Sitdown with Team President Neil Glat (9/20)

the New York Jets and Neil Glad. We will talk to him later on the show. He sat down with him. First Thing's first d A team one and one now after the home opener, very excited to play in Mattlife Stadium for the first time since last season, and unfortunately came away with a loss. You gotta put that near rear view mirror almost immediately because this is a short week. I thought the effort was fine, and there were a number of times when I really thought the Jets were

going to seize momentum away from Miami Dolphins. I know that sounds crazy, because they were facing a twenty to nothing deficit at halftime, but they came out took the ball at the beginning of the third quarter at Sam Donald let him right down the field and blah, Paul puts on a nice move. I think it was twenty eight yards out on that pitching catch and all of

a sudden it's six. The very next play from scrimmage, Ryan Tannehill looks at Jordan Jenkins and said, whoa and losing the ball in the process, and JJ is right there. You got the ball at the twelve yard line, and you think in this place is ready to explode. It's going to be twenty to thirteen and there are still ten minutes left in the third quarter. Unfortunately, Sam Donald's first path after the takeaway was intercepted by Xavien Howard

and it was a tough road from there. For me, that was the turning point of the game is just because like what you said, is the place was ready to erupt, and uh, I think just on the Jordan Jenkins plays, it was kind of reminiscent of the Thursday Night Bill's game this year. Yeah, except kept the ball. Tyrone got destroyed. Yeah, I mean Jordan Jenkins sack Tyrod and it was nearly a safety. You can't have fool hid with the boot too many. Yeah, I know, I've

been very impressed with that. But we talked, You talked about putting it in the rear view so that game see it. We're moving ahead now because yeah, and I would just want to say is that it's very difficult in this leak to overcome twenty to nothing, defice it, and you gotta play complimentary football. And that's what the Jets are going to have to return to Thursday night.

So let's talk about Thursday night. For second. Here is this is a Browns team that is oh one and one and they tied against the Steelers in Week one, probably should have won that game, could have at least tied against the Saints. What was the final that game?

The Saints on eighteen and the Browns field goal kicker at the times A Gonzalez, who, if you recall, I believe missed at least one, if not two field goals against the Jets last year in Cleveland, missed an extra point, a game tying field goal to tie the game with zero seconds left for making so then the lead against New Orleans for most of y and they played that game at the super Dome. You're looking at or you're looking at a Browns team that easily could be two

and all. The thing for for them now, Greens is mentally, where are you at? Because that team didn't win a ballgame last year? This is a dangerous opponent to your point that they easily could be two in all, but you know, the Jets gonna have to have a great week of preparation and I get ready for a team

that frankly has a lot of playmakers. All right, well, just quickly here, if you're a Jets fan and you know a little bit about the Browns, Let's say you haven't watched Hard Knocks, so you know just the fact that there one in thirty one in the past two seasons. They're all one in one now. But you talked about them being a dangerous team. Is who's one guy on offense and one guy on defense that you're you're saying, Okay,

I gotta watch out for those guys. If you're a Jets fan, Jarvis Juice Landry, the former Miami Dolphin who didn't play obviously Sunday because he's now in Cleveland East tough as now you can run all the routes. He is an energy guy. He's like a small que for the Jets, you know. And I'm not saying that Noon was ever put up the numbers that Jarvis has. By the way, I think Quincy is gonna have a big number season. Maybe we'll talk about that later because after

two weeks he's got like thirteen catches already. But I digress Juice Landry and then on the opposite side of the ball, Miles Garrett is an absolute freak. Yeah, I was gonna say, on defense, you gotta pay attention to Garrett. He played his first NFL game last year against the Jets and I'm pretty sure he had two sacks in that game. But of Josh mcconnyeah, Yeah, this dude is

a freak. I mean, he's a monster. So it doesn't get any easier after facing Robert Quinn and Cameron Wake because this guy can bring it and the Browns, uh, they're they're kind of dirty and a nasty way on defense, and then it was just looking ahead here a little bit is then you play in Jacksonville against the front seven that maybe the best in the league. So it gets no, it gets did you see any of that game, I guess they pounded the Patriots. I didn't see any

of it. Which let's not overreact, every buddy. I'm not a Patriots apologist, actually on the opposite. But we've seen New England. We've seen New England before. I lose a couple of games early. Okay, let's let's not say it's the end uh for New England or anything like that. Just that just speaks to how good Jacksonville is. But for the Jets, you cannot worry about the Jaguars at all. Otherwise you're gonna be one and two and then I

have to go to Jacksonville. For the Jets, it's put Miami behind you, concentrating on the task at hand, get back to playing complimentary football, take care of the ball, and get off the field when you can defensively, and and scratch out a win because this is going, this is going, no pun intended. Yeah, alright, real quick here on the Brownes, you talked about Juice Landerie. For me, on offense, it's Tyrod or Tyrod, however you want to

pronounce it, because only he tells people. It's Tyrod and Tarrod, So you can't go wrong there. But the Jets did a very good job against Taylor when he was a member of the Buffalo Bills last season, and I think in order to have similar success, you have to be on your p's and ques against Tyrod this week on Thursday night. Because he's mobile, he doesn't turn the ball

over a lot. But what the Jets did last year is they collapsed the pocket, meaning that the pocket just shrunk and he had nowhere to go, so he had to throw it. And that's how the Jets had success last year. So I would look for that, and not to mention, the Browns don't have Joe Thomas anymore, so send the house and we'll see what happens. But now we talked about it before Neil Glatt came in studio, sat down with him. This is our talk with the president of New York Jets. All right, this is a

very special time on the Official Jets Podcast. You know e A and I are always here. Now we have Neil Glatt, the president of the New York Jets, in the studio. Thank you for coming, no, thanks for having me. It's great to be here. Well, you are a loyal listener. It is overdue for us to have you on the podcast, Neil, You've a president of the Jets for more than six years. His time flown, but it does fly, It does fly. But it's great to be part of the Jets. It's

great to deal with Jet fans. They are terrific, they're loyal. Uh And UH, every game is different, every season is different, so no days are dull? What is for people that don't know? As you started out in the league, so what what was intriguing to you about going from a league perspective to a team perspective? So I think at the league you're dealing with a lot of league level strategic issues that implicate all thirty two clubs. When you come to UH, the Jets are come to an individual team.

You're all in. It's one team. It's all about winning on the football field. I spend more of my time thinking about how do we enhance the fan experience and how do how do we do great things off the field. Uh, And it's just being part of a small, nimble group. The league experience was terrific and fantastic and I wouldn't trade it for anything. Those issues are big, broad issues and you read about a lot of those in the paper as well. As what you read about at the Jets.

But for me, it was the opportunity to be part of the organization that Woody Johnson already built and hopefully contribute in some way. How different is it for you coming into work on a Tuesday morning after the Jets beat the Detroit Lines on Monday night football, and now on Monday morning after the Jets lose their home opener to the Miami Dolphins, as opposed to just coming into office at the league office. It Uh. You know, when I was at the League office, people would always say,

don't call a club after a loss. Don't call him that Monday and or that Tuesday. And you you knew it kind of intellectually, but you didn't feel it the same way that that that you do at a club. You didn't really understood it, and you can kind of articulate it, but until you've lived through it, you don't know. Look, we're we're we want to win. Everyone in the organization is rowing in the same direction. Whether you're a player or coach, or somebody in the front office or somebody

working on the business side. You're you're here to win. Uh, this is what you come into the office to do. Every day and so the highs are really high. The lows, unfortunately, are are low. But also you have to be a professional and really kind of by noon the after after a win or loss, you kind of got to get ready for the next one and get ready for the next event at the stadium, get ready for the next game,

whatever it might be. It's like it's like the one game or the one day rule that the players have. But it's the business side. On the business side, I think to me, it's it's really by noon, Yeah, let's let's let's let's let's go guys. And but you know, part of it is that next day, Um, you're interacting with fans. Fans are calling into the office, and so you have to be prepared for for for a winner

or loss. Well, what's a day in the life like for you, not you know outside of it in on a Monday, just for fans that don't know you talked about that you're thinking about ways to enhance the fan experience. Well, what what is the day in the life of Neil Glad in the office? Life? Every day really is different. Um, we're in a business that there's a lot of uh intensity to the business. Fans are incredibly engaged. So it

could be after a game. You could be dealing with things that went well on game day, things that didn't go well, how do we address it so by the next game. If there was something that happened, uh at the stadium that you want to improve upon. If there was something on the scoreboard that a feature that worked, well, let's do more of it. If there was something that we didn't think we got this the fan reaction want

peop well, let's let's let's think about it. So after a game, there's always a lot of recaps and strategizing and planning. Uh. It could be something that is in the media. It could be something involving working with the players on a community relations issue, so you really don't know. It could be a sponsor is looking to activate in a different way. So the great thing is, uh, you know,

it keeps it extreme incredibly exciting. Is the variety. Um, but it is a singular focus on a winning football game. So anyway that we focusing on the business, I can help the football team and then obviously the fans, well you you keep us on point. And I always tell folks about this because when you have an opportunity to meet Neil and maybe express concern or also express hope or optimism or happiness with something that's going on. Neil

always relays things on two people within the organization. So with that being said, if somebody comes up to you and say, hey, you know, I saw something at the stadium that didn't look right, you follow up immediately with within whatever department you have to reach. You have that personal interaction, and I think that's a great quality to have because you don't let it go either. Anytime you speak too fit you said, I've been this. I'm going into my seventh season. I've been at the Jets over

six years. Uh. When I came in, it was impressive how much people cared. And so if if you see people who work for the Jets on game day or at an event throughout the year and they hear something from a fan or a business partner that's not working, well, they're not gonna say it's not my job. Uh. And that and that starts with me. If there's something that we can do better, we're going to try and do better.

We will follow up on it. We have uh, you know, every three to six months, we'll have a fan of what we call a fan advisory board will invite anywhere from twenty to fifty fans. Usually we'll do it here at the at the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center. Often they'll have a chance they'll be an impromptu stop by by by coach Bowls or or or by Mike mcagnet, so they get a little bit of of fun football stuff. But we're really it's serious business for us at that

fan advisory board. We really want their feedback on what's working, what's not working. And you'll see, including me, everyone's taking notes um because we certainly want to get their perspective on what's working and what's not working and uh and those conversations are critically important. And what they don't see after that meeting is there will be a number of follow up meetings where we're just going through it to do list and a checklist based on what that fan.

And speaking of that, you just came out of a meeting where you guys did basically you're after action report or what happened at the season opener? Yes, and we do that after every game and can leave me do it after every event. So when we finished training camp, what worked well at training camp? What worked well? At Green and White, and then what would you do differently next year? Because the season is fast and furious, the

offseason fast and furious. So if you don't really take that time when it's fresh in your mind on how do we improve sometimes that gets lost in translation. Come next year when you're ready to do it again. You have such a before we jump topics here. I think you have a really unique perspective now after six seasons here and then fifteen at the least, So you're talking about just kind of what goes on through your head

on our game days at MetLife Stadium. Well, I want to know when you're on the road, are you looking at what different stadiums and organizations due to potentially enhance the fan experience? Like you talked about before, like how how do you take in a game? Not at MetLife Stadium. It's exactly what you said. We are looking at what they are doing, so what kind of music are they playing before and during the game. We will look at what their concession offerings are. We will look at their

prices to see how we compare to their prices. We have a new initiative that we call our Bump fifty fifty where fans can buy essentially raffle tickets and win some jackpots. Well, the choit's done a great job of that, so we were out in Detroit. That was something we kept our eye on. So for us, the great thing is everyone competes in the NFL pretty intensively on the field, but off the field, it's pretty collaborative organization, and so clubs all want to get better. We want to get better.

So if they're working on something, uh, we're gonna go out there and ask a lot of questions and look around. Similarly, we rolled that when we rolled out our rewards program and our digital ticketing solutions for five years ago. Every club that came in was asking us how it went. We gave them tours. Uh, and you know, we're happy to help other clubs in the league similar to the way they're helping us. All Right, so much to get to because we got to talk about what's new on

game day at Motley Stadium. If you're our Jets fan, are you gonna be attending Jets game this season? And we want to talk about the new uniforms. But first we gotta ask about Christopher Johnson. Whatdy Johnson of course, serving as the us and pastor of Great Britain in Northern Ireland. What has Christopher been like? It's the CEO and your interactions been like with him. For people on the outside, they see Christopher and he's a likable sort,

but you have an intimate knowledge. It's his passion. I think the fans have heard from him and seeing his passion for football but also his passion for the fan experience. So Christopher's out in the parking lots a lot, similar to our fan advisory board. He's talking to a constantly and similar to us taking notes. When fans raise issues, he will act upon it either directly or share that with others in the organization and get us going on it.

It's been a fairly smooth transition. Uh. You know, he's a terrific person and you know first and foremost, but as somebody to work for, he can have a conversation with him, you can problem solve with him, and so, uh, you know, nothing but kudos in price. He's on top of a number of things organizationally, but also he's also

into the latest workouts and a sharp dresser. Christopher Johnson, you gotta he gotta get a lot of He's got a lot of passions um and in terms of a lot of things we're doing with the players, in terms of off the field issues, He's developed a great rapport with the players and so we're working with them on a number of social initiatives and other community initiatives, and

Chris's leadership in that area has been terrific. There was a great photo last week of Christopher down on one knee and Jamal Adams down on one knee and those two just talking at PRAC. This is pretty cool. Actually, before that, Christopher Johnson, as the team was stretching, he was on one of the bikes always he was getting to workout and while watching practice, he's putting pressure on all of us exactly. Okay, so we've talked about game

day a little bit. Here is just to dive into it is, if you're going to the Jets game this year, what is new about the season? From the experienced standpoint? Summer, subtle, um, but more dramatic. So a couple of years ago we put out what we call pilot Vision, so we understand that fans are coming out, they want to see the action on the field, they want to see the highlights and the replays of the game that's going on, but we then have pilot vision. They also want stats. They

also want to see the out of town scores. They also want to see the red zone from time to time. So how we program that. We're always trying to think what is the fan today? How do they want to consume the game when they come out of the stadium. But it's different. You have eighty thou people out there. Some want to be on their smartphones a lot, others don't. Some grew up, you know, sitting in an upper deck listening on a transistor radio. Others don't know what I'm

talking about when I mentioned a transistor radio. So you try and strike that balance. And uh so a lot of it is the scoreboard features. So those are those are new and different this year. We're also doing, uh some different things with music. Um so we announced probably about a month ago we have a partnership with Deaf Jam Recordings and they're great partners. So that's you said mentioned the stadium. So the runout song uh was done by some of their artists and so that's been a

lot of fun. We in fact had Marcus May and Jamal Adams going to the studio with Jada kiss Um and they were working on some some music opportunities together

and what we call our hype videos. So when we get videos out on social media and Instagram and the like on a Friday before a game, a lot of that's going to involve def Jam Recordings and I'm in the studio of Jets three sixty Productions, so a lot of that's produced by by the excellent guys and women in this organization who produced that content, including the two of you. So that's that's gonna be a lot of fun.

We also are having a kid today coming up on October seven against the Broncos, and so we're gonna have a lot of fun things for the kids, including w w E and they bring some of their superstars out and their terrific entertainers and there are a lot of fun And we had the miss at our what we call our upfront where we kind of introduced a lot of our our new events and new activities, and these guys just have a lot of fun and the kids will have a lot of fun with them, and we'll

do some of that before the game and during the game. The last one our game against the Vikings, we're doing some things with Marble and so that's obviously an amazing entertainment company and we're thrilled to be working with them. So the first number of people coming in the building and get a bobblehead. Coincidentally, maybe not that coincidentally, we're playing the Vikings, so it's kind of going to be Holp versus four. So we're doing a little bit of that.

So we we spent a lot of time thinking about we know what the action on the field is, what people really care about, but anything we can do just have a little bit more fun when you come out. We we know people investing a lot of their time, so we try and get creative and some of that we do on our own, and some of that is doing with some of the great partners that I just mentioned. There are a ton of exciting um game day themes before the Jets throughout the two thousand and eighteen season.

What is the genesis of the new uniforms? Everybody's asking the genesis uniform? Why like the hottest button it when we have the man himself, It starts with us and his vision for wanting to do something different with the uniform and so, uh, you know, he put together a working group internally, but working closely with people at the league who have worked through a number of uniform changes over the past x years. And so this is years in the making. This is years in the making, and

also working with Nike and they do terrific work. And uh, it's a real iterative process. I mean it's been it really has been years in the making, and it's looking at everything for all kinds of different designs, all different kind of logos and other things that might go on the uniform and uniform changes are subjective. Uh. Ownership loved it. Um. Some of the people on the you know, on the football side who have seen it love it. And but

hopefully the fans will love it. And so it'll probably be officially launched in March, um, and we're gonna try and make a little bit of hoopla out of that. Um. Uh. Again it's subjective, so just one man's opinion, but that

I think the fans will like it. I do think you're gonna see the Jets go through basically all their uniform combinations here in two thousand and eighteen, because you've already seen the all white with the white face masks against the Detroit lines, you're going all white against lets we know that we got the I thin it's the great Dapes mask. Also for the cold scam. Yeah yeah. And we had the green out, like we mentioned against the Minnesota Vikings, the traditional green and white against the

Miami Dolphins for the home opener. I know we'll see the green pants and the green out's gonna have the color Rush uniforms. So then the one that we originally was rolled out on Thursday nights that pop I think would we played against the Bills a couple of times with that. Um, those decisions, you know, are really made by coach. Interestingly Coach, you know, I think he's always trying to anticipate what's what's the best kind of He's got his little private label down there. He's got the heads.

Sometimes I see coach on that's we gotta get that, you know, we got we gotta get that to fans, we gotta get that to other people the building. He has some great stuff. He's watching the press conferences and he you know, he always comes up to me. He says, Yep, coach got a new label today. Yea, yeah, people are asking me about we respect his style? Yeah, like it and so I think I think he'll have I think

he'll have a lot of fun with the new uniform. Also, we gotta go off, Yeah, we gotta go off the field. And we know you're big into movies, into TV shows. So for fans that don't know, one, what is your favorite all time TV show and movie? And two is well, what are you look? What are you watching now? My all time favorite TV show it probably a Seinfeld? Um. Do you still watch it in syndication? Watch it every night?

I do? Well, I do. I actually record him and I watched him in bulk, you know, at the times and uh, you know, so I might be watching not a Jet game of sporting event. I'll pause it for a little bit and go watch an episode and and then come back and catch up on the game. What was your conversations like with Larry David when he came around? You know, just listen he You could just see the brilliance. Honestly, you could see the creativity. He is laid back, relaxed, um,

and he's actually he's an enormous Jet fan. Yeah, I know, but he's funny. He was very impressed with how clean the launch area was downstairs, and you could just see he'd be you know, he's one of those guys. Pull up, pull up a seat and you'll you'll enjoy yourself. Yeah. What about what about the movie? The movie? Uh, Gladiator is probably that's one of those movies. Whenever it's on, you know, I'll get sucked in for a half hour.

What's been on a lot lately? As Good Fellas? You can kind of see kind of my my demo at work here, but kind of good action oriented. Are you big Russell Crowe fan? I like Russell Crowe? Yeah, yeah, he's great. And Gladiator, Yeah, Gladiator. I actually saw both of those movies for the first time like two years ago. Behind the April. Yeah it's great. Yeah, a little history, little dramatization, good action, get your ready, run through a wall, kind of every emotional state you can get. Okay, how

about streaming series? We sometimes, Neil, we'll go on a plane and you'll catch up on something and you'll get into a series. What's going and some of the coach that some of the coaches will recommend some shows at times. Uh, this summer I did Sneaky Pete. Okay, this series I'm waiting to come back in October is ray Don, Yeah, you're gonna I've always seen a couple of right the games, So it's Green's top shows. Yeah, and he's a real gentleman. And he's the voice of Hot Knocks. Yes, so he

I'm among the other. Yeah, but he's got a lot of the HBO sports stuff and when you hear his voice, it's one of those great voices. It is. So what were you about that? Yeah? What what do you guys? Streaming? I'm always kind of what what could mean? What what can we stream in the offseason? Kind of gets in the busy season. I think I've told you about this before. Is peeky Blinders Netflix a big peaky I'm just fan that your culture. It's like ninth turn of the century British,

you know, none of this pretty Los Angeles. He's like our Sam Donald here. He's an old soul, right. I hear great things about that. I'm all in on Peaky Blinders. Um. I watched in college The Sopranos and I like that a lot. Believe it or not, I have not done the entire Sopranos. I've kind of probably seen a season and a half. Of people have said to me, I wish I could replicate watching it again when you get

the chance to watch it. So I'm looking for I asked him about the ending when he started to mentioned, but we'll have to I did see the last episode. What was your thought? So I just saw the diner scene, and you know, I don't I didn't know enough. I didn't have the same investment yet because I didn't commit the number of years to the show yet. Neil, let's bring a full circle come back to the Jets here. You talked about it. It's all about what happens on

the field, and we're trying to enhance that. Um deal like what you're seeing as far as this team coming together, having some young pieces, drafting a quarterbacks performed well early on in his career and Sam Donald and you know you're set up salary cap wise. I believe Mike has said it. You get the most cap broom, so you got the financial flexibility following this season, we think about some young pieces on defense, whether that be Jamal Adams

or Leonard Williams or Darren Lee. An offensively, Quincy and Noon went back and yeah, do you like what you're seeing out of this team and the way, uh it's set up for the future. I'm always an optimist, Um, but absolutely, Um, you know, you saw some of that potential on Monday night and uh, you know he certainly got a lot of turnovers and and and and got you know, some breaks, but it was outstand ending. Um. And you see, uh, when that team can play and

the talent that they have. And to your point, Um, the coaches are only making guys better. And uh, we have a little bit more cap room this year. If it's not spent this year, then it rolls over to next year. And then then Mike and his team sitting down with coach bowls, can prioritize how do they continue to upgrade the roster. So, um, you know, I'm looking forward to an exciting season and and the fans that we've spoken to, uh, you know, similarly share that sentiment. Yeah,

I'd agree with that. So three games in eleven days Cleveland Brown's Thursday Night, another time for the team to be playing in front of the nation, So a good opportunity here. And then ten days are prepared for the Jacksonville Jaguars, a short week, so I know that's tough on the guys and uh, and then hopefully we come out victorious, and then they kind of get that many buy and some guys who are dealing with some you know,

injuries and other things hopefully get healthy. And then you go down to Jacksonville and then you get that three game homestand which is very unique in the national four three games in October one o'clock games. And we're expecting great crowds for that. And as you told me to what should I tell the fans is, you know, we're looking to do some great things. So hopefully we'll see as many people who are listening to this podcast out of the stadium as possible. This was a thank you guys.

We talked about movies with Neil. He talked about The Sopranos ending have you seen the end? Yeah? Okay, Well for so what happens? Well, what what's your take on it? I think he lives. I think that the whole idea is that you're supposed to feel like you're always watching behind you, looking around, like who who's gonna like it's this guy gonna off me? Is this guy coming from my head? But I think that in the end, because of what had transpired in the episodes earlier and who

had died and who was no longer there around. I think that means that he isn't the clear. He's always watching his back. Okay, So if you're my thing is, if you're the director or creator of the show, is the thought process to obviously it's the number one is to leave you hanging. But for them, what I would like to know is that do is that their only goal?

Or did they have something in mind whereas they in their mind had him killed or the family was taken care of, or to your point, he's just going through this process of taking a look who's coming through the door, and there's a strange man there and all that other stuff. So I don't know how that all works. Okay, So just just tying things up here is I know that we mentioned Juice Tyrod and Miles Garrett, but the Browns also have some other weapons on offense. Who you want

to talk about? Do I? I don't know, carlos On. I thought you wanted to talk about Najoku I did. Yeah, Kellaway is an interesting rookie who had some issues off the field at Florida and yes on hard knocks and we all witnessed that for those of the folks at home and watch hard knocks like us. But yeah, na Joko is he is a dangerous tight end and kellaway. If he stays on the straight and narrow path, he could be a big time weapon in the National Football League.

Carlos High came over from San Francisco in free agency and then another guy Defensively, they surprise a lot of people not going with the pass rusher to pair him up with Garrett there, you could have went with Bradley Chubb. And they pulled the string on Den's award and everybody's like, oh, Den's award. But came in Week one. Two interceptions of Ben Roethlis not a bad start, right, Ye had two picks in his collegiate career, so I immediately tied that

in Game one. The other thing is, and you know, this is going to be like a super Bowl the Thursday night in Cleveland. And I don't say that out of disrespect. My meaning here is that this city loves or football team. They haven't tasted victory in so long, and also the National spot night will be on them, so they are going to come ready to play in

that atmosphere, and that it's gonna be election. Well, what I will say is though no offense, no, no. But what I will say is being in the locker room after Sunday's game, the Jets locker room, is that you could tell how upset the players were, how upset the Jets players were. So I think moving forward, I think this team is gonna be ready to play, although it will be a dog fight, like you said, And just another guy on defense is probably that a Pro Bowl

linebacker last year that nobody talks about. That's Joe Schobert and Christian Curtsey led the NFL and tackles a couple of years ago. Oh yeah, they're linebackers move all over the place. So I think it's this is not your your brown's evol. This is this is a tough game and it's a short week. And if you're I don't know where to tune in, I'll tell you right now because it's on NFL Networks. There's not a football a Jets brown And that's all we have this week on

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