Dale Partridge

have instead of what we do. We think things that hold us back and dampen our spirit. But it's not just about thinking. Our actions matter. It takes conscious, consistent and creative effort to make a life worth living. This podcast is about how other people keep themselves moving in the right direction, how they feed their good wolf. Thanks for joining us. Our guest today is Dale Partridge, a serial entrepreneur and CEO, co founder of sevenly dot org

and start up camp dot com. In less than two years, Sevenly has given over two point seven million dollars in donations to charities across the globe. Dale is best known for his expertise in branding marketing and social media. He started his first company while still a teenager and has partnered and launched a few successful organizations since. His mission

is to lead a generation towards generosity. Dale has been featured in various business publications, including the cover of Entrepreneur Magazine, I n C Magazine, Mashable, MSN Money, Forbes, and The Los Angeles Times. His personal mission is to lead a generation towards generosity and empower business leaders through the philosophy to you that people matter. His latest book is called People Over Profit. Here's the interview. Hi Dale, Welcome to

the show. Dude, Super excited to be here, my friend. I'm very happy to have you on. We've had a little challenge scheduling this, and you've got a lot of we share some people in common who all highly recommended me having you on. So I'm glad that we're finally getting to do this. Thanks man. Yeah, I think we're you know, for anybody that's listening, we're recording this on a Sunday night, so we're like, that's how that's how dedicated we are um to this to this show tonight yep, yep,

Sunday night, nine pm. So our show is called the One You Feed. And it's based on the parable of two wolves, where there's a grandfather who's talking with his grandson and he says, in life, there are two wolves inside of us that are always at battle. One is a good wolf, which represents things like kindness and bravery and love, and the other is a bad wolf, which represents things like greed and hatred and fear. And the grandson stops and he thinks about it for a second.

He looks up as grandfather and he says, well, grandfather, which one wins? And the grandfather says, the one you feed. So I'd like to start off by asking you what that parable means to you in your life and in

the work that you do. That's a great story because I think that I would look at history, and history shows us that that love always wins, and that truth always wins, and that you know, transparency and generosity and authenticity and these things that that really are at the core of of life, meaning that the things that we

struggle with most of our lives. And it's funny because I think so many people are looking, especially business people, are looking for like the next strategies and tactics in like the Harvard Business Review, and uh, most of us uh that have succeeded very well in not just business life, but in our personal lives have leaned more on the lessons that we were taught in kindergarten, which is, you know, to to love people, to to be kind, um, to share,

you know, and to tell the truth. And it's these things that we struggle with as humans for like our whole lives. I'm talking like I'm thirty years old and I'll still sometimes tell my wife that I'm around the corner when I'm like eight minutes away, you know, and it's this, it's this like I don't know why I can't stop exaggerating, and I don't know why I can't like be comfortable in my own skin, and I don't

know why I hide things sometimes. And um, So I think that at the end of the day, history just shows us that that love always wins and truth wins. And I think that if we if we can stand with that side, uh, we know that we're gonna we know that we're gonna win two at the end. Well, You've got a book coming out called People Over Profit, Break the System, Live with Purpose, Be more successful that I think really touches on some of that. It's sort

of a feeding your good wolf. In the Business World book for lack of a better analogy, and you talk about seven core beliefs that creates success by putting people first. Do you want to maybe talk about a couple of those and how they, you know, get in because I think these are around feeding other people's wolves. Also, yeah, totally. So I you know, as a business guy, I'm sitting there and I'm going, okay, you know who's winning in the business space? I mean, and I remember, there's no

bad companies, There's only bad leaders. And so I sat back and I go, Okay, who are the good companies? Because that means that they have great leaders? And so I look at companies like Whole Foods and and r I and um and In and out Burger and Chick fil a, uh and maybe um Ben and Jerry's and Patagonia and north Face. Some of these outdoor brands especially kind of have this this sense. And and I look at their leaders and I go like, what are they doing?

You know, what what are what are those men or women's there's actually a couple of those CEOs that are women. I go, what are they doing. And um, I I looked and I studied their businesses for for a few years and read tons of articles and actually got some good interviews with some people. I found out, uh that those people are just very what I call constitutionally incapable of breaking away from these core beliefs. And they have the ability to value people. And um, they have this

humility about themselves. They have this generosity and this authenticity and this ability to to tell the truth or like honest abe level truth. I mean, they just can't lie. And and they have this integrity about themselves that that is very rare. And they think about business not out of the you know, they don't think of their their businesses as as parts of a machine or their employees as parts of a machine, but people. And it's something

that they don't have written in their business plans. They don't have it on like you know, tattooed on the walls and their HQ, they don't have it like in their mission statement. They just have this like this thread of commonality between all these leaders that that have the ability to value people over profit, which makes their companies more profitable. And um, remember it, you know in the

books not called people instead of profit. Right. I'm not a communist, right, So it's it's the idea is that that if you value people over profit, you'll actually be more profitable because your company is healthier, your culture is healthier, and people work harder when they feel more valued. And um, So I started studying these men and women, and um, it was just incredible to see, Uh, some of the stories and some of the insights. Um that they were

just dedicated to the simple things. Like I talked about earlier, is that these truths that have always won across history, and they're just better at it than most people. They're they're they're just dedicated, like fanatically dedicated to integrity and um. You know, they tell the lie even if are they tell the truth even if it hurts right, they admit when they're wrong. They they value people when it costs them money. Um. You know, they they give in the

sight of like not a practical decision. You know, they are very true to themselves even if people don't like it. You know, there's so many unique things there. So I think that that it's really the books a study of of the success of business. But if you go dig dig deeper, it's it's a success of it's the personal development of of like the greatest leaders on the planet and um and and remember, like we we look at

people all the time. I remember Eric, I used to sit back and look at Okay, who should I start following? And I based that off of like how much money they made or how successful their company was. I don't do that anymore. I don't follow people unless I can look at their lives and I go, Okay, they're winning

in business, they're winning in family, they're winning in relationships. Um. And those people are very rare, like if they're healthy, they have a really great relationship with their children, they have an incredible marriage. Uh they have there and they're also on top of it, you know, running a multimillion dollar company. They're they're very rare people. And and those well that can do that well, I think we have something to learn from. I agree. I mean getting all

those different things working well together is really a challenge. Oh, it's so crazy. My my the chairman of my my past company, I'm still a co owner, uh sevenly dot Org. His name's Jim Van Earden and he um, you know, he's been a great businessman. He's also got ten children, UM, a marriage of you know, thirty years, and his children

respect him and love him and care for him. And and he's he's still travels and maintains this and runs these companies and and his marriage is just flourishing and and and his relationships are strong and and he's constantly like consistent, you know. And I'm like, dude, all I want to do is just end up like that, you know,

And so I'm trying to. I've surrounded myself with a couple of these men and UM, and my wife has surrounded herself with a cup all of these women, and we learned like whoa like because I grew up in southern California where this is just a rare thing. You know, you're really good at business and your family's fallen apart, you know, or you're really good a family and you're broke,

you know. So it's it's this balance that I'm looking for and UM, and I think that's kind of what what people need to start searching for more than just go deeper besides the professional and financial success. Well, let's talk a minute about when you were running your company. You ran into some challenges there that caused you to step back and re evaluate what you were doing. And I think that's part of what led you to write in this book and uh doing the start up camp

that you're doing. Now, do you want to share a little bit about how the company was going and what happened with you and the changes you needed to make? Yeah? So, I mean, you know, Eric, at the core, I'm a ruthless entrepreneur and which probably makes me very qualified to write this book because I've learned the lessons that I've

written about over the years. Um to uh to change, because um, I want to win, and I'm incredibly competitive, and I'm addicted to success and I'm addicted to achievement. And I remember, um, you know, Sevenly was my sixth or seventh company. Uh we you know, I had started multiple things by the time I was twenty six years old and made uh you know, a few million dollars. I had some really great success and and um, I started Sevenly and it was a great experience to blend

purpose and profit. I was like, oh my gosh, this is it. Like this is what I really want. That's what I thought, right. I was like, this is what I really want, like to to change the world. And we raised, you know, four point two million dollars now and seven dollar donations, and I mean literally, and when I look back at it, I go, man, like the money that we've given to charity, there's quite literally people that probably wouldn't be alive if we hadn't started the company.

And and I always asked myself the question, like, I go, what if we didn't? You know, like for for those of you that are dreaming out there, that have dreams, I'll tell you this from personal experience. You have no idea the impact of the dream that you might have

on someone else. So so like if you're if you're fearful of starting, uh, just know that I never knew that I would be giving four point two million dollars away to to charities and and feeding people and rescuing girls from sex trafficking, and and building wells and and stopping bullying and and and all the other things that we've supported. But the company grew very quick, and this is the first time that I realized that companies can grow faster than people can. And that was a really

interesting learning experience to go. Man, we went from zero to like fifty employees in two and a half years, and I had a multi hundred thousand dollar every two week payroll that was incredibly stressful at twenties seven years old. And um, and I had people that work for me. There were forty and that had kids than a wife, and and I'm thinking, gosh, like, what a what a unique experience this was. And I grew a lot. I mean, I read more books than I probably have ever done

in my whole life. I mean, I spent so much mentorship with with different people, and went through coaching courses and and um, you know what, I just couldn't keep up. And I realized also that that I'm a creative entrepreneur. I'm I love the vision and and I needed a staff my weaknesses because I couldn't operate. I was not an operator. And you give me ten to fifteen employees, and like, I'm in like I could totally run that.

But when it starts getting to the point where you walk in your office and there's people that are working there that you didn't hire and you have no idea who they are, it's it's a weird thing because you go, man, like, this thing is so much bigger than me now. And that was hard for me. And I remember wanting so badly to be the San Francisco VC, like like raising multimillions of dollars and being on the covers of magazines

and like turning into this like prodigy entrepreneur. And I had all the characteristics for it, but the ability to stay sane while doing it. And um, one of my favorite quotes is, do you remember who you were before the world taught you who you should be? And uh, I didn't. I literally didn't. I I was so focused on like achieving this success that I didn't care. And I put my my family and myself at the back

burner for a long time. And um, I remember I got to a point where to start having anxiety, like I just couldn't handle the stress and the pressure. And I didn't want to tell anybody, like would it would show weakness in my investors, it would show weakness to my staff, and and so I just like stuffed it down.

And I was like panicking all the time and like walking out and like I literally be in a meeting and then I would jump out and like run into a closet and like and like take deep breaths, like trying to like get my composure back, and and um, and you know, being a CEO is a real deal, like a CEO of a of a seriously large company, like anything over ten fifteen employees. It's a really hard stress. And I started having insomnia even like, um, and I

still fought through it. I mean, I was still working hard. Like that's the that's the crazy thing is that I was still running the company. I wasn't just like bailing, you know. And uh, you know, insomnia and anxiety and panic attacks and and I I I actually remember my wife started having them at the same time, so we

were both going through this. This is craziness. I remember a time that I was sitting on the bed with her and she was having a panic attack or she just finished having a panic attack, and she was so frustrated with them that she was like suicidal thought thinking like she was she was so I couldn't leave her alone, like I had to literally take her to work with

me every day. And and I remember like fighting off my own anxiety at the same time coaching her through the you know, the coaching her through why like why she should live. I mean it was it was incredibly brutal and um and we we said, hey, it's time to change and UM among a lot of other variables in the situation. And I said, hey, you know, I think maybe it's getting close for me to step down as CEO, and my I think my my partners and

stuff are kind of ready for it as well. There threat thinking like Dale, you you kind of need a break. And so I stepped down in UM after about two and a half years of running the company, and my wife and I we just made a ton of changes.

I mean, like we made changes like this is the thing is that we also had the blessing of being able to make the change right like, because a lot of people don't have the ability, they don't have the money, they don't have the the the resources to like make changes.

And um, we actually bought we sold our our house, like forced us to drive in traffic everywhere, and um, we we bought a house in the mountains, um outside of l A. And then we like in the mountains like six thousand foot elevation, like little cabin and then we we rented a little house at the beach, and we split our time between the two of them, so we got you know, got some more peace and quiet. We we started exercising, We we started um, getting back

into our faith a little bit. We we started eating healthier. Um, we started, uh, you know, reducing our commitments. Um. Two people and and and just try to to figure out, Okay, we gotta serve ourselves because I think as people that we don't always remember that we have needs. Also, especially as leaders. If you're a leader and you're listening, Um, often times we we are serving. We're I'm like, my life is so good, is what I'm thinking. That, Like,

I don't need anything. You know, I'm the CEO, and I mean I'm I'm successful, I'm I have a good amount of wealth and and I'm so you know, have this great wife in this house and all these things. Like I'm thinking, the last thing I want to do is tell anybody that I need something. That's a massive mistake. Um, Because it doesn't matter who you are. I don't care how successful you are, Like you still need you still

sometimes be able to go. You know, I need you to tell me that it's gonna be okay, Like I need you to tell me that you love me, Like I need you to tell me that even if I screw up, You're still gonna love me. You know, you're still gonna be my friend, um, whether I'm not the CEO here, and I think enough of that as leaders when you go you know what, hey man, if you fail, like, I'm still gonna like you and we need more of that.

So so I we jumped into that season and UM, and eventually started redefining like what did we really want? You know, like who were worried before the world taught us who we should be? And uh, and that was the kind the journey that we've been on ever since. How has the anxiety and insomnia been for you as you've made those changes? Nothing changes fast, right, So the way I've learned about it is that um, and I've

struggled with anxiety at various levels for ten years now. Um, when you start getting anxious, it's because of the things you were doing weeks ago, right, so like you know, it's the pressure that's been building up for weeks two months, and that's your you know, that's that's like what I say is like it's God's way of saying, like this is your breaking point and like chill out, and um, the problem is that most people can't chill out right, Like they got to go to work the next morning.

You know, and and so what do they do. They take drugs, And my wife and I just decided, like, we're gonna do this without drugs. I mean, I'm not like, I'm not, um, you know, shaming anybody that has taken them.

But we wanted to do it without drugs. We didn't want to get on anti anxiety medicines or or um, you know, sleep medicines or different things, because you get really dependent on that stuff, you know, And I think that it changes a lot of the way you are, but you have to do it sometimes because you know that that's just the only way. And um, so we we, uh, we started noticing that, you know, even if we stop and start calming down now, it's not gonna we're still

going to be anxious. Like it's gonna take it's gonna take a few weeks two months to like start letting that calmness catch up with us. So we had to be patient in that. And um, and we started making progress, man, like it was great. We started like, wow, We're started having our lives back again and our thoughts back again, and and um and I had to start replacing lies

with truth. And UM, I think that a lot of the lies and we worry, you know, like there's you know, um, I mean, I'm a Christian guy, but you know, whether you're a Christian or not, I think the idea is that there's there's a there's a quote in the Scriptures that says, um, you know, what is worrying going to do to add a single minute to your life? You know, it doesn't do anything right, Like worrying is like at the end of the day, it's there's just no there's

no point of it. I mean, sure there's there's there's an importance if you actually have something that's like urgent and you need to go to it. But most of the worrying we do, of the worrying we do is just it's just worthless. So I stopped worrying, and um, and and my wife and I kind of just came out of the hole. And uh, and we said we're never going to go back. And so we had to

define what does that look like. And I mean in the book and People of a Profit, I talk a little bit about our story and and that process and and and how it relates to work. Um. Because I think that people think that, you know, the most dangerous person in the world is the guy that goes, hey, man, dude, it's no personal, it's just business. Like. No, now everything

is personal. Uh, you're you're you're a dangerous person the person that says that, right, And um so I I I looked at people of a profit and the book is this, like this is the result of my internal change and and how you can kind of create companies that are really who you are. Um So, yes, So now I'm on this journey of of Uh instead of having big companies, I want to do the highest amount of revenue, least amount of employees, and be able to live anywhere I want. Um So, those are the rules

that we put in. So we wanted to have um you know, an online membership business was the business for us, and we had to think about that and we go So we started a business called startup camp dot com where um I would actually credit a twelve month curriculum on teaching people how to start a business, you know,

from start to finish. And uh, it's been great, and it's it's been it's been still incredibly difficult and stressful, but not near early as stressful because it's more me, you know, it's more me, and and uh, you know, it's we have we have two employees. Um you know, we have uh something members now and paying a month. And the result of this, of this company that actually fits with who we are is so much better. We're

so much happier. And so businessmen and women out there leaders, you know, don't just chase something because it makes money. Don't just chase something because you can be successful from it. Um, chase something that is actually you and also successful and can make you money. Because I'll tell you what I've made. I've made lots of money, and at the end of the day, I would rather be making a little bit of money and happy than making a ton of money and where I was. Um, So that that's been my

my theories. It's just somewhere where you love who you are. Because this this isn't rehearsal, right, I mean Eric, you know this, like this isn't rehearsal Like you're not Like this isn't just like version one of life and you get your second life later, like this is it, you know right here, So like don't wait on those decisions like this is life. Like you're in your twenties or thirties or forties, like make those decisions now, yep, exactly. One of the things that I think ties a little

bit into this. And I saw it was something that you had written recently and you talked about and this is a thing that comes up a lot in my mind, and we talked about a lot. But the I will be happy when syndrome? Can you elaborate a little bit

on that? Oh man? Yeah, I uh, when you when you say I'll be happy when, um, it's incredibly dangerous because joy should has nothing to do with your circumstances, has nothing I mean, I mean, your joy should not be affected by anything that you live on like you could. You should be able to be in jail have the same amount of joy that you have today. And that's a harsh statement in a in a very you know,

extreme you know circumstances. But what I'm saying is that that um joy comes from from like a heart of of contentment. It comes from looking at your life and gratefulness and gratitude and and so I um, I often tell people just just you know, when you go to bed every day, just like look at the things of your life, like you're healthy, Like there's so many And maybe this helped me a lot because of sevenly, I got a chance to see some of the most unfortunate

people in the world. And so we live in the covetousness era, right like where you're just like constantly coveting like other people's stuff. And I do it too, Like it's you know, I look at someone's life and I'm like, dang, man, like look at their life, like you know, he's got so much freedom and look he said he made the cover, he got a New York Times bestseller, Like, oh, like I want that, you know, and um that's I mean, our social media feeds are the highlight reels of our life.

It's like we almost do it to make people jell us right, like like we put this this picture out and they're like, oh man, people are gonna like this photo because they're gonna like they're gonna want my life. Man, they're gonna want my life, and we love it. We were gonna eight hundred likes in the photo and they go, yeah, man, those people are jealous that they're not me. You know, it's really sick. And um so uh yeah, I think that,

you know, money is never gonna make us happy. I mean, sure, there's that, there's that documentary Happy Right that talks about like, you know, money makes you happy until you know about fifty tho dollars a year, you know, and once you have enough to like cover your basic needs, money makes no difference on happiness. But if you if you if you're you're making twelve tho dollars a year and you need to make forty, you know, you're you're pretty unhappy

because you don't have enough money. But once you get there,

you're you're definitely happy enough. So I mean, I'll tell you, you you know, we we've been able to make um, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and I've listened to the lie before that that money making more money is gonna make me happier, and and it my wife comes up to me, tells me, She goes, you know, I just want to let you know, dale, Um, you know you don't need to work more like like like I'm okay, Like you don't like I know you're

you're hustling theale Like I know you're hustling. I know you're doing the next thing, but like you're doing it for you, You're not for me, you know, Like I just want you to know that, and I remember her saying that to me. I'm thinking, like, like she's happy, like if we made sixty dollars a year, like has nothing. Her love for me has nothing to do with how much money will make, and her love for our life

has nothing to do with that either. And um so just there's a lot of that stuff there that just you know, trying to figure out how what what it means to be content. And you know, for us, I'll tell one last story. What we've done, Eric is we've kind of made a decision that find this number yet, but we're we're getting close to this number. We go, what number do we need? And because every time we get to a number, I mean, we go, oh, you know, two,

you know, I think that we actually need more. So three, oh, I think we need more. And dude, that is a dangerous road, my friend, because the people that get up to a million, they, oh, we just need a little bit more, like you don't need more. Yeah, it never

ends if you're in that mindset, it never ends. So we're trying to figure out that number for our family where we go, hey, you know what, any money that we make this year past this number, we're either going to give it away or we're gonna put it in a foundation for our children. That's it. And um because there is a there is safety in that if you can, if you're open enough or um mature enough to to

listen to that message, their safety in that. And UM and you need to find that number for your family. I think would be a good exercise for for a lot of people. That mindset of I'll be happy when is that? The core problem with it is that it ever ends. It's always the next thing. At least that's

been my experience. Is that I think that this is the thing that will make me happy, and I get there and I don't feel happier, And instead of questioning the entire mindset, I just think, oh, well, it wasn't that thing. It must surely be the next thing on the road. And it's it's insidious. We have to remember like at the end of the day, right, we're gonna we're gonna die, and we're gonna sit there at You know,

this is one thing I always tell people. You know, the average age blended men and women is about eighty years old today. So you know, I'm thirty, so I got fifty years left. Right, This is that's it. You know, Eric, hell do you forty four? Forty four? Right? So so you got potentially thirty five years left, right, And and you think about that and you go, no one on their deathbed because there's tons of research projects and studies that goes, um, they go, you know, uh, what would

you have done more? And nobody says I would have worked more? You know. Um. You know one of my favorite quotes is you don't get too busy making a living that you forget to make a life. And yeah, so it's it's the relationships that count. And and I really hammer on that part in the book. I talked about like like relationships are the things that matter. That's why we're choosing people over profit. Because at the end of the day, sure, you built a great company, but

everybody hates you. Um, there's nothing valuable about there's no legacy and and um, and or you were so busy that you forgot to make friends. You know, you're so busy, And sure there's I'm all about having a season of business, like you might have a six month Like I'm writing this book and then getting it marketed and putting it out there. I'm way busier than I than I like to be. But once we're done with this, I'm going to take a big break and I'm not going to

be busy for another year. And um, so we gotta do that because at the end of the day, like the relationships that we make are really the only things that matter, um, and it's the it's the only influence that that those people are gonna have on their children and their children and their children. So so like just focusing on the things that really matter, because money is important, but it's it's it's not any it's not everything, right,

it is certainly not. But boy is it bo where we culturally taught something different and that that idea that it is money runs so deep. Oh and and fame and influence and um and things you know. Um, I watched this video today on YouTube of this couple. I follow somebody that took photos of this couple and they're like a young model couple. They both have like a million followers on their Instagram account and they're both incredibly

good looking. And they did these videos of like they travel somewhere and they have this like they're in helicopters and skydiving together and then like snowboarding and then like doing all these crazy things and it's got like three million views on this video, and um, it's awesome, like cool, Like you know, I'm not going to compare my life to theirs because I don't know what their journey is, right, Like there's that quote that says like, don't compare, Like,

don't compare your twenty you know, your to someone else's you know, mile one, right, um, and and uh, they're young. And what I look at it is so many people are watching this going like, gosh, I want that life, man, Gosh, I want that Like they're so un they're so unhappy with their own lives that they're just like, oh, you know, and the people that produce that video or thinking the same thing. They're thinking like, oh, everybody's gonna want our life,

you know. So it's just a big thing of just just you know, if you if you are, you're never gonna be happy if you're not happy right now, So just just start learning how to be like just as happy as you would be if you were, you know, a multi millionaire, famous with a bunch of great kids. Like the happiness should never change out of your circumstances. That's that's the key. Lesson. Do you have any tips on doing that, because that is really a challenge for

a lot of people. That's uh. I mean, I I agree and uh, but boy, it's it's harder to do at than to say it. It is without getting into like the whole faith world. For me, I think it starts with with the gratitude of health. I don't know if anybody that's listening has been sick before, like six where you're like really sick and you're and like you're actually fearful of your life sick. Um, you realize very

quickly that if you're not healthy, nothing else matters. And so I think the gratitude of the fact that you whoever is listening can actually listen to this and is likely having a decent day. Um, it should start there and just been like, man, I'm so stoked that I have a great life. And then also the idea of comparison. So, um, we compare up all the time, like all we do is compare up. We go oh, man, like I want that you know, Um, I started comparing down um, and

that really helped me. So if you haven't gone to a developing country, that's a great investment for your life. And getting a chance that you get to see people that live in like little huts with like definitely disease written things all around them, with you know, incredibly difficult situations that are happier than you. And it's so stinking frustrating because you go, how is this person who was completely upside down, um, happier than me? And you realize

how broken you are. And so if you're going to invest in certain things, you know you're gonna you're thinking about traveling, You're like, I'm gonna go to Europe and check things out, Like Europe is gonna be fun. But I'll tell you, if you want to do something that's actually gonna make your life grow and change and be different, um,

compare down. Go go somewhere that makes you feel very uncomfortable and almost fearful, and you see the people and you realize how happy they are, and you realize that that, um, you've got a disease need to here. So comparing down and and as a is a is a good, good little trick that I've I've learned to do. We all sort of moved through one thing and then the next challenge faces us. What what are you wrestling with? Currently. What are some of the things that you are working

on right now in your own life? Right now, I think I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to be comfortable with who I am, um, to find out if people like the real me, because influencers are the best persona marketers you have ever met, and they're so good at being social chameleons and and becoming whoever they need to be at that moment. Celebrities are really good at it too, right um, And so I'm trying to figure out who I am. I'm also trying to just be an incredible husband.

I started thinking about, like, if my wife doesn't feel like she's the most cherished woman in the world, that I'm I'm not doing anything for my marriage and and I want my daughter and and our future children to to to be able to see the representation of of a husband, um, and and my wife's relationship with me so that they can carry that down and to say, you know, I don't want my daughters learning like having to look to anybody else to choose to learn how

to choose a husband and UM, so I'm really trying to say, hey, you know, this is this is exactly your your whole life. You're gonna see me loving your mother. UM. So that that's the kind of men that you need to be looking for. And so, UM, the challenges is that, I it's really hard. Um, it's really hard to be a good husband. UM. It's way easier to be a good businessman, that's for sure. You know, being a good

husband and a good father, UM is incredibly difficult. So it's slowing down because you know, going down and from from my computer to my Instagram, to my Facebook, to my book launched, my speaking engagements to my you know, whatever I'm doing, and then like stopping and then like getting down on my hands and knees and like playing a reading a book to my daughter. Um, and this is only one kid, right, I want we want as many children as we could possibly have, just because we

love children so much. And uh, you know, I'm concerned sometimes I'm like, man, am I gonna be able to stop? Am I gonna be able to stop? So that's that's where I'm really trying to focus. Is just like slowing down and and and being willing to be called out. I've I've gave a couple of men in my life some permission to say, hey, if you see me going down a rabbit trail against what you know that I want to become, can you please tell me you know?

And and I give you permission to pull me aside and be like, hey, man, like what you're doing right now is not what you want to do. Um, and you need to stop and UM. You know I always say that, you know, um. Self evaluation is helpful, right, um, but evaluation from others is essential. So I've just been really stepping into that and letting people speaking to my life from the outside in, and I think that's making

a pretty big impact on on my relationships. Excellent. Yeah, that is the challenge is to let other people in the thing I wrestle with even when I sort of say that, like, well, you know, I want you to call me out on my stuff is and you mentioned it earlier. It's being um telling the truth. They're showing all parts of things. They're not hiding things, even from

those people. Because we tend it's pretty easy to rationalize, at least for myself, things in my own head about well, you know, I'm doing it because this reason and nobody else and I wouldn't really need to talk about it. Kind of thing. Yeah, it's it's it's humiliating, it's it's it's it's embarrassing. And remember like growth is growth is

never ever fun. I mean like hard growth. The ability to change is what makes people successful and and and so that's why you know, when I talk about and people of a profit, I go, I go, hey, you know, like, how do you make others feel about themselves? Says a lot about your leadership and and so people look at them and they and so I'm saying that so cont that that that ability to make other people feel good,

it's something that's an internal thing with you. So I I I urge people to go change, grow, get better. And and that requires like fierce conversations and like embarrassing moments and sometimes humiliating awkward situations and sometimes just like incredible discipline to to stop, you know, doing the things that are are bad for your life. And um, it's it's the hardest thing. Like and and also on the other side, someone that that actually has to convince you

or convict you. You know, nobody likes telling anybody that they got a booger on their face, right, you know, it's like that you're at dinner with someone you're like, oh my, you're just staring at that booger. You know, You're just like, God, I don't want to tell them because it's so embarrassing for them, and uh, you know, and then you like, you know, if you're close enough with them and you're like, hey man, you just like start scratching your nose like you had a booker in

your face, and uh, you know. And but it's you know, you've got to get a friend that's willing to do that. To say, dude, the way you talk to people hurts them. You gotta stop doing that because you sound like an idiot and it sucks when someone says that to you. But I promise you it's better than living three years not knowing it right doing that. That's kind of the underlying philosophy of of of what I think some of

it makes the greatest leaders in the world excellent. Well, I think that is a great place to wrap up. You have put together a little, uh special something for our listeners. Do you want to talk a little bit about that. Where they can find that and where they

can find you and when the book's coming out. Yeah, So the book comes out May fifth, and uh we are pushing really hard to get this in the hands of leaders and the people that really want to become better business people but also just better leaders, you know, and and to think differently about business, and to restore capitalism because I believe capitalism is great. What we have today is you know, not a lot of companies are

really practicing what I think is is authentic capitalism. So we're trying to make this a better a better place. But I put together this three coaching kit with some coaching videos, a really good e book called People Matter, and it's about uh, you know, leadership in business UM and for self starters, entrepreneurs, dreamers, those kind of folks UM,

A private podcast, UM, a couple other things there. But if you go to People over Profit dot com, Forward slash Wolf, you'll get directed to that and you'll get access to that for free when you buy the book. So UM, really appreciate it if you if you would consider to pick that up and support kind of the mission that we're pushing there. Excellent, well Dale, thanks so much for taking the time to be on. I wish you a great deal of success with the book launching,

and UM, I've enjoyed the conversation awesome. Thanks Eric for having me. All right, take care, talk soon. Bye bye bye. You can learn more about this podcast and Dale Partridge at one you feed dot net slash Dale