The 2017 Pre-Draft Show

There's not a running back in today's NFL where you can really truly compare him to. You want to move back and move back to get down. I think we're gonna see a quarterbacks froll eye in this draft. You go that time with one of the guys, where do you kind of wait? Can believe you can trade down fact and to be where he is here the top guy and maybe his dreak A bayone is the biggest strongest back. This guy out him. Finally, welcome to the

two thousand seventeen New York Jets Draft Show. We're brought to you today. I m SEU, the Official Credit Union of the New York Jets. We're here at MetLife Stadium the fifty yard line. In fact, on stage, I'm joined by Rich Sermonello and the Mad Backer himself, Bart Scott in the building. Thousands of season ticket holders coming in here to MetLife Stadium. The annual Jets Draft Party, two thousand seventeen Draft is almost upon us. Guys got to be excited right now because the Jets are gonna get

better in a couple of hours. Yeah. I think the Jets are gonna get much better with the number six pick. I don't think there's any question about that. We've gone through this process now for the past three months, so I think everybody's eager to see, not just the Jets, but all thirty two teams in which directions do they help.

I think in the current you know, collective bargaining agreement with how gods are slotted now, I think you're going to see a lot of activity early in this draft, a lot of trades and every since they go into this new format the players are slotted. You know, it's always been exciting to see who's gonna move up, who's going to who's going to mortgage the future? You know, for right now, who's gonna try and move up from

the twenties up to the top five. And I think the Jets are in prime position to want either to move up or move down, but also they can get them a Blues player right now, all right. Mike mccagnet has said he is open for business if teams want to move up, give the Jets the call, because he wants that's the stockpile draft picks in a very deep class.

The Jets are sitting there at six. We know the Cleveland Browns hold the cards early because they had the number one overall selection in the two thousand seventeen NFL draft. A lot of noise today, gentlemen, as far as who are the Browns going to go with Myles Garrett, the pass rusher out of Texas Day and I'm or the quarterback for North Carolina Mitch Drabinsky Bart, it seems like out the late reports out of Cleveland are that it's

gonna be Miles Garrett. Well, I think that I think the Cleveland Browns are still a ways away from being a competitive football team right now. You have to get the best players, and I think if you ask collectively the scouts around around the league, they're going to say that Miles Garrett is the best prospect. He's as you can never say I can't miss talent, But I don't think you overreach for a quarterback that's early, especially when you have three that's kind of on the same playing field.

You can move down if you don't get your biscuity. You can get you know Watson and be happy with that as well. You know, you talk about two teams that have a lot of flexibility. You talk about the Cleveland Browns, you talk about the Tennessee Titans, both of path two picks in the first round. I think you get Miles Garrett and then you're open for business. You try and get to whoever you have talent at your top rated quarterback later in the round. So Rich, what

do you think about that? To the Browns grab Garrett and then try to package that twelve overall selection and move up to ensure themselves that your biscuity. I think that makes the moves since at this point, if there's if there's one player that he's can miss, it has to be Miles Garrett. I know there are some questions about maybe he doesn't have passion for football, but when

you look at that combination of size, speed, tenacity. Everyone I've ever talked to said, he's a high football character guy, so he's gonna bring it in practice. I think he loves the sport. I think he's the closest thing to a short thing. And you know Artist mentioned a quarterback. I mean, listen, do you do you want a quarterback on this team that is not going to have the tools around him. How demoralizing would it be for a the Shawan or Mr Drobisky if they were a part

of that organization. Well, you don't want to damage a young player. Earlier we saw car struggle in Houston with that as well. They don't have the surrounding players. They do have a blue chip Hall of Fame player and Joe Thomas. You know it's blinds out to be covered. But if you can't establish that with a solid run game and be able to build around a young player, I think you get the pieces around him. I think last year the quarterbacks they're they're about he. Well, I

forget the kid from USC. He played amarably at times. I think you continue to build around him, continue to stackpole future picks, traded up and sound the board and playing moneyball right now, Sassy Brown. You know he's an analytic type of guy. I think you try and get your blue chip player. They missed the opportunity last year, but they didn't go out and get wins. I think it's not a quarterback in his draft, but though at

that caliber. So you go with the short miss, you know, the short camp miss MOUs Garrett, who's a pass rusher. You think about this game, now you need a quarterback. You need a pass rusher. Used to be that the cornerbacks were the most important players, but now stopping the most important player on the opposing team, it's the pass rush. All right, Enough about the Cleveland Brian, Let's talk about the New York Jets, who do hold that number six

overall selection. Tonight as the draft gets underway, Rich starting with you, who do you think is going to be available for the Green and White when they're put on the clock if they don't trade back and he offensively, I think we have to talk about O. J. Howard, the tight end from Alabama Leonard four net could be a possibility. The running back from LSU would be a splashy pick, would be a face of the franchise, type of a player. Defensively. I think we have to talk

about defensive backfield. I would love to see a Jamal Adams the safety slip. Don't think it happens, but Marshawn Lattimore from Ohio State Malie Hooker from Ohio State. Those are two players that could possibly fall into the Jets lap part. Who's jumping out to you? Um? I love the Howard kid only because of the combination between him

and s Paron Jakins. What that can really do to opposing defenses being that you can have two pass catching tight ends that can also help you in the in the past with Texas as well, keep one guy in, split him out. They can act as receivers as well. I think, um, you can't go roll before Nette um he. I think he's a guy who's been carried a load. I saw him yesterday. He looks great. It looks like he's keeping that water weight off. You know, he was

there with his family, had a huge entourage. Happy for the kid. It's always a great time. You know. You see guys that work so hard to come to this point and really enjoy the night before you know you have to go to work and get that business done. I would love the combination between him and Allow Paul, who you know. I believe it's earned the right to get a lot more playing time. He's still relatively young in his career. He has little trade and he still

has a lot of trade left on the tires. But if I had to pick, I think the biggest matchup in any draft is that tight end. They've revolutionized the game because their matchup nightmare. The Jets are fortunate to have two of those guys and you can do a lot of things with the two tight end personnel. Okay, so Rich Sermonalo and the mad backer south part Scott say, if O. J. Howard is on the board, they'd like the Alabama tell you down to come in here and be a Jet. With that being sad, there are six

picks Friday and Saturday for the Jets. Bottom line is not only do you have to hit early, but here is a draft a lot of talent, a lot of tal important part you're a guy who wasn't drafted. I mean how important our Friday and Saturday When you're a team in transition and you're trying to build, well, if you're picking in the top ten every year, then you're not a pretty good team, so you hope that this is the just last time up in here, so they

have to make sure that they win. But then you think about in the second rounds, that's when the teams are really made. That's when you get guys that are coming hungry. They're going to be positional type of players. They're gonna be role players. But also those are guys that you know, may just need a little bit of developments from coaching and they can turn into and become you know, you think about Leon Washington, I think about

Drew Coleman, I think about Eric Smith. I think about some of the guys that are major contributors to some of the teams that I was a part of. You know, they were guys that came in as late draft picks, but they contributed, they were well and they're always going to be cheap. The team can't be full of high price creators and high draft picks. You know, if you're the great, teams have guys that they find and that's

where your scotting department really comes in. The rich What ups off to you about the second round and beyond as we'll start Day two Friday night, Well, listen, the Jets are gonna choose, in my opinion, either the tight end or a defensive back with that first pick, and you look deeper in the draft. Those are two positions that are very deep. I mean defensive backfield in general, corners, safeties,

tight ends on offense a tremendous amount of debt. So if it's Howard the first you can still get some quality dbs, second round and beyond if it's one of the defensive backs. Tremendous tight ends. One of the deepest tight end classes I can remember, So you could go deeper even beyond that second and third round and still get a playmaker at that tight end position. So a lot of talent, and a lot of talent in areas where the Jets need help. No offensive line. I think

the Jets can use some offensive lineman. But this draft is different because, yeah, usually every year you can say, hey, it's gonna be in the top ten. When when is the first offensive linement going to go in this draft? It could be Forest lamp and he's not even a tackle. Well, I tell you what, when you think about the tackle position, how it's changed. I played with the likes of Willie

Rode Jonathan Ogden. You know young Joe Thomas, you know Walter Walter Jones, you know, uh, big Willie out in Cincinnati's. They don't make those players anymore. Those guys don't exist. Now you have positional guys. It's not that six eight and six seven, three fifty pound dominant lineman tackle anymore.

And I think, you know when you think about the tackle position, and I think it's a big disconnect between the collegiate level and the program level because now these guys are used there, used to playing basketball getting in front. You're going side to side, and you know the league you have to drop back and protect that seven step drop and then they're just not used to doing that. They're not big enough to really handle, you know, the bull rushes and things those sorts. So I think, you know,

you get you a tackle late in the draft. You development. Um. Let's talk about the Jets off season to day that released a number of prominent veterans, Brandon Marshall, the Roll, revus Um, Nick Mangold, Brenda Jakamini, Nick Folk, uh part. Some of these guys you played with them, A lot of these guys who played with them, But it's a salary cap era. The Jets won just five games last year. There's obviously a youth youth movement going on here. A

lot of these players over thirty years of age. What stands out to you as far as making those necessary of moves here this offseason. But when you can't win with a high stylary cap, you have to do you don't have to do a money permos and that's just a business. You have to go young. It's a time for these young guys have an opportunity to play into develop because you're studying their growth, so to speak. Because every year you're trying to win, but the young players

don't get to get an opportunity. The only way you're gonna get better is about actually playing in real life moments. And I think the Jets having a very young football team. I remember being a part of a football team after a lot of veterans got pursed. When you think about the Baltimore Ravens, you think about Shanny Sharp, Charles Woodson, Adams, Rob Burnett, all those guys who we came in the root of youngest team in NFL history. But it allowed

us to get some experience. We took our lunch and allowed us to create a foundation and that those were the teams that were consistently in the playoffs and brought in Joe Platteau and Ray Rich and some of those old players, and that's how we're able to be consistent with all right, So so everybody can hear us at Montlife Stadium, I'm gonna ask both of you guys to pick off your mix and speak right into them because

we're on the board throughout mount Life Stadium. Thanks the Jets Nation for attending the Jets Annual Draft party here at Montlife Stadium. We're getting under way here at seven o'clock. The general public is going to be in as well. Remember we are presented today by m c U. It's the official credit union of the New York Jet uh Rich.

We're talking about offseason transactions by the Jets. Any surprises to you of the moves that Mike mccagnan made as far as the departures are concerned, I don't know so much about surprises. I think it's uh for the fan base. Sometimes you've grown accustomed to the Nick Mangold, Darrell Reeves. I think it's a little bit difficult to not have those faces in the building. Anymore. But to Bart's point, part of the business necessary transition. Have to move on,

have to do the purge, have to get younger. I think Mike mccagnan did a good job of resisting the temptation to mortgage the future. You adda Morris Clayborne. I like Marris Clayborne. I think if he's healthy, he is a quality defensive back. He's an upgrade and Kelvin beach him. Listen, he's he's not gonna be a top of tier. He's big, he's athletic guy. I had mentioned you off the air that uh, you know, June Jones had once told me one of the most athletic tackles he's ever each before.

That's of you. So I think it's important to tap the brakes and improve through the draft. At this point, what about Josh McCown. That's a guy that you faced off against. Talk talking about you know, Hackenburg, and talk about Bryce Petty. You know what better pro to learn to than a guy that's been a lot of different systems.

You know, a guy that can really tutor and mentor these guys to teach him how to be a pro, teach him how to prepare um and I think it's gonna you know, if you want to find out what those guys have, sometimes you have to put somebody in there that can lead them and teach them. You know, the IDEO Sncracy's are playing a position how to prepare what to look for in film. And I think you know that it would be great for the Jets because he's a pro. He's gonna come out, he's gonna put

him in positions, he's not gonna lose the game. And I'm excited about this young receiving corps. I love a new Wak. You know, he reminds me of a Kwa Bolden. You know, he's a beast. You talk about a guy that's willing to do the dirty work. But I think last year showed his ability to separate and kind of be a one to one B type of receiver that Decker comes back. You know, then if you can get a tight end or or if we can get Safren

Jenkis to kind of step up a little bit. We know what bla Pal has been able to do because he's a guy that steps on the football field and you don't know because he's tough in between the tackles, He's a great receiver of the football, but he'll shorten your neck as well and pass cover, so you know, I think they have a lot of flexibility. I'm excited about this offense that they have. I think it can

only get better. A new offensive coordinator and John Morton, new quarterbacks coach, and Jeremy Bates from the Jets this year. McCown he's got some gun slinger mentality and him doesn't it absolutely. You know, he's a guy that's not afraid

to fail. You know, when you've been around the league for as long as he has, and you think about I think about a couple of years ago when he was in you know, he had huge receivers like he'll have with the Jets, and you know, you look what he was able to do in Chicago pushing the ball down the field, and you talk about some of the numbers he's able to put up. I think you should be inspired if you're a young receiver, because he's gonna throw the ball with the ball, but the defense dictates

the ball as supposed to. Oh, he's not gonna make many mistakes. You know, he's just gonna be incumbent that these young guys make plays for the quarterback you mentioned Claiborn. Uh, we're talking about him a little bit, and he played his best football last season in Dallas. That's something Jason Garrett told me at the NFL owners meetings when he was asked about Claiborne. He said, listen, he's a guy who wanted to have back in Dallas. Rich mentioned before,

here's a former top ten pick. If you're him, Barton, are you looking at this as a chance to kind of get a fresh start. You're still a young player, you still have a lot of upside, and now you're gonna go to a new organization and a very good medical staff handed by John Molly. Absolutely, John Belly is one of the best in the business. But also I think Clayborn health is gonna be key. He was healthy last year. You know, coming coming in this year, it's

gonna be him coming. He's a very physical, competitive quarterback at the at the point of attack. He's somebody that you can you know, he's gonna have his man can road covers opposite. It's just gonna be incombing in the Jets. With the Jets as always, you're gonna have to find a way to generate a pass rush without Blitzen, and you may be able to find one of those players in the second term round. First, all right, that's the man backer, Bart Scott. I'm here on stage with Rich

Sermonello as well. It's the Jets annual Draft party. You're watching live basically all our platforms right now. We're brought to you today by m c U, the official Credit Union in the New York Jets. Let's continue to talk some offense and bring in a former Jets running back right now in Zach Stacy. Zack, thank you so much for joining us. So from a three person set, we

go to four. And since your former running back, let's talk about the running backs and you played in that sec what do you think about Leonard four Nett and his running style and what excites you about that prospect? Oh man, it's crazy. Um, I'm just glad I didn't come out this year because the draft lasses loaded outer

this year. You know, guys like fort as you mentioned, you know David Cook, uh, you know Christian McCaffey, But Leonard Fournette brings us a special element to the table just because you don't see guys two forty pounds run like he does. Waterway. Absolutely, but it's actually good because a report said that he actually lost weight. Uh you know, he's done like two two pounds now, so I'm eager to see how he does. But once in the I mean, he's probably the niche, closest thing to Adrian Peace in

my in my opinion. You know, we said a lot about that about Todd. Gurley obviously had a down season last year, but I think you know he's gonna be for net Is, gonna have a chance to have a splash last Eliot did part What do you think about that coison here? I see the comparison, but that's gonna house doing the next levels be able to be a receiver of the ball because it's a different game now. You know me personally, I'm stuck between Dalvin Cook and McCaffrey.

I love McCaffrey because he's tough in between the tackles, but I just don't think he's a good fit for this team. But I think he's the best. He may not have the best career, but I think he's gonna have the most impact. You talk about a guy who touches the ball in the in the in the return game, he can run the ball in between the tackles. He's more physical than you think. You talk about pedigree. We talk about this all the time with the Matthews and

Legacy and all that stuff. You know, his dad was a tough s ob and his dad knows and he can go in and his dad's not gonna not gonna pacify Hi. He's gonna tell him what he needs to do to be a pro. He's gonna be business and working. Like in the offseason he played for David Shaw, who who I've worked with before, remember of the Baltimore Ravens. So he's been in the pro style offense and he's

a great receiver of the ball. He could be a matchup nightmare because you go empty and you put him in that slot and you get stuck with that linebacker on him, that safety he can he can go to work. Rich. Why is Dalvin Cook's stock possibly falling or is that something that's just made right now? He's like Bartres mentioned, you watch Dalvin Cook on tape and you say, this guy is dynamic, he's explosive. He is perfect for the National Football League. How can he How can he fall

out of the first round? Yeah, listen, if you watch the tape, I mean, I see the second coming of Jamal Charles. I mean just an absolutely explosive, violent runner. Once he gets through the second level, he will go the distance. He was productive, He played through injuries. There's two things that I think are concerning NFL teams right now. He's had a history of shoulder problems, so I think there is the potential for health. And there are red flags that have begun to pop up about some off

field issues. So I think there's some concerns about character. Not football character, but off field character. Listen, I think he's the best running back in this class. I think five years from now we're talking about a Pro Bowl running back. He might slip, he might wind up with the buck can years, but this is an elite running back of this class. The phone is over here, I having a side conversation about that. Is a big fan. There's no doubt about that. But the bunting cooked to

me reminds me of Freeman. And I said a couple of years ago and Freeman was coming out, I said, listen, this guy has an NFL style game. I watched the guy that was tough to be doing the tackles, that had that all great running backs had that tremendous jump

cut where you you can't quite get around him. I like my running backs about five ten and shorter, you know what I mean, because I think it's less body target to hit and they're always gonna take hits on the top of the shoulder pass which concerns me because you talk about his shoulder and that's what reasons gonna take a lot of his hits as he protects his legs at some of the still we called my jihenas

you know that the quarterbacks try and cut his toes out. Well. Uh, we're enjoying up here on stage by Chi Sermonalo Park Scott, and Zach Stacy. People are filing in here than the Jet's annual draft party at My Life Stadium. We're outside a beautiful night fifty yard line and just about an hour not if our draft is going to kick off, Zach, since we have the off period, what do you think

about Christian McCaffrey did everything at stand for the guy? Uh, you know when you think about somebody who who averaged more than two hundred all purpose yards per game, and guys, he was the vocal point. I mean, it was McCaffrey. Every defense set, we gotta stop this guy, and he could do everything. You run between the tackles, your line of off as a receiver, and he is also a threat on special teams exactly. Hey, very very dynamic player,

very dynamic player. For the most part, he does a great job, which is being versa and that's where the name of the game is changing. For a running back, you have to be able to do it all. You have to be able to run, obviously, block catch balls at the batfield. That way you see guy like the monthday Freeman Haass, says Timman taman Coleman's houses say this those guys is all is all about this past lead and the best way to get your hands on the ball is any way possible. I think the best fit

for mccaffnick is with the Panthers. Obviously take a little pressure off Cam Newton, and also the Panthers need that prolific offense with the running ballast he brings the impact. I see that we all spending bart because you know this, this's not that's not gonna be very popular what I'm about to say, But unfortunately in the NFL is still stereotypes. Sometimes we hear the stereotype about the black quarterback, and

you talked about his height. I think Christie McCaffrey is suffering from the stereotype of a white tailback, and that's just the guy out of the truth, because if he was a black running back, I think we'll be talking about him as the same likes as Reggie Bush. Remember Reggie Bush was like, is Reggie Bush going first or second? And we're taking Mario Williams and Reggie Bush. This guy is every bit the player Reggie Bush is, but I think he's a little bit tougher and I think he

can be. He's you know, we're talking about Reggie Bus. Reggie Bush was always bounces outside. This guy doesn't mind going in between the tackles. He's got blazing speed, he has everything. I think everybody still suffers with the stereotype that what does it, what does the white tailback? Because they haven't seen it in a long time, not since what's what's the hercles guy from U from from Denver.

You know that was on the cut to the cover of Batten And it comes to me later, I know you're talking about that was up Payton hillis and that that was a different type of rutter. This guy is the modern day Reggie Bush, better, more doable, and more experienced, more seasons. How about that. We have a great crowd here at My Life Stadium tonight. You're taking a look live here as people continue to file in. Yeah, some noise out there. How about a couple of side usually

get out of it, get excited. Here Eric Allen alongside Richard Ronello, Bart Scott and Zach Stacy. We're talking running backs and since worth. Since we're broadcasting live right now, are we? I thought we've tamed it. We're gonna edit all that stuff. Let's talk about the statement. Let's talking about broadcasting Bart, because the guys here a lot just got back from broadcasting bootcast. Was that was JB there? I don't think he was this year. I think he was.

But it was a great experience, man. I definitely to hol at you before I leave the end of the day. It was a great foundation, man, just getting your food into the industry and a lot of this stuff about learned. It's all about credibility. That's why there's a certain train that's going on right now with PAM players getting into this industry. I think that's good because the credibility factor

is a big thing. It's in his industry. When keeping it real goals wrong, you just can't be afraid to step out there if you believe it saying and don't apologize about it. You know you might get some text message from some former teammate and listen, you got a family to feed. You're trying to boot make the transition to the next phase of your life, and you have to be honest, old you don't say it in a condescending way. If you mess up, you mess up. I love you, but I got to do you. I gotta

call you out. When did you know that, hey, listen, after my career is over, because we always talked about it at the Jets facility, said, and you're gonna play until everything falls off, so all the wheels are gone. But when did you know that? Hey, listen, once I make the transition, because you're a successful businessman, um, we're gonna do some broadcasting. So you know what. I never intended to go into broadcasting. What happened is people told

me they thought I would be a natural. And what I've learned along my my journey is you never know what other people seeing you. But you don't discredited because somebody can see something you didn't you don't see it yourself. And listen, I'm never afraid to fail. So I said I would try it. You know I tried it. I got a great opportunity coming right out the gate at a great network CBS, and you know we were taking it from there. But you know, I never had a

plan um to step off that way. But when when people told me about it, I just start planning seats. Let me, let me, let me look into the jests in case. You know, so TV was my jest in case, and it was a good jest in case. No doubt you're doing this job. Everybody in Jet the nation continues to watch part of Scott and follow some uh zack. When you look ahead to the draft and tonight, what are you most looking forward to? As far as a Jets perspective is concerned. We were talking about it when

we came on Live tonight. The Jets head obviously the number six overall selection. Mike mcagnet has said he would like the stockpile picks, but he said, I'm fine where we're at two. So if we're gonna select somebody, we're in good shape. From a Jets fans perspective, what should they be looking out for? I think that's she looking at O. J. Howard from from Alabama. Other vote for O. J. Howard.

I think L J. Howard is the best missfit foroo is with his office right now, we don't do what you know, it's just obviously you know chan he didn't really utilize the tighten a lot. Uh. We you know we had can we see do a lot of things with you know, miss matches and stuff. But you know O J. Howard, with him being six six, two towns and athletic, he's basically a beat receiver. And one of the things that I watched whatn't we approved on was

this blocking. Each and never year he got better at blocking, so he's able to cover guys and he as a running back extra tight end blocking in that scheme, it's very valuable, all right. A curveball for the followers before we let you go, Zack, um, see if the guys can follow me back in the studio. You want the Vanderbilt. So I gotta ask you about Zack cunning Hammer too. Was it tackling machine down in Nash Forward? Uh? What can you say? Give US a scouting report on Cunning happened. Well,

he's a lone guy rangie guy. Uh, he's has that versatility to play inside and out because you know, Benny played that three fourth games, so he unfortunately had to move for opponents. I say unfortunately for opponents because he made a lot of plays in the inside, but also he made plays on the outside too. So a very long rangie player kind of reminds me of that just Lon Chandler Jones type player able to get to the quarterback great motor. Uh, He's he's special, man, He's special.

That's Stacy. Everybody give him a round of applause. Here at my Life Stadium. Uh, you're watching the two thousand seventeen Draft show at all Jets platforms were brought to you by m c U. It's the official credit union of the New York Jets. Rich Sermonel alongside myself and Bart Scott as well. Guys. Moving on, let's talk about the quarterbacks. Mitch Drabinsky. Um, we talked touched upon him a little bit before. Looks like Cleveland has some interest

even if they take Myles Garrett number one. Overall, how about the Shawn Watson give me a breakdown. Rich Well, I'm surprised to be quite honest, that he has slipped in terms of projections. I think this time of year, I think we all suffer from a little bit of paralysis through analysis. We overthink it. I've watched Deshaun Watson over the past three years, even going back to his

high school days in Georgia. If I'm drafting a quarterback, I want someone who has those intangible somebody who's smart, somebody who leads, somebody who knows how to win. And that's not a suggestion that he doesn't have the measurables. As the reg was at measurables, he could make the throws. He needs work ea with his accuracy and his decision making. But he's three years out of high school. I think he's gonna get there. I think you can win a lot of football games. I think he's gonna be a

very good quarterback at the next level. The most important stat I think when we talk about Deshaun Watson is thirty two and three. That was his record and money time you talk about, you know, experience throwing the throws in big spots, understand the situational football, and you gotta be careful with Mr Busy. Is he talented, yes, but it's the ultimate boom of bus y'all played with Kyle Boehler, who didn't have a lot of experience in college, came

in and couldn't make the adjustment. You talk about Josh Freeman, who couldn't make the adjustment. You talk about you know, some people even make the argument about Mark Sanchez maybe should have stayed in a couple of years long, you know, a couple more years to get experienced, because what happens is you have to be in these situations. And what happens is you know now Martin, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, they set the bar, Dak Prescott, they set the bar

so high that guys come in. If Mr Bisky comes in, he's not gonna get a red shirt year. He's gonna be forced to step in either. Later in the first part of his rookie season and had to produce and sometimes team just guys just need to sit back, have an opportunity to think about what Carson Parmer had when he had kidnap, was able to sit back, learn how to prepare, be easing too it get comfortable with making the calls to checks, not being a shotgun taking your

proper drops. I love to see a rookie with no experience because if he hasn't seen everything in college, he definitely isn't prepared for a defense that I played for.

So it can be either boom or bus. What I like about the Shawn Watson You're talking about two championship games when he did against Nick Saban and that defense put up those type of video game type number us, but coming up big when encountered the most, putting the team on us back when they needed to drive in marching down the field and making the planes that his team needed to win a national championship. I wore winners

to quote Mike Singletary, my old friend. How about that part, Scott, Do you think Watson is deserving of a top ten selection tonight? Well, it's tough, and it has to be by the need of your team, right, certain teams. Absolutely, if you feel he's your guy, you gotta go get him. If you have other needs, if you're a team that maybe need to address some other needs, you're gonna get

the best player available. But if you have a team that can support of Watson, like Dallas had, last year like we had when we have Flato, like where we have Mark Sanchez. We had a strong running game, a tremendous offensive line, We had outstanding special teams. When you have that, then you can go get the story defense right and bring um up to speed. And I'm trying to think who has that type of situation. It would

be to Houston, Texas. That's the perfect place for the Shi Watson to go, a place that has I believe Lamar Biller home run hitter. You talk about the receivers on the outside, Hopkins, DeAndre Hopkins, will Fuller, talk about the speeds and Tach the top of the defense. All all they need is a young quarterback that can only get better as the season progressive win the game ugly. You talk about the top defense in the NFL with about J. J. Watt. Okay, so we'll have to see

where Watson goes tonight. But Rich, after Trabinsky and Watson, what do you looking at Because a name that's been really hot of late. If Patrick mahomes out of Texas Tech playing that air Raide system, that's a monstrous jump to the National Football League. I know Bart has some comments on that, but let's start with you. Ray Listen. The one thing I would want to just spell is that Pat Mahomes is strictly a system quarterback. Now right now we're gonna go head to head. There isn't he

with Texas Tech. Yes he is. But but this is not Cliff Kingsbury, This is not Graham Harrold, this is not d. J. Simmons. Cliff Kingsbury is the coach. Yes, and there's gonna be a transition, there's no question about it. A different offense he's gonna have to run. But I look at the armed talent bard, I look at the ability to improvise and make froze outside of the pocket.

I'm not saying he's a year one starter, but I think in the in the landscape of Texas Tech Air Raid quarterbacks, he is a good level or two above what we've grown a customer, unbelievable arm talent. You have to say that he's a tremendous athlete when we're talking about Mahomes, and he's very interesting because he throws the ball at all different angles. Bark God take it away. So so was Kyle Bowler talk about that Cows system

as well. And I'm from Detroit. I grew up a Detroit Lions fan, and I remember a guy who threw the ball all over the place. And I swear he couldn't hit the ocean if he was in a boat. When I watched him playing else Andre Ware, you know he he couldn't. And one of those systems system quarterback, and and I wonder, can this kid stare down the barrel of the gun and still deliver the football? Is

he tough? Because what happens is when you're playing college with these spread offenses, then what happens is you rarely get hit because people play coverage. They don't let you. So now you get a false sense of security. Guess what you you you go empty? Are you? You? You you have one back in the back field? You have no tight end. He spread out. People are gonna attack you and see, hey, they're gonna let you complete the ball. They're gonna see how you like getting off the ground.

I want to see if he's tough, is he accurate? Is endurable? And that's one of the course you have when you talked about a younger like that, and him jumping up the board like that means that he's pretendingly to the first round means that he may have to play. Can I give him a Micraine and you can do what you want through Terminalo And that is that way that is gonna is that way they heard making friends. They might talk about the je pretty quickly. I see Hits.

I'm not saying he's the sick coming. I see Hinson style of play to Yeah, has all time interception brecerd So we've prett Bart you're talking about alright, So accommodation other quarterbacks in the mix early in the draft, of course, the Sean Kaiser on a Notre Dame. He's got wonderful armtown and himself played with some pro passing concepts at Notre Dame under Bryan Kelly, and he Kentucket and run Um. And then you think about guys like Josh Dobbs, guy

who played at Tennessee, a successful quarterback there. Nathan Peterman out of Pittsburgh participated in the Senior Bowl. Well, let's talk about the Jets quarterbacks. We touched upon Josh mcnow McCown before, but what about the young passers. Christian Hackenburg a second round pick out of Penn State last year, he had a red shirt season. Then Bryce pretty fourth round pick up Mike mccagnet and mccagnet first draft. So let's touch upon two thousand fifteen and talk about Petty First.

To me, I I was not impressed by Petty late last year. I mean, it might have been an unfair situation that he was thrust into. Uh, he is transitioning from a system that's an athema to what he's obviously seeing in the pros. In terms of Christian Hackenburg, listen, I thought it was a curious choice at the time. I was concerned about him coming out of college. Did not see the progression that I expected initially under Bill O'Brien. And you know, I look at Christian Hackenberg and two

words come to mind for me. Trace McSorley. Trace McSorley takes over at Penn State last year, and that is a completely different program winning a Big Ten title. Uh, Hackenburg was not able to get it done. Listen, If the Jets draft a quarterback in the first three rounds, to me, that's a that's a blatant signal that they're not happy about the future of Hackaball here a couple of things. Uh. Hackenburg then tent always was that he was gonna have a red shirt ear Remember Ryan Fitzpatrick

won ten games. The Jets tried to put the band together again after they set a franchise record in terms of total yards. So Hackenburg came into a situation where the plan always was for him to absorb the system. Now he will be working with the quarterbacks coach and Jeremy Bates and a new offensive coordinator in John Morton. Jeremy Bates has been lauded for his work with a lot of quarterbacks throughout the National Football League, including most

notably Jay Cutler. So if you're Hackenburg, you're looking at this as a reset in Todd Bull said, hey, listen, we're having an open competition as the quarterback position. But what I like in this in this offensive system, they unilst of tighten, which is a young quarterback's best friend. You know, that outlet, somebody that you can dump the ball to, somebody that's always a lot of site. Yeah. I think for Bryce Petty, it's it's time for him

to make the next step. You talk about going into his third year, the game to start to slow down for him. He's gonna have a competition last year. You know, the uncertain of what's Ryan coming back? Is he coming back? I think that could have stirred the room up a little bit. But coming in with an open competition, you know, you gotta do your mess. You know you gotta step up because this this thing is wide open. You know,

Josh McCollen is a short term solution. So one of these guys have to step up and dare to be great. And it starts in the classroom and starts in the offseason. It starts by we're trying to become a leader. You talk about young guys are gonna have to step up on his jet team and be leaders now because they can't depend on the real reevers. They can't look to their left and see Nick Main go. You know you got David Harrison. That's it. So it's time for somebody

else to come up. And I don't want to discredit Mohammed Wilkers sent some of the older players that's been here, But what I'm saying is it's time for some of these younger guys to step up and be leaders. It's okay since the first Fridays tonight, I want to talk about two players two years ago that Jett said the number six overall selection in the draft, they took a guy by the name of Leonard Williams, and Mike mccagnet

stuck to his guns. Best player available. Leonard Williams played, participated early on and he was a factor as a rookie when he took a sophomore lead last year and he ended up in the Pro Ball. This is a young guy. I think the sky is the limit for him. And then last year the Jets at their successful campaign where unfortunately they finished out of the playoffs. Um they took Darren lead in the spring. The guy who played next year Buddy David Harris, and got a chance to

learn on the run. So what I'm gonna ask you, Bart Scott, is can Darren Darren Lee now take a similar jump that Leonard Williams did from years one to two. I believe so because now he's more comfortable with the bourbage, and you know, the biggest lead comes that second year because you stepping a rule with What he has to guard against is being we're confident, because sometimes you come and you think you know more than when you really know.

He has to keep that humility. All he has to do is look to his left and see David Harris, a guy that's a workman, like, a guy that puts in the time, puts in the effort, a true professional. If he can take and learn a little bit of what David has with his speed athleticism, he definitely can be every bit the player I believe with Sasire is up in Pittsburgh. Yeah, and that would be tremendous for this Jets team. And he's still playing next to the

heart of the defense and David Harris. And who better learned from than a guy like David Harris who's seen it all and all by the way, he's second and franchise history in terms of all time stops. Um let's stay at the linebacker position the Jets a couple of years ago. It took Lorenzo Malden. He has a new outside linebackers coach in Kevin Green. What were your thoughts when the Jets uh signed Kevin Green to lead their outside rushers? But I did. I think he's in such

energy personality. I think he's going to yeah, credibility, has the track record, has the resume. I think the young guys who even never saw him play, I think they're gonna realize very quickly that This is somebody who knows what he's talking about and is passionate about the sport, and I think that resonates throughout a locker room. I think Todd Bowlds first first practice, official practice needs to

get a Kevin Green highlight tape. This man was. He played we we always say he played with his hair on fire. And I think he should have been in a Hall of Fame a lot sooner than he did. But he's a great player. What a person, what a what an asset to a resource for a young outside linebacker. You know Kevin Green playing as a d N. He played as a stand up in Pittsburgh. You know the really lean on his knowledge and learn some of the tricks on the trade. I think Molden could do well.

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extravagance rolls on on all our platforms. Where I wanted to ask you about Kevin Green, he started talking about the credibility he brings to the Jets. Um, what do you think about Kevin Green as a wrestler, Because folks at home right now are watching the little action package of Kevin Green in the w c W. That's funny now, I remember those days too. You know that's a man after my whole heart. You know I love wrestling Kevin Grid. I forgot who he was aligned with me. I mean

it just finished personality. He was an animal mart Rick Flair and well, I think he has size of bash on the Nature Boy. But the Nature Boy had to swang over him and probably hit him with a high gal a flip over the rope when a clothes line came on. I gotta been a finger four lea. I love that. You know I love wrestling you. You give me all exciting. You know what you're doing. You're trying to give me loose. So here's the deal. Kevin Green is Mr Intensity. He's gonna bring that on the field

for to the Jets. Young edge rushers Jordan Jenkins played really well for the Jets down the stretch last year. Lorenzo Malden enters critical season four himself. But Bert, one more question about wrestling. What about you and TNA, because is I got a stay at home? We're watching you right now with Kurt Angle getting you in the ankle lot the tap bot. You know I want to rematch, especially not a curse a little bit older, not that next stepping up a little bit. But how about me

and Kevin Green getting our old tag team. Let the fans come up with the name, and let's go out and go to Restabania SummerSlam next year. So Kevin Green and Part Scott is a tag team? What do you all think about that? Probably Emy and Ivory Ivory. Okay, fans are coming into MetLife Stadium, You're gonna be able to watch the Jets pick over to our right. NFL Network is going to broadcast that live. We have a couple of minutes here on stage, webbing. Tremendous fun up here.

Eric Ellen on stage at Ltlife Stadium alongside Rich Serminalo and part Scott. The folks are really happy. Bark Scott in the house. Um, guys, we just had a little bit of fun. But let's touch on something really serious here. Character and medicals play an important part of the draft process, and let's talk about Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon punched a female student and later the video was released. Ohio State quarterback Gary and Connelly has been accused of sexual assault.

Just days leading up to the draft, Florida defensive tackle Caleb Brantley was charged on suspicion of misdemeanor battery following a physical altercation with a woman where Brantley allegedly struck a woman with a closed fist. Um Mike mcagnant addressed this issue because he was asked about, Hey, Joe Mixon on your board, He said, for competitive reasons, I'm not gonna say whether he is on our board or off our board. He said, I would say simply we don't

take it lightly. I had no problem whatsoever taking players off the board. From that standpoint, I'd rare refocus on players that are good players and ideally good people and good members of our society as a person who used to lace them up and being the locker room on Sundays, Bart Scott, Bart Scott, your thoughts. But for me, you know, for everybody out they don't know. I was a mentor to Ray Rice, you know, and I've watched you know,

him basically lose his NFL career. But I've also watched what he's done after the incident and him become an ad advocate for domestic violence. And listen, it's not about him trying to look good to get back into the NFL. He's continued to do the work even though he knows now there's no chance for him to get back into the NFL. So everybody deserves a second chance, but they have to truly be sorry and truly be willing to put into work to try and address the issues and

understand the reasons why and understand that his conserquences. And you talked about an incident that took place in two thousand four, team he hasn't had any incidents since then, you know, so, I think you go and you do your research, You go and find out what type of person is because at one point in my career I was suspended and kicked off the team because people thought I had bad character. I think anybody know these since

they understands that that wasn't the case. Sometimes you're making pulsial decisions not not apologize to make the chances for what he's done. But if he's truly sorry, everybody deserves a second chance. Because talking about a young kid that was eighteen years old, you know that can't be the narrative for the rest of his life. He still has an opportunity to change the narrative ritual. What are your

summary your thoughts there? Because obviously, like Cobart said, uh, folks get a chance for second for second chances, an opportunity for second chances. But with that being said, if you're a team and you're not comfortable with the player for an egregious mistake and you don't think this person has learned from it, hey do you take him off the boy? I mean, this is potentially a toxic situation.

I think it's a fascinating situation because if we look just at talent, this is a first round running back. I think this is a back end of the first round running back. He's a fantastic prospect for me. I think this is a decision that really reaches the level

of an owner. I think an owner probably has to give a blessing on a Joe Mixon because I think it could really affect the franchise from the public relations standpoint, He's gonna have a very thin margin for error, and now he's been vetted over the past couple of months psychologically, so I think teams know whether or not this was an isolated incident or this is a potential powder keg that could erupt again in the future. I completely concur

with bart. Eighteen year old kid deserves a second chance. Has been cleaned at Oklahoma ever since. Then. Let's hope that that trend continue. Bottom line, Uh, there's no place in society for domestic violence. And we all know that there's no place in society for domestic violence. And I think it's good that teams are paying more attention to this as far as the character is concerned. And then you talk about the medicals as well. We're here at

MetLife Stadium, Eric allen Rich Sermonalo part Scott. It's the Jets annual draft party. The Green and White Faithful on hand. We got about five minutes lost in the show, um Rich, we haven't even talked about the defensive backs at length, so quickly, just how deep of a class is this? And if you don't take a guy like a Marshawn Lattimore in the first round or Quincy Wilson from Florida, how can you attack that position and day two and feel awfully comfortable about it? Yeah? I mean there's a

real preponderance of talented corners and safeties. So if it's not a Marshawn Lattimore in the first round, I think the Jets can clearly take a give the defensive back in the second round. I think about someone like Kevin King, who was overshadowed in Washington. Great size, great measurables, and you know, not to make this into a Husky infommercial, but you know someone like Sydney Jones who was phenomenal for the past three years. Yeah, but he has the

achilles injury. But you know what, that Achilles injury is gonna heal and I don't see a drop Hall remember this name bouda biker safety and Washington. Oh yeah, I love Bloody Berger. But I'll tell you I notice kind off the subject. But I would love to see mccagnet moved back into the first round and go get an outside pass rusher like Derek. Where's my guy, Derek Barnet?

If he could pull that one off, Because you talk about the great interior pass rush, we have a registering litterard uh Wilberson date with the Jets have always missed that outside pure passed rushing. When you have that, that makes up of the sands. We play standing up bart and I play standing up real quick. I think he can who cares? I remember it around to real sucks and he never dropped the covers in his life. He

turned out to be a pretty good one. So Barnett, I don't know if you can get them in at the back end of that first round. You might have to get him early so that the Jets have a ton of options Tonight. Mike mccagnet has said, hey, listen, we're in a good position at six, but you want to call me, give me a call. And by the way, the Jets phones are working at one Jets Drive and we're going back to the facility. But before we go back to the facility, because I gotta cover the draft.

You have a Mick draft to where the Jets taken to night. Run through one through five really quick. Who's the sixth overall selection? Yeah, Myles Garret number one. I've got you call Adams number two, Marshaw and Lottimore to the Bears at number three. Four net So, Jacksonville had number four Solomon Thomas, I think is probably my favorite player in this draft. Stafford defensive lineman number six. J E. T S Jets. Jets Jets. O J. Howard about back

red Sermonal says O J. How from Alabama? The Jets start there? What has been Jets that I concur the messages off fencing. Okay, that is the draft show. What a program we enjoyed. It brought to you by m c U it's official credit Union in New York. Jets. Thank you so much for tuning in, and thank everybody here at MetLife Stadium. The fun is just beginning. The Jets are getting better tonight and they're getting better this weekend. Thanks. Thanks. I'll tell me why