Senior Bowl Preview with Jim Nagy (1/17)

well real quick. He took over as executive director of the Senior Bowl in June two thousand eighteen. He spent eighteen years in the NFL. He was an area scout. He was a national scout for four years with the Chiefs. He was a part of six Super Bowl teams, four of which hoisted the Lombardi Trophy, the Packers, the Patriots two times, and lastly for the Seattle Seahawks the Sky. No scouting, you don't get this. You don't get a position like that unless you are a well respected person

within the National Football League. You think about what Phil Savage did there for so many years, and I think this is a great move for Jim and his family. He lives down there and Mobile and knows that area, and he also brings that background of being a longtime

scout Greens to the process. So he is going to think of it in terms of how can I showcase the prospects and get them acclimated to NFL conditions that they will have to prepare for if they're gonna be playing on Sundays in the National Football League, and he's gonna take them through the entire week. You know, I believe you're gonna go down there with our guy Frank Tank. You'll be covering this for the Jets. I believe you guys are going down there on Monday or Tuesday, and

then practices Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday and Wednesday are the big practice days, and then they scale back towards later in the week. Know, ultimately, you got your game on Saturday. But I'm sure Jim is gonna do a tremendous job. Jim views this position as a stewardship to the city of Mobile. That's what he said, And I think that what's really stuck out to me is really how quickly

he hit the ground running. And we'll talk to him about this shortly, but Jim said that he and his staff of scouts that helped pick the guys to send invites to the recent Senior Bowl. They talked to NFL teams to see what players they want to see down

and Mobile because that's that's their customer pretty much. And the players are gonna go through a week of what it's like to be like in the NFL up to the point, up to the detail where they're off day Friday in this case, the day before the game, schools and hospital visits, just like a Tuesday in the NFL when players have their off days in the regular season

and they do different community league exactly. So yeah, you're he's down to the button because I think it's great for all players and not to mention when you look at smaller school prospects. I mean last year Nathan Shepherd was a Detawol prospect down there. Marcus Davenport was a first round pick and at the time he was not regarded as one. Will her Nandez, second round pick for the Giants, had a great week down there in Mobile.

So the Senior Bowl, while it may not be as it doesn't have the amount of prospects as the combine has It's still a very valuable time for both the players and the scouts and the team. It's more intimate. I like it from that perspective. It feels smaller, even though a lot of NFL personnel are there. It feels a little bit more relaxed than Indianapolis. The Combine is such a monstrous event as the NFL takes over that city.

Indianapolis got a different field down there, and mobile is the NFL offseason really begins in earnest because he kind of if you're taking people through the calendar, is that Senior Bowl Week is at the same time where some of the NFL's bust will be down in Orlando, Florida for the Pro Bowl. And then that weekend actually there's Jets House in New York City. And then after that you start looking forward to Indianapolis and the Combine and the start of free agency. So this is all gonna

happen really quick. And for you avid listeners, here is a green favorite that you're going to have to remember in the months ahead. That is Andy Isabella from You Mask. That is an Ethan Greenberg guy. Oh yeah, Green's loves him. I can tell he's a little bit smaller guy, quick and fast as heck is. Jim will tell us about so that you mass a minute man, a minute man, but he probably a guy can run the mile seconds.

All right, we talked about them. But no better person to talk to about the Reese's Senior Bowl then the executive producer of the game. Here's Jim Naggy. All right, Jim, let's go back to when you took over as the executive director of the Senior Bowl. We know you have a decorated resume as a scout in the NFL, but what appeal to you about this role? Well, yeah, guys, it Uh, we've we've've lived in Mobile for eleven years, so this is this has been home for us. It's

my wife's hometown. We were we're bouncing around the country, um, with scouting for for a long time, and when we started having kids, it got to be a lot. So we really wanted to get closer to family. So we've been in Mobile and then, uh, this game has has meant a lot. You know, it really means a lot

to the city of Obi Hill and Mobile. Baldwin County is down here, you know, seventieth annual game this year, So really when the out when the when the job came up after the draft last year, it was an opportunity for me to just a quality of life move. You know, the NFL scouting thing is is really a grind.

You're on the road more than half the year, um, and it's a challenging profession when you're single with no kids, and it takes on a lot of different uh impactually a lot when you when he's got a family and my son is going to be high school age now and he's playing high school sports, and I just started to miss all the good stuff. So when this, when this came open, I really, um phil compelled to jump

at it. And you know when I called the Seahawks, you know, John Schneider r GM was great about it. We were really good friends, and he's great with my family. And I said, John, you know, if I'm not there, guy, I can live with that. But you know, I don't want to be sixty seven years old and look back on two doves in an eighteen where I had a chance to maybe change um you know, changing circumstance for my family and and and not do it. So I just went for it, and thankfully things worked out well.

The reesea Senior Ball, as you know, Jim, the pre eminent college all star game for the past sixty eight years. And I know your staff is striving to improve the event for the National Football League. So what were your first steps once you took over this new position. Yeah, we you know, we first thing locally, we we created a thing called the Senior Bowl and Bassador Club. So we've got a really rich history down here, um football

history down here. And I wanted to create a create a group for for all the former players, for all the former NFL guys that are that are from Mobile and Baldwin Counties down here, and and a lot of them that have played in our game. I mean, just and just create a group, um, you know, where guys could give back to the community, create a brotherhood for them.

So that was really the first thing I did. We've got fifty eight guys signed up right now, Like right now, Mobile's got sixteen players Mobile and Baldin County of sixteen active players in the NFL between our two little counties, and uh, that's third most of any community in the United States. So Miami's got twenty four, Houston's got twenty, We've got sixteen, So um per capital, that's pretty amazing.

So I wanted to do that, which we did. And then really on the football side of things, Um, you know, I hired hired a scouting staff made up of all former NFL scouts, guys that I've worked with that got let go in last year's you know kind of hiring firing cycle. And uh, you know, again, you work in football, You're gonna lose your job at some point, and you get caught in the crosshairs, you know, and in a regime change or whatnot. You know, a new GM comes in.

You're not You're not a quote unquote his guy. Um so, so guys don't get let go. So yeah, I hired four guys to help me cover the country geographically. It worked out perfectly this year. Um so we scouted it up. I had the Southeast and we we we cut it up in the in the fifth and cover the country.

Had a couple of scouting assistants here in in house, and then uh, you know, just hit it really hard trying to make this thing like the thirty third personnel department, and uh, I really just tried to revamp um the way we we did our scouting and handled the football aspect of the busines. How do you feel like you're what you just mentioned is going to help the game

itself and help the players that accept invites to the game. Well, it's it's really gonna help our rosters, right, So we you know, we UM, you know, having an experienced group of guys that know what they're looking at. And you know, the hard part for us is we don't have a budget like an NFL team. You know, we don't have a we don't have a billion dollar owner. UM, so

what we can't do we you know, our scouts. We don't have the budget for guys to be on the road all the time, you know, taking flights and staying in hotels. So we really needed a really connected, h network of guys that have been in the league forever.

So the four guys that sixty nine years of experience, So whether that's connected to the school and having and you know, networks with all the schools have been too into in the past, or network of other scouts UH to reach out to and find out about small school

players that you know, maybe slipped through our cracks. It was really important to UH to bring that group together and again, UM you know, I might have to staff that on a yearly basis just because guys will you know, obviously want to jump back into the league when they can, so it might be an ever changing process for us.

But really it really worked out great. You know. One of the last phases of our was of our of our process was once we had our board created and built and we felt good about it, you know, in all the games and and tape we've seen, we uh, the week of Thanksgiving, got got together with seventeen NFL teams and got on the phone with either college directors or general managers or sometimes both of them were on the call, and you know, guys that had access to

their entire board and all their grades, and we just kind of we went through the board and okay, at that point, I've invited sixty players, went through that group and made sure those guys were okay with the first sixty, and then we had you know, we had about another thirty year marked of of guys we really wanted to invite based off the way we saw things, um, and then we worked the cut line at every position, you know, so there's for for example, if there was three spots

on the defensive line, and we had about nine names. Okay, you know, going through the teams, which of these nine, like, who would you want to see in those three spots? And we just took detailed notes and you know, these rosters are for them. We're we're building these these rosters for the thirty two teams who are really really wanted to use their input, um and UM. So that was kind of the last last step of the process. But it's been great, you know, I mean, it's it's been exciting.

That was really the most rewarding part personally for me is just to see all that hard work our football staff did, UM and building that board and how much we were aligned with the with the thirty two teams. There really wasn't a lot of variants. We saw things very much the same UM. So it really was a reason it was really an easy roster build this year. Jim, you spent eighteen years in National Football League areas scout all over the place, like you mentioned, the West, the Midwest,

the Southeast. You were a national scout for the Kansas City Chiefs. How much did you enjoy coming to Mobile as a scout and being able to watch all these different players from different conferences from big schools, from smaller schools out there on the field getting coached up by NFL staffs for the first time, and hopefully, uh later on they'll be able to benefit from those experiences as

professionals if they ultimately become NFL players. But also that opportunity to sit down with the guys at night and interview them. Yeah, you guys, it was a critical week. Um. It really is a critical part of the process. You know, working in the league, you always saw this week as the kind of the unofficial kickoff to the draft. Um draft process for the This is kind of the first phase All Star Games and then you know, combined and then Pro Days and then and then Draft Day. So, no,

it was. It was a big week. It's great to see, you know, it's great for the smaller school guys to kind of see them up on a on a big stage against the big boys. That's always big, you know, just to see the competitive nature of some of these players. See it comes out in the practice field, being able to get down right there at field level. Um. See some of the drills, really, some of the one on one stuff is really valued heavily in the NFL. The old line, d line, and the corner wide out one

on one periods. Linebacker running backs are are huge. And again, like you talked about the interview processes is uh plays a big part of it too. So you finally you get to go into the schools in the fall and you get a lot of the feedback from everyone in the building, you know, coaches and support staff, and you

really try to figure these players out. But the All Star Game is really that the first time you can get your hands on them yourself as as an NFL club, So that starts the process of trying to you know, create those relationships, getting to see what makes these guys tick, where they came from, UM, get all those questions answered. So it's a it's an absolutely huge week. And again coming to Mobile was great because, uh, it is a smaller town. It's got a it's got a smaller town

vibe to it. It's not like the Combine where where it's Indianapolis and it's crazy and you know how big city. This is a little more flower paste, a little more relaxed. The interview process was easier for the players. Um, just because it's not uh, you know, in any it can be a little more pressure packed or is here it's it's more relaxed. So it's just a great deal. You know, all the scouts love coming down here, and the coaches

love coming down here because they're they're all creatures. The habit they you know, they go to the same restaurants, in the same bars, and um it's to walk uple downtown. So once they get down here to their hotels, they can, uh, you know, they can just enjoy themselves. So it really was a week that everyone looked forward to. Before I Ethan asked his next question, I just wanted to ask, what are you you are living down there in Mobile?

Top three restaurants that you have to go to. For any NFL personnel who are going down there when they get a chance, maybe away from practice or away from a meeting or away from an interview, where do you

gotta eat? Well, I will I don't want to offend anyone down here because I'm I'm friends with a lot of these restaurant tours now, but I will say, if you know, the Mobile Bay separates um Mobile and Baldwin County, So we're right on the water down here and on the causeway crossing over the bay, there's there's a lot of great seafood spots, um, so whether it's uh gosh, there's the Original Oyster House, and there's the Blue Gill,

and there's Ads and there's felix Is. I mean, all those places have great seafood, you know, fresh out of the golf And that's what I know, that's what most guys in the league look forward to, just come down here and get some shrimp and some gumble. Uh. You know, we got that creole flavor down here, um, and I know guys love love to come down there and get that stuff, all right, Jenn, Before we dive into the players,

I just want to ask one more thing. As a longtime scout, what are the benefits of going down there, whether you're scout for a team whatever, Royal Area Scout, National Scout, whatever, what are the benefits of being able to have this early access to the players. And then from the player's perspective, how helpful is the Senior Bowl Week?

Because from everything I've read, you really trying to emulate an NFL week even up to their off day which is on Friday during Senior Bowl Week and making hospital visits and local school visits. So how helpful is it for both the player and the scout. Yeah, we talked about it's it's huge for the scouts because you really it's it's your first opportunity to try to figure out the players. Right. So, um, the longer you scout, I mean really watching the tape and and figuring out the

player to me was the easier part. The harder part is figuring out the person. And you know where they came from, and you know how much do they really love football and everything that goes into it in the grind of it? And um, you know, how how are they wired? How will money affect them? You know, is

that going to change how they approach things? And just to you know, in that week, I mean you see these guys at the hotel and how they interact with their coaches and just to you know, over that week you really get a glimpse and how these guys handle the business. Do they show up for your schedule meeting on time? You know, how do they dress? How do they you know when they're walking around the hotel, how do they carry themselves? Um, so all that stuff plays

a big part. It's really you know, you you go to the combine, you might get them for fifteen minutes, you know, and then again it's such a they're they're so busy there with medicals and psychological tests. Um. You know, you you just get your hands more on them here, if that makes sense. Um. So that that that's a critical part. And they're getting all they on the field stuff. Seeing how they're taking coaching during practice. You know you

could you're right there at field level. You hear the coaching points the coaches are trying to make, and then you can see how they take the coaching, how they apply the coaching, so you can really get it in clued in on a guy's learning ability, um, his ability to translate coaching. So, I mean, all those little things make a big difference. Um. You know, it's the first time you really get to see their body type. It

weigh in. So you know, you go out to practice, when you go into the school and you see what they look like in their paths, but you know, going to the way and you really get a better field for body composition and um. Again, a lot of guys work ethics shows up in their body right. We're all we all have different genetics, but certain guys, look, you know, you can tell who's worked and who hasn't um those ways to to to a great degree. And then for

the players, um, it's hugely it's critical for them. I mean, one they've earned it. It's a great opportunity for them. Um. I think that if you asked all these guys when they were coming out of high school, is you know, three or four or five star guys that hey, in four years, we we promise you that you know, you've got a senior boy invite weight And I think every

single one of those kids would take it. Um. So that's why to me now sitting in this chair, it's interesting where guys would would back out at this point and not you know, not not embraced the the opportunity they have because you know, to be coached by two staffs,

I mean, just to impress those two teams alone. I know that if you go back and look at teams that have coached in this game and the correlation of the amount of picks they've used on the players have actually coached your mobile, it's it's pretty amazing because they do. They get that, they get a real view of the player, what he's like in the meeting room, how he learned, and you know, they feel like they've got a really really good end you know inside look at these players.

So yeah, for them, it's it's a it's a huge week. At first, it shows their competitive It shows like that they're the innate competitiveness of a guy, which is important because you know, especially coming up on that second contract. Again, like we talked about the money part of it. If you're even a you know, second third round pick, you're not making money is going to set you up for your whole life. I mean, that's coming on the second contract.

So you know, I mean, guys want to know who are the real competitors because it's not gonna matter once they make that big second contract if they really love it and really competitive. So I think showing up down here shows the NFL teams that how innately competitive these guys are. And then just from a you know, if you just look at from the process, like I talked about the interviews, coming down here and getting a lot of these interviews out of the way, it's huge for them.

It clears there played it for the combine. And also we started doing psychological testing down here a few years ago, which knocks a bunch of that off their plates. So when they go to so really it makes the combine to much easier process as well. Not only do they get the benefit of being down here and being around the teams and showing what they can do on the field. Um, it also clears up and makes that combine week easier where they can just really focus on their on field

drills that week. All right, Jim, let's turn to personnel here. Uh, I think the Jets are pretty well set at the quarterback position. It took Sam Donald, uh with the number three overall selection in the two thousand and eighteen draft, and he had a fine rookie season, and uh, the Jets have high hopes for him and what he'll be able to do with the new head coach here and Adam Gates. But let me ask you about the quarterback class there who is heading to Mobile, including Daniel Jones.

I see a few interesting names there when you look at Ryan Finley from Ency State, Well Greer from West Virginia, West Virginia of course, Trace McSorley Penn State, Drew Lock Missouri, Well Greer West Virginia. Uh. Is this the best depth

that has been there at the quarterback position in a while. Yeah, And guys, I've been coming to my twenty three game, so and I'm really not trying to say this because of the chair I'm sitting in now, but I don't I can't remember I went back over like the last fift Keen rosters, like last year is gonna be pretty hard to beat in terms of having elite players. I mean you had Baker go one, h Baker Mayfield go one,

and Josh Allen go seven. So obviously last year's group was great with two top ten picks, but from top to bottom, um from one to eight, I mean, it's really incredible, incredible depth. I mean, just going over this group with the NFL teams, I mean they're really excited about this group. You name most of them and then you're throwing Gardner Minshew and um. You know Clayton Thorson

from Northwestern is another guy that I know. Speaking with the Northwestern people last year, he was thinking about coming out early. Um, so they were putting out fielders to NFL teams about where they thought he might get drafted. Well, he ends up blowing his A C L in the Bowl game last year and coming back. But you know, they've done their preliminary work. In the in the building, north Western and the ten teams they reached out to

they had second and third round grades on Clayton. So I mean he's kind of a name that people are just glossing over with this roster. But um to have ten ten second or third round grades a year ago, um, just telling you what the league thinks about him. So yeah, I really fired up about that quarterback group. I think there's you know, three or four of those guys that could get in the first round. And said Ryan Finley. Bryan Finley is another guy that, um, you know, people

aren't talking a lot about. Ryan Finley was the highest graded guy by the Combine Scouts last spring headn into this year, so um yeah, from top to bottom, it's a great group. Yeah. And even we didn't even talk about stid Hum either from Auburn, who has h a lot of upside. I think, so that's gonna be a group to watch, uh for a lot of Scouts in

attendance there. Donomobile, Jim, I want to ask about this pass rush group because I know a lot of Jets fans are eager to find someone to get after the quarterback. And you look at Montes sweat I think that's someone that a lot of fans somewhat about. So what do you what can you tell fans about Sweat? And then who are some of the other guys that you would say, you know, don't sleep on this guy. This guy is gonna be shooting up maybe in April. Yeah, you know,

Sweats a really intriguing player. He's, uh, he looks like a basketball player when you see him, and he's really long. He's got an eighty five inch wingspans, so he's got that length everyone wants to see what. He's also got really heavy hands with that lenk and that that's not always the case. So when he brings his hands, he can really separate from blocks and get off people. Um, he's gonna he's gonna run fast. He doesn't always look

fast because he's so tall. Um, you know, the foot turnover is not like the foot turnover of a you know, a smaller guy. So, but he can really cover ground with his drides. He's got over twenty you know, he's got over twenty sacks the last two years in the SEC. So you know, really he's gone against top competition and been been a really really productive player. Son Montez is definitely you know, in that first round, May uhs an edge guy, and I would say, I mean it's a

really good group from top to bottom. We could sit here and you know he goes seven or eight deep by that edge group. But the next guy from me, UM, I'd like to bring up as a guy maybe your listeners haven't heard a lot about. It's a kid named Jalen Ferguson from Louisiana Tech. You know, he ended his career at the all time I think he tied end up tying Terrell Suck because I believe um to be the all time career college fax leader. I think he hit in his Bowl game like forty four or something

for his career. UM pretty amazing. So again he's another guy that um, you know, Marcus Davenport came down here. So I that yeah, you know Davenport came down here is probably an early second round projection, and uh, you know, you fast forward to draft day and he had a really nice week down here in practice and also in the game. He had a strip sack in the game, and you know, the same ended up trading up for Marcus is like the he was the thirteenth or fourteen

to pick. So Um really helped himself. And I think that that Jalen's in that mold and Eland is actually a little looser as an athlete. He got a little more shake to him. But to get another long bodied guy, um, it's explosive off the edge and hard to block. So um. Yeah, really talented group. If you know, I, I was so consumed with this college stuff this year, I didn't get I didn't have a lot of time to really, you know,

focus on what's going on in the NFL. I don't know what the Jets team needs are, but if they need pass rushers, they'll be able to They'll be able to find some down here. Well, we're taping this here as uh Adam mc gaze coming on board here from the New York Jets, so we want to see what defensive system they're running in two thousand nineteen. But hey, let me flip the the offensive side of the ball again, because the Jets are definitely gonna had some pieces around.

Sam Donald will have to see where in who starting with free agency. But this wide receiver group is also intriguing to me. You're talking about a guy like Jalen Heard who played at Beller who used to be a running back of course at Tennessee. Anthony Johnson. Uh, a big target out of the University of Buffalo. That's not a school that we hear too much out of UM, but their football team is really making waves lately. Deebo Samuel from South Carolina. I think that guy is a playmaker.

I think he's like in h Quincy and nowan wall mold. Uh that he's the guy who made a lot of plays. Then unfortunately had the injury early on before last season, but then he came back and finished the year. And then David Sills a productive player out of Western How about Andy Isabella out of you match talked about you don't hear a lot about Buffalo. I feel like you don't hear anything out of you mask. Yeah, yeah, you mean you hit a lot on a lot of this

big names. Um. Is it just I mean, let's speak to Isabella really quick. I mean, he's a guy that you know, he's a he's an underseta. You know, he's a shorter white guy. So everyone's gonna everyone's gonna say, oh, just pitching home him as a little Patriot slop player. But he's uh, he's not at he's not you know, people are gonna think quicker than fast. He's actually way faster than quick, and he is quick. But this kid

can really fly. So um, just for background purposes, and he was a high school player in Ohio, ran track, He won a hundred meters in the state of Ohio. Were in a ten which is flying, um for a high school kid. And in that same race was Denzel Ward from the you know, it was the fourth pick last year to the Cleveland Browns and he placed third in that same race. So the ten six two. So um. You know Denzel ran four three four at the Combine last year. If you're just taking those numbers, I mean

Andy Isabella might be a high for two guy. Um. So he can fly and uh, really productive. He was a really easy guy to invite to this game. I I drew on like two games and I knew I wanted him here. He uh, you know. And then after we invited him, he goes down to Georgia late in the year and puts two hundred yards up on Georgia. So um, really really productive player. He can fly, He's good with the ball in his hands. He was a

high school running back. Um, I think He's gonna be a play maker at the next level, really really really exciting. We talked about Deebo Samuel at South Carolina. Uh, yeah, he he had the injury early last year. He got off to a really hot start as a junior and probably would have come out as a junior, but then I had a bad leg injury. It was a little slow coming off that this year, but really late in the year. If you look at the Clemson game, I've had a couple of NFL teams reach out to me

and like, man, have you seen Debos Clemson game? And he was he was off the charts. Um, so he looks all the way back, which is which is great. And then uh, you went down the list and I got another guy that pops out of that group for me is Jacobe Meyers, who's a junior from North Carolina State. So he's a guy we kinda had earmarked off all knowing that possibly would come out and you know, he can come to our game because he's graduated already. You know,

we are the Senior Bowl. But they made they had a rule change a couple of years ago where juniors could come in the game if they had their diplomas so um, and that's why kids go to college right and go there to get their degree. So why you know, why penalized guys if they're if they're juniors, if they've already taking care of their school work. And you know, Jacoby went to m C State as a quarterback. They converted into wide out and he's really a natural at

the position. That's what sticks out when you watch him. He's he's got a lot of savvy as a route runner. He's long, he's got unbelievable ball skills, and people are around him, you know, And that's the thing for college receivers. He he spread offenses. A lot of these guys are playing pitch and catch and there's a lot of space where they catch the football, um, Jacoby, And then they get to the pros and they really struggle when those

windows are tighter. Jacoby is a guy that can really make plays with people around him, and so we're excited to get Jakobe too. It's it's from top to bottom, a really really nice group. Jim. Just one final question for you, thank you so much again for joining us here. I want to talk about the offensive line and who are some guys that pop to you and what kind of experience do you think this could be for someone like Max Sharping who went to Northern Illinois or smaller school.

Do you think that that is the kind of person the kind of player that could really excel and sho up the draft boards because of Senior Bowl week. Yeah, gods, this is this group, you know, going over the board like we did, like I talked about with the with the seventeen teams when I when I did that back in November. This was the position group that they were.

They seemed the most excited about, um, you know, the last couple of years, just you know, working in Seattle and seeing what our draft board looked like at the offensive line position would come draft day. It was it was really it was really lean. So, uh, this group we're really excited about. We've got both Wisconsin guards are coming down, Michael Theater and and our guy bo Ben Shawell probably gonna butchered that. We'll just we'll just call him he goes by he goes by bow bench on

on his Twitter, So okay, that's easier. And uh, you know he got Michael Dieter, who's who's you know? To me, he might be a first round pick. Um. And then we got the Oklahoma guards. Powers and Samia are both good players. Caleb McGarry at Washington UM, and it's just I mean, it's really really a strong group. A lot of these guys can play multiple positions. Um. You know, they're smart, they're tough, they've all played a ton of

football at a high level. Um. A guy that really sticks out to me might be might end up being the best left tackle in this whole draft, is Andre Dillard from Washington State. You're not hearing a lot about him. You're hearing Joanah Williams name from Alabama quite a bit. Um. But Andre Dillard, I've I've spoken to people in the league. You put on the tape to watch Gardner Minshew on the quarterback and then you see this guy dancing out

there at left tackle and you're like, holy cow. I mean, he's got great feet and great feeling past protection and just can stay in front of people. And that's those guys are. Those guys are hard to find. So Andre Dillard is a guy that I think will build a

lot of momentum out of this week. And you talked about Max Sharping definitely, Um, you know Mac level player and then we those guys always have something to benefit and even we've got a guy Titus Howard from up the road at Alabama State, which is in uh Montgomery, Alabama, a couple of worse from us. And Titus is another guy that's got left tackle tools. I mean a lot of these college guys that come out, they're really they're really right tackles, only at the next level because they

can't handle that speed off the edge. And Titus is a guy that's got the feet and got the athleticism, and now it's gonna be how does he answer the bell on the big stage against the big boys. He did it in the one game they played this year against Auburn. He played really, really well and that's when my phone uh started ringing off the hook with with buddies in the league. They're like, wow, have you seen this kid from up the road? And thank god I

had at that point, I didn't. I didn't sound dumb, but but Titus really made a name for himself against Auburn. And we'll see how he does down here during the week. We're excited for him. So yeah, it's it's a it's a big week for all these guys. But that's there's gonna be some really good matchups in there's one on one pass rustrial. Well, you already you got me ready for football. I know Jets fans are gonna be here

to take it all in gym. And congratulations to you and your family as he start out your second career. We shall day. Yeah, I appreci I appreciate it, guys, and uh, you know, look forward to having everyone down here in Jets fans. Yeah, keep an eye on us. We've got the practices on the SPN every day and the NFL Network every day and the games on the NFL Network. So um. You know people up there that can't make the trip downtomobile, they can watch every minute

of it. Great, thanks Jim. We'll see in mobile alright, guys, Thank you many thanks to Jim. You can follow him on Twitter at Jim Naggy Underscore s B for Senior Bowl, not Super Bowl. I assume so great stuff from Jim. You can really tell that he puts a lot of thought behind this. And I will say I don't know if he's listening right now as we record this, but

you mentioned Frank the Tank. Frank the Tank yesterday told me to watch Jalen ferguson highlights, because you watch him the other day and he said he liked him and shown off. Jim Naggie likes him too, just the way Jim talked about him, and knowing how pass rushers are value National Football League, and I kind of getting the feeling that this guy is gonna be a first round pick. I could, yeah, I mean for sure, I don't know

what he's projected now. Davenport, remember we were talking, you were down there last year and number he studies rob but he's got a great athlete and all this stuff. Who would have predicted that the New Orleans Saints would have traded their own one in two thousand seventeen, I mean eighteen and there one this year in order to get up Davenport. And they're hoping he can cause some damages. He's made some splash plays down there in the big,

easiest season. Yeah, I like those ends the Saints sends. You got Cameron Jordan and then opposite him as the young Davenports, So they're happy with him. So yeah, listen, over the next a few weeks and then months, we're

gonna you're gonna start hearing more about different names. Sure for the last whatever twelve last six months, we've heard about to Trevor Lawrence and these kids w Lane freshman quarterback for Alabama to us, I guess the sophomore, and then Lawrence, it's the freshman, and everybody's saying he's gonna be the top overall pick in one. Well, tank for Trevor has already started on Twitter. Let's just get through

two first show. We I totally agree, And I thought what Jim said about Ryan Finley was extremely interesting, that he was the highest rated guy at at the combine last year for this upcoming year. And I know that last year's quarterback class with Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald and Josh Allen and Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson, I know

that was a very QB rich class. And I think that the discrepancy between last year's class and this year's class, sure, there's a discrepancy, but I think Dame Bruegler said it best of the athletic I think that it's a little over The group right now is undervalued. He believes that there are still a lot of quarterbacks that will go in the first round and Wayne Haskins going number one overall. I think top three. I think top three. I don't

know about number one overall. Kyler Murray's he'd been drafted in the first round grade. There's been a lot of steam of this morning about the video. Have you seen this video? Yeah, Cliff Kingsbury said, I take of number one over Yeah, I know. So he's the number one overall pick. I don't know if he's controlling the roster there in Arizona just yet, but we'll find out, and then it would be crazy. And another name, the guy who who I really think you mentioned family, Let's stay

in acc you're gonna say, Daniel. Yeah, I think he can, I can. I think he can really help himself with a strong showing it. And so again this is and I'm so curious what we would have said this time of year last year about the guys that ended up going in the first round and whatnot. Like Marcus Davenport, I don't think was on anybody's radar, at least from a fan perspective. Of course, he was on the radars

of the scouts and whatnot. But you didn't hear a lot about Marcus Davenport, and he didn't hear a lot about Will Hernandez. He didn't hear a lot about a lot of these guys up until the Senior Bowl. And then there's all these late risers from the Senior Bowl to the Combine and then the combine of the draft, and so this is just the start of the process.

But Nathan Shepard, yeah, he had a great week in the Senior Bowl, well early on and his yea early on he really flashed and that helped to stock, no doubt about it, and he became third rund pick, and then he ends up starting most of the year for the Green White. So the Senior Bowl is very helpful time of year, especially for teams. Like Jim said, just get to know the guys and get to know what

kind of people the players at they're scouting are. And yeah, we'll have to see you at My guy, Andy Isabella, he said, faster than quick. Holy crap. He said that he ran faster than Denzel Ward in high school and Denzel Ward three. Yeah, a low for three. So is this Isabella, like he said, Jim Nagy, a high for two guy, he said, Jim Naggy, if he didn't catch this,

I'm gonna rebring this up because he Canna. All right, well Andy Isabella, you mask minute mad all right, well, whatever the competition is out there, put up two hundred plus yards over on Georgia. Yes he did, and so go watch his highlights. They're fun to watch and that's the key to the draft. Yeah, you got hit early, but what kind of gems are you gonna find in the third round. I'm curious to see how he plays. And let's see how many draft picks the Jets have

once they get to April. Right now, it's at number three overall selection. That's a good place to be sitting at because you have your quarterback and uh, some teams are probably gonna acquire uh, depending on the draft falls. But teams are gonna call up the Jets. It's gonna happen. And we'll have to see how free agency plays out and things like that. Right now, the Jets don't have any second round picks now they need apples. Trade last year was very interesting with the Green and White on

March seventeenth because the Colts had their quarterback. They go back from three to six and they pick up a trio a second round picks in the process. So is there's something similar out there? For the Jets in April. We'll see. I think it's very possible and we shall see. But that's all we have here on the official Jets podcast. That was again Jim Naggi. Follow him on Twitter at Jim Naggy, Underscore, s B and Senior Bowl. Right around the corner. Maybe we'll speak to you from mobile