The EA Podcast: Live at the Combine - Day 1

you know. And now they've gotten as a bigger room and bigger you know, more space a little bit and moved us out of the stadium, which I think is better. But it's just amazing how many people cover this thing every year and how many more there are every year covering it. And the thing that's going to change this year is that the fans are gonna be making their way through here uh tomorrow, actually workouts beginning and this

is the NFL's fan experience here in Indianapolis. And you folks can't see this at home, but you'll be able to check this out later on New York dot Com and all our social media platforms. Is that fans can go to the bench. proNTs area. Take a look at that. They can run the forty yard dash, they can test their verticals, um in the vertical jump area. This is a massive, massive undertaking here in India. Will you be doing the bench dresser? You go for the fans. I'd

like to for jets dot com. Right, let's do about four or five times. What do you think about that? You look get a good shape. Now you do some cross fit yourself. So I don't think I could do it now, I don't think I could do it. Um. Obviously, Uh, nin jetson was very busy off season, as we expected, uh Todd Bowls and like Macagnum, we're supposed to be at the podium here at the convention Convention Center today.

Unfortunately that's not taking place, so uh they will act talk to the reporters probably tomorrow, hopefully tomorrow tom all and then we'll carry that live. But first things first, cause the jets number of prominent offseason moves here, uh and most recently releasing the roll rivas. Yeah, you know, I think every winter your kind of condition and used to this. Now that there's gonna be cuts for the

salary cap reasons. But these are some big names, you know, you talk about the Roll revis, talking about Nick Mangold. These are guys who are probably having the Ring of Honor someday. You know. Rivas is twenty four, I think could be retired someday. And you see those names getting caught. It's still startling, even though we kind of have been talking about it for a little while that it might happen.

It's just amazing to think about it, and amazing to think about how much transition has happened with this team in the last few years and to see those guys go. You know, I think it's just startling to see the names and see it actually happened. And you know, the Jets are clearly turning the roster over like mccagney is, you know, turning the page on the last two years of what he's done. And I think it's you know, this is the signal that the times are changing. We're

on the Jets right now. Revus Scots last year just the one takeaway, But in two thousand fifteen, after he came back to the Jets, they actually had a career high nine takeaways. And when you look at the Jets defensively in two thousand sixteen, that was the one thing that Todd Bolts continued to say that that was the biggest difference yet our unit year to year was the lack of take week. Yeah, they just couldn't get the

takeaways in two thousand sixteen. I think when you look at the signing of Reevus and two thousand fifteen, it's easy to say it was a mistake. But in my eyes, I understand what the Jets were thinking. They were coming off a top season in two thousand fourteen, they had regime change. It was a way to get a big name in here and to give the fans something to feel good about. And he was coming off a good season, and he had a good season in two thousand and

fifteen for the most part. So I understand it, And you know, I think ultimately, you know, when we get five years away or ten years away and the Jets are honoring throughout vous, no one's gonna remember two thousand sixteen. They're gonna remember two thousand nine. They're gonna remember the interception in San Diego. They're gonna remember the interception in September eleven, two thousand eleven against Dallas. They're gonna remember all those great memories of Revis and not necessarily some

of the struggles he had last year. Woody Johnson said in a statement that, hey, listen, Darrell Revis home is always going to be here with the Jets. You also mentioned Nick Mangold, a guy who the Jets draft had played eleven seasons here with the Green and White, seven Pro Bowls, um a number of All Pro appearances or honors. I should say as well, uh, an elite center, and that's a tough one too. And then Mike mckangnon said, with that decision, tough business decision, Yeah, you know, and

I think with Mangold, it's funny. As a center, it's hard to appreciate that they're not in the highlights. You know, you don't see a lot of film on them on TV. You don't know what's going on necessarily, you know, in the trenches. To me, the moment I realized what Mangol meant this team was when he wasn't on the field.

You know, I remember in two thousand eleven he missed two games and it was the first time he had missed games, and things just weren't operating well for the offense, and there were Blitzer blitzers coming from everywhere, and Mark Sanchez was ducking and diving in Baltimore remember a night game, and you know it was like wow, you know, Mangol might be the m v P the way they couldn't handle it without him. And so you know, he talked to his teammates and he talked to the quarterbacks he's

played with. He can't overstate the importance he had to this team. He really was the brains of the offense on the field, and he had some young quarterbacks to work with through the years with Sanchez coming in Gino Smith, and you know he was kind of a guy who guided them when they were in their early days and helped them through it. So you know, I think, um, the time had come clearly. You know, they had to

make this decision, was a business decision. But Mango is another one who's going to be clearly honored by the Jets someday and you know will always be I think a favorite for the Jets. Yeah too, future ring honor and ductees, no doubt about it. In Mangold and Reeth this uh two thousand six, the Jets drafted the Brickshaw Ferguson out of Virginia number four overall that came back picks later in the first round, took a center at Ohio State by the name of Nick Mangold, and uh wow,

those two had a hell of a run. We know the Brickshaw Ferguson obviously retired before the two thousand and sixteen campaign and Nick Mangold becomes a free agent, and opinion he said very clearly that we'll see where the future holds. It looks like we'll be playing against Yeah, I think he'll play somewhere. And if you look at it, you know, in two thousand and six they take the

Britishaw and Mangold. Two thousand and seven they take Durell and David and that was really the foundation of then that run to the playoffs in two thousand nine, two thousand ten, and those really good teams. And I think you know the Jets, you always hear people saw built through the draft. Build that was truly building through the draft, and then you supplement around it. You know, I think from Mike McCadney, now when you're looking at it, turning

the page, now, that's what you want to duplicate. You want to try to get two guys two years back back to back that are gonna be you know, ten year players for you. That's the way it works. You know. Now we can take the questions. Uh, we're live here in Indianapolis at the Convention Center, Eric Ellen joined alongside by the New York Post Briant Costello, the two thousand

seventeen NFL Combine underway. In addition to uh Reeve the Mangold, the Jets also let the number two score in their franchises history go and Nick Folk, who had a tremendous run himself. Don't underestimate his importance, not only on the field, his game winning kicks and uh, he had a tremendous year last year, but the guy, it was just like Nick and Durrell have done some good things in the community as well during the time here. Yeah, that one

surprised me a little more than Mangold and Reeves. I kind of saw those coming. Folk. I didn't see coming as much as cap number wasn't as large, but you know, yeah, I mean the game winning kicks, you go through them. And he started thinking about you know, in hearing you know right down the road, um is the biggest one probably, But then against Dallas. We talked about Darrell's interception set up. Folks.

You know, crazy night at MetLife and you know, one of the loudest nights I think I remember at MetLife Stadium. So you know, Folk had a really good run for the Jets. You don't see kickers have runs like this often. So I think the Jets will miss him, and you know, maybe fans, you know, I don't understand how important he was. And you right, he was a good guy in locker room to Bruno Jackomani another good guy in the locker room. The first two years here with the Jets. He started

thirty two games. A back ailment, uh really set him back. Last year's limited five games and he couldn't over come at the Jets let him go. Yeah, you know, and Brenda I thought brought some toughness to the line. He was always a good guy in the locker room. He was fun to talk to, funny guy. You know, maybe he go a little too much toughness with the penalties

from time to time. But you know, I think, you know, the writing was on the wall this year with Brenta's back that that's a tough injury to come back from. When you're three pound offensive time and back injury. So you know, I think, um, you know, he did some good things for the Jets at the time he was there, but you know, it was clearly time to move on for them. So what do these releases mean for a number of the young guys on this roster? And we

just talked about Branald jack Amenia. How about a guy like Brandon Shell. Could he be in line to be the starting right teckle? The Jets release the roll read this, does that mean, Hey, we're gonna be expecting more out of a guy like Justin Burrs next year? And then Nick Mangold went out last year. I thought West Johnson

came in and played pretty warm song. Yeah. I thought West did a good job to last year, and I thought I could see kind of as the season was going on, I felt like the Jets were seeing what he could do, and that factored into the Mangold decision, like, hey, maybe we can live with West at center. So I think he's gonna get a good crack at that and the other guys. I think now two seventeen is about let's see what these young guys can do that they've drafted.

You know they've Mike mccagnell's hob Bowls and Wedy Johnson repeatedly we're gonna build through the draft, built the draft. It gets tedious when the press conference and hear it over and over again, but it's truly what you know they're trying to do. Well. Now it's time to see what they've built I think in these last two years, and then this year what they can get in the draft. So Ken Brandon shall slip in there and be the

right tackle. Can Justin Burrs be the quarnerback, Is Lorenzo Maldy gonna take that next step and kind of solidify himself as that pass rusher on the outside. Of course, they have the quarterbacks, Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenburg. Can one of them emerge? You know? Uh? So I think now

is the time to see. Let's let's see what mccagnet has done in these first two drafts, and then I think this year they're gonna be looking to add to that with you know, at least two or three guys I think in those first few picks that I can play right away. What are you most interested to hear from both Mike mcagnet and Todd Bowls when they go

to vodingum uh tomorrow. I'm interested to hear, you know, philosophically, what they're thinking, how honest they'll be if they think, you know, we've heard competitive rebuild for the last two years, Well, is now a true rebuild? Is now they're really going at it? Um, you know they The most interesting thing to me right now is the two tracks long term and short term. For Todd this is year three. Traditionally in the NFL, that's you know, coaches gotta gotta get

to the playoffs. Coaches have to do big things in year three? Will he be able to do that? If the Jets are so focused on going young and starting to turn the page towards you know, the next wave here, it's an interesting balance, and so I'm kind of curious to hear that. Um. You know, they've had some time to reflect on the season and now it's time to start looking aheads to two thousand and seventeen. I'm always interested to hear about quarterbacks. What's the planet quarterback? I

think that's probably the biggest question on everyone's minds. Um, you know, which was is it? Which isn't unusual with this team? Every year it feels like there's some kind of question with quarterback. Last year was could they get a deal done with Fits? And now this here is who's going to be the next quarterback? Yeah, you mentioned Hackenburg red short season. I think that was the plan all along, if you're listening to those guys even before

the season started. And then Petty got his feet when don't. Unfortunately, uh suffered the torn laborer and it's a left shoulder, non throwing shoulder, so he should be back. So you got two young guys on the roster and then uh Ryning Fitzpantri and Gino Smith both on restrict to free agents. Actually, Genal spoke DOWNFL Network this week and he said he's

keeping all options on the table. Yeah, you know, and with Gino, I think that's a situation where I don't think that's kind of probably the first choice for either side. But I do think if the Jets look around and um don't see what, don't see anything they really like, And I think if Gino looks around and isn't getting the offers he likes, they might come back together and make a deal. So I can see that happening. Uh, for sure, they're with Gino because there's a couple of

Twitter questions here. Um Curtis asked, what does the camp like right now for the Jet Well, after the Revas release becomes official, I think they're gonna be about twenty seven millions under the cap um, you know, and they can still create some more space if they make a few more moves. So I think, you know, they'll have enough room to to make it moves in free agency here, that's for sure. And Daniel asked specifically how much the Putney release of Revas. How much money did that free up?

For that free up nine point three million dollars, Drew was scheduled to make fifteen point three in two thousand and seventeen, six of its guaranteed so nine point three gets cleared up by that one. Um. I and to ask you about the coaching changes year. Obviously, Kevin Green comes in the coach outside linebackers, le Roy Glover assistant

defensive line coach. Jets have a new offensive coordinator and John Morton and uh new quarterbacks coach, and Jeremy Bates is having back for a second stint uh here with the Jets. Yeah, a lot of turnover on the staff, and you know, I think it's gonna be interesting to see what John Morton does. I don't think one really knows. You know, he's never been a coordinator before. He comes from New Orleans. He's been with Shawan Paynton, been with

Jim Harbaugh in San Francisco. So those are obviously good offensive minds, and we'll see what he brings. And um, you know, defensively, I'm interested in what Kevin Green does. I've heard good things. Actually talked to a j Hawk a few weeks ago and he said, you know, wait to see this guy in the field and the energy

he brings. I think the Jets could use that. They were kind of a mellow group last year, and I think they could use somebody that's kind of a little bit crazy out in the practice field and bring some energy. That's uh, the New York Posts. Bryan Costello, you can follow him obviously at the post and it'll be uh covering the combine wire to wire tomorrow top bowls and Mike mccagnan at the podium here we're gonna bring in

a Monday morning quarterbacks. Albert Brier here momentarily. Thanks guys so much for joining us, and uh listen, um, the player workouts in Indianapolis begin tomorrow. Like I said, Bowls and mccagnan will speak to the media Friday, a Thursday, excuse me, and then the quarterbacks here in Indy uh will uh talk as well. Um. We're here at the Indianapolis Convention Center at the two thousand seventeen NFL combine underway.

He just heard from the New York Post. Brian Costello momentarily will be joined by Albert Brier of Monday Morning quarterback dot Com. Of course, Albert, thank you so much for joining us. How are you enjoying the new game? Oh, it's good, It's good. It's good. You know, it's kind of an opportunity to, you know, work on building something. And I think that the model, uh, you know for what what we have is something it's effective. I think

we've seen it work. You know, there are places I mean, you know, in essence, Barston was a vertical, you know what I mean, like in uh, you know, obviously Bill Simmons has had some success with it, both the ESPN and now on his own with the Ringer. Um, you know what's done a great job with the vertical, Yahoo and so um it's been a great opportunity to kind of get in and try to help build something where you know, I think that the it's in a place

where the business is going. How long has it been now, and what are some of the what are some of the projects that you're currently working on? Yeah, I mean I like right now. I mean we've got a lot of stuff going on. But I you know, I'll have a story up tomorrow. And Joe Mixon and um, you know what the who who he is? You know? And I think that if he had been they hadn't put the rule and to prevent him from coming. And obviously Chad Kelly and to Mario uh string Fellow were also

affected by that. Uh, this would be Joe Mixon week because the video that came out in December and so, um,

you know, I I talked to Joe last week. I've talked to a couple of people at Oklahoma, talked a couple of people around the league, and um, just trying to get an assessment on on on who he is and what teams think of him, and um, you know, I think once we get out of here, you know, Oklahoma's Pro Days next week and so that's gonna be a very very big story and so that that's the next thing that's uh, that's gonna go up from a

power teams approaching to Joe Mixing. Like you said, three in the top college prospects are here, and Mixing is one of the better players there was one of the better players in college football. But uh, obviously, uh yeah, it's situation there Uh hit a woman. It was on tape that was released and Uma, he was not invited here to the combin. Yeah, and you know, I think that a big part of it from the week's perspective.

I mean, they they've turned this into a TV show, and so they didn't want the TV show this week to be Joe Mixing Week, which you know we've seen that in the past with guys like Cam Newton and man Tito and Johnny Manzel were one personality kind of like that that becomes what the week's all about. And so, um, I think they wanted to and they actively wanted to avoid that, and that's I think the real reason why he's not here. Um, look what he did. I mean,

there's no question it's horrific. You know, in that video is absolutely positively revolting to watch and so jarring anytime you actually see it. And that's the issue. You know, it's because they had you know, in July of two thousand and fourteen that happened, and you know, I you know, I talk him to people around him like, um, Now, he stayed there in Oklahoma and it was a very tough environment obviously, and um, you know it would have

been easy for him because his losses and leave. I think the teams like the fact that he stuck it out there. Um, you can question whether or not Oklahoma should kept him, but that's not a kid, you know what I mean. And so there's um, there's just I think when you look at it, there's a he he had kind of moved past it, you know, as a college player, and he'd gotten to the point where he was well beyond where um you know where that was, where that was affecting him all that much. And then

the video kind of gave it new life. And it's a good example of how video changes everything. We certainly saw it in the Ray Rice case. Um. You know, there have been other cases like Tyree Kale where you didn't see the same level of attention um on an incident because there was right and so I think the question becomes, I mean, they're gonna be certain teams that can't touch him, you know, with the Giants and the in the you know, the Ravens, teams that have been

through that probably can't touch him. But I think a lot of teams look at and say, we think he's learned his lesson. Um, what he did horrible, Um, But you know, he did all the right things for the last three years. And that happened on the day after his eighteenth birthday, and we think he deserves a second chance. And I look, here's the bottom line. In the NFL. The second chances are a function of talent, and if this is an average player, he may not get a

shot in the NFL. This is not an average player. I mean, this is like a first round type of back. And so somebody I think is gonna be sitting there on the third, fourth round. Besides, we're Sports Takes a ask Overt Brier from Monday Morning Quarterback joining us right now on New York Just dot com and Facebook Live teams Facebook a page. We're taking the live questions right now. And Andy asked what positions Jets targeting in the draft. I gotta go through free agent yeah, I mean, you know,

the easiest I mean the easiest one. I think that that everybody would look at his offensive line based on the attrition there the last couple of years, um, with you know obviously Brick and then Claydy being gone now and Nick Mangold being gone. Um. The problem is that it's not going to be easy to address that in the draft, and so you have to look at free agency and because there are teams out there that need offensive line help, um, and know that this isn't a

very good group of offensive linemen coming out. Um, they're going to be bidders and free agency on on on offensive linemen, and so uh, you know, I think that's an obvious area of concern where they need to find answers the flip side, and you know, another one of their their big needs to be corner, you know. And and there's a deep group of free agents and there's a deep group in the draft ten eleven corners that

could go in the first couple of rounds. So um, you know, they they they're in a good spot at that position because you know, there's just there's there there's a there will be a lot of options for him out there. And then of course the big question is whosial quarterback of the future, and I think they're still sorting through that, like that part of it. I mean, part of why you bring in Jeremy Bates is to get a clearer read on Christian Hackenburgh and and and

trying to figure out if if he's flexible. And so they're going through that process now and you know, we'll see whether effectively do in April. Yeah, you've been uh covering the NFL for a long time now, so you've been around a number of these guys. When when you think about Todd Bowls edition at the offensive coordinator spot with John Morton, Yeah, you know, I think one of the things that made it tough for them to make a higher his perception that Todd could be in on

jaking ground, which is tough, you know. I mean it's just if if if you're an offensive coordinator candidate, would you rather go with like Sitty Mike McCoy, would you rather go with fans Joseph it was gonna be a first year coach in Denver, Um, you know, you know you're gonna have a couple of years to build something, or would you go into would you want to go to a place where you know, a guy's job could potentially be in the line, and you know, the reality of it is that to be dealt with that to

some degree. They also dealt with, you know, some bright young candidates being blocked, and so I know it wasn't an easy process, but uh, Morton. Morten's got a good reputation, and you know, I think bringing in Jeremy Bates to backstop and a guy who's got a lot of like calling experience helps. Um. You know, I I the really the way I look at it. You know, I think you're bringing a well respected coordinator, and I think there's gonna be some delegating of responsibility there. It would be

interesting to see how all that shakes out. Yeah, no doubt about it. Free agency, but he's gonna come right after the combine this year, because we're sitting here in Indy. It's late, it's March first already. When we get back, we'll be talking about free agency moves. You talked about maybe the Jets addressing the cornerback position, and you said you like the depth and talent there um up at the top or some of the names in the chimp

on chet Well. I mean in the draft, you've got the the Ohio State kids, Marshall and Lattimore and Gary and Conley. You've got the Florida kids Quincy Wilson and Tease taber. Uh. There's just I mean, there's just a lot of them. You know, there's just and and there are a lot of people who feel like the eleventh or twelfth corner could wind up being as good as the third or the fourth quarner to go and so um, the good news is there's a lot of them. Most

of them are very physically talented. You've got a lot of the Seattle type corners with you know, long arms and tall and all that. So you know, I think you're gonna have a lot of good options. And if you want to take one sixth overall, there's a good chance there will be a player there at that position that's worth taking that high. Kevin from Facebook, Albert wants to no offense or defense at six for the Jets.

You touched upon that a little bit. We know the Jets just looking back to the history, it's just the way everything is fallen. They're taking a lot of defense of players in the first round. You gotta go back to Mark Deanchise and Dusty Keller over the last ten first round picks for offensive players. Well, I think it's Hey, it sounds like a cop out, but I think it's quarterback or defense. Like like, if you see a quarterback there, you thinking me the future your franchise, and I know

they'll go through that process. I think Mr Rbisky can be your quarterback for the next ten years. You take um if you don't, you know, I think it's strength of the classes of defense. And so whether it's you know, a corner like a Latta Moore, whether it's a safety like Amali Cooker or Jamal add Only, whether it's I mean, Jonathan Allen probably doesn't doesn't slipt here, and I don't know that he'd be a fit because you're okay in

the interior the defensive line. But um, there's a lot of good defensive talent up towards the top end of the draft, and so if you're not going to take a quarterback there it six. Overall, I think the value is gonna be somewhere on the defensive side of the h And lastly, Albert, what are you most looking forward to from mcagnan amples when they actually do talk to the media here, and I'm interesting to see how they

addressed the quarterback situation. I'm interested to see how, you know, now having John Morton and Jeremy Bates in the house for a few weeks, I'm curious to see how they talk about Christian Hackenburg now, talk about Bryce Petty now, because they've now had a fresh set of eyes and those guys, you know, and so I'd be interested in

hearing how they discussed the quarterback situation. The other thing, of course, and I think this is kind of an overarching thing just talking about rebuilding, you know, because they and they they inherited a team in ten that was in desperate need of a rebuild, and you know, they the whole competitive rebuild thing that that that term was nice when you put that layer of veteran players on top of what you had um you know already on

the team. You know. The problem is is that you get a few injuries and the thing you can fall apart pretty quickly. And so I think that's the difference between fifteen and sixteen. And fifteen they stayed relatively healthy, a lot of their older players performed, and then in

sixteen more injuries. You know, some of the older players fell off a cliff, and you know that puts you in the position where you were two years ago, which is, you know, still in need of a rebuild and now probably without the resources to make yourself a playoff team. In the short show, that's Albert Breer from Monday Morning Cornerback dot Com. You're doing torontous work there, uh, and we'll be following you the next story, Albert is gonna be covering not Joe Mixon, who is not here, but

three the top college prospects are here. Continue Albert. It's Albert Brier from Monday Morning Quarterback dot Com. Of course, we are here in indian the two thousand and seventeen NFL Combine underway or at the convention Center. We've been joined both by the New York posts Brian Costello and Albert Breer. Kim Jones from NFL Network will be on set momentarily. UH fans will be rolling through here in Indianapolis, UH tomorrow to take part in this experience. There's a

lot of displays forty yr dash vertical jump. UH. Folks can go through here, UH, go to the bench press or watch the guys that take part in all that. As far as the Jets are concerned, their interviews are under way UM here in Indianapolis, so they're talking to prospects at night. They have an opportunity to speak to sixty three thirty prospects here in Indianapolis formal interviews, but informal interviews are taking place as well. UH. The interview

the medicals are very important here. But this is an opportunity for each team scouting staff to get with the player sent him down and get a chance to know him on a one on one, one on one basis UH here and then after the combine rap stop, the free agency is gonna be starting. The Jets have been very busy this offseason. We know that most recently they released Darrelle Revis, uh, Nick Mangold, Nick Folk, and Breno

jack Amini. Mike mccagnan has repeatedly stated UH since the off season began that he wants to build this team through the draft. With that being said, it's gonna be interesting to see how this team approaches free agency now because they've cleared some money up UH obviously with the cap, so they got close to the thirty million dollars that's what the New York Post Brian Costello was reporting, UH close to thirty million UM, and we'll have to see

how the Jets go about their business. One thing mcagnan did before the offseason actually began was he struck UH keeping Brian Winners off the market, resigning that veteran guards. So you're keeping Winners and James Carpenter together. I think that's one of the finer UH guard tandems in the

National Football League. Nick Mangold let go center seven time Pro bowler, but the Jets didn't like what they saw out of West Johnson last year, and then UH at the cornerback position, Darrell Rivas released interceptions a hundred twelve p ds for Rivus in his eight seasons with the New York Jets, two separate stints. Woody Johnson said, listen, UH, Durrell's home will always be with the New York Jets. Momentarily, we're gonna be joined by Kim Jones of NFL Network.

Once again. We thank Brian Costello of the New York Posts and Albert Bier of Monday Morning Quarterback for joining us. I'm gonna take some Twitter questions right now. Rick Flair like that handle. Are the Jets overlooking Watson at six? Sure his accuracy is shaky, but he steps up when it matters. Uh, Rick Flair, I would say that I don't think the Jets are underlooking any buddy right now.

They're gonna take a thorough uh evaluation of each prospect who us here and even the prospects who are not here. Albert Brier just talked about a guy like Joe Mixon who was not invited to the combine. There are a few players this year not invited into the combine. Um, but the Jets are gonna do all the due diligence on all the top quarterbacks in the draft, whether it be Deshaun Watson, Mitch Drabinsky from North Carolina to Shaun

Keiser from North Carolina, um from Notre Dame. Is gonna be fascinating to see how the quarterback domino's actually fall uh this year for the Jets and the rest of the National Football League. Right now, two quarterbacks on the roster for the Jets, that is Christian Hackenberg, who was a second round pick, had a red shirt season for the Jets, and then Bryce Petty got a feat Watton the National Football League last year unfortunately torn labor in

his left shoulders non throwing his shoulder. Both Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick on restricted free agents, so they'll be out there on the market, uh free agency. UM quarterbacks Kirk Cousins will not be on the market. You just got franchise tag. The uh Rudskins just placed the franchise tag on Cousins. Mike Lennon gonna be animal. I'm gonna be joined right now by Kim Jones. Is good to see you. How are you in the jet? So we are doing well. So what do you think about this

set up here? Uh, in Indianapolis the Convention Center, because typically over the years we've been across the street at Lucas well. Yeah, well, change is difficult. Change is hard for me. Yeah, you have to get your bearings. I have to see. I have to sneak up on people here because I need stuff on the players, the guys who are going to go through the drills Friday through Monday on NFL network. So I need opinions from coaches, GM's personnel guys. And I used to know where to

find them at the other place. Now I have to kind of track them down a little bit hallway in here, but it's working out. It's working out, okay, Yeah, And fans are gonna be through here uh Friday, yes, through a through the weekend. Well, and the bench press will be here, not over the stadium, which is different. And and and people will watch like fans will watch, So go figure it, right, um, Kim, that's very busy, this office,

very busy. Yes, what do you make us? Some of the moves here, releasing prominent veterans of the guys who were going to be in the ring honor for this team, Darrell Reeves and Nick Mangold and then letting go also the number two scoring the franchise's history, and Nick Folk and Brendo Jacomini as well, and the list goes on, right. I just um and may they may not be finished. Um, we'll hear from Mike and Todd. I guess tomorrow now. But I think it's a rebuild. You know, the band

aid effect. A lot of people try it. They tried it. They were this close to make in the playoffs two years ago, as you guys know, but um, it didn't work. And at time, at one point or another, you have to rebuild and that's what I feel like they're doing. It's a tough thing to admit. And I don't know if micro Todd will use that kind of language or that word exactly with us, but it seems pretty apparent,

doesn't it. Mccag that said at the end of the season, and what Dos was clear about it too, that they want to build the seed through the draft. Yes, and they'll have an opportunity to do that. They have a first, a second, and two thirds. UM I have said, and I think it's uh, you know, certainly the way to go or the way to think. Mike mccagnan has to hit on those four picks. In my opinion, opening day, your first, second, and both third round picks need to be on the field because I think this is a

roster where young players can grow. UM. I would like to think that Todd uh and his coaching staff, who let's let's be honest and he rebuilds tough for the coach.

The GM can can manage it. It's tough a coaching staff, but I think Todd is the kind of guy that that will not bother I've talked to people here today who know Todd bowl is better than I and They all say Todd can handle anything you throw at They have great confidence in Todd bawls the men who've worked with him before exactly that it's not going to phase him. He's not going to be a week to week up

and down kind of guy. But coach up these young players, get him on the field and let them grow that. That's that's the way you're gonna eventually build. And you know, by the time you build, maybe Tom Brady will decide to retire. You never know, Well, you've spent to Tom Brady. So what do you think about the Jets quarterback land

escape right now? Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick heading to a free agency, Christian Hackenberg upensity products second round pick at a red shirt season, and then Bryce Petty last year we saw him in the National Football League for the first time. Unfortunately went down with the torn labor so he's coming off offseason shoulders surgery and he'll be back at some point. Yeah, you get the feeling they're

gonna add to that mix. Of course, I mean they're not going to just have the two, so you feel like you'll they'll add to the mix, like two more for the off season and everything I'd like to see a three man competition, uh, whether it goes through training camp or not, whether it goes through the entire preseason or not, and just see who wins it. Petty will be part of it, Hackenburgh will be part of it, and then the unknown of who else will be part

of it. But that's what I would like to see them do, really a competition best man wins and go forward from there. Do you see anything out there in free agency at this point that might make sense for the job? I mean, Mike Glennon is probably the easy answer. You know, none of us have really seen him at length, um, But Mike Glennon would be in free agency the one that guys you can trade for. I think we know the names. It's do you really want to give up

picks if you're going to rebuild? What do you want to really give up to bring in a bridge guy? I think that's the question. So you look at free agency, A lot of the same names are out there every year or two, right, Um, But I guess Glennon would be the one, And it obviously depends on this price tag that you could bring in maybe a four year deal. That's really one of those NFL two year deals and see if he helps you get through. But I'm not going to act like an expert on Mike Lennon because

I'm not. I'm not sure who is out of Tampa Bay. Well, yeah, he's got a small sample signs about of mine thirty touchdown passes with the Buccaneers, fifteen interceptions, and then Jamis Winson came in and he began the backup quarterback there. Um, do you think Christian Hackenberg can you can look at this as a little bit of a reset because he now he's got to have new coaches and then John Morton and Jeremy Base. Yeah, I would think so another

reset for him. He's had a bunch of them. He's only twenty he just turned twenty two on Valentine's Day, I believe, and he's had a bunch of systems, a bunch of quarterbacks, coach, there is a bunch of offensive coordinators and head coaches. So yeah, I would think so. I think. I don't think mental toughness is an issue with Christian. I don't think toughness is an issue with Christian. I have a feeling he's working very hard this offseason

on mechanics and that kind of thing. But listen, there's no reason he can't come in and compete this season. He doesn't need another red shirt season, he doesn't need to sit again. Automatically, I think that there's no reason he can't come in compete, and I would hope win the job. When you draft someone in the second round, you want them to very much be part of your program,

not essentially sitting out. What are you hearing about some of the top college of quarterback prospects who are going to speak to the media here in India on Friday, And we know the top three names that you know, the people who seem to have varying opinions about are obviously Clemson said Deshaun Watson, North Carolina's risky, and then at Deshaun Kaiser on another Dame. And then we got a fourth guy, maybe edited that it makes I don't know, but it seems like a hot name out here is

Patrick Yep. He is definitely an ascending guy on that list. He'll be a little bit different mechanically. It'll be interesting to see these guys throw. But what I'm getting from the people I'm talking to here is a lot of what what we've been hearing whisper wise and that sort of thing. You don't want one of these guys to have to come in and start for you. So I'm not sure that how many of these guys would be automatically a first round pick in this draft. Some of them,

maybe all of them, will be first round picks. That's just the way of the NFL. But this is a good year. I mentioned to someone here who does not need a quarterback. I said, is it a good year not to need a quarterback? And he smiled and said, yes, yeah, Well, we want to see how it all plays out, and things can change quickly. After these guys would meet with UH teams. This week, the Jets will meet with sixty prospects UH of formal interviews. UH Kim Jones is gonna

be covering everything for ENF on that. We're thank you so much for stopping by. And tomorrow, eight folks, you're in luck because we'll be alive again at noon and Todd Bowls and Mike mcagnant will go to UH the vodium and Kim will be covering that round off on network and we'll have you covered here on all these Jets platform