43. Phil’s Shameless Plugs Part 2

This is the second half of Abby’s interview with Phil. He discusses his first time doing burlesque and how he felt after. Abby explains her thoughts on going to a burlesque class and how she likes to be sexy on her own terms. Abby and Phil discuss body positivity vs body neutrality. They discuss when they feel most like themselves. Phil confirms that no grown man wants to be just your friend. Phil’s Ope Story involves a crazy college night.