Cevin Soling - a Hole In The Head

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And I think the other one is called Spectacle Films. Kevin.

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about yourself. Who is Kevin Soling?

seem to be a perpetual student. I'm working my fourth graduate degree as we speak, so uh And I kind of like the environment because I again I push buttons, and right now, the college environment is such that they need someone there to to push buttons and rankle, you know, just just upset people. And that's that's kind of my mission there.

I going to replace it with? It's like, well, yeah, you're just you're just increasing the suffering by having the system.

And and you know, maybe there are no alternatives, but there are, but you know, it sort of doesn't matter because it's it's it's the harm that the system causes, and people are are willfully and aggressively blind to the harm because they they accept compulsory schooling on how it advertises itself instead of how it actually is, and it doesn't effectively teach it doesn't instill democratic elements that one would want for citizenship because it's it's a despotic environment.

It doesn't promote you know, uh, skills for the workplace because it's not a vocational environment. And it does and socialize children in a healthy way either. You know, bullying is absolutely pervasive. It teaches you know, kids to fear people older than them, you know, and resent you know, people that are younger because everything is age segregated. So it does nothing effectively, nothing well. And it does accept

I guess, promote suicide. And the suicide rate in school and there's a causal relationship between being in school and suicide is freakishly high. When you look at the stats from the Centers for Disease Control, one out of twelve students on average makes an attempt on their life and that's because of compulsory schooling, and one in six seriously considers suicide. And that's not just one study, that's a study that's that's constantly repeated every six years by the

Centers for Disease Control. So not a good place.

This was one year after the Cuban missile crisis. The pilot was filmed. It was actually shot the day that John F. Kennedy was assassinated at the pilot. So if you look at the very introduction of the show, when they they're doing the intro song, you see the the SS Minow hitting the water and there are these flags in Honolulu where it was shot, and the flags are at half mast because you know, the president had just been killed. So if you have to look closely, but

you can see it there. And and the show the the the shipwreck was basically an analogue for for the Holocaust, which was something that was very much on the minds of people at the time. They were building fallout shelters to try to survive nuclear war. And the show is a fantasy, of of of of a post a post apocalyptic fantasy. How how how would we survive nuclear war?

What would the society look like? And the remarkable thing is that that the society that they construct is pure communist And so you have seven Americans, you know, shown constructing this communist society during the height of the Cold war. The convicts take place in most of the episodes is at since the democratic Capitalism rears the ugly head and has the excised at the end of the episode for honey instability to return. So, for instance, they toy with

various things. They decide they don't have a leader, so even though they don't need one and and things are running fine on the island, they decide to elect a president, and naturally, Gilligan ends up winning sort of as the independent candidate. And Gilligan in that episode is depicted as someone who can't even tie his own shoes, and yet

he's He's now president. And the social contract in democracy is that we have to adhere to the results of an election, even if our own survival is at jeopardy. So Gilligan they acknowledge and accept as their leader. They could,

you know, bad decisions could jeopardize their survival. But what happens is is that everyone wants a position on his cabinet because they figure if they're the secretary of defense secretary of labor, they won't have to work, you know, getting getting a cabinet position means that they won't have to pull their weight anymore. So no, you know, so everyone demands a cabinet position. No one wants to work anymore. And it shows how how the institutions create the very

problems that they were designed to solve. They institute a justice system, they introduce you know, a and within minutes everyone is suing one another. Ivon Eliez was this philosopher who basically said that, yeah, the institutions create create the problems that hospitals make people sick, and you know the obviously some people are gonna be sick otherwise, but it magnifies it in the same way the conflicts are magnified by having a justice system, and the alternative is depicted.

There is this ideal communist state, the.

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get or appreciate it. And this way I have no one to answer to as well, so I can make things exactly as I want. And in fact, the project I'm working on right now is one of the first where people have really come to me and offered me money to make it. But they've had all sorts of you know, strings attached, which is understandable, but the things they're asking for are just terrible. There's really bad ideas. But it explained a lot. So the doctum I'm working

now involves the Beatles. It's not specifically, I mean the Beatles are the protagonist in it, but deals with the summer of nineteen sixty six and when there was this huge backlash against the Beatles and the KKK was rallying it every one of their shows and their death threats and bomb threats and you know, so it was and it was just a miserable time in general. But because it was the Beatles, people know that there's a real

market for it. And but if I was going to take the money, and they insisted that I had to do up Connumpery Asers and because they were under the misimpression that that the Beatles weren't a sufficient draw and they wanted, you know, some contemporarial range for for me, I just had to select, you know, they gave me a list of like two hundred people, and I could pick anyone I wanted. But it thought I was doing eight days a week. He didn't up the money for

he was anyone. And you wonder why you're seeing Sigourney Weaver and Whoopee Goldberg in it, who have nothing to do with the Beatles. You know, it's because the same money people who offered me money pays finance Ron Howard, and so Ron Howard had to interview these people, you know, as a condition for the movie, as if, you know, as if the interview with Whoopy Goldberg was going to get more more eyes on the screen than just a

dock on the Beatles alone. But that's, you know, that's how people work.

and Musician magazine. And you know, I've been reading, you know, anytime you know, any Beatle is interviewed, I you know, I pick up whatever magazine, I always you know, read it and generally that the interviewers, you know, had just always asked the same questions, so they're always given the same answers and so tedious and boring and frustrating. But suddenly something came up that had never been mentioned before

by him, and he was talking. McCartney was talking about how he was sitting down one night and Hews having dinner with John Lennon, and Lennon suggested said to Paul, hey, Paul, spec we get holes drilled in our heads. And McCarty's like what, and he goes, oh, yeah, you know, I hear it gets you hide, it expands your consciousness. You know,

let's let's go get it done. And McCartney's like, you're serious, and it's like, I'll tell you what, John, you get it done, and if it's great, you tell me about it and we'll talk about it. You know, McCarty was never going to get a hold drilled in his head, but but Lenin really wanted to. But I was like curious, like, well, what is this that you know that Lenin was reading about and hearing about, Because you know, there's a lot of crazy things going around in the sixties, a lot

of weird ideas. So a few months later I stumbled on this book by Donna Cassy, who's this wonderful writer who did this book called Kook's and it was this this survey of people with all sorts of crazy ideas and and in it she talks about this this concept that about drolling a hole in your head and how it you know, the possible beneficial effects. Well, all the other you know, people that she profiled the book, kouks,

were just crazy people with crazy ideas. But she's like, yeah, this one, actually it's a crazy thing, but it might work. You know, it seems like, you know that there might

be some benefit to it. And that's what got me interested because I'm not interested in just crazy people doing crazy things, and I know there's a market for that, but for me, it was this interest of what if it does ex human potential and maybe there are other ways to go around doing this that aren't as invasive as drilling a hole in your head, or maybe there isn't,

but that got me interested. So I started doing a bunch of research and I found out, you know, the story which I then went to document, and basically, there was this doctor in amsterm Well this sort of goes back actually to the Neolithic era and your ancestors, my ancestors, you know, a fraction of them were drilling holes in their heads. An Anthropologists had been discovering skulls dating back ten thousand years with holes drilled in them, and they

don't know why, the archaeologists, it's a mystery. Now. Now skulls have been found in sixteenth century from sixteenth century Peru with holes in them, and those were done. You know, they know why those were done. And that was done for the same medical reasons we'd do it today, and there was from warfare. They would club one another in the head and if the skull got cracked, you know, could lead to atoma. So you drill a hole to relieve the pressure so that there's less pressure on the brain.

And you know, for medical reasons, well, these were pristine skulls. There was no sign of trauma on the skull. And they can tell by by you know, the whole changes over time. If the hole is is if the hole is cut on a on a you know, just a skull, it's it's a clean cut. But if you live for many years, there's something called ossification where the rim of the hole it heals, but it never fills in, you know,

just it gets smoother over time. So they can tell by looking at the hole by the ossification that the that these people lived many years with a hole in their head, that these were done while they alive. So cut to the nineteen sixties, this doctor bart Hughes, this Dutch doctor comes up with this theory that if that if you drill a hole in your head, that it could lead to this perpetual state of increased brain blood volume.

That that when every time your heart beats, blood gets pushed out, you know, to all part you know, to your extremities, including your brain, and there's pulsations in your brain and if you look at an fMRI, you can see your brain pulsating in the image. Well, well R. Hughes believes that that that the degree the magnitude by which that expansion you know that your brain expands is limited by the threebro spinal fluid that surrounds your brain.

And then if you if you cut a hole, it'll allow for more space for the supreebroose spinal fluid to get pressed out, and you'll have more brain blood volume, leading to more oxygen and glucose to your brain, which is what your brain feeds on in greater brain metabolism. So he tested his theory by drilling a hole, or he decided he d d But and this was sixteen this who have happened the space in downtown Now people sings and Elfie, that's the great cumentary of of all

the wide things that were going on. But so he staged his own self treponnasic event in the public square and and he drilled a hole into his own head and he believed it had the desired effects.

considered mutilation and and and doctors can't perform it. So so doctors around the world are not legally permitted to perform trepanation. So if you're going to get it done, you have to do it to yourself because you can't get someone else to do, you know, to you.

which which wasn't known. I mean, it's you know, it seems logical to assume that perhaps, but he knew and he identified that the the chemical that would most you know, be most attractive is in apple acid and uh and and so he developed his own successful form of birth

control that could be distributed throughout the third world. That would involve basically a woman placing a small sliver of apple within you know, herself that would you know, could stay there for a couple of weeks, and you know, and and wouldn't be noticed because you just you know, you just become acclimated. And because of the greater concentration within the sliver of apple. Uh, you know, it would

basically be an effective form of birth control. And so it seems he was you know, I haven't there haven't been studies on that approaches birth control, but there have been, you know, studies and researchers. He researched many years later about uh, you know, his his his identification which you know, completely nothing to do with trepanation. But but fascinating. Nonetheless, and and you know, kind of kind of remarkable.

But uh but you know, give give them, give the man credit where credit is due.

brilliance I think is especially meaningful. But the so after after he drilled a hole it, he wrote about his findings that it attracted the interest of a number of students from Oxford. Uh. And so they they came to to the name Joseph Mellon and Amanda Fielding and they were I think they got formally married. I don't know if they were married at that time, but they they went to to Amstram met with him. They both were like, yeah,

this this seems to make a lot of sense. So first Joey Mellon made an attempt to drill a hole in his head using a it's kind of like a handheld quarkscrew, but it's a hand trap hand so you know, it's it's got like a piece of wood that you would grip with your hand and then where the screw part would be for the quarkscrew instead of being a quark screw, it's it's like a circular you know, tooth saw bit so so you push down on your skull the saw teeth, you know, carve a circle into your head.

But you know, he used a local anesthetic and he dropped acid and went about, you know, pushing and twisting and twisting, and it took three attempts, three to three separate days before he finally got through. But he wrote a book called Borehole, which which describes in very very gory detailed process of of of cutting the hole in

his head. And it's it's it's absolutely wonderfully gruesome, you know, he because because like the the the bone, the skull you know, kind of splinters, and he talks about trying and cracking the little you know, splintered pieces with like a cocktail for it, you know, to to try to you know, you get through. Yeah, it's it's, it's, it's it's gruesome.

over the goggles. And she cuts her hair, you know, because because you got to do it in front of

a mirror, because you're doing it to yourself. And she takes the dentist roll up and she puts it into her her, you know, forehead or slightly above her forehead, and drills and drills and drills, and just she's wearing a white gown and and and just the blood is just us pouring and pouring and pouring, and you know, and she looks kind of alien with her face all covered with the dried blood and and new fresh blood pouring down over the goggles and and and covered and

it's it's uh. But but there's there's other parts of the movie which she narrates. And she has this this pigeon that she named pigeon that it was imprinted on her, you know, was she And and so it follows her everywhere, and and it flew to her on command, and would fly away on command. And and so when the bird flies back, it's supposed to be like this restoration of wisdom,

you know, from when she finally gets through. But she she showed the film just once at the London I c A. And Berta Lucci, Bernardo Berta Ucci happened to be in the audience and and and described it, you know, said it was it was the greatest movie ever made as far as he was concerned. And he was he

was quite sincere when he when he said it. But there was a reporter there who described all all the people who were in attendance as or many of them as falling off their chairs like overright plumbs, you know, just passing out from the from the gore. But she she succeeded to get through. And and you know, Felt was very happy with the results, and and and the results are basically this. It's when when when all of

us are children, you know, our skull gets larger. If you look at you know, they are your head versus a baby or toddler. You know, our heads are much larger. And the reason is is is because if what enables the skull to grow, it consists of of several pieces of bone called fontanelle. And so these these the fontanelle, are separate pieces. When you're about the age of eighteen, the suits, your seal and all that are floating fontanelle solidified to become one bone called which is the skull.

But before then it's it's you do not have a it's not quite solid, you know, so that it can you know, you so that your head can get larger. Otherwise, yeah, we'd never get through the birth canal. So, uh, the the drilling of the whole is supposed to be this restoration of that state of consciousness that we all had as as children. You know, where there's there's this decrease in anxiety, there's increase in energy. Uh, there there's more elasticity.

Uh So, so there's there's greater potential for learning and learning at a much more rapid pace. Uh So, so it's uh, you know, and and there's also a different type of uh connection. There's there's sort of a you know, a natural high of sorts of of being, you know, an adolescent that that we lose at that moment of of of adulthood. And and so so they describe but treporation as a restoration of of of something that we once had, of of of this of this state of consciousness.

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hole in your head. No, it's to get an enlightenment and wisdom and all kinds of stuff, more energy and childlike wonder. I guess now, Kevin, this is where the expression comes from. I need that like a hole in the head.

England who ended up drilling holes in their heads. And then it sort of you know, there was an American Peter Halverson, who was one of the first here to drill you know, maybe the first, you know, to drill a hole in his head, at least for that purpose. And Amanda later got remarried to Lord James need Path and he's a professor at Oxford I guess now emeritis.

And he taught international relations to Bill Clinton when Bill Clinton was a student at Oxford, when he was a Rhodes scholar, So he had Bill Clinton as a as a student. And it was funny because the National Choir actually published a story after my film came out. They they that, how you know, Bill Clinton's professor has a hole in his head, and it was like, yeah, it was all true. Everything that was that was there. So

it was pretty it was pretty amusing. But he's, uh, he's the largest, you know, one of the largest landholders in Scotland and uh and and he was one who who attested to uh uh you know, to to Bart Hughes and and actually you know, called him a genius and uh, you know, like I said, an Oxford professor. So he's he's uh kind of impressive. But so so it turned into, you know, to kind of a movement, and finally it resulted in all all along they'd been

wanting research done. And there was a Russian physiologist, Yuri Muskolenko, who published research evaluating the efficacy of of trepanation and whether it would lead to increased brain blood volume, and his research seemed to indicate that that it does. I'd feel more comfortable with more research, but it's it's certainly a step in the right direction toward affirming their their their assertions. New scientists did review the study and gave

it their blessing, thought that the protocol was sound. But you know, it's it's that things are always open to more research. But you know, there there it is indicative that there there is there is reason to believe that

there might be a benefit. And when John Lennon was in Amsterdam when he was honeymooning with with Yoko Ona when he got married, he was still with the Beatles, he called to meet with with Bart Hughes, and he kept telling Bart that he wanted to get you know, the doctor, that he wanted to get his head drilled, and and the doctor said, don't, don't do it. And the reason he told Lenin not to do it is is that about eight percent or so of the population

have what's called a mytopic skull. And a mytopic skull is when the sutures on the on the fontinelle don't seal perfectly and you have a natural hole in your head, you know, just there's a you know, slightly off what you know, when when the when the sutures seal, and and so there's a there's a small percentage of people and and Bart Hughes was, you know, was certain that John Lennon. In order for him and the other Beatles to have accomplished all the things they did, they must

have natural holes in their heads. So, uh, which is kind of funny. So so he was he was adamant that Lenin shoudn't shouldn't drill a hole in his head because it wouldn't it wouldn't accomplish anything. But the trepidation was a procedure that that did persist, you know, back from ten thousand years and and and and the ancient

Greece Hypocrates wrote about his his procedure and process. I mean there's there's modern day we know why, you know, why it was done, we know, you know Apocrates and why these other people were you know, we're doing it.

But it had been attempted on, you know, for different reasons in the Middle Ages, and there was an effort in the Middle Ages to try you seeing as a cure for insanity and mental illness is you know, continues to be and has always been an issue for you know, how how do we deal with this and how do

we treat this? And uh, you know, there there have been all sorts of on you know, unsavory, unpleasant and you know, inappropriate efforts to address it, and one was this curiosity to see, well, if trepor nation is beneficial, how you know, will it will it help people who are you know, who have mental health issues? Uh? And didn't And so when it when it became associate crazy back then, and then you know, because it wasn't effective at treating insanity, and you know, people who were insane,

we're you know, had holes in their head. The practice, you know, fell out of favor and and got that expression I need need it like a hole in the head. The whole, the whole notion that people commonly tell me is like, oh, people were get to read spirits and stuff, and that's that's that's really true. I mean it's like when if you take antiocidis or something like that, very you know would say that they do it to clear toxins out the body. You know, so you have an

issue of semantics. You could say toxins or evil spirits or maybe you know, years from now referring back then, I was like, oh, he took vitamin C, you know, because of evil spirit and the top. So yeah, there, I mean, there's a reason to infantilize some of the medicine,

but not not all. I mean, it's there. There is a tendency to you know, to to to look down to see a little touch at in history and you know see other been some some dumb mistakes, but they weren't really much dumber than we are today.

one of two things. Either the holes, you know, I mean he liked to conclude that the holes enabled them to be top you know, the top classes. But but I I don't know how much social mobility there was back then. You know, it could be that the people who were the top classes with vendril holes in their heads, you know, as some art of you know, some affectation of being a top class. So we don't, we don't really know. It's not it's not all that conclusive, I

don't think. But but he he seemed to think that it that it was the this, you know, the the greater skill set that they you know, got from drilling a hole in their head, that that resulted in it. But I'm you know, I think it's it's a hard conclusion to come to.

aware that this was going on. I just had, you know, there was a was Peter Halverson, who I was filming, asked if some people could stay. And it wasn't like I was facilitating any anything really nefarious or anything, but they were, uh there were there was a doctor in Mexico who was illegally performing trepanations and uh so Peter, you know, was was sending them to to Mexico to this doctor, people who wanted it done. You know, he wasn't you know, you couldn't say that he was facilitating.

You know, he was people who wanted it. He was allowing them to pursue and giving them information. And there's nothing illegal about giving information that's protected in her First Amendment. So uh so, so you know, so, so I was aware of quite a number of people who were under the radar, who were who were going off to Mexico to meet with this doctor. And then the Mexican government found out about it and threatened to revoke his his license. So by and large, you know, people tend to do

it to themselves for that reason. But you know, it's obviously you know, if if you're going to do it, which I'm not advocating. If you're going to do it, yes, it's best to have to have a doctor.

hel over. But yeah, you need to make sure everything is sterile and adhere to all sorts of proper procedures as far as echoes, you don't get an infection. And and you don't want to drill into the brain. If you drill into the brain, you will die, right and you know, and and so you know, uh, that happened once. It was someone someone I think in Cardiff, someone in England, northern England, Uh who who who died as as a result.

But that's you know, as far as modern instances, that's that's been pretty rare fortunately, and sims can happen and you don't want to risk it and.

and cutting into a square basically into the skull. And that that seems particularly I mean, all the methods are kind of gruesome. Cutting seems pretty horrible. Uh. Another is is scraping, which is you know kind of like you can imagine you're just scraping layer and layer and layer of the skull bone until you scrape through the skull and and form a hole that way. You know. Then there's uh basic chisel you hammer and chisel, and then

there's various forms of drilling. So h yeah, the keysy they they I think they used the cutting method, and uh it's you know, it takes a while, it takes hours, to get through and it's you know, the whole is you know, can be quite large. Uh you know that method and they ye know, they do it for various sort of you know, medical reasons of sorts. You know, persistent headaches. Yeah, I'm not sure you know how how it helps you know.

anyone drilling a hole in their head. And this is you know, before any research was done, and I'm sure they'd still be skeptical of the research that has been done since. But but all your own therapy was was was a shocker because all the doctors and everyone I talked to, you know, we're kind of you know, accepting that this that there are medical benefits that it does seem to boost the immune system. It is urine, is

is sterile. It has trace amounts of ammonia in it, so it kills off any bacteria and anything that's that's in your urine. I guess the the the amounts are small enough that that it doesn't present a health risk because obviously you don't want to drink ammonia. And Gandhi practice urine therapy and it's fairly common in India. I mean generally places where were water water sources are scarce. Uh, it's going to be practiced. Uh, you know, for obvious reasons.

It's safe and you need to stay hydrated. I know the Catholic Church in Mexico was allowing their nuns that were in remote regions to promote urine therapy. That was in the film. Uh. The shocking things that were in the film was that there are certain medications. Uh, uricinase and primarole are two medicines that are made from urine. Urkinase is made from human urine and primarole from horse urine, and their their heart medicines, and uh uh the way they this was was kind of fun. The way they

collect urine for uricinase is from portapatties. So when you pee in a your your wort of urine is getting collected in many situations, many circumstances, and as being being used for for very purposes, including including making medication.

But but but you know, it did result there there were there were fifteen different factioning tribes on the island, and I was directly and you know, responsible for uniting

those those tribes. And I also helped excise the Vietnamese mafia was you know, had a real presence on the island, and I helped basically you know, get them off the island and and and their their influence and uh you know so so I I, you know, I was you know, I I did lead to a lot of positive changes the the that that tribe ended up becoming a political party as well. And while they there's a there's a key distinction between the tribal chiefdom, you know, and and

ruling certain things that take place within the tribe. But

then public goods are ruled by the government. So there's I guess sort of a private sector and a public sector, and they never were involved in the public sector before that was that was you know, the government, you know, would would control what took place on the island as it related to the outs side world as a result, related to UH development, UH, infrastructure, things of that nature that would directly affect their lives, but but outside of

their jurisdiction. UH. Once they became a political party with you know, through my involvement, UH, they then were able to take control and become elected into you know, roles of leadership where they have greater control over their own lives and the decisions that affect them.

spelled with the sea. So yeah, so it's about it's about my time and you know, visiting and the conflicts and I mean, you know that the summary I gave is really brief, and there's a lot more drama there and it's it's it's there's some pretty intense times there where where you know, it looked like things you know were yeah, that the government, the the you know, had threatened me, and it was it was kind of intense.

Who's an incredible film? A Hole in Your Head is an incredible film. I've watched both of these. This is great stuff, man, and I always tell us about this out. I haven't seen the Urine one. I haven't seen the other one about the prophecy. But also Ickland Ickland, what is this thing? The Eckland tribe?

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