The OTP: NFL Draft Preview

go ahead, rich look at each other. I'm trying to be nice. I want to make sure that you know Coach Mack can jump right in there. You gotta give him the Rocky Balbola line age before Beauty. Adrian, Adrian, great to be here, very excited, always excited to talk draft and the adrenaline is flowing for me. I mean, here we go do this. I just love seeing everybody in person again. It didn't nice, No, it's great. I mean you know these I mean this is this is a cool group and I miss cool groups. I like

being with cool groups. Ashley Farrell, You're also part of that group. I know you can't say anything, but I'm glad you're here too. She can say all kinds of stuff. We just want people to hear it. Okay. But Ashley Farrell, for those who don't know, runs the show for us on the OTP, and we are most appreciative of her and the good things that she does. Right, Brian, we will be on Titan's radio starting at six Central on Thursday night and Friday night all of the first round,

all of the second and the third round. And how many radio stations outside of one oh four five zone have picked it up? About another dozen stations along the network and in Alabama in Tennessee. I mean, yeah, that's it's pretty pretty good stuff. We gotta get our Kentucky partners on that, huh. Yes we do. And I'll be sending out another email probably in the day or two saying a reminder reminder. But yeah, I've had the couple just kind of jump on, Hey, I hadn't forgotten you.

I'm we're in so but yeah, Memphis, Birmingham, Huntsville. Yeah, absolutely. People have grown to love the draft. Yes, I mean, it's really become a huge thing with our fan base, and it should be I mean, it's it's a phenomenon nationwide. It really is. I mean, look at what it has started out, you know, especially you know when they're at the Blackstone Hotel. They're in Chicago years ago, when everybody was drafting off a street and Smith's magazine trying to

figure out who guys were. And it's a cottage industry now, I mean, it really is. I mean, and it's it is exciting, it's fun. The draft is about hope, but the draft is also about an excitement, and especially nowadays with free agency in the salary cap, you're going to add new players constantly. So it's a very exciting time. Before diving into draft, let's talk about some of the

rules things that the league did earlier this week. Maybe the greatest thing Rhet Brian Owners eliminated pre seasoned overtime. I will second that by saying it may be the greatest modification of the rule book since slice bread became a thing. It's the forward pass with my gosh, Holy Moses. And this is completely unrelated, but when I think about preseason game, I go back to that two thousand and four preseason game in Green Bay, the last one against Titans.

You know at lambeau Field in the lightning delay and they couldn't find you know, Commissioner Tagliaboo on the phone, he was into Hampton's. Yeah, and it was, you know, a nearly two hour delayed before the two minute warning of the first half and all that suff and I just think about, you know, you grit your teeth silently, your own gosh, it's it's knotted up and it's a fourth quarter and it's the last preseason. Somebody scores, Somebody something, please,

This is fantastic. Should have been done a long time ago. Well, we played in two thousand and five, I believe it was in San Francisco in the preseason. It went to the last play of overtime and then we had to fly back across the country and it had like a nine thirty central kick. Yeah, it was a night game. I mean we got back it like six o'clock in the morning. Yeah, this is making my stomach hurt. It

was the old candlestick. And the thing for teams though, is it's not just inconvenient for all of us who are around it and don't want to see overtime preseason football. But you're out of guys at that point. A lot of times. I was there at that one that you're talking about live and in person. But even before then, I'm probably a reason they've got this rule. Now, when I was a head coach at Arizona, We're playing a preseason game against Seattle and Mike Homegren and I just

drafted Bill Grammatica all right as a place kicker. And it came down to, you know, it was the last play where it was about a forty seven yard field goal and I could have either kicked the field goal and gone into overtime or try to take a snap and throw it, and and Homegren was on the other sideline, you know, looking at me, going like this, and I mean,

I just drafted Grammatica. So I sent Grammatica out there, and of course he nails it right down the middle, and we're going overtime, and Mike Home're gonna after the game just looked at messive coach, Seriously, I just drafted the dude. You got to use it, I said, I just I just drafted the dude. I said, my bad, I'm sorry. Look, and then you know, Bill Grammatica paid me back by blowing his acl by jumping up and celebrating in the New York Giants, so I got paid

back for that. I remember the story about he made a game winning kick or a game tying kick and jumping up and down that's when he blew out his ACL. Okay, Mike, now, that would have been a better part of the story, Okay, to be a game winning or game tying But it was in the first quarter, and it was it was the first score of the game, and it was in.

It was in it was an old Giant stadium, as you know, when they'd opened the doors going towards the doors that were open, and it was a forty three yarder. Jim Fossil was the head coach of the other team, and so Grammatica nails it. I mean it's a great kick, I mean it is. But it's a first quarter, all right, we're a head three to nothing. Okay, it's and he jumps up. I mean, you know, he's some Argentina so they you know how they spin around at soccer and

all that. He jumped up and came down and just blew it. And you know, he hit the ground and went down to the ground and then limped off. And so now we've kicked the field goal, right, So the rules are you got to kick off? Right? And so the trainer comes up to me and said, kicker can't kick off? And I said why? I said, thank he tore as ACL And I said, he what they say, tore as a cl? I said, doing what they said? Well celebrating? Did you see the celebration? Yes, idea. I thought,

you know, you're a human athlete. You can't just blow your a c all out jump it up and coming down. So I went over there to him and I said, what can you do? Coach? I think I hurt my knee? I said, is your knee hurt? Or did you tear your ACL? I don't know. I said, can you kick? No? I said, great, that's it, last word I said to him. So then ever so then then I went. Then I went to the to the our special team's coach and said,

who we got to kick off? And he said, I come screaming down the sideline, Pat Tillman, coach, I can kick? I said, Tilly, seriously, you can kick. I told you a few words I can't say on the OTP. I could kick. And I said, all right, go kick. So here's my kicker. The rest of the game. We had to go for two. When we scored, I said, can you kick an extra point? He said, oh, oh yeah. He thought he could do anything, all right, And so there's where it was. But he was kicking straight on right, No,

straight on, I mean just dead straight on lou Grozas style. Okay, took off run a kick. It went bouncing around like a duck on a sidewalk, you know, you know, just bouncing around everywhere down there. But first quarter only Coach Mac with the story. This is why you listen to the OTP. You got that right, Amy, Wow, that's unbelievable. No, no, it's not unbelievable. It had happened. I would never lietv wow. I mean, that's a great story. What's a true story.

It's a true story. That's people want me to write a book. I will when I'm through with all this. Do we get to pre screen that book? No, all, y'all will come out good in it. Speaking of kicking, By the way, who was the last straight on kicker? Russell erk s Laban Do you think he was probably the last one? The last regular straight coach Longhorn University. He was also a good punder well. He could really punt. He was an athletic dude. The youngsters here don't remember

what a straight on kicker was. Sounds like it hurts, It really did. Remember when you used to have to square toe and tie Jim Baching with the Saint Luimkin with the Cardinals to tie up his shoe. He had a square toe and so he would hit seven field goals in a game. The last foot Mark Moseley for the Washington football team. For the Washington football team. That's correct, Google, Nice job, Ashley Farrell. He wore the one bar and his holder was Joe Fisman, who also wore the one bar.

I remember that stuff that you don't want to know, but stuff that I wonder about when it comes to the national football That's why miss being on the OTP, with all the uninteresting facts, probably should have wore more than one bar. Of the day he met Lawrence Taylor. Hello. In twenty twenty one, the receiving team on kickoffs will be limited to nine players within ten to twenty five yards of the ball. That's one less. Last year, on

side kicks, sixty seven of them. How many were successful, Amy Wells of sixty seven, I would say four all right, Red, Brian, I'd say less than that. Okay, Coach Mack. Three is correct, Thank you, Coach Mack giving us the three here. It's not a very visual medium, but I will tell you

that's what he said. Is this a better change, in your opinion, Dave McGinnis than what was the quote unquote gimmick of giving a team a fourth and fifteen chance to keep the ball which was proposed and then table Absolutely, yes, okay, absolutely yes. I still like the fact they have to kick it. You may not get any more than three of sixty seven again, but at least numbers wise, you have a better chance if it doesn't work. Would you

be more willing to accept the fourth and fifteen gimmick? No? No, Rhett, you're a traditionalist. But I mean, honestly, outside of the surprise on side, the onside kick is basically out of the game. Now, Well, I mean evidence, Bun that many a three three seven? Yeah? I think it was eleven of one twelve over the two preceding seasons they did try sixty seven of them, though they did or sixty

seven of them. So these the special teams, coaches, and you've seen the different ways they've schemed it up with the watermelon kick, you know, and you know what Bones Fossil used to do. Who's a special team's coach now the Cowboys when we were with the Rams, would do would would make the approach and have a guy beat you know, ambidextrious? Is it still ambidextrous with your legs? If you do it amphibious? Amphibious? Would would would fake it with his right and kick it with his left

the other way. You know, a lot of different things that you can do. So they attempted sixty seven of them. They're still the glimmer of hope, like when you're sixty seven. But as a fan, you still feel, don't you When you see your team running out for that play. They line up, all right, this is it. We just gotta get this success rate on a side kicks. It's not great, worst history, it's not. I'm just an optimist, but they go out there, this is it. I'm an optimist. You're unrealistic. Unrealistic.

I think that all we got to do is make this play. Okay, Matt, that's because you're scared of her. Wow, I get excited. I hate that it is not a competitive play anymore. I hate it. When it was twenty to twenty five percent, that was great. It is. Listen, it's the most dangerous play in football if it's if it's done the way it was back in my day. We're not awed brass knuckles. And I mean when you get sent out there at any level, at any level of football, on on sidekick receiving team, you knew that

might be it for you. Can I tell you the coaching points back in the old days, sure, First of all, there was only two people days need to go get the ball? Okay, two people because you could line up as many as you wanted. The rest of them was to do like braveheart destroy, take off running and destroy anything in front of you as hard as you can. And one guy your job was. Because there's always a guy that stands behind the first line that is supposed to catch it. You go try to annihilate him. Don't

even try to get the ball. You're not You're not involved to get the ball. Do you remember who got taken out in a game at Nissan Stadium A last time the Titans recovered an onside kick. Gonna be in the Hall of Fame. Larry Fitzgerald and the great incredible comeback against the Bits. Ryan Fitzpatrick leads the Titans back from seventeen down in the final minutes, then throws an interception in overtime. Sounds about yeah, it wasn't. It was

so typical Fitzy. But anyway, but the onside kick went to Larry Fitzgerald and he got lost the ball, didn't know where he was, couldn't come back in the game. And I thought, at that point, man, you know, if you're putting Larry Fitzgerald in there, I don't believe i'd do that. I'd rather lose the game. But you had a chance at that point, yes, and now just make the play. Well three of sixty seven Coach Mack was

saying is there wasn't a hands team. There was a hands duo originally, and then it was like running into a Civil War battlefield. Good luck, it was braveheart on Marcus set go. Who I mean, it was rough. And now it's like, unless something really flukey happens, there's almost no chance. And the league needs to have that be a competitive play because you don't need people turning off the TV if it's a two score game in the final five minutes and they know there's no chance. Yeah,

not with our hundred billion dollars TV deal. I get it, and I see what you're saying, and it's similar to the kickoff argument with all the touchbacks and all of that. I know you are. Do you want every second to be the most compelling, exciting thing. I want to see if if we could light people on fire and have a run around, you be into it because it'd be exciting. Yeah. Well, I know if it was a football play. I want to see football plays. That's why in the pros, I

don't want to see twenty yard extra points. I want to see thirty three yard extra points because if it counts a point, and these are the best kickers in the world, they ought to be able to make one further than a college kicker. If they're going to say that the on side kick is unsafe, then let's get rid of it and let's do a fourth and fifteen play that gives somebody a chance and at least puts the percentages back over ten percent. Amy. Yeah, I mean

right now the percentages are at like five. Yeah. Amy. If they're the best athletes in the world, they should also be able to recover any But they can't because in essence for how it's set up now, they don't have a chance because you can't have ten guys on a side, and you can't. I mean, it's got to be some trick them. Amy, don't give in. I'm not giving he's not given anything. Well, he's just getting louder.

I'm not quitting. Just let him spin himself out. Presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans, look to the folks at Farm Bureau Health Plans when you need someone who understands the xs and o's of healthcare coverage. They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. All right, move on to the next point. Since Amy got the last one wrong, the owners approved expanded booth to communications review. So the booth, the replay official, can now talk to the referee, no

sky judge, no lord of officiated, the sky judge. The sky judge idea was one that he or she would essentially be the eighth official and could make a call from the booth. There's some people who like that idea.

There's some people who think that's too much. In this way, the replay official, Dave McGinnis can radio down to young Hokulee or whomever it is in the working the ball game and can say, Hey, it's pretty obvious on the TV replay the guy caught the ball, or it's pretty obvious on the TV replay that you've spotted the ball incorrectly. Is it too intrusive? Do you? What do you think about this? I like it? You do like it? I do like it. We've got the technology now to do it.

And one of the reasons they say that they're still are not in on the sky judge being all powerful up there. They're not sure how many qualified people they have yet to be able to spread out across the league and do it, you know, empirically, without much delay. I like this, I really do, because we've got the technology. How many times, Mike, are you and I in the booth and we get that truck replay and we go, uh, I thing hit the ground. We that hit the ground.

We can see it now. We can see it because we get we get the truck copy, we can see it well. The person in the booth, the replay official, will get that same copy. I'm all for it. How many times last season did you and I do double backflips because of the misspotted balls. Oh no, No, seriously, how many times I know exactly how many times? Six Wow? In a game? Again, I mean they can't spot, they can't spot the ball. And so I'm all for this. It's an enhancement of that's the idea of booth to

field communication in this thing. That's the right word. Yeah and so, and I like that because I think you're going to get more clear and concise decisions. I think it is certainly in an effort to reduce errors in those things. And I think you'll see that as a byproduct. Do you buy it? Yeah, I buy it. I mean until something egregious happens, I'm on board goes terribly wrong. Theoretically, it could keep something egregious and that's the whole And

that's the whole idea. Like if you're in a hurry up situation and it's just obvious something is missed, that can be fixed like that, And and they've the nice thing is they're going to have three preseason games to play with it, right. I'm all for an extra set of eyes whenever you can get them. I think that is valuable. I think they need all the help they can get with the technology. It's like a full time accountability partner for four quarters. See I could, I could

do that job. Yeah, and I'm just busy. I wasn't an official, but I could do that job, right, and they could. They could get former coaches to do that job because you can't. You don't have to be an official right to be able to rectify some of those things. No, you know, the game situationally, the whole thing. That's why I'm saying. And so to me, this has some good merit. Yeah. And the point too is and people may wonder this that guy could not be theoretically at least could not

be in the referees ear telling him things. Now, there have been some conspiracy theorists that think they've been doing this for years and that this is just legal. There's no proof of that. But now that person, the replay official, can be in the referees ear by virtue of this rule. It's like a television producers of the news anchor, etc. Right. Yeah,

I like it. I'm into it. Can we talk about another thing that has happened in the last couple of weeks and Mike Keith, I think you're going to like this because you really like uniforms in jersey number and the day to day outfitting of I like an outfit. Yeah, so I think you're gonna like this because the league has expanded the jersey numbers that certain positions can wear. So let me tell you running backs, tight ends, fullbacks,

h backs, wide receivers. Basically, skilled players can wear numbers one through forty nine and eighty through eighty nine. Defensive backs can wear numbers one through forty nine, linebackers one through fifty nine, So quite the range and single digits. Single digits are available now for a lot of people. Who do we think is the first Titans player, Michae I'll start with you, because you like this so much.

Who do you think is the first Titans player to take advantage of this new rule and change their number, change their number well, or take advantage of the new rule. I guess I think whomever they draft highly in the secondary end at wide receiver will do it this year and take a single digit, take a single digit. I really liked what aj Brown did though. Of course, he was number one at Old Miss, and so he is eleven with the Titans. He's considering number one, number one.

He goes back and he looks at the history. Number one is retired. As a matter of fact, when Gary Anderson joined the Titans in two thousand and three and two thousand and four, they unretired it because Gary Anderson was one of the great kickers of all time. But it was Warren Moons and AJ being a young guy, doesn't know the whole history. So what does he do? Rhet He reads up on Warren Moon and then says, hey, love to be number one. It would be cool, but

Warren Moon, you're the bomb. I'm not doing it. I thought, man, one more reason to love Arthur one. Right. It is a great story, and that has just happened recently, and for him too, because young folks don't always just check to see what's what. They just they're like, I don't know, I didn't know that. He went did his homework and that's what I really appreciate about what he did, and then gave a tip of cap to the respect to Warren Moon and saying, hey, no wonder you wore number

one and it's retired. Hands off, I'm good. I'm good with eleven. A couple of things on this that I think is interesting. One Tom Brady put on his social media. He hates this idea and he hates it for the lineman he put on his Instagram today. He says, why not letting lineman wear whatever numbers they want too? Why have numbers? Just have colored jerseys? Why not wear the same number? Dumb at NFL at NFLPA Here, Tod, let me ask you a question. How much change do you

make off those twelves? You're not TB and a color. You're TB twelve, right, that is your brand, TB yellow TV whatever. No, he's TB twelve, and thank you for setting me up for the next point on No. I have read and I don't know if this is true, but I read where you can change your number if you're in one of these that you outlined to a

single digit. But you apparently have to buy the merchandise that's always been of the remaining numbers of your numeral jerseys from the league, at whatever price it is and whatever's left out there, which is, However, if you wait till next year, because those jerseys and things change all the time, and that inventory has gone and it's old,

it's it's outdated, it will cost you nothing. In twenty twenty two, Derrick Henry could say right now, I'm gonna go back to two and it wouldn't cost him anything. But if he did it for this year, he would have to buy out and think about how many twenty two jerseys there are? You know who I think may do it? And I want to ask the expert, Dave McGinnis. I think Jack Rabbit may do it. I think Generus Jenkins because he's been a sign twenty but nobody's bought

any twenties yet, so they haven't mass produced them. He could do it. Does he think about it? Knowing what you know about Jack Rabbit? Jack Rabbit, I don't think he's married to a numb But would he have the mentality to do it and the thought process? Yes, yeah, he absolutely would. But your answer was the best answer because of this, because of the money it would cost. You know, real guys. Now, some guys that don't have a big inventory sitting in a warehouse someplace, they may change,

and not just to a single digit. They may want to change their number because if you'll remember, I mean the league went through number changes in seventy three, seventy four, and I think the last one was eighty two. You know, as far as adding more numbers, and the reason that they started putting linebackers in the nineties was because more people started playing thirty four defenses and they ran out

of fifties. Okay, And so I think there are some that might change to a different double digit number that don't have to buy out the inventory, because a lot of times those guys that get those jerseys with unusual numbers that end up making it and then they have to have that number because you've got that number hosses out of those other number that you can't assign. Those are the guys that might change. But anybody that's got big inventory out there, they're waiting until it's free. My

mind is blown. I'm just sitting here tabulating the numbers of how expensive it would be for Derrick Henry to change his jersey number. Yes, because astronomical. And you think about this, because it's the NFL. They're not giving a hometown discount. No, you're gonna hit that at two ninety

five pp or whatever it is. Yeah, I mean you're gonna pay for it because that's it's retail, that's their money first, that's yeah, and then then the teams get a cut, right, and then the player gets a cut and everybody that There are a lot of people who get a cut of a jersey going to You're not going to Costco or Sam's Wholesale Club and getting the deal. Nope, you're getting that at team. You still like a guy like Okay, Rashaun Evans, he was thirty at Alabama, wasn't.

I believe that's right? So would he want to go back to thirty next year? Maybe? I think if you're a young guy who was just kind of assigned to Max point signed an ugly number. What's an ugly number? There are definitely ugly numbers. Give me an ugly number. Forty three, Well, that's retired and ugly. Don't have to worry about it. You've never seen it here. No, I'm just saying, there are some numbers that don't look great. Eighty seven I don't love. Eighty seven doesn't look good,

not really. No, you've got to be the right of eighties and nineties numbers. You've got to be the right person. But eighty eight looks good, eighty six looks fine, eighty seven. There are some numbers that just don't look great. Eighty four is a very good looking well, like like forty nine, that's an ugly number. That's a horrible number. Yeah, forty nine is not great. See what's said about numbers. I actually know what she's talking about. There's something that just

actually agree with her. But you're just letting her hang herself. I'm letting her do it because if I bring it up, it's embarrassing. Going too that whole frable thing about uniforms and numbers, and I get in trouble. I like gear. I mean I admitted I like gear. I like gear when I played a hundred years ago, and I like it now. I like the cool shoes. I still I love that all the tennis shoes are back, the Jordan's

and the stan Smiths and all the like. No, I like there are all elements of an outfit right like it. What more, in this area, teams are right now, for the most part, not going to come in for OTAs, and the union is stressing this. The players are pretty much in solidarity, although like the Titans players statement is hey, if a guy needs to go in to do his thing,

that's cool. You do what you want to do. But they don't want to have to stay in town and come in for practice and running around in shorts, and the league seems to be acquiescing some much to the chagrin of coaches and and general managers. But I think everyone realizes that because of twenty twenty and what happened and how the season went, that there was probably going to be a change with COVID still in our world, Coach mac, are the offseason programs as we've known them

now gone? Do you think? Yes, they're gone. Okay, they're gone, and it's gonna it's gonna change and it's gonna evolve. And last year, you know, proved some pretty big points and it's it's hard for people that have been involved in this for a long time to think because you know, for a long time in coaching, and again I put myself in that category because I coached for thirty one straight years in this league. It was always more was better, you know, the more, the more was better. You know.

We went twice a day in pads two days for six weeks. I mean, there was a lot. It's it's it's evolved and it's going to evolve even more. And I think last year's success of this season with look our football team that we love here the Tennessee Titans. They went sixteen days without being together in the middle of a season and walk through for three days and be the playoff team in a football game that counted. So there is a lot that has changed, and I

think that it's going to evolve even more. And so I don't think it's ever going back to what those of us that have been involved with it for our half our adult lives have known. Is that a good thing? Yeah? I think it is. I think it is because the empirical data that came back as far as the lessening of injuries and the thing that's happened now Mike and Amy and Rhett and Ashley, even though she can't talk this can talk this this this to me. This to me.

You know when they started doing uh you know, all of the GPS in the in the jerseys and you started being able to get print outs daily. As a coach, I mean, I've been involved in this where you look and you see as to whether a guy's used to call it workload or how you know, his legs look tired management And so to me, when you start getting that type of data and you can you can then take that and you can construct a practice for the next day and take and take some guys down and

amp some guys up. Mike Vrabel does a tremendous job of this. He's got a great feel for it. And so all of these things are coming into because again the National Football League as a head coach, the most important thing for a head coach once the season starts, other than you know the schematic XS and os and is getting your best football team healthy to game day.

Getting your best football team healthy to game day. And that best book football team changes weekly because of who's available and who's not, and so it's your charge to get the best available to game day every week. So I think it's helps well. And we also have to remember that guys, I think more than ever before, have very specific regiments, workouts, recovery routines. They all have these different things that they are investing their own time and

their own money in. And I think the more time that a guy can stay with his trainer, can stay with his offseason program, whatever it is, as long as the guy's showing up healthy when it counts for training camp and they are ready to go, I don't really see any problem with that, especially with the technology the way that it is where they can still get some of that training and they can meet with their coaches

and do that in the appropriate time slots. They're still getting some of the mental work, and yet they're sticking to their own training. And I'm not saying that team provided training plans and eating frands and all of that. Those are great, and those trainers know their players, but guys also have their own individual routines that maybe give

them a something a little bit different. They're able to focus their skill set in a different way and what it is they're really working on, and it's something that they are going to take very seriously because they're investing their own resources into it. So, Rett, Brian, do you think it's possible that the OTAs become a template that the teams are able to use for just young players

and that they don't do it with vested veterans. Instead, the vested veterans come in for a week of mini camp or a few days, but the OTAs as we know them are for guys who are rookies up to three or four years of service. I think it can completely transition to that. When you're talking undrafted free agents and certainly your draft class or first and second year guys you've invited to a rookie mini camp. Slash Ota to transition into that and use this as a modern

model going forward. I recently had a discussion with former Steelers safety Ryan Clark who said he worked out West with his trainer every offseason and did not come in until it was really time too and he was getting messages eighte come in, come in, come in, And he said coach Tomlin would say he'd show him in front of the team as a film example. I can tell he's been working. I can tell he's been working. I see his movements, his footwork, his speed. I'd see. So

there it's voluntary. You know, we know it's volunteering, right, And then I think coach Mack hit the other nail on the head is the reduction. And I don't remember what the number was, but the reduction and missed time would due to injury. It was a significant drop, I think as a big catalyst in that. Let me just say this, when I started out a while back, you know, in nineteen eighty six when our vets, when our team left, when I was with the Bears after the playoffs, we

never saw him again. Until after the draft. They we had no offseason program. We had a universal machine in the basement, but they were all gone on their own. And so that's where the historic workout regimes of Walter Payton and Mike's Singletary and Jerry Rice, all those guys were on their own. They were all on their own

when we started this. Now that involved six weeks of training camp because for the guys that weren't Walter Payton and Mike Singletary and Jerry Rice, some of those guys that hadn't been doing enough, then you had to get them physically ready to play. That's why the training camps were so long. That's not the case anymore. There's too much money, there's too much competition and all you have to do as a VET and the other thing about this,

I think it's important to know. And I'm all for the you know, the vets, the vets doing this, but they've got to understand this. If they're injured out there on their own, then they're responsible, you know, you know for that also, So I think I think a healthy mix of them both is what we will get to.

But it's not something that has not happened before. Mike because I experienced it when I first started in this league thirty five years ago with a very successful team for a long time, and we had no off season for a coach. Dave McGinnis and Rhet Bryant and Amy Wells, I, Mike Keith, we thank you for joining us, for the oaths of the teams, where the legends go. Everybody knows it's our house, Tennessee, making us to read cleanness is meant to be ow. We got tighting butter running through a VSE