that here snap and Castle goes, why he said, nap, didn't you? He said, never snapped in my life. He said, did you snap in high school? No? Hell no? So see, Okada, he was a quarterback at high school. He did's what he's seeing. Because I was a quarterback at high school. I didn't long snap, you know what. He was a

good player. Oh so is right, I'll Brad Bradcastle is well, he's in my top ten just just because he's Bradcastle. Correct me if I'm wrong. But Broadcastle had a an interception in the season finality against the Lions, I guess in two thousand food and nineteen tackles. And so we're reviewing the film, thanks Jim, what another coach mac story? And so we're reviewing the film with Jim Schwartz. At the end of the season. All right, we finished on

a high note. We really finished pretty strong. That team wasn't very good that year. Yeah, it cost ourselves the number two pick in the draft by winning that last game. Ended up with pac Man Jones. Yeah, that's really it was really great. Thanks for winning that, coach, Well, that's another story. Anyway, we're watching the film as a defense, you know, with with Jim Schwartz, and we're watching and watching and watching, and of course I've already graded Castle's

film night before and I take it in. I said, Schwartzen, you're not gonna believe the game Castle head the nineteen tackles. I mean everyone documented, so we're watching it, watching it, and so the players when we were watching the tape the last day in there as a defensive team, they start cheering for Castle every tackle that he makes. And Keith Bullock was a huge Castle fan. And so at the end of the meeting, everybody jumps up and starts cheering.

They carry Brad Castle on their shoulders out of the defensive meeting room. Amy, I wish you could have known Bradcastle. There has never been another Titan quite like him. I would say. For what Jim Washburn was as a coach, and I love Jim Washburn, Bradcastle was as a player. Two old school outlaws. Oh a nice analogy that coach, Michael. You probably got some insight, more insight on how Brad Castle towards Achilles. I think it a barbecue on the fourth of July. He was down there with all those

other Yahoo's that he grew up with. It was the fourth of July. It was on a homemade sement picnic bench, so you can imagine what that was, okay, And after about seventy eight beers, he said, on the edge of that thing, okay, and it tipped and the whole cement block of the seat came down and severed as a killings okay. Oh, it was a family nick with quotation marks around family. He came into training camp and tried

to hide the Achilles for about three days. I was doing my individual drills, I said, Castle, have you worked out one inch this summer? I said, what is wrong with you? Because he wasn't the fastest dude anyway, but I mean he was slower than smoke off snow going through those drills. I mean it was amazing. And so finally, you know, we got him in there to Brad Brown and they looked at him, Oh my oh man. When he went in to talk to Jeff Fisher, it was amazing.

But he played with that, did he? Oh he tried, Mike, he had he had to get it fixed. He tried early on. But it was I know exactly the story. I lived it. Yes, And you didn't even ask about the story about him getting a fight one night on the caravan either. That's another whole first story. That's yeah, I didn't. They didn't tell me about that for a year.

They hid that from me for a year. He went to an establishment and uh, I mean these were you know, this a long time ago before before these where you could have the you know, you could take a lot of pictures. Oh man, what was Bradcastle's running mate name that we brought in Cody? What was Cody's Cody Spencer? He was another one too, well, the Wrench. We brought the Wrench in with him and they had been running mates. Brad Castle was was the Cody Spencer's the Wrench's mentor

at North Texas. They knew the North Texas Police Department and Bail my first name. Let me tell you something. This is why you listen to the Official Titans podcast, presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. This is why right here, if you listen to nothing else, the Bradcastle stories are worth it. And Jim Wyatt, thanks for egging it on. I need to see coach Mark and a robe smoking a pipe in that. Oh hello, Jim Watt at Tennessee

Titans dot Com. Great stories and features. How do people follow you on the social media at Jay Wyatt Sports And as you mentioned our website now Tennessee Titans dot Com, Amby Wells, how do they follow you on the social media at Titans Amy Amie coach back. We're getting ready for big work on Titans Radio. We're gonna do the entire first round on Thursday night. Our coverage begins at seventh Central on Titans radio stations, and the entire second

and third round on Friday night. Our coverage starts at six o'clock Central time. Are you ready? I'm so excited about this. I'm so excited about this. I'm just sad when we turn this off and I can't see y'all anymore. Well, I know it's been It's been so great to be with you guys again. And thank you for the Bradcastle stories. Oh gosh, I would love to have Bradcastle on an edition of the OTP. I don't know that we could

air it, but I would tape it. Do you have any Matt Castle stories by I think Matt Matt Castle another great guy. But I'd say those stories are pretty tame. Those stories are diametrically different. Yes, I would say they're very They're very different. They would involve Chuck E. Cheese and his children and his wife, lots of happy things. He's a good guy though, funny guy too, all right, So for Coach Dave McGinnis, for Jim Wife, for Amy Wells, for Brad Castle, my kids, thanks for being with us.

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